The Outsider series on HBO

[CyberGhostface]

https://deadline.com/2018/06/richard-price-the-outsider-stephen-king-mrc-10-episode-series-jack-bender-marty-bowen-executive-producer-1202407954/

Media Rights Capital is back in business with Stephen King, its partner on The Dark Tower. MRC has optioned the Stephen King #1 bestselling novel The Outsider. MRC plans a 10-episode limited series adaptation, and they have secured Richard Price to write it. Jack Bender and Marty Bowen are exec producing with MRC. Bender and Bowen teamed on the series Mr. Mercedes, and Bender is a possible to direct the pilot for The Outsider. King has the option to join as executive producer. MRC will develop the show with Price writing the pilot before they set it at a network.

[Merlin1958]

:clap::clap::clap:

[Brainslinger]

Wow. Fast. I haven’t even read the novel yet!

[Bev Vincent]

Wow. Fast. I haven’t even read the novel yet!

That's not unprecedented. John Carpenter optioned Christine well before it was published, and the film was out about eight months after the novel.

[herbertwest]

I actually thought that it would be optionalised prior to the release. Wouldnt have been the first time as bev said

[BountyHunter]

Hope they get the same actress to play Holly in this.

[Bev Vincent]

Ben Mendelsohn Will Star in HBO’s Small Screen Adaptation of Stephen King’s “The Outsider” (https://bloody-disgusting.com/tv/3536105/ben-mendelsohn-will-star-hbos-small-screen-adaptation-stephen-kings-outsider/)

Back in May of this year, Scriber released Stephen King’s The Outsider, the prolific author’s latest novel, and it’s already now getting a small screen adaptation from HBO!

Variety reports that Ben Mendelsohn (Ready Player One) will star in the series adaptation, with Jason Bateman on board to direct the first two episodes. Bateman will also exec produce.

In the series, a seemingly straightforward investigation into the gruesome murder of a local boy leads a seasoned cop and an unorthodox investigator to question everything they believe to be real, as an insidious supernatural force edges its way into the case.

Media Rights Capital is the studio and will produce along with Aggregate and Temple Hill Entertainment. Mendelsohn will also produce in addition to starring. Richard Price serves as writer and executive producer. Marty Bowen of Temple Hill will also executive produce along with Michael Costigan of Aggregate and Jack Bender.

[mae]

Great to see it go to HBO. Finally King has started to get premiere-level treatment.

[Merlin1958]

:rock::rock:


:sharepopcorn:

[Brian861]

The book was just meh for me. Maybe it'll adapt better :shrug:

[Merlin1958]

The book was just meh for me. Maybe it'll adapt better :shrug:



Really? I rather enjoyed it and thought it was a better (recent years) effort. At least since, "Dr. Sleep", which I enjoyed immensely.




Edit: Especially liked that he appears to be keeping the "Finders Keepers Agency" open for business!!!!

[Brian861]

The book was just meh for me. Maybe it'll adapt better :shrug:



Really? I rather enjoyed it and thought it was a better (recent years) effort. At least since, "Dr. Sleep", which I enjoyed immensely.

Really looking forward to Dr. Sleep as I loved the novel. GBB was better for me than The Outsider. Currently listening to Elevation and it isn't blowing my hair back either.

[Merlin1958]

The book was just meh for me. Maybe it'll adapt better :shrug:



Really? I rather enjoyed it and thought it was a better (recent years) effort. At least since, "Dr. Sleep", which I enjoyed immensely.

Really looking forward to Dr. Sleep as I loved the novel. GBB was better for me than The Outsider. Currently listening to Elevation and it isn't blowing my hair back either.

If you liked "The Shining", which is likely I think you'll enjoy DS. Felt liked going home again to me. lol

To each his/her own, but I thought GBB & Elevation were really just so-so short stories not novels. JMHO of course.

[Brian861]

The book was just meh for me. Maybe it'll adapt better :shrug:



Really? I rather enjoyed it and thought it was a better (recent years) effort. At least since, "Dr. Sleep", which I enjoyed immensely.

Really looking forward to Dr. Sleep as I loved the novel. GBB was better for me than The Outsider. Currently listening to Elevation and it isn't blowing my hair back either.

If you liked "The Shining", which is likely I think you'll enjoy DS. Felt liked going home again to me. lol

To each his/her own, but I thought GBB & Elevation were really just so-so short stories not novels. JMHO of course.

The Shining novel yes. The movie, hell no.

[CyberGhostface]

The book was just meh for me. Maybe it'll adapt better :shrug:



Really? I rather enjoyed it and thought it was a better (recent years) effort. At least since, "Dr. Sleep", which I enjoyed immensely.

Really looking forward to Dr. Sleep as I loved the novel. GBB was better for me than The Outsider. Currently listening to Elevation and it isn't blowing my hair back either.

If you liked "The Shining", which is likely I think you'll enjoy DS. Felt liked going home again to me. lol

To each his/her own, but I thought GBB & Elevation were really just so-so short stories not novels. JMHO of course.

Yeah found both of them to be a bit underwhelming. Elevation at least would have been served better in some sort of anthology like 'Different Seasons'. With
Gwendy' I was hoping for a payoff that it didn't really deliver (mainly in regards to R.F.)

With The Outsider... I found the first half to be very compelling but at the midway point it just ran out of steam. That it was a supernatural thing was inevitable but I just found the villain to be fairly unremarkable.

[Brian861]

With The Outsider... I found the first half to be very compelling but at the midway point it just ran out of steam. That it was a supernatural thing was inevitable but I just found the villain to be fairly unremarkable.

Agreed.

[Merlin1958]

With The Outsider... I found the first half to be very compelling but at the midway point it just ran out of steam. That it was a supernatural thing was inevitable but I just found the villain to be fairly unremarkable.

Agreed.

x 2. Yeah, he could have delved into the Shape changers' history a little more. I was actually kind of intrigued with the villain and would have enjoyed a little more back story/history. Otherwise though I did enjoy both "halves" of the story. For me I think it was the "Finder's Keepers" element that saved the 2nd half.

[mae]

https://comicbook.com/horror/2019/01/25/the-outsider-tv-series-stephen-king-hbo/

Stephen King's novel The Outsider debuted last year and was shortly after announced as earning a series for HBO. Ben Mendelsohn was previously announced as the star, with an additional 10 cast members confirmed by Deadline.

Cynthia Erivo (Bad Times at the El Royale), Bill Camp (The Looming Tower), Mare Winningham (George Wallace), Paddy Considine (The Ferryman), Julianne Nicholson (Law & Order True Crime: The Menendez Murders), Yul Vázquez (I Am the Night), Jeremy Bobb (The Knick), and Marc Menchaca(Ozark) join the cast as regulars, while Hettienne Park (Hannibal) and Michael Esper (Trust) are confirmed as recurring performers.

Erivo is set to play Holly Gibney, Camp as Howie Gold, Winningham as Jeannie Anderson, Considine as Claude Bolton, Nicholson as Mercy Maitland, Vázquez as Yunis Sablo, Bobb as Alec Pelley, and Menchaca as Jack Hoskins. Park and Esper will star as Tomika Collins and Bill Samuels.

In the novel, "An eleven-year-old boy’s violated corpse is found in a town park. Eyewitnesses and fingerprints point unmistakably to one of Flint City’s most popular citizens. He is Terry Maitland, Little League coach, English teacher, husband, and father of two girls. Detective Ralph Anderson, whose son Maitland once coached, orders a quick and very public arrest. Maitland has an alibi, but Anderson and the district attorney soon add DNA evidence to go with the fingerprints and witnesses. Their case seems ironclad."

"As the investigation expands and horrifying answers begin to emerge, King’s propulsive story kicks into high gear, generating strong tension and almost unbearable suspense. Terry Maitland seems like a nice guy, but is he wearing another face? When the answer comes, it will shock you as only Stephen King can."

The series comes from Richard Price, who has previously written for The Night Of and The Wire, which will ensure that The Outsider will offer audiences a compelling tale of murder and intrigue.

For more than 40 years, King's works have been the inspiration behind movies and TV series, with recent years seeing a swell in adaptations that confirm this trend isn't slowing down anytime soon. The author has previously revealed that, when it comes to adaptations of his works, he enjoys them more when they stick closely to what he chronicled in the original stories.

"I think that they’re the best when they stick close to the books because, I don’t know, I feel a proprietary interest in that," King revealed to the Associated Press. "I always think that some of the adaptations that don’t work that well are ones where they buy the concept, the basic concept, but then say well yes but we’ll do this, that and the other thing to it. So I always feel a little bit like they bought my launching pad and put their own rocket up, and sometimes the rocket explodes... The ones that I like the best are the ones where they stick close to the story and where I see changes and things that have been altered and I say to myself, 'I wish I’d thought of that.'"

There is no production schedule nor platform attached, so we likely shouldn't expect the series to debut until sometime next year.

[DoctorZaius]

I'm so disappointed that Justine Lupe is not getting the chance to continue her portrayal of Holly Gibney. I have loved her work in the first two Mr. Mercedes seasons. From a fanbase standpoint, I think it's a big mistake.

[Merlin1958]

I'm so disappointed that Justine Lupe is not getting the chance to continue her portrayal of Holly Gibney. I have loved her work in the first two Mr. Mercedes seasons. From a fanbase standpoint, I think it's a big mistake.

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[mae]

A brief clip of the show here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MheunhY3Oo4

[Bev Vincent]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I03MAkQ_OyM

[Brian861]

Looks pretty good.

[Merlin1958]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I03MAkQ_OyM



:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[Garrell]

Excited. Looks really good and I am a huge Jason Bateman fan anyways

[craigobau]

Excited. Looks really good and I am a huge Jason Bateman fan anyways

Bateman is fantastic in Ozarks.

[kingfan2323]

Excited. Looks really good and I am a huge Jason Bateman fan anywaysLike him too. Peter Berg directed him in two good movies. If you have not seen The Kingdom and Hancock (or not in a while) check them out. Good stuff.

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Dead Zone 1st Edition F/F or NF/NF

[Garrell]

Ozarks is great and I will check out the other two. Thanks.

[Bev Vincent]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNDKWr3Xmjk&feature=youtu.be

[Merlin1958]

Yeah, Bev those trailers look awesome. I can't wait for this to premiere!!!!!

[Bev Vincent]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyXhEYOjA5U

[Brian861]

Really looking forward to this.

[webstar1000]

Me too.

[Garrell]

Loved the book and this looks great

[kingfan2323]

Loved the book and this looks greatI second both comments !

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[Merlin1958]

Really looking forward to this.


Me too.


Loved the book and this looks great



Loved the book and this looks greatI second both comments !

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I couldn't agree more. The trailers not only look freaking awesome, but also fairly faithful to the book from what you can gather. New Sunday "MUST SEE TV" for me!!!! lol


Edit: Plus, Jason Bateman is a favorite actor. I wonder why they didn't cast the, Holly from Mr. Mercede's? Other commitments? That would have been a score IMHO

[Bev Vincent]

Bateman also directed at least the first two episodes. I've seen the first one already and it is every bit as good as it looks. It's a bit jarring to watch Ben Mendelsohn in the behind-the-scenes video talking with an Australian accent, because he does a great American accent.

Fun fact -- Bateman's character, Terry Maitland, watches the Netflix series Ozark in the novel.

[webstar1000]

Bateman also directed at least the first two episodes. I've seen the first one already and it is every bit as good as it looks. It's a bit jarring to watch Ben Mendelsohn in the behind-the-scenes video talking with an Australian accent, because he does a great American accent.

Fun fact -- Bateman's character, Terry Maitland, watches the Netflix series Ozark in the novel.

Ben is such a good actor too. I like his work a lot.

[Brian861]

I didn't care so much for the book, but the series looks like it might improve on it personally for me. I'll know within a few episodes.

[herbertwest]

Bateman also directed at least the first two episodes. I've seen the first one already and it is every bit as good as it looks. It's a bit jarring to watch Ben Mendelsohn in the behind-the-scenes video talking with an Australian accent, because he does a great American accent.

Fun fact -- Bateman's character, Terry Maitland, watches the Netflix series Ozark in the novel.

Is that an australian accent?
I thought he was speaking a bit weird, but couldnt put my finger on it. Loved the first two episods !

[Iwritecode]

Bateman also directed at least the first two episodes. I've seen the first one already and it is every bit as good as it looks. It's a bit jarring to watch Ben Mendelsohn in the behind-the-scenes video talking with an Australian accent, because he does a great American accent.

Fun fact -- Bateman's character, Terry Maitland, watches the Netflix series Ozark in the novel.

Ben is such a good actor too. I like his work a lot.

I had never even heard of him until I watched Bloodline on Netflix. Now it seems like he's everywhere. Captain Marvel, Rouge One, Ready Player One, Far From Home and now The Outsider...

[Lilja]

Bateman also directed at least the first two episodes. I've seen the first one already and it is every bit as good as it looks.

I agree 100%

Lilja

[Bev Vincent]

My preview (https://www.cemeterydance.com/extras/bev-vincent-reviews-outsider-hbo)

[Garrell]

Great review

[webstar1000]

My preview (https://www.cemeterydance.com/extras/bev-vincent-reviews-outsider-hbo)

I agree... perhaps the MOST exited for this than any other King show. Ben M would not put his name to this if it was shit... cannot wait!

[Ari_Racing]

Saw the first 3 episodes this week and next week I'll see another 3 due to being one of the hosts of the official podcast in Latam.

I
LOVED
IT.

Period.

[Merlin1958]

Sunday, first two episodes. YES!!!!!!!!

[herbertwest]

Saw the first 3 episodes this week and next week I'll see another 3 due to being one of the hosts of the official podcast in Latam.

I
LOVED
IT.

Period.

I've seen the first 6, and I cannot wait to watch the end! It's great!

[Merlin1958]

Saw the first 3 episodes this week and next week I'll see another 3 due to being one of the hosts of the official podcast in Latam.

I
LOVED
IT.

Period.

I've seen the first 6, and I cannot wait to watch the end! It's great!

So, they're doing it as a sort of Mini-series then. They're not going to try and fuck around with it like "Mr. Mercede's" (even though they did pretty well with MM) and extend it to multiple seasons?

[Iwritecode]

Saw the first 3 episodes this week and next week I'll see another 3 due to being one of the hosts of the official podcast in Latam.

I
LOVED
IT.

Period.

I've seen the first 6, and I cannot wait to watch the end! It's great!

So, they're doing it as a sort of Mini-series then. They're not going to try and fuck around with it like "Mr. Mercede's" (even though they did pretty well with MM) and extend it to multiple seasons?

MM made sense to extend out since there were multiple books. Each season followed one of the books (even though they did 2 and 3 out of order).

[Bev Vincent]

Saw the first 3 episodes this week and next week I'll see another 3 due to being one of the hosts of the official podcast in Latam.

I
LOVED
IT.

Period.

I've seen the first 6, and I cannot wait to watch the end! It's great!

So, they're doing it as a sort of Mini-series then. They're not going to try and fuck around with it like "Mr. Mercede's" (even though they did pretty well with MM) and extend it to multiple seasons?

One assumes they could follow up with "If It Bleeds," which features both Ralph and Holly. I don't know if that will happen -- but it's possible.

[Merlin1958]

Saw the first 3 episodes this week and next week I'll see another 3 due to being one of the hosts of the official podcast in Latam.

I
LOVED
IT.

Period.

I've seen the first 6, and I cannot wait to watch the end! It's great!

So, they're doing it as a sort of Mini-series then. They're not going to try and fuck around with it like "Mr. Mercede's" (even though they did pretty well with MM) and extend it to multiple seasons?

MM made sense to extend out since there were multiple books. Each season followed one of the books (even though they did 2 and 3 out of order).







Saw the first 3 episodes this week and next week I'll see another 3 due to being one of the hosts of the official podcast in Latam.

I
LOVED
IT.

Period.

I've seen the first 6, and I cannot wait to watch the end! It's great!

So, they're doing it as a sort of Mini-series then. They're not going to try and fuck around with it like "Mr. Mercede's" (even though they did pretty well with MM) and extend it to multiple seasons?

One assumes they could follow up with "If It Bleeds," which features both Ralph and Holly. I don't know if that will happen -- but it's possible.


Okay, MM was a bad example. I meant that they would depict the story in its entirety. That's cool, Bev as I said so long as they maintain the integrity of each story. That was what I was trying to relate.

[herbertwest]

Saw the first 3 episodes this week and next week I'll see another 3 due to being one of the hosts of the official podcast in Latam.

I
LOVED
IT.

Period.

I've seen the first 6, and I cannot wait to watch the end! It's great!

So, they're doing it as a sort of Mini-series then. They're not going to try and fuck around with it like "Mr. Mercede's" (even though they did pretty well with MM) and extend it to multiple seasons?

One assumes they could follow up with "If It Bleeds," which features both Ralph and Holly. I don't know if that will happen -- but it's possible.

Both of them?
Interesting

[webstar1000]

Is this out yet? Meaning on line to watch as of now? I checked this morning and it was not

[Bob Verdansky]

Is this out yet? Meaning on line to watch as of now? I checked this morning and it was not

Starts tonight (Jan 12) at 9 pm EST. Should be able to watch online then depending on app.

[webstar1000]

Is this out yet? Meaning on line to watch as of now? I checked this morning and it was not

Starts tonight (Jan 12) at 9 pm EST. Should be able to watch online then depending on app.

Thanks!

[Merlin1958]

Very good premiere!!!! Loved it. This is shaping up to be a pretty faithful adaption of the book, which I enjoyed.

[CyberGhostface]

Book spoilers

Kind of surprised out of a ten part miniseries they got through the halfway point with Terry's death at the start of the second episode. Will be interesting to see where the rest goes as I felt this was when the book got less interesting.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Got bored with it halfway through the second episode. First episode was good.

[RichardX]

I saw the first couple of episodes and thought it was pretty good. Actually had greater depth to the characters and plot than the book. There was a lot of jumping around in the first episode that was hard to follow and the trick of muting the dialogue for dramatic effect was played too often but otherwise give it a solid B plus. It gives me some pause, though, that they only allowed the critics to see the first six episodes. Maybe it fizzles out at the end like the book.

[CyberGhostface]

I think that's just how HBO operates, they did the same with Watchmen screeners.

[Ari_Racing]

Saw the first 3 episodes this week and next week I'll see another 3 due to being one of the hosts of the official podcast in Latam.

I
LOVED
IT.

Period.

I've seen the first 6, and I cannot wait to watch the end! It's great!

So, they're doing it as a sort of Mini-series then. They're not going to try and fuck around with it like "Mr. Mercede's" (even though they did pretty well with MM) and extend it to multiple seasons?

One assumes they could follow up with "If It Bleeds," which features both Ralph and Holly. I don't know if that will happen -- but it's possible.

Both of them?
Interesting

Yeap. :)

Saw 6 episodes (every Tuesday from now on I'll see one) and I must say it's up to my high expectations. I really would love HBO adapts more Stephen King stories.

[webstar1000]

Saw the first 3 episodes this week and next week I'll see another 3 due to being one of the hosts of the official podcast in Latam.

I
LOVED
IT.

Period.

I've seen the first 6, and I cannot wait to watch the end! It's great!

So, they're doing it as a sort of Mini-series then. They're not going to try and fuck around with it like "Mr. Mercede's" (even though they did pretty well with MM) and extend it to multiple seasons?

One assumes they could follow up with "If It Bleeds," which features both Ralph and Holly. I don't know if that will happen -- but it's possible.

Both of them?
Interesting

Yeap. :)

Saw 6 episodes (every Tuesday from now on I'll see one) and I must say it's up to my high expectations. I really would love HBO adapts more Stephen King stories.

likeeeeeeeeeeee THE DARK TOWER.

[herbertwest]

Saw the first 3 episodes this week and next week I'll see another 3 due to being one of the hosts of the official podcast in Latam.

I
LOVED
IT.

Period.

I've seen the first 6, and I cannot wait to watch the end! It's great!

So, they're doing it as a sort of Mini-series then. They're not going to try and fuck around with it like "Mr. Mercede's" (even though they did pretty well with MM) and extend it to multiple seasons?

One assumes they could follow up with "If It Bleeds," which features both Ralph and Holly. I don't know if that will happen -- but it's possible.

Both of them?
Interesting

Yeap. :)

Saw 6 episodes (every Tuesday from now on I'll see one) and I must say it's up to my high expectations. I really would love HBO adapts more Stephen King stories.

They've had the rights to ROSE MADDER for many years.
The last I heard about a project, it was in 2017 and the project had moved to a movie that was supposed to be directed by Assaf Bernstein

[Iwritecode]

So HBO had a free weekend and I was able to record the 1st 3 episodes. Watched the first one last night. I really like what I've seen so far. I've always been a fan of Jason Bateman.

Also it looks like they are sticking to the storyline of the book pretty closely. I almost need to read the book again as I don't remember exactly how it ended. Although I remember it being a bit anti-climatic.

Guess I'm going to have to wait until either another free weekend from HBO or I'll have to wait for the DVD release to finish the show though. :frown2:

[Bob Verdansky]

Watched again last night and another great episode, as far as I'm concerned.
I didn't read the book and hadn't planned to but now I might, which I realize is backwards but oh well.

[RichardX]

I like the Holly character much more on the show than in the book for some reason. She does look a bit like the woman on The Walking Dead with that hair but once I got past that her character seems to work.

[Ricky]

Watched the second episode last night and thought all the investigation stuff was a little slow. I liked the premiere much better. I'm liking the so overall, but it's just so dark (in terms of photography, not tone), which isn't necessarily a criticism, just an observation. I think Jason Bateman did a great job.

[CyberGhostface]

So far it's not doing much for me. Kind of dour overall. I think they made a mistake by getting through the halfway point of the book this early on and making it ten episodes.

[Iwritecode]

So far it's not doing much for me. Kind of dour overall. I think they made a mistake by getting through the halfway point of the book this early on and making it ten episodes.

The book is only 560 pages long. Terry was killed on page 185 which is barely a quarter of the way through the story. I think the pacing of the show is pretty spot on. They could've maybe padded it a little and had him killed in the 3rd episode but it's hardly the halfway point.

[georgiesarm]

So far it's not doing much for me. Kind of dour overall. I think they made a mistake by getting through the halfway point of the book this early on and making it ten episodes.

The book is only 560 pages long. Terry was killed on page 185 which is barely a quarter of the way through the story. I think the pacing of the show is pretty spot on. They could've maybe padded it a little and had him killed in the 3rd episode but it's hardly the halfway point.

Page 185/560 would make it almost exactly the 1/3 point, so it would've happened around the end of episode 3 or the beginning of episode 4. I'm wondering how they're gonna pad out the second half of this story, as it was a slog to get through in book form for me and I'm already getting a bit bored by the show.

Nice to see Ben Mendelsohn in a King adaptation after he rejected the offer to play Pennywise, though.

[Heather19]

I agree, I loved the book up until that point, then the rest was a struggle for me. I watched episode 3 last night but it had a hard time keeping my attention. I enjoyed the first 2 episodes a lot more. I do wish they kept Terry around at least through this episode. It seems like they really rushed to kill off his character, when those aspects of the story were the most intriguing.

[georgiesarm]

Yeah, I feel there is more tension and conflict when Terry is alive, which could've been milked more to build up to the moment of his death and Ralph's guilt

[CyberGhostface]

I agree, I loved the book up until that point, then the rest was a struggle for me. I watched episode 3 last night but it had a hard time keeping my attention. I enjoyed the first 2 episodes a lot more. I do wish they kept Terry around at least through this episode. It seems like they really rushed to kill off his character, when those aspects of the story were the most intriguing.

Yeah that was when the book lost steam for me.

Honestly out of all of the King books you could make a show out of it's puzzling that this is what they decided to choose. Same with Sleeping Beauties which was a nightmare to get through.

[Merlin1958]

So far it's not doing much for me. Kind of dour overall. I think they made a mistake by getting through the halfway point of the book this early on and making it ten episodes.



So far it's not doing much for me. Kind of dour overall. I think they made a mistake by getting through the halfway point of the book this early on and making it ten episodes.

The book is only 560 pages long. Terry was killed on page 185 which is barely a quarter of the way through the story. I think the pacing of the show is pretty spot on. They could've maybe padded it a little and had him killed in the 3rd episode but it's hardly the halfway point.




So far it's not doing much for me. Kind of dour overall. I think they made a mistake by getting through the halfway point of the book this early on and making it ten episodes.

The book is only 560 pages long. Terry was killed on page 185 which is barely a quarter of the way through the story. I think the pacing of the show is pretty spot on. They could've maybe padded it a little and had him killed in the 3rd episode but it's hardly the halfway point.

Page 185/560 would make it almost exactly the 1/3 point, so it would've happened around the end of episode 3 or the beginning of episode 4. I'm wondering how they're gonna pad out the second half of this story, as it was a slog to get through in book form for me and I'm already getting a bit bored by the show.

Nice to see Ben Mendelsohn in a King adaptation after he rejected the offer to play Pennywise, though.


I agree, I loved the book up until that point, then the rest was a struggle for me. I watched episode 3 last night but it had a hard time keeping my attention. I enjoyed the first 2 episodes a lot more. I do wish they kept Terry around at least through this episode. It seems like they really rushed to kill off his character, when those aspects of the story were the most intriguing.


Yeah, I feel there is more tension and conflict when Terry is alive, which could've been milked more to build up to the moment of his death and Ralph's guilt



I agree, I loved the book up until that point, then the rest was a struggle for me. I watched episode 3 last night but it had a hard time keeping my attention. I enjoyed the first 2 episodes a lot more. I do wish they kept Terry around at least through this episode. It seems like they really rushed to kill off his character, when those aspects of the story were the most intriguing.

Yeah that was when the book lost steam for me.

Honestly out of all of the King books you could make a show out of it's puzzling that this is what they decided to choose. Same with Sleeping Beauties which was a nightmare to get through.


:sharepopcorn::sharepopcorn::sharepopcorn:

I'm loving it!!!!

[Ricky]

I watched episode 3 last night. I like Holly a lot, and I'm glad she's in it, but I'm still not enjoying the series as much as I'd like. It seems like it's dragging a bit. And I said it a few posts ago, but the cinematography us just so dark.

[Merlin1958]

So far it's not doing much for me. Kind of dour overall. I think they made a mistake by getting through the halfway point of the book this early on and making it ten episodes.



So far it's not doing much for me. Kind of dour overall. I think they made a mistake by getting through the halfway point of the book this early on and making it ten episodes.

The book is only 560 pages long. Terry was killed on page 185 which is barely a quarter of the way through the story. I think the pacing of the show is pretty spot on. They could've maybe padded it a little and had him killed in the 3rd episode but it's hardly the halfway point.




So far it's not doing much for me. Kind of dour overall. I think they made a mistake by getting through the halfway point of the book this early on and making it ten episodes.

The book is only 560 pages long. Terry was killed on page 185 which is barely a quarter of the way through the story. I think the pacing of the show is pretty spot on. They could've maybe padded it a little and had him killed in the 3rd episode but it's hardly the halfway point.

Page 185/560 would make it almost exactly the 1/3 point, so it would've happened around the end of episode 3 or the beginning of episode 4. I'm wondering how they're gonna pad out the second half of this story, as it was a slog to get through in book form for me and I'm already getting a bit bored by the show.

Nice to see Ben Mendelsohn in a King adaptation after he rejected the offer to play Pennywise, though.


I agree, I loved the book up until that point, then the rest was a struggle for me. I watched episode 3 last night but it had a hard time keeping my attention. I enjoyed the first 2 episodes a lot more. I do wish they kept Terry around at least through this episode. It seems like they really rushed to kill off his character, when those aspects of the story were the most intriguing.


Yeah, I feel there is more tension and conflict when Terry is alive, which could've been milked more to build up to the moment of his death and Ralph's guilt


I watched episode 3 last night. I like Holly a lot, and I'm glad she's in it, but I'm still not enjoying the series as much as I'd like. It seems like it's dragging a bit. And I said it a few posts ago, but the cinematography us just so dark.

I like this, Holly as well though I gotta say from what I recall from the book the character was really more of a combination of the two characters (meaning the Holly from the MM series) I don't want to get censured but, again as I recall she wasn't nearly as handsome as the two actors. lol I suppose a face lift is inevitable for TV!!! lol

The overall tone (darkness) is fitting in my opinion, but I do see your point of view and could understand it. As far as them drawing it out I find that somewhat ironic given that the main complaint with most King works is the length. lol Again, for TV I think they are drawing it out a bit and adding a character or two. Didn't, Bev Vincent say that "If it Bleeds" was purchased as well? In which case they may be looking to make more seasons out of the properties.

[CyberGhostface]

I just caught up. Last two episodes were pretty good.

[Brian861]

I just caught up. Last two episodes were pretty good.

I believe I'm two episodes behind but liking it so far.

[jebeare]

I watched episode 3 last night. I like Holly a lot, and I'm glad she's in it, but I'm still not enjoying the series as much as I'd like. It seems like it's dragging a bit. And I said it a few posts ago, but the cinematography us just so dark.

Totally agree on the dragging part. Granted, this wasn't my favorite SK book, but this show is slooooow. As for Holly, I'm not a huge fan of this version. They've made her an eccentric genius rather than the crippling OCD-sufferer that SK wrote in the Hodges trilogy. The actress is doing a great job with what she's been handed, but this just doesn't feel like Holly.

[Merlin1958]

I watched episode 3 last night. I like Holly a lot, and I'm glad she's in it, but I'm still not enjoying the series as much as I'd like. It seems like it's dragging a bit. And I said it a few posts ago, but the cinematography us just so dark.

Totally agree on the dragging part. Granted, this wasn't my favorite SK book, but this show is slooooow. As for Holly, I'm not a huge fan of this version. They've made her an eccentric genius rather than the crippling OCD-sufferer that SK wrote in the Hodges trilogy. The actress is doing a great job with what she's been handed, but this just doesn't feel like Holly.

Yes, they have slowed the plot of the book down, but I still like the pace. I realize that might sound a bit off, but its how I feel. I'm enjoying the show and its overall feel of dread and creepiness. It's building the Cuco up a bit. Also, for those who've not read the book, I think it gives them more time to understand just how creepy and insidious the creature is in all it does. How it really embodies evil in ways that other "Movie Monsters" do not. I don't know just my opinion I suppose, but I'm liking it. I'd like to think that what happened was the producers felt they couldn't do it proper in one season, but only needed another half. HBO then said fuck it draw it out to two full seasons!!! LOL

[Merlin1958]

We're having some fun now!!!!! We're into the "Endgame" now folks!!! Let's see how they wind it up!!!! The trailer looked promising to me.

[Brian861]

All caught up and I'm loving it so far.

[Heather19]

I think I got about 4 episodes in, and then I just kinda stopped. I'll try to finish it, but I honestly have no motivation too. I enjoyed the first couple of episodes, but then they got to the point in the book that went downhill for me, which is where I lost interest in the show as well.

[webstar1000]

I think I got about 4 episodes in, and then I just kinda stopped. I'll try to finish it, but I honestly have no motivation too. I enjoyed the first couple of episodes, but then they got to the point in the book that went downhill for me, which is where I lost interest in the show as well.

The first two are really the only good epsidoes in the show so far for me anyways...

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Thankfully only two more episodes to go!

[Ricky]

The first two are really the only good epsidoes in the show so far for me anyways...

Yeah, I agree with that. I'm still watching but not enjoying it as much as I'd hoped.

[jebeare]

I think I got about 4 episodes in, and then I just kinda stopped. I'll try to finish it, but I honestly have no motivation too. I enjoyed the first couple of episodes, but then they got to the point in the book that went downhill for me, which is where I lost interest in the show as well.

I'm curious where you were when you lost interest. There were two inflection points in The Outsider novel for me. (Quick note, I'm new to the forum, and WAY too lazy to figure out the "SPOILER" rules).

First, when the character whom I honestly thought was the main character took a turn I didn't see coming. Second, when Holly showed up. Both instances led directly to a "What the ____" moment for me. Now, I love me some Stephen King (duh), and I love me some plot twists, too. I wonder if either of my "WTF" moments align with your "I'm out" moment...

[Heather19]

I lost interest when they killed off one of the main characters and then Holly entered. I hated the Mr. Mercedes books and it quickly devolved into one of those.

[Ricky]

I love Holly, but my interest and that gotta-get-to-the-next-page-NOW feeling kind of dropped off after Terry died.

[Merlin1958]

I don't know what it may say about me, but I am thoroughly enjoying the show. I like the slow, dark progress of the plot and I especially like how hard it is to convince most of the characters of the evil presence. I also think that this is one of Kings' moEl Cuoco" is in this story. What heart ache and havoc he creates!!! Nasty bastard is all I got to say!!!

[Merlin1958]

Cool episode last night. A set up for what should be an action packed finale. I can't help but keep wondering why they continue to refer to this as a "season", which to me means they intend to make more shows. As it stands the finale should close out the book and rap things up. I'm wondering if anyone has heard any rumors or what not about them continuing this series somehow past the novel?

[Ari_Racing]

Without entering the spoilers field, I must say that the story If it Bleeds would be a PERFECT second season of the show. It's very related to The Outsider.

[CyberGhostface]

To those who saw the finale...

What did you think of the post-credits tease?

[MikeDuke]

To those who saw the finale...

What did you think of the post-credits tease?
First, I did not read the book but I did enjoy the show. Second, I missed the post credit tease but that's OK.
I like surprises.

[Ari_Racing]

It clearly aims to leave the door open for a second season.

[Ari_Racing]

What I learnt is that the last episode had some other scenes that involved more people but these were cut. I'm hoping these are included in the Blu-ray release.

[CyberGhostface]

It clearly aims to leave the door open for a second season.

I figured but I was wondering what they would do. They seem to be implying a more direct sequel as opposed to just "the continuing adventures of Holly Gibney" which King seems to be doing.

[Ari_Racing]

This has a spoiler of If it Bleeds (not spoiling the end, of course, but the 3rd story's main topic):

The story is as close a second part of the The Outsider as possible. It'd not surprise me if it's adapted as second season

[mae]

https://amazonadviser.com/2020/03/09/the-outsider-dvd-blu-ray-june/

HBO brought us The Outsider to kick off the year. Now it’s time to add the series to your DVD and Blu-ray collection. Well, it’s almost time. The Outsider is heading to DVD and Blu-ray in June 2020.

We’ve only just seen the season finale, which certainly brought a climactic end that makes us need more. The Outsider: The Complete First Season will be on DVD and Blu-ray from June 9, 2020.

There’s some even better news if you love to get it on Digital. You can buy the collection on Digital right now through Amazon Video. This is completely without an HBO subscription, so you can watch it over and over again without thinking about keeping up the monthly payments.

For those willing to wait for the DVD and Blu-ray collections, there are bonus features that you can look forward to. One of those is a look at adapting the Stephen King novel. If you’ve ever wondered what goes into the development of adaptations, this is a chance to see.

You can also go inside all 10 episodes of the series. It’s a chance to learn more about the adaptation of each individual episode, choosing where to end episodes, how to portray characters, and more.

Plus, you get all 10 episodes of the series. You can watch as much as you want with just the one payment.

Bonus features:

EL CUCO. THE BABA YAGA. THE OUTSIDER – All New Featurette
Invitation to Set
Stephen King and The Outsider
Jason Bateman and The Outsider
Adapting The Outsider
Analyzing Holly Gibney
The Outsider: Inside Episodes 1-10

10 one-hour episodes

1. Fish in a Barrel

2. Roanoke

3. Dark Uncle

4. Que Viene el Coco

5. Tear-Drinker

6. The One About The Yiddish Vampire

7. In the Pines, In the Pines

8. Foxhead

9. Tigers and Bears

10. Must/Can’t

For those who missed the series, it’s based on the novel of the same name by Stephen King. The story follows that of a murder of a young boy. When a baseball coach is accused of the rape and murder of the child, the whole town turns against him. However, it turns out that the man may not have been all that guilty.

Is there time to make amends? Will the detective remain focused on the one made despite the evidence suggesting the detective is wrong?

https://amazonadviser.com/files/image-exchange/2016/04/ie_42156.jpeg

[CyberGhostface]

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/outsider-racks-up-strong-ratings-hbo-1283475


The Stephen King adaptation has the biggest audience for a first-year drama at the premium cable outlet since 'Westworld.'
HBO's The Outsider has quietly racked up a big audience over the course of its 10-episode run.

The adaptation of Stephen King's novel hasn't received the media attention of, say, Watchmen or Big Little Lies — but it's brought in more viewers than the former and is approaching the latter's mark in multiplatform audience. The Outsider is drawing the biggest audience for a first-year HBO drama since Westworld in 2016.

[Bev Vincent]

Ben Mendelsohn Doesn't Know About Season 2 – But He's Heard a Few Things (https://www.bleedingcool.com/2020/03/12/the-outsider-ben-mendelsohn-doesnt-know-about-season-2-but-hes-heard-a-few-things/)

So is that a tease for a second season? Mendelsohn just doesn't know – but he's heard a few things:

"This is the God's honest truth: I've been told some way, somewhere, someone is writing, and somewhere that person who's writing is saying, 'Go away until I'm finished.' So no one knows. No one knows whether there'll be another, who'll be in it, what it will be about, any of those questions. I'll put a bet that they make another, but as to who is in or out or what that's about or anything else, I couldn't tell you. That's the God's honest truth."

[webstar1000]

I will not be watching another season. I liked the first couple episodes than it went to shit for me;( This, sadly is the King recreated show syndrome I find.

[Merlin1958]

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/outsider-racks-up-strong-ratings-hbo-1283475


The Stephen King adaptation has the biggest audience for a first-year drama at the premium cable outlet since 'Westworld.'
HBO's The Outsider has quietly racked up a big audience over the course of its 10-episode run.

The adaptation of Stephen King's novel hasn't received the media attention of, say, Watchmen or Big Little Lies — but it's brought in more viewers than the former and is approaching the latter's mark in multiplatform audience. The Outsider is drawing the biggest audience for a first-year HBO drama since Westworld in 2016.


Ben Mendelsohn Doesn't Know About Season 2 – But He's Heard a Few Things (https://www.bleedingcool.com/2020/03/12/the-outsider-ben-mendelsohn-doesnt-know-about-season-2-but-hes-heard-a-few-things/)

So is that a tease for a second season? Mendelsohn just doesn't know – but he's heard a few things:

"This is the God's honest truth: I've been told some way, somewhere, someone is writing, and somewhere that person who's writing is saying, 'Go away until I'm finished.' So no one knows. No one knows whether there'll be another, who'll be in it, what it will be about, any of those questions. I'll put a bet that they make another, but as to who is in or out or what that's about or anything else, I couldn't tell you. That's the God's honest truth."



Well, I'm very interested in the propects for a second season that obviously goes beyond the novel. I'm thinking they would look to continuing the adventures of, Holly Gibney and not the creature, in my humble opinion anyway.

[craigobau]

I have a much greater appreciation of the Holly Gibney character after watching the TV series and think I’ll end up enjoying the story in If It Bleeds featuring Holly a lot more than if I hadn’t seen this adaption.

[Aremag]

I'm using a HBO trial to watch this and I'm up to ep. 8. Overall I'm enjoying it but I'm not really a Holly fan and I really don't care for the changes to the character and the portrayal. This Holly actually makes me appreciate book Holly more. It does seem that they could have trimmed this by a couple of episodes.

[fernandito]

I finally finished this over the weekend. Mixed feelings tbh.. it started out fine enough but then we get less and less Cuco and too much detective work spread out over multiple characters. It felt bogged down. The last few episodes -especially that last one- felt silly and anti-climatic.

[St. Troy]

I finished the novel last month and finished the series last night.

About the series, as a TV show:
It was a good show, quality acting, writing, production etc. (the opposite of a SyFy production, or Spike's The Mist). Having previously read the novel, most of the story was no surprise, but I enjoyed what I got and my family (who hadn't read the novel) did as well.

About the series, as an adaptation:
For the first 3 episodes or so, I actually preferred the TV show; the novel felt like it dragged a bit on some of this stuff, taking too long with sawdust-packed police interviews and Ralph's thoughts prior to arresting Terry (this material was crucial, but could've been much tighter). For the rest of the episodes, I preferred the book, partly because the novel didn't suffer from drag after that point and because the series changed things around, some of which wasn't to my liking: Ralph's relationship with Holly was different, we didn't see the pre-existing bad blood between Ralph and Jack, but mostly what they did to Holly, put well by jebeare:


As for Holly, I'm not a huge fan of this version. They've made her an eccentric genius rather than the crippling OCD-sufferer that SK wrote in the Hodges trilogy. The actress is doing a great job with what she's been handed, but this just doesn't feel like Holly.

This is a different character who also happens to be named "Holly," and that's it (this Holly believes in God and has family she loves and can rely on, and also found a fuck-buddy).

Still, this didn't kill the story for me; as important as she is to The Outsider, I always felt (while reading the novel) that the story really belonged to the other characters. The change to her character was an example of how the series managed to change specifics while still getting the story from the same general A to the same general B. Had it been an iconic story like The Shining, The Stand, or It, these changes would've bothered me (I'm still pissed about what It Chapter 1 did to Mike Hanlon), but it isn't and they don't.

I thought the series made it perfectly obvious that

Ollie Peterson was going to snap (he looked psycho absolutely all the time), whereas King (and we've got to give him credit where credit is due) managed to play these cards close to the vest in the novel (I didn't see it coming at all).

I thought the end was better in the novel, but

adding Claude to the cave (as the series did) made quite a bit of sense, as he would be bitter and angry enough to pull the trigger in that environment.

[fernandito]

What did y'all think of the end-credits scene?

Holly with the large scratch on her forearm.

[Merlin1958]

What did y'all think of the end-credits scene?

Holly with the large scratch on her forearm.

Season two coming soon!!!!! lol

[St. Troy]

What did y'all think of the end-credits scene?

Holly with the large scratch on her forearm.

I didn't know that scene was there until I read this thread, went back and watched it, didn't see the scratch (my family did though).

I'm not sure what to make of it, logically. If the outsider is dead, the scratch means nothing, but if he isn't, then there we go. I guess we don't know enough about what the outsider is to know for sure that Ralph ended its life in the cave. Still, I didn't find that scene all that intriguing, and the ghost of Jack didn't make any sense to me at all.
The whole thing felt tacked on. Honestly, even though I liked this adaptation, I'm kind of ready for it to be over; I don't need a season 2.

[Merlin1958]

What did y'all think of the end-credits scene?

Holly with the large scratch on her forearm.

I didn't know that scene was there until I read this thread, went back and watched it, didn't see the scratch (my family did though).

I'm not sure what to make of it, logically. If the outsider is dead, the scratch means nothing, but if he isn't, then there we go. I guess we don't know enough about what the outsider is to know for sure that Ralph ended its life in the cave. Still, I didn't find that scene all that intriguing, and the ghost of Jack didn't make any sense to me at all.
The whole thing felt tacked on. Honestly, even though I liked this adaptation, I'm kind of ready for it to be over; I don't need a season 2.

Maybe so, but "If it Bleeds" is probably calling to them!!! lol

[St. Troy]

Maybe so, but "If it Bleeds" is probably calling to them!!! lol

I still have to get around to reading that.

[mae]

https://comicbook.com/tv-shows/news/the-outsider-season-2-update-future-yul-vazquez/

Actor Yul Vázquez stars in the new Hulu horror film Books of Blood, inspired by Clive Barker's series of short stories, which is only one of the latest genre projects fans can see him in this year, having also starred in the HBO series The Outsider, based on Stephen King's novel. With the series having covered nearly all of the events of the original novel, many audiences assumed that it would be a limited series event, but Vázquez recently confirmed that we shouldn't consider it a limited series, though he played coy about whether that means the series is definitely getting more seasons or if we can expect to see his character return.

"It's not a limited series," Vázquez shared with ComicBook.com during a recent interview in honor of Books of Blood. "I can't say anything about it, but all I can tell you is that it's not a limited series.

The 10-episode The Outsider follows police detective Ralph Anderson (Ben Mendelsohn), as he sets out to investigate the mutilated body of 11-year-old Frankie Peterson found in the Georgia woods. The mysterious circumstances surrounding this horrifying crime leads Ralph, still grieving the recent death of his own son, to bring in unorthodox private investigator Holly Gibney (Cynthia Erivo), whose uncanny abilities he hopes will help explain the unexplainable.

Like many stories set in the King universe, The Outsider connects to various other stories, with Holly Gibney being the figure who appears in other of the author's stories. Earlier this year, it was reported that the short story If It Bleeds, which sees the detective witnessing news of a school bombing, only for suspicions to be raised that the reporter covering the news could somehow have a connection to the tragedy, was earning an adaptation, which could be a new season of The Outsider.

Earlier this year, star and director Jason Bateman hinted that showrunner Richard Price was looking at ways to expand the series.

"Well I know that they’re talking about it and Richard Price is playing with some ideas and taking some first steps as to what that second year might and feel like," Bateman confirmed with Collider. "Obviously, it’s a complete free-ball because the first season exhausted 100% of [Stephen King’s] book, the IP. So, it’s really all up to him. I never like to step on the lawn of the writers. It’s something that I’ve always stuck with on Ozark. I leave Chris Mundy completely alone and I do my job as a director once I get the script. I chime in every once in a while and offer my opinion, but it’s always for the writer to take if they want and discard if they want."

As we wait to see what the future could hold for The Outsider, we can see Vázquez in Books of Blood.

Watch Books of Blood on Hulu on October 7th. Stay tuned for details on The Outsider.

[mae]

https://ew.com/tv/stephen-king-interview-mr-mercedes-the-stand-the-outsider/

Between Mr. Mercedes and The Outsider, we're now in a world in which there are two Holly Gibneys on television, played by Justine Lupe and Cynthia Erivo. Which is closer to how you envisioned her?

[The Outsider showrunner] Richard Price's concept of Holly was a little bit different than mine. My Holly is kind of an obsessive-compulsive person who comes out of her shell a little by little as the books go forward, until she can stand on her own by the time you get to [her story in] If It Bleeds. One of the most interesting things when you watch [Mr. Mercedes] is you see how Holly's clothes change as the series goes on. You can see that confidence. It's genius to see her blossom in terms of what she wears and how her hair is and all that. Justine Lupe got into that character and did a terrific job with it because she had more time to develop Holly [across three seasons].

Cynthia may get that time, because there's going to be a second season of The Outsider as soon as they can get the production going. And she's terrific, but she's more someone who is kind of almost on the spectrum; a little bit of a savant with the memory of license plates and cars and baseball. One of the funniest things is she knows who's won all these baseball games going back to the '50s, but she never watches.

Millions of people watched The Outsider and now millions of people are going to have the opportunity to watch Mr. Mercedes, and Holly is the character that exists in both universes and I'm curious how people like it.

You mentioned how Holly evolved into the lead of a story in If It Bleeds. Has there been any interest in doing a standalone series on the character? Perhaps triple Hollys?

I don't think so. It's really complicated because of the difference in the two story lines makes it difficult to figure out how that could possibly be done in the world of Richard Price's creation of The Outsider. But if Mr. Mercedes was greenlit for a fourth season, that would be in the realm of possibility.

You mentioned The Outsider is doing a second season (note: HBO has not announced an official second season order). Obviously the first exhausted the material in the great book you wrote. Can you give fans a sense of where that story goes in season 2?

I know exactly where it's going because I have seen some of the scripts. I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you. I'll just say that it's really great and a real spooky paranormal element.

[Garrell]

Interesting news. Holly fan here.

[Brian861]

Interesting news. Holly fan here.

I prefer the portrayal in the Mr. Mercedes series.

[Bev Vincent]

The Outsider, starring Ben Mendelsohn and Cynthia Erivo, has been put into turnaround after HBO opted not to proceed with a second season. MRC, the studio behind the drama series adaptation of Stephen King’s novel, is taking Season 2 out to market.

>>> Source (https://deadline.com/2020/11/the-outsider-canceled-hbo-mrc-shopping-season-2-1234611885/)

[webstar1000]

The Outsider, starring Ben Mendelsohn and Cynthia Erivo, has been put into turnaround after HBO opted not to proceed with a second season. MRC, the studio behind the drama series adaptation of Stephen King’s novel, is taking Season 2 out to market.

>>> Source (https://deadline.com/2020/11/the-outsider-canceled-hbo-mrc-shopping-season-2-1234611885/)

This does not surprise me. IT was good for the first episode.. maybe two. For some reason... King is near impossible to adapt it seems.

[CyberGhostface]

As an adaptation I thought it was pretty solid. If anything they made the conclusion more satisfying.

That being said, where could they go for a second season? I know some people are suggesting "If It Bleeds" but the story would have to be expanded and changed significantly (unless they want Ralph to be offscreen for the entire season and introduce Jerome and his sister instead).

[Merlin1958]

As an adaptation I thought it was pretty solid. If anything they made the conclusion more satisfying.

That being said, where could they go for a second season? I know some people are suggesting "If It Bleeds" but the story would have to be expanded and changed significantly (unless they want Ralph to be offscreen for the entire season and introduce Jerome and his sister instead).

I agree with you regarding the season one adaption. As far as the second season goes they could and probably should go with a wholly different storyline perhaps using "If It Bleeds" as a guideline of sorts.

[fitomad]

The Outsider has been canceled by HBO.

But MRC could brings the show to another stream platform, like Netflix.

[herbertwest]

The Outsider has been canceled by HBO.

But MRC could brings the show to another stream platform, like Netflix.

Yep. Was said above. So I tend to think that you forgot your link

[fitomad]

The Outsider has been canceled by HBO.

But MRC could brings the show to another stream platform, like Netflix.

Yep. Was said above. So I tend to think that you forgot your link

I didn’t notice cause I didn’t read the whole page, I only “scanned” in a fast way

No links from my website, I told you yesterday. Maybe you forget that ;-)

[Merlin1958]

The Outsider has been canceled by HBO.

But MRC could brings the show to another stream platform, like Netflix.

Yep. Was said above. So I tend to think that you forgot your link

I didn’t notice cause I didn’t read the whole page, I only “scanned” in a fast way

No links from my website, I told you yesterday. Maybe you forget that ;-)


Geez, is this what the new "Biden Era" attitude is going to be? We're jumping all over new members just for promoting a website in addition to theiir King fandom? C'mon, man we're a better community than that give the guy a chance!!!

[herbertwest]

The Outsider has been canceled by HBO.

But MRC could brings the show to another stream platform, like Netflix.

Yep. Was said above. So I tend to think that you forgot your link

I didn’t notice cause I didn’t read the whole page, I only “scanned” in a fast way

No links from my website, I told you yesterday. Maybe you forget that ;-)


Geez, is this what the new "Biden Era" attitude is going to be? We're jumping all over new members just for promoting a website in addition to theiir King fandom? C'mon, man we're a better community than that give the guy a chance!!!

C'mon man. He first published 2 posts that were explicitly only about bringing trafic to his website. Until I pointed it out.
I absolutely don't mind any newcomers. But make a minimum of effort and disguise that you are only here to bring traffic to your website.

No worries Merlin, we know we don't agree on anything ;)

[fernandito]

I enjoyed the show but once they overly explained the Big Bad it lost a lot of the mystique and intrigue for me. 1 season was enough I think.

[Merlin1958]

The Outsider has been canceled by HBO.

But MRC could brings the show to another stream platform, like Netflix.

Yep. Was said above. So I tend to think that you forgot your link

I didn’t notice cause I didn’t read the whole page, I only “scanned” in a fast way

No links from my website, I told you yesterday. Maybe you forget that ;-)


Geez, is this what the new "Biden Era" attitude is going to be? We're jumping all over new members just for promoting a website in addition to theiir King fandom? C'mon, man we're a better community than that give the guy a chance!!!

C'mon man. He first published 2 posts that were explicitly only about bringing trafic to his website. Until I pointed it out.
I absolutely don't mind any newcomers. But make a minimum of effort and disguise that you are only here to bring traffic to your website.

No worries Merlin, we know we don't agree on anything ;)

Oh, blow me. It's easier to steer focus and blame on me to validate your point because my political views differ from yours. Sounds an awful like the kind of thing you guys often rail on about :confused: The guy subsequently posted and has continued to post. Who made you the DT.Org posting police? You read minds like, Danny now? Let him be free to post and enjoy the site unfettered.

[fitomad]

The Outsider has been canceled by HBO.

But MRC could brings the show to another stream platform, like Netflix.

Yep. Was said above. So I tend to think that you forgot your link

I didn’t notice cause I didn’t read the whole page, I only “scanned” in a fast way

No links from my website, I told you yesterday. Maybe you forget that ;-)


Geez, is this what the new "Biden Era" attitude is going to be? We're jumping all over new members just for promoting a website in addition to theiir King fandom? C'mon, man we're a better community than that give the guy a chance!!!

C'mon man. He first published 2 posts that were explicitly only about bringing trafic to his website. Until I pointed it out.
I absolutely don't mind any newcomers. But make a minimum of effort and disguise that you are only here to bring traffic to your website.

No worries Merlin, we know we don't agree on anything ;)

Oh, blow me. It's easier to steer focus and blame on me to validate your point because my political views differ from yours. Sounds an awful like the kind of thing you guys often rail on about :confused: The guy subsequently posted and has continued to post. Who made you the DT.Org posting police? You read minds like, Danny now? Let him be free to post and enjoy the site unfettered.

Thanks!

[fitomad]

The Outsider has been canceled by HBO.

But MRC could brings the show to another stream platform, like Netflix.

Yep. Was said above. So I tend to think that you forgot your link

I didn’t notice cause I didn’t read the whole page, I only “scanned” in a fast way

No links from my website, I told you yesterday. Maybe you forget that ;-)


Geez, is this what the new "Biden Era" attitude is going to be? We're jumping all over new members just for promoting a website in addition to theiir King fandom? C'mon, man we're a better community than that give the guy a chance!!!

C'mon man. He first published 2 posts that were explicitly only about bringing trafic to his website. Until I pointed it out.
I absolutely don't mind any newcomers. But make a minimum of effort and disguise that you are only here to bring traffic to your website.

No worries Merlin, we know we don't agree on anything ;)

Relax buddy, relax.

[Ricky]

I don't really need another season of The Outsider.

[Brian861]

I don't really need another season of The Outsider.

Nor another related book/short story. Time to move on.

[Ricky]

I don't know if I'd go that far. I loved the If It Bleeds novella (and Holly's character development), but agree that I'd rather have an unrelated book than another installment with the same characters...at least for now.

[Brian861]

I don't know if I'd go that far. I loved the If It Bleeds novella (and Holly's character development), but agree that I'd rather have an unrelated book than another installment with the same characters...at least for now.

I like the character but fear that's all we'll get for her moving forward. If It Bleeds=The Outsider 2.0. I've already taken it that far, had lunch, and headed back home lol.

[Merlin1958]

I don't know if I'd go that far. I loved the If It Bleeds novella (and Holly's character development), but agree that I'd rather have an unrelated book than another installment with the same characters...at least for now.



I don't know if I'd go that far. I loved the If It Bleeds novella (and Holly's character development), but agree that I'd rather have an unrelated book than another installment with the same characters...at least for now.

I like the character but fear that's all we'll get for her moving forward. If It Bleeds=The Outsider 2.0. I've already taken it that far, had lunch, and headed back home lol.


I wasn't aware that other stories were an option here. If so, I would agree take on something else. FWIW there seems to be a significantly higher success rate adapting his short stories over his novels. If you accept that as fact there is a veritable treasure trove of quality stories out there.

Moving the discussion forward in that vein, "Quitter's, Inc>" was and is always a favorite of mine perhaps due mainly to the subject matter than anything else. But a "Top 10 list" would have to include (off tghe top of my head), Shawshank, Stand by me, 11/22/63, Apt Pupil and Maximum Overdrive (for its time it was a goodie IMO).

Care to further the discussion with addition short story adaptions past or projected?