Stephen King Proofs

[Bev Vincent]

I asked Scribner if they would be doing electronic galleys for the e-book and was told that they would not be doing any. I seriously doubt they'll be doing print galleys for an e-book, but I could be wrong.

[Lilja]

No, I was hoping for electronical once. But I didn't really think they would.

Lilja

[jhanic]

I'd be really surprised if they did something like that.

John

[mae]

So, Bev, any first impressions yet? :)

[Bev Vincent]

Of 11/22/63? oh, yeah. I'm 230 pages in and the book goes to a place and in a direction I never anticipated. Awesome--long-time fans are going to love this. The rules of the doorway are interesting, to say the least.

[Merlin1958]

Of 11/22/63? oh, yeah. I'm 230 pages in and the book goes to a place and in a direction I never anticipated. Awesome--long-time fans are going to love this. The rules of the doorway are interesting, to say the least.

Oh you big tease!!!! You been taking lessons from Randall Flagg??? LOL

[jhanic]

Added It: 25th Anniversary edition proof to listing.

John

[biomieg]

FYI: Jerome has created a new 'Wiki' dedicated to SK Manuscripts, Proofs and ARCs. Much like ShannonsMovies is doing with the Catalog of King's short works, I will be editing and maintaining the Proofs Catalog from now on. I would like to acknowledge Carlosdetweiller, Jhanic and Mr. Rabbit Trick for allowing me to use their photos in addition to my own. Without their help this new Catalog would not have been possible.

As you will see I will not be creating separate entries for every variation - instead, all known and confirmed variations ('states', i.e. manuscripts, proofs, ARCs, US and UK) will be listed under the book's title.

Additions and corrections are always welcome, as are better pictures if you have them.

[Randall Flagg]

Awesome task to take on. Thanks so much to you, Carlosdetweiller, Jhanic. Mr. Rabbit Trick and others who will help make this a reality.

EDIT:
I suppose I should also thank biomeg:)

[Ben Staad]

Awesome task to take on. Thanks so much to you, Carlosdetweiller, Jhanic. Mr. Rabbit Trick and others who will help make this a reality.

I agree. The work everyone is doing to add to the catalog is really fantastic. For me the catalog is an outstanding resource that has no peer anywhere on the web. :thumbsup:

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Has anyone heard anything about review copies of Mile 81?

Lilja


I asked Scribner if they would be doing electronic galleys for the e-book and was told that they would not be doing any. I seriously doubt they'll be doing print galleys for an e-book, but I could be wrong.


No, I was hoping for electronical once. But I didn't really think they would.

Lilja


I'd be really surprised if they did something like that.

John

Well it looks like they did produce "pre-release" copies for this electronic book. The "prize draw" proves it.

[herbertwest]

Wonder if there is anything that is different from the copies that will go on sale the 1st of september

[TwistedNadine]

Awesome task to take on. Thanks so much to you, Carlosdetweiller, Jhanic. Mr. Rabbit Trick and others who will help make this a reality.

I agree. The work everyone is doing to add to the catalog is really fantastic. For me the catalog is an outstanding resource that has no peer anywhere on the web. :thumbsup:

Agreed! Thank you all!

[Patrick]

FYI: Jerome has created a new 'Wiki' dedicated to SK Manuscripts, Proofs and ARCs. Much like ShannonsMovies is doing with the Catalog of King's short works, I will be editing and maintaining the Proofs Catalog from now on. I would like to acknowledge Carlosdetweiller, Jhanic and Mr. Rabbit Trick for allowing me to use their photos in addition to my own. Without their help this new Catalog would not have been possible.

As you will see I will not be creating separate entries for every variation - instead, all known and confirmed variations ('states', i.e. manuscripts, proofs, ARCs, US and UK) will be listed under the book's title.

Additions and corrections are always welcome, as are better pictures if you have them.

You guys are awesome. Thank you so much.

[jhanic]

I've gotten word that Hodder & Stoughton is starting to track their proofs by the number. If one of their numbered proofs shows up in the secondary market (eBay, etc.) before the book is published, the reviewer who received that book is stricken from their list. They won't get any further advance mailings.

John

[Ari_Racing]

I still didn't receive mine, hope it shows up any minute now. :)

[sgc1999]

steeeerike one!!! :)

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

They say the same thing every time they send out King proofs. There is no chance of Hodder striking any of the major UK newspapers off their list. They need the publicity for all their books, not just King.

[herbertwest]

I still didn't receive mine, hope it shows up any minute now. :)

Same here!

@Jhanic : if i remember well, it was already the case with FDNS... but this time, i had to sign a document saying that i wont review anything or reveal anything prior to publication

[jhanic]

That's why, when I get my copy, I won't be divulging the number. No use taking chances!

John

[herbertwest]

Yeah, that would be stupid to kill your chances for next book via your provider !

[herbertwest]

Recieved my UK proof of 63 :-)

[jhanic]

Pics?

John

[Ari_Racing]

I'm afraid that pics might not be available since we had to sign a contract to be able to receive the book and there are some restrictions on what is allowed. I received a call that the mail left a package in my house today, so maybe it's the book. I'll know later tonight.

[jhanic]

I understand.

John

[herbertwest]

Like Ari said. I'll be happy to put a picture after the publication though

My copy is numbered, although at first i thought it was a date... but na, it can't be a date ;-)

[Lilja]

Head over to my site for pictures of the galley. I got permission to publish them as well as how many copies there are.

Lilja

[Randall Flagg]

Thanks Lilja!!

[jhanic]

Thanks, Lilja. The listing in the first post has been updated.

John

[herbertwest]

Head over to my site for pictures of the galley. I got permission to publish them as well as how many copies there are.

Lilja


So that explains that weird number...

[jhanic]

What weird number?

John

[jhanic]

Here's an article from the UK Guardian about the sale of proofs before the publication of the book:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/booksblog/2011/sep/21/proofs-advance-reading-copy-trade

I got an email from my UK contact that he had to sign an agreement that he would "not sell or even mention" that he received it.

John

[Ari_Racing]

Actually the agreement I had to sign says I can't publish anything about the plot with the exception of the blurb on the back, and that I cannot sell it.

I had permission to publish a pic of it (I asked first, of course).

[jhanic]

My newest, the UK proof of 11.22.63, front:

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr60/johnhanic/UK112263prooffront.jpg

And the back:

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr60/johnhanic/UK112263proofback.jpg

Interestingly, this is numbered with a number that indicates many more than 70 (which Lilja posted) were published. Because H&S has indicated they will take measures against people selling these before the release of the book, I'm not disclosing the number.

Also, each page of this proof is overprinted with a statement "Embargoed Hodder & Stoughton". I've never seen this before.

John

[Ari_Racing]

The letter that came with SOS UK Proof also had the Embargoed phrase if I'm not wrong.

[jhanic]

I didn't get the letter.

I've also added a question mark in the first post as to the number of copies. I'm sure this will come out eventually.

John

[jhanic]

It appears that there may be two states of the UK 11.22.63 proof, one with the "Embargoed" statement on every page and one without. The one without the statement appears to have a different numbering system written on the title page, also.

I'm changing the description in the first post to indicate this.

John

[carlosdetweiller]

Interesting observations. Congratulations, John!

[herbertwest]

It appears that there may be two states of the UK 11.22.63 proof, one with the "Embargoed" statement on every page and one without. The one without the statement appears to have a different numbering system written on the title page, also.

I'm changing the description in the first post to indicate this.

John

I dont remember reading that/ I'll check this week end

[herbertwest]

It appears that there may be two states of the UK 11.22.63 proof, one with the "Embargoed" statement on every page and one without. The one without the statement appears to have a different numbering system written on the title page, also.

I'm changing the description in the first post to indicate this.

John

The only indication of the embargoed thing is, for my copy, on the title page : "This is an exclusive early reading copy embargoed until 8 november 2011, and numbered for each specific recipient"

[jhanic]

Here's part of a page in my UK 11.22.63 proof:

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr60/johnhanic/UK112263proofpage.jpg

I didn't want to open the proof too widely because I was worried about breaking the spine, so this is the best I could do with my scanner.

John

[herbertwest]

After checking again, no there arent such a thing in my copy.
Arent you "scared" to "ruin" your source? It seems that embargoed copy are rarer..

[jhanic]

I don't think just posting the page should endanger my source. I'm sure there are other copies out there somewhere. I doubt it's one-of-a-kind.

John

[herbertwest]

Probably not one of a kind, but probably "rarer" than the normal one
Anyway, congratulations !

[jhanic]

I don't think we'll really know just how scarce either version is until after the embargo.

John

[wizardsrainbow]

I know this thread is about proofs but what do you think interest/pricing might be for...

IT early manuscript copy, 3 spiral bound volumes with handwritten corrections/notes to self in margin by King (corrections initialed by King).

[jhanic]

Is it a photocopy or the real manuscript?

John

[biomieg]

I know this thread is about proofs but what do you think interest/pricing might be for...

IT early manuscript copy, 3 spiral bound volumes with handwritten corrections/notes to self in margin by King (corrections initialed by King).

Did anyone here get it? I noticed on the Betts site that it's gone already.

[jhanic]

I just assumed Bob got it.

John

[carlosdetweiller]

I just assumed Bob got it.


Nope. Not me.

[jhanic]

I wonder who grabbed it then.

John

[Nerak]

oooo David.........

[olverts]

Just recently started to collect UK Proofs so i don´t know that much about them.
So my question is which are the ten most scarce UK Proofs ?

Thanks in advance

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

The first 5 are the most expensive. Just the same as the first 5 US ones.

[jhanic]

Is there such a thing as a proof for the UK Carrie? I've never even heard of one.

I agree with RT, though. Those are the toughest.

John

[carlosdetweiller]

Is there such a thing as a proof for the UK Carrie? I've never even heard of one.


Yes. I had contact with a now deceased collector who said she purchased the first five King books in proof form at an auction in London years ago. The consignor was the wife of the head of NEL or something like that. I have no reason to doubt her. She was very good friends with Gerald Winters and I am told the books are currently in his collection.

[The Library Policeman]

Is there such a thing as a proof for the UK Carrie? I've never even heard of one.


Yes. I had contact with a now deceased collector who said she purchased the first five King books in proof form at an auction in London years ago. The consignor was the wife of the head of NEL or something like that. I have no reason to doubt her. She was very good friends with Gerald Winters and I am told the books are currently in his collection.

Do you think you'll ever own the UK Carrie proof, Bob? I imagine you hope to one day.

[carlosdetweiller]

Do you think you'll ever own the UK Carrie proof, Bob? I imagine you hope to one day.

I hope to....yes. Do I think I will? No. Heck, I haven't even gotten a proof of 11/22/63 yet!

[The Library Policeman]

Do you think you'll ever own the UK Carrie proof, Bob? I imagine you hope to one day.

I hope to....yes. Do I think I will? No. Heck, I haven't even gotten a proof of 11/22/63 yet!

Lol. All good things come to those who wait.

[biomieg]

Yes, Mr. Winters is supposed to own them (at least that's what he told me). I believe he has a spectacular collection but he has chosen not to 'share' it with others, at least not in the public domain. No pics either. But apparently, he does have some really unique stuff.

[biomieg]

Just recently started to collect UK Proofs so i don´t know that much about them.
So my question is which are the ten most scarce UK Proofs ?

Thanks in advance

The NEL proofs are the most scarce, no doubt. Other scarce UK proofs:

Dead Zone yellow cover
Different Seasons gray decorative cover
Eyes of the Dragon white cover
Thinner blue cover
Gunslinger tan cover Sphere
Four Past Midnight blue cover unbound manuscript
The Uncut Stand full proof red cover
Needful Things blue spiral binding
Green Mile 2: The Mouse on the Mile white cover
Bag of Bones pale green cover
Bag of Bones gray cover
Hearts in Atlantis Light blue cover

[olverts]

Thanks for the help !
I actually have the Eyes of the Dragon proof on it´s way to me :)

[Ari_Racing]

Yes. I had contact with a now deceased collector who said she purchased the first five King books in proof form at an auction in London years ago. The consignor was the wife of the head of NEL or something like that. I have no reason to doubt her. She was very good friends with Gerald Winters and I am told the books are currently in his collection.

Was she Japanese?

[Ari_Racing]

Yes. I had contact with a now deceased collector who said she purchased the first five King books in proof form at an auction in London years ago. The consignor was the wife of the head of NEL or something like that. I have no reason to doubt her. She was very good friends with Gerald Winters and I am told the books are currently in his collection.

Was she Japanese?

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Yes.

[wizardsrainbow]

Yes, Mr. Winters is supposed to own them (at least that's what he told me). I believe he has a spectacular collection but he has chosen not to 'share' it with others, at least not in the public domain. No pics either. But apparently, he does have some really unique stuff.

Right, Gerald does not like to put his collection on exhibit. He told me that as well.

[Brice]

I'm not criticizing at all here(I don't even think I knew of him before these posts), but it does seem odd to me to collect and not want to show it off a little.

[George at C-Springs]

Complete set of The Green Mile proofs just came up on eBay, one signed & inscribed. Pricey BIN, as expected, but low starting bid.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Green-Mile-Set-6-Proof-Books-Signed-Stephen-King-Agent-Ralph-Vicinanza-/260873230999?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item3cbd419a97

[biomieg]

I would pay $2,500 for the set if I could afford it. Full sets are super scarce and this one has great associational value as well! Very nice! I hope someone here goes for it.

[jhanic]

I just can't afford $2500 for this, though I'd like it. Good luck to anyone who gets it!

John

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Lettered Copy and Proof of "Whispers" on ABE...

"This is one of twenty copies of the King Whispers that we prepared as advance-review state before I went to Army Summer Camp. Stuart David Schiff.".

http://pictures.abebooks.com/11044/5941173572.jpg

http://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=5941173572&searchurl=an%3Dstephen%2Bking%26bi%3D0%26bx%3Doff% 26ds%3D30%26recentlyadded%3D2day%26sortby%3D1%26st s%3Dt%26x%3D81%26y%3D4

[jhanic]

That's not really a proof--it's an F&G. I have one. The price seems a bit high, too, but not out-of-range.

John

[jhanic]

It appears there are two different states of the UK proof of King's 11.22.63. Both are numbered but have very different numbering schemes. One has the statement "Embargoed/Hodder & Stoughton" on every page and the other doesn't. The covers are identical. Here are the two pages:

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr60/johnhanic/UK112263proofpage-1.jpg

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr60/johnhanic/UK112263proofpage.jpg

I apologize for the lousy scans, but I don't want to take the chance of harming the spine by opening them too widely.

I just got the first of these. I also got a copy of the Publisher's letter, but I'm not posting it until well after the book is published. I don't want to take any possibilities that it could disclose my contact.

John

[carlosdetweiller]

Very interesting! Good stuff.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

16 page sampler for 11.22.63. Although this is actually a promo item, the other ones are listed on the first page of this trhread.

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$(KGrHqYOKo0E6fEy4,lqBOoVQ8TPf!~~60_12.JPG

[jhanic]

I have to get one!

John

[ur2ndbiggestfan]

I ordered one from E-Bay for $8.03, including postage. The seller had 5 left.

[jhanic]

I just ordered one also. Three left.

John

[Stockerlone]

I just ordered one also. Three left.

John


Now 7 are left

http://www.ebay.de/itm/STEPHEN-KING-11-22-63-Exclusive-Sampler-New-/110762432525?pt=Fiction&hash=item19c9f4980d

[biomieg]

Only one left: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STEPHEN-KING-11-22-63-Exclusive-Sampler-New-/110762432525?pt=Fiction&hash=item19c9f4980d

[Stockerlone]

Only one left: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STEPHEN-KING-11-22-63-Exclusive-Sampler-New-/110762432525?pt=Fiction&hash=item19c9f4980d

ZERO left :cool_002:

[Brice]

I got one too. :)

[Ari_Racing]

I got too late :(

[Ari_Racing]

More available! Just purchased!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-11-22-63-Exclusive-Sampler-New-/110762521605?pt=Fiction&hash=item19c9f5f405#ht_1179wt_1270

[olverts]

here´s more http://www.ebay.com/itm/110762521605?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

She has dozens for sale. Keep checking back for more.

She has already shipped mine. I was surprised that she had them in stock before the release of the book.

[carlosdetweiller]

I assume the sellers are getting them free from their local Waterstone's. Walk in, grab a large handful, go home and list them on eBay at $3 or so each. We Americans snap them up like crazy.....me included.

[Tito_Villa]

I grabbed loads today, will probably bring them to the Boston signing!

[jhanic]

Mr. RT, I'm not really surprised. These are usually issued as promotional items, and what good is a promotional item if it's not issued early?

John

[herbertwest]

16 page sampler for 11.22.63. Although this is actually a promo item, the other ones are listed on the first page of this trhread.

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$(KGrHqYOKo0E6fEy4,lqBOoVQ8TPf!~~60_12.JPG

From Waterstones apparently. Will ask my gf's parents to check if they can get any for me :-)

[jhanic]

I know I've listed the previous sampler pamphlets in the first listing of this thread. Should I include this one too?

John

[shnnrc01]

my wife got a bunch of them of them for me today.shes at work so i dont know how many she got.but she took all that was there!!

[shnnrc01]

john,i think the previous samplers have nowhere near the print count. i'd consider this more of a promo than a "proof/arc sampler"? thoughts??

[jhanic]

I'd tend to agree. The sampler for Under the Dome, for example, is pretty scarce. This one seems to be a lot more plentiful.

John

[shnnrc01]

ok guys after my friends at home here got 1 each i've got 2 left. i suppose the easiest way is the 1st two people to respond here who need and cant get one, can have 1 each. free of charge and i'll ship for free as well ok,my dime!!

[shnnrc01]

Mr.RT broke the news by posting the front page pic,this is the back:
11.22.63 H+S Promo Sampler
http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/6966/20111022212247.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/839/20111022212247.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

[shnnrc01]

11.22.63 H+S Promo Sampler: page 2+3
http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/763/20111022212415.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/830/20111022212415.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

[The Library Policeman]

ok guys after my friends at home here got 1 each i've got 2 left. i suppose the easiest way is the 1st two people to respond here who need and cant get one, can have 1 each. free of charge and i'll ship for free as well ok,my dime!!

I'd like one if you still have it, Barry.

[Patrick]

I'd love to have one, if anyone has a spare.

[Tito_Villa]

Patrick PM me your address!

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Just popped into my local waterstones and there are still bundles of the UK Sampler for 11.22.63

There must be hundreds of thousands of these lying about. There are hundreds of Waterstones shops in the UK alone. If each gets 100 copies...

[Brice]

The guy i got one from on ebay has more, but it seems he's nearly doubled the price.

[Nerak]

Barry, did you keep one for me?!?!?!

[Tito_Villa]

Karen i can bring a sampler for you to the Boston event if you like?

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

I have a spare dozen.

[shnnrc01]

oh,karen!! i forgot... psych!!

[Lilja]

If anyone has one left I'm interested.

Lilja

[herbertwest]

I should be getting at least one, probably a few from my gf's parents

[The Library Policeman]

If anyone has one left I'm interested.

Lilja

Lilja, pm me your details and I'll send you one. Barry kindly sent one to me and I managed to pick up a few extra. Mr. RT is correct, there appear to be THOUSANDS of these floating about in the UK.

[Merlin1958]

If anyone has one left I'm interested.

Lilja

Lilja, pm me your details and I'll send you one. Barry kindly sent one to me and I managed to pick up a few extra. Mr. RT is correct, there appear to be THOUSANDS of these floating about in the UK.

I would absolutely LOVE one as well!!!!


(Crosses fingers in hope!!!)

[The Library Policeman]

If anyone has one left I'm interested.

Lilja

Lilja, pm me your details and I'll send you one. Barry kindly sent one to me and I managed to pick up a few extra. Mr. RT is correct, there appear to be THOUSANDS of these floating about in the UK.

I would absolutely LOVE one as well!!!!


(Crosses fingers in hope!!!)

Be glad to send you one my friend. Drop me a pm with your details and I'll mail it Monday.

[Shannon]

May ... I ... have one? I'd greatly appreciate it.

[The Library Policeman]

May ... I ... have one? I'd greatly appreciate it.

Of course Shannon. Send me your details. Happy to help.

[The Library Policeman]

That's the 3 extra ones gone folks.

"If yer no fast yer last", as they say in Scottish Scotland.

[Patrick]

Patrick PM me your address!
Oh hey, just saw this. Will do it now, Tom. Thanks!

[herbertwest]

Got 4 of them.

[Sir_Boomme]

If anyone has one cheap... I'd like one - kind of been on a hiatus lately... and breaking from buying expensive stuff... but I'd splurge for a cheap copy here.... :)

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

You all will be able to get a copy from the site co-owner next week.

[gsvec]

Late to the party as usual, but if there are still any spares . . . ?

[Patrick]

You all will be able to get a copy from the site co-owner next week.
Sounds like Christmas is coming early this year!

[herbertwest]

Still no "the wind through the keyhole" proof? They should start appearing... soon, no?

[Bev Vincent]

I would be surprised to see one before the end of December. They won't want to step on 11/22/63.

[Merlin1958]

I would be surprised to see one before the end of December. They won't want to step on 11/22/63.

Well, that makes a lot of sense!!! Thanks, Bev!!!

[jhanic]

I deleted the reference to the US Skeleton Crew proof with the olive green cover. Until I hear from someone who actually has one, it's a myth.

John

[carlosdetweiller]

I bought this proof/ARC of MAN WITH A PAN thinking it would probably contain just more reprints of the recipes "Lunchtime Gloop" or "Basic Bread." I was pleasantly surprised to find an original four page essay titled "On Cooking" written especially for this book along with a recipe for "Pretty Good Cake." The book was published this year by Algonquin Books.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/carlosdetweiller/manwithapanproof.jpg

[CurtSeattle]

I'm not planning on selling, but i'd like to know what it's worth. 11/22/63 UK Hodder Proof without EMBARGO on every page. Evidently only 70 exist and not sure how many are in unread new condition.

Also Blockade Billy Proof. I understand this was super rare too.

Not planning on selling either one, but would like to know for my records.

thx!!

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Hard to tell. Proofs sell for huge sums the year they are released, and then later the market cools and they can be bought for a lot less.

[carlosdetweiller]

As Alan said the selling price will go down with time. Personally I think that the recent selling prices for the copies with the embargo statement are very inflated. I am partially responsible for that as I have been the runner-up bidder on the last two that were auctioned. They seem to be coming out of the woodwork more frequently now and I think prices will most surely come down. Condition is also a very important factor in pricing proofs.

As for your BILLY BLOCKADE proof: There are two states, pictorial vs. non-pictorial wrappers. Non-pictorial version had only 16 copies with three getting messed-up somehow, leaving 13 nice copies. Pictorial version had about 60 copies done so it goes for much, much less. Which version do you have?

[herbertwest]

I didnt know about the 2 versions of the CD Blockade Billy proof. I only knew about the "white" one (basic proof, without any cover) and the covered one.

[jhanic]

The "regular" proof:

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr60/johnhanic/US_Proofs/BlockadeBillyprooffront.jpg

The white proof:

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr60/johnhanic/US_Proofs/BlockadeBillywhiteprooffront.jpg

John

[CurtSeattle]

I just went upstairs and took some pics with my phone....here are the two proofs...

Blockade Billy Proof (looks like I have the 60 or so copy version).
http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/9512/imag0519og.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/839/imag0519og.jpg/)

11/22/63 NON Embargo Proof (doesn't have a HUGE watermark on every page and limited to 70 or less I believe):
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/645/112263proofback.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/834/112263proofback.jpg/)
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3317/imag0518y.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/26/imag0518y.jpg/)

A couple of shelves on one of my bookcases...I noticed I need to move some Joe Hill stuff to his bookcase (that's the #5 Ghost Key out of 500 only if anyone needs #5 and collects the Keys and has another to even things up)...
http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/3171/imag0521i.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/585/imag0521i.jpg/)

Still would like a ballpark price from anyone on the two proofs. Just so I can file it in my head for when I need to unload random things for cash in an emergency to buy a kidney or whatever. :) Really don't see selling them though as they were gifts from the publishers for whatever reason and you "can't look a gift horse in the mouth" and all that as I'm sure you all are aware. I tried it once and man was that horse pissed. Snorting and stomping....I asked why the long face and he didn't seem to like that either. Sigh...just can't please some people...or horses in this case.

Edit: I see you posted the two Billy covers while I was taking pics ...haha....def the one with the cover image is what I have.

Edit edit: Looking into the future, I see comments giving me values (future posts I can now see)...thanks everyone!!

[Stockerlone]

Forget to post it here...

I had always thought that I have all the German Leseexemplar - ARC PROOF books...

It is the first time ever i've seen this book. :rock: :nana: :dance:
There probably are not very much of them.

Stephen King - Das Leben und das Schreiben - On writing - Leseexemplar/Musterexemplar ARC
Publisher Ullstein - metallic coverhttps://fotoalbum.web.de/gast/stockerlone/Stephen_King_and_Friends/printImage?imageId=167603658&imageType=image

Looked in the German SK Forum,
think my ´Das Leben und Schreiben´ Leseexemplar is so far the only known copy.:emot-roflolmao:

[carlosdetweiller]

Still would like a ballpark price from anyone on the two proofs.

$100 - $150 on the BLOCKADE BILLY proof with pictorial cover.

$500 - $600 on the UK 11.22.63 proof.

Just guesses, though.

[jhanic]

After the Blockade Billy pictorial proofs came out, they sold for about that range. I haven't seen any for sale for quite a while now. I'll go along with Carlos on his estimates.

John

[olverts]

Last one i remember was a year ago and sold for $200 on ebay ( but only one bidder )
Got mine from Rocky Woods collection for $125

[Ben Mears]

Condition is also a very important factor in pricing proofs.

Bob,

What would you estimate for the Scribner 11/22/63 arc that's maybe in 7/10 condition?

[carlosdetweiller]

What would you estimate for the Scribner 11/22/63 arc that's maybe in 7/10 condition?

Good question and I would be interested in opinions of others. There haven't been many showing up. I'd guess around $400. Much more if in very fine condition. Pictures would help.

[ur2ndbiggestfan]

What would a white cover BLOCKADE BILLY proof go for? I'd like to buy one some day.

[olverts]

I think Betts sold a copy for $1100 or something like that :)

Just got a copy of the Illustrated Salem´s Lot Proof ( Been looking for one over a year )

Is this a scarce proof or have i just been unlucky ?

[biomieg]

I think it's pretty scarce.

[mistercrowley]

Is there a site that has estimates of each King proof?

[biomieg]

Price estimates, you mean? No, there isn't. Proof prices are all over the place but we can usually come up with a good guesstimate, based on our collective experience and tracking of proof sales over the years. The closest thing to a King proof inventory on the web is actually this thread (and the Catalog section that I'm working on).

[mistercrowley]

If I wanted to start collecting proofs what do you think is a good place to start?

[biomieg]

There are a bunch of proofs that are quite common (common being a relative thing, they still have very small print runs compared to the actual trade editions of the books, but they are easy to find), for example: Rose Madder, Hearts In Atlantis, Bag of Bones, On Writing. You should be able to find copies on eBay and ABE Books pretty much anytime. If you're really interested in proofs I would advise you to read this entire thread because there's a LOT of information here (and the terminology used for proofs can be a bit confusing, 'proof' is really just one of many names for various 'pre-publication' states of a book).

[mistercrowley]

Thanks!

[jhanic]

To add what Michaël said, don't forget to check out the first post in this thread. I try to keep the listing of EVERY King proof/ARC done in the US and UK listed there, along with whatever ancillary information I can verify. I've purposely avoided every trying to list the values of the proofs because, as he said, the prices are all over the map. A lot depends on condition, too. A proof that has been used as the publisher intended (by a reviewer) is usually pretty beat up and is worth a small fraction of the same proof in mint/fine condition.

John

[mistercrowley]

Ok what am I looking at price wise for Bag of Bones UK proof and Rose Madder US proof?

[jhanic]

The Rose Madder US proof should be about $25 or so. The UK Bag of Bones proof with the holographic cover should go in the $100 range. The other two UK Bag of Bones proofs (light green and grey) are considerably more expensive.

John

<Edit> You should make sure the UK Bag of Bones proof includes the slipcase. It's virtually worthless without it.

John

[mistercrowley]

Thanks Jhanic. Which Bag of Bones version comes with the slipcase?

[jhanic]

Both the one with the holographic cover and probably the grey one. See:

http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showwiki.php?title=King+Manuscripts+Proofs+and+ARC s:Bag+of+Bones

John

[Shannon]

Victor, two things:

1) Check out the biomieg extravaganza for info on proofs and ARCs: http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/forumdisplay.php?188-King-Manuscripts-Proofs-and-ARC-s

b) Proofs = Devil.

[biomieg]

I know for sure that both the gray and holographic UK BoB proofs have a slipcase (at least my copies do). They're for sale, by the way.

[jhanic]

But it could be the light green one that also has the slipcase, according to this site:

http://www.redeem.freeserve.co.uk/Kingbookpages/BagOfBones.htm

I don't know which is correct. (My grey one also came with a slipcase.)

John

[carlosdetweiller]

Just my experience:

Every holographic cover variety that I have seen has had a slipcase.

About half of the grey cover variety have had slipcases.

None of the green cover variety have had slipcases.

[olverts]

Is it the same slipcase for the holographic and the grey proof ?

[jhanic]

As far as I can see, yes. I haven't been able to distinguish between them.

John

[olverts]

This is just a thought , i´ve seen copies of the holographic proof for sale without a slipcase.
Maybe some people bought a second copy of the holographic proof to have a slipcase for their grey or green proof ?
And then selling the holographic proof without a slipcase.

I know that crossed my mind :)

[Ben Mears]

What would you estimate for the Scribner 11/22/63 arc that's maybe in 7/10 condition?

Good question... Pictures would help.

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC_0132.JPG
http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC_0140.JPG
http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC_0137.JPG
http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC_0135.JPG
http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC_0139.JPG
http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC_0133.JPG

[carlosdetweiller]

Looks pretty nice. Are you looking to sell it?

[Ben Mears]

Looks pretty nice. Are you looking to sell it?

Not sure yet. Just trying to get a realistic idea of its value.

[ur2ndbiggestfan]

I'll give you $112 and 263 cents for it, cover price.

[Patrick]

I'll give you $112 and 263 cents for it, cover price.

:lol: Clever boy.

[Stockerlone]

All German ´Leseexemplar´ books:

Der Talisman - hc -Hoffmann & Campe ( marginal smaler as the normal hc)
Brennen muss Salem - sc -Zsolnay
Desperation / Regulator -sc -Heyne (double flipover book)
Das Mädchen -hc -Schneekluth (black cover)
Das Mädchen -hc -Schneekluth (white cover)
Das Schwarze Haus -hc -Heyne (transparent cover)
Das Leben und das schreiben -hc -Ullstein (Musterexemplar)
ES -hc -Edition Phantasia
Albträume - Nightmares and Dreamscapes -hc - Hoffmann & Campe (with sticker)
Friedhof der Kuscheltiere -hc -Hoffmann & Campe (with sticker)

[biomieg]

I almost finished the Proofs section in the Catalog subforum. It's as complete as I can currently get it but please feel free to PM me or post in specific proof discussion threads if there's something obvious missing or incorrect. I used John's 'Master Proof List' as my guideline and I'm sure there are all kinds of (true) manuscripts and other unbound states missing but one has to wonder if these need to be included.

The basic information I included is: publisher, country, year of publication, state/type, a brief description of what it looks like, print run (mostly unknown), and in a few cases some additional comments. Is there anything else that needs to be addressed?

[Randall Flagg]

Hopefully we can get images for the entries that are missing them. Great job setting it up-THANKS!

[biomieg]

Yeah, I'm working on that as we speak - I have the pictures but decided I would first add the last entries (yesterday) and then add the pictures today. And it was my pleasure to give something back to the group! I couldn't have done it without the help of several other members who allowed me to use their photos/scans.

[Patrick]

Great job, Michaël! Thank you for putting out this effort for everyone's benefit.

[jhanic]

I added another state of The Tommyknockers manuscript proof. It consists of two volumes with a flat binding. Volume 1 has pages 1-507 and volume 2 has 508-917. There is no BOMC notation on the covers.

Thanks, Olverts!

John

[Randall Flagg]

biomeg, are you going to add this to the proof listing?

[olverts]

Here´s a few pictures of the other state of The Tommyknockers manuscript proof

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc519/olvertshannes/King%20Collection/TOMMYKNOCKERSMANUSCRIPT1.jpg

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc519/olvertshannes/King%20Collection/TOMMYKNOCKERSMANUSCRIPT3.jpg

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc519/olvertshannes/King%20Collection/TOMMYKNOCKERSMANUSCRIPT2.jpg

[biomieg]

1) If Hannes will let me use his photos I'll add it to the Catalog (if he doesn't I'll add it anyway, but without photos).
2) I think I forgot to add the SIX STORIES Roman numeraled proof. Does anyone have a picture of it (preferably also of the limitation page with the Roman numeral)?
3) I'm planning to add John's scans of the publisher's letters for some proofs/ARCs to their respective entries as well. If anyone has any scans of publisher's letters and limitation pages (of numbered proofs) and is allowing me to use them, please shoot me a PM!

Thanks, all!

[olverts]

You can use my pictures Michaël :)
If you want i can try to take some better ones ?

I forgot to say it to you earlier but you´re doing an amazing job with the catalog !!!
Thank you .

[biomieg]

No this is okay, I'll use the first one. Thanks!!

[carlosdetweiller]

Here´s a few pictures of the other state of The Tommyknockers manuscript proof


Is there a good story behind this acquisition? If so, I would love to hear it. Where it came from, etc.? Honestly, it looks homemade to me. Someone with a photocopy of the manuscript tried to bind the pages together? It is a very interesting item.

[olverts]

This one´s been listed at Betts for a long time .
Was listed as the 1 of 18 copies manuscript proof

I have to ask David , if it´s just homemade i guess it´s not worth what i payed for it :(

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Why would there be 18 copies of a manuscript? This looks like a plain old photocopy job to me.

[biomieg]

John's list mentions a possible 18 copies of the BOMC manuscript. According to the Betts website this other state of the manuscript is also one of 18 copies. Sounds like the various states of 'the' manuscript add up to 18 copies. I do agree it's a high number.

[carlosdetweiller]

This one´s been listed at Betts for a long time .
Was listed as the 1 of 18 copies manuscript proof

I have to ask David , if it´s just homemade i guess it´s not worth what i payed for it :(

Oh, I am not saying it is homemade. It just looks so different from the BOMC submission copies that I was guessing as to what it may be.

What page does the second volume start with? In the BOMC submission copies volume II starts with page 459.

[olverts]

It starts with page 508 .

I sent an email to David to see if he could ask to seller where he got it from , or if he know anything more about it .

[olverts]

The consignee bought this manuscript proof from Stu Tinker at Betts years ago.
He was told by Stu that only 18 of these were done.

I will email Stu later today to see if he knows the story behind this proof.

[jhanic]

Edited the first post to add the US Scribner proof of The Wind Through the Keyhole.

John

[Lilja]

Any word on how many they have done?

Lilja

[jhanic]

None whatsoever. Scribner seldom discloses this information.

John

[Lilja]

OK, thanks!

Lilja

[wizardsrainbow]

I spoke directly to Kate, the woman who runs the ARC show at Scribner....I simply called the number on the publisher's letter that came with the book....she basically would not give me the time of day. I asked about the limitation...she would only say a "very limited number were sent out to reviewers."

[carlosdetweiller]

King's story "The Mangler" was published in this 1990 anthology. I stumbled across this proof the other day and don't recall ever seeing one before. A nice "oldie" to add to the collection.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/carlosdetweiller/darkvoicesproof.jpg

[jhanic]

Very, very nice, Bob! I've never seen that one either.

John

[olverts]

Very nice Bob , congratulations !

[Stockerlone]

PUBLISHER PROOF COPY STEPHEN KING THE TOMMYKNOCKERS

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190643086259

[biomieg]

I was watching that TOMMYKNOCKERS proof auction and had set up a snipe bid (which didn't come through because my max bid was topped). But I strongly suspect that there was some shill bidding going on - two buyers with 'protected' identities driving up the price? Right...

[Stockerlone]

I was watching that TOMMYKNOCKERS proof auction and had set up a snipe bid (which didn't come through because my max bid was topped). But I strongly suspect that there was some shill bidding going on - two buyers with 'protected' identities driving up the price? Right...

Strange... the otherone was cheap but again ´protected identities´.:cool_002:

PUBLISHER PROOF COPY STEPHEN KING MISERY
http://www.ebay.de/itm/190643086201?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

[biomieg]

Yes. That's one more reason why I think something wasn't right. It wouldn't surprise me to see the TOMMYKNOCKERS proof turn up for sale again.

[olverts]

Is £109,57 too much for the Tommyknockers proof ?
I haven´t seen one for sale before , it´s hopefully on it´s way to Sweden now :)

[olverts]

I was watching that TOMMYKNOCKERS proof auction and had set up a snipe bid (which didn't come through because my max bid was topped). But I strongly suspect that there was some shill bidding going on - two buyers with 'protected' identities driving up the price? Right...

Strange... the otherone was cheap but again ´protected identities´.:cool_002:

PUBLISHER PROOF COPY STEPHEN KING MISERY
http://www.ebay.de/itm/190643086201?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

I think all the writing on the cover have something to do with the low price .
The same seller sold a Misery UK proof last week for £33 (with no writing on the cover)

[biomieg]

Did you win the TOMMYKNOCKERS proof? Did you change your eBay ID to 'protected'?

It's the first I have seen for sale since I started looking for proofs.

[olverts]

I won that proof , I didn´t change my ID to protected .

I have seen these "private listings" before were all bidders' identities are protected ,
can´t understand why they do so ?

[carlosdetweiller]

Is £109,57 too much for the Tommyknockers proof ?


No, I don't think you paid too much. I think you got a good deal.

[jhanic]

There's another one currently on eBay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-THE-TOMMYKNOCKERS-UNCORRECTED-PROOF-RARE-/360430710432?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item53eb582ea0

John

[The Library Policeman]

Private auctions are quite common on ebay here in UK. Just means no one can see who's bidding except for the seller. What purpose it serves I do not know.

[biomieg]

Ahh, okay, my fault then. I assumed that the bidders themselves had set their identities to private and that's why I thought something fishy was going on (too big of a coincidence).

[olverts]

There's another one currently on eBay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-THE-TOMMYKNOCKERS-UNCORRECTED-PROOF-RARE-/360430710432?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item53eb582ea0

John

That´s a US proof , the one i got was the UK Tommyknockers proof :)

[biomieg]

Oh yeah, and I hate you Hannes! I really wanted that proof...

[herbertwest]

There's another one currently on eBay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-THE-TOMMYKNOCKERS-UNCORRECTED-PROOF-RARE-/360430710432?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item53eb582ea0

John

On this link, eBay is in bright yellow and it's killing my eyes. how come?

[olverts]

Oh yeah, and I hate you Hannes! I really wanted that proof...

But soon you will love me , remember i have a proof on it´s way with your name on it :)

[biomieg]

That is true!

(does that mean, if I change my name to Stephen King, I will get all of your proofs?)

[olverts]

You can always try :)

[jhanic]

There's another one currently on eBay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-THE-TOMMYKNOCKERS-UNCORRECTED-PROOF-RARE-/360430710432?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item53eb582ea0

John

On this link, eBay is in bright yellow and it's killing my eyes. how come?

Looks okay to me!

John

[olverts]

Here´s a proof i haven´t seen posted before

Prize Stories 1999 with King´s short introduction to the 2nd prize story ( Merry-Go-Sorry by Cary Holladay )

King was also in the Prize Jury that year .

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc519/olvertshannes/King%20Collection/PRIZEPROOF1.jpg

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc519/olvertshannes/King%20Collection/PRIZEPROOF2.jpg

[Randall Flagg]

Very nice.

[jhanic]

Another one I've never seen! Congratulations!

John

[olverts]

Thanks ,

Just noticed it´s signed by Sherman Alexie and Michael Chabon :)

[carlosdetweiller]

That's a new one to me too. I don't even have it in the trade edition state.

[wizardsrainbow]

Can any one of you BIG proof collectors confirm this:

David, my contact at Hodder tells me they are not doing proofs this time around, for TWTTK.

[carlosdetweiller]

Can any one of you BIG proof collectors confirm this:

David, my contact at Hodder tells me they are not doing proofs this time around, for TWTTK.

That's what we heard a few weeks ago. I can't recall the source though.

[Pasiuk57]

That is the truth according to my source in the UK who has always come through for me.
Sadly...

[jhanic]

I've also heard the same thing. My contact has not gotten back to me yet, though.

John

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

I can confirm... there is a sampler, just like the one for 11.22.63.

[herbertwest]

Can any one of you BIG proof collectors confirm this:

David, my contact at Hodder tells me they are not doing proofs this time around, for TWTTK.

That's what we heard a few weeks ago. I can't recall the source though.


Me for instance.

@MrRabbitTrick : also available at Waterstone?

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

@MrRabbitTrick : also available at Waterstone?

Yes.

[jhanic]

Added the Battleground proof.

John

[olverts]

Another proof i haven´t seen before

Doesn´t say proof anywhere but it got to be that right ?

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc519/olvertshannes/King%20Collection/STARMONTPROOF.jpg

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc519/olvertshannes/King%20Collection/STARMONTPROOF1.jpg

[jhanic]

Hannes, I don't think that's a proof. I have that identical book in my collection. It's one of the Starmont series about King. There were a number of them.

John

[olverts]

Maybe you´re right , i just thought it looked like a proof :)

I couldn´t find any pictures of that book online , there´s a few listings on Abe but no pictures .

[Bev Vincent]

There are a couple of pictures here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-media/product-gallery/155742070X

[Lurker]

Pretty sure this is a first, differences in covers. No number line.
Unfortunately, price tag stain on back cover.

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac54/ICONfan/MoralVoyages.jpg

[olverts]

But this one i´m sure it´s a proof :)

Best Horror of the Year volume 4 , publication date May 2012 .

With King´s The Little Green God of Agony

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc519/olvertshannes/King%20Collection/BESTHORROR4PROOF.jpg

[Randall Flagg]

Very cool.

[ur2ndbiggestfan]

I like the illustration.

[jhanic]

Nice!

John

[The Library Policeman]

Very cool, Hannes. :)

[Ari_Racing]

Nice! Congratulations!

[olverts]

Here´s what i´ve been so excited about the past two weeks :)

First:

Hearts In Atlantis Manuscript proof with black tape spine
My contact estimates approximately 20 of these were printed, strictly for in-house use at the publisher

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc519/olvertshannes/King%20Collection/ATLANTISMANUSCRIPTPROOF.jpg

[olverts]

Next one i don´t know how many were printed , but i´ve never seen one before .

Under the Dome 2nd draft 3 Volumes black tape spine

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc519/olvertshannes/King%20Collection/DOMEMANUSCRIPTPROOF.jpg

[EXPLORER]

Next one i don´t know how many were printed , but i´ve never seen one before .

Under the Dome 2nd draft 3 Volumes black tape spine

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc519/olvertshannes/King%20Collection/DOMEMANUSCRIPTPROOF.jpg
WOW.. Very Interesting..Impressive

[jhanic]

Very, very nice, Hannes! I'll be adding them to the listing in the first post.

John

[mattgreenbean]

Hans, do you keep your proofs separate from or mixed in with the hardcovers?

I'd like to find some but there's so few out there that people part with.

[biomieg]

Matt, I have a (very scarce) proof that I am willing to sell if you're interested? It's one of the three different UK Bag of Bones proofs (the gray one) that are listed in the 'master list' that John maintains in the first post of this thread.

If you're interested in the more basic and common proofs, you can find many on eBay and ABE Books.

[olverts]

Thanks John and Jim !

John i think you accidentally typed " white tape spine " instead of black in the listing in the first post :) ( Under the Dome )

[biomieg]

I forgot to congratulate you, Hannes! Impressive!

[olverts]

Thanks Michaël :)

I´m still thinking of buying one more item from the same seller that also could be added to the listing in the first post :)

[jhanic]

Fixed. Thanks for letting me know!

John

[Pasiuk57]

The Under the Dome manuscripts look great!

[ur2ndbiggestfan]

Wow Hannes, I am suitably impressed. Those are great looking proofs/manuscripts.

[Brice]

Congratulations Hannes!

John is crying right now because you have proofs that he doesn't.

Oh, and buy the other one that's not on the list or you will regret it. :)

[jhanic]

Not crying, just a bit green with envy!

John

[olverts]

Congratulations Hannes!

John is crying right now because you have proofs that he doesn't.

Oh, and buy the other one that's not on the list or you will regret it. :)

Thanks !

I really like to buy the other one but it ain´t cheap :)
I might have to sell something so i can afford it

[biomieg]

Sell me your US Danse Macabre or UK Dead Zone :)

[olverts]

Sell me your US Danse Macabre or UK Dead Zone :)

You wish :)

[olverts]

Haven´t seen this one before

Duma Key 2nd draft with white tape spine

My contact estimates approximately 20 of these were printed, strictly for in-house use at the publisher

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc519/olvertshannes/King%20Collection/DUMAKEY2NDDRAFT.jpg

[jhanic]

I've added it to the listing in the first post.

John