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Still Servant
09-22-2019, 04:16 PM
Welcome to the 2020 Oscar Contest!

The Rules

Oscar night is right around the corner, so I'm going to post the rules for those who might not be familiar with them. Please tell your friends from other boards to come on over and join us. The more the merrier.

You have until showtime on February 9, 2020.

IMPORTANT: Don't forget the tie breaker. It's simple: Basically, everybody will submit their choices like usual, except they will also add which film they think will win the most Oscars and give a number. In case of a tie, whomever has the closest number without going over is the winner. If the tie remains, the person who submits their ballot earliest is the winner.

Predictions have to be in by showtime, so there is no rush to post them. We still have some time before Oscar night. I myself will be waiting for the last possible moment to post my predictions.

Remember, these are just educated guesses. None of us have seen every film nominated and I doubt if anybody has seen any of the documentary short subject nominees. Just make an educated guess. Or an uneducated guess.

Returning this year:

Returning this year will be the online ballot submission I created. Of course, ballots can still be submitted here.

Where it says "name" just put your DT.org handle, or designate in some way that you are from the Dark Tower boards. I will be sharing the same contest form with other friends and I don't want to get them confused.

https://tinyurl.com/OscarContest2020
(https://tinyurl.com/OscarContest2020)
And the nominees are!

Best Picture

1917
Ford v Ferrari
The Irishman
Jojo Rabbit
Joker
Little Women
Marriage Story
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Parasite

Actor in a Leading Role

Antonio Banderas - Pain and Glory
Leonardo DiCaprio - Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Adam Driver - Marriage Story
Joaquin Phoenix - Joker
Jonathan Pryce - The Two Popes

Actress in a Leading Role

Cynthia Erivo - Harriet
Scarlett Johansson - Marriage Story
Saoirse Ronan - Little Women
Charlize Theron - Bombshell
Renée Zellweger - Judy

Actress in a Supporting Role

Kathy Bates - Richard Jewell
Laura Dern - Marriage Story
Scarlett Johansson - Jojo Rabbit
Florence Pugh - Little Women
Margot Robbie - Bombshell

Actor in a Supporting Role

Tom Hanks - A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood
Anthony Hopkins - The Two Popes
Al Pacino - The Irishman
Joe Pesci - The Irishman
Brad Pitt - Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Directing

Bong Joon Ho - Parasite
Sam Mendes - 1917
Todd Phillips - Joker
Martin Scorsese - The Irishman
Quentin Tarantino - Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Adapted Screenplay

The Irishman
Jojo Rabbit
Joker
Little Women
The Two Popes

Original Screenplay

1917
Knives Out
Marriage Story
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Parasite

International Feature Film

Corpus Christi
Honeyland
Les Miserables
Pain and Glory
Parasite

Production Design

1917
The Irishman
Jojo Rabbit
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Parasite

Film Editing

Ford v Ferrari
The Irishman
Jojo Rabbit
Joker
Parasite

Cinematography

1917
The Irishman
Joker
The Lighthouse
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Visual Effects

1917
Avengers: Endgame
The Irishman
The Lion King
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

Costume Design

Jojo Rabbit
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
The Irishman
Joker
Little Women

Sound Mixing

1917
Ad Astra
Ford v Ferrari
Joker
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Sound Editing

1917
Ford v Ferrari
Joker
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

Original Score

1917
Joker
Little Women
Marriage Story
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

Documentary Feature

American Factory
The Cave
The Edge of Democracy
For Sama
Honeyland

Documentary Short Subject

In the Absence
Learning to Skateboard in a Warzone (If You’re a Girl)
Life Overtakes Me
St. Louis Superman
Walk Run Cha-Cha

Makeup and Hairstyling

1917
Bombshell
Joker
Judy
Maleficent: Mistress of Evil

Animated Feature Film

How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World
I Lost My Body
Klaus
Missing Link
Toy Story 4

Animated Short Film

Dcera (Daughter)
Hair Love
Kitbull
Memorable
Sister

Live-Action Short Film

Brotherhood
Nefta Football Club
The Neighbors’ Window
Saria
A Sister

Original Song

"I Can't Let You Throw Yourself Away" - Toy Story 4
"(I'm Gonna) Love Me Again" - Rocketman
"I'm Standing With You" - Breakthrough
"Into the Unknown" - Frozen 2
"Stand Up" - Harriet


*****

Past results:

2010 results
Heather - 15
Servant - 14
Turtlex - 14
Cody - 8
Seymour - 8
Odetta - 4

2011 results
Heather - 17
Servant - 15
Path - 14
Mattrick - 14
Ricky - 12
Merlin - 11
Feev - 8

2012 results
Servant - 14
Heather - 14
Ricky - 14
Stockerlone - 12
Shannon - 11
Thorin- 10
Mattrick - 9
Feev - 8
Garrell - 8
Odetta - 5
Mystima - 4

2013 results
Heather - 20
Servant - 17
Ricky - 15
Matt - 14
Stockerlone - 13
Feev - 12
Mae - 10

2014 results
Heather - 22
Ricky - 20
Servant - 19
Randall - 16
Mae - 13
Matt - 10
Mystima - 10
Merlin - 7
Stockerlone - 6

2015 results
T-Dogz - 20
George Monkey - 19
Lurker - 19
Ricky - 18
Servant - 17
Feev - 17
Heather - 15
Shannon - 15
Mae - 13
Stocker - 9
Matt - 6

2016 results
Heather - 17 (winner by tiebreaker - Mad Max 6)
Servant - 17
Mae - 16
T-Dogz - 16
Ricky - 15
Matt - 15
Lurker - 14
Stocker - 8

2017 results
TDogz - 16 (winner by tiebreaker)
Doc Z - 16
Tommy - 16
Ricky - 15
Lurker - 15
Servant - 15
Heather - 14
Mae -14
Matt - 13
RF - 13
Stocker - 8
Merlin - 7

2018 results
Randall Flagg - 21 (Tiebreaker - The Shape of Water 4) Co-winner
Lurker - 21 (Tiebreaker - The Shape of Water 4) Co-winner
T-Dogz - 20
Servant - 20
Matt - 19
Mae - 19
Heather - 17
John Huerta - 16
Ricky -13
Doctor Zaius - 10

2019 results
Servant - 18
Lurker - 15
Matt - 15
T-Dogz - 15
Mae - 14
Heather - 13
Ricky - 12
Garrell -12
Randall - 9
Stocker - 6

mae
09-22-2019, 05:39 PM
Yay finally!

Okay this is super early and highly speculative, but here are what I imagine at this point the ten Best Picture noms could be, and yeah I know we never get ten but still:


A Hidden Life
Avengers: Endgame
Booksmart
Hustlers
Joker
Marriage Story
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Parasite
Portrait of a Lady on Fire
The Farewell

Still Servant
09-22-2019, 06:32 PM
Yay finally!

Okay this is super early and highly speculative, but here are what I imagine at this point the ten Best Picture noms could be, and yeah I know we never get ten but still:


A Hidden Life
Avengers: Endgame
Booksmart
Hustlers
Joker
Marriage Story
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Parasite
Portrait of a Lady on Fire
The Farewell


Solid list. You might be spot on with Endgame. The Academy wants to get ratings and what better way than to nominate the biggest film of the year. Hustlers is getting a lot of buzz, but it doesn't feel like a Best Picture film to me. I love Booksmart, but I think it came out too early. I think Jojo Rabbit is almost a lock for a nomination. It won the top prize at the Toronto International Film Festival, which is becoming a good Best Picture predictor. Green Book won it last year and La La Land before it.

Here's my list:



Knives Out
Avengers: Endgame
Jojo Rabbit
The Irishman
Joker
Marriage Story
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Parasite
Portrait of a Lady on Fire
The Farewell

mae
09-22-2019, 06:43 PM
True, Hustlers is a longshot, but I would love it if the Academy spiced things up. There are plenty of choices this year, some we still know very little about like The Irishman or Little Women or 1917. I hope the Academy keeps Booksmart in mind like they did with Get Out. And Booksmart came out in May, while Get Out came out in February. Jojo is certainly a good choice too, we'll see. I'm not sure about Knives Out, sure it's getting lots of praise but it seems like a Clue remake.

Still Servant
09-24-2019, 04:16 AM
True, Hustlers is a longshot, but I would love it if the Academy spiced things up. There are plenty of choices this year, some we still know very little about like The Irishman or Little Women or 1917. I hope the Academy keeps Booksmart in mind like they did with Get Out. And Booksmart came out in May, while Get Out came out in February. Jojo is certainly a good choice too, we'll see. I'm not sure about Knives Out, sure it's getting lots of praise but it seems like a Clue remake.

The main reason I put Knives out there is that it seems like it's going to be a crowd pleasing film like Green Book was last year. They are both different, but the thing that Green Book had going for it was how wide the demographic for the film was. Same with Knives Out.

webstar1000
09-24-2019, 04:44 AM
Yay finally!

Okay this is super early and highly speculative, but here are what I imagine at this point the ten Best Picture noms could be, and yeah I know we never get ten but still:


A Hidden Life
Avengers: Endgame
Booksmart
Hustlers
Joker
Marriage Story
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Parasite
Portrait of a Lady on Fire
The Farewell


Solid list. You might be spot on with Endgame. The Academy wants to get ratings and what better way than to nominate the biggest film of the year. Hustlers is getting a lot of buzz, but it doesn't feel like a Best Picture film to me. I love Booksmart, but I think it came out too early. I think Jojo Rabbit is almost a lock for a nomination. It won the top prize at the Toronto International Film Festival, which is becoming a good Best Picture predictor. Green Book won it last year and La La Land before it.

Here's my list:



Knives Out
Avengers: Endgame
Jojo Rabbit
The Irishman
Joker
Marriage Story
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Parasite
Portrait of a Lady on Fire
The Farewell


Can I ask why movies are on here that you have not viewed yet?

PS: I had to turn Parasite off. I found it so boring.

mae
09-24-2019, 06:03 AM
Speaking just for myself, like I said in my initial post, this is just speculation, this is what I think the nominations could potentially be. I've only included films that have been released (maybe only at festivals) and reviewed by critics, so I'm basing their BP potential on that plus their trailer and just what the film feels like overall to me, even if I haven't seen it yet. No one has seen The Irishman or Little Women yet, but some critics are already putting those in the running based simply on their potential. We won't know of course until end of the year really, once these movies all come out, buit it's still fun to speculate, and to see how wildly off I was in September.

DanHocker
09-24-2019, 06:07 AM
Do you guys really think Avengers: Endgame and Joker will get a nomination? My guess is it'll be one or the other, and I'm leaning towards Joker because it sounds like it's more artsy. Don't get me wrong I love Endgame, but I'm just not sure it's good enough for best picture. Especially since it doesn't really stand on it's own. Without the context of the 10 years of movies before it, it's not really as good. That said I haven't seen enough of the movies that would be nominated to make an educated guess for the Oscars this year.

mae
09-24-2019, 06:11 AM
I think there's a good chance. They may want to acknowledge their accomplishment, both at the box-office with this installment but just for the MCU as a whole and how it ties everything together. But it's also just a great film on its own, it's got a 4.1/5 on Letterboxd. I wouldn't be surprised if it's not nominated, but it should be. Once we see the fall and winter movies like The Irishman and Little Women, it might well fall out of the Top Ten BP picks for me. Closer to the actual nominations I'll post an updated Top 10.

DanHocker
09-24-2019, 06:15 AM
I think there's a good chance. They may want to acknowledge their accomplishment, both at the box-office with this installment but just for the MCU as a whole and how it ties everything together. But it's also just a great film on its own, it's got a 4.1/5 on Letterboxd. I wouldn't be surprised if it's not nominated, but it should be.

Mostly I just don't think they're going to nominate two comic book movies. So I think it'd either be Joker or Endgame. The only other Marvel movie to be nominated was Black Panther right? I think Disney campaigned pretty hard for that too. I wonder if they'll put as much effort into Endgame.

Still Servant
09-24-2019, 03:34 PM
Can I ask why movies are on here that you have not viewed yet?

PS: I had to turn Parasite off. I found it so boring.

We are just going off of what the buzz surrounding these films is generating. Before the baseball season, people predict who is going to play in the World Series. This is no different.

Where did you get to see Parasite? Did you steal it off of the internet?

webstar1000
09-24-2019, 03:38 PM
Can I ask why movies are on here that you have not viewed yet?

PS: I had to turn Parasite off. I found it so boring.

We are just going off of what the buzz surrounding these films is generating. Before the baseball season, people predict who is going to play in the World Series. This is no different.

Where did you get to see Parasite? Did you steal it off of the internet?

Got ya. Was curious how you picked them.

I did get the copy off the Internet of Parasite as there is no theatres for 1500klm that showed it near me. I also did not like it at all...



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Still Servant
09-24-2019, 03:40 PM
Can I ask why movies are on here that you have not viewed yet?

PS: I had to turn Parasite off. I found it so boring.

We are just going off of what the buzz surrounding these films is generating. Before the baseball season, people predict who is going to play in the World Series. This is no different.

Where did you get to see Parasite? Did you steal it off of the internet?

Got ya. Was curious how you picked them.

I did get the copy off the Internet of Parasite as there is no theatres for 1500klm that showed it near me. I also did not like it at all...


You're not a big Asian Cinema guy though, are you?

Have you seen any of Bong Joon-ho's other films like Snowpiercer or The Host? Parasite leans closer to Memories of Murder and Mother I'm guessing.

webstar1000
09-24-2019, 03:42 PM
Can I ask why movies are on here that you have not viewed yet?

PS: I had to turn Parasite off. I found it so boring.

We are just going off of what the buzz surrounding these films is generating. Before the baseball season, people predict who is going to play in the World Series. This is no different.

Where did you get to see Parasite? Did you steal it off of the internet?

Got ya. Was curious how you picked them.

I did get the copy off the Internet of Parasite as there is no theatres for 1500klm that showed it near me. I also did not like it at all...


You're not a big Asian Cinema guy though, are you?

Have you seen any of Bong Joon-ho's other films like Snowpiercer or The Host? Parasite leans closer to Memories of Murder and Mother I'm guessing.

Loved Snowpiercer. I also liked Host. I would say not a huge Asian Cinema guy but def seen some beauties from them.


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mae
09-24-2019, 03:46 PM
I got very slight hints of Burning, too, at least from the trailer.

mae
09-24-2019, 04:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcvoEe2Pang
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm4Fu5hG3QM

Just some food for thought, never seen these guys before, but a pretty good outlook. Still, 21 picks for Best Picture and no Hustlers or Booksmart?

Still Servant
09-24-2019, 04:33 PM
I got very slight hints of Burning, too, at least from the trailer.

Me too! And you know how much I loved that one.

mae
09-27-2019, 04:14 PM
Sounds like The Irishman is the real deal:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gEsupIFD9s

Still Servant
09-28-2019, 05:22 PM
I'm trying to stay away from reviews etc., but I heard it's 3 and a half hours long. Is that true?

mae
09-28-2019, 06:17 PM
Yes and there are no spoilers.

Still Servant
09-30-2019, 04:35 PM
Yes and there are no spoilers.

Thank you.

It's not really about spoilers, I'm trying to go into as many movies as I can knowing absolutely nothing. It's hard because I love talking about movies, but it's worked nicely for a few films like Ready or Not and Midsommar.

mae
10-07-2019, 03:59 PM
https://deadline.com/2019/10/oscars-international-feature-film-contenders-93-countries-1202754361/

The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences has released the full list of countries that have submitted a pic for consideration for the new International Feature Film Oscar category.

Here are the 93 nations and their hopefuls, in alphabetical order:

Albania, The Delegation, Bujar Alimani, director;
Algeria, Papicha, Mounia Meddour, director;
Argentina, Heroic Losers, Sebastián Borensztein, director;
Armenia, Lengthy Night, Edgar Baghdasaryan, director;
Australia, Buoyancy, Rodd Rathjen, director;
Austria, Joy, Sudabeh Mortezai, director;
Bangladesh, Alpha, Nasiruddin Yousuff, director;
Belarus, Debut, Anastasiya Miroshnichenko, director;
Belgium, Our Mothers, César Díaz, director;
Bolivia, I Miss You, Rodrigo Bellott, director;
Bosnia and Herzegovina, The Son, Ines Tanovic, director;
Brazil, Invisible Life, Karim Aïnouz, director;
Bulgaria, Ága, Milko Lazarov, director;
Cambodia, In the Life of Music, Caylee So, Sok Visal, directors;
Canada, Antigone, Sophie Deraspe, director;
Chile, Spider, Andrés Wood, director;
China, Ne Zha, Yu Yang, director;
Colombia, Monos, Alejandro Landes, director;
Costa Rica, The Awakening of the Ants, Antonella Sudasassi Furniss, director;
Croatia, Mali, Antonio Nuic, director;
Cuba, A Translator, Rodrigo Barriuso, Sebastián Barriuso, directors;
Czech Republic, The Painted Bird, Václav Marhoul, director;
Denmark, Queen of Hearts, May el-Toukhy, director;
Dominican Republic, The Projectionist, José María Cabral, director;
Ecuador, The Longest Night, Gabriela Calvache, director;
Egypt, Poisonous Roses, Ahmed Fawzi Saleh, director;
Estonia, Truth and Justice, Tanel Toom, director;
Ethiopia, Running against the Wind, Jan Philipp Weyl, director;
Finland, Stupid Young Heart, Selma Vilhunen, director;
France, Les Misérables, Ladj Ly, director;
Georgia, Shindisi, Dimitri Tsintsadze, director;
Germany, System Crasher, Nora Fingscheidt, director;
Ghana, Azali, Kwabena Gyansah, director;
Greece, When Tomatoes Met Wagner, Marianna Economou, director;
Honduras, Blood, Passion, and Coffee, Carlos Membreño, director;
Hong Kong, The White Storm 2 Drug Lords, Herman Yau, director;
Hungary, Those Who Remained, Barnabás Tóth, director;
Iceland, A White, White Day, Hlynur Pálmason, director;
India, Gully Boy, Zoya Akhtar, director;
Indonesia, Memories of My Body, Garin Nugroho, director;
Iran, Finding Farideh, Azadeh Moussavi, Kourosh Ataee, directors;
Ireland, Gaza, Garry Keane, Andrew McConnell, directors;
Israel, Incitement, Yaron Zilberman, director;
Italy, The Traitor, Marco Bellocchio, director;
Japan, Weathering with You, Makoto Shinkai, director;
Kazakhstan, Kazakh Khanate. The Golden Throne, Rustem Abdrashov, director;
Kenya, Subira, Ravneet Singh (Sippy) Chadha, director;
Kosovo, Zana, Antoneta Kastrati, director;
Kyrgyzstan, Aurora, Bekzat Pirmatov, director;
Latvia, The Mover, Davis Simanis, director;
Lebanon, 1982, Oualid Mouaness, director;
Lithuania, Bridges of Time, Audrius Stonys, Kristine Briede, directors;
Luxembourg, Tel Aviv on Fire, Sameh Zoabi, director;
Malaysia, M for Malaysia, Dian Lee, Ineza Roussille, directors;
Mexico, The Chambermaid, Lila Avilés, director;
Mongolia, The Steed, Erdenebileg Ganbold, director;
Montenegro, Neverending Past, Andro Martinović, director;
Morocco, Adam, Maryam Touzani, director;
Nepal, Bulbul, Binod Paudel, director;
Netherlands, Instinct, Halina Reijn, director;
Nigeria, Lionheart, Genevieve Nnaji, director;
North Macedonia, Honeyland, Ljubo Stefanov, Tamara Kotevska, directors;
Norway, Out Stealing Horses, Hans Petter Moland, director;
Pakistan, Laal Kabootar, Kamal Khan, director;
Palestine, It Must Be Heaven, Elia Suleiman, director;
Panama, Everybody Changes, Arturo Montenegro, director;
Peru, Retablo, Alvaro Delgado Aparicio, director;
Philippines, Verdict, Raymund Ribay Gutierrez, director;
Poland, Corpus Christi, Jan Komasa, director;
Portugal, The Domain, Tiago Guedes, director;
Romania, The Whistlers, Corneliu Porumboiu, director;
Russia, Beanpole, Kantemir Balagov, director;
Saudi Arabia, The Perfect Candidate, Haifaa Al Mansour, director;
Senegal, Atlantics, Mati Diop, director;
Serbia, King Petar the First, Petar Ristovski, director;
Singapore, A Land Imagined, Yeo Siew Hua, director;
Slovakia, Let There Be Light, Marko Skop, director;
Slovenia, History of Love, Sonja Prosenc, director;
South Africa, Knuckle City, Jahmil X.T. Qubeka, director;
South Korea, Parasite, Bong Joon Ho, director;
Spain, Pain and Glory, Pedro Almodóvar, director;
Sweden, And Then We Danced, Levan Akin, director;
Switzerland, Wolkenbruch’s Wondrous Journey into the Arms of a Shiksa, Michael Steiner, director;
Taiwan, Dear Ex, Mag Hsu, Chih-Yen Hsu, directors;
Thailand, Krasue: Inhuman Kiss, Sitisiri Mongkolsiri, director;
Tunisia, Dear Son, Mohamed Ben Attia, director;
Turkey, Commitment Asli, Semih Kaplanoglu, director;
Ukraine, Homeward, Nariman Aliev, director;
United Kingdom, The Boy Who Harnessed the Wind, Chiwetel Ejiofor, director;
Uruguay, The Moneychanger, Federico Veiroj, director;
Uzbekistan, Hot Bread, Umid Khamdamov, director;
Venezuela, Being Impossible, Patricia Ortega, director;
Vietnam, Furie, Le Van Kiet, director.

The Academy’s Board of Governors voted this year to rename the Foreign Language Film category as International Feature Film and expand the shortlist from nine to 10 films.

An international feature film is defined as a feature-length motion picture (more than 40 minutes) produced outside the United States with a predominantly non-English dialogue track. Ghana, Nigeria and Uzbekistan are first-time entrants.

The shortlist of 10 films will be announced on Monday, December 16, and the nominations for the 92nd Oscars will be announced on Monday, January 13. The Academy Awards will be handed out on Sunday, February 9.

mae
10-07-2019, 04:18 PM
So for my part, just a very rough guestimate as to what the 10 shortlisted picks (having seen none of these so based mainly on trailers, buzz, talent, and plot) would be:


Australia: Buoyancy
Brazil: The Invisible Life of Eurídice Gusmão
Colombia, Monos
Czech Republic, The Painted Bird
Denmark, Queen of Hearts
France, Les Misérables
Japan, Weathering with You
Luxembourg, Tel Aviv on Fire
South Korea, Parasite
Spain, Pain and Glory


The five nominees in my estimation are in bold. And we all know who the winner is.

Still Servant
10-08-2019, 05:28 PM
I haven't seen Joker yet, but I've of course been following all this ridiculous controversy surrounding the film.

As we all know, there have been tons of ultra-violent films with similar subject matter. Funny Games, A Clockwork Orange and Man Bites Dog come to mind. Yes, many films of this nature are relegated to artsy theaters. Joker is one of the more high profile films to deal with this kind of subject matter that is aimed for a mass audience.

I guess I'm kind of annoyed right now hearing that the film is getting so much backlash that its chances of garnering Oscar attention is now in doubt.

Tommy
10-08-2019, 08:11 PM
I haven't seen Joker yet, but I've of course been following all this ridiculous controversy surrounding the film.

As we all know, there have been tons of ultra-violent films with similar subject matter. Funny Games, A Clockwork Orange and Man Bites Dog come to mind. Yes, many films of this nature are relegated to artsy theaters. Joker is one of the more high profile films to deal with this kind of subject matter that is aimed for a mass audience.

I guess I'm kind of annoyed right now hearing that the film is getting so much backlash that its chances of garnering Oscar attention is now in doubt.

I go back and forth on this topic. On the one hand, one can never know what is going to trigger someone to violence.
However, I think it is a little naive to think that art has no effect on real life.

Catholic zealots set a movie theater on fire in Paris during a screening of The Last Temptation of Christ injuring 13 people. At another theater, a man rammed his car into the box office of a theater showing the same movie. Scorsese still gets death threats over that film.

The Birth of a Nation is widely credited with bringing back to life a nearly non-existent KKK.

Propaganda film is used during wartime to make the enemy even more hated and easily killable, less human and it works pretty well.

And you mentioned A Clockwork Orange which I believe Kubrick himself took out of of circulation in the UK due to copycat gang violence.

Art imitates life but art is a lie that helps us better understand the truth we've been given at least. We get our ideas of what love and friendship, family and conflict resolution could/should be like from films.

It's a bit of a problem in my brain because I don't believe in artistic censorship but at the same time, I can clearly see how films and TV can affect real life in both positive and negative ways. And it's difficult to say that said art has no responsibility in those effects.

And not for nothing but we live in a generation with people like the incels and laundry-detergeant eaters and kids that join ISIS through YouTube recruitment videos. To be an "influencer" is an actual thing now.

Film and TV as both media and art forms is a relatively new thing and I don't think we fully understand it's power.

Just as a stupid example, how many girls got the Rachel haircut because of Friends and how many boys had that Justin Bieber haircut?

Film and TV definitely can influence things to happen, does that make them responsible for those actions though? I really don't know.

Still Servant
10-09-2019, 01:15 PM
I haven't seen Joker yet, but I've of course been following all this ridiculous controversy surrounding the film.

As we all know, there have been tons of ultra-violent films with similar subject matter. Funny Games, A Clockwork Orange and Man Bites Dog come to mind. Yes, many films of this nature are relegated to artsy theaters. Joker is one of the more high profile films to deal with this kind of subject matter that is aimed for a mass audience.

I guess I'm kind of annoyed right now hearing that the film is getting so much backlash that its chances of garnering Oscar attention is now in doubt.

I go back and forth on this topic. On the one hand, one can never know what is going to trigger someone to violence.
However, I think it is a little naive to think that art has no effect on real life.

Catholic zealots set a movie theater on fire in Paris during a screening of The Last Temptation of Christ injuring 13 people. At another theater, a man rammed his car into the box office of a theater showing the same movie. Scorsese still gets death threats over that film.

The Birth of a Nation is widely credited with bringing back to life a nearly non-existent KKK.

Propaganda film is used during wartime to make the enemy even more hated and easily killable, less human and it works pretty well.

And you mentioned A Clockwork Orange which I believe Kubrick himself took out of of circulation in the UK due to copycat gang violence.

Art imitates life but art is a lie that helps us better understand the truth we've been given at least. We get our ideas of what love and friendship, family and conflict resolution could/should be like from films.

It's a bit of a problem in my brain because I don't believe in artistic censorship but at the same time, I can clearly see how films and TV can affect real life in both positive and negative ways. And it's difficult to say that said art has no responsibility in those effects.

And not for nothing but we live in a generation with people like the incels and laundry-detergeant eaters and kids that join ISIS through YouTube recruitment videos. To be an "influencer" is an actual thing now.

Film and TV as both media and art forms is a relatively new thing and I don't think we fully understand it's power.

Just as a stupid example, how many girls got the Rachel haircut because of Friends and how many boys had that Justin Bieber haircut?

Film and TV definitely can influence things to happen, does that make them responsible for those actions though? I really don't know.

I totally agree. My main issue is that people are acting like this is the first film to have subject material like this. It's not. Its impact on society is debatable, the fact that there have been hundreds of more violent films is not.

Tommy
10-09-2019, 03:27 PM
And I still haven't seen it yet either. From what I've read and heard, it seems a rather bleak experience. Maybe not the best date movie? And maybe not something I could watch multiple, multiple times like The Dark Knight and enjoy it every time?

Still Servant
10-09-2019, 04:12 PM
And I still haven't seen it yet either. From what I've read and heard, it seems a rather bleak experience. Maybe not the best date movie? And maybe not something I could watch multiple, multiple times like The Dark Knight and enjoy it every time?

Yeah, that's my guess too. I think the main reason it's creating such controversy is the fact that it's not some art-house indie film. It's a big-budget studio film based on a popular comic book character.

Phoenix was in a similarly violent film last year, one of my favorite films of the year called You Were Never Really Here. It wasn't quite as bleak and his character walked a fine line, but he wasn't a villain. At the end of the day, nobody saw it.

mae
11-08-2019, 06:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvUaiADSXr8

fernandito
11-11-2019, 08:46 AM
I can't watch the video rn but is Lighthouse in there?

webstar1000
11-12-2019, 04:42 AM
Rewatched JOKER last night. Had to.... He better win Best Actor or I boycott!!

fernandito
11-12-2019, 08:48 AM
Phoenix will be a front runner for sure. Is there any other Best Actor nominee that's generating this much buzz? Maybe Pattinson.

webstar1000
11-12-2019, 08:51 AM
Phoenix will be a front runner for sure. Is there any other Best Actor nominee that's generating this much buzz? Maybe Pattinson.

Correct me if I am wrong... would this be the 1st time in Oscar history where two actors won for the same character portrayal?

fernandito
11-12-2019, 08:54 AM
It would be the second time, De Niro and Brando won BA and BSA for portraying Vito Corleone. It's great to think of the Joker joining the pantheon of all time great characters (if he wasn't already).

Still Servant
11-12-2019, 05:02 PM
I can't watch the video rn but is Lighthouse in there?

I listened to the show while at work and I don't remember them mentioning The Lighthouse. If they did, it was brief.


Phoenix will be a front runner for sure. Is there any other Best Actor nominee that's generating this much buzz? Maybe Pattinson.

Pattinson is amazing in The Lighthouse. I've been touting his acting chops for a few years now, constantly letting family and friends know how good he is. I've never seen the Twilight films, but I was also guilty of brushing him off because of his bloodsucking past. Boy was I wrong. Pattinson has since gone on a streak of pumping out quality work with films like The Rover, The Lost City of Z, High Life, Cosmpolis and Good Time.

I think an interesting discussion is what to do with Dafoe. He's equally great, but he's a lead actor as well. lt would be a bad idea if they both went Best Actor though.

fernandito
11-13-2019, 09:55 AM
His acting is great in Cosmopolis, but the film is a whole is a misfire. Pains me to say that as I'm a huge Cronenberg fanboy.

I haven't seen High Life or Good Time yet, but I remember reading the outpouring of praise from various outlets.

mae
11-14-2019, 03:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddf0J5vJ8B0

Still Servant
11-16-2019, 06:29 AM
His acting is great in Cosmopolis, but the film is a whole is a misfire. Pains me to say that as I'm a huge Cronenberg fanboy.

I haven't seen High Life or Good Time yet, but I remember reading the outpouring of praise from various outlets.

Have you seen The Rover? Because I might have an unused digital code lying around.

Still Servant
11-16-2019, 10:24 AM
Stacked.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lists/feinberg-forecast-oscars-landscape-afi-fests-kickoff-1251586/item/best-adapted-screenplay-1251579

fernandito
11-18-2019, 02:54 PM
I guess I need to see Marriage Story, and Two Popes. I'll watch anything with Hopkins.

Also the fact that Midsommar and Lighthouse aren't contending for major honors bugs the shit outta me.

mae
11-18-2019, 03:15 PM
Too weird.

webstar1000
11-18-2019, 04:09 PM
I guess I need to see Marriage Story, and Two Popes. I'll watch anything with Hopkins.

Also the fact that Midsommar and Lighthouse aren't contending for major honors bugs the shit outta me.

Lighthouse should be more so. While I loved Midsummer it was no Oscar contender.

Still Servant
11-18-2019, 06:43 PM
I guess I need to see Marriage Story, and Two Popes. I'll watch anything with Hopkins.

Also the fact that Midsommar and Lighthouse aren't contending for major honors bugs the shit outta me.

Lighthouse should be more so. While I loved Midsummer it was no Oscar contender.

Pugh's perormance is not Oscar worthy? I would beg to differ.

webstar1000
11-19-2019, 06:02 AM
I guess I need to see Marriage Story, and Two Popes. I'll watch anything with Hopkins.

Also the fact that Midsommar and Lighthouse aren't contending for major honors bugs the shit outta me.

Lighthouse should be more so. While I loved Midsummer it was no Oscar contender.

Pugh's perormance is not Oscar worthy? I would beg to differ.

No I do not think so. I bet there is no nomination for it too. I think Lighthouse in some form or another will get nods though.

fernandito
11-19-2019, 09:25 AM
Were there really 5 actresses better than Pugh this year? I doubt it, but if so I'm impressed.

webstar1000
11-19-2019, 09:27 AM
Were there really 5 actresses better than Pugh this year? I doubt it, but if so I'm impressed.

We will find out. I really liked that movie a LOT but she didn't blow me away. And surly not Oscar nom acting that is for sure. When is the nominations out anyways?

Randall Flagg
11-19-2019, 09:45 AM
I predict The Irishman will have several nominations and will win Best Picture, Best Actor (DeNiro), Best Supporting Actor (Pacino),Best Editor, and Best Director.

webstar1000
11-19-2019, 09:46 AM
I predict The Irishman will have several nominations and will win Best Picture, Best Actor (DeNiro), Best Supporting Actor (Pacino),Best Editor, and Best Director.

Man you are making me pumped to see this! You gave Ford V Ferr a higher mark though?

DanHocker
11-19-2019, 09:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddf0J5vJ8B0

Not Oscar related, but is that the only face De Niro knows how to make? I swear every promotional movie still I see of him in anything his him making that face.

fernandito
11-19-2019, 10:01 AM
I predict The Irishman will have several nominations and will win Best Picture, Best Actor (DeNiro), Best Supporting Actor (Pacino),Best Editor, and Best Director.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/NJhOlTTz6cbNm/giphy.gif

Randall Flagg
11-19-2019, 04:30 PM
I predict The Irishman will have several nominations and will win Best Picture, Best Actor (DeNiro), Best Supporting Actor (Pacino),Best Editor, and Best Director.

Man you are making me pumped to see this! You gave Ford V Ferr a higher mark though?
No. 5/6 for Ford V Ferrari. It was a typo that I quickly corrected.

Still Servant
11-19-2019, 06:26 PM
Were there really 5 actresses better than Pugh this year? I doubt it, but if so I'm impressed.

We will find out. I really liked that movie a LOT but she didn't blow me away. And surly not Oscar nom acting that is for sure. When is the nominations out anyways?

Just because she doesn't get nominated doesn't mean she wasn't deserving. Toni Collette was forgotten come Oscar night last year. You can't tell me that wasn't a top 5 female performance of 2018. As Fernando said, I don't see 5 better performances than Pugh so far this year.

webstar1000
11-19-2019, 06:28 PM
Were there really 5 actresses better than Pugh this year? I doubt it, but if so I'm impressed.

We will find out. I really liked that movie a LOT but she didn't blow me away. And surly not Oscar nom acting that is for sure. When is the nominations out anyways?

Just because she doesn't get nominated doesn't mean she wasn't deserving. Toni Collette was forgotten come Oscar night last year. You can't tell me that wasn't a top 5 female performance of 2018. As Fernando said, I don't see 5 better performances than Pugh so far this year.

Please tell me your not talking about her deserving for Hereditary?


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Still Servant
11-19-2019, 06:29 PM
Were there really 5 actresses better than Pugh this year? I doubt it, but if so I'm impressed.

We will find out. I really liked that movie a LOT but she didn't blow me away. And surly not Oscar nom acting that is for sure. When is the nominations out anyways?

Just because she doesn't get nominated doesn't mean she wasn't deserving. Toni Collette was forgotten come Oscar night last year. You can't tell me that wasn't a top 5 female performance of 2018. As Fernando said, I don't see 5 better performances than Pugh so far this year.

Please tell me your not talking about her deserving for Hereditary?


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Of course. Her performance in Hereditary is amazing. Really nuanced too. I thought everybody loved her in that.

webstar1000
11-19-2019, 06:33 PM
Were there really 5 actresses better than Pugh this year? I doubt it, but if so I'm impressed.

We will find out. I really liked that movie a LOT but she didn't blow me away. And surly not Oscar nom acting that is for sure. When is the nominations out anyways?

Just because she doesn't get nominated doesn't mean she wasn't deserving. Toni Collette was forgotten come Oscar night last year. You can't tell me that wasn't a top 5 female performance of 2018. As Fernando said, I don't see 5 better performances than Pugh so far this year.

Please tell me your not talking about her deserving for Hereditary?


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Of course. Her performance in Hereditary is amazing. Really nuanced too. I thought everybody loved her in that.

I did think she was good but I have to say she was not ignored by the Oscars. They got it right with the noms.


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Still Servant
11-19-2019, 06:37 PM
You're in the minority on that one. Most people think she was snubbed. You prefer the performance of that woman from Roma?

webstar1000
11-19-2019, 06:42 PM
You're in the minority on that one. Most people think she was snubbed. You prefer the performance of that woman from Roma?

I wasn’t a huge fan I’d Roma but i wouldn’t say I was alone.... the academy agreed with me as well.


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Still Servant
11-19-2019, 06:47 PM
You're in the minority on that one. Most people think she was snubbed. You prefer the performance of that woman from Roma?

I wasn’t a huge fan I’d Roma but i wouldn’t say I was alone.... the academy agreed with me as well.


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The Academy also gave Best Picture to Shakespeare in Love over Saving Private Ryan...

mae
11-20-2019, 05:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ7AgfH7asI

Randall Flagg
11-20-2019, 06:09 PM
Sorry, but I can't watch a 41 minute video on best supporting actor.

fernandito
11-21-2019, 08:35 AM
can we get cliff notes :lol:

Ricky
11-21-2019, 04:10 PM
:lol:

Mattrick
11-21-2019, 06:54 PM
can we get cliff notes :lol:

Collider sucks. Also these actors were good.

Mattrick
11-21-2019, 06:57 PM
You're in the minority on that one. Most people think she was snubbed. You prefer the performance of that woman from Roma?


I preferred the woman in Roma. But I also preferred Toni Colette. Could've done with switching Colette for Gaga or Close.

mae
11-27-2019, 04:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdpALYSO3S8&t=1816s

Mattrick
11-28-2019, 06:14 PM
Please God no. I can't speak for her talents (never seen her in anything) and I've yet to see The Farewell, but could you imagine seeing the name Awkwafina next to Best Actress in the history books. It's just the dumbest name ever. On the plus side, I know she agrees with the fact it's the dumbest name ever.

mae
11-28-2019, 06:35 PM
The Farewell in one of my favorites of 2019. Not sure of the placement, but safely in the Top 3. And her performance is a big part of it, she's so great in it.

mae
12-04-2019, 04:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbD5M5gMcSg

mae
12-11-2019, 04:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxmKeGuq5bE&t=1997s

Still Servant
12-11-2019, 05:35 PM
Don't nominate a female director just to nominate a female director. That doesn't do anybody any favors. If there is a female director that is deserving, then she should be nominated. That said, there are some pretty heavy-hitting male directors this year.

webstar1000
12-11-2019, 05:42 PM
Don't nominate a female director just to nominate a female director. That doesn't do anybody any favors. If there is a female director that is deserving, then she should be nominated. That said, there are some pretty heavy-hitting male directors this year.

Totally agree.


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Ricky
12-12-2019, 03:43 PM
Don't nominate a female director just to nominate a female director. That doesn't do anybody any favors. If there is a female director that is deserving, then she should be nominated.

Yes, thank you. I'm so tired of hearing of women or minorities being "snubbed." If you're black or white or a woman or a man, you're either going to EARN a nomination because your work is deserving or NOT EARN a nomination, not because of your color, race, gender, etc.

mae
12-12-2019, 04:49 PM
It's more about more opportunities for everyone, and that's slowly happening. Whether it's reflected in nominations is another topic.

mae
12-18-2019, 07:55 AM
https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2019/12/16/us/ap-us-oscars-international-film-shortlist.html

Ten international films, including widely acclaimed offerings from South Korea, Spain and Senegal, are on the shortlist of movies vying for Academy Award nominations.

The best international feature shortlist announced Monday by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences includes Bong Joon Ho’s “Parasite,” Pedro Almodovar’s semi-autobiographical “Pain and Glory” and “Atlantics,” Senegal’s entry from history-making director Mati Diop.

In May, Diop became the first black woman to compete for the top prize at the Cannes Film Festival. That honor went to “Parasite,” while “Atlantics" won the festival's Grand Prix honor. If “Parasite” or “Atlantics" receive nominations, they would mark the first for South Korea and Senegal, respectively.

It is the first year the Oscar formerly will be awarded under a new name: best international feature film. The category was previously known as the best foreign language film.

The 10 short-listed films are: the Czech Republic’s “The Painted Bird”; Estonia’s “Truth and Justice”; France’s “Les Misérables”; Hungary’s “Those Who Remained”; North Macedonia’s “Honeyland”; Poland’s “Corpus Christi”; Russia’s “Beanpole”; Senegal’s “Atlantics”; South Korea’s “Parasite” and Spain’s “Pain and Glory.”

mae
12-18-2019, 06:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-rnwOsyCTk

mae
01-03-2020, 06:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4RFsi19Rb4

DoctorZaius
01-03-2020, 08:00 PM
Has anyone seen Little Women? Sure there is an argument to be made about Greta Gerwig's potential snub. This one is not about nominating her just because she's a woman.

mae
01-06-2020, 03:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDcGadXfsCA

mae
01-06-2020, 04:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFCx2I9qWes

Still Servant
01-06-2020, 06:12 PM
The Golden Globes aren't a great Oscar indicator, but some things are starting to solidify. Here are my Best Picture predictions. It's such a strong year for film that I would love to see them nominate 10 films, but they will more than likely stick to their usual 9.

1) 1917
2) The Irishman
3) Jojo Rabbit
4) Joker
5) Little Women
6) Marriage Story
7) Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
8 ) Parasite
9) Knives Out

webstar1000
01-06-2020, 06:14 PM
The Golden Globes aren't a great Oscar indicator, but some things are starting to solidify. Here are my Best Picture predictions. It's such a strong year for film that I would love to see them nominate 10 films, but they will more than likely stick to their usual 9.

1) 1917
2) The Irishman
3) Jojo Rabbit
4) Joker
5) Little Women
6) Marriage Story
7) Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
8 ) Parasite
9) Knives Out

This list is solid. If I had my wish Endgame would get a nod If nothing other than the sheer brilliance of bringing all those films together so well over that long of a time period. Just a wish but would be cool. I thought JoJo sucked so bye bye to that one. Lol


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mae
01-06-2020, 06:17 PM
The Golden Globes aren't a great Oscar indicator, but some things are starting to solidify. Here are my Best Picture predictions. It's such a strong year for film that I would love to see them nominate 10 films, but they will more than likely stick to their usual 9.

1) 1917
2) The Irishman
3) Jojo Rabbit
4) Joker
5) Little Women
6) Marriage Story
7) Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
8 ) Parasite
9) Knives Out

What would a tenth film be? I would add The Farewell.

webstar1000
01-06-2020, 06:17 PM
The Golden Globes aren't a great Oscar indicator, but some things are starting to solidify. Here are my Best Picture predictions. It's such a strong year for film that I would love to see them nominate 10 films, but they will more than likely stick to their usual 9.

1) 1917
2) The Irishman
3) Jojo Rabbit
4) Joker
5) Little Women
6) Marriage Story
7) Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
8 ) Parasite
9) Knives Out

What would a tenth film be?

Endgame:)


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Still Servant
01-06-2020, 06:20 PM
The Golden Globes aren't a great Oscar indicator, but some things are starting to solidify. Here are my Best Picture predictions. It's such a strong year for film that I would love to see them nominate 10 films, but they will more than likely stick to their usual 9.

1) 1917
2) The Irishman
3) Jojo Rabbit
4) Joker
5) Little Women
6) Marriage Story
7) Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
8 ) Parasite
9) Knives Out

This list is solid. If I had my wish Endgame would get a nod If nothing other than the sheer brilliance of bringing all those films together so well over that long of a time period. Just a wish but would be cool. I thought JoJo sucked so bye bye to that one. Lol


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End Game would not surprise me to get a nomination. Especially if they are trying to draw in a larger audience, although I will always argue that fans of End Game are not the same kind of filmgoers that watch the Oscars.

Jojo Rabbit certainly does not suck! I can't believe anyone would dislike that film. What didn't you like? Have you seen any other Taika Waititi films other than Thor Ragnarok?

webstar1000
01-06-2020, 06:23 PM
The Golden Globes aren't a great Oscar indicator, but some things are starting to solidify. Here are my Best Picture predictions. It's such a strong year for film that I would love to see them nominate 10 films, but they will more than likely stick to their usual 9.

1) 1917
2) The Irishman
3) Jojo Rabbit
4) Joker
5) Little Women
6) Marriage Story
7) Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
8 ) Parasite
9) Knives Out

This list is solid. If I had my wish Endgame would get a nod If nothing other than the sheer brilliance of bringing all those films together so well over that long of a time period. Just a wish but would be cool. I thought JoJo sucked so bye bye to that one. Lol


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End Game would not surprise me to get a nomination. Especially if they are trying to draw in a larger audience, although I will always argue that fans of End Game are not the same kind of filmgoers that watch the Oscars.

Jojo Rabbit certainly does not suck! I can't believe anyone would dislike that film. What didn't you like? Have you seen any other Taika Waititi films other than Thor Ragnarok?

I have. Eagle V shark is AMAZING!! So funny and if you have seen thier show... it’s even funnier. I just thought it was silly. It wasn’t funny (few parts were) and some was annoying. Family hated it and wanted to watch something else.... I was interested enough to finish it but not a fav of mine no...


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Still Servant
01-07-2020, 03:41 PM
Well, it's not entirely supposed to be funny. It's about Nazis after all. There's actually a lot of heart in the film. I'm not sure how old your family is, but I wouldn't say it's something for the entire family. There's no way younger kids are going to get all the satire in that film.

My Best Director predictions:

Bong Joon-ho - Parasite
Greta Gerwig - Little Women
Quentin Tarantino - Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Sam Mendes - 1917
Martin Scorsese - The Irishman

webstar1000
01-07-2020, 03:41 PM
Well, it's not entirely supposed to be funny. It's about Nazis after all. There's actually a lot of heart in the film. I'm not sure how old your family is, but I wouldn't say it's something for the entire family. There's no way younger kids are going to get all the satire in that film.

My Best Director predictions:

Bong Joon-ho - Parasite
Greta Gerwig - Little Women
Quentin Tarantino - Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Sam Mendes - 1917
Martin Scorsese - The Irishman

No love for Todd??


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Still Servant
01-07-2020, 04:00 PM
Well, it's not entirely supposed to be funny. It's about Nazis after all. There's actually a lot of heart in the film. I'm not sure how old your family is, but I wouldn't say it's something for the entire family. There's no way younger kids are going to get all the satire in that film.

My Best Director predictions:

Bong Joon-ho - Parasite
Greta Gerwig - Little Women
Quentin Tarantino - Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Sam Mendes - 1917
Martin Scorsese - The Irishman

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Strong year, man. There are only 5 spots. People like Noah Baumbach, Rian Johnson, James Mangold and Taika Waititi (despite directing a terrible film :lol:) are going to get left out in the cold too. Honestly, I could make the case that the Safdie Brothers are also worthy.

mae
01-07-2020, 04:07 PM
Don't forget Lulu Wang.

Randall Flagg
01-07-2020, 04:34 PM
Scorsese wins on Hollywood sentiment.

Still Servant
01-07-2020, 04:44 PM
Don't forget Lulu Wang.

Yup. The list goes on.

webstar1000
01-07-2020, 04:44 PM
Scorsese wins on Hollywood sentiment.

I do not believe he deserves it this year BUT I do agree you are mostly likely right.


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mae
01-07-2020, 04:46 PM
Kinda funny that Scorsese bags on Marvel movies but The Irishman is basically the gangster version of a Marvel movie.

Randall Flagg
01-07-2020, 05:50 PM
Kinda funny that Scorsese bags on Marvel movies but The Irishman is basically the gangster version of a Marvel movie.

How so?
The Irishman was based upon a true story.
Please elaborate on your statement.

mae
01-07-2020, 05:56 PM
I don't mean story-wise. I mean Scorsese is gathering all his superheroes in one epic genre movie.

Ricky
01-08-2020, 03:27 PM
The Mobvengers?

Hunchback Jack
01-08-2020, 04:57 PM
I don't mean story-wise. I mean Scorsese is gathering all his superheroes in one epic genre movie.

I think the point you're making is clever, but doesn't really work, in that the amassing of superheroes wasn't the primary aspect of the Marvel movies that Scorsese objected to.

HBJ

mae
01-08-2020, 05:02 PM
I was just making a funny (maybe not) comment; don't think too much about it. I love both Scorsese and Marvel movies.

Still Servant
01-08-2020, 06:33 PM
This is a really strong category this year. I think Taron Egerton has positioned himself nicely for a nomination. I think he's more than deserving. I'm really rooting for Adam Sandler, but I don't think the Academy throws him a bone here.


My Best Actor predictions:

Adam Driver - Marriage Story
Antonio Banderas - Pain and Glory
Eddie Murphy - Dolemite Is My Name
Taron Egerton - Rocketman
Joaquin Phoenix - Joker

Ricky
01-08-2020, 07:36 PM
Is anyone one else freaking out that there's significantly less time between nominations and the show this year? And less time to fit in everything I need to see! :panic:

Still Servant
01-09-2020, 06:21 PM
Is anyone one else freaking out that there's significantly less time between nominations and the show this year? And less time to fit in everything I need to see! :panic:

Nope. I've seen almost everything except 1917.

Best Actress is fairly strong this year. There aren't many slots open as at least 3 are locks. I would love for Lupita Nyong’o to get a nomination for Us. She did double duty and I thought she was just fantastic. Nyong’o was also a breath of fresh air in the under the radar zombie flick Little Monsters. Really strong year for her.


My Best Actress predictions:

Renee Zellweger - Judy
Scarlett Johansson - Marriage Story
Charlize Theron - Bombshell
Saoirse Ronan - Little Women
Awkwafina - The Farewell

fernandito
01-10-2020, 08:21 AM
Is anyone one else freaking out that there's significantly less time between nominations and the show this year? And less time to fit in everything I need to see! :panic:

Yes. This is around the time me and my brothers do our Oscar Nomination Gauntlet where we watch like 3 movies in one day. We haven't been able to properly plan it because of the no-nominations yet, although we should probably just use the Golden Globes as a barometer.

Also I saw 1917 last night and it's freaking bad ass.

Ricky
01-10-2020, 02:13 PM
Nope. I've seen almost everything except 1917.

Well you're just too cool for school then, aren't you. :P


I would love for Lupita Nyong’o to get a nomination for Us. She did double duty and I thought she was just fantastic. Nyong’o was also a breath of fresh air in the under the radar zombie flick Little Monsters. Really strong year for her.

Remember when, years ago before 12 Years a Slave, you said that you didn't see her having much of a career besides 12 Years? :lol:


Yes. This is around the time me and my brothers do our Oscar Nomination Gauntlet where we watch like 3 movies in one day. We haven't been able to properly plan it because of the no-nominations yet, although we should probably just use the Golden Globes as a barometer.

Also I saw 1917 last night and it's freaking bad ass.

I love Oscar marathoning. I'm waiting for AMC to announce the Best Picture Showcase schedule after noms on Monday. Hopefully my local AMC is participating again.

And 1917 is sure picking up some steam.

Still Servant
01-10-2020, 05:42 PM
Remember when, years ago before 12 Years a Slave, you said that you didn't see her having much of a career besides 12 Years? :lol:

I actually don't remember saying that. :lol: I don't doubt I said it, but I would love to see that conversation.

Best Supporting Actor Predictions:

Brad Pitt - Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Al Pacino - The Irishman
Joe Pesci - The Irishman
Tom Hanks - A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood
Willem Dafoe - The Lighthouse

Dafoe isn't showing up on a lot of lists, but he's been a favorite among the Academy in recent years nabbing nominations for The Florida Project and At Eternity's Gate. I haven't seen either one of those, but I find it near impossible that his performance in those two films is better than The Lighthouse. The only unfortunate part is the fact that Pattinson can't get nominated too. He's every bit Dafoe's equal in The Lighthouse.

Ricky
01-10-2020, 07:46 PM
I can't believe I found it. :lol:

"As for Lupita, I don't want to sound like a Debbie Downer, but Lupita's career peaked last night and it will be downhill from here. I hope she proves me wrong, but I don't make the rules. Hollywood is not exactly kind to young, African American women. I can't wait to see what kind of path she chooses in the wake of hear Best Supporting Actress award."

From the 2014 Oscars thread.

mae
01-11-2020, 08:34 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRJUlxvP904

mae
01-11-2020, 10:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEho_CNX43s

webstar1000
01-11-2020, 11:02 AM
Remember when, years ago before 12 Years a Slave, you said that you didn't see her having much of a career besides 12 Years? :lol:

I actually don't remember saying that. :lol: I don't doubt I said it, but I would love to see that conversation.

Best Supporting Actor Predictions:

Brad Pitt - Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Al Pacino - The Irishman
Joe Pesci - The Irishman
Tom Hanks - A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood
Willem Dafoe - The Lighthouse

Dafoe isn't showing up on a lot of lists, but he's been a favorite among the Academy in recent years nabbing nominations for The Florida Project and At Eternity's Gate. I haven't seen either one of those, but I find it near impossible that his performance in those two films is better than The Lighthouse. The only unfortunate part is the fact that Pattinson can't get nominated too. He's every bit Dafoe's equal in The Lighthouse.

Pacino was the worst part of (actors) Irishman. He doesn’t deserve to be there.


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Still Servant
01-11-2020, 12:51 PM
I thought he was the best part of the film! That's what makes the world go round, I guess!

Still Servant
01-11-2020, 12:53 PM
I can't believe I found it. :lol:

"As for Lupita, I don't want to sound like a Debbie Downer, but Lupita's career peaked last night and it will be downhill from here. I hope she proves me wrong, but I don't make the rules. Hollywood is not exactly kind to young, African American women. I can't wait to see what kind of path she chooses in the wake of hear Best Supporting Actress award."

From the 2014 Oscars thread.

Nice find, Ricky! I I would argue that her career has been downhill since winning the Oscar! Hard to top that. :lol:


I will say that she has certainly chosen the right roles.

Still Servant
01-12-2020, 03:26 PM
I'd love to see Scarlett Johansson get nominated in the Best Supporting Actress category as well for Jojo Rabbit. I think she has a real possibility of that happening too. My guess is that she misses out. I think Pugh grabs the spot, which makes me happy because I'm a really big fan. I would prefer a nomination for her amazing performance in Midsommar, but this will have to do.

Best Supporting Actress Predictions

Laura Dern - Marriage Story
Margot Robbie - Bombshell
Jennifer Lopez - Hustlers
Annette Benning - The Report
Florence Pugh - Little Women

webstar1000
01-12-2020, 03:33 PM
I'd love to see Scarlett Johansson get nominated in the Best Supporting Actress category as well for Jojo Rabbit. I think she has a real possibility of that happening too. My guess is that she misses out. I think Pugh grabs the spot, which makes me happy because I'm a really big fan. I would prefer a nomination for her amazing performance in Midsommar, but this will have to do.

Best Supporting Actress Predictions

Laura Dern - Marriage Story
Margot Robbie - Bombshell
Jennifer Lopez - Hustlers
Annette Benning - The Report
Florence Pugh - Little Women

I think she is better than Lopez. I don’t think she deserves a spot


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Mattrick
01-12-2020, 03:34 PM
I can't believe I found it. :lol:

"As for Lupita, I don't want to sound like a Debbie Downer, but Lupita's career peaked last night and it will be downhill from here. I hope she proves me wrong, but I don't make the rules. Hollywood is not exactly kind to young, African American women. I can't wait to see what kind of path she chooses in the wake of hear Best Supporting Actress award."

From the 2014 Oscars thread.

Nice find, Ricky! I I would argue that her career has been downhill since winning the Oscar! Hard to top that. :lol:


I will say that she has certainly chosen the right roles.


While she's a bigger name and no doubt made so much more money, she went from a fantastic performance in a best picture winner to voicing a CGI character with assholes for eyes. US was the first thing I've seen her in since 12 Years a Slave where I remembered she's a damn good actress.

Still Servant
01-12-2020, 05:15 PM
I'd love to see Scarlett Johansson get nominated in the Best Supporting Actress category as well for Jojo Rabbit. I think she has a real possibility of that happening too. My guess is that she misses out. I think Pugh grabs the spot, which makes me happy because I'm a really big fan. I would prefer a nomination for her amazing performance in Midsommar, but this will have to do.

Best Supporting Actress Predictions

Laura Dern - Marriage Story
Margot Robbie - Bombshell
Jennifer Lopez - Hustlers
Annette Benning - The Report
Florence Pugh - Little Women

I think she is better than Lopez. I don’t think she deserves a spot

Yeah, but you didn't like Jojo, so I wouldn't think you would say she's deserving.

Still Servant
01-12-2020, 05:18 PM
I can't believe I found it. :lol:

"As for Lupita, I don't want to sound like a Debbie Downer, but Lupita's career peaked last night and it will be downhill from here. I hope she proves me wrong, but I don't make the rules. Hollywood is not exactly kind to young, African American women. I can't wait to see what kind of path she chooses in the wake of hear Best Supporting Actress award."

From the 2014 Oscars thread.

Nice find, Ricky! I I would argue that her career has been downhill since winning the Oscar! Hard to top that. :lol:


I will say that she has certainly chosen the right roles.


While she's a bigger name and no doubt made so much more money, she went from a fantastic performance in a best picture winner to voicing a CGI character with assholes for eyes. US was the first thing I've seen her in since 12 Years a Slave where I remembered she's a damn good actress.

She had small roles in Non-Stop and Black Panther, but it seems like she was focusing on voice over work, lending her voice to characters in Star Wars and Jungle Book.

webstar1000
01-12-2020, 05:20 PM
I'd love to see Scarlett Johansson get nominated in the Best Supporting Actress category as well for Jojo Rabbit. I think she has a real possibility of that happening too. My guess is that she misses out. I think Pugh grabs the spot, which makes me happy because I'm a really big fan. I would prefer a nomination for her amazing performance in Midsommar, but this will have to do.

Best Supporting Actress Predictions

Laura Dern - Marriage Story
Margot Robbie - Bombshell
Jennifer Lopez - Hustlers
Annette Benning - The Report
Florence Pugh - Little Women

I think she is better than Lopez. I don’t think she deserves a spot

Yeah, but you didn't like Jojo, so I wouldn't think you would say she's deserving.

Scarlet is a tremendous actor. She was good in that despite my displeasure with the movie.


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mae
01-13-2020, 05:14 AM
Five minutes till the announcement begins:

http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?22517-The-Official-2020-Oscar-Discussion-Contest-Thread&p=1179636&viewfull=1#post1179636

mae
01-13-2020, 05:42 AM
Goddammit, The Farewell completely shut out. No Zhao Shuzhen, no Awkwafina, no original screenplay. What bullcrap :cry:

mae
01-13-2020, 05:47 AM
I would've also loved to see JLo and Song Kang-ho get recognition, but alas... Very happy for Antonio Banderas, that movie made me cry at the end, beautiful performance, but no way he wins.

mae
01-13-2020, 05:52 AM
Here's the list:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lists/oscar-nominations-2020-complete-list-nominees-updating-live-1267880

The nominations for the 92nd Academy Awards were unveiled Monday morning.

The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences announced nominees in 24 categories. John Cho and Issa Rae were on hand to announce the nominations, with nine films up for best picture.

For the second year in a row, the Oscars will go hostless. ABC Entertainment president Karey Burke made the announcement last week when speaking at the Television Critics Association's winter press tour in Pasadena. "Let me confirm it now, together with the Academy, that there will be no traditional host this year," Burke said, stressing the ceremony would repeat what worked last year.

The 92nd Academy Awards will be held Sunday, Feb. 9, airing on ABC as part of the network's long-term agreement with the Academy.

Best Picture
1917 (Universal)
Ford v Ferrari (Fox)
The Irishman (Netflix)
Jojo Rabbit (Fox Searchlight)
Joker (Warner Bros.)
Little Women (Sony)
Marriage Story (Netflix)
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (Sony)
Parasite (Neon)

Actor in a Leading Role
Antonio Banderas (Pain and Glory)
Leonardo DiCaprio (Once Upon a Time in Hollywood)
Adam Driver (Marriage Story)
Joaquin Phoenix (Joker)
Jonathan Pryce (The Two Popes)

Actress in a Leading Role
Cynthia Erivo (Harriet)
Scarlett Johansson (Marriage Story)
Saoirse Ronan (Little Women)
Charlize Theron (Bombshell)
Renée Zellweger (Judy)

Actress in a Supporting Role
Kathy Bates (Richard Jewell)
Laura Dern (Marriage Story)
Scarlett Johansson (Jojo Rabbit)
Florence Pugh (Little Women)
Margot Robbie (Bombshell)

Actor in a Supporting Role
Tom Hanks (A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood)
Anthony Hopkins (The Two Popes)
Al Pacino (The Irishman)
Joe Pesci (The Irishman)
Brad Pitt (Once Upon a Time in Hollywood)

Directing
Bong Joon Ho (Parasite)
Sam Mendes (1917)
Todd Phillips (Joker)
Martin Scorsese (The Irishman)
Quentin Tarantino (Once Upon a Time in Hollywood)

Adapted Screenplay
The Irishman (Steven Zaillian)
Jojo Rabbit (Taika Waititi)
Joker (Todd Phillips & Scott Silver)
Little Women (Greta Gerwig)
The Two Popes (Anthony McCarten)

Original Screenplay
1917 (Sam Mendes & Krysty Wilson-Cairns)
Knives Out (Rian Johnson)
Marriage Story (Noah Baumbach)
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (Quentin Tarantino)
Parasite (Bong Joon Ho & Jin Won Han)

International Feature Film
Corpus Christi (Poland)
Honeyland (North Macedonia)
Les Miserables (France)
Pain and Glory (Spain)
Parasite (South Korea)

Production Design
1917
The Irishman
Jojo Rabbit
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Parasite

Film Editing
Ford v Ferrari (Andrew Buckland & Michael McCusker)
The Irishman (Thelma Schoonmaker)
Jojo Rabbit (Tom Eagles)
Joker (Jeff Groth)
Parasite (Jinmo Yang)

Cinematography
1917 (Roger Deakins)
The Irishman (Rodrigo Prieto)
Joker (Lawrence Sher)
The Lighthouse (Jarin Blaschke)
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (Robert Richardson)

Visual Effects
1917
Avengers: Endgame
The Irishman
The Lion King
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

Costume Design
Jojo Rabbit
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
The Irishman
Joker
Little Women

Sound Mixing
1917
Ad Astra
Ford v Ferrari
Joker
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Sound Editing
1917
Ford v Ferrari
Joker
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

Original Score
1917 (Thomas Newman)
Joker (Hildur Guðnadóttir)
Little Women (Alexandre Desplat)
Marriage Story (Randy Newman)
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (John Williams)

Documentary Feature
American Factory (Netflix)
The Cave (National Geographic)
The Edge of Democracy (Netflix)
For Sama (PBS)
Honeyland (Neon)

Documentary Short Subject
In the Absence
Learning to Skateboard in a Warzone (If You’re a Girl)
Life Overtakes Me
St. Louis Superman
Walk Run Cha-Cha

Makeup and Hairstyling
1917
Bombshell
Joker
Judy
Maleficent: Mistress of Evil

Animated Feature Film
How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World (Dreamworks)
I Lost My Body (Netflix)
Klaus (Netflix)
Missing Link (United Artists Releasing)
Toy Story 4 (Pixar)

Animated Short Film
Dcera (Daughter)
Hair Love
Kitbull
Memorable
Sister

Live-Action Short Film
Brotherhood
Nefta Football Club
The Neighbors’ Window
Saria
A Sister

Original Song
"I Can't Let You Throw Yourself Away" (Toy Story 4) — Randy Newman
"(I'm Gonna) Love Me Again" (Rocketman) — Elton John & Bernie Taupin
"I'm Standing With You" (Breakthrough) — Diane Warren
"Into the Unknown" (Frozen 2) — Robert Lopez & Kristen Anderson-Lopez
"Stand Up" (Harriet) — Joshuah Brian Campbell & Cynthia Erivo

webstar1000
01-13-2020, 06:18 AM
Dammm. SO I count 11 for Joker???

fernandito
01-13-2020, 09:39 AM
Parasite, 1917, or Hollywood; the winner will come out of those 3...

webstar1000
01-13-2020, 10:39 AM
Parasite, 1917, or Hollywood; the winner will come out of those 3...

Or Joker... leading the pack with 11 noms. I would not discount that film.

fernandito
01-13-2020, 10:43 AM
It's possible, but the academy does not look favorably on awarding the highest prize to a CBM. Phoenix might win for BA, Philips might win for BD, but if I was a betting man my money would not be on Joker winning BP.

DanHocker
01-13-2020, 11:56 AM
It's possible, but the academy does not look favorably on awarding the highest prize to a CBM. Phoenix might win for BA, Philips might win for BD, but if I was a betting man my money would not be on Joker winning BP.

I'm with you here. I honestly don't think it matters how good Joker is. I think 1917 is probably the safe bet. Because Oscar's voting is "ranked choice" I feel like 1917 has enough broad appeal to land itself in at least everyone #2 or #3 spot, which ultimately would give it the Oscar.

Still Servant
01-13-2020, 02:28 PM
The nominees are!

Best Picture

1917
Ford v Ferrari
The Irishman
Jojo Rabbit
Joker
Little Women
Marriage Story
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Parasite

Actor in a Leading Role

Antonio Banderas - Pain and Glory
Leonardo DiCaprio - Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Adam Driver - Marriage Story
Joaquin Phoenix - Joker
Jonathan Pryce - The Two Popes

Actress in a Leading Role

Cynthia Erivo - Harriet
Scarlett Johansson - Marriage Story
Saoirse Ronan - Little Women
Charlize Theron - Bombshell
Renée Zellweger - Judy

Actress in a Supporting Role

Kathy Bates - Richard Jewell
Laura Dern - Marriage Story
Scarlett Johansson - Jojo Rabbit
Florence Pugh - Little Women
Margot Robbie - Bombshell

Actor in a Supporting Role

Tom Hanks - A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood
Anthony Hopkins - The Two Popes
Al Pacino - The Irishman
Joe Pesci - The Irishman
Brad Pitt - Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Directing

Bong Joon Ho - Parasite
Sam Mendes - 1917
Todd Phillips - Joker
Martin Scorsese - The Irishman
Quentin Tarantino - Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Adapted Screenplay

The Irishman
Jojo Rabbit
Joker
Little Women
The Two Popes

Original Screenplay

1917
Knives Out
Marriage Story
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Parasite

International Feature Film

Corpus Christi
Honeyland
Les Miserables
Pain and Glory
Parasite

Production Design

1917
The Irishman
Jojo Rabbit
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Parasite

Film Editing

Ford v Ferrari
The Irishman
Jojo Rabbit
Joker
Parasite

Cinematography

1917
The Irishman
Joker
The Lighthouse
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Visual Effects

1917
Avengers: Endgame
The Irishman
The Lion King
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

Costume Design

Jojo Rabbit
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
The Irishman
Joker
Little Women

Sound Mixing

1917
Ad Astra
Ford v Ferrari
Joker
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Sound Editing

1917
Ford v Ferrari
Joker
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

Original Score

1917
Joker
Little Women
Marriage Story
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

Documentary Feature

American Factory
The Cave
The Edge of Democracy
For Sama
Honeyland

Documentary Short Subject

In the Absence
Learning to Skateboard in a Warzone (If You’re a Girl)
Life Overtakes Me
St. Louis Superman
Walk Run Cha-Cha

Makeup and Hairstyling

1917
Bombshell
Joker
Judy
Maleficent: Mistress of Evil

Animated Feature Film

How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World
I Lost My Body
Klaus
Missing Link
Toy Story 4

Animated Short Film

Dcera (Daughter)
Hair Love
Kitbull
Memorable
Sister

Live-Action Short Film

Brotherhood
Nefta Football Club
The Neighbors’ Window
Saria
A Sister

Original Song

"I Can't Let You Throw Yourself Away" - Toy Story 4
"(I'm Gonna) Love Me Again" - Rocketman
"I'm Standing With You" - Breakthrough
"Into the Unknown" - Frozen 2
"Stand Up" - Harriet

Still Servant
01-13-2020, 05:17 PM
Overall, I'm happy with the nominations. There were more than a few surprises though.

I would have liked to see Knives Out get a Best Picture nomination. I was really rooting for Adam Sandler, but I knew he wasn't going to get nominated. I'm surprised J-Lo and Eddie Murphy didn't get nominated. Both seemed to be gaining steam. The same for Akwafina and Egerton. I know a lot of people are going to scream racism in Akwafina's case, but the main culprit is both of their films came out too damn early. You can throw in Lupita Nyong'o's performance in Us as well. Release your films later!

I'm sure the most talked about snub is going to be Greta Gerwig and the fact that no women were nominated for Best Director. When you have a stacked year like we have this year, it really shouldn't even be a discussion, but it will be. Speaking of films directed by women, I'm really surprised to see that Portrait of a Lady on Fire got completely shut out. I'm not sure what happened there.

Maybe the biggest shock of the morning was Robert De Niro being left out of the Best Actor category. I would have also liked to see The Lighthouse get a least one acting nomination.

I was happy to see Klaus get nominated for Best Animated Film. I was also really happy to see Scarlett Johansson get two nominations. I was, of course, elated to see all the Parasite love, as well as Roger Deakins getting another nomination.

Ricky
01-13-2020, 07:43 PM
Another surprise: no Frozen II for Best Animated Feature. Even though it came out in November (and wasn't quite as good as Frozen), I thought that'd be a lock for sure.

mae
01-13-2020, 09:18 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltmQp6nQ8eE

Still Servant
01-14-2020, 06:07 PM
Tiebreaker Reminder:


We added the second tiebreacker mechanic last year.

Basically, everybody will submit their choices like usual, except they will also add which film they think will win the most Oscars and give a number. In case of a tie, whomever has the closest number without going over is the winner. If the tie remains, the person who submits their ballot earliest is the winner.

Mattrick
01-15-2020, 07:15 AM
These are my early predictions for some categories though there are still several films I have to see.



Best Picture

Joker

Actor in a Leading Role

Joaquin Phoenix - Joker

Actress in a Leading Role

Scarlett Johansson - Marriage Story

Actress in a Supporting Role

Laura Dern - Marriage Story

Actor in a Supporting Role

Brad Pitt - Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Directing

Sam Mendes - 1917

Adapted Screenplay

The Irishman

Original Screenplay

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

International Feature Film

Parasite

Production Design

1917

Cinematography

1917

Visual Effects

1917

Sound Mixing

1917

Sound Editing

Ford v Ferrari

Original Score

Joker

Animated Feature Film

Toy Story 4

Still Servant
01-15-2020, 06:44 PM
Joker for BP would be a surprise.

Mattrick
01-15-2020, 06:55 PM
I don't think so. It made more money than the rest combined (x2) and earned the most nominations and tons of critical praise. It's a populous film many people seemed to really like that became more iconic than the rest of them from the trailer alone. I'd say it's the front runner in many ways. Parasite is historically ruled out due to International Film category. Jojo is just lucky to be there, same with Ford v Ferrari. If I had to rank them in the odds I think they have of winning I'd go:


1. Joker
2. 1917
3. The Irishman
4. Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
5. Marriage Story
6. Little Women
7. Ford v Ferrari
8. Parasite
9. Jojo Rabbit

I'm sure it's also a film almost every Academy member saw, which is very important when it comes to voting.

Ricky
01-16-2020, 10:37 AM
Yeah, in October I would've said chances of Joker winning BP were pretty slim, but I actually think it's hot a real shot: a few awards under its belt, great buzz and reviews, super nice box office returns, so it might end up surprising people. Especially with younger and more diverse members invited to join the Academy, things seem to be getting less stuffy and more open to mainstream consideration.

DanHocker
01-16-2020, 11:14 AM
Yeah, in October I would've said chances of Joker winning BP were pretty slim, but I actually think it's hot a real shot: a few awards under its belt, great buzz and reviews, super nice box office returns, so it might end up surprising people. Especially with younger and more diverse members invited to join the Academy, things seem to be getting less stuffy and more open to mainstream consideration.

I think people are miss remembering the reviews for Joker. It has a 69% on Rotten Tomatoes, which puts it something like 15% lower than the next lowest movie on RT. It's also the only movie on the BP list that isn't certified fresh on RT. Compare the reviews for Joker to something like Parasite, and the movie is in a whole different world. Parasite has an astounding 99% on RT from critics and a really strong 93% from the audience. Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against Joker, I haven't even had a chance to see it yet (was just too busy when it was in theaters). I just think "critically" it's probably the weakest one on this list.

webstar1000
01-16-2020, 11:17 AM
Yeah, in October I would've said chances of Joker winning BP were pretty slim, but I actually think it's hot a real shot: a few awards under its belt, great buzz and reviews, super nice box office returns, so it might end up surprising people. Especially with younger and more diverse members invited to join the Academy, things seem to be getting less stuffy and more open to mainstream consideration.

I think people are miss remembering the reviews for Joker. It has a 69% on Rotten Tomatoes, which puts it something like 15% lower than the next lowest movie on RT. It's also the only movie on the BP list that isn't certified fresh on RT. Compare the reviews for Joker to something like Parasite, and the movie is in a whole different world. Parasite has an astounding 99% on RT from critics and a really strong 93% from the audience. Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against Joker, I haven't even had a chance to see it yet (was just too busy when it was in theaters). I just think "critically" it's probably the weakest one on this list.

That will play no part here... I dont think... if you remember people were complaining about it glorifying violence which led to some of those reviews. Joker or 1917 will win... I hope it is Joker. I think it was a better film.

Dan. Do yourself a favor and see it NOW. It is far from the weakest...

mae
01-16-2020, 11:22 AM
I think it's a three-way race between Joker, Parasite, and 1917.

DanHocker
01-16-2020, 11:33 AM
Yeah, in October I would've said chances of Joker winning BP were pretty slim, but I actually think it's hot a real shot: a few awards under its belt, great buzz and reviews, super nice box office returns, so it might end up surprising people. Especially with younger and more diverse members invited to join the Academy, things seem to be getting less stuffy and more open to mainstream consideration.

I think people are miss remembering the reviews for Joker. It has a 69% on Rotten Tomatoes, which puts it something like 15% lower than the next lowest movie on RT. It's also the only movie on the BP list that isn't certified fresh on RT. Compare the reviews for Joker to something like Parasite, and the movie is in a whole different world. Parasite has an astounding 99% on RT from critics and a really strong 93% from the audience. Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against Joker, I haven't even had a chance to see it yet (was just too busy when it was in theaters). I just think "critically" it's probably the weakest one on this list.

That will play no part here... I dont think... if you remember people were complaining about it glorifying violence which led to some of those reviews. Joker or 1917 will win... I hope it is Joker. I think it was a better film.

Dan. Do yourself a favor and see it NOW. It is far from the weakest...

I think critical reviews will definitely play a part in it winning an Oscar for sure. Those reviews you're talking about were mostly talking point news articles. The ones I'm talking about mostly just didn't find it interesting or entertaining. Or really felt like it was trying to mimic Scorcese but didn't have the depth of his movies, so it just felt like a cheap imitation. Almost none of the reviews I've read (that weren't click bait articles) mentioned glorifying violence at all.

Personally I think 1917 has the best shot here. It should probably be Parasite, but Parasite had such a limited release I just don't think enough people saw Parasite. 1917 is super fresh in people's minds though, which will play a big part in peoples voting.

webstar1000
01-16-2020, 11:52 AM
Yeah, in October I would've said chances of Joker winning BP were pretty slim, but I actually think it's hot a real shot: a few awards under its belt, great buzz and reviews, super nice box office returns, so it might end up surprising people. Especially with younger and more diverse members invited to join the Academy, things seem to be getting less stuffy and more open to mainstream consideration.

I think people are miss remembering the reviews for Joker. It has a 69% on Rotten Tomatoes, which puts it something like 15% lower than the next lowest movie on RT. It's also the only movie on the BP list that isn't certified fresh on RT. Compare the reviews for Joker to something like Parasite, and the movie is in a whole different world. Parasite has an astounding 99% on RT from critics and a really strong 93% from the audience. Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against Joker, I haven't even had a chance to see it yet (was just too busy when it was in theaters). I just think "critically" it's probably the weakest one on this list.

That will play no part here... I dont think... if you remember people were complaining about it glorifying violence which led to some of those reviews. Joker or 1917 will win... I hope it is Joker. I think it was a better film.

Dan. Do yourself a favor and see it NOW. It is far from the weakest...

I think critical reviews will definitely play a part in it winning an Oscar for sure. Those reviews you're talking about were mostly talking point news articles. The ones I'm talking about mostly just didn't find it interesting or entertaining. Or really felt like it was trying to mimic Scorcese but didn't have the depth of his movies, so it just felt like a cheap imitation. Almost none of the reviews I've read (that weren't click bait articles) mentioned glorifying violence at all.

Personally I think 1917 has the best shot here. It should probably be Parasite, but Parasite had such a limited release I just don't think enough people saw Parasite. 1917 is super fresh in people's minds though, which will play a big part in peoples voting.

Dan... how can you say it should probably be Parasite my man? You have not even seen Joker. YOU HAVE TO. ITs out now.. man watch it. Also, Not interesting or entertaining is total bullshit. I have seen it 3 times! lol Plus I have seen them all... Joker or 1917 wins. Mark my words.

DanHocker
01-16-2020, 12:21 PM
Yeah, in October I would've said chances of Joker winning BP were pretty slim, but I actually think it's hot a real shot: a few awards under its belt, great buzz and reviews, super nice box office returns, so it might end up surprising people. Especially with younger and more diverse members invited to join the Academy, things seem to be getting less stuffy and more open to mainstream consideration.

I think people are miss remembering the reviews for Joker. It has a 69% on Rotten Tomatoes, which puts it something like 15% lower than the next lowest movie on RT. It's also the only movie on the BP list that isn't certified fresh on RT. Compare the reviews for Joker to something like Parasite, and the movie is in a whole different world. Parasite has an astounding 99% on RT from critics and a really strong 93% from the audience. Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against Joker, I haven't even had a chance to see it yet (was just too busy when it was in theaters). I just think "critically" it's probably the weakest one on this list.

That will play no part here... I dont think... if you remember people were complaining about it glorifying violence which led to some of those reviews. Joker or 1917 will win... I hope it is Joker. I think it was a better film.

Dan. Do yourself a favor and see it NOW. It is far from the weakest...

I think critical reviews will definitely play a part in it winning an Oscar for sure. Those reviews you're talking about were mostly talking point news articles. The ones I'm talking about mostly just didn't find it interesting or entertaining. Or really felt like it was trying to mimic Scorcese but didn't have the depth of his movies, so it just felt like a cheap imitation. Almost none of the reviews I've read (that weren't click bait articles) mentioned glorifying violence at all.

Personally I think 1917 has the best shot here. It should probably be Parasite, but Parasite had such a limited release I just don't think enough people saw Parasite. 1917 is super fresh in people's minds though, which will play a big part in peoples voting.

Dan... how can you say it should probably be Parasite my man? You have not even seen Joker. YOU HAVE TO. ITs out now.. man watch it. Also, Not interesting or entertaining is total bullshit. I have seen it 3 times! lol Plus I have seen them all... Joker or 1917 wins. Mark my words.

I'm not saying I think Parasite will win, I just think it should win. I haven't seen 1917 yet either, though it's on my list. I will see Joker as well, but I think it's unlikely I will like it as much as you. The problem here is that I've seen Parasite, and while it's not my favorite movie, I think it's a near perfect movie, and I can't imagine Joker being even close to as good as it is.

Mostly the reason I think it'll be 1917 though is because of the way the Oscar's voting system works. Also rarely does the Oscar actually go to the best movie, often times it's really the 2nd best movie (because of the way the voting system works).

webstar1000
01-16-2020, 12:28 PM
Yeah, in October I would've said chances of Joker winning BP were pretty slim, but I actually think it's hot a real shot: a few awards under its belt, great buzz and reviews, super nice box office returns, so it might end up surprising people. Especially with younger and more diverse members invited to join the Academy, things seem to be getting less stuffy and more open to mainstream consideration.

I think people are miss remembering the reviews for Joker. It has a 69% on Rotten Tomatoes, which puts it something like 15% lower than the next lowest movie on RT. It's also the only movie on the BP list that isn't certified fresh on RT. Compare the reviews for Joker to something like Parasite, and the movie is in a whole different world. Parasite has an astounding 99% on RT from critics and a really strong 93% from the audience. Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against Joker, I haven't even had a chance to see it yet (was just too busy when it was in theaters). I just think "critically" it's probably the weakest one on this list.

That will play no part here... I dont think... if you remember people were complaining about it glorifying violence which led to some of those reviews. Joker or 1917 will win... I hope it is Joker. I think it was a better film.

Dan. Do yourself a favor and see it NOW. It is far from the weakest...

I think critical reviews will definitely play a part in it winning an Oscar for sure. Those reviews you're talking about were mostly talking point news articles. The ones I'm talking about mostly just didn't find it interesting or entertaining. Or really felt like it was trying to mimic Scorcese but didn't have the depth of his movies, so it just felt like a cheap imitation. Almost none of the reviews I've read (that weren't click bait articles) mentioned glorifying violence at all.

Personally I think 1917 has the best shot here. It should probably be Parasite, but Parasite had such a limited release I just don't think enough people saw Parasite. 1917 is super fresh in people's minds though, which will play a big part in peoples voting.

Dan... how can you say it should probably be Parasite my man? You have not even seen Joker. YOU HAVE TO. ITs out now.. man watch it. Also, Not interesting or entertaining is total bullshit. I have seen it 3 times! lol Plus I have seen them all... Joker or 1917 wins. Mark my words.

I'm not saying I think Parasite will win, I just think it should win. I haven't seen 1917 yet either, though it's on my list. I will see Joker as well, but I think it's unlikely I will like it as much as you. The problem here is that I've seen Parasite, and while it's not my favorite movie, I think it's a near perfect movie, and I can't imagine Joker being even close to as good as it is.

Mostly the reason I think it'll be 1917 though is because of the way the Oscar's voting system works. Also rarely does the Oscar actually go to the best movie, often times it's really the 2nd best movie (because of the way the voting system works).

Again.. see Joker.

DanHocker
01-16-2020, 12:39 PM
Yeah, in October I would've said chances of Joker winning BP were pretty slim, but I actually think it's hot a real shot: a few awards under its belt, great buzz and reviews, super nice box office returns, so it might end up surprising people. Especially with younger and more diverse members invited to join the Academy, things seem to be getting less stuffy and more open to mainstream consideration.

I think people are miss remembering the reviews for Joker. It has a 69% on Rotten Tomatoes, which puts it something like 15% lower than the next lowest movie on RT. It's also the only movie on the BP list that isn't certified fresh on RT. Compare the reviews for Joker to something like Parasite, and the movie is in a whole different world. Parasite has an astounding 99% on RT from critics and a really strong 93% from the audience. Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against Joker, I haven't even had a chance to see it yet (was just too busy when it was in theaters). I just think "critically" it's probably the weakest one on this list.

That will play no part here... I dont think... if you remember people were complaining about it glorifying violence which led to some of those reviews. Joker or 1917 will win... I hope it is Joker. I think it was a better film.

Dan. Do yourself a favor and see it NOW. It is far from the weakest...

I think critical reviews will definitely play a part in it winning an Oscar for sure. Those reviews you're talking about were mostly talking point news articles. The ones I'm talking about mostly just didn't find it interesting or entertaining. Or really felt like it was trying to mimic Scorcese but didn't have the depth of his movies, so it just felt like a cheap imitation. Almost none of the reviews I've read (that weren't click bait articles) mentioned glorifying violence at all.

Personally I think 1917 has the best shot here. It should probably be Parasite, but Parasite had such a limited release I just don't think enough people saw Parasite. 1917 is super fresh in people's minds though, which will play a big part in peoples voting.

Dan... how can you say it should probably be Parasite my man? You have not even seen Joker. YOU HAVE TO. ITs out now.. man watch it. Also, Not interesting or entertaining is total bullshit. I have seen it 3 times! lol Plus I have seen them all... Joker or 1917 wins. Mark my words.

I'm not saying I think Parasite will win, I just think it should win. I haven't seen 1917 yet either, though it's on my list. I will see Joker as well, but I think it's unlikely I will like it as much as you. The problem here is that I've seen Parasite, and while it's not my favorite movie, I think it's a near perfect movie, and I can't imagine Joker being even close to as good as it is.

Mostly the reason I think it'll be 1917 though is because of the way the Oscar's voting system works. Also rarely does the Oscar actually go to the best movie, often times it's really the 2nd best movie (because of the way the voting system works).

Again.. see Joker.

I intend to, but I doubt it will change my opinion.

DanHocker
01-16-2020, 12:41 PM
As a side note, this is the first year in a while that I actually find nearly all the BP nominations to be at the very least interesting to me. There's only 2 movies on the list that I just have no interest in at all, which is super unusual for me when it comes to the Oscars.

Still Servant
01-16-2020, 05:04 PM
Returning this year:

Returning this year will be the online ballot submission I created. Of course, ballots can still be submitted here.

Where it says "name" just put your DT.org handle, or designate in some way that you are from the Dark Tower boards. I will be sharing the same contest form with other friends and I don't want to get them confused.

https://tinyurl.com/OscarContest2020
(https://tinyurl.com/OscarContest2020)

Still Servant
01-16-2020, 05:09 PM
I don't think so. It made more money than the rest combined (x2) and earned the most nominations and tons of critical praise. It's a populous film many people seemed to really like that became more iconic than the rest of them from the trailer alone. I'd say it's the front runner in many ways. Parasite is historically ruled out due to International Film category. Jojo is just lucky to be there, same with Ford v Ferrari. If I had to rank them in the odds I think they have of winning I'd go:


1. Joker
2. 1917
3. The Irishman
4. Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
5. Marriage Story
6. Little Women
7. Ford v Ferrari
8. Parasite
9. Jojo Rabbit

I'm sure it's also a film almost every Academy member saw, which is very important when it comes to voting.

See: The Dark Knight.

I'm really surprised so many people aren't giving Once Upon a Time in Hollywood more of a chance. It's a film ABOUT Hollywood and movies directed by one of the more well-respected directors the industry has to offer.

I agree with Web, definitely give Joker a shot. Just keep in mind that Web gave Polar a 10 out of 10 and anointed it the best film of the year earlier in the year. :P

webstar1000
01-16-2020, 05:15 PM
Returning this year:

Returning this year will be the online ballot submission I created. Of course, ballots can still be submitted here.

Where it says "name" just put your DT.org handle, or designate in some way that you are from the Dark Tower boards. I will be sharing the same contest form with other friends and I don't want to get them confused.

https://tinyurl.com/OscarContest2020
(https://tinyurl.com/OscarContest2020)

So cool! Man that was well done and a lot of fun! Thank you. I did my best but I let emotion come into it. I loved certain films this year and my answers reflect it. We shall see! You will post the who did the best to the worst?


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Still Servant
01-16-2020, 06:14 PM
Hell yeah, I will! Thanks for playing and good luck. This is the 11th year we are running the contest. Here is a look at the past winners. I am the defending champ. Heather was on a New England Patriots like run for a while, but has been in a little bit of a funk recently. Feev says he is going to play every year and then "forgets."

Past results:

2010 results
Heather - 15
Servant - 14
Turtlex - 14
Cody - 8
Seymour - 8
Odetta - 4

2011 results
Heather - 17
Servant - 15
Path - 14
Mattrick - 14
Ricky - 12
Merlin - 11
Feev - 8

2012 results
Servant - 14
Heather - 14
Ricky - 14
Stockerlone - 12
Shannon - 11
Thorin- 10
Mattrick - 9
Feev - 8
Garrell - 8
Odetta - 5
Mystima - 4

2013 results
Heather - 20
Servant - 17
Ricky - 15
Matt - 14
Stockerlone - 13
Feev - 12
Mae - 10

2014 results
Heather - 22
Ricky - 20
Servant - 19
Randall - 16
Mae - 13
Matt - 10
Mystima - 10
Merlin - 7
Stockerlone - 6

2015 results
T-Dogz - 20
George Monkey - 19
Lurker - 19
Ricky - 18
Servant - 17
Feev - 17
Heather - 15
Shannon - 15
Mae - 13
Stocker - 9
Matt - 6

2016 results
Heather - 17 (winner by tiebreaker - Mad Max 6)
Servant - 17
Mae - 16
T-Dogz - 16
Ricky - 15
Matt - 15
Lurker - 14
Stocker - 8

2017 results
TDogz - 16 (winner by tiebreaker)
Doc Z - 16
Tommy - 16
Ricky - 15
Lurker - 15
Servant - 15
Heather - 14
Mae -14
Matt - 13
RF - 13
Stocker - 8
Merlin - 7

2018 results
Randall Flagg - 21 (Tiebreaker - The Shape of Water 4) Co-winner
Lurker - 21 (Tiebreaker - The Shape of Water 4) Co-winner
T-Dogz - 20
Servant - 20
Matt - 19
Mae - 19
Heather - 17
John Huerta - 16
Ricky -13
Doctor Zaius - 10

2019 results
Servant - 18
Lurker - 15
Matt - 15
T-Dogz - 15
Mae - 14
Heather - 13
Ricky - 12
Garrell -12
Randall - 9
Stocker - 6

Mattrick
01-16-2020, 08:05 PM
See: The Dark Knight.

I'm really surprised so many people aren't giving Once Upon a Time in Hollywood more of a chance. It's a film ABOUT Hollywood and movies directed by one of the more well-respected directors the industry has to offer.

I agree with Web, definitely give Joker a shot. Just keep in mind that Web gave Polar a 10 out of 10 and anointed it the best film of the year earlier in the year. :P

The Dark Knight is exactly why Joker should be considered the favourite. People have been wanting a film like Joker to get the big award since The Dark Knight. And unlike The Dark Knight it got nominations for Best Picture, Best Director, and Best Adapted Screenplay, which shows people in all divisions of the academy really liked the movie enough to vote it onto the shortlist in 11 categories. Hollywood has a shot, sure, which is why I have it ranked at #4 in my own odds. But between 1917 no doubt getting top pick from many technical members of the academy and The Irishman will probably get major support from the old crowd, and with Joker no doubt appealing most to all the young members that went into the Academy recently, Hollywood I don't think will be able to make up that gap....especially if Little Women gets a lot of support from the female Academy members.

Also, don't discount how HARD the media tried to sink Joker before it came out. There could be many people in Hollywood quite sick of the media's behavior who could push Joker up just to spite them. That's why I want Joker to win. It is the ultimate triumph of the year, even if it isn't the best film. a 50M budget film making over a billion dollars, a major risk for a comic book film that the media tried to tank with fear mongering and trying to cause hysteria and may end up winning best picture AND will probably end up outgrossing Rise of Skywalker which cost over 400M. Joker is everything Hollywood wants in a film. Don't sleep on it.

Mattrick
01-16-2020, 08:21 PM
Wow, this is Thomas Newman's FIFTEENTH Oscar nomination and he has yet to win one. He's the Roger Deakins of composing. Would be nice to see him finally win one working for 1917 which Deakins shot.

webstar1000
01-17-2020, 03:34 AM
See: The Dark Knight.

I'm really surprised so many people aren't giving Once Upon a Time in Hollywood more of a chance. It's a film ABOUT Hollywood and movies directed by one of the more well-respected directors the industry has to offer.

I agree with Web, definitely give Joker a shot. Just keep in mind that Web gave Polar a 10 out of 10 and anointed it the best film of the year earlier in the year. :P

The Dark Knight is exactly why Joker should be considered the favourite. People have been wanting a film like Joker to get the big award since The Dark Knight. And unlike The Dark Knight it got nominations for Best Picture, Best Director, and Best Adapted Screenplay, which shows people in all divisions of the academy really liked the movie enough to vote it onto the shortlist in 11 categories. Hollywood has a shot, sure, which is why I have it ranked at #4 in my own odds. But between 1917 no doubt getting top pick from many technical members of the academy and The Irishman will probably get major support from the old crowd, and with Joker no doubt appealing most to all the young members that went into the Academy recently, Hollywood I don't think will be able to make up that gap....especially if Little Women gets a lot of support from the female Academy members.

Also, don't discount how HARD the media tried to sink Joker before it came out. There could be many people in Hollywood quite sick of the media's behavior who could push Joker up just to spite them. That's why I want Joker to win. It is the ultimate triumph of the year, even if it isn't the best film. a 50M budget film making over a billion dollars, a major risk for a comic book film that the media tried to tank with fear mongering and trying to cause hysteria and may end up winning best picture AND will probably end up outgrossing Rise of Skywalker which cost over 400M. Joker is everything Hollywood wants in a film. Don't sleep on it.

This. Cannot agree more.


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Heather19
01-17-2020, 06:00 AM
Hell yeah, I will! Thanks for playing and good luck. This is the 11th year we are running the contest. Here is a look at the past winners. I am the defending champ. Heather was on a New England Patriots like run for a while, but has been in a little bit of a funk recently. Feev says he is going to play every year and then "forgets."



11 years! Wow, how time flies. Last year was my worst year yet. But then there was that year that I did get 22 out of 24 right :D

I guess I should start thinking about my picks. I didn't realize that I planned a weekend getaway for the weekend of the Oscars. On the plus side I wont have to work monday so maybe I'll actually be able to stay up and watch the whole thing.

fernandito
01-17-2020, 08:40 AM
...Feev says he is going to play every year and then "forgets."


Hey you listen here you little shi---- nah you're right, I got nothing.

OK, I will play this year, FOR SURE, or I'll forget the face of my father and Uber it out west.

mae
01-17-2020, 12:08 PM
https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2020/01/stephen-king-oscar-comments-diversity/605101/

It started, as it so often does, with a series of tweets from someone famous enough to need a social-media manager. Early Tuesday morning, the author Stephen King logged on to Twitter to share his thoughts about the fact that the Oscar nominees, announced the day before, included no female directors and a single actor of color. “As a writer, I am allowed to nominate in just 3 categories: Best Picture, Best Adapted Screenplay, and Best Original Screenplay. For me, the diversity issue—as it applies to individual actors and directors, anyway—did not come up. That said,” King added, “I would never consider diversity in matters of art. Only quality. It seems to me that to do otherwise would be wrong.”

And thus the usual forces were set in motion: responses from disappointed peers and moviegoers alike, and an apparent backtracking of the ill-conceived comments within the same day. “You can’t win awards if you’re shut out of the game,” King wrote, acknowledging the structural challenges that many creators face. For those who have followed the industry’s responses to widespread calls for greater diversity, especially since the #OscarsSoWhite campaign began five years ago, cycles like this are a familiar part of the awards season. After a Golden Globes that featured many presenters of color but a primarily white set of winners, this year’s Oscar and BAFTA Awards nominations didn’t deviate much from a well-worn script either. (Cynthia Erivo, the only Oscar-nominated actor of color this year, stars in HBO’s adaptation of King’s The Outsider and offered an implicit critique of the author’s tweets when asked about them on Wednesday.)

The Academy’s perceived snubs—of actors such as Us’s Lupita Nyong’o and Hustlers’ Jennifer Lopez, along with directors such as Little Women’s Greta Gerwig and The Farewell’s Lulu Wang—are as unfortunate as they are predictable. And comments like King’s reveal a major reason why: Diversity is too often discussed as something separate from, or even in conflict with, artistic virtue. It is treated as an abstract concept meant to materialize without industry gatekeepers and Oscar voters, such as King, challenging their own possibly narrow views and instituting different practices. Put more plainly, the lack of representation is regularly talked about as a problem, but one for someone else to solve and for other institutions to address.

Consider, for example, the equivocal responses that prominent white filmmakers have given throughout the years when asked about the glaring demographics of their industry—and of their own works. In 2016, at the height of the #OscarsSoWhite campaign’s first awards season, the industry veterans Joel and Ethan Coen answered a question about diversity with “matching groans,” with Joel telling The Daily Beast that the complaints overestimated the awards’ impact. “I don’t think they even matter much from an economic point of view,” he said, before adding, “Diversity’s important. The Oscars are not that important.” This is, of course, demonstrably false: Oscar nods and wins often influence what kinds of films get financed in the future and can even lead to “stratospheric increases in salary” for actors in particular. At the time of the interview, the Coen brothers had won four Oscars and been nominated for 10.

Perhaps the most pernicious factor contributing to such deflections is the oft-repeated belief that the industry is an impartial adjudicator, or that things just pan out the way they do by chance. King is hardly alone in his views. In 2016, the second year in a row that saw the Academy nominate only white actors, the director Quentin Tarantino answered a question about the Hateful Eight actor Samuel L. Jackson not receiving a nomination with a mealy-mouthed assessment. “My only guess, frankly, is that [voters] take him for granted. That would be my only guess," Tarantino said, later adding that his own films actually represented racial progress within the Western genre. Tarantino’s latest movie, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, which isn’t a Western, has been nominated for 10 Oscars this year and was criticized for casting an all-white ensemble.

Tim Burton, who directed Jackson in another racially homogenous film, compared concerns about all-white casts with the existence of genres created precisely because of Hollywood exclusion: “I remember back when I was a child watching The Brady Bunch and they started to get all politically correct. Like, OK, let’s have an Asian child and a black,” he said in a 2016 interview with Bustle. “I grew up watching blaxploitation movies, right? And I said, that’s great. I didn’t go like, OK, there should be more white people in these movies."

So often, though, even Hollywood gatekeepers who have expressed a theoretical wish for a more inclusive entertainment landscape seem resigned to maintaining the status quo within their own field of influence. Martin Scorsese, who in 1993 wrote a letter to The New York Times arguing that “diversity guarantees our cultural survival,” rejected a question last year about the lack of prominent roles for women in his films. “That’s not even a valid point,” he said while promoting his latest, The Irishman, which received 10 Oscar nods. “It’s a question I’ve had for so many years. It is a waste of everybody’s time,” later adding that his films did include these sorts of roles “if a story calls for a female lead.” It’s a commonly raised point—that storytellers should put the needs of the story first—but one that often frames diversity as a chore, or in clinical terms rather than considering its narrative possibilities through an imaginative lens. “You don’t sit down and ... say, ‘I’m going to write a story that involves four black people, three Jews, and a dog’—right?” Joel Coen said in 2016.

There are, of course, ways to shift the Hollywood landscape without radically changing one’s own art, and many Hollywood heavyweights do use their cachet to open doors for others. But the seeming reluctance of men such as King, Tarantino, and Burton to conceive of themselves as figures of influence obscures their responsibility to the broader entertainment community. Despite often being arbiters of both financial resources and soft power, these artists continue to place industry-wide concerns at arm’s length. As my colleague David Sims wrote, “Academy members themselves have the power to expand what kinds of movies are considered Oscar contenders. One step would be to reject the preemptive hand-waving doled out to so many acclaimed films, many of them artsier or smaller-scale, that supposedly will never play with Oscar voters for little reason other than tradition.” Until Oscar voters acknowledge—and reconfigure—their circumscribed visions of artistry, the rest of Hollywood (and the moviegoing public) will be subject to the same wearying cycles.

mae
01-17-2020, 08:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L51rz7wmPac

Still Servant
01-18-2020, 07:57 AM
See: The Dark Knight.

I'm really surprised so many people aren't giving Once Upon a Time in Hollywood more of a chance. It's a film ABOUT Hollywood and movies directed by one of the more well-respected directors the industry has to offer.

I agree with Web, definitely give Joker a shot. Just keep in mind that Web gave Polar a 10 out of 10 and anointed it the best film of the year earlier in the year. :P

The Dark Knight is exactly why Joker should be considered the favourite. People have been wanting a film like Joker to get the big award since The Dark Knight. And unlike The Dark Knight it got nominations for Best Picture, Best Director, and Best Adapted Screenplay, which shows people in all divisions of the academy really liked the movie enough to vote it onto the shortlist in 11 categories. Hollywood has a shot, sure, which is why I have it ranked at #4 in my own odds. But between 1917 no doubt getting top pick from many technical members of the academy and The Irishman will probably get major support from the old crowd, and with Joker no doubt appealing most to all the young members that went into the Academy recently, Hollywood I don't think will be able to make up that gap....especially if Little Women gets a lot of support from the female Academy members.

Also, don't discount how HARD the media tried to sink Joker before it came out. There could be many people in Hollywood quite sick of the media's behavior who could push Joker up just to spite them. That's why I want Joker to win. It is the ultimate triumph of the year, even if it isn't the best film. a 50M budget film making over a billion dollars, a major risk for a comic book film that the media tried to tank with fear mongering and trying to cause hysteria and may end up winning best picture AND will probably end up outgrossing Rise of Skywalker which cost over 400M. Joker is everything Hollywood wants in a film. Don't sleep on it.

Just because people have been wanting a film like Dark Knight and Joker to win doesn't mean it's going to happen. It's got a good shot at it, but I will be surprised.

Hunchback Jack
01-18-2020, 10:49 AM
I tend to agree. While movies like Joker are getting more recognition, I still don’t think they are the kinds of movies that win best picture. I suspect those who nominated it will feel they’ve given Joker it’s reward by nominating it.

Phoenix winning best actor is another story, however. I think he’s in with a good chance there.

Mattrick
01-18-2020, 12:12 PM
I wouldn't be thinking Joker if another film had a lot of steam behind it, but I don't think any film right now has clear favourite written on it. 1917 maybe, but I can see a lot of people not enjoying that film.

Still Servant
01-19-2020, 07:01 AM
All 4 Actor categories are locks at the moment.

Still Servant
01-20-2020, 07:38 AM
After Parasite's win for Best Ensemble last night at the SAGs and the fact that the cast got a standing ovation just for coming out and introducing the package for the film, I'm starting to think we are all sleeping on Parasite for BP. The film seems to be incredibly popular with those within the industry. It's my favorite film of the year, so I wouldn't have a problem with it winning Best Picture.

mae
01-20-2020, 07:45 AM
Not me, I've thought for a while it had a real shot.

Still Servant
01-20-2020, 07:48 AM
Not me, I've thought for a while it had a real shot.

I kind of thought the Academy would just give it Best International Film and give BP do another film, but I'm starting to rethink that logic. Parasite seemed to really resonate with people.

mae
01-20-2020, 07:52 AM
Yes, more so than Roma.

Ricky
01-20-2020, 03:01 PM
After Parasite's win for Best Ensemble last night at the SAGs and the fact that the cast got a standing ovation just for coming out and introducing the package for the film...

I was really surprised by that as well. The movie seems to have a lot more steam than I thought. I'm seeing it on the 8th, so I'm curious what all the fuss is about.

fernandito
01-20-2020, 03:03 PM
I live in the Koreatown part of Los Angeles. When I went to catch the movie at a local theater, literally every single person in that theater was Korean (or Asian at the very least) except for me and my date.

It was awesome, like it added to the experience :lol:

Still Servant
01-20-2020, 03:03 PM
After Parasite's win for Best Ensemble last night at the SAGs and the fact that the cast got a standing ovation just for coming out and introducing the package for the film...

I was really surprised by that as well. The movie seems to have a lot more steam than I thought. I'm seeing it on the 8th, so I'm curious what all the fuss is about.

This is the point where I start to worry that it's going to get super hyped for people. Hopefully, that doesn't happen.

Mattrick
01-20-2020, 08:08 PM
Roma had tons of Steam last year too. It won lots of the big awards. But the Best Foreign Film aspect...I'm not picking another Foreign Film for best picture after Roma because of that.

Mattrick
01-20-2020, 08:09 PM
I live in the Koreatown part of Los Angeles. When I went to catch the movie at a local theater, literally every single person in that theater was Korean (or Asian at the very least) except for me and my date.

It was awesome, like it added to the experience :lol:


My good friend lives in Seoul. That's his experience for every movie lol

mae
01-21-2020, 02:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sRE3zJylnU

Mattrick
01-21-2020, 02:16 PM
"In the past ten years, the only non-English language films nominated for best picture are Amour and the aforementioned Parasite."


https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41GpJphb7qL._SL500_AC_SS350_.jpg


oof

mae
01-21-2020, 02:33 PM
Yeah he added a note about Roma in the comments. But the point is that it happens very rarely. True, it has been happening more and more, three times this past decade. That's great news, I hope it happens even more often. Prior to the 2010s, in all of Oscars history only seven foreign films have been nominated for Best Picture (eight if you count Babel): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foreign-language_films_nominated_for_Academy_Awards

But three movies in ten years?

Mattrick
01-21-2020, 03:13 PM
It's a regional awards show. Most people don't have access to foreign films. The one thing a lot of people seem to forget is that many Academy members are still working...they don't have time to see everything that's wide released, let alone more obscure foreign films.

Still, most countries have it easier than Canada. Our films never get nominated for shit unless they're in French. Room is the closest to an English Canadian film to get nominated for Best Picture, but that was also co-produced with Ireland and England.

Still Servant
01-21-2020, 05:13 PM
I live in the Koreatown part of Los Angeles. When I went to catch the movie at a local theater, literally every single person in that theater was Korean (or Asian at the very least) except for me and my date.

It was awesome, like it added to the experience :lol:


My good friend lives in Seoul. That's his experience for every movie lol

Is he the one that gives you the posters that you are going to "send" me someday. :lol:

mae
01-21-2020, 06:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dip-8yqq9ww

johnny981
01-25-2020, 10:47 AM
Here are my picks for the 92nd academy awards and they are-

1. Best Picture: 1917
2. Best Actor: Joaquin Phoenix-Joker
3. Best Actress: Renee Zellweger, "Judy"
4. Best Supporting Actor: Brad Pitt," Once Upon a time...in Hollywood"
5.Best Supporting Actress: Laura Dern," A Marriage "
6 Best Director: Sam Mendes,"1917"
7.Adapted Screenplay-Little Women
8.Original Screenplay-"Once Upon a Time...in Hollywood," Quentin Tarentino
9. Animate Feature-Toy Story 4
10. Original Score-Thomas Newsman,"1917"
11.Original Song-Toy Story 4
12.Cinematography-Roger Deakins,"1917"
13. Costume Design: Little Women
14. Animated Short: Hair Love
15. Visual effects: 1917
16. Live Action short film: Nefta Football Club
17. Documentary short subject: St. Louis Superman
18. Documentary feature: The Edge of Democracy
19. International film: " Parasite," South Korea
20.Film Editing: Parasite
21. Production Design: 1917
22. Makeup & Hairstyling: Judy
23.Sound Editing: 1917,Oliver Tarney & Rachel Tate
& 24. Sound Mixing: 1917, Mark Taylor & Stuart Wilson.

I Hope that I am a winner!

John Huerta
308 W. Elm St.
Warren, Arkansas 71671
870-466-5016

mae
01-27-2020, 09:31 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/stephen-king-oped-the-oscars-are-rigged-for-white-people/2020/01/27/

Stephen King: The Oscars are still rigged in favor of white people

Discussions of arts and culture, like discussions of politics, have become increasingly acrimonious and polarized in recent years. Lines of belief are drawn with indelible ink, and if you step over them — wittingly or otherwise — you find yourself in the social-media version of the stocks and subject to a barrage of electronic turnips and cabbages.

I stepped over one of those lines recently, by saying something on Twitter that I mistakenly thought was noncontroversial: “I would never consider diversity in matters of art. Only quality. It seems to me that to do otherwise would be wrong.” The subject was the Academy Awards. I also said, in essence, that those judging creative excellence should be blind to questions of race, gender or sexual orientation.

I did not say that was the case today, because nothing could be further from the truth. Nor did I say that films, novels, plays and music focusing on diversity and/or inequality cannot be works of creative genius. They can be, and often are. Ava DuVernay’s 2019 Netflix miniseries, “When They See Us,” about the wrongful convictions of the Central Park Five, is a splendid case in point.

Has there been progress in the film community? Yes, some. I’m old enough to remember when there were only a handful of African American directors and about the only female director in Hollywood was Ida Lupino, who made hard-edged noir B pictures in the 1950s and later worked in television. Her directing work was never nominated for an Oscar or an Emmy.

For answers to why some talented artists are nominated and some — such as Greta Gerwig, who helmed the astoundingly good new version of “Little Women” — are not, you might need to look no further than the demographic makeup of those who vote for the Academy Awards. It’s better than it was, certainly. Only eight years ago, 94 percent of the 5,700 voters were white, according to the Los Angeles Times, 77 percent were male and 54 percent were more than 60 years old. This year, women make up 32 percent of voters (up only 1 percent from last year) and minority members equal 16 percent of the total.

Not good enough. Not even within shouting distance of good enough.

The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences is trying — in a stumbling fashion far too slow for the Age of Apple and Facebook — to make changes. In the years before #OscarsSoWhite (2015), the academy added about 115 members per year, arguing that a smaller voting pool kept the professional caliber of the voters high. If that makes you mad, it should.

In 2019, the academy invited 842 new members, after inviting 928 the year before, which would bring the total to about 9,000. Give them credit for trying to catch up . . . but not too much credit. Of the nine films nominated for Best Picture this year, the majority — “The Irishman,” “Ford v Ferrari,” “1917,” “Joker” and “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood” — are what my sons call “man-fiction.” There are fights, guns and many white faces.

Here’s another piece of the puzzle. Voters are supposed to look at all films in serious contention. This year, that would be about 60. There’s no way of checking how many voters actually do, because viewing is on the honor system. How many of the older, whiter contingent actually saw “Harriet,” about Harriet Tubman, or “The Last Black Man in San Francisco”? Just asking the question. If they did see all the films, were they moved by what they saw? Did they feel the catharsis that’s the basis of all that artists aspire to? Did they understand?

Where am I in this diversity discussion? Fair question. The answer is white, male, old and rich. (I didn’t grow up rich, and the memories of working for minimum wage linger, but I sure am now.) It would be absurd to dispute that and equally absurd to apologize for it. The first two traits are genetic, and the last two are the work of Time the Avenger.

Yet I’m proud to have written about strong female characters facing complex issues, in novels that have often been adapted for movies or television, with the characters brought powerfully to life by gifted actresses. The span runs from “Carrie,” a novel of female empowerment, more than 40 years ago, to “Lisey’s Story,” now in production as a limited series, about the power of sisterhood, a thing I learned about from my mother and her sisters, plus my wife’s mother and hers.

When people complained on social media a few years ago about Idris Elba being cast as Roland Deschain, the gunslinger at the center of “The Dark Tower” books, I replied that I didn’t care what the character’s skin color was, as long as he could draw fast and shoot straight.

The response reflects my overall attitude that, as with justice, judgments of creative excellence should be blind. But that would be the case in a perfect world, one where the game isn’t rigged in favor of the white folks. Creative excellence comes from every walk, color, creed, gender and sexual orientation, and it’s made richer and bolder and more exciting by diversity, but it’s defined by being excellent. Judging anyone’s work by any other standard is insulting and — worse — it undermines those hard-won moments when excellence from a diverse source is rewarded (against, it seems, all the odds) by leaving such recognition vulnerable to being dismissed as politically correct.

We don’t live in that perfect world, and this year’s less-than-diverse Academy Awards nominations once more prove it. Maybe someday we will. I can dream, can’t I? After all, I make stuff up for a living.

Mattrick
01-27-2020, 07:06 PM
I'm so sick of hearing about this stuff with The Oscars. The same "old white guys" who didn't nominate enough minorities or women this year voted for the highest number of non-white winners at the Academy Awards just last year. The same old white men have only voted for one white man to win best director in the past 8 years and 4 of the past 6 Best Picture winners were directed by minorities. Half of the Screenplay Oscars in the past 3 years have gone to minorities. 3/4 acting Oscars last year went to minorities. We're talking about the biggest awards here. How quickly we forget.



As for the demographics in the Academy, that takes time to fix. You have to grandfather that stuff in, you can't just expect it to happen overnight as people seemingly expect it to. Everybody wants everything immediately these days. Gotta wait for the old guard to die off.

Still Servant
01-28-2020, 05:51 PM
I'm so sick of hearing about this stuff with The Oscars. The same "old white guys" who didn't nominate enough minorities or women this year voted for the highest number of non-white winners at the Academy Awards just last year. The same old white men have only voted for one white man to win best director in the past 8 years and 4 of the past 6 Best Picture winners were directed by minorities. Half of the Screenplay Oscars in the past 3 years have gone to minorities. 3/4 acting Oscars last year went to minorities. We're talking about the biggest awards here. How quickly we forget.



As for the demographics in the Academy, that takes time to fix. You have to grandfather that stuff in, you can't just expect it to happen overnight as people seemingly expect it to. Everybody wants everything immediately these days. Gotta wait for the old guard to die off.

It's just become a popular thing to highlight and social media fuels things like this. I have mentioned it before that it was an anomaly that those acting categories consisted of all white people those 2 years.

In the years prior to that, the Academy had nominated African Americans at a pretty decent rate. Viola Davis, Lupita Nyong'o, Octavia Spencer, Chiwetel Ejiofor, Gabourey Sidibe, Quvenzhané Wallis, Mo'Nique, Barkhad Abdi just to name a few. The Academy didn't just turn racist overnight. Those two years it just so happened that there were other strong performances and an African American wasn't nominated. Yes, it didn't look good, but it was an anomaly. During that same time, the Academy neglected to nominate Jake Gyllenhaal for his amazing performance in Nightcrawler. Unless there's something we don't know, Gyllenhaal is very white.

Hunchback Jack
01-29-2020, 01:27 PM
Both sides of the argument are right.

On the one hand, you shouldn't judge the merit of a movie on the ethnicity of its director, its cinematographer, or on the diversity of its cast - only on the contribution that the completed film makes to the history of cinema. That being the case, there are going to be years where nominees are ethnically diverse, and years where they are not, because ethnicity is not, in and of itself, a consideration. So to infer the existence of racial bias based purely on the ethnic makeup of the nominees in any given year is folly. It's not even clear what the ethnic makeup of the "perfectly diverse" year would be, even if that were a valid metric.

On the other hand, the fact that the demographics of the Academy are slanted towards old white males might indicate that they don't necessarily appreciate the intent and effectiveness of films aimed at other demographics, just because they don't have shared experiences with them. If a film perfectly captured the plight of Latvian immigrants in Washington state, would it be recognized as doing such? That's an extreme case, but the point is that if the Academy doesn't have a diversity of perspectives considering these things, they might not appreciate a diversity of filmmakers and their work.

HBJ

WeDealInLead
01-29-2020, 01:37 PM
Stop being reasonable!

mae
01-29-2020, 02:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X9MYrw-KfE

mae
02-04-2020, 02:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUeHu7KD0c8

Still Servant
02-04-2020, 05:02 PM
The Oscars are this Sunday! You have until showtime to submit your picks. Read the first post for the rules. You can post your picks here or use the online form.

https://tinyurl.com/OscarContest2020

Best Picture

1917
Ford v Ferrari
The Irishman
Jojo Rabbit
Joker
Little Women
Marriage Story
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Parasite

Actor in a Leading Role

Antonio Banderas - Pain and Glory
Leonardo DiCaprio - Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Adam Driver - Marriage Story
Joaquin Phoenix - Joker
Jonathan Pryce - The Two Popes

Actress in a Leading Role

Cynthia Erivo - Harriet
Scarlett Johansson - Marriage Story
Saoirse Ronan - Little Women
Charlize Theron - Bombshell
Renée Zellweger - Judy

Actress in a Supporting Role

Kathy Bates - Richard Jewell
Laura Dern - Marriage Story
Scarlett Johansson - Jojo Rabbit
Florence Pugh - Little Women
Margot Robbie - Bombshell

Actor in a Supporting Role

Tom Hanks - A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood
Anthony Hopkins - The Two Popes
Al Pacino - The Irishman
Joe Pesci - The Irishman
Brad Pitt - Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Directing

Bong Joon Ho - Parasite
Sam Mendes - 1917
Todd Phillips - Joker
Martin Scorsese - The Irishman
Quentin Tarantino - Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Adapted Screenplay

The Irishman
Jojo Rabbit
Joker
Little Women
The Two Popes

Original Screenplay

1917
Knives Out
Marriage Story
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Parasite

International Feature Film

Corpus Christi
Honeyland
Les Miserables
Pain and Glory
Parasite

Production Design

1917
The Irishman
Jojo Rabbit
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Parasite

Film Editing

Ford v Ferrari
The Irishman
Jojo Rabbit
Joker
Parasite

Cinematography

1917
The Irishman
Joker
The Lighthouse
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Visual Effects

1917
Avengers: Endgame
The Irishman
The Lion King
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

Costume Design

Jojo Rabbit
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
The Irishman
Joker
Little Women

Sound Mixing

1917
Ad Astra
Ford v Ferrari
Joker
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Sound Editing

1917
Ford v Ferrari
Joker
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

Original Score

1917
Joker
Little Women
Marriage Story
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

Documentary Feature

American Factory
The Cave
The Edge of Democracy
For Sama
Honeyland

Documentary Short Subject

In the Absence
Learning to Skateboard in a Warzone (If You’re a Girl)
Life Overtakes Me
St. Louis Superman
Walk Run Cha-Cha

Makeup and Hairstyling

1917
Bombshell
Joker
Judy
Maleficent: Mistress of Evil

Animated Feature Film

How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World
I Lost My Body
Klaus
Missing Link
Toy Story 4

Animated Short Film

Dcera (Daughter)
Hair Love
Kitbull
Memorable
Sister

Live-Action Short Film

Brotherhood
Nefta Football Club
The Neighbors’ Window
Saria
A Sister

Original Song

"I Can't Let You Throw Yourself Away" - Toy Story 4
"(I'm Gonna) Love Me Again" - Rocketman
"I'm Standing With You" - Breakthrough
"Into the Unknown" - Frozen 2
"Stand Up" - Harriet

mae
02-04-2020, 05:14 PM
I'm not feeling super confident about my picks, but I'm always picking (naively, I know) what I wish would win... Picks bolded:


The Oscars are this Sunday! You have until showtime to submit your picks. Read the first post for the rules. You can post your picks here or use the online form.

https://tinyurl.com/OscarContest2020

Best Picture

1917
Ford v Ferrari
The Irishman
Jojo Rabbit
Joker
Little Women
Marriage Story
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Parasite

Actor in a Leading Role

Antonio Banderas - Pain and Glory
Leonardo DiCaprio - Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Adam Driver - Marriage Story
Joaquin Phoenix - Joker
Jonathan Pryce - The Two Popes

Actress in a Leading Role

Cynthia Erivo - Harriet
Scarlett Johansson - Marriage Story
Saoirse Ronan - Little Women
Charlize Theron - Bombshell
Renée Zellweger - Judy

Actress in a Supporting Role

Kathy Bates - Richard Jewell
Laura Dern - Marriage Story
Scarlett Johansson - Jojo Rabbit
Florence Pugh - Little Women
Margot Robbie - Bombshell

Actor in a Supporting Role

Tom Hanks - A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood
Anthony Hopkins - The Two Popes
Al Pacino - The Irishman
Joe Pesci - The Irishman
Brad Pitt - Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Directing

Bong Joon Ho - Parasite
Sam Mendes - 1917
Todd Phillips - Joker
Martin Scorsese - The Irishman
Quentin Tarantino - Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Adapted Screenplay

The Irishman
Jojo Rabbit
Joker
Little Women
The Two Popes

Original Screenplay

1917
Knives Out
Marriage Story
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Parasite

International Feature Film

Corpus Christi
Honeyland
Les Miserables
Pain and Glory
Parasite

Production Design

1917
The Irishman
Jojo Rabbit
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Parasite

Film Editing

Ford v Ferrari
The Irishman
Jojo Rabbit
Joker
Parasite

Cinematography

1917
The Irishman
Joker
The Lighthouse
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Visual Effects

1917
Avengers: Endgame
The Irishman
The Lion King
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

Costume Design

Jojo Rabbit
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
The Irishman
Joker
Little Women

Sound Mixing

1917
Ad Astra
Ford v Ferrari
Joker
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Sound Editing

1917
Ford v Ferrari
Joker
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

Original Score

1917
Joker
Little Women
Marriage Story
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

Documentary Feature

American Factory
The Cave
The Edge of Democracy
For Sama
Honeyland

Documentary Short Subject

In the Absence
Learning to Skateboard in a Warzone (If You’re a Girl)
Life Overtakes Me
St. Louis Superman
Walk Run Cha-Cha

Makeup and Hairstyling

1917
Bombshell
Joker
Judy
Maleficent: Mistress of Evil

Animated Feature Film

How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World
I Lost My Body
Klaus
Missing Link
Toy Story 4

Animated Short Film

Dcera (Daughter)
Hair Love
Kitbull
Memorable
Sister

Live-Action Short Film

Brotherhood
Nefta Football Club
The Neighbors’ Window
Saria
A Sister

Original Song

"I Can't Let You Throw Yourself Away" - Toy Story 4
"(I'm Gonna) Love Me Again" - Rocketman
"I'm Standing With You" - Breakthrough
"Into the Unknown" - Frozen 2
"Stand Up" - Harriet

Tiebreaker: 1917 with 5

Lurker
02-04-2020, 08:38 PM
I used the on line form after I watched the Bafta (I just have to say - I can live without Rebel Wilson at award shows). If I need to post it here, I can. Had 1917 with six.

Heather19
02-05-2020, 03:15 PM
Thanks for the reminder. I almost forgot to put together my picks before I leave. I filled out the form but here they are as well.

Best Picture
1917

Actor in a Leading Role
Joaquin Phoenix - Joker

Actress in a Leading Role
Renée Zellweger - Judy

Actress in a Supporting Role
Laura Dern - Marriage Story

Actor in a Supporting Role
Brad Pitt - Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Directing
Sam Mendes - 1917

Adapted Screenplay
Jojo Rabbit

Original Screenplay
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

International Feature Film
Parasite

Production Design
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Film Editing
Parasite

Cinematography
1917

Visual Effects
Avengers: Endgame

Costume Design
Little Women

Sound Mixing
1917

Sound Editing
1917

Original Score
Joker

Documentary Feature
American Factory

Documentary Short Subject
Learning to Skateboard in a Warzone (If You’re a Girl)

Makeup and Hairstyling
Bombshell

Animated Feature Film
Toy Story 4

Animated Short Film
Hair Love

Live-Action Short Film
The Neighbors’ Window

Original Song
"(I'm Gonna) Love Me Again" - Rocketman

Tiebreaker - 1917 with 5

mae
02-05-2020, 03:25 PM
I'm still internally debating between 1917 and Parasite for BP... I don't know what to do :panic: I feel like there's this huge swell of support for Parasite and it's one of the best reviewed movies of all time (#26 on IMDB Top 250 and #1 on Letterboxd Top 250), yet the Academy is unlikely to give BP to a South Korean film. I'm sticking with Parasite for now...

Heather19
02-05-2020, 03:46 PM
I agree, was torn between the two and could see it going either way.

Mattrick
02-05-2020, 07:43 PM
Yeah it's a two horse race at this point. I originally didn't even consider Parasite for Best Picture, but people wouldn't shut up about it's momentum. Things go wrong for me when I question my original gut feeling.

fernandito
02-06-2020, 09:32 AM
I have 1917 slightly edging out Parasite with OUATIH as a dark horse.

fernandito
02-06-2020, 09:54 AM
HERE YOU GO MIKE

My picks for 2020

Best Picture
1917

Actor in a Leading Role
Joaquin Phoenix - Joker

Actress in a Leading Role
Renée Zellweger - Judy

Actress in a Supporting Role
Laura Dern - Marriage Story

Actor in a Supporting Role
Brad Pitt - Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Directing
Sam Mendes - 1917

Adapted Screenplay
Jojo Rabbit

Original Screenplay
Parasite

International Feature Film
Parasite

Production Design
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Film Editing
Ford v Ferrari

Cinematography
1917

Visual Effects
1917

Costume Design
Little Women

Sound Mixing
1917

Sound Editing
Ford v Ferrari

Original Score
Joker

Documentary Feature
American Factory

Documentary Short Subject
Learning to Skateboard in a Warzone (If You’re a Girl)

Makeup and Hairstyling
Bombshell

Animated Feature Film
Toy Story 4

Animated Short Film
Hair Love

Live-Action Short Film
Brotherhood

Original Song
"(I'm Gonna) Love Me Again" - Rocketman

Tiebreaker - 1917 with 5

Hunchback Jack
02-06-2020, 10:55 AM
I have 1917 slightly edging out Parasite with OUATIH as a dark horse.

That's my feeling on it exactly.

DanHocker
02-06-2020, 01:34 PM
I haven't seen enough of these to really make a informed guess. That said my money is still on 1917 for BP. It's kinda just the most "Oscar" movie on the list. I'd love to be wrong though and have the Oscars defy expectations and pick Parasite.

Ricky
02-06-2020, 02:37 PM
Woah, woah, woah...Fernando actually submitted his picks this year? :o

fernandito
02-06-2020, 03:18 PM
Yes. Go buy a lottery ticket on your way home :lol:

mae
02-06-2020, 06:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1ACsKff_sY

Mattrick
02-07-2020, 12:58 PM
Because it's the oscars...I'm going to take the chance I might actually enjoy this Honest Trailer and watch it even though they've been utter shit for the past two years.

Mattrick
02-07-2020, 01:08 PM
Ooof. That was a mistake.



Gotta watch an old, good Honest Trailers for The Oscars to wash the taste of that out of my mouth.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rkirbTtb4I

Still Servant
02-07-2020, 06:35 PM
HERE YOU GO MIKE

My picks for 2020

Best Picture
1917

Actor in a Leading Role
Joaquin Phoenix - Joker

Actress in a Leading Role
Renée Zellweger - Judy

Actress in a Supporting Role
Laura Dern - Marriage Story

Actor in a Supporting Role
Brad Pitt - Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Directing
Sam Mendes - 1917

Adapted Screenplay
Jojo Rabbit

Original Screenplay
Parasite

International Feature Film
Parasite

Production Design
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Film Editing
Ford v Ferrari

Cinematography
1917

Visual Effects
1917

Costume Design
Little Women

Sound Mixing
1917

Sound Editing
Ford v Ferrari

Original Score
Joker

Documentary Feature
American Factory

Documentary Short Subject
Learning to Skateboard in a Warzone (If You’re a Girl)

Makeup and Hairstyling
Bombshell

Animated Feature Film
Toy Story 4

Animated Short Film
Hair Love

Live-Action Short Film
Brotherhood

Original Song
"(I'm Gonna) Love Me Again" - Rocketman

Tiebreaker - 1917 with 5

I'm not gonna' lie, I got choked up when I saw this post.

Stockerlone
02-07-2020, 11:38 PM
I get worse every year.....


Best Picture

1917
Ford v Ferrari
The Irishman
Jojo Rabbit
Joker
Little Women
Marriage Story
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Parasite

Actor in a Leading Role

Antonio Banderas - Pain and Glory
Leonardo DiCaprio - Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Adam Driver - Marriage Story
Joaquin Phoenix - Joker
Jonathan Pryce - The Two Popes

Actress in a Leading Role

Cynthia Erivo - Harriet
Scarlett Johansson - Marriage Story
Saoirse Ronan - Little Women
Charlize Theron - Bombshell
Renée Zellweger - Judy

Actress in a Supporting Role

Kathy Bates - Richard Jewell
Laura Dern - Marriage Story
Scarlett Johansson - Jojo Rabbit
Florence Pugh - Little Women
Margot Robbie - Bombshell

Actor in a Supporting Role

Tom Hanks - A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood
Anthony Hopkins - The Two Popes
Al Pacino - The Irishman
Joe Pesci - The Irishman
Brad Pitt - Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Directing

Bong Joon Ho - Parasite
Sam Mendes - 1917
Todd Phillips - Joker
Martin Scorsese - The Irishman
Quentin Tarantino - Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Adapted Screenplay

The Irishman
Jojo Rabbit
Joker
Little Women
The Two Popes

Original Screenplay

1917
Knives Out
Marriage Story
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Parasite

International Feature Film

Corpus Christi
Honeyland
Les Miserables
Pain and Glory
Parasite

Production Design

1917
The Irishman
Jojo Rabbit
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Parasite

Film Editing

Ford v Ferrari
The Irishman
Jojo Rabbit
Joker
Parasite

Cinematography

1917
The Irishman
Joker
The Lighthouse
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Visual Effects

1917
Avengers: Endgame
The Irishman
The Lion King
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

Costume Design

Jojo Rabbit
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
The Irishman
Joker
Little Women

Sound Mixing

1917
Ad Astra
Ford v Ferrari
Joker
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Sound Editing

1917
Ford v Ferrari
Joker
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

Original Score

1917
Joker
Little Women
Marriage Story
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

Documentary Feature

American Factory
The Cave
The Edge of Democracy
For Sama
Honeyland

Documentary Short Subject

In the Absence
Learning to Skateboard in a Warzone (If You’re a Girl)
Life Overtakes Me
St. Louis Superman
Walk Run Cha-Cha

Makeup and Hairstyling

1917
Bombshell
Joker
Judy
Maleficent: Mistress of Evil

Animated Feature Film

How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World
I Lost My Body
Klaus
Missing Link
Toy Story 4

Animated Short Film

Dcera (Daughter)
Hair Love
Kitbull
Memorable
Sister

Live-Action Short Film

Brotherhood
Nefta Football Club
The Neighbors’ Window
Saria
A Sister

Original Song

"I Can't Let You Throw Yourself Away" - Toy Story 4
"(I'm Gonna) Love Me Again" - Rocketman
"I'm Standing With You" - Breakthrough
"Into the Unknown" - Frozen 2
"Stand Up" - Harriet


Tiebreaker: Most Oscars - 1917 (6)

Mattrick
02-09-2020, 12:51 AM
Best Picture

1917

Actor in a Leading Role

Joaquin Phoenix - Joker

Actress in a Leading Role

Renée Zellweger - Judy

Actress in a Supporting Role

Laura Dern - Marriage Story


Actor in a Supporting Role

Brad Pitt - Once Upon a Time in Hollywood


Directing

Sam Mendes - 1917


Adapted Screenplay

Little Women


Original Screenplay

Marriage Story


International Feature Film

Parasite

Production Design

1917


Film Editing

Parasite


Cinematography

1917


Visual Effects

The Lion King


Costume Design

Little Women

Sound Mixing

1917


Sound Editing

Ford v Ferrari


Original Score

Joker


Documentary Feature

Honeyland


Documentary Short Subject

Learning to Skateboard in a Warzone (If You’re a Girl)


Makeup and Hairstyling

Bombshell


Animated Feature Film

Toy Story 4


Animated Short Film

Hair Love


Live-Action Short Film

Saria


Original Song


"(I'm Gonna) Love Me Again" - Rocketman


Tiebreaker: Most Oscars - 1917 (5)

Still Servant
02-09-2020, 07:41 AM
Best Picture

1917
Ford v Ferrari
The Irishman
Jojo Rabbit
Joker
Little Women
Marriage Story
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Parasite

Actor in a Leading Role

Antonio Banderas - Pain and Glory
Leonardo DiCaprio - Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Adam Driver - Marriage Story
Joaquin Phoenix - Joker
Jonathan Pryce - The Two Popes

Actress in a Leading Role

Cynthia Erivo - Harriet
Scarlett Johansson - Marriage Story
Saoirse Ronan - Little Women
Charlize Theron - Bombshell
Renée Zellweger - Judy

Actress in a Supporting Role

Kathy Bates - Richard Jewell
Laura Dern - Marriage Story
Scarlett Johansson - Jojo Rabbit
Florence Pugh - Little Women
Margot Robbie - Bombshell

Actor in a Supporting Role

Tom Hanks - A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood
Anthony Hopkins - The Two Popes
Al Pacino - The Irishman
Joe Pesci - The Irishman
Brad Pitt - Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Directing

Bong Joon Ho - Parasite
Sam Mendes - 1917
Todd Phillips - Joker
Martin Scorsese - The Irishman
Quentin Tarantino - Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Adapted Screenplay

The Irishman
Jojo Rabbit
Joker
Little Women
The Two Popes

Original Screenplay

1917
Knives Out
Marriage Story
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Parasite

International Feature Film

Corpus Christi
Honeyland
Les Miserables
Pain and Glory
Parasite

Production Design

1917
The Irishman
Jojo Rabbit
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Parasite

Film Editing

Ford v Ferrari
The Irishman
Jojo Rabbit
Joker
Parasite

Cinematography

1917
The Irishman
Joker
The Lighthouse
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Visual Effects

1917
Avengers: Endgame
The Irishman
The Lion King
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

Costume Design

Jojo Rabbit
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
The Irishman
Joker
Little Women

Sound Mixing

1917
Ad Astra
Ford v Ferrari
Joker
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Sound Editing

1917
Ford v Ferrari
Joker
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

Original Score

1917
Joker
Little Women
Marriage Story
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

Documentary Feature

American Factory
The Cave
The Edge of Democracy
For Sama
Honeyland

Documentary Short Subject

In the Absence
Learning to Skateboard in a Warzone (If You’re a Girl)
Life Overtakes Me
St. Louis Superman
Walk Run Cha-Cha

Makeup and Hairstyling

1917
Bombshell
Joker
Judy
Maleficent: Mistress of Evil

Animated Feature Film

How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World
I Lost My Body
Klaus
Missing Link
Toy Story 4

Animated Short Film

Dcera (Daughter)
Hair Love
Kitbull
Memorable
Sister

Live-Action Short Film

Brotherhood
Nefta Football Club
The Neighbors’ Window
Saria
A Sister

Original Song

"I Can't Let You Throw Yourself Away" - Toy Story 4
"(I'm Gonna) Love Me Again" - Rocketman
"I'm Standing With You" - Breakthrough
"Into the Unknown" - Frozen 2
"Stand Up" - Harriet

Ricky
02-09-2020, 12:54 PM
Here's my picks. I wracked my brain for hours with my picks last year and ended up not doing great, so I'm going with my instincts this year.

Best Picture

1917

Actor in a Leading Role

Joaquin Phoenix - Joker

Actress in a Leading Role

Renée Zellweger - Judy

Actress in a Supporting Role

Laura Dern - Marriage Story

Actor in a Supporting Role

Brad Pitt - Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Directing

Bong Joon Ho - Parasite

Adapted Screenplay

Jojo Rabbit

Original Screenplay

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

International Feature Film

Parasite

Production Design

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Film Editing

Ford v Ferrari

Cinematography

1917

Visual Effects

1917

Costume Design

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Sound Mixing

1917

Sound Editing

1917

Original Score

Joker

Documentary Feature

American Factory

Documentary Short Subject

Learning to Skateboard in a Warzone (If You’re a Girl)

Makeup and Hairstyling

Bombshell

Animated Feature Film

Toy Story 4

Animated Short Film

Hair Love

Live-Action Short Film

A Sister

Original Song

"(I'm Gonna) Love Me Again" - Rocketman

*Tie-breaker: 1917 with 5 wins

Still Servant
02-09-2020, 03:20 PM
The players so far:

Matt
Servant
Heather
Mae
Ricky
Feev
Stocker
Johnny
Web
Web's Wife
Lurker
George Monkey
RF

There are also two names I'm unfamiliar with that filled out the form. If you don't see your name above, please send me a PM with your DT handle so you can be included. I posted this to my FB too, but it's two names I don't know so I'm assuming it's from this board.

mae
02-09-2020, 05:47 PM
That international rendition of the song from Frozen II was awesome and gave me chills, loved it!

mae
02-09-2020, 08:27 PM
YUSSS!! :excited: :panic:

Still Servant
02-09-2020, 10:10 PM
Wow! What a contest. These are some of the best scores I've ever seen. Let me paint a narrative. I score the digital submissions first. It looked like our defending champ was about to be taken down by three unknowns who all scored 20 points. Then I scored the board submissions where a hero reappeared to take down the newcomers. Feev drops 21, but wait, there's more. How could I forget about Mae, our Tournament guru. Mae also drops 21. We go to the tiebreaker where both pick 1917 to win 5 Oscars. We initiate the second tiebreaker and the new winner is...

MAE! Feev posted his picks on February 6 and Mae submitted on February 4th. Congrats to Mae and thank you to everyone who played.

*Please double check your scores. It's late.

2020 Results:

Mae - 21 (Winner by second tiebreaker)
Feev -21
George Monkey -20
Mike Teague - 20
Phllip Gallegos - 20
Servant - 19
Ricky - 19
Heather -18
Lurker -18
Matt - 15
Web -11
Johnny - 11
RF - 11
Stocker - 9
Web's wife - 2

webstar1000
02-10-2020, 03:18 AM
That was fun! Thanks for doing it. I didn’t do very well but had a lot of fun. Very disappointed that Parasite won. Oh well...


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DanHocker
02-10-2020, 06:21 AM
I'm pleasantly surprised the Oscars didn't do the Oscars thing and gave it to Parasite. Well deserved in my opinion.

Heather19
02-10-2020, 08:14 AM
Wow, those are some great scores! I was shocked that Parasite won so many. Thought for sure the Academy would stick with the types of films they've given it to in the past. Glad to see them step out a bit more this year. Now I'm extra excited to see Parasite.

fernandito
02-10-2020, 09:50 AM
Congrats Mae!!

Also, what's second tiebreaker?

Randall Flagg
02-10-2020, 11:10 AM
Congrats Mae!!

Also, what's second tiebreaker?
Earliest posting of the person's predictions.

Hunchback Jack
02-10-2020, 11:38 AM
Congratulations, Mae!

Lurker
02-10-2020, 12:03 PM
Congrats to the 21 picks! Thanks to Still.

Still Servant
02-10-2020, 01:56 PM
Congrats Mae!!

Also, what's second tiebreaker?

You're welcome, everyone!

We had to create the second tiebreaker because we were getting too many ties after the first tiebreaker.

I don't know about anybody else, but I want these lurkers to participate more.

Still Servant
02-10-2020, 01:58 PM
Past results:

2010 results
Heather - 15
Servant - 14
Turtlex - 14
Cody - 8
Seymour - 8
Odetta - 4

2011 results
Heather - 17
Servant - 15
Path - 14
Mattrick - 14
Ricky - 12
Merlin - 11
Feev - 8

2012 results
Servant - 14
Heather - 14
Ricky - 14
Stockerlone - 12
Shannon - 11
Thorin- 10
Mattrick - 9
Feev - 8
Garrell - 8
Odetta - 5
Mystima - 4

2013 results
Heather - 20
Servant - 17
Ricky - 15
Matt - 14
Stockerlone - 13
Feev - 12
Mae - 10

2014 results
Heather - 22
Ricky - 20
Servant - 19
Randall - 16
Mae - 13
Matt - 10
Mystima - 10
Merlin - 7
Stockerlone - 6

2015 results
T-Dogz - 20
George Monkey - 19
Lurker - 19
Ricky - 18
Servant - 17
Feev - 17
Heather - 15
Shannon - 15
Mae - 13
Stocker - 9
Matt - 6

2016 results
Heather - 17 (winner by tiebreaker - Mad Max 6)
Servant - 17
Mae - 16
T-Dogz - 16
Ricky - 15
Matt - 15
Lurker - 14
Stocker - 8

2017 results
TDogz - 16 (winner by tiebreaker)
Doc Z - 16
Tommy - 16
Ricky - 15
Lurker - 15
Servant - 15
Heather - 14
Mae -14
Matt - 13
RF - 13
Stocker - 8
Merlin - 7

2018 results
Randall Flagg - 21 (Tiebreaker - The Shape of Water 4) Co-winner
Lurker - 21 (Tiebreaker - The Shape of Water 4) Co-winner
T-Dogz - 20
Servant - 20
Matt - 19
Mae - 19
Heather - 17
John Huerta - 16
Ricky -13
Doctor Zaius - 10

2019 results
Servant - 18
Lurker - 15
Matt - 15
T-Dogz - 15
Mae - 14
Heather - 13
Ricky - 12
Garrell -12
Randall - 9
Stocker - 6

2020 results

Mae - 21 (Winner by second tiebreaker)
Feev -21
George Monkey -20
Mike Teague - 20
Phllip Gallegos - 20
Servant - 19
Ricky - 19
Heather -18
Lurker -18
Matt - 15
Web -11
Johnny - 11
RF - 11
Stocker - 9
Web's wife - 2

mae
02-10-2020, 02:14 PM
Oh my gosh, thank you! I never win anything! Ahem, I would like to thank the Academy, it was just an honor to participate, I didn’t think I would actually win. And when Toy Story 4 won I felt like this would not be my night. And then Sam Mendes didn’t win. Once Bong won Director I knew Parasite had Picture 100%, but I didn't think it would actually happen when the night started. Every once in a while the Oscar actually goes to the best picture!

mae
02-10-2020, 02:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_cklIeHHaI

Ricky
02-10-2020, 03:10 PM
Congrats, Mae (and Feev, too)! Amazing scores. :clap:

Of course the year that I have my second best score EVER is the year I'm tied for third. :lol: I'm super happy with my score, though.

As for the show itself, I didn't mind not having a host again. I liked the bits they did (the high-energy opening, Chris Rock and Steve Martin's routine, actually performing a medley of the score noms). It did feel like the show dragged, though. Did anyone else feel like there were more commercial breaks than usual?

Not too many surprises in terms of winners, but I'm glad that Jojo won for Adapted Screenplay. Well deserved. And the genuine joy from Bong & Co. each time they won for Parasite was infectious. My favorite moment of the night came at the very end when they dimmed the stage lights to play off Parasite and the entire audience started chanting, "Up! Up! Up!" and motioning for the lights to come back on to let them finish. Such a joyous moment that really captured the spirit of the movies.

Also, every time I put milk in my coffee from now on, I won't be able to do so without thinking of Joaquin Phoenix.

Mike, I saw Parasite on Saturday so now I finally understand your avatar. :lol:

Mattrick
02-10-2020, 04:46 PM
I demand a recount.

Still Servant
02-10-2020, 05:55 PM
I demand a recount.

In your case, there's no way I could have counted that bad! :lol:

I enjoyed the show and I was so happy with the Parasite love. I've been a huge fan of Bong for years, so it was great seeing him get his moment. After I saw Parasite, I knew it was my favorite of the year, but I never thought it would win BP. So awesome.

I didn't love the beginning, but it was different at least. I would still prefer a host though. I say it every year, but they have to do a better job of honoring the entire year of film. There were so many great films that came out in 2019 it would have been nice to see a montage or something. The films that are nominated should not be the only ones celebrated.

I really liked how they did the clips for the acting categories. Mixing them all together and kind of weaving a narrative was really cool. I'm glad Jojo got a little love and I will never tire of Deakins winning Oscars. Sure, I would have liked to have seen more upsets, but that happens sometimes, moreso lately it seems. The only real upset was Ford v Ferrari winning Best Film Editing.

Now begins my post Oscar depression.

Mattrick
02-10-2020, 07:54 PM
I'll never be able to pick Visual Effects right. When I saw 1917 I paid close attention to it and it's used so sparingly yet well and I thought it was too subtle to win. It's amazing how that can get the most votes when up again a film like Avengers or The Lion King or Star Wars which has CGI running throughout the entire films. Even The Irishman puts its visual effects with the deaging right up front to show it off.

Heather19
02-11-2020, 04:54 AM
I enjoyed the show this year. I liked Janelle's opening music number. I do agree with Mike though, that they should focus more on all the movies of the year versus just the nominated ones. It'd be cool if they did a few montages throughout the night highlighting other films released that year.

One thing I thought was odd was that they had people introduce the people that would then introduce something. And can someone please explain the Eminem segment to me. I know he had 8 Mile come out ages ago, but I was confused as to why he came out to sing a song now?

Oh and I watched Parasite last night and loved it :D

DanHocker
02-11-2020, 06:01 AM
I'll never be able to pick Visual Effects right. When I saw 1917 I paid close attention to it and it's used so sparingly yet well and I thought it was too subtle to win. It's amazing how that can get the most votes when up again a film like Avengers or The Lion King or Star Wars which has CGI running throughout the entire films. Even The Irishman puts its visual effects with the deaging right up front to show it off.

The thing with 1917 is the way they used the visual effects. Honestly there's probably almost as much as Avengers, the effects are just done in a way to make you think they aren't there. The ones to look for are all the stuff where they very cleverly hid the cuts and camera transitions, since the movie is shot in a way to make it look like one long continuous take / shot. It's very clever and definitely a thing that would appeal heavily to the Oscar voting crowd / the film industry.

As a side note, how was Lion King nominated for visual effects. Even though they call that "Live Action" it's just an animated movie. It'd be like nominating Toy Story for visual effects.

Ricky
02-11-2020, 03:25 PM
I would still prefer a host though. I say it every year, but they have to do a better job of honoring the entire year of film. There were so many great films that came out in 2019 it would have been nice to see a montage or something.

I was going to say the same thing but I say it every year and didn't want to sound like a broken record. So I'll just piggyback off of you. :lol:


I really liked how they did the clips for the acting categories. Mixing them all together and kind of weaving a narrative was really cool. I'm glad Jojo got a little love and I will never tire of Deakins winning Oscars.

Agree with all of this.


One thing I thought was odd was that they had people introduce the people that would then introduce something.

That was weird. Even George MacKay seemed to think it was weird as he was introducing someone else. :lol:


And can someone please explain the Eminem segment to me. I know he had 8 Mile come out ages ago, but I was confused as to why he came out to sing a song now?

This is one of the great mysteries of life that no one will ever understand. :lol:

I understand that it related to the music noms but...Eminem? Wasn't 8 Mile 15 years ago? And did you see them cut to Scorsese nodding off at his performance? :rofl:

Mattrick
02-11-2020, 05:14 PM
I enjoyed the show this year. I liked Janelle's opening music number.


I joked to my friend that to make up for the lack of black nominees, they had black people sing and dance to entertain the privileged whites in attendance.



The thing with 1917 is the way they used the visual effects. Honestly there's probably almost as much as Avengers, the effects are just done in a way to make you think they aren't there. The ones to look for are all the stuff where they very cleverly hid the cuts and camera transitions, since the movie is shot in a way to make it look like one long continuous take / shot. It's very clever and definitely a thing that would appeal heavily to the Oscar voting crowd / the film industry.


Yeah, that's why I considered it. I guess they prefer things to be more subtle. It reminded me of Ex Machina beating Mad Max Fury Road for visual effects despite Mad Max sweeping the other technical awards that year. And I never know what exactly they mean by visual effects...does that include practical effects or is it just talking about digital effects?

Still Servant
02-11-2020, 06:31 PM
I enjoyed the show this year. I liked Janelle's opening music number. I do agree with Mike though, that they should focus more on all the movies of the year versus just the nominated ones. It'd be cool if they did a few montages throughout the night highlighting other films released that year.

One thing I thought was odd was that they had people introduce the people that would then introduce something. And can someone please explain the Eminem segment to me. I know he had 8 Mile come out ages ago, but I was confused as to why he came out to sing a song now?

Oh and I watched Parasite last night and loved it :D

So happy you loved Parasite!

As for Eminem, that's pure PR. His new album just dropped. Plain and simple. I do think it was cool because he ditched the Oscars all those years ago and has now made up for it. Apparently, he always regretted not performing that night.

Heather19
02-11-2020, 06:38 PM
Ah ok, that makes sense. Well I guess as much sense as it's going to :lol: I knew there must have been a connection to something. Had no idea he had a new album out. Still an odd choice if you ask me though.

Still Servant
02-11-2020, 06:44 PM
Ah ok, that makes sense. Well I guess as much sense as it's going to :lol: I knew there must have been a connection to something. Had no idea he had a new album out. Still an odd choice if you ask me though.

No doubt. It certainly came out of nowhere.

Hunchback Jack
02-11-2020, 08:20 PM
One thing I thought was odd was that they had people introduce the people that would then introduce something.

That was weird. Even George MacKay seemed to think it was weird as he was introducing someone else. :lol:

It makes sense when there's a host introducing presenters. But when there's no host, and they try to keep the same format, they have to introduce people to introduce the presenters. It's like the people writing the intros and the people deciding there would be no host didn't talk to each other.

HBJ

Mattrick
02-11-2020, 09:11 PM
I wanted to see Scorsese react to Eminem, and I lost it when they showed him fighting off a powerful nap.

Lurker
02-11-2020, 09:16 PM
I was ok with the show, but could live without the opening act and all that stuff. I can't remember all that from when I was a kid, but maybe. I should look to see if any of the old shows are up somewhere. Anyway, with the exceptions of a couple of people I just loathe, it was fine if long.

fernandito
02-12-2020, 10:42 AM
One thing I thought was odd was that they had people introduce the people that would then introduce something. And can someone please explain the Eminem segment to me. I know he had 8 Mile come out ages ago, but I was confused as to why he came out to sing a song now?



His new album (as Mike mentioned)
It fed into the progressive/'woke' theme they were going for
Most importantly, they were honoring the enduring impact certain songs had on different films where the two become almost inextricable

amd013
02-12-2020, 01:07 PM
I haven't followed this thread, so apologies if this has already been discussed.

I haven't seen "A beautiful day in the neighborhood". Wasn't Fred Rodgers the main character in the movie? Why was Tom Hanks nominated for supporting actor and not leading actor?

Mattrick
02-12-2020, 01:10 PM
I haven't followed this thread, so apologies if this has already been discussed.

I haven't seen "A beautiful day in the neighborhood". Wasn't Fred Rodgers the main character in the movie? Why was Tom Hanks nominated for supporting actor and not leading actor?

He's a supporting character. It's about a journalist, I believe.

amd013
02-12-2020, 01:15 PM
I haven't followed this thread, so apologies if this has already been discussed.

I haven't seen "A beautiful day in the neighborhood". Wasn't Fred Rodgers the main character in the movie? Why was Tom Hanks nominated for supporting actor and not leading actor?

He's a supporting character. It's about a journalist, I believe.

Oh, ok, just assumed it was about Mr. Rodgers.

Ricky
02-13-2020, 02:54 PM
I wanted to see Scorsese react to Eminem, and I lost it when they showed him fighting off a powerful nap.

That was the best. :lol:




It fed into the progressive/'woke' theme they were going for


This makes the most sense to me.

Academy Executive #1: "Hey, we need to get the young people watching the Oscars this year! Any ideas?"

Academy Executive #2: "Oh! How about this: we hire a rapper that acted in a movie one time that the hip young'uns loved 15 years ago!"

Academy Executive #1: "That will literally save the show! Millions more people will watch and we'll be forevermore known as single-handedly saving the Oscars telecast!"

[cut to next morning as both executives read the headlines that this was the lowest-rated Oscars of all time]


He's a supporting character. It's about a journalist, I believe.

Yeah, Mr. Rogers is in it more than I thought he would be, but it's definitely about the journalist and how Mr. Rogers impacted his way of thinking rather than a straight-up biopic.

DanHocker
02-14-2020, 06:48 AM
I wanted to see Scorsese react to Eminem, and I lost it when they showed him fighting off a powerful nap.

That was the best. :lol:




It fed into the progressive/'woke' theme they were going for


This makes the most sense to me.

Academy Executive #1: "Hey, we need to get the young people watching the Oscars this year! Any ideas?"

Academy Executive #2: "Oh! How about this: we hire a rapper that acted in a movie one time that the hip young'uns loved 15 years ago!"

Academy Executive #1: "That will literally save the show! Millions more people will watch and we'll be forevermore known as single-handedly saving the Oscars telecast!"

[cut to next morning as both executives read the headlines that this was the lowest-rated Oscars of all time]


He's a supporting character. It's about a journalist, I believe.

Yeah, Mr. Rogers is in it more than I thought he would be, but it's definitely about the journalist and how Mr. Rogers impacted his way of thinking rather than a straight-up biopic.

To be fair Eminem is still extraordinarily popular. Quoting from wikipedia here because I couldn't remember the exact details "Eminem has had ten number one albums on the Billboard 200, which all consecutively debuted at number one on the chart making him the only artist to achieve this" that 10th album is his most recent one which released in January.

webstar1000
02-14-2020, 06:51 AM
I wanted to see Scorsese react to Eminem, and I lost it when they showed him fighting off a powerful nap.

That was the best. :lol:




It fed into the progressive/'woke' theme they were going for


This makes the most sense to me.

Academy Executive #1: "Hey, we need to get the young people watching the Oscars this year! Any ideas?"

Academy Executive #2: "Oh! How about this: we hire a rapper that acted in a movie one time that the hip young'uns loved 15 years ago!"

Academy Executive #1: "That will literally save the show! Millions more people will watch and we'll be forevermore known as single-handedly saving the Oscars telecast!"

[cut to next morning as both executives read the headlines that this was the lowest-rated Oscars of all time]


He's a supporting character. It's about a journalist, I believe.

Yeah, Mr. Rogers is in it more than I thought he would be, but it's definitely about the journalist and how Mr. Rogers impacted his way of thinking rather than a straight-up biopic.

To be fair Eminem is still extraordinarily popular. Quoting from wikipedia here because I couldn't remember the exact details "Eminem has had ten number one albums on the Billboard 200, which all consecutively debuted at number one on the chart making him the only artist to achieve this" that 10th album is his most recent one which released in January.

Agree. Eninem is far from done. He is still in his prime and is LOVED all over the world. There is none and never has been anyone like his... he is a master at his craft. I admit... I am a huge fan as well.

mae
02-16-2020, 12:26 PM
Apparently Parasite's BP win was controversial? News to me:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Cay3ajYx9s

Still Servant
02-16-2020, 03:34 PM
That guy comes off as an ignorant buffoon. Judging by all the comic books in the background, he should probably just stick to films of that nature.

Mattrick
02-16-2020, 04:05 PM
RedLetterMedia made fun of that guy in the new Half in the Bag too. I keep meaning to watching the actual video.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c-hAbInjt4

Hunchback Jack
02-16-2020, 04:53 PM
Foreign films have been nominated for Best Picture (or the equivalent) Oscar since 1938. Odd that you'd get upset that one would actually win.

HBJ

Still Servant
02-17-2020, 12:40 PM
Foreign films have been nominated for Best Picture (or the equivalent) Oscar since 1938. Odd that you'd get upset that one would actually win.

HBJ

Yeah, the guy is just a superhero fanboy.