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razz
04-30-2008, 06:04 AM
lets start shall we?
-Goosebumps. as i grew up, every kid was reading the goosebumps books. around fourth grade i started to mention that to kids. They say it's better that what your reading. i hold up a 300 page Crichton Novel. they shut up.

Daghain
04-30-2008, 07:18 AM
Blood Meridian. Beloved. Total suck.

Brice
04-30-2008, 07:25 AM
If everything Jane Austin wrote were erased from this planet I wouldn't be upset at all. Quite possibly the most boring writer to EVER have lived.

Girlystevedave
04-30-2008, 07:26 AM
I've said it before...I'll say it again: F*cking Scarlet Letter! (shakes fist)

Daghain
04-30-2008, 08:49 AM
If everything Jane Austin wrote were erased from this planet I wouldn't be upset at all. Quite possibly the most boring writer to EVER have lived.

:o

razz
04-30-2008, 08:53 AM
I hated "To Kill a Mockingbird". And "The Great Gatsby"
Gatsby was kinda boring, and MOckingbird was plain retarded. aslo, they didn't even teach us how to kill a mockingbird. that's false advertising.

Girlystevedave
04-30-2008, 08:54 AM
I hated "To Kill a Mockingbird". And "The Great Gatsby"
Gatsby was kinda boring, and MOckingbird was plain retarded. aslo, they didn't even teach us how to kill a mockingbird. that's false advertising.

:rofl:
I liked Mockingbird....but that's funny.

what
04-30-2008, 10:17 AM
Jubilee by Margaret Walker. Horrible book in my opinion.

Aaron
04-30-2008, 10:32 AM
I actually used to hate The Scarlet Letter quite a bit, but then I read it again when I was older and really liked it.

I can't think of any off the top of my head. Usually if I really dislike a book I just won't finish it. I would say the worst I have read to completion was probably Christine.

Jean
04-30-2008, 10:56 PM
If everything Jane Austin wrote were erased from this planet I wouldn't be upset at all. Quite possibly the most boring writer to EVER have lived.

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one of my very favorite authors...


I hated "To Kill a Mockingbird".
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one of my very favorite books...


I've said it before...I'll say it again: F*cking Scarlet Letter! (shakes fist)

at last something I can agree with!

Daghain
04-30-2008, 10:59 PM
See, I knew I loved you! :wub:

<---------- is a HUGE Jane Austen fan!

<---------- LOVED To Kill a Mockingbird

<---------- was so/so on The Scarlet Letter

Jean
04-30-2008, 11:08 PM
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razz
05-01-2008, 05:25 AM
can't hate scarlet letter. never read it. if i do, i probably will hate it.

Brice
05-01-2008, 05:27 AM
:lol: How could you assume that?

ladysai
05-01-2008, 05:38 AM
I have never been able to finish anything by Dostoyevsky. I know he wrote some classics of literature and all, but I just couldnt slog through all those names.
:blink:

Brice
05-01-2008, 05:44 AM
If everything Jane Austin wrote were erased from this planet I wouldn't be upset at all. Quite possibly the most boring writer to EVER have lived.

:o



If everything Jane Austin wrote were erased from this planet I wouldn't be upset at all. Quite possibly the most boring writer to EVER have lived.

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one of my very favorite authors...


I hated "To Kill a Mockingbird".
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one of my very favorite books...


I've said it before...I'll say it again: F*cking Scarlet Letter! (shakes fist)

at last something I can agree with!

I will spare y'all of my comprehensive list of things I'd prefer over reading even one word this woman wrote. :)

jayson
05-01-2008, 09:10 AM
first to weigh in on two of the prev mentioned...

i LOVE to kill a mockingbird. great story, great characters, well written.

Scarlet Letter = most boring book ever. well maybe not the most boring, but if that's not, than surely something else written by Nathaniel Hawthorne must be. he is, by a wide margin, the most boring author i have ever read.

now, since these were both books i initially read due to some school requirement, let me suggest another book i had to read for the same 8th grade english in which i first read To Kill a Mockingbird, and that is The Good Earth, by Pearl S. Buck. Who would make an 8th grader read this? It was so dull. Not Hawthorne dull, but still, snoozers all the way. I wonder if it's any better if you read it as an adult? not that i plan on doing that any time soon.

Brice
05-01-2008, 09:13 AM
I absolutely love everything Hawthorne wrote. Jayson, just read Jane Austen. After that ALL other writing will seem profoundly interesting.

jayson
05-01-2008, 09:18 AM
Hawthorne is the cure for insomnia.
I've read Pride and Prejudice and I agree, Austen is awful.

OchrisO
05-01-2008, 09:20 AM
I hated Hawthorne in highschool, but once I started studying him on the college level, he became one of my favorite authors. As it turns out, he was just being taught to me wrong. He is quite an interesting author once you realize that he has a lot of puritain guilt and it mostly making fun of his puritain ancestors.


As for bad books, The Deerslayer, or anything by James Fenimore Cooper makes me want to stab my eyes out with a spoon.

turtlex
05-01-2008, 09:25 AM
Wow, this is kind of a painful thread to read.

First, To Kill A Mockingbird is one of my all time favorite books. It is probably tied with On The Road.

Secondly, I really liked The Scarlet Letter. I think it helps if you're older when you read it and aren't forced to "study" it for school.

I nominate two books that I had to read, both multiple times, for classes :

1. A Separate Peace by John Knowles. Yeah, I get the imagery. Get over yourself.

2. Ethan Frome. Oh. My. God. How. Boring. Good, though, if you're allergic to Ambien and need something to put you to sleep.

jayson
05-01-2008, 09:27 AM
1. A Separate Peace by John Knowles. Yeah, I get the imagery. Get over yourself.


agree with you there. i HATED that book.

razz
05-01-2008, 01:31 PM
heres an alternative booklist to those things wa hate
1. Fahrenheit 451
2. Anything SK
3.Anything Crichton.
4. The Home Team: Undeclared War.
5.Any novelization of a Doctor Who episode



How could you assume that?
1. not by Stephen King
2. not by Michael Crichton
3. not a novelization of a Doctor Who Episode
4. It sounds like it has no action in it
5. everyone at my school hates it
6. it doesn't give me a sense of foreboding when i think of the title

and my forbodie-senses is never wrong

razz
05-01-2008, 01:32 PM
also, read the god delusion.

Heather19
05-01-2008, 02:37 PM
I've never been able to make it thru To Kill a Mockingbird. I remember having to read it for some english lit class in highschool, and I think I just glanced over portions of the story to get the jist. And then just recently a friend of mine who loves that story insisted that I try reading it again, so I did, but still could not get into it, and was never able to finish it.


I can't believe all this Jane Austen hate. I only recently started reading her stuff, but so far I've loved all that I've read.

susie
05-01-2008, 03:00 PM
i hate these books:

1. victorian drawing room dramas. i just... I HATE THEM.
2. mary shelley's frankenstein. i stomped on my copy, and i generally believe in non-violence towards books. XD
3. dostoevsky's crime and punishment (i dislike his characters/ideals)
4. most children's book serials. like the nancy drew series, goosebumps, magic treehouse... they are so damned awful.

OchrisO
05-01-2008, 03:03 PM
i hate these books:

1. victorian drawing room dramas. i just... I HATE THEM.
2. mary shelley's frankenstein. i stomped on my copy, and i generally believe in non-violence towards books. XD
3. dostoevsky's crime and punishment (i dislike his characters/ideals)
4. most children's book serials. like the nancy drew series, goosebumps, magic treehouse... they are so damned awful.


Victorian drawing room comedies are much better. Much love for Oscar Wilde.


And the Dostoevsky hate makes me sad. :(

Daghain
05-01-2008, 03:12 PM
I can't believe all this Jane Austen hate. I only recently started reading her stuff, but so far I've loved all that I've read.


I know. I'm really quite broken up about it. Jane doesn't get much love around here. :lol:

Matt
05-01-2008, 03:18 PM
Jane's cool with me and I LOVED To Kill a Mockingbird.

LadyHitchhiker
05-01-2008, 03:20 PM
Johnny Tremaine....

Jean
05-01-2008, 09:43 PM
I can't believe all this Jane Austen hate. I only recently started reading her stuff, but so far I've loved all that I've read.


I know. I'm really quite broken up about it. Jane doesn't get much love around here. :lol:

yes, she does

for Jane O.:

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John Blaze
05-01-2008, 10:41 PM
is The Good Earth, by Pearl S. Buck. Who would make an 8th grader read this? It was so dull. Not Hawthorne dull, but still, snoozers all the way. I wonder if it's any better if you read it as an adult? not that i plan on doing that any time soon.

Dude, I can choke you for this. My older brother got this as required reading when I was in eigth grade and he was in tenth, and I read it for him. To this day it's one of my favorite books.

also, Johnny Tremain is a great book. I only wish it were longer!

the only book I can honestly say I hated so much I couldn't finish it is anything by Dean Kootnz. Fuck him in his fucken ass.

turtlex
05-02-2008, 05:06 AM
Oh, man, I loved the Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew when I was a kid. They really introduced me to reading, and since there were so many of them, I always had another book in the pipe.

I'm not a Robin Cook fan at all. Every book feels the same.

John Blaze
05-02-2008, 10:44 AM
i read all the Hardy Boys books when I was in 4th grade. Loved them, really.

i hated everything by Stephen Crane, and here recently I'd forgotten that. i bought red badge of courage the other day and it sucks!

Brice
05-02-2008, 10:47 AM
Just a friendly reminder of how horrendously bad writing can get: JANE FUCKIN' AUSTIN!!!!!

obscurejude
05-02-2008, 10:49 AM
Thanks for that reminder Brice. :thumbsup: Keep em comin'.

Brice
05-02-2008, 10:52 AM
Also quite bad is Jane Austin.

jayson
05-02-2008, 10:53 AM
Brice, I hear Jane Austen sucks. What do you think?

John Blaze
05-02-2008, 10:57 AM
i heard she's worse than Dean Koontz, and that's bad.

Brice
05-02-2008, 10:57 AM
Well, she's really a pretty good writer...with the possible exception of every word she's written which should be summarily excised from the language now that they are tainted by coming from her cursed hands.

Brice
05-02-2008, 10:59 AM
i heard she's worse than Dean Koontz, and that's bad.

A hundred Dean Koontz's couldn't equal the blight on the language that this woman created.

jayson
05-02-2008, 10:59 AM
i heard she's worse than Dean Koontz, and that's bad.

She's so bad they should be legally obliged to clearly print the words "Worse than Dean Koontz" on the jacket of all of her books.

Daghain
05-02-2008, 10:59 AM
Brice, if you're going to be insulting you can at least spell her name right. It's Austen. :lol:

CyberGhostface
05-02-2008, 11:01 AM
Dark Tower 7. :evil:

I'm (kinda) half-joking. Its rare to read a book that I *hate*. I mean, there are books I don't like, but a lot of the time its movies that are more likely to get a strong negative reaction from me.

On the other hand, I enjoyed DT7 more than Scarlet Letter (for example), which I found boring. Still, DT7 pissed me off more for reasons I have stated elsewhere that I don't feel like dragging up now. I mean, Scarlet Letter was harmless in the long run. DT7 left a taint on what used to be my favorite books.

I suppose if I were to read His Dark Materials, I might get a stronger negative reaction because everything I've read about Pullman has him coming off as a prick. King, while I don't like some of his stuff, comes off as nice person.

Daghain
05-02-2008, 11:01 AM
:o

Brice
05-02-2008, 11:07 AM
Brice, if you're going to be insulting you can at least spell her name right. It's Austen. :lol:


Oh, well I didn't want to cut off my hands for typing her name. <_<


*runs to start The Reasons There Cannot Be A God: Jane Austen Thread*


*boils hands*

Brice
05-02-2008, 11:08 AM
Dark Tower 7. :evil:


BLASPHEMER!!!!!

CyberGhostface
05-02-2008, 11:17 AM
Hey, I love the first six books. I think 6 to 1 is a pretty decent ratio. ;)

Brice
05-02-2008, 11:19 AM
Yes, six out of seven times you are correct. :lol:

Rjeso
05-02-2008, 11:33 AM
I loooove TKaM. Always have, always will.

However, I did NOT like The Dress Lodger. Couldn't even make it past the first fifteen pages. Blech. The subject matter sounded awesome, but I could not get along with the writer's style. That was a few years ago, I might give it another shot.

razz
05-02-2008, 01:16 PM
most children's book serials. like the nancy drew series, goosebumps, magic treehouse... they are so damned awful.
Johnathan rand shoulda made a Michigan Chillers book about Flint, now that's scary.

i heard she's worse than Dean Koontz, and that's bad.
his novel "Watchers" wasn't too bad

Daghain
05-02-2008, 01:50 PM
Flint is scary in and of itself. :lol:

BillyxRansom
05-02-2008, 05:21 PM
I hated "To Kill a Mockingbird". And "The Great Gatsby"
Gatsby was kinda boring, and MOckingbird was plain retarded. aslo, they didn't even teach us how to kill a mockingbird. that's false advertising.

[/facepalm]

Telynn
05-02-2008, 07:13 PM
Kids books like Goosebumps and The Babysitters Club were wonderful if for no other reason then it got kids to read. So when they are older they move on and realize the books were bad. It got them to read.

I liked To Kill a Mockingbird ok, but I HATED The Great Gatsby. Snorefest. A short story I didn't like, The Old Man and the Sea. Sorry for any Hemingway fans, but there was no point. Longest damn short story I ever read.

And I know I will probably get slapped down for this but.... as much as I loved the first three books of Dune, I wasn't too thrilled with the 4th and hated the 5th. I started the 6th only to realize I hated it as much as the 5th and didn't finish it.

John Blaze
05-02-2008, 07:20 PM
alot of people have said that, Telynn, but let me say something else.

I've never liked any of the Dune books. :D

BillyxRansom
05-02-2008, 10:05 PM
If I could, just for a moment, throw my contribution in to the cog of this hate-filled machine that is this thread, I'd just like to include DHALGREN in the mix here. I'd love for someone to discuss this with me.

Jean
05-02-2008, 11:04 PM
<...> I HATED The Great Gatsby. Snorefest. A short story I didn't like, The Old Man and the Sea. Sorry for any Hemingway fans, but there was no point. Longest damn short story I ever read.



I've never liked any of the Dune books. :D

!!! agree with the three statements !!!

razz
05-03-2008, 03:33 AM
Jane's cool with me and I LOVED To Kill a Mockingbird.
so did i, but then my rifle broke.

razz
05-03-2008, 03:40 AM
Flint is scary in and of itself. :lol:one of the few cities you can watch a gang fight like a movie. from your bedroom window

:nana::nana::nana:
even more fun if it's at night and you got an air rifle and megaphone

Steve
05-05-2008, 09:39 PM
Blood Meridian. Beloved. Total suck.

I am in total shock.

Rjeso
05-06-2008, 04:30 AM
Things Fall Apart.

"Yam, king of crop" is about what that book amounts to, to me at least. 'Course, I read it back in tenth grade, and I'd like to think I've matured at least a little bit since then. Maybe I'd see it differently now. I sure despised it back then, though.

jayson
05-06-2008, 04:36 AM
Things Fall Apart.
...
'Course, I read it back in tenth grade, and I'd like to think I've matured at least a little bit since then. Maybe I'd see it differently now. I sure despised it back then, though.

maybe not Laura. I read it in 8th grade and thought it was horrible. read it again in college and though i appreciated it's cultural significance a bit more at that point, i still hated it.

Daghain
05-06-2008, 09:16 AM
Blood Meridian. Beloved. Total suck.

I am in total shock.

Really? I think Cormac is the devil. :lol: Blood Meridian is now officially the only book I have never finished. My version of hell would be being locked in a room with nothing but books by Cormac McCarthy. Seriously.

Steve
05-06-2008, 09:25 AM
Blood Meridian. Beloved. Total suck.

I am in total shock.

Really? I think Cormac is the devil. :lol: Blood Meridian is now officially the only book I have never finished. My version of hell would be being locked in a room with nothing but books by Cormac McCarthy. Seriously.


Your hell is my heaven, Dag.

Daghain
05-06-2008, 09:54 AM
Oh well, to each his own. :lol:

OchrisO
05-06-2008, 11:01 AM
I thought that Things Fall Apart was great. I have much respect for Chinua Achebe.

jayson
05-06-2008, 11:09 AM
Perhaps if I were to try to read it once more in a non-academic setting I might get more out of it than I had previously.

Rjeso
05-06-2008, 11:23 AM
Yeah, I'm willing to give it another go too, as I am a different person than I was as a high school sophomore.

jayson
05-06-2008, 11:29 AM
i still have the copy i read in college. one of these days i will have to give it another go.

Erin
05-06-2008, 01:04 PM
I thought that Things Fall Apart was great. I have much respect for Chinua Achebe.

What he said. :thumbsup:

Hmmm. Books I've hated.

I could never get into Huckleberry Finn. But it was probably the hectic school imposed pace I was forced to read it that lead to my distaste.

LadyHitchhiker
05-06-2008, 01:08 PM
alot of people have said that, Telynn, but let me say something else.

I've never liked any of the Dune books. :D

Ditto

LadyHitchhiker
05-06-2008, 01:11 PM
the crucible I did not like... but I LOVED My Fair Lady...

razz
05-08-2008, 04:09 PM
crucible... play or was there a novelization? hated the play. movie wasn't too bad.

MonteGss
05-08-2008, 05:43 PM
I could never get into Huckleberry Finn....

It was ok, I wouldn't say I hated it. However, I really don't understand why it is considered such a classic. Tom Sawyer was way better, imo. :)

razz
05-08-2008, 05:53 PM
never read either.

obscurejude
05-08-2008, 10:15 PM
I could never get into Huckleberry Finn....

It was ok, I wouldn't say I hated it. However, I really don't understand why it is considered such a classic. Tom Sawyer was way better, imo. :)

Tom Sawyer was good but it didn't have the depth of Huck Finn.

OchrisO
05-08-2008, 10:22 PM
I thought that Things Fall Apart was great. I have much respect for Chinua Achebe.

What he said. :thumbsup:

Hmmm. Books I've hated.

I could never get into Huckleberry Finn. But it was probably the hectic school imposed pace I was forced to read it that lead to my distaste.

I'd imagine so. I suggest you give it a try now. I think you'd like it.

Jean
05-08-2008, 10:38 PM
I could never get into Huckleberry Finn....

It was ok, I wouldn't say I hated it. However, I really don't understand why it is considered such a classic. Tom Sawyer was way better, imo. :)
for me it's the other way. I love Tom Sawyer, and reread it approximately once five years, but I reread Huckleberry Finn every year, it's one of the main books in the world for me


Tom Sawyer was good but it didn't have the depth of Huck Finn.
the depth, the width, the lyricism, the dramatism, that unique personal note, I don't know, whatever. Tom Sawyer is a classical insight into the soul of a boy everyone may once have been, but Huckleberry Finn addresses directly to mine.

Ka-tet
05-09-2008, 09:11 AM
If anyone ever shows me a copy of to kill a mockingbird ever again....I WILL KILL THEM.

And okay im not sure if i wanna say this......The Lord Of The Rings Trilogy? I loved the movies so much, and i told my uncle i didnt like the books. His reply was, "Try them in a few years once you matrure a little more" like he suggested i do with Dune. And he swears by Dune.

obscurejude
05-09-2008, 11:24 AM
I could never get into Huckleberry Finn....

It was ok, I wouldn't say I hated it. However, I really don't understand why it is considered such a classic. Tom Sawyer was way better, imo. :)
for me it's the other way. I love Tom Sawyer, and reread it approximately once five years, but I reread Huckleberry Finn every year, it's one of the main books in the world for me


Tom Sawyer was good but it didn't have the depth of Huck Finn.
the depth, the width, the lyricism, the dramatism, that unique personal note, I don't know, whatever. Tom Sawyer is a classical insight into the soul of a boy everyone may once have been, but Huckleberry Finn addresses directly to mine.

Well put, I usually take the utopia of the river as a contrast to the ills of the society that Huck and Jim travel. After they are interrupted on their adventure, it becomes harder and harder for the two to return to that blissful state. Its pretty obvious that Twain is making several poignant comments about the hypocrisy of several of the institutions of his day (religion, slavery, etc...) You can enjoy the novel on a surface level, but I like when the adventure leads to some serious contemplation as well. I feel that Tom Sawyer is more of just an adventure story without the social commentary that I've come to associate with Twain.

blaineworshipper
05-09-2008, 11:33 AM
I had to read 'Birdsong' (Sebastian Faulks) at school last year, and it was possibly one of the worst books I have ever read. It was so bad I struggles to get 50 pages in, let alone finish it.

Rjeso
05-09-2008, 11:35 AM
I'm with Jean - Tom Sawyer is great, but Huck Finn is tops!

obscurejude
05-09-2008, 11:50 AM
I'm with Jean - Tom Sawyer is great, but Huck Finn is tops!

I think that means that the three of us are together. :thumbsup:

cozener
05-09-2008, 12:27 PM
Insomnia

MonteGss
05-09-2008, 12:45 PM
I agree with that Cozener. It is pretty bad, as I've said many times on this site.

Heather19
05-09-2008, 01:27 PM
And I'll agree with both of you. Never did care for it.

Girlystevedave
05-09-2008, 01:31 PM
I want to try to read it again, with hopes I'll enjoy it. But, it is the one SK book I had to force myself to finish.

obscurejude
05-09-2008, 01:49 PM
Insomnia

While I respectfully disagree, its good to see you posting again. :) Are you feeling better?

razz
05-09-2008, 03:53 PM
there were quite a few novels i couldn't finish reading because i couldn't get into it. The first stephen king book i read was Salems Lot. I read the first 10 pages or so and put it down. this was when i was 11. a month later i read Cujo, and i was hooked on king, reading Salems Lot in less than a week

Girlystevedave
05-09-2008, 06:07 PM
Believe it or not, the first time I picked up The Gunslinger, I could not get into it. I didn't pick it back up for over a year. The rest is history.

This is why I firmly believe that, just like music, each story has it's own destined time for each of us. You can't force it. :rose:

razz
05-09-2008, 06:58 PM
i can believe it. my Geometry/ Algebra teacher suggested the series. lent me the last one when i couldn't get it from the library. Part of the reason i needed summer school for that class.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Jean
05-09-2008, 10:39 PM
Insomnia

::waits for Mattqhew to come and tear Cozener's head off::


Believe it or not, the first time I picked up The Gunslinger, I could not get into it.
I still can't.

Ka-tet
05-10-2008, 02:46 AM
Insomnia

::waits for Mattqhew to come and tear Cozener's head off::


Believe it or not, the first time I picked up The Gunslinger, I could not get into it.
I still can't.

An interesting thing to say jean, im curious as to what you mean by that.

Rjeso
05-10-2008, 03:45 AM
Believe it or not, the first time I picked up The Gunslinger, I could not get into it. I didn't pick it back up for over a year. The rest is history.

I do believe it, because I was the same way. I guess I just had to find the right time to begin the series, and apparently October '06 was the right time.

Brice
05-10-2008, 04:21 AM
Insomnia

::waits for Mattqhew to come and tear Cozener's head off::


Believe it or not, the first time I picked up The Gunslinger, I could not get into it.
I still can't.

An interesting thing to say jean, im curious as to what you mean by that.

He means just that. :lol: The gunslinger apparently does very little for him.


If anyone ever shows me a copy of to kill a mockingbird ever again....I WILL KILL THEM.



http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/fatuhiva/tokillamockingbird.jpg

:P :P :P

Ka-tet
05-10-2008, 09:52 AM
Insomnia

::waits for Mattqhew to come and tear Cozener's head off::


Believe it or not, the first time I picked up The Gunslinger, I could not get into it.
I still can't.

An interesting thing to say jean, im curious as to what you mean by that.

He means just that. :lol: The gunslinger apparently does very little for him.


If anyone ever shows me a copy of to kill a mockingbird ever again....I WILL KILL THEM.



http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/fatuhiva/tokillamockingbird.jpg

:P :P :P

*Headshot*

obscurejude
05-10-2008, 09:55 AM
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Brice
05-10-2008, 09:56 AM
I am surprised noone has said it yet here, but....









The Dark Tower series

Ka-tet
05-10-2008, 09:58 AM
I am surprised noone has said it yet here, but....









The Dark Tower series

*Headshot* Thats the third time in 5 min.

MonteGss
05-10-2008, 10:00 AM
I am surprised noone has said it yet here, but....









The Dark Tower series

Banned. Fired. Divorced as my friend.
:lol:

Brice
05-10-2008, 10:00 AM
Hmm? I thought this was just the second time you killed me. :orely: Was it another thread?

obscurejude
05-10-2008, 10:00 AM
*bandages Brice*

*launches nuke at middlesborough with "to Kill a Mockingbird" painted on the side in red*

obscurejude
05-10-2008, 10:00 AM
Monte banned me too Brice. :couple:

Brice
05-10-2008, 10:01 AM
I am surprised noone has said it yet here, but....









The Dark Tower series

Banned. Fired. Divorced as my friend.
:lol:



Matter of fact the only thing I think MIGHT be worse is The Lord Of The Rings series. :P

Brice
05-10-2008, 10:03 AM
*bandages Brice*

*launches nuke at middlesborough with "to Kill a Mockingbird" painted on the side in red*

*Sends a million copies of the book to Katet's house*




Monte banned me too Brice. :couple:

Then I am in good company. :D

Ka-tet
05-10-2008, 10:06 AM
*bandages Brice*

*launches nuke at middlesborough with "to Kill a Mockingbird" painted on the side in red*

*Sends a million copies of the book to Katet's house*




Monte banned me too Brice. :couple:

Then I am in good company. :D

*Headshot* STAY DEAD BRICE!

*Burns down own house so postman cant find it*

*Flys and intersepts obscurejude's missle and sends it crashing down on Brice's head*

RECOVER FROM THAT BIATCH

Brice
05-10-2008, 10:08 AM
*bandages Brice*

*launches nuke at middlesborough with "to Kill a Mockingbird" painted on the side in red*

*Sends a million copies of the book to Katet's house*




Monte banned me too Brice. :couple:

Then I am in good company. :D

*Headshot* STAY DEAD BRICE!

*Burns down own house so postman cant find it*

*Flys and intersepts obscurejude's missle and sends it crashing down on Brice's head*

RECOVER FROM THAT BIATCH



*sets up Harper Lee fansite in Katet's name with his real email*

obscurejude
05-10-2008, 10:09 AM
*Burger King's bomb shelter saves Brice's head*

obscurejude
05-10-2008, 10:09 AM
*bandages Brice*

*launches nuke at middlesborough with "to Kill a Mockingbird" painted on the side in red*

*Sends a million copies of the book to Katet's house*




Monte banned me too Brice. :couple:

Then I am in good company. :D

*Headshot* STAY DEAD BRICE!

*Burns down own house so postman cant find it*

*Flys and intersepts obscurejude's missle and sends it crashing down on Brice's head*

RECOVER FROM THAT BIATCH



*sets up Harper Lee fansite in Katet's name with his real email*



:rofl:

Brice
05-10-2008, 10:10 AM
:D

obscurejude
05-10-2008, 10:10 AM
*applauds Ka-Tet's creativity*

jayson
05-10-2008, 10:10 AM
*starts remembering to refer to Ka-tet as Scout*

Ka-tet
05-10-2008, 10:12 AM
*bandages Brice*

*launches nuke at middlesborough with "to Kill a Mockingbird" painted on the side in red*

*Sends a million copies of the book to Katet's house*




Monte banned me too Brice. :couple:

Then I am in good company. :D

*Headshot* STAY DEAD BRICE!

*Burns down own house so postman cant find it*

*Flys and intersepts obscurejude's missle and sends it crashing down on Brice's head*

RECOVER FROM THAT BIATCH



*sets up Harper Lee fansite in Katet's name with his real email*



:rofl:

*Uses holy water on brice*

Unfound One
05-10-2008, 10:13 AM
Ah! This thread has become a zombie war zone!
*runs away!*

Jean
05-10-2008, 10:16 AM
Ka-tet: I meant, as Brice correctly surmised, that The Gunslinger is a book I don't really like, although I do appreciate it as an epigraph, though exceedingly lengthy, to the series proper. I expanded on that (on a number of occasions, I'm afraid) in the threads devoted to the DT books. http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mishemplushem/Facilitation/0134-bear.gif

obscurejude
05-10-2008, 10:18 AM
*has Saki (my cat) lick the holy water off of Zombie Brice*

Brice
05-10-2008, 10:18 AM
*bandages Brice*

*launches nuke at middlesborough with "to Kill a Mockingbird" painted on the side in red*

*Sends a million copies of the book to Katet's house*




Monte banned me too Brice. :couple:

Then I am in good company. :D

*Headshot* STAY DEAD BRICE!

*Burns down own house so postman cant find it*

*Flys and intersepts obscurejude's missle and sends it crashing down on Brice's head*

RECOVER FROM THAT BIATCH



*sets up Harper Lee fansite in Katet's name with his real email*



:rofl:

*Uses holy water on brice*

:evil:

Brice
05-10-2008, 10:20 AM
*has Saki (my cat) lick the holy water off of Zombie Brice*

*pets Saki affectionately*

*also send Ka-tet autographed Harper Lee books*

Ka-tet
05-10-2008, 10:20 AM
*headshot on cat*

COME BACK UNFOUNDONE WE CANNOT LET THE EVIL ZOMBIE BRICE PREVAIL!

*summons bahamut on brice*

*uses signed copy of the gunslinger to defeat evil to kill a mockingbird books*

Jean: i get you now ^.^

Unfound One
05-10-2008, 10:21 AM
Noooo!!!
You can't kill Saki!

Brice
05-10-2008, 10:21 AM
*turns Bahamut into his own personal pet*

*turns Saki into zombiesaki*


*pulls SJ back and zombiehugs her*

Ka-tet
05-10-2008, 10:22 AM
*starts remembering to refer to Ka-tet as Scout*

Also why scout?

Ka-tet
05-10-2008, 10:23 AM
NOOOOOO

*summons Leon Kennedy to help defete zombies*

*summons neo-bahamut to defeat evil bahamut*

obscurejude
05-10-2008, 10:24 AM
*can't run from zombie Saki (loves her too much) and is bitten, becoming Zombie Ryan*

Unfound One
05-10-2008, 10:25 AM
Must.... get.... Ka-Tet!

Brice
05-10-2008, 10:26 AM
*zombiebahamut turns neo-bahamut into clone of hisself*

*wonders who the hell Leon Kennedy is* :lol:

*sics zombiesaki on ka-tet*

*is forced to tell Ka-tet we (myself included) must get back on topic or converge on a non SK forum for this*

Ka-tet
05-10-2008, 10:26 AM
NOT THAT SAKI IS ZOMBIE SHE CANNOT DIABLE HOLY WATER

*uses holy water on all of the evil zombies*

Hes a zombie hunter basically

And yeah topic is good ><

jayson
05-10-2008, 10:29 AM
*starts remembering to refer to Ka-tet as Scout*

Also why scout?

and now we are back on topic. because Scout is the main character in To Kill a Mockingbird.

Jean
05-10-2008, 10:29 AM
maybe it's time to think of taking the rest of this to that thread
(http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?t=1300)
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mishemplushem/Facilitation/thank_you-1.gif

Ka-tet
05-10-2008, 10:31 AM
*drags zombies into link jean posted and uses holy water on them all*

Jean:thanks for the link

RoG:Not funny -.-

Brice
05-10-2008, 10:31 AM
Yeah, sorry Jean! I got a bit carried away myself. :(

Ka-tet
05-10-2008, 10:33 AM
As did i, beg pardon.

obscurejude
05-10-2008, 10:33 AM
I think we all did Brice, but it was great. :rock:

Ka-Tet is forever "Scout"

"I dub thee, Scout" *places the gun barrel of eld on both of Ka Tet's (Scout's) shoulders*

Ka-tet
05-10-2008, 10:35 AM
-.-

jayson
05-10-2008, 10:36 AM
well my work is done here.

Brice
05-10-2008, 10:40 AM
:lol:

Have I mentioned at all how bad Jane Austen is?

Jean
05-10-2008, 10:53 AM
:lol:

Have I mentioned at all how bad Jane Austen is?
::sighs wearily::

No, you haven't, Brice. Must have forgotten. We're all ears*.

*plugged

Brice
05-10-2008, 10:57 AM
I'll leave her alone I suppose. :)



...or try.

Brice
05-10-2008, 10:58 AM
Actually, there are not many books that I truly dislike.



...that I bother to read.

cozener
05-10-2008, 11:03 AM
Since Matthew will eventually be by to rip my head off I might as well say Wolves of the Calla too. By comparision Song of Susannah is easy to get through in a breezy kinda way.

On the other hand, that could have just been the light blue cover art.

razz
05-11-2008, 08:55 AM
I am surprised noone has said it yet here, but....









The Dark Tower series
*ties Brice to tree surrounded by Ganados*

razz
05-11-2008, 08:56 AM
Since Matthew will eventually be by to rip my head off I might as well say Wolves of the Calla (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?t=948) too.
WotC wasn't bad, it was just slow reading. for me it took a week+ instead of 3- days

Brice
05-11-2008, 09:23 AM
I am surprised noone has said it yet here, but....









The Dark Tower series
*ties Brice to tree surrounded by Ganados*


*wonders what Ganados are* :unsure:

cozener
05-11-2008, 02:23 PM
Since Matthew will eventually be by to rip my head off I might as well say Wolves of the Calla (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?t=948) too.
WotC wasn't bad, it was just slow reading. for me it took a week+ instead of 3- days Ok it wasn't bad per se but to me reading the Dark Tower was like running a 7 mile marathon where everything was going great for the first 4 miles, a nice day to run, beautiful scenery, cool air...then on the 5th mile, just when I'm starting to get into my zone, the day darkens, it gets a little chilly and rainy and the path leads from the beauty of the foothills to miles and miles of flat farmland (albeit with beautifully constructed farmhouses and interestly shaped barns)

HanzouNorak
05-11-2008, 05:52 PM
i fell on my ass and threw up when i first read a star trek book. i love the series, but fan fiction on the part of the writers is horrible.

razz
05-12-2008, 05:18 AM
Ok it wasn't bad per se but to me reading the Dark Tower (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?t=1281) was like running a 7 mile marathon where everything was going great for the first 4 miles, a nice day to run, beautiful scenery, cool air...then on the 5th mile, just when I'm starting to get into my zone, the day darkens, it gets a little chilly and rainy and the path leads from the beauty of the foothills to miles and miles of flat farmland (albeit with beautifully constructed farmhouses and interestly shaped barns)

kinda like the Long walk and you suddendly get a bad rash?

razz
05-20-2008, 05:22 AM
i fell on my ass and threw up when i first read a star trek book. i love the series, but fan fiction on the part of the writers is horrible.


what's truly horrible is their film-comics, where they take photose from the film and create a comic book from an episode

iscream22
05-20-2008, 06:00 AM
Hey! As a kid some of those Goosebumps books were actually pretty cool for what they are. I even saved my two favorites the cuckoo clock of doom, and a night in terror tower.

As for crappy book thats so bad it makes my head want to burst is Great Expectaions, i absolutely despised that book.

razz
05-20-2008, 03:50 PM
i hated them for all eternity. if i HAD to destroy a set of books by any author, i would not hesitate to choose RL stein. but for now i'm just content to keep them out of my house.

Heather19
05-20-2008, 03:52 PM
I used to read RL Stein all the time when I was younger. Never the goosebumps books, those came out after I got too old for them, but the whole fear street series I loved. I think I've still got them all boxed up somewhere.

Erin
05-20-2008, 06:38 PM
Heck yea. RL Stein was one of the authors who really got me interested in reading when I was young. I've got to credit him for that.

These days kids have better things to read like Harry Potter and Stephenie Meyer's stuff, but RL Stein was the big thing for my generation, especially the Fear Street stuff.

razz
05-22-2008, 02:26 PM
i hated him. he should be fillet alive.

fernandito
05-23-2008, 07:26 AM
Hey! As a kid some of those Goosebumps books were actually pretty cool for what they are. I even saved my two favorites the cuckoo clock of doom, and a night in terror tower.


I love Goosebumps books, I still have all the ones that I purchased as a younglin'.

Telynn
05-30-2008, 05:12 PM
RL Stein got little kids to read books when they otherwise would not have. And in some cases, like my son, they went on to read other, better books. But it was COOL to be reading one of those books. It was COOL to be reading a book. That right there means the world.

The Lady of Shadows
05-30-2008, 05:19 PM
i agree. anything that gets a kid to read is a good book. even if it's a total piece of crap. :lol:

razz
05-30-2008, 06:06 PM
true, i suppose, even if it get them to read just because they can't believe a book is that bad, and want to see if they're all like that.

Ves'Ka Gan
06-03-2008, 10:18 PM
I hated "To Kill a Mockingbird". And "The Great Gatsby"
Gatsby was kinda boring, and MOckingbird was plain retarded. aslo, they didn't even teach us how to kill a mockingbird. that's false advertising.

I liked Gatsby, but could see where one may not..but hwo do you hate To Kill A Mockingbird? Love it. Played with the idea of naming a child Atticus, I loved it so much!

As for me, I'll gladly jump on the Scarlet Letter haters bandwagon. I've read it twice...I just don't care. I feel like Hawethorne was trying way to hard with the symbolism and I couldn't relate to a single character in it.

I did however enjoy it both times I saw it on stage...

Fishonabike
06-04-2008, 10:06 AM
I guess it wasn't bad enough to make me anemic, but I could not finish Interview with the Vampire.

Boring! /Homer

Tiffany
06-04-2008, 10:16 AM
The Jungle, by Upton Sinclair.

I was so depressed while reading that.

Daghain
06-04-2008, 11:39 AM
That book is TOTALLY depressing. But I loved it. :)

Ricky
06-04-2008, 05:15 PM
The Jungle, by Upton Sinclair.


After reading that, I suppose that you won't want any sausage? :lol:

Tiffany
06-04-2008, 06:22 PM
The Jungle, by Upton Sinclair.


After reading that, I suppose that you won't want any sausage? :lol:

I didn't eat sausage for quite some time after reading that. And I love sausage. :cry:

Daghain
06-04-2008, 09:02 PM
I did. But I'm mean like that. :lol:

CyberGhostface
06-07-2008, 06:26 PM
i hated him. he should be fillet alive.

Well, gee, I don't think he's so bad that he deserves to be murdered...I mean, I didn't like DT7 and you don't see me wishing death on King.

ZGDK
06-13-2008, 11:12 AM
lets start shall we?
-Goosebumps. as i grew up, every kid was reading the goosebumps books. around fourth grade i started to mention that to kids. They say it's better that what your reading. i hold up a 300 page Crichton Novel. they shut up.

I know how you feel. Goosebumps SUCK big time. I heard it's supposed to be like some kind of choose your own adventure? Or at least that's what some guy told me.

fernandito
06-13-2008, 11:24 AM
lets start shall we?
-Goosebumps. as i grew up, every kid was reading the goosebumps books. around fourth grade i started to mention that to kids. They say it's better that what your reading. i hold up a 300 page Crichton Novel. they shut up.

I know how you feel. Goosebumps SUCK big time. I heard it's supposed to be like some kind of choose your own adventure? Or at least that's what some guy told me.

Goosebumps are books that were written for children. You can't compare Stine's books to Crichton's. Might as well compare Dr. Seuss to Stephen King.

Anyway, I avidly collect(ed) Stine's pre-adult novellas and I still enoy reading them to this day.

razz
06-13-2008, 01:05 PM
i could in fourth grade!

John_and_Yoko
06-13-2008, 01:07 PM
lets start shall we?
-Goosebumps. as i grew up, every kid was reading the goosebumps books. around fourth grade i started to mention that to kids. They say it's better that what your reading. i hold up a 300 page Crichton Novel. they shut up.

I know how you feel. Goosebumps SUCK big time. I heard it's supposed to be like some kind of choose your own adventure? Or at least that's what some guy told me.

Give Yourself Goosebumps is a choose your own adventure type. Regular Goosebumps is not.

And as feverishparade said, they were aimed at children, not adults.

CyberGhostface
06-13-2008, 01:48 PM
Right. They aren't classics by any means necessary, but I enjoyed them as well when I was younger. They didn't prevent me from going onto adult books later on either. (I stopped reading Goosebumps in 4th grade, read Dracula in I *think* 5th and started reading Stephen King in 6th.)

razz
06-13-2008, 01:52 PM
i myself never read Dracula until 2 years ago. i couldn't pay attention.

Heather19
06-13-2008, 02:33 PM
Goosebumps are books that were written for children. You can't compare Stine's books to Crichton's. Might as well compare Dr. Seuss to Stephen King.

Anyway, I avidly collect(ed) Stine's pre-adult novellas and I still enoy reading them to this day.

I agree. I grew up on his fear street books, and still have them boxed up somewhere in the basement. I don't think I'll part with them anytime soon, even though I haven't read them in ages.
Unfortunately I never read and of the Goosebumps books though, they didn't come out till I was a little older, but I wish they had been out when I was really young.

ZGDK
06-25-2008, 10:18 AM
I decided to take the worst SK book one step further. To you what's the worst book OF ALL TIME? Two words: Huckleberry Finn. I'm sure there's a good story under there but it's not worth the time decoding the "dialect".

Daghain
06-25-2008, 11:09 AM
There's already a similar thread here (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?t=2781). I'm sure someone will come along and merge them. :)

ZGDK
06-25-2008, 11:51 AM
Dammit, I always copy threads :( I wish we could delete our own posts.

Daghain
06-25-2008, 11:54 AM
No worries. It's easy enough to merge them. :)

Jean
06-25-2008, 12:01 PM
There's already a similar thread here (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?t=2781). I'm sure someone will come along and merge them. :)
someone did
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mishemplushem/Facilitation/0134-bear.gif

(and Huckleberry Finn is one of my favorite books ever)

Daghain
06-25-2008, 12:04 PM
Thanks Jean! :wub:

jayson
06-25-2008, 12:18 PM
So long as Dean Koontz is still writing books nothing by Mark Twain could be the worst book ever.

ZGDK
06-25-2008, 03:12 PM
It's not that it's bad writing it just didn't appeal to me, I couldn't relate to the book.

obscurejude
06-25-2008, 07:01 PM
It's not that it's bad writing it just didn't appeal to me, I couldn't relate to the book.

I really think you should have some better criteria for judgment before stating that something is the worst book every written. Hyperbole doesn't even begin to describe such a statement.

razz
06-25-2008, 07:02 PM
As i said before, The Great Gatsby should win that award.

AIMB
06-25-2008, 10:00 PM
So long as Dean Koontz is still writing books nothing by Mark Twain could be the worst book ever.

This thread = funny

ZGDK
06-26-2008, 04:22 AM
It's not that it's bad writing it just didn't appeal to me, I couldn't relate to the book.

I really think you should have some better criteria for judgment before stating that something is the worst book every written. Hyperbole doesn't even begin to describe such a statement.

I guess I should rephrase what I said. It's not the worst book but it's one of my least favorites.

stone, rose, unfound door
07-04-2008, 03:35 PM
I really like Jane Austen's books, although I kinda got bored sometimes while reading Sense and Sensibility. I also really liked The Scarlet Letter.
If I should recommend someone not to read, it would be Diderot. Both "Le supplément au voyage de Bougainville" (I don't know its title in english) and "Le neveu de Rameau" (don't know its english title either) almost got me to sleep even though they're like 80 pages each...

Sam
07-04-2008, 04:26 PM
Member of the Wedding
Nathaniel Hawthorne
James Fenimore Cooper
Ernest Hemingway
That'll do for now.

Jean
07-04-2008, 09:03 PM
If I should recommend someone not to read, it would be Diderot. Both "Le supplément au voyage de Bougainville" (I don't know its title in english) and "Le neveu de Rameau" (don't know its english title either) almost got me to sleep even though they're like 80 pages each...
ditto

Brice
07-05-2008, 05:49 AM
I've never heard of Diderot.

All the comments about Hawthorne make me sad. :( I really like his writing alot.

obscurejude
07-05-2008, 10:16 AM
I'm surprised that Brice hasn't mentioned Aristotle's Nichomachean Ethics in this thread. :lol:

jayson
07-05-2008, 10:42 AM
Member of the Wedding


I remember reading that one in 8th grade English. I remember very little about it, but vaguely remember not liking it all that much.


Nathaniel Hawthorne
Ernest Hemingway

Agree with both of those. Hemingway bores me to tears, and Hawthorne, well he must have been paid by the word because he uses far too many of them. Sorry Brice :(

bluelph24
07-05-2008, 06:00 PM
The Frozen Journey

mia/susannah
07-05-2008, 06:45 PM
I never cared for Hemingway. I do like some of Koontz though.

obscurejude
07-05-2008, 09:28 PM
Member of the Wedding


I remember reading that one in 8th grade English. I remember very little about it, but vaguely remember not liking it all that much.


Nathaniel Hawthorne
Ernest Hemingway

Agree with both of those. Hemingway bores me to tears, and Hawthorne, well he must have been paid by the word because he uses far too many of them. Sorry Brice :(

I know! I had a Colonial Lit seminar two semesters ago and the professor's specialty is Early American. Anyways, he raved and raved about how The Scarlet Letter was the most important American novel. Many valid points, and I think I agree with him to an extent, but I could not get into it and I love Puritan literature (huge Jonathan Edwards fan). I wrote two research papers on Puritan epistemology and how that informed their literary philosophy, but I could not read that pillar of American culture. Its good to hear Jayson complain because I really respect his opinions and I was afraid I was the only one. :lol:

Jean
07-05-2008, 10:35 PM
All the comments about Hawthorne make me sad. :( I really like his writing alot.
and thus spoke the man who finds Jane Austen boring! http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mishemplushem/Facilitation/bear_shocked.gif

Brice
07-05-2008, 11:02 PM
I'm surprised that Brice hasn't mentioned Aristotle's Nichomachean Ethics in this thread. :lol:

I'd have to read it before I can hate it. :lol: Hmm...maybe we have a copy somewhere around here.




All the comments about Hawthorne make me sad. :( I really like his writing alot.
and thus spoke the man who finds Jane Austen boring! http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mishemplushem/Facilitation/bear_shocked.gif

I'll concede Hawthorne is a bit wordy. Austen is simply horrendous though. If she were as wordy as Hawthorne I'd have suicided (and if possible come back and done the same a few more times) before I finished the first paragraph in...oh, any one of her books. To be honest though I much prefer Hawthorne's short stories to his novels though. I like his stories, but he is best in small doses.

Sam
07-05-2008, 11:08 PM
My problem with Hawthorne is that while some of his writing contains compelling and enthralling stories, you have to sort through the dreck to get to them. I understand that it is part of the style that was used then, but I have little to thank the Puritans for as it is. I think Hawthorne is one writer whose works could do for some rewriting by a modern storyteller. Perhaps then students everywhere would enjoy the work. As for The Scarlet Letter being the single most important novel in American literature, I disagree. I find it less important than The Mouse and The Motorcyle. (That's a children's book for those that don't remember.) I would argue that some of King's works have portrayed a representation of our America that paints as accurate a picture as Hawthorne's did of his world. And King's was more fun to read. A more compelling story too.

obscurejude
07-06-2008, 12:44 AM
As for The Scarlet Letter being the single most important novel in American literature, I disagree.

Disagree with what? I didn't even state the argument.

Sam
07-06-2008, 05:21 PM
I never said you did.

Daghain
07-06-2008, 06:01 PM
All the comments about Hawthorne make me sad. :( I really like his writing alot.
and thus spoke the man who finds Jane Austen boring! http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mishemplushem/Facilitation/bear_shocked.gif

Amen, brother!

Sam
07-06-2008, 07:32 PM
But Jane Austin IS boring. I got your back here Brice

Daghain
07-06-2008, 07:42 PM
:P

razz
07-06-2008, 07:44 PM
i'm trying to work up the courage to read Mein Kampf. should i, or will i be branded as a nazi the moment i go the the check-out desk?

Daghain
07-06-2008, 07:45 PM
I've been thinking about reading it too. But I heard it's really hard to follow.

Hitler being a nutcase, and all. :)

Jean
07-06-2008, 10:04 PM
I just wouldn't recommend it. It is a spectacularly bad piece of literature. Boring, drab, utterly uninspired.

and, razz: if you take it together with a couple of books on history of the same period, for example, memoirs of survivors of the camps, it shouldn't raise any questions at all. Besides, you should gather as much historical context as you can anyway, or else the reading would be a total waste of time.

razz
07-06-2008, 10:27 PM
oh i know a lot about the time. I've probably checked out most of the books about that era. and i'm no nazi or anything but i will get pissed and stand up for the National Socialist party when someone says some stereotypical cliche about them.

It is a spectacularly bad piece of literature. Boring, drab, utterly uninspired.
well yeah. he was a hobo that caused his girlfriend to kill herself. the only person who could pull inspiration out of his ass after that is Poe.

Jean
07-06-2008, 10:33 PM
interesting view on Poe and his ass... also, I wouldn't really advise you to "stand up" for NDSAP for whatever reason in the presence of a Russian... though we might discuss it in some other thread some day

Brice
07-07-2008, 05:31 AM
But Jane Austin IS boring. I got your back here Brice

:thumbsup:

I couldn't even bein to list the things I'd rather do then reading Jane Austen. It would be far from decent. :lol:


I just wouldn't recommend it. It is a spectacularly bad piece of literature. Boring, drab, utterly uninspired.

and, razz: if you take it together with a couple of books on history of the same period, for example, memoirs of survivors of the camps, it shouldn't raise any questions at all. Besides, you should gather as much historical context as you can anyway, or else the reading would be a total waste of time.

Bolded for trueness. :D I'd say here we agree 100% on what is boring Jean. And all you said about it still might be a great understatement. I'd say the only valid reason for reading it is for historical context (i.e: a particular interest or study of the holocaust, or the world war, etc...). If you're reading it out of mere curiosity I doubt you can make it through it.

And there is no worthwhile reason to stand up for the National Socialists, NDSAP, Nazis, or whatever you choose to call them. My personal favorite term for them is rascist fucks.

Daghain
07-07-2008, 09:02 AM
There are a LOT of good books on the social history of the time - I have a list about a mile long, and I own several. I find them quite interesting as a whole, but I have some weird fascination with the social history of Nazi Germany.

That said, I really can't bring myself to read Mein Kampf. I've thought about it, but that's about as far as it goes.

jayson
07-07-2008, 09:05 AM
I read it once. As a Jew I felt compelled to read it. I agree with Jean that it is an exercise in boredom. There are far more compelling books dealing with all sides of that period of history.

Sam
07-08-2008, 07:43 PM
I couldn't even bein to list the things I'd rather do then reading Jane Austen. It would be far from decent. :lol:


I, on the other hand, CAN begin to list them. The list starts with carving heiroglyphics from long dead civilizations into my left big toe.

fernandito
07-09-2008, 06:38 AM
Razz - I want to read that book too, so I say go for it.

I have a deep fascination with anything-World War II, I even read The Rise and Fall of The Third Reich, some 2,500+ pages.

razz
07-09-2008, 07:46 AM
The Rise and Fall of The Third Reich
i think i read that. not sure

Matticus-Finch
07-11-2008, 09:42 AM
Can we all just agree that Dean Koontz sucks balls?

Wait, is that considered a spoiler?

obscurejude
07-11-2008, 10:01 PM
Can we all just agree that Dean Koontz sucks balls?

Wait, is that considered a spoiler?

:lol:

I agree Matticus. major balls

razz
07-12-2008, 09:08 AM
while i agree with you in most places, i continue to stand by my opinion that "The Watchers" was a good read

obscurejude
07-12-2008, 11:24 PM
while i agree with you in most places, i continue to stand by my opinion that "The Watchers" was a good read

You may be right sir, I haven't read that one. I was simply jumping at the chance to:

say major balls in a spoiler

Matticus-Finch
07-13-2008, 12:13 PM
:rofl:

Daghain
07-13-2008, 07:28 PM
*snort*

:lol:

fernandito
07-13-2008, 08:22 PM
I haven't read anything by Koontz yet, although the Odd Thomas series does have a hold (albeit loose) on my interest.

stone, rose, unfound door
07-14-2008, 02:35 PM
I've never heard of Diderot.

He's like one of the most important French philosophers from the XVIIIth century which led to, as you may know, the French Revolution. I'm quite astonished that you've never even heard of him... You may have heard of The Encyclopediae, at least, haven't you? He was one of the two people who started this huge project, the other one being D'Alembert. He is boring as hell, but he's still such a monument of Western philosophy I thought everyone knew about him!

If you want to know some more, go check this wikipedia link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis_Diderot

stone, rose, unfound door
07-14-2008, 02:38 PM
All the comments about Hawthorne make me sad. :( I really like his writing alot.

Don't worry Brice, I love what Hawthorne wrote too! You don't need anyone else to agree! :)

Rider_of_Discordia
07-14-2008, 03:38 PM
The thing that gets me with Jane Austin isn't anything to do with her characters, who can be wonderful, or her writing style, which is quite sparky and punchy for a "classic" writer ... its I can not be bothered with all the social conventions wrapped up in her novels. I know she is making some subtle and clever commentary on the society of her day, but I can't be bothered with it all. It doesn't relate to me on a personal level, so maybe its me thats at fault! I have never worried about my social station or any of that "blah" ... so I can't get worked up over someone elses worries in that regard. I spent most of Pride and Predjudice saying "Oh get over yourselves!!!" to the characters in the book. Finally some of them did, which was a massive relief.

Ves'Ka Gan
07-17-2008, 10:03 AM
I am very interested in WWII history and literaure and the neo-Nazis and their subculture. So it seemed natural for me to read Mein Kampf. It is horrible. In addition to the fact that it is obviously something he dictated and soemone typed as he spoke (which is very hard to read) he rambles on, talks in circles and rarely makes sense.

And although I wasn't immediately branded a racist when I bought it, I did end up having a very interesting exchange with a a very large, intimidating skinhead and his father, who was trying to convince me to read about 30 books on the Civil War and take a visit to the Confederate White House.

razz
07-17-2008, 11:46 AM
where IS the confederate whitehouse?

B Rag
07-26-2008, 06:45 PM
Both of the ones I can think of have already been mentioned:
The Jungle - I probably would have been more depressed if I had been able to make myself read all of it. This book was required for my Junior English class, but I doubt that a third of us read it. I think I read about 9 pages (not in a row).
The Great Gatsby - Quite boring, but at least it was short. It was required for my Sophmore English class. I was, however, able to make it better by picturing Gatsby as Gomez Addams.




Oh, and Goosebumps ruled. :D

Jean
08-01-2008, 05:18 AM
just saw a Joyce reference in another thread, and remember a book perfectly fit for an honorary mention here: Ulysses.

Brice
08-09-2008, 12:13 PM
:0 You don't like Joyce, Jean? :cry:


*dies*

gsvec
08-09-2008, 02:17 PM
I was wandering around through photobucket and found this . . . even tho it's sai King, I'm sure this one would make me snooze! :lol: :rofl:

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa193/Stevie280/photo6.jpg

alinda
08-09-2008, 02:19 PM
personally I believe that someone would buy his shopping list...:lol:

Brice
08-09-2008, 02:30 PM
I was wandering around through photobucket and found this . . . even tho it's sai King, I'm sure this one would make me snooze! :lol: :rofl:

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa193/Stevie280/photo6.jpg


Pfttttttt! If It were just a limited edition you'd be all over it. :lol:

Brice
08-09-2008, 02:31 PM
personally I believe that someone would buy his shopping list...:lol:


I think King made that same joke before. Looks like someone took it to the extreme. :D

gsvec
08-09-2008, 02:48 PM
[Pfttttttt! If It were just a limited edition you'd be all over it. :lol:

Shhhhh.....:wtf:

jayson
08-09-2008, 03:29 PM
I was wandering around through photobucket and found this . . . even tho it's sai King, I'm sure this one would make me snooze! :lol: :rofl:

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa193/Stevie280/photo6.jpg


Pfttttttt! If It were just a limited edition you'd be all over it. :lol:

And I'd be looking for any mistakes in it :P

Brice
08-09-2008, 03:33 PM
:lol:

Jean
08-09-2008, 09:18 PM
:0 You don't like Joyce, Jean? :cry:


*dies*
did I sound like I don't like him? I absolutely hate him.

Brice
08-09-2008, 10:05 PM
:0 You don't like Joyce, Jean? :cry:


*dies*
did I sound like I don't like him? I absolutely hate him.


:cry: But why?


*dies again*

*...and again and again*

stone, rose, unfound door
08-19-2008, 02:12 PM
Don't die Brice! I'll still be with you to support you... or maybe I should die too??

Bluenose
08-23-2008, 10:52 AM
I've gone through ten pages and I didnt see one reference to David Eddings....

The last one of his I read (elder gods, I think, I probably still have it, couldnt bring myself to throw it away) I could only read two pages at a time.

There's about a month wasted when I could have been reading a better book.

razz
08-23-2008, 10:56 AM
never heard ofhim. that's probabaly a good thing

Bluenose
08-23-2008, 11:01 AM
you're really lucky :) he wrote the Belgariad, and it sold. So he rewrote it, pretty much word for word, made that the central premise of the story, retitled it the Mallorean and sold another shitload.

There's no justice.

Daghain
08-24-2008, 06:36 PM
I think DBF reads a lot of his stuff. Which is probably why I've never picked it up. We don't have the same taste in books 99.9% of the time. :lol:

Jean
08-24-2008, 09:34 PM
:0 You don't like Joyce, Jean? :cry:


*dies*
I am so sorry... http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mishemplushem/Facilitation/bear_sad.gif

No, I don't like Joyce. I don't like any book that is not entertaining. My idea of entertainment is pretty wide: J.L.Borges or Umberto Eco or - yes, Jane Austen! - easily fit there along with Sai King... but I find Joyce boring, pointless, unable to create characters one could sympathize with or remember once he, with a sigh relief, closes the book; totally lacking any sence of humor (which would be overlookable in a short story, but not in a novel of such length; if it is a novel, which I doubt); and written with special intent to astound critics with a New Way of Writing Great Literature, while not giving a fuck about the reader. I also consider stream-of-consciousness the cheapest device ever known in literature - no wonder it is so popular among the amateurish/beginning writers. It's easy and looks just like the Real Literature, something critics might like.

lipgloss_and_revolver
08-25-2008, 12:51 AM
If I say Twilight, will I be stoned to death?

Jean
08-25-2008, 01:04 AM
I don't know what Twilight is, but I am positive that nobody has been, or is ever going to be, stoned for expressing their opinion here!
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mishemplushem/Facilitation/0134-bear.gifhttp://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mishemplushem/Facilitation/0134-bear.gifhttp://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mishemplushem/Facilitation/0134-bear.gif

bluelph24
08-25-2008, 08:32 AM
If I say Twilight, will I be stoned to death?

hey, the mere thought of reading those books makes me anemic.
in other words, no stoning on my part

stone, rose, unfound door
08-25-2008, 02:44 PM
Well, Twilight is aimed at teens so if you're older than 16 and not a girl, you shouldn't even have chosen to read it in the first place. You're the one to blame for having read it when there are so many other books you could have chosen.

bluelph24
08-25-2008, 03:09 PM
well, i'm a 17 yr old guy, and i mainly dislike those books (and any other teen fiction) because i find teen fiction incredably pretentious. I can stand only so much of it before i want to vomit. The amount i can stand in Twilight is, i would have to say, about half of a sentence, but let me check that....*goes to amazon to read an excerpt*...... yes, half a sentence.


stupid whiney vampire teenagers. VAMPIRES SHOULDN"T WHINE! Dracula didn't, Barlowe didn't. damn!

Daghain
08-25-2008, 07:01 PM
Well, Twilight is aimed at teens so if you're older than 16 and not a girl, you shouldn't even have chosen to read it in the first place. You're the one to blame for having read it when there are so many other books you could have chosen.


well, i'm a 17 yr old guy, and i mainly dislike those books (and any other teen fiction) because i find teen fiction incredably pretentious. I can stand only so much of it before i want to vomit. The amount i can stand in Twilight is, i would have to say, about half of a sentence, but let me check that....*goes to amazon to read an excerpt*...... yes, half a sentence.


stupid whiney vampire teenagers. VAMPIRES SHOULDN"T WHINE! Dracula didn't, Barlowe didn't. damn!

Well, I have to disagree with both those statements. I took an Adolescent Lit class in college, and discovered there are some really excellent authors out there. You do not need to be a teenager to enjoy books aimed at teens, nor are books aimed at teens meant only for teens. A really good book can transcend age barriers and be enjoyed by a lot of people. Or, it could be a really bad book and be hated by a lot of people. :)

Authors such as Laurie Halse Anderson, Lois Lowry, and David Klass have written some very good books aimed at teens that adults can also enjoy, just like many teenagers read authors such as Charles Dickens and John Irving, which one could reasonably assume are "adult" books. The Harry Potter series is about the best example I can think of - it appeals to all ages.

I haven't started the Twilight series yet, but I intend to. I'll have to reserve my opinion on that specific series until I actually read it, but, just like books aimed at an adult audience, not everyone is going to like the same thing. Some people actually hate Stephen King! :panic:

lipgloss_and_revolver
08-25-2008, 11:24 PM
Well, Twilight is aimed at teens so if you're older than 16 and not a girl, you shouldn't even have chosen to read it in the first place. You're the one to blame for having read it when there are so many other books you could have chosen.


I'm a little older than 16. *ahem* LOL
I only managed to read the first book, fortunately. That's the result of boredom and curiosity. :D



VAMPIRES SHOULDN"T WHINE! Dracula didn't, Barlowe didn't. damn!
And vampires shouldn't dazzle. Eeek.

Bluenose
08-28-2008, 09:01 AM
Yeah but Louis and Lestat did, and while Angel brooded, a lot of authors mistake that for whinning and think thats what vampires do.

To quote Wesley "I love you so much I almost forgot to brood!"

IWasSentWest
10-19-2008, 06:58 PM
Hinterland by James Clemens

i bought the first two books bc the plot sounded half decent. couldnt finish half of the first bc the story was just painful. i hate when the main character is supposed to be some awesome hero, but instead it is obvious that he is dumb as a brick.

Dragonlance books. They seem to be written for little kids

Don't shoot me, but the middle parts of Wizard and Glass dragged on forever. I fell asleep so many times tryin to get through them