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turtlex
11-04-2008, 03:33 PM
Remember, Remember The Fifth of November,
The Gunpowder, Treason and Plot.
I Know Of No Reason Why The Gunpowder Treason,
Should Ever Be Forgot.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/52/115684363_bb695efc11.jpg
http://www.dullneon.com/_psychosis-arcs/images/hugo-weaving-V-for-Vendetta.jpg
http://www.musicweb-international.com/film/2006/jun06/v4vendetta.jpg
http://www.moviewallpapers.net/images/wallpapers/2005/v-for-vendetta/v-for-vendetta-6-800.jpg
http://z.about.com/d/worldfilm/1/7/q/S/v_for_vendetta_poster_06.jpg
http://www.youbuynow.com/img/items/115583010179531400.jpg
http://www.happynovisad.co.yu/film/v_for_vendetta/v_for_vendetta3.jpg
http://upload.moldova.org/movie/movies/v/v_for_vendetta/thumbnails/tn2_v_for_vendetta_4.jpg


Fawkes At Midnight,
And By Torchlight,
There Was Found,
With Long Matches and Devices,
Underground.

Remember, remember the Fifth of November,
The Gunpowder Treason and Plot,
I see no reason
Why the Gunpowder Treason
Should ever be forgot.
Guy Fawkes, Guy Fawkes, t'was his intent
To blow up the King and Parli'ment.
Three-score barrels of powder below
To prove old England's overthrow;
By God's providence he was catch'd
With a dark lantern and burning match.
Holloa boys, holloa boys, let the bells ring.
Holloa boys, holloa boys, God save the King!

Harrald
11-04-2008, 05:10 PM
The last man to enter Parliament with honourable intentions!

Wuducynn
11-04-2008, 05:20 PM
Remember, Remember The Fifth of November,
The Gunpowder, Treason and Plot.
I Know Of No Reason Why The Gunpowder Treason,
Should Ever Be Forgot.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/52/115684363_bb695efc11.jpg
http://www.dullneon.com/_psychosis-arcs/images/hugo-weaving-V-for-Vendetta.jpg
http://www.musicweb-international.com/film/2006/jun06/v4vendetta.jpg
http://www.moviewallpapers.net/images/wallpapers/2005/v-for-vendetta/v-for-vendetta-6-800.jpg
http://z.about.com/d/worldfilm/1/7/q/S/v_for_vendetta_poster_06.jpg
http://www.youbuynow.com/img/items/115583010179531400.jpg
http://www.happynovisad.co.yu/film/v_for_vendetta/v_for_vendetta3.jpg
http://upload.moldova.org/movie/movies/v/v_for_vendetta/thumbnails/tn2_v_for_vendetta_4.jpg


Fawkes At Midnight,
And By Torchlight,
There Was Found,
With Long Matches and Devices,
Underground.

Remember, remember the Fifth of November,
The Gunpowder Treason and Plot,
I see no reason
Why the Gunpowder Treason
Should ever be forgot.
Guy Fawkes, Guy Fawkes, t'was his intent
To blow up the King and Parli'ment.
Three-score barrels of powder below
To prove old England's overthrow;
By God's providence he was catch'd
With a dark lantern and burning match.
Holloa boys, holloa boys, let the bells ring.
Holloa boys, holloa boys, God save the King!


AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH THANK YOU!!! http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m168/Los_The_Red/V_mask_50.gif

turtlex
11-05-2008, 03:31 AM
The last man to enter Parliament with honourable intentions!

Ah, another V fan. Welcome and be well met.




AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH THANK YOU!!! http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m168/Los_The_Red/V_mask_50.gif

I knew you'd be here with me!!! http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m168/Los_The_Red/V_mask_50.gif
( and I'm stealing your little V head! )

jayson
11-05-2008, 04:23 AM
The book is SIGNIFICANTLY better than the film. I would highly recommend it to anyone who has only seen the film.

turtlex
11-05-2008, 04:25 AM
I read the graphic novel long ago and then saw, and loved, the film.

I will watch the movie today when I get home from work, on account of it being Nov 5th.

I might just re-read the gn as well. It's been years.

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m168/Los_The_Red/V_mask_50.gif
( Inserting little V head because it's Nov 5th )

Harrald
11-05-2008, 06:41 AM
More of a Guy Fawkes fan. I liked the GN and enjoyed the movie too.

There is a whole exhibition in the Globe theater about the gunpowder plot. I really didn't know anything about it till I went there.




The last man to enter Parliament with honourable intentions!

Ah, another V fan. Welcome and be well met.

sarah
11-05-2008, 07:34 AM
V: They put you in a cell and took everything they could take except your life. And you believed that was all there was, didn't you? The only thing you had left was your life, but it wasn't, was it?
[Evey sobs, "Oh please...?]
V: You found something else. In that cell you found something that mattered more to you than life. It was when they threatened to kill you unless you gave them what they wanted... you told them you'd rather die. You faced your death, Evey. You were calm. You were still.


loved this movie. great thread, turtlex

turtlex
11-05-2008, 07:37 AM
:couple:

I love the movie. Completely. Am looking forward to watching it on Blu-Ray tonight !

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m168/Los_The_Red/V_mask_50.gif
( Inserting little V head because it's Nov 5th )

Letti
11-05-2008, 09:34 AM
I am in love with this movie. I truelly am.

Wuducynn
11-05-2008, 09:49 AM
I love the movie too, but I wish the movie stuck closer to the graphic novel on which it is loosely based. Although I think some of the base freedom messages throughout the movie still stick with the book.

Wuducynn
11-05-2008, 09:51 AM
http://www.dullneon.com/_psychosis-arcs/images/hugo-weaving-V-for-Vendetta.jpg




http://www.happynovisad.co.yu/film/v_for_vendetta/v_for_vendetta3.jpg





Two of my favorite scenes in the movie.

jayson
11-05-2008, 09:57 AM
I love the movie too, but I wish the movie stuck closer to the graphic novel on which it is loosely based. Although I think some of the base freedom messages throughout the movie still stick with the book.

I agree. Matthew knows that since we have discussed it before. I think the overall feel is still there, though the movie abandoned the anarchist element which was the key to V's philosophy. As V's creator Alan Moore has complained, the movie took an anarchist and made him into a freedom fighter.

I prefer the goal of "book V" to push people to a post-governmental society to the goal of "movie V" which was to simply push people to free themselves a specific ruling government.

I also much prefer the less wholesome book version of Evey, and as Matthew and I have discussed, we would have loved to have seen Natalie Portman play that Evey.

Letti
11-05-2008, 10:02 AM
I will try to get the book.

jayson
11-05-2008, 10:11 AM
You should definitely give it a try Letti. I'll be interested to know what you think about it if you do get a chance to read it.

Arthur Heath
11-05-2008, 10:13 AM
The book is SIGNIFICANTLY better than the film. I would highly recommend it to anyone who has only seen the film.

Agreed. Alan Moore was so disappointed he didnt want his name associated with the film.

jayson
11-05-2008, 10:16 AM
Very true. Moore usually winds up feeling that way about film adaptations of his work so it's easy for some people to just write it off as him being a crank, but when I read/hear the reasons he gives, he almost always makes excellent points.

Letti
11-05-2008, 10:19 AM
And are you satisfied with the acting of V? You who have read the book.

fernandito
11-05-2008, 10:23 AM
I think Weaving did an excellent job as V.


--

V: ...A building is a symbol, as is the act of destroying it. Symbols are given power by people. A symbol, in and of itself is powerless, but with enough people behind it, blowing up a building can change the world.

Arthur Heath
11-05-2008, 10:35 AM
The acting by V was superb. No complaints there.

turtlex
11-05-2008, 10:35 AM
I think Weaving was excellent.
So much comes through that mask with just his voice and mannerisms.

I also thought NPortman was great. A really good performance. I wasn't much of a fan of hers before, but was immediately following. She has to carry so much emotion with her reactions to V.

A really great performance by the whole cast, though John Hurt was just a tad over the top for me.

All_Hail - those are probably my two favorites as well, though it's hard to decide. When Evey first figures out that is it V holding her captive, I love that scene too. Just before the "God Is In The Rain" scene here.

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m168/Los_The_Red/V_mask_50.gif
( Inserting little V head because it's Nov 5th )

jayson
11-05-2008, 10:38 AM
I agree, I thought the casting was excellent and that the actors did great jobs with their roles. My issues are much more with the story elements.

Letti
11-05-2008, 10:38 AM
I think Weaving was excellent.
So much comes through that mask with just his voice and mannerisms.

I also thought NPortman was great. A really good performance. I wasn't much of a fan of hers before, but was immediately following. She has to carry so much emotion with her reactions to V.

I feel absolutely the same way. They were perfect.
Anyway... does their relationship end up in the book the same way as in the movie? Are there any big differences between the stories?

jayson
11-05-2008, 10:42 AM
Anyway... does their relationship end up in the book the same way as in the movie? Are there any big differences between the stories?

There are some pretty significant differences and some not so significant ones. I won't spoil them for you as I think it would be best to experience it for yourself when you eventually read the book.

Letti
11-05-2008, 10:43 AM
Anyway... does their relationship end up in the book the same way as in the movie? Are there any big differences between the stories?

There are some pretty significant differences and some not so significant ones. I won't spoil them for you as I think it would be best to experience it for yourself when you eventually read the book.

ehhh :rolleyes:

Harrald
11-05-2008, 10:47 AM
Moore is a crank. He believes that his books stand alone and there is no need to make them into movies. He has stated that he "Has enough money" so the fat movie cash is a non-issue. He's already written off "Watchmen" and will not ever see the movie (at least he says he'll never watch it).

Also, after what was done to "League of extraordinary gentlemen" he has a right to be a crank. I like him. At least he has the balls (and budget) to back up his mouth.




Agreed. Alan Moore was so disappointed he didnt want his name associated with the film.


P.S. Anything with Natalie Portman is OK in my book.....She's a hottie. I could watch her paint a birdhouse for hours and not get bored.

Wuducynn
11-05-2008, 10:51 AM
I will try to get the book.

Here you go Letti -

Amazon.com: V for Vendetta New (New Edition TPB): Alan Moore, David Lloyd: Books

Letti
11-05-2008, 11:09 AM
I will try to get the book.

Here you go Letti -

Amazon.com: V for Vendetta New (New Edition TPB): Alan Moore, David Lloyd: Books

Amazon doesn't deliver to Hungary because of the horrible post service.
I will go to my favourite bookstore. It's called PenDragon and they can get anything.
But thanks a lot. :rose:

Wuducynn
11-05-2008, 11:10 AM
Amazon doesn't deliver to Hungary because of the horrible post service.
I will go to my favourite bookstore. It's called PenDragon and they can get anything.
But thanks a lot. :rose:

Ah. Well thats cool you have that store. Sounds like a cool shop.

turtlex
11-05-2008, 11:11 AM
Letti - Make sure you ask for the graphic novel, as I am pretty sure there was a novelization of the film.

If you can't get it - lemme know, we can figure something out.

Letti
11-05-2008, 11:16 AM
I'm gonna get it. Noone can stop me.
Thank you, guys.

cozener
11-14-2008, 04:23 PM
The book is SIGNIFICANTLY better than the film. I would highly recommend it to anyone who has only seen the film.

Considering just how fucking amazing the film was the book must be a total mindblower.

Wuducynn
11-14-2008, 05:22 PM
Yeah, Jayson and I have a difference of opinion on it being "SIGNIFICANTLY" better than the film. I love both equally, but differently.

jayson
11-14-2008, 05:25 PM
We do indeed. It's not even that I dislike the movie, I just like the book a lot more. That's the case for me with about 99% of adaptations. I definitely think if Coz liked the film (which he clearly did) than he should check out the book and let us know what he thought. How's that for diplomacy?

Wuducynn
11-14-2008, 05:36 PM
We do indeed. It's not even that I dislike the movie, I just like the book a lot more. That's the case for me with about 99% of adaptations. I definitely think if Coz liked the film (which he clearly did) than he should check out the book and let us know what he thought. How's that for diplomacy?

Oh I never suggested he not read the book, of course he should. Anything to get him to put down this months issue of Penthouse Forum and jar of KY Jelly for a couple of minutes.

jayson
11-14-2008, 05:43 PM
:lol:

I don't know, once he sees some of those panels of Evey-the-hooker he may start up again.

turtlex
11-15-2008, 02:37 AM
I just read where there is a New Version of V for Vendetta coming out in January. It's supposed to be on higher quality paper, and have better coloring.

Here the write up : A new trade paperback edition of the graphic novel that inspired the hit movie! A powerful story about loss of freedom and individuality, V FOR VENDETTA takes place in a totalitarian England following a devastating war that changed the face of the planet. In a world without political freedom, personal freedom and precious little faith in anything comes a mysterious man in a white porcelain mask who fights political oppressors through terrorism and seemingly absurd acts. It's a gripping tale of the blurred lines between ideological good and evil. This new trade paperback edition of the classic series from writer Alan Moore (WATCHMEN, LEAGUE OF EXTRAORDINARY GENTLEMEN) and artist David Lloyd (HELLBLAZER) collects the epic miniseries and features the improved production values and coloring from the 2005 hardcover. On sale January 24 / 296 pg, FC $19.99 US / MATURE READERS

Letti - You were going to try and get a copy, you might want to wait until this improved graphic novel comes out.

Wuducynn
11-15-2008, 10:47 AM
I just read where there is a New Version of V for Vendetta coming out in January. It's supposed to be on higher quality paper, and have better coloring.

Here the write up : A new trade paperback edition of the graphic novel that inspired the hit movie! A powerful story about loss of freedom and individuality, V FOR VENDETTA takes place in a totalitarian England following a devastating war that changed the face of the planet. In a world without political freedom, personal freedom and precious little faith in anything comes a mysterious man in a white porcelain mask who fights political oppressors through terrorism and seemingly absurd acts. It's a gripping tale of the blurred lines between ideological good and evil. This new trade paperback edition of the classic series from writer Alan Moore (WATCHMEN, LEAGUE OF EXTRAORDINARY GENTLEMEN) and artist David Lloyd (HELLBLAZER) collects the epic miniseries and features the improved production values and coloring from the 2005 hardcover. On sale January 24 / 296 pg, FC $19.99 US / MATURE READERS

Letti - You were going to try and get a copy, you might want to wait until this improved graphic novel comes out.

Link?

cozener
11-15-2008, 11:32 AM
We do indeed. It's not even that I dislike the movie, I just like the book a lot more. That's the case for me with about 99% of adaptations. I definitely think if Coz liked the film (which he clearly did) than he should check out the book and let us know what he thought. How's that for diplomacy?

Oh I never suggested he not read the book, of course he should. Anything to get him to put down this months issue of Penthouse Forum and jar of KY Jelly for a couple of minutes. I suppose I could alternate...

and for the record I use petroleum jelly. I know, I know. Its harder to clean off. But it lasts so much longer.

turtlex
11-15-2008, 12:52 PM
Sorry, no link right now.

I pre-ordered mine via an online comic book store ( www.mycomicshop.com ) that I deal with sometimes.

You have to join a kind of subscription club - I would suggest just waiting on amazon.

turtlex
05-03-2009, 09:48 AM
http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss325/razzdevavres/2331.jpg?t=1241233497

I want one of these for my house!

( courtesy of razz )

Ka-mai
05-03-2009, 06:43 PM
I know I'm probably going to be hated for this, but I found the graphic novel to be slightly disappointing. I can't remember specifics right now, but I thought it jumped around a little too much and was slightly hard to follow.

I also think it's funny how some people I know were all "omg, Evey's a PROSTITUTE in the book!" Sorry, I don't think miserably failing at your first attempt makes you a prostitute. Still not great, but not a prostitute.

DoctorDodge
05-04-2009, 05:25 AM
Hate to say it but i agree with you, ka-mai. I just could not get into the graphic novel. I have yet to see the film, but the plot of the GN just seemed to move too slowly for me. It was one of the reasons why it took me so long to read Watchmen. Now Watchmen, i'm a big fan of, but V for Vendetta...I don't know. I'll try and give it another read, anyway.

turtlex
05-04-2009, 05:27 AM
The thing to remember with V is that the movie and the GN are very different.

I happen to have loved both of them. I'm fickle like that.

Deschain
05-04-2009, 05:40 AM
The movie was absolutely brilliant and I think I may just read the book if it is as said, 'SIGNIFICANTLY better than the movie'

jayson
05-04-2009, 05:44 AM
It really depends on what you consider "better" which is obviously subjective for each of us. I enjoy the book better because the political themes of the book are more in line with the way I see things then they are in the film. It was one of the changes that I didn't care for in the film (although I do enjoy the film). Let's say that politically speaking I prefer Alan Moore's "anarchist V" to the Whachowski's "freedom fighter V." I also liked the books further exploration of some of the in-fighting within Norsefire.

Deschain
05-04-2009, 05:49 AM
Well I do enjoy Politics, It's one of the subjects I'm doing at school. Also I've had recent thoughts about starting a political party in the near future with a goal of doing things right as opposed to the normal governments and their want to be re-elected. Thats not to say that they arent doing anything at all but... I've wandered off topic, I'll read the book :)...Just after I read 'Paradise Lost' and the other book I got given at school.

jayson
05-04-2009, 05:54 AM
Deschain, when you get around to reading it, let us know what you think.

Oh, and welcome to the site. :)

Deschain
05-04-2009, 06:00 AM
I'll be sure too let you know :) And Thankee big big for the welcome. I swear this is the site for the friendly people of the interwebs

turtlex
05-04-2009, 07:44 AM
Deschain - for sure, Jayson it right on the money.

Take the movie for what it is - and then enjoy the graphic novel. They're different - very different.

And yes, welcome!

Deschain
05-04-2009, 07:49 AM
I will most certainly read it. And thankee to you also for the welcome

Spencer
05-04-2009, 03:30 PM
Definitely a great book and movie. While the movie watered down the themes of the book to make things basically about Conservatism v. Liberalism, it still kept some of the major stuff, most notably Valerie's letter. I absolutely hated the changing of the character traits of Evey, but she was beautifully played by Natalie Portman. Excellent film for sure.

idk, my bff jill?
05-04-2009, 03:43 PM
At ComicCon this weekend:

http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd334/POW-lah/Stuff/DSC02174.jpg

I think he remembers the fifth of November.

turtlex
05-05-2009, 03:07 AM
At ComicCon this weekend:

http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd334/POW-lah/Stuff/DSC02174.jpg

I think he remembers the fifth of November.

Win!!

Looks like he was in the costume contest... I hope he really did WIN!

Ka-mai
05-10-2009, 08:36 PM
Hate to say it but i agree with you, ka-mai. I just could not get into the graphic novel. I have yet to see the film, but the plot of the GN just seemed to move too slowly for me. It was one of the reasons why it took me so long to read Watchmen. Now Watchmen, i'm a big fan of, but V for Vendetta...I don't know. I'll try and give it another read, anyway.

I liked Watchmen a lot better than V (graphic novel-wise, movie-wise is the opposite). Although I have to wonder if I'd have liked the graphic novel V more if I had read it before I'd seen the movie.

turtlex
05-11-2009, 12:52 AM
Hate to say it but i agree with you, ka-mai. I just could not get into the graphic novel. I have yet to see the film, but the plot of the GN just seemed to move too slowly for me. It was one of the reasons why it took me so long to read Watchmen. Now Watchmen, i'm a big fan of, but V for Vendetta...I don't know. I'll try and give it another read, anyway.

I liked Watchmen a lot better than V (graphic novel-wise, movie-wise is the opposite). Although I have to wonder if I'd have liked the graphic novel V more if I had read it before I'd seen the movie.

That's a really good question, because I think the movie is just wonderful and I loved the graphic novel, too.

I did read the graphic novel first - but honest, I kind of take them as two different things entirely.

Wuducynn
05-12-2009, 01:53 PM
I love the movie and the book, I just wish the movie had kept a lot closer to the book theme and story wise.

turtlex
11-05-2009, 03:11 AM
http://www.afterelton.com/archive/elton/movies/2006/photos/vendetta/rain.jpg


Remember, Remember The Fifth of November,
The Gunpowder, Treason and Plot,
I Know Of No Reason Why The Gunpowder Treason,
Should Ever Be Forgot.


Fawkes At Midnight,
And By Torchlight,
There Was Found,
With Long Matches And Devices,
Underground.


http://www.dullneon.com/_psychosis-arcs/images/hugo-weaving-V-for-Vendetta.jpg

razz
11-05-2009, 05:19 AM
:D

turtlex
11-05-2009, 05:36 AM
I'll be heading home from work today and watching V for Vendetta - as I have done every Nov 5th since the movie has been out. Then, perhaps I'll peruse my Absolute V for Vendetta GN. Ah.... I love November 5th.

cozener
11-05-2009, 05:51 AM
Damn. I still haven't read the book! I'll be doing that soon I think. I've been thinking about it lately. But tonight I'll be watching the movie. :)

turtlex
11-05-2009, 08:16 AM
Coz - The GN is a must.. and very different from the movie. I love them both.

candy
11-05-2009, 12:15 PM
((hugs)) to you all and pam, i wish you were here to see the island lit up. They set fire works off at all 4 corners of the island at once!

bonfire night... love it (apart from dogs and cats being scared, but ine are ok so thats cool, and yes i know i am waffling)

and yes i loved V (who doesn't):rose:

turtlex
11-12-2009, 08:04 AM
Super-cool V For Vendetta Info :


Being huge fans of the original comic series, The Wachowski brothers (Andy Wachowski and Larry Wachowski) wrote a draft of the script in the '90s before they worked on The Matrix (1999), which shares several similar themes with "V for Vendetta".



Natalie Portman was chosen for the role of Evey over Scarlett Johansson and Bryce Dallas Howard.


The rhyme referenced by the tag line is called 'The Bonfire Prayer' and commemorates 'Guy Fawkes night', November the 5th, when a Catholic plot to overthrow the British parliament was foiled. There are several slight variations of the full words, one of which goes...?Remember, remember, the fifth of November, gunpowder treason and plot. I see no reason why the gunpowder treason should ever be forgot. Guy Fawkes, Guy Fawkes, 'twas his intent to blow up the King and the Parliament. Three score barrels of powder below, Poor old England to overthrow: By God's providence he was catch'd With a dark lantern and burning match. Holloa boys, holloa boys, make the bells ring. Holloa boys, holloa boys, God save the King! Hip hip hoorah! A penny loaf to feed the Pope. A farthing o' cheese to choke him. A pint of beer to rinse it down. A faggot of sticks to burn him. Burn him in a tub of tar. Burn him like a blazing star. Burn his body from his head. Then we'll say ol' Pope is dead. Hip hip hoorah! Hip hip hoorah!" It is still recited in full at the famous Lewes bonfire night celebrations in East Sussex.


The cast and crew were only allowed to shoot in the area near the British Parliament and the Clock Tower from midnight to 4.30 am. Furthermore, they were only allowed to stop traffic for four minutes at a time.


Natalie Portman looked forward to shaving her head totally bald for the role of Evey Hammond during the torture scenes, stating that she has wanted to do it for a long time. For the shaving scene, the crew and the shaving guys had only one take to do it.


James Purefoy was originally cast as V but left the project because he had great difficulty breathing behind the Guy Fawkes mask. Hugo Weaving was then brought in to take his place.


Natalie Portman worked with Barbara Berkery, the dialectologist who also worked with Gwyneth Paltrow, to perfect her English accent.


The Houses of Parliament destroyed in the film are not the same buildings which Guy Fawkes planned to destroy in 1605. The original Parliament buildings were destroyed in a fire in 1834. The current buildings are built on the same site and took 30 years to build, finishing in 1870. They were largely destroyed again in World War Two and rebuilt to the original design in the late 1940s.


The scenes near the end that take place in an abandoned London Underground station were actually filmed at Aldwych, a branch from the Piccadilly line that was closed in 1994. The branch still has its tracks and current rails, allowing an operational train to be used in the scene.


V's pseudonym, "Rookwood", is the last name of another conspirator at the 1605 Gunpowder Plot, as are the names of Rookwood's friends "Percy" and "Keyes".


The domino scene (where V tips over black and red dominoes to form a giant letter V) involved 22,000 dominoes, was assembled by four professional domino assemblers, and took 200 hours to set up.


The masks that the soldiers wear outside The Houses of Parliament are JT X-FIRE brand paintball masks.


The "scrambler device" that Finch uses in his office is in fact a popular type of pocket reading light, with a red bulb or filter added to make it look more high-tech.


The line about God playing dice with the universe comes from Einstein's objections to quantum theory, in which he said that "At any rate, I am convinced that He [God] does not play dice."


When Evey gets up from underneath the desk during V's pirate broadcast, there is a copy of "Watchmen", another comic by Alan Moore on the desk in front of her.


The skit making fun of the High Chancellor was a tribute to "The Benny Hill Show" (1969) as many of the skits used this music ("Yakety Sax") and high speed footage.


In the original graphic novel, V's cause was anarchy, not freedom. Alan Moore was specifically and harshly critical of the movie for changing what he called the "anarchy vs. fascism" structure of his graphic novel into what he saw as an exploration of "American neo-liberalism vs. American neo-conservatism" that should have been thusly set in the U.S. instead of Britain.


In the original graphic novel, the leader's name is Adam Susan, not Sutler.


The name Evey is pronounced EV, with E being the fifth letter of the alphabet, V being five in Latin and Y being the 25th letter (5 squared)


Interestingly, John Hurt played Winston in the film Nineteen Eighty-Four (1984) - in this film he was the victim of the totalitarian state (and the original "Big Brother"). In Nineteen Eighty-Four (1984), TV screens with Big Brother's face were watching and spying citizens.


On a clock that has an hour hand and a minute hand, the time 11:05 makes a V. These two numbers, 11 and 5, where 11 is November, and 5 is the day of November, spell out: the fifth of November. "Remember, remember the 5th of November."


The original comic series was originally created by Alan Moore. However, following his negative experience with From Hell (2001) and The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (2003), Moore decided to reject all money and credit from Hollywood on any adaptations of his work. Thus, he gave all the money he would've gotten to the artist who drew the character with him, and rejected his own "created by" credit from the film.


Ben Miles plays Dascomb in "V for Vendetta". A scene depicts a security van with listening devices cruising through a neighborhood. One of dialogs picked up is "I'm Dick Darlington" from the 'The End of the Line' episode of Season 2 of the comedy "Coupling" (2000) that also stars Ben Miles.


At the set of Prothero's bathroom, a collection of dolls can be seen in the background. This is a reference to the graphic novel where V burned the dolls.


Towards the end of the movie when V meets Creedy he announces his presence by saying, "Penny for the Guy." This is a reference to a children's custom in England around November 5th ("Guy Fawkes day") when children make a Guy Fawkes mannequin to be burned on the bonfire in the evening and ask for money in the meantime with which to buy fireworks.


The tune V's humming along to when he was cooking eggs for Evey is "The Girl From Ipanema."


The symbol of the Norsefire Party is one form of an ancient heraldic symbol called the "Croix de Lorraine". A similar symbol was adopted as the official symbol of General Charles de Gaulle's Free French Forces between 1940 and 1944. It was later used for various Gaullist political parties in France, notably the RPR (Rally for the Republic).


Included in the images seen on T.V. as Valerie talks about America's war growing worse and then eventually coming to London, is footage of baby Jessica McClure being pulled out of the well she fell into in Texas in 1987.


The building used for the wide-angle shot of Evey on the balcony actually exists, although certain architectural details were digitally modified. It is located at 1 Cornhill, London, and is just across the street from the Bank of England.


According to the police archives, the St Marys virus outbreak started May 13 2006.


The musical theme accompanying the explosions in the beginning and at the end of the film is Tchaikovsky's "1812 Overture"


Among the paintings in V's lair are Waterhouse's "The Lady of Shalott", "Puberty" by Edvard Munch, "Bacchus and Ariadne" by Titian, and "Elohim Creating Adam" by William Blake.


The exchange between Evey and V that ends with V saying, "A revolution without dancing is a revolution not worth having!" is a reference to a famous paraphrase of the words of American Anarchist Feminist, Emma Goldman (1869-1940). One version of the familiar line attributed to her is, "If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution." While this particular phrase is not hers, it is a distillation of a passage from her autobiography, "Living My Life" published in 1931.


After V sends out Guy Fawkes masks to everyone and the riots start, the TV announcer mentioned that the first riots started in Brixton. This is a reference to the Brixton riots of 1981 in London.


Just to the left of the jukebox is the painting "Giovanni Arnolfini and His Bride" (1434) by Jan Van Eyck.


The voice-overs about the futility of non-violence and the definition of humanism that can be heard during the end credits are sound bites from speeches given by Malcolm X and Gloria Steinem, respectively.


In the special features of the DVD, John Hurt states that the film is rather like a combination of Nineteen Eighty-Four (1984) and Alien (1979), both of which he starred in.


Most of the forbidden objects in V's shadow gallery are classical works of art and culture but a few modern ones can be seen, most prominently (though still discretely), The Vitra Lounge Chair by Eames and Valerio Bottin's Bubble Lamp.


In the memorial for those that died as a result of the virus, the statues are of children playing "Ring a Ring o' Roses". There is a frequently cited urban legend that this nursery rhyme was about the Great Plague of London.


V quotes Polonius from Shakespeare's Hamlet Act 3, Scene 1 when he first meets Evey: "We are oft to blame in this, - / 'Tis too much proved - that with devotion's visage/ And pious action we do sugar o'er/ The devil himself."


Adrian Biddle's final film. He died on December 7 2005 from a heart attack. The film is dedicated to him.


The supervising art director, Kevin Phipps, and the production designer, Owen Paterson, are listed on the Larkhill staff list.


Hugo Weaving based his accent on Harold Wilson - the British Prime Minister 1964-1970 and 1974-1976.


In the comic, illustrator David Lloyd often subtly changed the Guy Fawkes mask worn by V so as to suit the mood or tone a particular scene. The filmmakers considered replicating this in the movie, by designing a number of subtly different masks, but they ultimately decided that it would be better to simply alter the shadows and lighting in post-production rather than literally having different masks for different scenes.


All of V's dialogue was recorded via ADR. Initially, a mask was designed with a small microphone inside it and another mike was designed to sit along the hair line of actor Hugo Weaving, but neither worked very well.


Costume designer Sammy Sheldon had only 5 weeks prep time.


The exact same font is found on all the posters and signs seen throughout the movie except the posters for Valerie's movies.


All of the models (the Old Bailey, the Clock Tower and the Houses of Parliament) were built at tenth scale, and together, they took 20 people 10 weeks to build.


When shooting the fight in Victoria Station, the stunt-men literally moved in slow motion on set whilst David Leitch (Hugo Weaving's stunt double) moved in real time - thus making it seem as if he was moving much faster then the Fingermen. Additionally, the scene was shot at 60fps to slow the Fingermen down even further.


For the scene when V emerges from Larkhill, stunt double Chad Stahelski literally walked through fire, wearing just a special fire resistant gel and a g-string. Stahelski's body temperature had to be lowered before the scene was shot, and luckily, it was 3 below zero the night of the shoot. 15 minutes before a take, he would put on ice cold flame resistant clothing, and once he took them off, he would be covered with fire resistant gel which had been icing all day long.


Prior to shooting the movie, director James McTeigue studied the Gillo Pontecorvo film La battaglia di Algeri (1966)


Natalie Portman did research for her role by watching the Sam Green and Bill Siegel documentary The Weather Underground (2002), and by reading the Antonia Fraser book about Guy Fawkes, Fate and Treason, as well as the autobiography of Menachem Begin (the founder of the Irgun Party in Israel).


The two tanks used in the scenes in Parliament Square were real army tanks that had been decommissioned. Each night, prior to transporting the vehicles to the shoot, each tank was inspected by government security personnel to ensure their weaponry was not functional and had been altered in any way. They were then taken via trucks to the location, with no stops allowed during transportation, and were accompanied by armed security officials the entire way.


For the scenes in Parliament Square, background checks were conducted on every actor and technician who carried a weapon and the bar-codes on each and every piece of weaponry was scanned so as to track the individuals authorized to handle them.


Keira Knightley auditioned for the role of Evey Hammond.


Certain scenes within the film feature James Purefoy as V, who was originally cast in the role but replaced by Hugo Weaving four weeks into filming. Weaving's voice was simply dubbed over Purefoy's performance. Director James McTeigue said in an interview: "Can I tell the difference? Yeah. Can the audience tell? I doubt it."


In the movie Stephen Fry's character Dietrich hosts a variety show in England. In real life, Fry has starred in and hosted several different variety shows, including '"A Bit of Fry and Laurie" (1986)' with fellow British actor Hugh Laurie.


The song "Long Black Train" foreshadows on Inspector Finch's alarm in the morning of November 5th, when the film ultimately ends.


The reason the secret police are called "Fingermen" is because the New Order was arranged on the model of the human body. The Chancellor was the Head; the television station BTN was the mouth; visual and audio surveillance were the Eye and the Ear; Inspector Finch was part of The Nose, the police force, and Creedy secret police were the Hand.


Euan Blair, son of the then British Prime Minister Tony Blair, worked as a runner for the film's production company. The role drew criticism after it was suggested by actor Stephen Fry that permission to film in government buildings was obtained through Blair Jnr's political connections - an allegation strenuously denied by producers. Conservative MP David Davies told the Sunday Times: "It smacks of sheer hypocrisy that Blair's government is willing to arrest a woman for simply making a protest in Whitehall but is happy to open the doors when Blair's son turns up in a film which is about parliament being blown up."


The account of Adam Sutler's rise to power that V delivers to Inspector Finch closely parallels the account Leo Tolstoy gives of Napoleon's rise to power in France in Part I, Chapter III of the Epilogue to War and Peace.


Several of the main themes (music), when written out on a staff form the letter V if the notes are connected, dot to dot. Specifically the theme that's played at the beginning of "The Dominoes Fall," or the piano solo during "Valerie."


In the movie Mr. Creedy says: "You've got nothing but your bloody knives and your fancy karate gimmicks. We have guns." This line is similar to one from Mr. Almond in the book, a character that was excluded from the movie.


In the original graphic novel the leader relies on a centralized computer system called Fate to help maintain control.


"Madam Justice" as called by V, doesn't have blindfolds. The reason the common Madam Justice has blindfolds is to represent that justice does not see, therefore she cannot be biased or discriminatory in any way. As the new government in the film is extremely discriminatory towards many different groups, the Madame Justice in the film has no blindfold.


During the introduction of V to Evey, starting with "Voila", V uses words that begin with "V" 47 times.



* There are repeated references to the letter "V" and the number five throughout the film. For example, V's introductory monologue to Evey begins and ends with "V", has five sentences, and contains 49 words that begin with "V". Similar references are made through V's background, choice of words and action. V is held in Larkhill cell number "V". A favorite Latin phrase of V's is said to be from "Faust" but in fact was a motto of the notorious occultist Aleister Crowley: "Vi Veri Vniversum Vivus Vici" ("By the power of truth, I, a living man, have conquered the universe". The word "Vniversum" is mis-spelled in the movie and original comic as Veniversum; ). In a dance with Evey, the song V chooses is number five on his jukebox, though all the songs on his jukebox are numbered "5". When V confronts Creedy in his home, he plays Beethoven's "Fifth" Symphony, whose opening notes have a rhythmic pattern that resembles the letter "V" in Morse code (•••-). The Symphony's opening was used as a call-sign in the European broadcasts of the BBC during World War II in reference to Winston Churchill's "V for Victory". The film's title itself, is also a reference to "V for Victory". In the battle with Creedy and his men at Victoria station, V forms a "V" with his daggers just before he throws them. After the battle, when V is mortally wounded, he leaves a "V" signature in his own blood. The destruction of Parliament results in a display of fireworks which form the letter "V" (just like at the beginning with Old Bailey), which is also an inverted red-on-black "A" symbol for anarchy. Like the Old Bailey and Larkhill, Parliament was destroyed on the fifth of November. Also, Big Ben shows the start of the group of Vs at 11:05 pm, creating a giant V on the clock face. 11:05 is also the month and day format for the 5th of November. The fireworks at the end of the movie also form the letter V. It is also noted that in roman numerals, the number 5 is represented by a V symbol.

* Of all of V's victims, only Dr. Delia Surridge suffers the same fate in the film as in the original graphic novel. In the book, by contrast, Father Lilliman was poisoned, Creedy was stabbed by a workmate and Commander Prothero was driven insane but not killed, and Chancellor Sutler is shot by Mrs. Almond. Mr. and Mrs. Almond do not appear in the movie version. In the movie, Delia Surridge is painlessly poisoned.

* When Evey is being captured by a member of the commando outside Dietrich's house, if we look closer, we can see that the commando member has burnt flesh (it is visible through the commando mask's hole for the eyes), so it is obvious that he is V. But it is visible only for a second.

* Hugo Weaving appears unmasked while V is pretending to be the old man who gives the information to Inspectors Finch and Dominic. He also appears unmasked, though with his face always in shadows, while a disguised V acts as the guard/torturer of Evey while she's imprisoned. Despite rumors to contrary, he doesn't appear in the crowds in Lark Hill flashbacks or at the climax while all the Londoners watch Parliament being blown up.

* It is commonly believed that Delia is the only one that died that same way in the movie as in the novel, but if you listen closely while the bishop is being killed, when the scene cuts to the survellence van, you can hear V saying "now open your mouth and stick out your tongue" which is how he died in the novel, after eating a poisoned communion wafer.

* Just after Finch says, "...as though I could see everything that was about to happen..." there is a brief scene of Evey in a green dress, setting up a vase of Scarlet Carson roses; Finch is visible in the background. This implies that after things calm down, Evey and Finch get together.

* In the graphic novel: V does not kill Creedy; he is instead killed in a political subplot. Also, it is actually Mr. Finch who mortally wounds V, and not Mr. Creedy.

* At the beginning of the movie, the Old Bailey is blown up and the Houses of Parliament are blown up at the end. However, in the graphic novel the Houses of Parliament are blown up at the beginning with the Downing Street saved for the grand finale one year later. It is also interesting to note that the graphic novel has the grand finale on the 10th of November instead of the 5th.

turtlex
11-05-2010, 08:30 AM
Happy November 5th !!

Remember, Remember The Fifth of November,
The Gunpowder, Treason and Plot.
I Know Of No Reason Why The Gunpowder Treason,
Should Ever Be Forgot.

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Fawkes At Midnight,
And By Torchlight,
There Was Found,
With Long Matches and Devices,
Underground.

Remember, remember the Fifth of November,
The Gunpowder Treason and Plot,
I see no reason
Why the Gunpowder Treason
Should ever be forgot.
Guy Fawkes, Guy Fawkes, t'was his intent
To blow up the King and Parli'ment.
Three-score barrels of powder below
To prove old England's overthrow;
By God's providence he was catch'd
With a dark lantern and burning match.
Holloa boys, holloa boys, let the bells ring.
Holloa boys, holloa boys, God save the King!

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ICry4Oy
11-05-2010, 08:33 AM
I guess I need to watch this movie again. All my facebook peeps have references to it all over their posts today too. I know I watched it but I just don't remember much of anything about it. It didn't impress me too much so I will have to have another look.

fernandito
11-05-2010, 08:35 AM
I'll def be watching this tonight :D

turtlex
11-05-2010, 08:37 AM
I'll be watching tonight as well !!

One of my favorite all time movies !!

candy
11-05-2010, 11:44 AM
Pam, every year i say it. You really should come over the the UK for Bonfire night you would love it.

I am staying in tonight and may very well be watching V

But i will be out tomorrow partying it up:clap:

Ricky
11-05-2010, 05:57 PM
I've never seen V for Vendetta. ><

Brainslinger
11-05-2010, 07:39 PM
I met up with a friend and we took a walk to a park and climbed the hill to watch the fireworks.
It wasn't a bad display but I enjoyed the walk at night as much as anything. I managed to slip on the wet grass and ended up with muddy jeans too. (That actually added to the enjoyment.)

I haven't watched V for Vendetta all the way through, but I like the Graphic novel a lot.

Erin
11-05-2010, 08:08 PM
Watching V for Vendetta right now. :)

Brainslinger
11-06-2010, 09:36 AM
It's actually on tonight over here! I'm not sure if I'll watch it yet.

Spencer
11-06-2010, 08:26 PM
I love the movie too, but I wish the movie stuck closer to the graphic novel on which it is loosely based. Although I think some of the base freedom messages throughout the movie still stick with the book.

I agree. My biggest complaint is the Anarchy v. Fascism theme was dumbed down to Conservatism v. Liberalism, but very good nonetheless. It's always a joy to watch. I saw it last night.

turtlex
11-08-2010, 03:32 AM
Pam, every year i say it. You really should come over the the UK for Bonfire night you would love it.

I am staying in tonight and may very well be watching V

But i will be out tomorrow partying it up:clap:

Candy!! :wub: this is a dream of mine ... to actually experience Guy Fawkes Night in the UK.
Who knows, right? Someday ?!?

I watch V for Vendetta every Nov 5th. It's sort of a tradition for me. I love the movie.

klio
11-08-2010, 05:09 AM
great film! I have to get a book somehow...

turtlex
11-08-2010, 05:22 AM
Though I absolutely love the Graphic Novel, and I absolutely love the Movie - they're very different.

fernandito
11-10-2010, 06:33 AM
"All you have are your knives, and fancy karate gimmicks. We have guns."
"No, what you have are bullets and the hope that when your guns are empty I'm no longer standing."

candy
11-05-2011, 09:47 AM
Remember, remember the fifth of November
The gunpowder treason and plot.
I know of no reason why the gunpowder treason
Should ever be forgot.

Remember, remember, the fifth of November,
The gunpowder treason and plot.
A stick or a stake for King James' sake
Will you please to give us a fagot
If you can't give us one, we'll take two;
The better for us and the worse for you!