The Great Movie Tournament - 1990s: Round 1 - Group 9 of 32

[mae]

During the first round of The Great Movie Tournament, please vote for up to six films you would like to move onto the next round. The top six films will be moving on. Keep in mind that the percentage of the vote a given film receives will determine its standing going forward.

The poll will run for seven days. Discussion is greatly encouraged!

The nominees are (please let me know if any video doesn't play for you):


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/83/SouthParkbiggerlongeruncut.jpg
South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut (1999) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park:_Bigger,_Longer_%26_Uncut)
Directed by Trey Parker


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vYxxyUDDbk

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/55/Braveheart_imp.jpg/220px-Braveheart_imp.jpg
Braveheart (1995) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braveheart)
Directed by Mel Gibson


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NJO0jxBtMo

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/04/Delicatessen2.jpg/220px-Delicatessen2.jpg
Delicatessen (1991) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delicatessen_%28film%29)
Directed by Jean-Pierre Jeunet and Marc Caro


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVL5_I4CvTc

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/26/Blair_Witch_Project.jpg
The Blair Witch Project (1999) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blair_Witch_Project)
Directed by Daniel Myrick and Eduardo Sánchez


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUkWf8W6pSY

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/10/The_insider_movie_poster_1999.jpg/220px-The_insider_movie_poster_1999.jpg
The Insider (1999) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Insider_%28film%29)
Directed by Michael Mann


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dA3MQFUFq8s

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Waterworld.jpg/215px-Waterworld.jpg
Waterworld (1995) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterworld)
Directed by Kevin Reynolds


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfVxUcwt-KU


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Con Air (1997) ("https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Con_Air")
Directed by Simon West


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WdwWpbXJTs

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/68/Seven_%28movie%29_poster.jpg
Seven (1995) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_%281995_film%29)
Directed by David Fincher


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_NsBYuBZHI

[fernandito]

OHHH WHAT'S IN THE BOOOOOOOOX!?!?!?!

[mae]

Waterworld is unjustly seen as a bad movie but I think it's awesome. Also, I really need to get this:

https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-fan-edit-of-waterworld-now-available-on-official-blu-ray-190127/

A fan-edit cut of the 1995 movie Waterworld is now available as an official Blu-ray release. The original "Ulysses" cut was crowdsourced using extra scenes from various TV broadcasts and publicly shared on The Pirate Bay more than a decade ago. The Blu-ray has been released by Arrow Film, but whether the original 'editor' is aware of it is unknown.

While it’s not one of the most critically acclaimed movies of the recent decades, Waterworld has reached cult status among a subgroup of film fans.

The post-apocalyptic film, featuring Kevin Costner in a lead role, first premiered in 1995. Since then, it’s been shown on TV repeatedly and released on various other media including VHS, DVD, and Blu-ray.

The latest Blu-ray version, created by Arrow Films, was actually sent out just this week. Despite Waterworld being more than two decades old, many fans were eager to get their hands on the copy.

The release includes three Waterworld cuts which were newly restored from the original material. That by itself would be enough to get proper fans excited, but it’s the inclusion of the infamous “Ulysses Cut” that was most anticipated.

Waterworld is known for its many different versions, but this one never officially aired anywhere. It was created by a fan who, together with others, set out to make the longest uncensored edit of Waterworld possible.

The origin of this fan-edit, well documented by the Unheard Nerd, started in 2005.

At the time, a user of the Original Trilogy forum asked if anyone had access to the 40 minutes of Waterworld material that appeared in an ABC broadcast. This generated a long thread where users shared and compared different versions of the film.

In 2006, a user named “Mcfly89,” showed his interest in the project.

“This project sounds great! Is this from a VHS or better? Could anyone post some screenshots? I can’t wait to see this on myspleen or another torrent site,” he wrote.

Mcfly89 later took the lead and after crowdsourcing copies of different broadcasts, he set out to combine these into a long uncensored edit of Waterworld.

The project progressed slowly and by November 2007 the name “Ulysses was first mentioned.

This title refers to the unnamed mariner played by Kevin Costner. He’s given this name toward the end of the film in a scene that was taken out of the theatrical version.

With a name for the project, Mcfly89 continued his work. Helped by other members, who also assisted with an appropriate DVD-cover, the fan-made DVD was ready by the summer of 2008.

Despite a temporary outage on The Pirate Bay, Mcfly89 managed to upload a torrent for the “Ulysses” cut to the site on July 28th, exactly thirteen years after the original premiere.

Today, ten years on, it’s still available on TPB, albeit with no seeders on the official torrent. In the description, Mcfly89 explains the project while thanking the many others who contributed.

“Waterworld: The Ulysses Cut is a fan-made preservation of the extended cut of Waterworld which has been aired on television but never released on home video,” it reads.

“Waterworld is a film notoriously re-cut by the studio after locking the director out of the editing room, and this preservation is an attempt to show some 40 minutes worth of material that was exised.”Many Waterworld fans welcomed the “Ulysses” release and it was even extended by ‘Zaaacharias’ a few years later. It’s not clear whether the original makers were happy with it. Film fans generally see fan-edits as important preservation projects, but copyright holders have gone after such releases as well.

Fast forward another decade and now the Ulysses cut has been released legitimately on a Blu-Ray disc put together by Arrow Films. The movie company used the name of the cut, but it was obviously reconstructed from original footage, not the broadcasts that were used in the fan-edit.

We reached out to Arrow Films to ask what its motivation was and whether it consulted Mcfly89, but the company didn’t respond. We had no luck tracking down Mcfly89 either, who is not mentioned in any of the official Blu-ray release details.

“High Definition Blu-ray (1080p) presentation of the extended European Ulysses cut, which include previously censored shots and dialogue,” is how Arrow Films describes the version.

Waterworld fans surely haven’t forgotten about the cut’s origins. Mcfly89 is mentioned in several reviews, including this on Amazon, from “Lego Trooper” who’s eager to know more about how this official release came about.

“On this lovely 3 disc edition is finally the Ulysses cut which was fan made from a number of different recordings from different cuts of the film shown on TV. The fan in question ‘Mcfly89’ surely deserves a shout out for his efforts.

“It would probably be an interesting read or feature to know how between Universal, Arrow and Mcfly89 The Ulysses Cut has eventually arrived as a 1080p edition,” Lego Trooper adds.

The story is quite remarkable already but we believe that Arrow Films missed a major opportunity here. But perhaps the full story will come out one day, in another decade or so.

[mae]

How is Con Air getting all these votes?

[Randall Flagg]

How is Con Air getting all these votes?
Because it's great.

[fernandito]

Omg. Did someone nominate Face/Off?! Please god please tell me face off is on here!!!!!

[Mattrick]

I nominated Face/Off, Fernando :D

[Mattrick]

Wow, The Insider has the second least votes? That movie is so good. Definitely one of the best dramas of the decade.

[Still Servant]

Blair Witch getting way too much love. I think it got overhyped for me when it came out. I was completely underwhelmed.

[RUBE]

Maybe but that movie is the mother of all the "found footage" horrors that came after. It started a sub-genre so that has to be worth something.

[Heather19]

I love The Blair Witch Project. I remember hearing about it from Sundance and had my eye on it since then. Went to go see it the first second it came nearby. I never really scare at movies, and the only scene that kinda creeped me out was the final one. Well I live in a pretty wooded area and driving home through dark streets surrounded by trees, me and my friend started to freak out :lol: That's one movie that I won't forget.

I'm sad that Delicatessen is in last place, although based on the films that are getting a lot of love I'm not really surprised. It's not a very mainstream movie.

[Jean]

Maybe but that movie is the mother of all the "found footage" horrors that came after. It started a sub-genre so that has to be worth something.
I don't know whose mother it is, but I sure know that I was sick with fear during the last twenty minutes. It doesn't often happen to me. The movie works on some visceral level; although as it is often the case, apparently not for everyone in the same way

Wow, The Insider has the second least votes? That movie is so good. Definitely one of the best dramas of the decade.k, you did it again! I won't vote until I've watched it.
(now I pray nothing happens to my life, memory, account, or internet connection and I am here in time to vote for my personal favorites here, which are Braveheart, Delicatessen and, to a lesser extent, The Blair Witch)

[St. Troy]

In The Blair Witch Project, does everyone recall the scene(s) where they were in the tent and would hear sounds like rocks smacking together (the idea being that the witch was up to something)?

I saw it with my wife; that night, sitting in our living room with the windows open, we heard very similar sounds coming from outside...

[Heather19]

In The Blair Witch Project, does everyone recall the scene(s) where they were in the tent and would hear sounds like rocks smacking together (the idea being that the witch was up to something)?

I saw it with my wife; that night, sitting in our living room with the windows open, we heard very similar sounds coming from outside...

That's what I loved about that movie. How it gets in your head and has you thinking back about it and creeping you out long after you've seen it.

[Mattrick]

I love the Blair Witch Project. Not only is it an effective psychological horror, but it's a testament to low-budget filmmaking and creativity. The 'making of' and how they gave their actors directions, and how the filmmakers were out in the woods fucking with them to get authentic reactions was brilliant. I also find the character interactions quite entertaining.

[Randall Flagg]

I thought BWP was terrible. I traveled 40 miles to see it in a sold out theater. I got tired of people with snot running out of their noses looking into the camera to express their fright. Didn't work at all for me. Therefore I didn't vote for it.

[mae]

This looks so cool, I don't think I've ever seen the three=hour version, but I still love the film anyway:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVRBQnxw_Do

[Jean]

I thought BWP was terrible. I traveled 40 miles to see it in a sold out theater. I got tired of people with snot running out of their noses looking into the camera to express their fright. Didn't work at all for me. Therefore I didn't vote for it. http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mishemplushem/Facilitation/bear_grin.gif (http://s91.photobucket.com/user/mishemplushem/media/Facilitation/bear_grin.gif.html)
I am sure it must be watched at home, at night with the windows open; then the effect is precisely as St.Troy and Heather :rose: said; definitely not in a theater, and absolutely, totally not after a long drive expecting a spectacle. Bleak, slow and sickly hates public and expectations.

[Jean]

Delicatessen is about to drop out

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mishemplushem/Facilitation/bear_cry.gif (http://s91.photobucket.com/user/mishemplushem/media/Facilitation/bear_cry.gif.html)http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mishemplushem/Facilitation/bear_cry.gif (http://s91.photobucket.com/user/mishemplushem/media/Facilitation/bear_cry.gif.html)http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mishemplushem/Facilitation/bear_cry.gif (http://s91.photobucket.com/user/mishemplushem/media/Facilitation/bear_cry.gif.html)

[amd013]

I thought BWP was terrible. I traveled 40 miles to see it in a sold out theater. I got tired of people with snot running out of their noses looking into the camera to express their fright. Didn't work at all for me. Therefore I didn't vote for it. http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mishemplushem/Facilitation/bear_grin.gif (http://s91.photobucket.com/user/mishemplushem/media/Facilitation/bear_grin.gif.html)
I am sure it must be watched at home, at night with the windows open; then the effect is precisely as St.Troy and Heather :rose: said; definitely not in a theater, and absolutely, totally not after a long drive expecting a spectacle. Bleak, slow and sickly hates public and expectations.

Yeah, I agree with this sentiment. I remember when I bought the DVD and popped into into my player (at night alone in the basement), the music/sound effects from the disc menu gave me the creeps.

But I can understand how some of it could be annoying. It lost some credibility during the scenes where they were arguing with each other. I always thought that in a real life situation, the cameras would not be on.

But this movie makes me think of some things King wrote about in Danse Macabre, regarding how things can be scarier if you don't show the monster.

[Heather19]

What about watching Blair Witch out in the middle of the woods at night? :evil:

[webstar1000]

I thought BWP was terrible. I traveled 40 miles to see it in a sold out theater. I got tired of people with snot running out of their noses looking into the camera to express their fright. Didn't work at all for me. Therefore I didn't vote for it.

10000% agree. This movie was all about hype and it was nothing but shit.

[Jean]

But this movie makes me think of some things King wrote about in Danse Macabre, regarding how things can be scarier if you don't show the monster.Precisely. Such things go directly to your guts (brans, nerves, subconscious, whatever it is called) and addres your own fears located there.

What about watching Blair Witch out in the middle of the woods at night? :evil:http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mishemplushem/Facilitation/bear_shocked.gif (http://s91.photobucket.com/user/mishemplushem/media/Facilitation/bear_shocked.gif.html) No!!

[Ricky]

What about watching Blair Witch out in the middle of the woods at night? :evil:

That's how I first saw Halloween, and it was fantastic.

[Jean]

were you there alone??????

[Ricky]

No, I was with friends. But still. :lol:

[mae]

The poll has closed. The following six titles are moving on to the next round:


Braveheart (81.48%)
Seven (81.48%)
Con Air (55.56%)
The Blair Witch Project (55.56%)
South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut (37.04%)
Waterworld (29.63%)


And the following two titles have been eliminated:


The Insider (22.22%)
Delicatessen (14.81%)

[Jean]

Four points. Four. Bears are very sad.