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CPU
12-21-2009, 02:02 PM
I'm surprised there's not already a thread for this movie (or is there?).

I went to see it over the weekend and thought it was great! The 3D tech is awesome (IMO), it's certainly come a LONG way from the last 3D movie I watched.

The plot wasn't particularly innovative, but Cameron can certainly tell a good story. I thought the ending was a little hard to swallow

Earth won't just send more ships and soldiers back to Pandora to get all that unobtanium? Really? I just don't buy it, we'd load up and go back and torch all the nice blue-people and take all their stuff. The Navi should have gotten justice by trying the boss and worked out some kind of deal with Earth for the unobtanium. Maybe we'd let them build casinos on Earth or something ;)

but it is what it is. I think the corporation that was mining the unobtanium should start selling second-lives as Navi instead of the mineral. Imagine the profit as old people from Earth give their life savings to have their minds transferred into nice young Navi bodies! :P

DoctorDodge
12-21-2009, 02:19 PM
I saw it on friday, and thought it was brilliant! Exceeded expectations, and considering I had high hopes due to it being a James Cameron film, that's saying something!

OK, it was very, very long, but also incredibly beautiful. Cameron has proved with this film that 3D isn't just a gimmick to get people back in the cinema: it's also a fantastic new way to tell a story whilst reducing people's vocabulary to the level of Keanu Reeve's and just have them say "whoa!" when watching it. In this day and age, when so many films are so completely filled with computer effects that the audience has becomed somewhat used to it, that's incredibly hard to do!

As CPU pointed out, it's not the most original plot in the world, but Cameron still knows how to tell a story and really suck the audience into the film so much that you just don't care about it. It really is fantastic to know that, unlike Michael Bay films, there are truly great movies out there that have both amazing effects AND a good enough story to justify it!

Mark
12-21-2009, 03:39 PM
I'm going tomorrow, My Mum has been and said it's really good, but i've read reviews that say the CGI and 3D stuff really covers up an average story.

ur2ndbiggestfan
12-21-2009, 05:50 PM
I believe I sat through the entire two hours and forty minutes without moving (except when the jerk behind me kicked the seat hard enough about eight times to rock my head), because I was totally entranced by this instant classic. The 3D was outstanding, the visuals stunning, and the plotline was good enough for me, even though it was derivative of many science fiction stories I have read in the past, mostly boring ones about humans coping with extra-terrestrial life forms. Reading these is one thing, seeing them so brilliantly portrayed on screen is quite another. Two thumbs, eight fingers, and ten toes UP!

DoctorDodge
12-22-2009, 09:38 AM
I believe I sat through the entire two hours and forty minutes without moving (except when the jerk behind me kicked the seat hard enough about eight times to rock my head), because I was totally entranced by this instant classic. The 3D was outstanding, the visuals stunning, and the plotline was good enough for me, even though it was derivative of many science fiction stories I have read in the past, mostly boring ones about humans coping with extra-terrestrial life forms. Reading these is one thing, seeing them so brilliantly portrayed on screen is quite another. Two thumbs, eight fingers, and ten toes UP!

I said I was sorry!

Lol, but seriously, I definitely agree about Avatar being so completely fantastic to look at! Expensive to see by cinema standards, but I'm still incredibly tempted to see it again!

idk, my bff jill?
12-22-2009, 01:58 PM
I tried to watch it both on Saturday and Sunday, but the showings were all sold out. :[
I'm going to try again today or tomorrow.

To be quite honest, the plot doesn't interest me at all, but I've heard such great things that I'm super excited all the same.

ArtherEld
12-23-2009, 01:00 PM
I'm surprised there's not already a thread for this movie (or is there?).

I went to see it over the weekend and thought it was great! The 3D tech is awesome (IMO), it's certainly come a LONG way from the last 3D movie I watched.

The plot wasn't particularly innovative, but Cameron can certainly tell a good story. I thought the ending was a little hard to swallow

Earth won't just send more ships and soldiers back to Pandora to get all that unobtanium? Really? I just don't buy it, we'd load up and go back and torch all the nice blue-people and take all their stuff. The Navi should have gotten justice by trying the boss and worked out some kind of deal with Earth for the unobtanium. Maybe we'd let them build casinos on Earth or something ;)



I could understand that criticism if it becomes apparent that there will be no sequel. And maybe there won't be, at least under Cameron's direction. He hasn't given in to the "sequelmania" other than Judgement Day. But there are rumors to such, and no doubt a sequel will end up dealing with the very thing you're talking about. But if there is no sequel, then yeah, I'd like to know why in the future Earth has decided to take "a few good men" literally. Other than that, yes, this movie was classic Cameron.

I hear people talking smack about the dialogue and acting, and then say they've been a long time Cameron fan. And I get confused at such criticisms when I look back at all his movies. In summary, taking this movie, and Aliens, and the Abyss, Terminator, all that, into account, Cameron movies aren't oscar worthy in terms of storyline, acting and dialogue. They're not bad, but they're also not groundbreaking. The dialogue and acting resembles blue colar, down to earth characters and I love that. A lot of cheesy one liners, sure, but that's classic action, and that's classic Cameron. This movie was no exception. All the military scenes and the science team scenes, that was every Cameron movie you've ever seen in a nutshell. Sigourney Weaver's presence capitalized on that. It's when we get to the Navi that Cameron sort of stepped out of his bubble for better or worse.

I think it was for the better. I liked those sequences the best in this film. And that acting was actually pretty good. The animators were in on the acting as well, and they did a superb job. They took what Jackson did with Gollum to the next level. Which is what you're hoping for. Gollum was great animated acting but any future movies that attempt it, you hope they do a better job, and Avatar did. Favorite scene for this: watching Neytiri (Zoe Saldana) react to her mother wanting her to teach Jake Sully (Sam Worthington).

My criticisms: 1.) Jake Sully ends up being unremorsefully anti-human. He's a marine, he's gotta be going through some sort of emotional battle due to killing his own. I wonder about how an actual marine would critique this part of the film. 2.) as good as the animation was there were some awkward animations - like a couple of jumping stuff - where their bodies contort in unrealistic ways. That's a nitpick I know, but I usually don't nitpick. But there were a coupld scenes that popped out at me.

Loved the film. Didn't even need to be 3D, that was just icing on the cake. Hope they have an uncut version coming.

kaleidyscope
12-23-2009, 06:10 PM
I don't need to go to the cinema ever again. What a transfixing experience. If anyone is considering whether or not to see it in 3d don't, just see it in 3D :D

lophophoras
12-24-2009, 07:52 AM
I saw the previews in 3D when I went to see Jim Carry - The Christmas Story.

They were great!

I felt a tad drunk. All of that action was hard to follow with the 3D effects.

I'm planning on going this weekend to see the movie though.

:thumbsup:

turtlex
12-24-2009, 08:13 AM
Cameron movies aren't oscar worthy in terms of storyline, acting and dialogue.

Though not a Cameron fan really, I would have to disagree with this. Though his films aren't the pinnacle of acting arts, there are a lot of good performances around what are usually stilted scripts.

Sigourney Weaver, Bill Paxton and Michael Biehn in Aliens. All did very well.
Linda Hamilton in Terminator and T2.
And honestly, Ed Harris and Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio in The Abyss. Good performances.
Kate Winslet in Titanic. Though I hated the movie ( yeah, I'm the one ) and thought it was over-long and rather boring. She was actually very watchable and did what she could with what was basically a very poorly written character.

I'm gonna see Avatar sometime this coming week or so. So... I'll be back. :D

Merlin1958
12-24-2009, 01:55 PM
IMHO don't bother seeing this film in anything but the 3D/Imax. It is just incredible as Cameron takes you into the world of Pandora. Many scenes are shot such that you feel as if you were "in" the movie. The plot is kinda lame though (Sci-Fi Dances with Wolves) and I cannot imagine sitting through it in a regular theater. But the Imax-3D is like going to a Disney attraction!!!!

Well worth the $15 for the ticket!!!!!

cody44
12-24-2009, 09:19 PM
I agree with people who said the 3D was a very good way to cover up the poor screenwriting. I enjoyed the 3D and realize that it is a new step forward in movie technology, but I don't go to a movie to be only visually stunned. I felt like the movie dragged on in parts. Making the already three hour long movie feel like five. I still had a fun time watching it, and certain parts really did pop.

Lily-sai
12-26-2009, 02:48 PM
For me it felt like a mere hour. I was so awestruck - Pandora is very, very beautiful (and no, don't watch it in anything else but 3D!). I might not be a very good movie critic, but I wept. And smiled. And laughed. And felt anger.

I simply, purely loved Avatar.

ArtherEld
12-27-2009, 03:40 PM
For me it felt like a mere hour. I was so awestruck - Pandora is very, very beautiful (and no, don't watch it in anything else but 3D!). I might not be a very good movie critic, but I wept. And smiled. And laughed. And felt anger.

I simply, purely loved Avatar.

I wept too. But it was that 3D getting to my eyes.

Honostly, 3D was icing on the cake. Enjoy it while it lasts. Hit the theaters as much times as possible, cuz I don't think it's gonna be 3D on DVD. In any case, really it doesn't need to be. I'll get the movie and be happy with it as a non3D movie.

ICry4Oy
12-28-2009, 10:31 AM
That's good to hear because 3D movies always make my head ache and my eyes bleed.

cozener
12-28-2009, 10:50 AM
[quote]Ed Harris and Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio in The Abyss. Good performances. To date, one of my favorite sci fi flicks.



Kate Winslet in Titanic. Though I hated the movie ( yeah, I'm the one ) A lot of people didn't like that movie. I thought it sucked balls. Cliched romantic plot, lackluster script, exceedingly stupid ending. The only thing that kept me in my seat was that I wanted to see the ship sink. (which was an awesome scene but kinda like putting a cherry on top of a pile of poop instead of a banana split, IMHO)

Even though I don't much like Cameron...I think he's an arrogant asshole...I will likely go see Avatar.

ManOfWesternesse
12-31-2009, 01:55 AM
Saw it a few days ago, with my 12-yr-old. We were both awestruck.

Agree with ArthurEld above on the sequel setup - it certainly looks like it's set up for one.

Wonderful experience - I think I'll go see it again at the weekend.

Letti
12-31-2009, 02:02 AM
I saw it with Susan (yes, with her) last week and we are going to see it again this weekend. Just like you Brian. I hardly ever see a movie twice in the cinema but it was good and I couldn't say 'no' to my dear friend.

ManOfWesternesse
12-31-2009, 02:16 AM
I saw it with Susan...:excited:
That must have been great Letti! :jealous!:
yes, I definitely want to see it again on the 3D Big-Screen before it goes away. We can always get the DVD, but it won't ever be quite as good on 2D Small-Screen!

Letti
12-31-2009, 02:25 AM
I saw it with Susan...:excited:
That must have been great Letti! :jealous!:
yes, I definitely want to see it again on the 3D Big-Screen before it goes away. We can always get the DVD, but it won't ever be quite as good on 2D Small-Screen!

It was great indeed. :)
I see where you are coming from. I am really happy because this weekend we can watch it in English. Last time we saw it in Hungarian (dubbed) and it's not the same.. not to mention the fact that if you watch something in English you can share the experience with fewer AND more silent people.

ManOfWesternesse
12-31-2009, 02:42 AM
....share the experience with fewer AND more silent people.
For my own part, i HOPE not to share it next time with the lady who brought what looked like her 3-month-old baby along and was sitting 2 seats away from me! I'm sure the child had little appreciation for the film, and even though i was totally engrossed in the film, i had little appreciation for the child on the couple of occasions it started to cry. It was not a major problem, but hopefully won't be repeated! :lol:

Letti
12-31-2009, 03:15 AM
....share the experience with fewer AND more silent people.
For my own part, i HOPE not to share it next time with the lady who brought what looked like her 3-month-old baby along and was sitting 2 seats away from me! I'm sure the child had little appreciation for the film, and even though i was totally engrossed in the film, i had little appreciation for the child on the couple of occasions it started to cry. It was not a major problem, but hopefully won't be repeated! :lol:

OMG! 3-month-old baby?!?! That's a crime. Poor baby.. poor audience. Sometimes I don't understand people.

ur2ndbiggestfan
12-31-2009, 06:43 AM
I have no trouble with most of Cameron's films. The only one that didn't sit well with me was TRUE LIES, which I found totally unbelievable in any sense. But with that one exception, his movies are well thought out and logically consistent in the universes (or settings) he creates for them. I never find myself thinking "THAT would never happen!" or "Where the heck did THAT come from!" in his movies. He doesn't do action for action's sake or play with his digital effects just becasue he has them. I also sat spellbound through TITANIC, ALIENS, THE ABYSS and AVATAR, and never find the writing, plots or dialog in his films lame or unrealistic or cliched.
As for rudeness in theaters, there is no excuse for that. Why people have to open their cell phones up every 10 minutes I have no idea. I would never take a cell phone into a movie with me. And if I had a reason to do so, I wouldn't go! I go to the movies to see them, not to take calls and messages.

Brice
01-01-2010, 07:36 AM
Off topic, but Letti hug Susan for me. :wub:

Erin
01-06-2010, 07:59 AM
I saw it 2 days ago and was blown away by the visuals. I agree that the story wasn't super original, but I really enjoyed myself during it. And I agree with Letti and Brian that i will be seeing it again in theatres, something I rarely do.

sarah
01-14-2010, 05:59 PM
saw this in 3D a couple of weeks ago. LOVED it. so English vs Indians. so Greeks vs the Romans. It just shows that history alway repeats itself... unfortunately. It is such a beautiful movie. You don't know where the cgi begins and where it ends. highly recommended even if you can predict the entire move.

ArtherEld
01-19-2010, 01:22 AM
In case you thought the movie ended rather abruptly, here's what the Navi did when the humans left:
YouTube- Daft Punk - One More Time

Kate
01-28-2010, 10:18 AM
I really loved it. I was completely in awe the entire movie because of the cgi. This is definitely one of the best movies I've seen in a while :)

mae
10-27-2010, 08:53 AM
http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/10/27/james-cameron-announces-avatar-sequels/


It’s official: James Cameron is going back to Pandora not just for his next film, but also for his next two. Mr. Cameron, the filmmaker behind the 3-D blockbuster “Avatar,” joined 20th Century Fox in announcing that he would make “Avatar 2” and “Avatar 3” as his next two movies, with the first of the sequels scheduled for release in December 2014, and the second for December of the following year. That assures a lot of fantasy-filled Decembers, as Peter Jackson has already scheduled a pair of “Hobbit” films for Warner Brothers and Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer in that month in the years 2012 and 2013. “Avatar” was released on Dec. 18 of last year and became the highest-grossing film in history, with almost $2.8 billion in worldwide ticket sales. Mr. Cameron and the top Fox film executives, Jim Gianopulos and Tom Rothman, jointly said they aimed to begin production next year on the first sequel. The film is not yet officially titled, they said.

http://www.firstshowing.net/2010/10/27/cameron-officially-announces-avatar-2-3-are-next-for-him/


More very big news today to report on. An official press release from Fox and Lightstorm (via Deadline) has announced/confirmed that James Cameron has agreed to make Avatar 2 and 3 as his next films. He was apparently considering directing that Cleopatra movie with Angelina Jolie at Sony, but Deadline says "Fox made a 'huge' donation to his environmental green fund, and in return he committed to making the Avatar sequel… That also caused him to withdraw from Sony Pictures' Cleopatra." Fox is targeting December 2014 and 2015 release dates for the two back-to-back sequels, but hasn't set anything in stone. Ready to go back?

Here's James Cameron's rather beefy official statement that touches on improving the story in these sequels:


"It is a rare and remarkable opportunity when a filmmaker gets to build a fantasy world, and watch it grow, with the resources and partnership of a global media company. AVATAR was conceived as an epic work of fantasy – a world that audiences could visit, across all media platforms, and this moment marks the launch of the next phase of that world. With two new films on the drawing boards, my company and I are embarking on an epic journey with our partners at Twentieth Century Fox. Our goal is to meet and exceed the global audience's expectations for the richness of AVATAR's visual world and the power of the storytelling. In the second and third films, which will be self contained stories that also fulfill a greater story arc, we will not back off the throttle of AVATAR’s visual and emotional horsepower, and will continue to explore its themes and characters, which touched the hearts of audiences in all cultures around the world. I'm looking forward to returning to Pandora, a world where our imaginations can run wild."

Cameron, who had always viewed Avatar as the creation of a new world and mythology, will begin work on the scripts early next year with an eye towards commencing production later in 2011. Cameron will decide if he will shoot the films back-to-back after he completes the script, despite Fox setting 2014 and 2015 release dates (which would mean he has to shoot them back-to-back if they keep those dates). "With the first movie, Jim only scratched the surface of the stories he wants to tell and the creatures and world he wants to create. Now we will continue his vision," producer Jon Landau said. We can also certainly assume that most of the original cast, including Sam Worthington as Jake Sully and Zoe Saldana as Neytiri, will be returning.

In updates earlier this year, Cameron revealed that Avatar 2 will be going into the oceans of Pandora, and eventually expanding to other moons in the solar system. "Part of my focus in the second film is in creating a different environment – a different setting within Pandora. And I'm going to be focusing on the ocean on Pandora, which will be equally rich and diverse and crazy and imaginative, but it just won't be a rain forest," he said. "We expand out across [the Alpha Centauri AB] system and incorporate more into the story – not necessarily in the second film, but more toward a third film." I watched Avatar again at its 3D re-release in the summer and you know what, I'm excited for a sequel, I have faith in James Cameron, I say bring it on!

Ricky
10-27-2010, 11:09 AM
I disliked the first one and honestly cannot believe it's the highest-grossing movie of all time, nor can I see the purpose of making 2 more, other than Cameron hoping to suck the cash cow for all it's worth.

candy
10-27-2010, 11:13 AM
Oh no!! its the end of the world.

Ricky..... i disagree, there i have said it! it doesn't happen very often><

I enjoyed the first one tremendously, however, saying that i think it was the orginality with the 3D depth that i really liked and it may be on a re-watch its not as good. I am unsure about a second and third installment as i think they would just rehash the same story?:orely: i may be wrong

I would go and see them though just out of curiosty

Ricky
10-27-2010, 11:19 AM
That's okay, candy. We'll always have Saw. :couple: :lol:

I think you're on to something there as well. Avatar was meant to be an "experience." Because I didn't see it in the theater OR in 3D, I think that took alot away from it. If that's the case, I feel like Cameron spent too much time on FX and 3D, making it the focal point of the film instead of the film itself.

haunted.lunchbox
10-27-2010, 11:41 AM
I think I'm the only person that hasn't seen avatar. In truth, originally I was put off because the first time I heard there was an Avatar movie coming out I thought it was going to be The Last Airbender... so I was disappointed. When The Last Airbender did come out I was also disappointed, there were some great actors in it, like the guy that played Zukko, and some great scenes, but the movie wasn't long enough to hold the story and Katara and sokka sucked.

fernandito
10-27-2010, 11:50 AM
I liked the first film, seeing it in 3D is one of the best theater experiences I've ever had. Not sure if I'll catch the next two in theaters, but I'll definitely watch them at one point or another.

Letti
10-27-2010, 12:12 PM
I disliked the first one and honestly cannot believe it's the highest-grossing movie of all time, nor can I see the purpose of making 2 more, other than Cameron hoping to suck the cash cow for all it's worth.

I thought I was the only person alive who felt this way.
Well, I must admit I cannot say I disliked the movie because I did like there were some really touching parts in it BUT I definitely don't get the fuss about it. It's not even close to become an important film to me.
It was nice it was good but not a legend at all. (But I respect other people's feelings and opinions I just don't get the hype.)

John Blaze
10-27-2010, 12:24 PM
I liked the first film, seeing it in 3D is one of the best theater experiences I've ever had. Not sure if I'll catch the next two in theaters, but I'll definitely watch them at one point or another.
This.

Mattrick
10-27-2010, 07:39 PM
Maybe one day I'll watch Avatar. Or never watch it and go in the guiness book for the only living person to have not seen it.

RainInSpain
10-28-2010, 01:52 AM
I liked the first film, seeing it in 3D is one of the best theater experiences I've ever had. Not sure if I'll catch the next two in theaters, but I'll definitely watch them at one point or another.
This.

Thirded. I definitely will go to see at least the 2nd one, certainly in IMAX 3D.

frik
10-28-2010, 05:31 AM
I had a great time with Avatar. Saw it four times in the theatre and can't wait for the special -blu-ray - edition.
I don't know if I'd call it an important film, but so what. To me, it was highly entertaining - a great movie-watching experience. Like the Lord of the Rings films were.
Can't wait for more.

sk

Walkingman79
10-29-2010, 06:19 PM
I had a great time with Avatar. Saw it four times in the theatre and can't wait for the special -blu-ray - edition.
I don't know if I'd call it an important film, but so what. To me, it was highly entertaining - a great movie-watching experience. Like the Lord of the Rings films were.
Can't wait for more.

sk

I agree with you except I would call it an important film.I thought Avatar was amazing and I was bummed when they didn't re-release it in theatres in my area.This is a movie that I am actually excited about sequals.Hell yeah I want to go back to Pandora.

mae
05-19-2016, 05:53 AM
So is everyone excited like I am for four new Avatar movies? There is also a new Cirque du Soleil show I'm eager to check out.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkIRAdMvQMw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E63VxxjkRYY

Ben Staad
05-19-2016, 06:00 AM
I think I may be the only person in the world who wasn't grabbed by this movie. I've tried to watch it on multiple occasions with the family and have never made it through the whole thing. Hope the sequels are great successes.

ELazansky
05-19-2016, 06:25 AM
So is everyone excited like I am for four new Avatar movies? There is also a new Cirque du Soleil show I'm eager to check out.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkIRAdMvQMw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E63VxxjkRYY

I got to see Toruk in Allentown last fall. It was amazing. Definitely worth seeing.

mae
02-26-2017, 07:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVqlvkdclVw

RUBE
02-27-2017, 11:44 AM
Avatar was pretty good but I liked it more when it was three separate movies... Dances with Wolves, Aliens, and Ferngully.

fernandito
02-27-2017, 11:47 AM
lol

mae
04-22-2017, 09:31 AM
http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/840769-all-four-avatar-sequel-release-dates-confirmed

Since the first Avatar arrived in 2009, James Cameron has been hard at work on a follow-up which has grown from one sequel to two to three and now four movies, whose release dates have been in flux and delayed with frequency. Now, 20th Century Fox and Lightstorm Entertainment have announced the release dates for all four of the films via the official Avatar Facebook page along with a photo of James Cameron and his cast and crew!

“Great to be working with the best team in the business! Avatar takes flight as we begin concurrent production on four sequels. The journey continues December 18, 2020, December 17, 2021, December 20, 2024 and December 19, 2025!”

Cameron previously spoke about the undertaking of making all four sequels at the same time in an interview with The Star when it was revealed Avatar 2 wouldn’t arrive in 2018, saying:

“What people have to understand is that this is a cadence of releases. So we’re not making Avatar 2. We’re making Avatar 2, 3, 4 and 5. It’s an epic undertaking. It’s not unlike building the Three Gorges dam. (Laughs) So I know where I’m going to be for the next eight years of my life. It’s not an unreasonable time frame if you think about it. It took us four-and-a-half years to make one movie and now we’re making four. We’re full tilt boogie right now. This is my day job and pretty soon we’ll be 24-7. We’re pretty well designed on all our creatures and sets. It’s pretty exciting stuff. I wish I could share with the world. But we have to preserve a certain amount of showmanship and we’re going to draw that curtain when the time is right.”

Confirmed to feature the return of cast members Sam Worthington, Zoe Saldana, Stephen Lang and Sigourney Weaver, the Avatar sequels will be produced by Cameron and Jon Landau through their Lightstorm Entertainment. The sequels are written by Cameron along with Rick Jaffa and Amanda Silver, Josh Friedman, and Shane Salerno, which Cameron will direct.

mae
10-02-2017, 04:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVhlJNJopOQ

stroppygoblin
10-03-2017, 04:27 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVhlJNJopOQ

That was just awesome.

mae
05-07-2019, 09:43 AM
https://variety.com/2019/film/news/disney-avatar-star-wars-marvel-1203207661/

Moviegoers will have to wait a little longer to return to Pandora.

James Cameron’s long-awaited and oft-delayed follow-up to “Avatar” has been pushed back another year. “Avatar 2” will hit theaters on Dec. 17, 2021 instead of Dec. 18, 2020 as originally planned. Its move means that “Avatar 3” will open on Dec. 22, 2023 as opposed to Dec. 17, 2021 while “Avatar 4” will bow on Dec. 19, 2025 instead of Dec. 20, 2024 and “Avatar 5” will launch Dec. 17, 2027. The news comes as part of a larger shift in release dates unveiled by Walt Disney Studios. The company is changing the debuts of various films it inherited after buying the bulk of 21st Century Fox’s film and television assets in a $71.3 billion mega-merger.

fernandito
05-08-2019, 02:22 PM
Does anyone really care about Avatar sequels tho? Haven't met a single person that said "man, I wish they'd hurry up with Avatar 2 already!"

mae
05-08-2019, 02:25 PM
I'm really looking forward to them personally.

Ricky
05-08-2019, 03:26 PM
Does anyone really care about Avatar sequels tho? Haven't met a single person that said "man, I wish they'd hurry up with Avatar 2 already!"

Was just going to say the same thing.

ratchet41
05-11-2019, 10:19 PM
i haven't even seen all of the 1st one to be honest and even i can say it's highly overrated. Titanic is a good film i think but way overrated i think too. now give me T2, The Abyss which is my favorite of his or Aliens those are my top 3 though i do also love the 1st Terminator film and of course True Lies. but 5 sequels? i think the ONLY one who wants those is James Cameron! i want that True Lies Sequel that was going to be made years ago with Arnold but cancelled only cause he was elected Governor.

fernandito
05-12-2019, 07:08 AM
Does anyone really care about Avatar sequels tho? Haven't met a single person that said "man, I wish they'd hurry up with Avatar 2 already!"

Was just going to say the same thing.
I think that if the sequels were cancelled tomorrow the world would breath a collective "meh".

frik
05-12-2019, 07:10 AM
i think the ONLY one who wants those is James Cameron!

I want!!

sk

Merlin1958
05-12-2019, 12:07 PM
Does anyone really care about Avatar sequels tho? Haven't met a single person that said "man, I wish they'd hurry up with Avatar 2 already!"

Yeah, I have to agree with you in that regard. I don't feel a knawing need to further the, Avatar story. It did what it did, which is set the standard for 3D technology in film from that point forward. You can't take that away from it, but as far as the story goes, I'm okay putting a bow on it. lol

mae
11-04-2019, 04:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peujAH2szpI

mae
05-14-2020, 05:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKWpH_REXOs

divemaster
05-14-2020, 07:39 PM
Does she get naked in this one? If not, what's the point?

Still Servant
05-17-2020, 02:15 PM
Does anyone really care about Avatar sequels tho? Haven't met a single person that said "man, I wish they'd hurry up with Avatar 2 already!"

It's such an astute observation. I really enjoyed the first Avatar film. It was one of the better 3D experiences I ever had. That said, I have never really felt compelled to revisit it. I also don't ever hear people clamoring for it. My guess is that the film will get very little buzz among moviegoers, but will still somehow make huge box office.

mae
03-15-2021, 05:18 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuM5o4ohMQ0

fernandito
03-15-2021, 08:30 AM
at least until Endgame is re-released in theaters later this year :lol:

webstar1000
03-15-2021, 09:00 AM
at least until Endgame is re-released in theaters later this year :lol:

yep... and that WILL happen.

Mattrick
03-15-2021, 01:07 PM
They're both Disney properties now...

mae
08-21-2021, 04:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRg9hYStHm0

mae
05-09-2022, 07:04 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8Gx8wiNbs8

mae
08-23-2022, 02:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jm2sNLIPPvA

mae
09-21-2022, 08:55 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sUddYwgFi8

mae
11-02-2022, 06:35 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9MyW72ELq0

Still Servant
11-06-2022, 09:07 AM
I can't wait to see the box office for Avatar. I feel like it's a film nobody is really hyped for.

mae
11-06-2022, 11:05 AM
Really? I cannot wait. Taking my dad and he’s not been to the movies in over a decade probably.

webstar1000
11-07-2022, 06:31 AM
I can't wait to see the box office for Avatar. I feel like it's a film nobody is really hyped for.

NO ONE in my movie circle care OR are excited. The first one did so well cause of the 3D tech used and the hype. I predict a 100K or less opening

Iwritecode
11-07-2022, 09:42 AM
I think I watched the first one once. Barely remember it. Never understood the huge hype for it.

mae
11-17-2022, 08:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6-gmubgjzQ

fernandito
11-18-2022, 11:27 AM
I think I watched the first one once. Barely remember it. Never understood the huge hype for it.

Watching the first one in 3D was an incredible experience. The story was derivative as hell but the visuals... damn.

I'll probably end up watching this one in theaters but it won't be weekend 1. I'll wait until 3rd or 4th weekend.

mae
11-21-2022, 08:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5F8MOz_IDw

fernandito
11-22-2022, 10:47 AM
‘Avatar 2’ Is So Expensive It Must Become the ‘Fourth or Fifth Highest-Grossing Film in History’ Just to Break Even (https://variety.com/2022/film/news/avatar-2-budget-expensive-2-billion-turn-profit-1235438907/)

webstar1000
11-22-2022, 11:09 AM
‘Avatar 2’ Is So Expensive It Must Become the ‘Fourth or Fifth Highest-Grossing Film in History’ Just to Break Even (https://variety.com/2022/film/news/avatar-2-budget-expensive-2-billion-turn-profit-1235438907/)

hilarious....

mae
11-30-2022, 04:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBtCotfEpks

mae
12-06-2022, 05:36 PM
Some great first reactions:

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/avatar-2-first-reactions-james-cameron-masterpiece-1235451389/
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/avatar-2-way-water-reactions-1235276522/

Got my tickets for the 18th in Dolby Cinema, no 3D for me. Sadly no IMAX 2D anywhere,

mae
12-07-2022, 09:41 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF-L-ixROGI

webstar1000
12-07-2022, 10:36 AM
Some great first reactions:

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/avatar-2-first-reactions-james-cameron-masterpiece-1235451389/
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/avatar-2-way-water-reactions-1235276522/

Got my tickets for the 18th in Dolby Cinema, no 3D for me. Sadly no IMAX 2D anywhere,

Not a 3D fan? I found the first one to be the most amazing 3D I ever seen...

frik
12-08-2022, 02:15 AM
Some great first reactions:

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/avatar-2-first-reactions-james-cameron-masterpiece-1235451389/
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/avatar-2-way-water-reactions-1235276522/

Got my tickets for the 18th in Dolby Cinema, no 3D for me. Sadly no IMAX 2D anywhere,

Got my tickets for the 17th - can't wait!
Will be an Imax-3D experience.
Not sure about the hfr, but as the recent re-release also was shown in this format, which truthfully I barely noticed (:confused:) it should be an amazing experience.

sk

mae
12-13-2022, 01:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxgCEID3wpI

webstar1000
12-15-2022, 05:52 PM
Avatar is a cool visually. And THATS it. I really wanted more… interesting to hear others thoughts:)

mae
12-16-2022, 07:05 AM
Avatar is a cool visually. And THATS it. I really wanted more… interesting to hear others thoughts:)

I'm seeing it Sunday! Can't wait. Just rewatched the extended edition of the original and it more than holds up, still an emotional and beautiful film!

webstar1000
12-16-2022, 07:39 AM
Avatar is a cool visually. And THATS it. I really wanted more… interesting to hear others thoughts:)

I'm seeing it Sunday! Can't wait. Just rewatched the extended edition of the original and it more than holds up, still an emotional and beautiful film!

The first is FAR better. I really did not expect James to let us down in the sequel territory.. BUT there will not be anymore Avatars as I suspect this won't turn a profit. ITs ok... but thats it.. just ok.

frik
12-16-2022, 10:00 AM
Avatar is a cool visually. And THATS it. I really wanted more… interesting to hear others thoughts:)

I'm seeing it Sunday! Can't wait. Just rewatched the extended edition of the original and it more than holds up, still an emotional and beautiful film!

BUT there will not be anymore Avatars as I suspect this won't turn a profit.

There will be. And it will. Don't forget, the budget of The Way of Water was around $350/500 mil. Will easily make a profit.
Besides, Avtar 3 has practically been filmed already.

sk

fernandito
12-16-2022, 10:07 AM
It will make a profit, the question is how much profit. Remember it essentially needs to land in the top 5 grossing films of all time for it to turn a significant profit.

Cameron has stated that if Avatar 2 doesn't turn out to be the smashing success he hopes for, he'll explore 'other possibilities' for Avatars 3 and up. Possibly a TV show or such...

webstar1000
12-16-2022, 10:12 AM
Avatar is a cool visually. And THATS it. I really wanted more… interesting to hear others thoughts:)

I'm seeing it Sunday! Can't wait. Just rewatched the extended edition of the original and it more than holds up, still an emotional and beautiful film!

BUT there will not be anymore Avatars as I suspect this won't turn a profit.

There will be. And it will. Don't forget, the budget of The Way of Water was around $350/500 mil. Will easily make a profit.
Besides, Avtar 3 has practically been filmed already.

sk

It was stated that Way of Water needs to hit 2 billion to make money.

webstar1000
12-16-2022, 10:12 AM
Here is the article where he says what it needs to do to make $


https://variety.com/2022/film/news/avatar-2-budget-expensive-2-billion-turn-profit-1235438907/

mae
12-16-2022, 11:08 AM
Here is the article where he says what it needs to do to make $


https://variety.com/2022/film/news/avatar-2-budget-expensive-2-billion-turn-profit-1235438907/

That's actually not true, that's a headline made from Cameron speaking out of his butt. He's a filmmaker, not a finance person. It does not need to make $2 billion to make a profit.

Hunchback Jack
12-16-2022, 11:59 AM
Exactly.

"My film needs to make $2 billion to turn a profit, or you won't see Avatar 3"

Translation: "I need my film to break all box office records because my ego requires it"

This is James Cameron, after all. He put Avatar back into theaters just to regain the top box-office spot from Endgame.

HBJ

mae
01-22-2023, 08:48 AM
Does anyone really care about Avatar sequels tho? Haven't met a single person that said "man, I wish they'd hurry up with Avatar 2 already!"

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/avatar-2-billion-global-box-office-1235498281/

After just six weeks of release, James Cameron’s blockbuster sequel “Avatar: The Way of Water” has surpassed $2 billion in global ticket sales. It’s the sixth film in history — and first in pandemic times — to cross the coveted milestone, joining an exclusive club that includes Avatar,” “Avengers: Endgame,” “Titanic,” “Star Wars: The Force Awakens,” and “Avengers: Infinity War.”

Now, Cameron is responsible for three of the six-highest grossing movies of all time. He’s also the only director with three films to cross $2 billion.

fernandito
01-24-2023, 01:45 PM
Shoulda known better than to bet against GOAT Cameron!

He'll probably still be peeved that it didn't beat Avengers Endgame though. Here's to the next 10 years of Avatar 2 re-releases until it catches up :lol:

Still Servant
01-24-2023, 06:42 PM
Shoulda known better than to bet against GOAT Cameron!

He'll probably still be peeved that it didn't beat Avengers Endgame though. Here's to the next 10 years of Avatar 2 re-releases until it catches up :lol:

Don't feel bad, I made a similar comment. I forgot how easy mainstream moviegoers (and apparently the Academy) are to please. Add in the fact that films like Avatar are the only kinds of movies people go see anymore and, well, this is what you get.

Current Moviegoer: I'm familiar with this property. Take my money.

Mattrick
01-25-2023, 06:03 PM
It's impressive though. It took Marvel 20 movies and a decade of work to get two films at this level. Star Wars took 6 films and 40 years to hit this level. Both have long established, rabid fanbases who spend tons of money on these established IPs in all kinds of forms.

Avatar isn't based off an established IP. It doesn't have a built in fanbase. It was an original property. It didn't even have a huge star attached to it like Marvel's literal parade of stars in Avengers Infinity War and Endgame. And it was that successful. The sequel is almost as successful with only 1 film of original IP to go off and still no real stars attached to the project..wait, Cliff Curtis is a household name, right?

It's pretty goddamn impressive.

Still Servant
01-26-2023, 04:57 PM
It's impressive though. It took Marvel 20 movies and a decade of work to get two films at this level. Star Wars took 6 films and 40 years to hit this level. Both have long established, rabid fanbases who spend tons of money on these established IPs in all kinds of forms.

Avatar isn't based off an established IP. It doesn't have a built in fanbase. It was an original property. It didn't even have a huge star attached to it like Marvel's literal parade of stars in Avengers Infinity War and Endgame. And it was that successful. The sequel is almost as successful with only 1 film of original IP to go off and still no real stars attached to the project..wait, Cliff Curtis is a household name, right?

It's pretty goddamn impressive.

All great points. I don't deny the fact that it's impressive.

I guess my question is, what is it about the films that have resonated with people? Is it just the world-building?