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John_and_Yoko
11-24-2008, 09:28 PM
A friend gave me this one, but I've embellished it.

As I was walking late one night
I saw an antiquated right. [gee (guessed by Maturins_Daughter)]
It was to my far left, say true,
and then I (with respect to you)
did see a state of being pass [are (guessed by Maturins_Daughter)]
on my near left, and then just as
important as the number pi, [e (guessed by Gaberax)]
my third companion, walking nigh
to my close right. And thence did come,
on my far right--it struck me dumb--
the question which, if asked aloud, [why (guessed by Gaberax)]
would end all questions. Hand to shroud,
I pondered these four clues and thought
of something Leigh enjoys. I ought
to've seen it sooner--how I laugh,
for it's only the second half!
Before me now the answer was,
and if you tell, 'twill give me pause.

Answer: GREY (guessed by Gaberax and SigTauGimp)

Gaberax
11-25-2008, 06:18 AM
***Bravely wading into deep waters :) ***

Not sure if this is a clue by clue thing or a all clues point to one thing...which makes it that much more fun...but I will give you my first impressions...

Antiquated right...could be a right as "a right to know" or it could be something to do with angles....Hmmmm

State of being...."am", "are", "is"?

Important as Pi? "e"

Question that would end all questions? "Why?" or "Y"

KNOW-IS-E-Y

Noisy?

***Anticipates the "NO!"***

John_and_Yoko
11-25-2008, 11:14 AM
***Bravely wading into deep waters :) ***

Not sure if this is a clue by clue thing or a all clues point to one thing...which makes it that much more fun...but I will give you my first impressions...

Antiquated right...could be a right as "a right to know" or it could be something to do with angles....Hmmmm

State of being...."am", "are", "is"?

Important as Pi? "e" YES!!

Question that would end all questions? "Why?" or "Y" YES!!

KNOW-IS-E-Y

Noisy?

***Anticipates the "NO!"***

:lol:

Not "noisy," but you are on the right track, my friend, my friend. ;)

Important as Pi IS e.

Question to end all questions IS "Why?"

The other answers you gave are not quite correct, although the one you gave for the second clue is DEFINITELY on the right track....

And for the first one, you're clever to be thinking of different definitions of the word "right"--mayhap you should stick with that strategy....

Gaberax
11-26-2008, 12:13 PM
As I was walking late one night
I saw an antiquated right.
Right to bear arms?
Right of seizure?
Right of way?
Rite of spring?
Rite of passage?

It was to my far left, say true,
and then I (with respect to you)
Are I and U or U and I part of the answer?

did see a state of being pass
were, was, be, being, been?

on my near left, and then just as
important as the number pi, E
my third companion, walking nigh
to my close right. And thence did come,
on my far right--it struck me dumb--
the question which, if asked aloud, Why or Y?
would end all questions. Hand to shroud,
I pondered these four clues and thought
of something Leigh enjoys. I ought
Vivan Leigh?

to've seen it sooner--how I laugh,
for it's only the second half!
Before me now the answer was,
and if you tell, 'twill give me pause.

Just trying to sort it out. Maybe someone else will put it all together.
Damned good (and frustrating) riddle! ;)

John_and_Yoko
11-26-2008, 01:56 PM
As I was walking late one night
I saw an antiquated right.
Right to bear arms?
Right of seizure?
Right of way?
Rite of spring?
Rite of passage?

None of those are correct. Try thinking of a different right.... ;)

It was to my far left, say true,
and then I (with respect to you)
Are I and U or U and I part of the answer?

Neither is, no.

did see a state of being pass
were, was, be, being, been?

Nope--you were closer earlier....

on my near left, and then just as
important as the number pi, E
my third companion, walking nigh
to my close right. And thence did come,
on my far right--it struck me dumb--
the question which, if asked aloud, Why or Y?
would end all questions. Hand to shroud,
I pondered these four clues and thought
of something Leigh enjoys. I ought
Vivan Leigh?

Nope, wrong "Leigh." :lol:

to've seen it sooner--how I laugh,
for it's only the second half!
Before me now the answer was,
and if you tell, 'twill give me pause.

Just trying to sort it out. Maybe someone else will put it all together.
Damned good (and frustrating) riddle! ;)

You may not have got it yet, but at least you're thinking. I believe you'll get the right answer, it's just a matter of when.... :)

And thanks! :D

SigTauGimp
11-26-2008, 07:09 PM
As I was walking late one night
I saw an antiquated right.
It was to my far left, say true,
and then I (with respect to you) Us?We?
did see a state of being pass
on my near left, and then just as
important as the number pi, [e (guessed by Gaberax)]
my third companion, walking nigh
to my close right. And thence did come,
on my far right--it struck me dumb--
the question which, if asked aloud, [why (guessed by Gaberax)]
would end all questions. Hand to shroud,
I pondered these four clues and thought
of something Leigh enjoys. I ought
to've seen it sooner--how I laugh,
for it's only the second half!
Before me now the answer was,
and if you tell, 'twill give me pause.

John_and_Yoko
11-26-2008, 08:03 PM
As I was walking late one night
I saw an antiquated right.
It was to my far left, say true,
and then I (with respect to you) Us?We?
did see a state of being pass
on my near left, and then just as
important as the number pi, [e (guessed by Gaberax)]
my third companion, walking nigh
to my close right. And thence did come,
on my far right--it struck me dumb--
the question which, if asked aloud, [why (guessed by Gaberax)]
would end all questions. Hand to shroud,
I pondered these four clues and thought
of something Leigh enjoys. I ought
to've seen it sooner--how I laugh,
for it's only the second half!
Before me now the answer was,
and if you tell, 'twill give me pause.

Tell you what--ignore the "I" before "(with respect to you)" because it's no different from any other "I" in the clue.

The second clue, in other words, is "a state of being with respect to you."

Gaberax
11-27-2008, 06:44 AM
The second clue, in other words, is "a state of being with respect to you."

"me" or "i am" or "i'm"
Okay, just got back from a walk with the dog.

Antiquated Right. As in correct? Like yes or aye? Devilish clue (love it!)


?, ?, e, y...Correct so far?

John_and_Yoko
11-27-2008, 11:36 AM
The second clue, in other words, is "a state of being with respect to you."

"me" or "i am" or "i'm"
Okay, just got back from a walk with the dog.

Antiquated Right. As in correct? Like yes or aye? Devilish clue (love it!)


?, ?, e, y...Correct so far?

Correct so far--and you were REALLY closer to the second clue in your first post. You ALMOST had it, in fact.... :unsure:

As for antiquated right, keep guessing.... Remember it's antiquated RIGHT.... And remember, there are different definitions of the word "right"....

Maturins_Daughter
11-27-2008, 04:04 PM
is it a right like a freedom? like the right to bear arms?

civil rights?

droit du seignior?

John_and_Yoko
11-27-2008, 07:10 PM
If you want a hint, here it is (since Clue #1 is DEFINITELY the hardest):

It is NOT that kind of right at all....

...it's "right" as in "not left."

Gaberax
11-28-2008, 08:38 AM
pone
n. - card player on dealer's right, who cuts the cards. (http://www.kokogiak.com/logolepsy/adex.asp)

Pony?

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b230/Gaberax/cool-pony.jpg

John_and_Yoko
11-28-2008, 01:05 PM
:rofl:

No, no, no....

It refers to "right" itself--an antiquated "right." (Not left)

What's an antiquated word for "right"?



HINT: Look at the two clues you've solved already.... Do they have anything in common?

Maturins_Daughter
11-28-2008, 04:47 PM
Is it the vowels? AEIOU and sometimes Y?

John_and_Yoko
11-28-2008, 04:50 PM
Is it the vowels? AEIOU and sometimes Y?

It is not.

But you're on the right track.... :)

Brice
11-28-2008, 05:17 PM
What's an antiquated word for "right"?




dexter

John_and_Yoko
11-28-2008, 05:40 PM
What's an antiquated word for "right"?




dexter

Not it, but now you're DEFINITELY on the right track! :D

It might help to look at the already-answered clues....

John_and_Yoko
11-28-2008, 05:41 PM
State of being...."am", "are", "is"?

Just because no one has gotten the second clue yet....

ONE of those three answers is the right one. Can you tell me which?

Brice
11-28-2008, 05:42 PM
Oh, I suck at the riddles. My mind generally doesn't work that way. I read them all though and that came to mind so I figured I'd throw it out there in case it could help anyone.

Brice
11-28-2008, 05:45 PM
State of being...."am", "are", "is"?

Just because no one has gotten the second clue yet....

ONE of those three answers is the right one. Can you tell me which?

is?

John_and_Yoko
11-28-2008, 05:49 PM
State of being...."am", "are", "is"?

Just because no one has gotten the second clue yet....

ONE of those three answers is the right one. Can you tell me which?

is?

I think I already said no. That leaves two others.

Try to notice a pattern with the clues that have been solved already....

Maturins_Daughter
11-28-2008, 06:19 PM
are "R"

John_and_Yoko
11-28-2008, 06:21 PM
are "R"

Yes! :D

BROWNINGS CHILDE
11-28-2008, 06:23 PM
NOT SINISTER?

John_and_Yoko
11-28-2008, 06:24 PM
NOT SINISTER?

Try to focus on "right" itself, not the "not left." That was just a clue as to the definition of "right" that was intended.

John_and_Yoko
11-28-2008, 06:25 PM
Here's the riddle again, just so you don't have to switch between pages.



As I was walking late one night
I saw an antiquated right.
It was to my far left, say true,
and then I (with respect to you)
did see a state of being pass [are (guessed by Maturins_Daughter]
on my near left, and then just as
important as the number pi, [e (guessed by Gaberax)]
my third companion, walking nigh
to my close right. And thence did come,
on my far right--it struck me dumb--
the question which, if asked aloud, [why (guessed by Gaberax)]
would end all questions. Hand to shroud,
I pondered these four clues and thought
of something Leigh enjoys. I ought
to've seen it sooner--how I laugh,
for it's only the second half!
Before me now the answer was,
and if you tell, 'twill give me pause.

Only the first clue left to go....

HINT: Try to think of what the clue for the entire answer is--since the first clue is difficult, it may help to focus there....

BROWNINGS CHILDE
11-28-2008, 07:03 PM
antiquated right--D?

Gaberax
11-28-2008, 07:38 PM
P for the first and Prey as the answer?
Is this the Leigh in question? (http://www.blockbuster.com/movies/prey-of-the-jaguar.html)

John_and_Yoko
11-28-2008, 08:55 PM
Both wrong.

Hint on Clue #1--it is NOT an abbreviation for ANYTHING. It is quite literally an "antiquated" "right."

And no, that is not the Leigh in question. But I have hope yet that you can crack the code.... ;)

SigTauGimp
11-29-2008, 01:48 AM
This one has been KILLING me since you've posted it, J&Y....I check it like 5-6 times a day to see the progress on it.

I'll throw out a couple of ideas to see if anything will snowball for me...is the first clue two separate synonyms? Like, "Old""Turn"? I only ask because both words were in separate quotations, instead of just one. Also, the only four-letter words I could think of ending in -rey were "grey", and "trey"...but I can't find a way to fit either "G" or "T" into the first clue...:pullhair::panic:

Jon
11-29-2008, 02:23 AM
"old right" = Paleoconservative ??

John_and_Yoko
11-29-2008, 10:11 AM
This one has been KILLING me since you've posted it, J&Y....I check it like 5-6 times a day to see the progress on it.

I'll throw out a couple of ideas to see if anything will snowball for me...is the first clue two separate synonyms? Like, "Old""Turn"? I only ask because both words were in separate quotations, instead of just one. Also, the only four-letter words I could think of ending in -rey were "grey", and "trey"...but I can't find a way to fit either "G" or "T" into the first clue...:pullhair::panic:

The first clue is only ONE thing. I put those in quotation marks to emphasize that they and they alone were the clues to the answer.

HOWEVER....

...you are DEFINITELY on the right track with your guessing! If the correct answer were a vampire, your neck would be sporting two red marks now.... Not going to give it away at this point, because I want you to know the reason WHY a particular answer is the correct one, but I think the Thanksgiving turkey will be yours yet! :D

(@Jon: Nope. "Right" is the direction, not like "right wing.")

Gaberax
11-29-2008, 07:50 PM
Rectory?

recht are e y?

John_and_Yoko
11-29-2008, 08:41 PM
Rectory?

recht are e y?

Nope.

SigTauGimp has come the closest to guessing the answer so far....

Try figuring out the clue for the whole thing and see if that helps.

"Something Leigh enjoys." I'm sure you can crack this code.... ;)

SigTauGimp
11-30-2008, 02:42 AM
Is the Leigh in question Richard Leigh? I wouldn't have noticed the "code" jibe if you wouldn't have put it in bold. :P
If it is, I still can't come up with an answer to the first clue...the only four letter word ending in -rey I can think of involving Richard Leigh is "grey", and that's only because his last book was "Grey Magic." But that wouldn't make sense, because that's the first half of the novel's title...
I pondered these four clues and thought
of something Leigh enjoys. I ought
to've seen it sooner--how I laugh,
for it's only the second half!

I've even looked up older definitions of "right," but all I've found that is close to the directional term is "dexter"...which, at the moment, I can't fit anywhere. :pullhair::panic:

Gaberax
11-30-2008, 08:17 AM
Unless Leigh refers to Leigh Teabing, a character FROM Da Vinci code, who was a Historian and puzzle-master.

As I was riding to the grocery store with my girlfriend, I gave her the clues to date and she immediately said "Year."

Not sure if that is it but I thought it was a good guess.

John_and_Yoko
11-30-2008, 02:32 PM
Unless Leigh refers to Leigh Teabing, a character FROM Da Vinci code, who was a Historian and puzzle-master.

As I was riding to the grocery store with my girlfriend, I gave her the clues to date and she immediately said "Year."

Not sure if that is it but I thought it was a good guess.

"Year" is not correct, but you've guessed the right "Leigh"! :D

You are in the home stretch now....

So what's something Leigh Teabing enjoys?

HINT: It's one of the first things mentioned when Robert and Sophie encounter him..... Bear in mind all the clues so far....

John_and_Yoko
11-30-2008, 02:35 PM
The correct answer HAS been given already--I just want you to know WHY it's the right answer, and that's why I haven't considered this riddle solved yet....

Gaberax
11-30-2008, 03:20 PM
So what's something Leigh Teabing enjoys?

HINT: It's one of the first things mentioned when Robert and Sophie encounter him..... Bear in mind all the clues so far....

Earl Grey tea?

John_and_Yoko
11-30-2008, 03:27 PM
So what's something Leigh Teabing enjoys?

HINT: It's one of the first things mentioned when Robert and Sophie encounter him..... Bear in mind all the clues so far....

Earl Grey tea?

YES!!! :D

So what's the answer to the riddle, Gaberax?

*readies Thanksgiving turkey*

Gaberax
11-30-2008, 03:35 PM
So what's something Leigh Teabing enjoys?

HINT: It's one of the first things mentioned when Robert and Sophie encounter him..... Bear in mind all the clues so far....

Earl Grey tea?

YES!!! :D

So what's the answer to the riddle, Gaberax?

*readies Thanksgiving turkey*

TREY?

John_and_Yoko
11-30-2008, 03:54 PM
So what's something Leigh Teabing enjoys?

HINT: It's one of the first things mentioned when Robert and Sophie encounter him..... Bear in mind all the clues so far....

Earl Grey tea?

YES!!! :D

So what's the answer to the riddle, Gaberax?

*readies Thanksgiving turkey*

TREY?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! COME ON!!! :P

Gaberax
11-30-2008, 04:07 PM
Earl Grey?

John_and_Yoko
11-30-2008, 04:26 PM
Earl Grey?

Close.... :D

John_and_Yoko
11-30-2008, 04:35 PM
of something Leigh enjoys. I ought
to've seen it sooner--how I laugh,
for it's only the second half!

Remember?

SigTauGimp
11-30-2008, 05:03 PM
Grey, because it's the second half of "Earl Grey"?

I think you may need to split that lovely bird up into sections, J&Y. :P

John_and_Yoko
11-30-2008, 05:59 PM
Grey, because it's the second half of "Earl Grey"?

I think you may need to split that lovely bird up into sections, J&Y. :P

You've got it! :D

And yes, I think you and Gaberax should split the Thanksgiving turkey, and give a section of it to Maturins_Daughter.

Extra dressings if anyone can explain the first clue to me.

Gaberax
11-30-2008, 06:07 PM
Excellent riddle, John_and_Yoko! A real challenge! Congratulations to SigTauGimp and Maturins_Daughter, as well. A great team effort. :clap:

John_and_Yoko
11-30-2008, 06:10 PM
Excellent riddle, John_and_Yoko! A real challenge! Congratulations to SigTauGimp and Maturins_Daughter, as well. A great team effort. :clap:

Thanks! :D And thanks to my friend who gave me the original riddle (and complimented me on my rhyming of it)!

Care to explain the first clue, and how it plays into the final answer?

Maturins_Daughter
11-30-2008, 07:38 PM
You used to say "gee" to a horse to get it to turn right.... right?

John_and_Yoko
11-30-2008, 07:41 PM
You used to say "gee" to a horse to get it to turn right.... right?

:D

Yes!!!

Double portions of turkey and dressing to you!

SigTauGimp
11-30-2008, 11:17 PM
You used to say "gee" to a horse to get it to turn right.... right?

:D

Yes!!!

Double portions of turkey and dressing to you!

I would have NEVER figured that out...way to go, Maturins_Daughter!

Excellent riddle, J&Y!!! :clap:

John_and_Yoko
11-30-2008, 11:20 PM
You used to say "gee" to a horse to get it to turn right.... right?

:D

Yes!!!

Double portions of turkey and dressing to you!

I would have NEVER figured that out...way to go, Maturins_Daughter!

Excellent riddle, J&Y!!! :clap:

Thanks! :D

Yeah, "gee" meant "right," and "haw" meant left. :) Well done, all!

Gaberax
12-01-2008, 05:01 AM
You used to say "gee" to a horse to get it to turn right.... right?

Excellent, Maturins_Daughter.

Maturins_Daughter
12-01-2008, 08:44 AM
Is that where "yee haw" comes from? I wonder...hmmmm

John_and_Yoko
12-01-2008, 12:18 PM
Is that where "yee haw" comes from? I wonder...hmmmm

I never thought of that. Maybe.... :wtf: