Knowing Darkness: Artists Inspired by Stephen King ~ Centipede Press

[Bev Vincent]

There's a very nice review of Knowing Darkness in the latest Locus magazine.

[Sam]

Wow. It made LOCUS??? I thought that magazine was science fiction oriented and didn't bother with any other genres.

[Bev Vincent]

They cover horror, too. They reviewed The Road to the Dark Tower, and they almost always review King, Straub, etc. They're covered under the blanket of Fantasy -- i.e. Dark Fantasy.

[Sam]

I did not know that. I've never subscribed to the magazine, so I only know it as a perennial favorite at the Hugo Awards.

[Bev Vincent]

I've been reading Locus for over 25 years. Never miss it. In the early days, that was where I got a lot of my Stephen King news.

[CurtSeattle]

It is HARD to display this book! I had to put it on TOP of my bookcase! lol!!
http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/1007/imag0236s.jpg (http://img641.imageshack.us/i/imag0236s.jpg/)


Kind of dangerous and I'm afraid it will fall off if there ever is an earthquake, but it's that or put it in a box in a closet (where I have my extra one I have and the Ray Bradbury one...sigh....)
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/7177/imag0233m.jpg (http://img703.imageshack.us/i/imag0233m.jpg/)

[east-tennessee]

Looks great Curt...
I took the two books out of my traycase to display it safely, also I was afraid the weight of the books would damage the case over time....

[Randall Flagg]

Nice. Which version of Dark Dreamers do you have?

[CurtSeattle]

i think mine just has the one signature page. Wasn't there two versions? I can check in a few minutes. Maybe I should take Knowing Darkness out of the traycase...hmmmm.....it is soooooooooooooooooooooo heavy

[Randall Flagg]

Catalog entry (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showwiki.php?title=Dark+Dreamers+-+S+L)


A special edition of 405 copies of DARK DREAMERS, signed by the authors, was completed in May, 1990. Due to accidental destruction of some signature sheets, three states of this limited edition were published:
Copies #1-#297 were signed by Clive Barker, Gary Brandner, Ramsey Campbell, Les Daniels, Dennis Etchison, John Farris, Charles L. Grant, James Herbert, Stephen King, Dean R. Koontz, Joe R. Lansdale, Richard Laymon, Graham Masterson, Richard Matheson, Robert R. McCammon, David Morrell, Philip Nutman, John Saul, John Skipp, Craig Spector, Peter Straub, Whitley Streiber, Stanley Wiater, Chet Williamson, J.N. Williamson, and Grahan Wilson, These copies contain two pages of signatures.
Copies #298-#350 were signed by Richard Matheson, Dennis Etchison, Stephen King, Dean R. Koontz, David Morrell, John Saul, John Farris, Gary Brandner, Richard Laymon and Stanley Wiater. These copies contain one page of signatures.
55 Copies stamped “Publisher’s Copy #__” were numbered 1-55 and were otherwise identical to copies #298-#350. These copies contain one page of signatures.

Some effort was made to collect the missing signatures as the second state has seven signatures on the title page (example below).

[CurtSeattle]

I just read that same paragraph on page 208 of my copy, but what is strange is that I have number 283 with ONLY ONE PAGE of signatures? There are 11 signatures on it ...weird!!! That seems at odds with what they stated on the explanation. Luckily, King/Koontz/others I like signed the one page in mine.

REALLY is a WELL DONE book in terms of craftsmanship.

[Randall Flagg]

The information is "fuzzy" at best, but there are copies of DD that have less than the intended number of signatures. I have copies of two versions. BTAIM, the book is a beautiful piece of craftmanship.
Edit:
The pictures in the Catalog are from my two copies.

[Pasiuk57]

I have number 216 of Dark Dreamers but it is also signed by King.

[Randall Flagg]

I believe all three states were signed by King.

[frik]

Very nice, Curt.
I've got mine standing on the floor, next to my bookcase(s).

sk

[biomieg]

My gift edition is watching over the living room:

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_fcdqdPh-_A8/TQZwkobe7GI/AAAAAAAAAo0/1RKDqbq2Q8Q/s512/billy04.JPG

[Tito_Villa]

Ditto here Biomieg!

[CurtSeattle]

You can see my main bookcase is too tall...I mean the book is too tall to sit on it! LOL!!!

I had to buy that glass one on Craigslist to be able to have the Knowing Darkness in the same room as my other books. barely fits still. hahaha!

Really is one of the best books I have ever seen. Amazingly well done I'd say even.

Plus, a great value if you buying by weight. hahaha!

[Tito_Villa]

Oh and Biomieg that bookcase looks awesome!

[biomieg]

Thanks, Tom! We recently moved to another city and bought new bookcases for the occasion. They are simple IKEA 'Billy' bookcases but I like them a lot!

(or were you talking about the contents? ;))

[Tito_Villa]

Both i have a Billy bookcase too (well i stole it off my girlfriend :lol: )

[Patrick]

:thumbsup: all the way around.

[Randall Flagg]

Man this book is huge. I'm thinking of putting it on display, but the thing is >20" tall and 12" wide. Perhaps the only larger King related S/L book is the Whitney My Pretty Pony.

[east-tennessee]

I contacted Jerad from Centipede in 8/2010 when he was having a sale on the Knowing Darkness Traycased @ $495, I asked if he had any of the Whelan Remarques left, He said one with a small crease on it...I offered him $700 for the book and remarque, he accepted $720 to cover shipping....

heres the remarque........

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/Picture_350.jpg

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/Picture_858.jpg

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/Picture_857.jpg

[east-tennessee]

Is that not the smallest Gunslinger you've ever seen?

I love It ..cant wait to get it framed/
Brian....

[thegreattim]

Wow, I love it!!

Looks awesome. Congrats.

[east-tennessee]

Thanks, i'ts quite stricking in person. the eyes and jewerly on the Dark Man is a striking GOLD COLOR.
The tiny Gunslinger following it quite detailed..

Thanks BRIAN.....

[Tito_Villa]

Very cool!

I would love an original drawing by Whelan

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Very nice Brian

Congrats

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

[carlosdetweiller]

That is one of the nicer drawings I have seen for that book. Congratulations!

[jhanic]

Very, very nice!

John

[east-tennessee]

Thanks guys, now I have several items to be framed, I'll show more pics, when that happens.....

[Randall Flagg]

Congratulations. That is a great piece. So far I've seen at least three (I own one), and Whelan did some great work.

[Ari_Racing]

Very nice! Congratulations!!

[e_taylor]

http://www.horror-mall.com/KNOWING-DARKNESS-Artist-Inspired-by-Stephen-King-2-volume-desluxe-in-traycase-p-22375.html

$425 for the traycased edition - almost 60% off retail! Says the traycase MIGHT have slight bumps, but still seems like a great deal! If only I had the extra money right now!

[Tito_Villa]

I ordered a copy direct from Jared the other day (yes i know i shouldn't have, just couldn't help myself) got a mint traycased version on the way plus 2 sets of fold out prints and a copy of 'Some of Your Blood' by Theodore Sturgeon with shipping to England for $475.

I think i got a hell of a deal, just need to wait 4/5 weeks for it to arrive by surface mail!

[WeDealInLead]

My traycased was $375 shipped to Canada. I think he really wants them gone.

[tomi_cc16]

Are they really selling the Deluxe Editions for $200 ?
http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?an=Beahm&sts=t&tn=KNOWING+DARKNESS&x=44&y=9

[Stockerlone]

Are they really selling the Deluxe Editions for $200 ?
http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?an=Beahm&sts=t&tn=KNOWING+DARKNESS&x=44&y=9

But the ´real´ delivery cost to Germany is definitly HIGHER then 20 $. Normaly arround 50$ !!!

[jhanic]

Are they really selling the Deluxe Editions for $200 ?
http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?an=Beahm&sts=t&tn=KNOWING+DARKNESS&x=44&y=9

I don't think those are the signed limited editions, but the slipcased edition. It sold (including shipping) for $210 when new. The last listing on the page is the signed limited one (or deluxe) at $1000.

John

[Bev Vincent]

I got to meet Jerad, albeit briefly, at World Horror in Austin last week.

[tomi_cc16]

Like the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVGmPD2nvXI

And the pics here:

http://www.ligotti.net/showthread.php?t=3574

[Randall Flagg]

I love it.

[Ben Mears]

You look at the scope and quality of what Centipede has done with 2 SK books and it boggles the mind that The Shining was never approved.

[Stockerlone]

It was a longer journey to find KD for a good price, reg. the delivery cost´s to Germany but 55.- INKL. delivery from UK to Germany was GREAT!!!

Parcel arrives damaged from the stupid UK bookshop and the KD inside was absolutly not wrapped :arg: - but it arrives -OK-!!!


Knowing Darkness Artists inspired by Stephen King limited slipcased

https://fotoalbum.web.de/alben/stockerlonepics/Stephen_King_and_Friends/printImage?imageId=160710775&imageType=image

https://fotoalbum.web.de/alben/stockerlonepics/Stephen_King_and_Friends/printImage?imageId=160710799&imageType=image


https://fotoalbum.web.de/gast/stockerlonepics/Stephen_King_and_Friends/printImage?imageId=160710775&imageType=image

https://fotoalbum.web.de/gast/stockerlonepics/Stephen_King_and_Friends/printImage?imageId=160710799&imageType=image

[Patrick]

Like the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVGmPD2nvXI

And the pics here:

http://www.ligotti.net/showthread.php?t=3574

Loved seeing that video. Really gives a sense of the size of the book in a way that photographs can't quite do. Also love that this guy seems to video the opening of every collectible book he receives! Awesome.


Stockerlone, congratulations!

[GaOutlaw]

Here are pages 29-32 with their respective fold-outs. Enjoy!

Jerad


Here are some more pages from the book.


Ned Dameron images.

Hi, I'm new to the site so I may have missed something, but I can't look at these. Can someone tell me why?

[Randall Flagg]

Here are pages 29-32 with their respective fold-outs. Enjoy!

Jerad


Here are some more pages from the book.


Ned Dameron images.

Hi, I'm new to the site so I may have missed something, but I can't look at these. Can someone tell me why?
Many links don't "appear" until a member has 5 posts. It helps to reduce spam.
Hang around and make a few more valid posts and you shall see.
Welcome to the site.

[GaOutlaw]

Here are pages 29-32 with their respective fold-outs. Enjoy!

Jerad


Here are some more pages from the book.




Here are pages 29-32 with their respective fold-outs. Enjoy!

Jerad


Here are some more pages from the book.


Ned Dameron images.

Hi, I'm new to the site so I may have missed something, but I can't look at these. Can someone tell me why?
Many links don't "appear" until a member has 5 posts. It helps to reduce spam.
Hang around and make a few more valid posts and you shall see.
Welcome to the site.

Thanks, I made a trade a few days ago to get a copy of this I was just hopeing to get a good look at it before for it arives.

[Shannon]

I can only speak for the dinosaur sized version, but no amount of pictures or video or comments can prepare you for it's arrival. Easily one of my very favorite King-related items.

[jhanic]

Thanks, I made a trade a few days ago to get a copy of this I was just hopeing to get a good look at it before for it arives.

Ga, did you get the "gift" edition or the deluxe edition? Either way, be sure to get some exercise before you try lifting them!

John

[Fsmdr]

Thanks, I made a trade a few days ago to get a copy of this I was just hopeing to get a good look at it before for it arives.

Ga, did you get the "gift" edition or the deluxe edition? Either way, be sure to get some exercise before you try lifting them!

John

And don't drop it on your foot!.

[Shannon]

Or your head ...

[GaOutlaw]

I'm sure it will be the gift edition. I didn't say witch one I wanted when I made the deal & he said he was going to order me a new copy stait from the publisher & ship directly to me.

[jhanic]

I'm sure it's the gift edition, then. The deluxe editions are all sold out. Still, be careful handling it so you don't hurt yourself! :P

John

[Bev Vincent]

Yep -- lift with your legs, not your back.

[pixiedark76]

I threw my back out while lifting it. Since Knowing Darkness is such a huge book, I have nowhere else to put it except on the very top of my bookshelf. When I want to look at it, I have to stand on chair go get it off the shelf. Then I I have to stand on a chair to put it back up on the shelf. I could just imagine what would happen if I fell with that heavy of a book in my hands!

[Shannon]

I attached shelving to my Knowing Darkness and used it as my Stephen King bookcase. :)

[Stockerlone]

Yes, KD is a dangerous book:scared: My KD is atop on my bookshelf, direct over my bed, and located direct over my head..... I´am thankfully that we have NO earthquakes in Germany:nana: no dropping danger !!!

[Shannon]

That's just asking for trouble, lol

[pixiedark76]

Yes, KD is a dangerous book:scared: My KD is atop on my bookshelf, direct over my bed, and located direct over my head..... I´am thankfully that we have NO earthquakes in Germany:nana: no dropping danger !!!

I could imagine the news head line "Man killed when book fell on him!' " (Actually I hope this does not happen.)

[Stockerlone]

Yes, KD is a dangerous book:scared: My KD is atop on my bookshelf, direct over my bed, and located direct over my head..... I´am thankfully that we have NO earthquakes in Germany:nana: no dropping danger !!!

I could imagine the news head line "Man killed when book fell on him!' " (Actually I hope this does not happen.)

In front of the KD, are several Stephen King Cups..Knowing Darkness + Porcelain = DOUBLE DANGER :panic:

[GaOutlaw]

Yes, KD is a dangerous book:scared: My KD is atop on my bookshelf, direct over my bed, and located direct over my head..... I´am thankfully that we have NO earthquakes in Germany:nana: no dropping danger !!!

I could imagine the news head line "Man killed when book fell on him!' " (Actually I hope this does not happen.)

I believe the headline on TMZ would read "STEPHEN KING KILLS FAN WITH ART BOOK" :P

[Randall Flagg]

King would probably prefer the headline: "Collector killed when Stephen King book fell on him!"

[Stockerlone]

To lift up the danger level, i also put on the same bookshelf, only for some days....
Zsolnay Bloodbox == extra kilos === more danger :doh:

http://fotoalbum.web.de/gast/stockerlonepics/Stephen_King_and_Friends/printImage?imageId=142848478&imageType=image

http://fotoalbum.web.de/gast/stockerlonepics/Stephen_King_and_Friends/printImage?imageId=142848500&imageType=image

[jhanic]

Just curious, did anyone order any of the set of unbound prints that Jerad was offering? I ordered the complete set of 15 signed (by the artists) prints myself.

John

[Tito_Villa]

I would have done. a great deal but i have no idea where i would put them.

[biomieg]

I contemplated going for them but in the end I didn't. I'm trying (sort of) not to spend too much money right now. I'm still paying for another acquisition and between that and saving for our trip to Southern Africa later this year, I'm only making some very low-key purchases (mostly upgrades). But who knows, if I run across a set in the future...

[carlosdetweiller]

Just curious, did anyone order any of the set of unbound prints that Jerad was offering? I ordered the complete set of 15 signed (by the artists) prints myself.

John

What are the prints of? (Improper grammar, I know.)

[mikeC]

To lift up the danger level, i also put on the same bookshelf, only for some days....
Zsolnay Bloodbox == extra kilos === more danger :doh:

http://fotoalbum.web.de/gast/stockerlonepics/Stephen_King_and_Friends/printImage?imageId=142848478&imageType=image

http://fotoalbum.web.de/gast/stockerlonepics/Stephen_King_and_Friends/printImage?imageId=142848500&imageType=image

What are those?! awesome cover, can I see more please?

[Pasiuk57]

John
I got a set!

[Stockerlone]

To lift up the danger level, i also put on the same bookshelf, only for some days....
Zsolnay Bloodbox == extra kilos === more danger :doh:

http://fotoalbum.web.de/gast/stockerlonepics/Stephen_King_and_Friends/printImage?imageId=142848478&imageType=image

http://fotoalbum.web.de/gast/stockerlonepics/Stephen_King_and_Friends/printImage?imageId=142848500&imageType=image

What are those?! awesome cover, can I see more please?

Yes, member Resident Chris have an other pic from the bloodpaited case :)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/31052804@N07/2965469156/

5 Hartcover books in an acrylic slipcased, bloodpainting. Amazing covers from Gottfried Helnwein.

Stephen King - Brennen muss Salem
Peter Straub - Wenn du wüsstest.....
Koontz - Der Schutzengel
Perutz - Der Meister des Jüngsten Tages
Poe - Der Goldkäfer

[Resident Chris]

Here is a Picture of the Covers:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3058/2909196711_1b93262466_z.jpg

[Shannon]

Holy shit, easily some of the coolest items ever. I want some I want some!

[GaOutlaw]

Got my copy of KD in the mail yesterday. Wow this book is so cool. I also got the $25 set of loose foldouts. What size frames should I bye for them? I don't know why but I love the Maximum Overdive foldout.

[mikeC]

I don't know why but I love the Maximum Overdive foldout.
That is very cool. I remember seeing awhile ago some one was selling the original art for that. Not sure if Jared was selling it or someone bought it around that time. I tried to find the link but I believe I found the info from this site:
http://www.happytoyz.com/
(weird link name, I know but it is all about MO)

[carlosdetweiller]

I don't know why but I love the Maximum Overdive foldout.
That is very cool. I remember seeing awhile ago some one was selling the original art for that. Not sure if Jared was selling it or someone bought it around that time. I tried to find the link but I believe I found the info from this site:
http://www.happytoyz.com/
(weird link name, I know but it is all about MO)

I bought that original artwork on eBay many years ago. I really like it too.

[Randall Flagg]

I don't know why but I love the Maximum Overdive foldout.
That is very cool. I remember seeing awhile ago some one was selling the original art for that. Not sure if Jared was selling it or someone bought it around that time. I tried to find the link but I believe I found the info from this site:
http://www.happytoyz.com/
(weird link name, I know but it is all about MO)

I bought that original artwork on eBay many years ago. I really like it too.
Would love to see it if you have time.

[GaOutlaw]

Here'sa pictureof my copy...

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm12/gaoutlaw77/DSCI0031.jpg

[Fsmdr]

Very Cool!.

[carlosdetweiller]

I don't know why but I love the Maximum Overdive foldout.
That is very cool. I remember seeing awhile ago some one was selling the original art for that. Not sure if Jared was selling it or someone bought it around that time. I tried to find the link but I believe I found the info from this site:
http://www.happytoyz.com/
(weird link name, I know but it is all about MO)

I bought that original artwork on eBay many years ago. I really like it too.
Would love to see it if you have time.

OK. Here it is.

I've never been really sure what this is. It was called "graphic art" when I bought it. I think it is the original artwork. There are artist notations in the margins (covered by the matting). No artist signature. The artwork is on some type of really thick (1/4") white board. I'm sure I spent more on the frame and matting than I spent on the art itself but the image is strangely appealing to me and I like it a lot. Jerad scanned it for the KNOWING DARKNESS book. Image size about 9"x18".

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/carlosdetweiller/maximumoverdrive2.jpg

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/carlosdetweiller/maximumoverdriveart1.jpg

Gallery note adhered to the rear of the art.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/carlosdetweiller/maximumoverdriveart3.jpg

[Shannon]

I love that you have so much stuff, lol. Amazing.

[Patrick]

Very cool, Bob!

[Randall Flagg]

I had Cook and his wife over to the house yesterday and had him heft the S/L book-almost strained a muscle.

Not me, but this is what it was like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVGmPD2nvXI

[Pasiuk57]

It is without a doubt the heaviest book I own....

[Dr. Dawg]

I have the gift edition, but that makes me want the S/L even more...

[Shannon]

I saw that video before I had purchased mine. I was thinking to myself ... "Wow, that sure is a big book" lol

[Cook]

Who is this in the video, is it a member of DT.org?
Just curious.

[Shannon]

That is ... judging from his screen name ... The Travelin' Librarian. :)

[The Library Policeman]

That is ... judging from his screen name ... The Travelin' Librarian. :)

Well, if he travels with that book he better travel by car!

[The Library Policeman]

Yay! I'm now a Citizen of Gilead. Gilead is the place to be!

[Merlin1958]

Yay! I'm now a Citizen of Gilead. Gilead is the place to be!

OMG, Try being a GBOL!!! Glorious Beacon of Light!!!! LOL LOL LOL

[Shannon]

lol you can only be a GBOL if you own a TMSG and a THPS!

[Stockerlone]

lol you can only be a GBOL if you own a TMSG and a THPS!

and the SFPBC Stark French Promo Bird Cage :onfire:

[Patrick]

I had Cook and his wife over to the house yesterday and had him heft the S/L book-almost strained a muscle.

Not me, but this is what it was like:
...
Very cool. Get any pics of you all?

[Randall Flagg]

Sadly no. We just discussed our project.

[Merlin1958]

Sadly no. We just discussed our project.

And that project is................................................ .......................????????????????????

[Randall Flagg]

Secret.

[Shannon]

Hey, I have a secret project too! Tell me what yours is about so I can make sure we're not working on the same thing.

:)

[Randall Flagg]

Hey, I have a secret project too! Tell me what yours is about so I can make sure we're not working on the same thing.

:)
I'm putting together a catalog of every Stephen King short work-I mean everything including the Post-Its I dug out of his garbage. So far I have 13,112 entries.....

[Tito_Villa]

Hahaha

[CRinVA]

Ah our glorious leader and tantalizing teaser of tid-bits and treasures - you know that Post Its is really just an anagram for It Stops , as in the Insanity, It Stops, here!

[Shannon]

I would love for a Stephen King Garbage Post-It.

[Merlin1958]

El Jefe's mantle of leadership wears heavily on his brow!!! Give him a break folks!!!


That should get some Rep points from "Our Leader"!!! No? LOL

[becca69]

So, Centipede has Knowing Darkness book blocks for sale. Does anyone know someone who can bind this?

[Randall Flagg]

So, Centipede has Knowing Darkness book blocks for sale. Does anyone know someone who can bind this?
What size blocks?
Wouldn't it be easier/cheaper to just buy one that has been bound?

[needfulthings]

I would love for a Stephen King Garbage Post-It.
http://imageshack.com/a/img543/47/oiqt.jpg

[becca69]

So, Centipede has Knowing Darkness book blocks for sale. Does anyone know someone who can bind this?
What size blocks?
Wouldn't it be easier/cheaper to just buy one that has been bound?

I don't know, I've never had anything custom bound. I would assume the blocks are all the same size as in the bound copies - it's the signed edition.

[jhanic]

So, Centipede has Knowing Darkness book blocks for sale. Does anyone know someone who can bind this?

Do you have a link for this?

John

[becca69]

So, Centipede has Knowing Darkness book blocks for sale. Does anyone know someone who can bind this?

Do you have a link for this?

John


It's a direct Paypal link. $50. So is it worth it??

https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_flow&SESSION=1gEgypd97hqccnBDVenHRHEqPO4IA6FeSp5bDxka_P GXsWAocD5nqNXleIW&dispatch=50a222a57771920b6a3d7b606239e4d529b525e0b 7e69bf0224adecfb0124e9b61f737ba21b081986471f9b93cf a01e00b63629be0164db1

Newsletter description:
ARTISTS INSPIRED BY STEPHEN KING SIGNED EDITION
SEWN AND GATHERED, BUT NOT CASED IN,
BOOK BLOCKS

This is the complete Stephen King art book, sewn and gathered with endpapers, the signed edition on the heavier paper, but not cased in. Perfect if you'd like to separate some and make your own prints. Or if you'd like to bind it yourself. They are just $50.
Stephen King art book: signed book blocks, $50

[Patrick]

becca, is that the correct link? It goes to a paypal checkout page, I think.

[jhanic]

I can't access it either. It keeps telling me that the cookies are blocked, and when I follow the instructions to unblock them, I still get the same message.

I think it's a pretty good deal at $50.

John

[Patrick]

I agree, it probably is a good deal. I just don't know where I'd put it!

On a related note, I love the $99 clear slipcase that I bought recently from George.

[becca69]

Try this: http://www.centipedepress.com/scratchanddents.html

It's the link to the newsletter.

[Kingfan24]

for some reason its coming up 75.. not 50

[becca69]

I just sent Jerad an email to ask about the price difference.

[Niels]

Signed is $75.... but signed by who? SK?

[ELazansky]

Signed is $75.... but signed by who? SK?

The Signed edition is signed by the artists, not King

[Ari_Racing]

Knowing Darkness has no edition signed by King. As a matter of fact, he's not really happy with the book.

[herbertwest]

Any idea why?
It shares some truly nice pieces of work.

His general idea of book collecting / collectors?

[becca69]

I still haven't heard why the price was increased. I was going to buy at $50 but not at $75 and still have to get it bound :(

[jhanic]

I also sent an email to Jerad but haven't heard anything. I also think $75 is a bit much.

John

[Br!an]

I like it at $50. At $75, not so much.

[RC65]

Knowing Darkness has no edition signed by King. As a matter of fact, he's not really happy with the book.

He must be a hard man to please then (unless it's just residual feelings from the 'SALEM'S LOT situation)...I think KNOWING DARKNESS is a gorgeous production and I frankly can't imagine how it could have been done any better.

[swintek]

Knowing Darkness has no edition signed by King. As a matter of fact, he's not really happy with the book.

He must be a hard man to please then (unless it's just residual feelings from the 'SALEM'S LOT situation)...I think KNOWING DARKNESS is a gorgeous production and I frankly can't imagine how it could have been done any better.

Yes! The SK fan & book collecting world is a better place because of it. Knowing Darkness (and, The Lovecraft art book before it) are monumental achievements on every level.

[Bev Vincent]

I gave Knowing Darkness a shout out in The Dark Tower Companion -- in many cases the artwork is reproduced in sizes larger than what appeared on dust jackets or inside books. I think it's a real treasure.

[Br!an]

The KD isn't listed anymore. He either sold them all or he pulled them.

[jhanic]

The KD isn't listed anymore. He either sold them all or he pulled them.

Makes my decision a lot easier!

John

[Br!an]

The KD isn't listed anymore. He either sold them all or he pulled them.

Makes my decision a lot easier!

John

That it does.

[stoppoker]

Hello Brice,
do you create this drawing? You got talent! Is it your profession?


Yeah, it's my favorite too. :D Really though I've loved all of the ones I've seen.

And back to the question of framing...I've never had any art worthy of framing before, but I went to the nearest framer about a week ago just to kinda' look at options. Maybe it's overkill I don't know, but I think I want this museum glass I've heard mentioned here along with a really nice frame. I'll probably have to go out of town to have it done though. I may have to save up for it.

And thanks everyone!

I couldn't be happier. The book, the Whelan, everything is just amazing.

[Papaseraphim]

My daughters gave a me a copy of Knowing Darkness for Christmas (after I dropped a few hints...) and I love it. The only artbooks in the sf/horror genre that come close are Wightson's A look Back and Whelan's The Art of Michael Whelan (both great King artists).

[Dan]

My daughters gave a me a copy of Knowing Darkness for Christmas (after I dropped a few hints...) and I love it. The only artbooks in the sf/horror genre that come close are Wightson's A look Back and Whelan's The Art of Michael Whelan (both great King artists).

That means you are raising them right! Welcome to the boards!

[stroppygoblin]

Another member (Jimmick) recently commented that I had a few books still in shrinkwrap and wondered when I was finally going to open them and start enjoying them! One of these was Knowing Darkness which I obtained a few weeks ago but have been reluctant to break the seal. I have thought long and hard about this and decided that I will be opening all the sealed books as I have no intention of selling any of them. The first to be opened was KD.

OMFG what a book! I have seen the odd picture of the content and have a separate set of the pullouts given to me by George Beahm, but the full content of this book is just phenomenal! I have just spent 2 hours looking through it and have only scrapped the surface. Wonderful, wonderful book :clap:

If (like me) you have been foolish enough to leave this book wrapped and unopened, GO NOW to your shelf, take it down and LOOK at the content, you are missing out on something magnificent.

[bdwyer19]

Another member (Jimmick) recently commented that I had a few books still in shrinkwrap and wondered when I was finally going to open them and start enjoying them! One of these was Knowing Darkness which I obtained a few weeks ago but have been reluctant to break the seal. I have thought long and hard about this and decided that I will be opening all the sealed books as I have no intention of selling any of them. The first to be opened was KD.

OMFG what a book! I have seen the odd picture of the content and have a separate set of the pullouts given to me by George Beahm, but the full content of this book is just phenomenal! I have just spent 2 hours looking through it and have only scrapped the surface. Wonderful, wonderful book :clap:

If (like me) you have been foolish enough to leave this book wrapped and unopened, GO NOW to your shelf, take it down and LOOK at the content, you are missing out on something magnificent.

It's about time you realized how cool this book is!!!

[Papaseraphim]

I agree.

You can always read the trade edition of a book like Dr. Sleep and enjoy it (even though you're not seeing the gorgeous art from the CD Editions), but an art book like Knowing Darkness must be unsealed, opened and enjoyed. I spend a couple of hours on Christmas morning perusing mine.




Another member (Jimmick) recently commented that I had a few books still in shrinkwrap and wondered when I was finally going to open them and start enjoying them! One of these was Knowing Darkness which I obtained a few weeks ago but have been reluctant to break the seal. I have thought long and hard about this and decided that I will be opening all the sealed books as I have no intention of selling any of them. The first to be opened was KD.

OMFG what a book! I have seen the odd picture of the content and have a separate set of the pullouts given to me by George Beahm, but the full content of this book is just phenomenal! I have just spent 2 hours looking through it and have only scrapped the surface. Wonderful, wonderful book :clap:

If (like me) you have been foolish enough to leave this book wrapped and unopened, GO NOW to your shelf, take it down and LOOK at the content, you are missing out on something magnificent.

It's about time you realized how cool this book is!!!

[herbertwest]

I agree.
You can always read the trade edition of a book like Dr. Sleep and enjoy it (even though you're not seeing the gorgeous art from the CD Editions), but an art book like Knowing Darkness must be unsealed, opened and enjoyed. I spend a couple of hours on Christmas morning perusing mine.


Except if you bought 2 copies. But yeah otherwise, it MUST be opened!

[T-Dogz_AK47]

I don't get it. Why would anyone want to buy a book and not open it?

[carlosdetweiller]

I don't get it. Why would anyone want to buy a book and not open it?

I guess for the same reason people buy collectible coins but never intend to spend them. Or buy collectible stamps and put them in protectors but never intend to mail a letter with them. Probably hoping to keep the books in as pristine condition as possible so the resale value is (presumably) higher at some point in the future. Some agree with this philosophy......others don't. Maybe it is the difference between those who love to collect books vs. those who are just hoping for a profit down the road? I don't really know. Just guessing.

[stroppygoblin]

I don't get it. Why would anyone want to buy a book and not open it?

I guess for the same reason people buy collectible coins but never intend to spend them. Or buy collectible stamps and put them in protectors but never intend to mail a letter with them. Probably hoping to keep the books in as pristine condition as possible so the resale value is (presumably) higher at some point in the future. Some agree with this philosophy......others don't. Maybe it is the difference between those who love to collect books vs. those who are just hoping for a profit down the road? I don't really know. Just guessing.

Exactly. My collection until fairly recently has been used books, which I have endeavored to buy in as top condition as possible. These days I am buying more and more expensive books some of which are limited editions direct from the publisher. As the collection has grown I have focused on US 1sts and US gift/unsigned limiteds. everything else is potential sale/trade so I wish to keep them in as pristine state as possible. I'd say I fit into both Bob's definitions, I love to collect the books, but there are certain things I will buy in order to (hopefully) make a profit that will allow me to buy more of the books I need for the collection. My signed Colorado Kid is a great example of this, I don't collect signed limited's but it was a bargain buy that will make significant profit.

[Randall Flagg]

Damn it's a big book.

http://www.thedarktower.org/custom/images/1404137782-KD%20TeN%201054x697.jpg

[stroppygoblin]

RF, is your coffee table covered in mylar?? :confused:

[herbertwest]

Damn it's a big book.

http://www.thedarktower.org/custom/images/1404137782-KD%20TeN%201054x697.jpg


Lettered I guess?

[Randall Flagg]

RF, is your coffee table covered in mylar?? :confused:
No it's marble stone. Solid piece. Weighs ~250 lbs.

[Randall Flagg]

Damn it's a big book.
Lettered I guess?
No it's numbered. I don't think they did a lettered of this book.

[stroppygoblin]

RF, is your coffee table covered in mylar?? :confused:
No it's marble stone. Solid piece. Weighs ~250 lbs.

not the one with the book on it, the one in the background...

[T-Dogz_AK47]

Damn it's a big book.
Lettered I guess?
No it's numbered. I don't think they did a lettered of this book.

There was a Roman Numeraled edition of this book, which was limited to only 25 copies that had a price tag of $5,000 when first published.

[Randall Flagg]

RF, is your coffee table covered in mylar?? :confused:
No it's marble stone. Solid piece. Weighs ~250 lbs.

not the one with the book on it, the one in the background...
No. It's just an odd lighting effect.

[Randall Flagg]

Damn it's a big book.
Lettered I guess?
No it's numbered. I don't think they did a lettered of this book.

There was a Roman Numeraled edition of this book, which was limited to only 25 copies that had a price tag of $5,000 when first published.
I think it was listed as $5,995.
Bob, do you have one?

[carlosdetweiller]

Yes. Jerad gave me one of each state as compensation for helping him and using my art pieces for the book.

[Randall Flagg]

Would you describe (show images of) the difference between the editions?

[carlosdetweiller]

Would you describe (show images of) the difference between the editions?

It is huge and stored in its original shipping box in a storeroom. It will be awhile before can dig it out. IIRC it was bound in full leather. It also included a portfolio of 20 or so of the illustrations used. I remember thinking that it wasn't worth $5K (or whatever the published price) and being glad that I didn't have to pay that. Jerad could undoubtedly provide more accurate details.

[Randall Flagg]

I hope it also had an original Whelan drawing tipped in.

[carlosdetweiller]

I hope it also had an original Whelan drawing tipped in.

I'm pretty sure it didn't. I haven't had it out to look at it in a long, long time.

[CurtSeattle]

Would you describe (show images of) the difference between the editions?

It is huge and stored in its original shipping box in a storeroom. It will be awhile before can dig it out. IIRC it was bound in full leather. It also included a portfolio of 20 or so of the illustrations used. I remember thinking that it wasn't worth $5K (or whatever the published price) and being glad that I didn't have to pay that. Jerad could undoubtedly provide more accurate details.

Forum back from the "darkness"!

Has anyone posted the illustrations included with the fanciest edition? That would be cool to see. I have a numbered edition and I have a bunch of prints but not sure if they are the same ones? I don't remember how I got them even. lol!

Are the ones at the bottom of their website for the book:

http://www.centipedepress.com/art/skart.html

[webstar1000]

Yeah I would like see pics of the 1/10 version...

[carlosdetweiller]

Yeah I would like see pics of the 1/10 version...

I've posted pics of my copy somewhere on this site. I'll see if I can find them.

[carlosdetweiller]

Yeah I would like see pics of the 1/10 version...

I've posted pics of my copy somewhere on this site. I'll see if I can find them.

In my collection thread look at post #212. There are some photos and some discussion following that.

[mikeC]

Does anyone have the Don Brautigam book that CP put out?

I was way too late to the party on that one and would love to see pics and know what the book goes for?

Any help would be great
thanks!

[Br!an]

Good luck.

Low limitation on that one.

[Lurker]

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac54/ICONfan/Don%20Brautigam_zpsskymod5a.jpg

I wonder if anyone ordered it bound in leather.

[Randall Flagg]

Bob likely has two.

[CurtSeattle]

Bob likely has two.

Haha! Good one!

[carlosdetweiller]

Bob likely has two.

I have one copy of the Brautigam book. Bound in cloth and not leather and housed in a slipcase. Here are my notes on the book added when I got it and after talking to Jerad.

"Copy "II" of an unknown number of copies. The original plan was for 300 cloth copies numbered in black ink and 22 leather copies numbered with red Roman numerals. The leather edition was never produced. This copy has the limitation page with red Roman numeral "II" and is signed by both Brautigam and Dean Koontz who wrote the introduction. The limitation page for the leather edition was considered superior as it contained both signatures and was used on this copy as a favor from the publisher."

[Randall Flagg]

I guess I should have said "Bob likely has II", rather than Bob likely has two...

[carlosdetweiller]

I guess I should have said "Bob likely has II", rather than Bob likely has two...

Way back in 2004 when Centipede Press announced the S/L of 'Salem's Lot for sale it was done (to my knowledge) without any advance warning. I'm not sure how Bev Vincent heard of it but I got an e-mail from him one day asking me if I had heard of this and if I thought it was legit. He included a link to the web page and that was the first time I had heard of it. That weekend just happened to be the weekend my ISP decided to change servers and my e-mails (unbeknownst to me) were taking up to seven hours to both send and receive. With only 15 copies of the leather edition available I missed out on it completely. Jerad received my e-mail requesting a copy in plenty of time but his request for my credit card information, etc. was delayed and all the copies were sold by the time I finally got my order complete.

I told my sad tale to Jerad and he told me not to worry and that he thought he had held back two copies for his parents. He didn't think that they wanted or needed both and he would likely have an extra for sale. That started a really great relationship with Jerad and I told him I would buy a copy of all the books he published. The number "2" or Roman numeral "II" became my number and for the next 10 years I have copy "2" or "II" of every Centipede Press title. When I initially told Jerad I wanted a copy of every book he published I really had no idea what he had planned for Centipede Press. I thought it might be a book or two a year. Ten years later I finally had to tell Jerad I had no more room and had to stop buying every book. He understood and said his shelves were overflowing too. Anyway, that's my story on the number "2." He keeps number "1" for himself.

[Dan]

I guess I should have said "Bob likely has II", rather than Bob likely has two...

Way back in 2004 when Centipede Press announced the S/L of 'Salem's Lot for sale it was done (to my knowledge) without any advance warning. I'm not sure how Bev Vincent heard of it but I got an e-mail from him one day asking me if I had heard of this and if I thought it was legit. He included a link to the web page and that was the first time I had heard of it. That weekend just happened to be the weekend my ISP decided to change servers and my e-mails (unbeknownst to me) were taking up to seven hours to both send and receive. With only 15 copies of the leather edition available I missed out on it completely. Jerad received my e-mail requesting a copy in plenty of time but his request for my credit card information, etc. was delayed and all the copies were sold by the time I finally got my order complete.

I told my sad tale to Jerad and he told me not to worry and that he thought he had held back two copies for his parents. He didn't think that they wanted or needed both and he would likely have an extra for sale. That started a really great relationship with Jerad and I told him I would buy a copy of all the books he published. The number "2" or Roman numeral "II" became my number and for the next 10 years I have copy "2" or "II" of every Centipede Press title. When I initially told Jerad I wanted a copy of every book he published I really had no idea what he had planned for Centipede Press. I thought it might be a book or two a year. Ten years later I finally had to tell Jerad I had no more room and had to stop buying every book. He understood and said his shelves were overflowing too. Anyway, that's my story on the number "2." He keeps number "1" for himself.

Haha, great story!

[webstar1000]

I guess I should have said "Bob likely has II", rather than Bob likely has two...

Way back in 2004 when Centipede Press announced the S/L of 'Salem's Lot for sale it was done (to my knowledge) without any advance warning. I'm not sure how Bev Vincent heard of it but I got an e-mail from him one day asking me if I had heard of this and if I thought it was legit. He included a link to the web page and that was the first time I had heard of it. That weekend just happened to be the weekend my ISP decided to change servers and my e-mails (unbeknownst to me) were taking up to seven hours to both send and receive. With only 15 copies of the leather edition available I missed out on it completely. Jerad received my e-mail requesting a copy in plenty of time but his request for my credit card information, etc. was delayed and all the copies were sold by the time I finally got my order complete.

I told my sad tale to Jerad and he told me not to worry and that he thought he had held back two copies for his parents. He didn't think that they wanted or needed both and he would likely have an extra for sale. That started a really great relationship with Jerad and I told him I would buy a copy of all the books he published. The number "2" or Roman numeral "II" became my number and for the next 10 years I have copy "2" or "II" of every Centipede Press title. When I initially told Jerad I wanted a copy of every book he published I really had no idea what he had planned for Centipede Press. I thought it might be a book or two a year. Ten years later I finally had to tell Jerad I had no more room and had to stop buying every book. He understood and said his shelves were overflowing too. Anyway, that's my story on the number "2." He keeps number "1" for himself.

Bob, I swear your the biggest asset to this site. Your stories and antidotes of King stories are just as amazing as your collection. I look forward to the day when I can take you out for a nice meal and hear more:) Thanks for sharing!

[carlosdetweiller]

Bob, I swear your the biggest asset to this site. Your stories and antidotes of King stories are just as amazing as your collection. I look forward to the day when I can take you out for a nice meal and hear more:) Thanks for sharing!

Thanks for the kind words. And I look forward to that day too!

[mikeC]

Excellent story Bob thanks!
It's a bummer they went from 300 to 75, guess it will be impossible to get.
Thanks Lurker for posting that original listing, I couldn't find that.

[Bev Vincent]

I guess I should have said "Bob likely has II", rather than Bob likely has two...

Way back in 2004 when Centipede Press announced the S/L of 'Salem's Lot for sale it was done (to my knowledge) without any advance warning. I'm not sure how Bev Vincent heard of it but I got an e-mail from him one day asking me if I had heard of this and if I thought it was legit. He included a link to the web page and that was the first time I had heard of it. That weekend just happened to be the weekend my ISP decided to change servers and my e-mails (unbeknownst to me) were taking up to seven hours to both send and receive. With only 15 copies of the leather edition available I missed out on it completely. Jerad received my e-mail requesting a copy in plenty of time but his request for my credit card information, etc. was delayed and all the copies were sold by the time I finally got my order complete.

I told my sad tale to Jerad and he told me not to worry and that he thought he had held back two copies for his parents. He didn't think that they wanted or needed both and he would likely have an extra for sale. That started a really great relationship with Jerad and I told him I would buy a copy of all the books he published. The number "2" or Roman numeral "II" became my number and for the next 10 years I have copy "2" or "II" of every Centipede Press title. When I initially told Jerad I wanted a copy of every book he published I really had no idea what he had planned for Centipede Press. I thought it might be a book or two a year. Ten years later I finally had to tell Jerad I had no more room and had to stop buying every book. He understood and said his shelves were overflowing too. Anyway, that's my story on the number "2." He keeps number "1" for himself.

I don't remember how I heard about it, either -- people just tell me stuff from time to time. I'd have to go back through my old emails to figure that one out.

I didn't opt for a copy at first, but then Jerad had a bump-and-dent sale and I picked up a copy at a steep discount. And I can't find a single flaw with the copy. Jerad is a stand-up guy who makes great books. I met him at World Horror in Austin a few years ago and got to work with him when I contributed to Danel Olson's book about The Shining.

[carlosdetweiller]

I contributed to Danel Olson's book about The Shining.

I really enjoyed the chapter that you wrote for that book. I had long heard of the supposed hidden meanings, etc. that Kubrick put in the movie and about the fanatical discussions that are still ongoing about the movie. I had been meaning to look into some of them but had never gotten around to doing it. Just lazy, I guess. Anyway you did all the work for me and I learned more than I needed from your chapter. Lots of crazy (insane) Kubrick fans out there! You cut through a lot of the crap and told me what I wanted to know.

[Lurker]

Excellent story Bob thanks!
It's a bummer they went from 300 to 75, guess it will be impossible to get.
Thanks Lurker for posting that original listing, I couldn't find that.

Actually, that was the last listing for the book. There were four or five different ones before that - if you want them - PM me an e-mail and I'll send you the PDFs.