Billy

[John_and_Yoko]

:rose:

An elegant lady in England did live,
But a dunce and elitist as ever you've spied;
All negative comments this old dame would give,
Behind no facade would this dowager hide.

Yet rotund in the belly her one weakness was,
And she growled like a silly beast in a wild wood;
I hope you can tell me her nickname because
There are no more clues--these are sufficiently good.

[Gaberax]

:rose:

An elegant lady in England did live,
But a dunce and elitist as ever you've spied;
All negative comments this old dame would give,
Behind no facade would this dowager hide.

Yet rotund in the belly her one weakness was,
And she growled like a silly beast in a wild wood;
I hope you can tell me her nickname because
There are no more clues--these are sufficiently good.

Old Buddha?

[John_and_Yoko]

:rose:

An elegant lady in England did live,
But a dunce and elitist as ever you've spied;
All negative comments this old dame would give,
Behind no facade would this dowager hide.

Yet rotund in the belly her one weakness was,
And she growled like a silly beast in a wild wood;
I hope you can tell me her nickname because
There are no more clues--these are sufficiently good.

Old Buddha?

No.

Think of England, and look at some of the words in the riddle....

[Maturins_Daughter]

First person I thought of was Lady Godiva, but I don't think she fits all the clues.

[John_and_Yoko]

First person I thought of was Lady Godiva, but I don't think she fits all the clues.

It was late when I did that riddle, and even then I wasn't sure if it was the best it could be.... :blush:

I guess I'll walk y'all through the riddle, even though if it were worth its salt I wouldn't have to.

First off, IS it a she?

[Lily-sai]

Is it a building of some kind?

[John_and_Yoko]

Is it a building of some kind?

:wtf:

No....

Look at the second stanza and see if you see some...curious words....

[Lily-sai]

:lol: I was trying to think outside of the box.

Steps slowly backwards and runs off.

[John_and_Yoko]

:lol: I was trying to think outside of the box.

Steps slowly backwards and runs off.

Don't run off--thinking outside of the box is GOOD--you just went the wrong way, that's all, a little TOO far outside....

[John_and_Yoko]

Do y'all just want me to give the answer and have done with this? I'm beginning to suspect that it isn't executed well and that you may not get it from the clues I've given....

[Jon]

Courtney Love?

[Gaberax]

Do y'all just want me to give the answer and have done with this? I'm beginning to suspect that it isn't executed well and that you may not get it from the clues I've given....

No, no, no, no. Good riddles need to percolate. Some of us need to cogitate on it a bit...don't give it away. Sometimes, the answer comes days later...in a meeting or while driving or riding the bus...give it some time. ;) :)

[Gaberax]

Second stanza makes me think of Parliament...the House of Commons for the dunces and the House of Lords for the elitists...

Lament might refer to the "growled like a silly beast." AS in PAR lament. Now what the hell is a Par? :P ***I was also thinking of camel as in bicameral Parliament...but I think that's way too far outside of the box ***

[John_and_Yoko]

Okay, I won't give it away, then. :) Thank you for having greater confidence in my riddles than I do.

And yeah, that's not it.

Here's a hint: this is one case where it's fitting and proper that the riddle rhymes....

:evil:

[Jon]

par is a golf term.

[John_and_Yoko]

par is a golf term.

It has nothing to do with par, or parliament, or lament, or anything like it. :P

Think: it's referring to ENGLAND, and it RHYMES....

[Gaberax]

Whew! I am all over the place with this one. :pullhair:

I am wondering if the riddle is about a thing (a train, a ship, a nuclear submarine or power plant (negative comments=electrons)

Or a female poet/writer

Or a fat, gay, English literary critic.

I was thinking something like Dame Edna but ruled that out. I have considered Elizabeth Barret Browning but ruled that out.

Frustrated, but still wrestling with this...

[John_and_Yoko]

Whew! I am all over the place with this one. :pullhair:

I am wondering if the riddle is about a thing (a train, a ship, a nuclear submarine or power plant (negative comments=electrons)

Or a female poet/writer

Or a fat, gay, English literary critic.

I was thinking something like Dame Edna but ruled that out. I have considered Elizabeth Barret Browning but ruled that out.

Frustrated, but still wrestling with this...

Yeah, that's why I was worried no one would get it--the clues DO lead to the answer, but this is probably not as good as my past riddles....

Of your guesses, the closest thing to the right answer is your first guess about a "thing," but none of the "things" you've guessed are correct.

There is a poet and writer involved, but are you sure this person is female...?

[Gaberax]

Yeah, that's why I was worried no one would get it--the clues DO lead to the answer, but this is probably not as good as my past riddles....

Of your guesses, the closest thing to the right answer is your first guess about a "thing," but none of the "things" you've guessed are correct.

There is a poet and writer involved, but are you sure this person is female...?

Thanks, it may help. I'll work on it later this evening. The problem, dear Brutus, isn't with the riddle. It's me. ;)

[John_and_Yoko]

Yeah, that's why I was worried no one would get it--the clues DO lead to the answer, but this is probably not as good as my past riddles....

Of your guesses, the closest thing to the right answer is your first guess about a "thing," but none of the "things" you've guessed are correct.

There is a poet and writer involved, but are you sure this person is female...?

Thanks, it may help. I'll work on it later this evening. The problem, dear Brutus, isn't with the riddle. It's me. ;)

I HOPE it does. I fear an anti-climax when the answer is finally revealed.... :unsure:

[Gaberax]

Yeah, that's why I was worried no one would get it--the clues DO lead to the answer, but this is probably not as good as my past riddles....

Of your guesses, the closest thing to the right answer is your first guess about a "thing," but none of the "things" you've guessed are correct.

There is a poet and writer involved, but are you sure this person is female...?

Thanks, it may help. I'll work on it later this evening. The problem, dear Brutus, isn't with the riddle. It's me. ;)

I HOPE it does. I fear an anti-climax when the answer is finally revealed.... :unsure:

Not to worry. It is the work to the solution that is fun. I just hope I can get it....or if not me, one of the other fine riddlers on the board. ;)

[Gaberax]

Trying a different tack...

An elegant lady in England did live, DI As in Princess Diana
But a dunce and elitist as ever you've spied; SNOB
All negative comments this old dame would give, GIBE
Behind no facade would this dowager hide. MASK

Yet rotund in the belly her one weakness was, FAT
And she growled like a silly beast in a wild wood; ASS
I hope you can tell me her nickname because
There are no more clues--these are sufficiently good.

[John_and_Yoko]

Trying a different tack...

An elegant lady in England did live, DI As in Princess Diana
But a dunce and elitist as ever you've spied; SNOB
All negative comments this old dame would give, GIBE
Behind no facade would this dowager hide. MASK

Yet rotund in the belly her one weakness was, FAT
And she growled like a silly beast in a wild wood; ASS
I hope you can tell me her nickname because
There are no more clues--these are sufficiently good.

:wtf:

No, no, it's not a bunch of words like that....

I'll give you a hint: "rotund in the belly," "growled like a silly beast in a wild WOOD"....

Forget the other clues for a moment and concentrate on those....

[Gaberax]

No, no, it's not a bunch of words like that....

I'll give you a hint: "rotund in the belly," "growled like a silly beast in a wild WOOD"....

Forget the other clues for a moment and concentrate on those....

Potbelly stove?

[John_and_Yoko]

No, no, it's not a bunch of words like that....

I'll give you a hint: "rotund in the belly," "growled like a silly beast in a wild WOOD"....

Forget the other clues for a moment and concentrate on those....

Potbelly stove?

No, no. :P

All right, here's a big hint that I SHOULD have given in the first place....

The first stanza gives a NAME (if you can dope it out), the second describes the one who bears that name.

Also, I chose the specific word use in the above sentence for a reason....

[BROWNINGS CHILDE]

Mary Jane?

Not sure how this would fit any of the clues except that it is a name that I can "dope out"

[John_and_Yoko]

Mary Jane?

Not sure how this would fit any of the clues except that it is a name that I can "dope out"

-_-

I knew I should have changed that....

Forget "dope out"--that's a red herring....

[Gaberax]

Madame? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland_Flowers)

[John_and_Yoko]

No....

But you ARE on the right track as far as what "Madame" is and the fact that she's played by a he....

But try to think about this in terms of the other clues in the riddle....

[Gaberax]

Miss Piggy? Maybe Judy of Punch & Judy?

[John_and_Yoko]

Miss Piggy? Maybe Judy of Punch & Judy?

No, I was afraid you'd take that tack....

But while you're thinking of Miss Piggy....

Who owns Miss Piggy?

[ladykatherine]

No....

But you ARE on the right track as far as what "Madame" is and the fact that she's played by a he....

But try to think about this in terms of the other clues in the riddle....

Am I allowed to ask, would this have to do with a Shakespeare play then? The idea that the 'she' is played by a 'he' reminded me of the old rules for stage actors. I'm probably way off though...

[John_and_Yoko]

No....

But you ARE on the right track as far as what "Madame" is and the fact that she's played by a he....

But try to think about this in terms of the other clues in the riddle....

Am I allowed to ask, would this have to do with a Shakespeare play then? The idea that the 'she' is played by a 'he' reminded me of the old rules for stage actors. I'm probably way off though...

No....

I can see I'm going to have to be blunt.

There is no "she played by a he"--it's a he with a feminine name.

[Gaberax]

Frank Oz?

***knowing that that answer is not correct, Gaberax puts on his raincoat, water-repellant hat, goggles and galoshes and sits comfortably in his lawnchair, neath the shade of the deck umbrella, patiently awaiting the coming shitstorm. Hmmm, hmmm, hmmm, hmmm, hmm...***

[John_and_Yoko]

Frank Oz?

***knowing that that answer is not correct, Gaberax puts on his raincoat, water-repellant hat, goggles and galoshes and sits comfortably in his lawnchair, neath the shade of the deck umbrella, patiently awaiting the coming shitstorm. Hmmm, hmmm, hmmm, hmmm, hmm...***

-_-

By the time the answer is guessed I fear it's going to be anti-climactic....

I thought it was a good pun, but apparently I didn't give good clues.... :cry:

The second stanza is a description of the one who BEARS the name in the first....

[Jon]

Jean?

[Gaberax]

Are we talking about a English puppeteer with a girly name? From the riddle and the secondary clues, that's the angle I'm working....Ivor Wood? perhaps.

Otherwise, I am so far off the trail, I should go on vacation. :(

[Jon]

Go then. There are other worlds than these.:P

[John_and_Yoko]

Jean?

You're close.


Are we talking about a English puppeteer with a girly name? From the riddle and the secondary clues, that's the angle I'm working....Ivor Wood? perhaps.

Otherwise, I am so far off the trail, I should go on vacation. :(

You're not.

Nothing to do with puppets, but English and girly name are right.

[John_and_Yoko]

I am sorely tempted to simply reveal the answer to this one and do better next time, get my head out of the clouds. :P

[John_and_Yoko]

The answer is Winnie the Pooh.

Consider this riddle gonzo. :P

[Jon]

Well try another one J&Y. I appreciate it.

[John_and_Yoko]

Well try another one J&Y. I appreciate it.

Some other day I will.

I thought it was an interesting idea but I failed to execute it properly.

Oh well, I've had successes in the past, I can succeed again. :)

[Maturins_Daughter]

Yeah, from the clues given, I'm not sure that answer would've been gleaned.

But definitely do another!