Netflix

[Still Servant]

Okja - a Netflix original. Wow. Not sure how to review this one. One part kid's movie, one part cautionary tale, one part totally grotesque (not for the kiddies). One thing's for sure, it's a thought provoking look at the meat-producing food industry. Be prepared for some some over-the-top performances from Tilda Swinton (plays twins), and Jake Gyllenhaal (animal tv host). In the end I really was moved by it. 8/10.

Okja really is an interesting film. Joon-ho Bong is one of my favorite filmmakers and it's refreshing to see a film like this come to Netflix. I think that is one of the best things about a studio like Netflix. It's now a home to more original, quirky forms of film and TV.

I love Jake Gyllenhaal (I actually just saw Stronger today and I was blown away by his performance) but he's really odd in this one. I'm still not sure if it was an awful or brilliant performance. He seemed like he was in a different film.

[mae]

Added recently:


Saw (2004): http://www.netflix.com/title/70003226 (and the other ones)
The Voices (2014): http://www.netflix.com/title/70299865
Teeth (2007): http://www.netflix.com/title/70059630
The New Daughter (2009): http://www.netflix.com/title/70118797
Little Monsters (1989): http://www.netflix.com/title/60035622
Cube (1997): http://www.netflix.com/title/60027486
Cube 2: Hypercube (2002): http://www.netflix.com/title/60027493
Cube Zero (2004): http://www.netflix.com/title/70021259
Battle Royale (2000): http://www.netflix.com/title/70004548
Donnie Darko (2001): http://www.netflix.com/title/60022315
Barakah Meets Barakah (2016): http://www.netflix.com/title/80103282
Voltron: Legendary Defender: Season 4: http://www.netflix.com/title/80075595
Mindhunter: Season 1: http://www.netflix.com/title/80114855
The Meyerowitz Stories (New and Selected) (2017): http://www.netflix.com/title/80174434
The Babysitter (2017): http://www.netflix.com/title/80164456

[Still Servant]

Dying to watch Mindhunter, but I'm crazy behind on TV because the Yankees are in the playoffs.

[Brian861]

Dying to watch Mindhunter, but I'm crazy behind on TV because the Yankees are in the playoffs.

Just got done watching the entire 1 season. I thoroughly enjoyed it!

Might checkout The Baby Sitter tomorrow. Or later today rather :)

[Heather19]

Dying to watch Mindhunter, but I'm crazy behind on TV because the Yankees are in the playoffs.

Just got done watching the entire 1 season. I thoroughly enjoyed it!

Might checkout The Baby Sitter tomorrow. Or later today rather :)

If you watch it, let me know how it is.

[Brian861]

Dying to watch Mindhunter, but I'm crazy behind on TV because the Yankees are in the playoffs.

Just got done watching the entire 1 season. I thoroughly enjoyed it!

Might checkout The Baby Sitter tomorrow. Or later today rather :)

If you watch it, let me know how it is.

Will do! Off topic with this being a Netflix thread, but Amazon Prime has a horror anthology show/series out now entitled Lore. Although I haven't checked it out yet, sounds interesting considering the season and all.

[becca69]

Dying to watch Mindhunter, but I'm crazy behind on TV because the Yankees are in the playoffs.

Just got done watching the entire 1 season. I thoroughly enjoyed it!

Might checkout The Baby Sitter tomorrow. Or later today rather :)

If you watch it, let me know how it is.

Will do! Off topic with this being a Netflix thread, but Amazon Prime has a horror anthology show/series out now entitled Lore. Although I haven't checked it out yet, sounds interesting considering the season and all.

I watched the pilot episode. I wasn't thrilled with it. It reminded me of shows from the 80s & 90s like Amazing Stories, Beyond Belief, or maybe the newer Mysteries at the Museum, only boring. I started to lose interest but once I start a show, I try to finish it. I really hope it gets better.

[Brian861]

Will do! Off topic with this being a Netflix thread, but Amazon Prime has a horror anthology show/series out now entitled Lore. Although I haven't checked it out yet, sounds interesting considering the season and all.

I watched the pilot episode. I wasn't thrilled with it. It reminded me of shows from the 80s & 90s like Amazing Stories, Beyond Belief, or maybe the newer Mysteries at the Museum, only boring. I started to lose interest but once I start a show, I try to finish it. I really hope it gets better.

The first episode of Mindhunter was boring and slow to me as well. After that, it really took off. I'll usually give any show 3 strikes unless it's absolutely horrible.

[Still Servant]

Will do! Off topic with this being a Netflix thread, but Amazon Prime has a horror anthology show/series out now entitled Lore. Although I haven't checked it out yet, sounds interesting considering the season and all.

I watched the pilot episode. I wasn't thrilled with it. It reminded me of shows from the 80s & 90s like Amazing Stories, Beyond Belief, or maybe the newer Mysteries at the Museum, only boring. I started to lose interest but once I start a show, I try to finish it. I really hope it gets better.

The first episode of Mindhunter was boring and slow to me as well. After that, it really took off. I'll usually give any show 3 strikes unless it's absolutely horrible.

Yeah, I use the 3 strike rule too. Unless something is just really bad like you said, which was the case with The Mist.

[Ricky]

I watched the pilot episode. I wasn't thrilled with it. It reminded me of shows from the 80s & 90s like Amazing Stories, Beyond Belief, or maybe the newer Mysteries at the Museum, only boring. I started to lose interest but once I start a show, I try to finish it.

Do the episodes have a plot, or is it more like one of those SyFy/Travel Channel "this is what happened" kind of thing with narration?

[Brian861]

Dying to watch Mindhunter, but I'm crazy behind on TV because the Yankees are in the playoffs.

Just got done watching the entire 1 season. I thoroughly enjoyed it!

Might checkout The Baby Sitter tomorrow. Or later today rather :)

If you watch it, let me know how it is.

I watched the trailer, Heather and that was enough for me. Preteen/Teenage flick from what I gathered.

[Brian861]

I watched the pilot episode. I wasn't thrilled with it. It reminded me of shows from the 80s & 90s like Amazing Stories, Beyond Belief, or maybe the newer Mysteries at the Museum, only boring. I started to lose interest but once I start a show, I try to finish it.

Do the episodes have a plot, or is it more like one of those SyFy/Travel Channel "this is what happened" kind of thing with narration?

Yea, it's kinda like that. I watched 3 episodes and really enjoyed it. I could see where it would bore some but this kinda stuff interest me.

[Br!an]

Dying to watch Mindhunter, but I'm crazy behind on TV because the Yankees are in the playoffs.

Just got done watching the entire 1 season. I thoroughly enjoyed it!

Might checkout The Baby Sitter tomorrow. Or later today rather :)

I've watched three episodes. I like it. I'm thinking it will keep getting better.

Just seeing the '70s cars and clothes is a lot of fun.

[mae]

Recently added:


1922 (2017): http://www.netflix.com/title/80135164
While We're Young (2015): http://www.netflix.com/title/80017286
The Mist: Season 1: http://www.netflix.com/title/80135414
The Hateful Eight (2015): http://www.netflix.com/title/80064515
Stranger Things: Season 2: http://www.netflix.com/title/80057281

[Iwritecode]

Recently added:


1922 (2017): http://www.netflix.com/title/80135164
While We're Young (2015): http://www.netflix.com/title/80017286
The Mist: Season 1: http://www.netflix.com/title/80135414
The Hateful Eight (2015): http://www.netflix.com/title/80064515
Stranger Things: Season 2: http://www.netflix.com/title/80057281


Is it just me or do all the links in this thread go to some shopping site? It doesn't matter which one I click. Even the older ones from days/weeks ago. They all go here:

https://www.viglink.com/shop/query/title

:confused:

[mae]

Could be a malware situation with your browser. Links are direct to Netflix. Try a different browser and run a malware check.

[Heather19]

That happens to me as well. There should be a little link that says something like skip and continue to Netflix.

[Iwritecode]

Could be a malware situation with your browser. Links are direct to Netflix. Try a different browser and run a malware check.

It'd be a pretty specific malware. It doesn't happen with any other links on this board. Nor does it happen with any other links on any other site.

It's just the Netflix links in this thread.

Although I did just notice all the links are http instead of https. That may be why I'm having the problem. When I copy/paste the link into my browser and add the "s", it works fine.

[Still Servant]

Could be a malware situation with your browser. Links are direct to Netflix. Try a different browser and run a malware check.

It'd be a pretty specific malware. It doesn't happen with any other links on this board. Nor does it happen with any other links on any other site.

It's just the Netflix links in this thread.

Although I did just notice all the links are http instead of https. That may be why I'm having the problem. When I copy/paste the link into my browser and add the "s", it works fine.

That's really odd. It's not malware, at least not on our end. It's happening to all of us. I clicked on one of those Netflix links in this very thread last week and it worked, so it's recent.

Also, adding the "s" doesn't work for me. Brings me to the same redirect link. I haven't looked into it, but I'm wondering if it's an issue on your end, Pablo.

[Still Servant]

Test with "s": https://www.netflix.com/title/80114855

Test no "s": http://www.netflix.com/title/80114855

This link should go to Mindhunter. I want to see if it's also doing it for someone other than Pablo.

EDIT: It's doing it for my links too. Very interesting. I might have to look into this. Hell, I'm wondering if Netflix should look into this.

[DoctorZaius]

Dying to watch Mindhunter, but I'm crazy behind on TV because the Yankees are in the playoffs.

Just got done watching the entire 1 season. I thoroughly enjoyed it!

Might checkout The Baby Sitter tomorrow. Or later today rather :)

I've watched three episodes. I like it. I'm thinking it will keep getting better.

Just seeing the '70s cars and clothes is a lot of fun.

Six episodes in, and loving every minute! Mindhunter is my new obsession.

[dnemec]

Dying to watch Mindhunter, but I'm crazy behind on TV because the Yankees are in the playoffs.

Just got done watching the entire 1 season. I thoroughly enjoyed it!

Might checkout The Baby Sitter tomorrow. Or later today rather :)

I've watched three episodes. I like it. I'm thinking it will keep getting better.

Just seeing the '70s cars and clothes is a lot of fun.

Six episodes in, and loving every minute! Mindhunter is my new obsession.

Just saw this one, thanks to Still Servant. (BTW, both links went to the same place for me!) I read the book by John Douglas, and it was fascinating. Dammit! I already don't have enough time to watch all this stuff!

[mae]

Also, adding the "s" doesn't work for me. Brings me to the same redirect link. I haven't looked into it, but I'm wondering if it's an issue on your end, Pablo.

Nope, both types work as they should for me. Are you signed in on Netflix?

[Still Servant]

Also, adding the "s" doesn't work for me. Brings me to the same redirect link. I haven't looked into it, but I'm wondering if it's an issue on your end, Pablo.

Nope, both types work as they should for me. Are you signed in on Netflix?

Yeah. I tried clicking while logged in and logged out and it keeps bringing me to the same site.

The links work perfectly fine on my Android tablet.

[Joe315]

There was some discussion about viglink before but I don’t remember the outcome. Maybe RF can chime in.

[Iwritecode]

Test with "s": https://www.netflix.com/title/80114855

Test no "s": http://www.netflix.com/title/80114855

This link should go to Mindhunter. I want to see if it's also doing it for someone other than Pablo.

EDIT: It's doing it for my links too. Very interesting. I might have to look into this. Hell, I'm wondering if Netflix should look into this.

Clicking on either link takes me to the viglink site. Copy/pasting either link works perfectly fine. So it's something to do with it being a hotlink from this site.

[Randall Flagg]

Not malware. Working on it.

[Brian861]

Haven't checked it out yet but the series Wanted looks to be pretty good.

[dnemec]

Dying to watch Mindhunter, but I'm crazy behind on TV because the Yankees are in the playoffs.

Just got done watching the entire 1 season. I thoroughly enjoyed it!

Might checkout The Baby Sitter tomorrow. Or later today rather :)

If you watch it, let me know how it is.

Will do! Off topic with this being a Netflix thread, but Amazon Prime has a horror anthology show/series out now entitled Lore. Although I haven't checked it out yet, sounds interesting considering the season and all.

Thanks for the Lore recommendation! I saw pics for the episode with Robert the Doll, so that along with your recommendation sold it! Yes, it can be a bit boring to slog through, but the stories overall are rather interesting. 3 episodes in, and I like it!

[Brian861]

Thanks for the Lore recommendation! I saw pics for the episode with Robert the Doll, so that along with your recommendation sold it! Yes, it can be a bit boring to slog through, but the stories overall are rather interesting. 3 episodes in, and I like it!

Robert the Doll is creepy as hell :scared:

[Heather19]

I went to visit him back when I was down in the Keys a number of years ago :)

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4514/38067889026_b90ea66a23_z.jpg

[Ricky]

Creepy! Heather, do you think that's why you hurt your wrist?! :o

:lol:

(Also, what's the stuff inside with him--and the writing in the card?)

[dnemec]

Neat, Heather! I'd love to go meet him!

[Heather19]

Creepy! Heather, do you think that's why you hurt your wrist?! :o

:lol:

(Also, what's the stuff inside with him--and the writing in the card?)

It was a long time ago, so I'd say no :lol: They had tons of fan mail and letters to him. The wall behind him is covered with more. There's a letter in the case with him from George W Bush wishing him a happy 101st birthday.



Neat, Heather! I'd love to go meet him!

It was neat. If you're ever in the area I'd recommend visiting him.

[Ricky]

George Bush? Oh wow. :lol:

[Heather19]

George Bush? Oh wow. :lol:

Here's a close-up of the letter :lol: I had to zoom in but hopefully you can read it.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4454/38083310516_b0d1481305_c.jpg

[Brian861]

Hope you asked him permission for the photo :evil:

[Heather19]

I did, I was very nice to him :D

[Brian861]

I did, I was very nice to him :D

:thumbsup:

[Ricky]

Courage? What the hell? Isn't he supposedly attached to a demon? :lol:

[mae]

Added today:


Longmire: Season 6: http://www.netflix.com/title/70269479
The Punisher: Season 1: http://www.netflix.com/title/80117498
Mudbound (2017): http://www.netflix.com/title/80175694

[Brian861]

Watched a few episodes of The Fall. Agent Scully gets a little naughty in this one :evil:

[Bev Vincent]

Watched a few episodes of The Fall. Agent Scully gets a little naughty in this one :evil:

That's a great series -- she has some kinks, for sure.

[mae]

Added in the last few days:


Godless: Season 1: http://www.netflix.com/title/80097141
The Boss Baby (2017): http://www.netflix.com/title/80146758
She's Gotta Have It: Season 1: http://www.netflix.com/title/80117554
Frontier: Season 2: http://www.netflix.com/title/80099656
Broadchurch: Season 3: http://www.netflix.com/title/70302484
The Young Victoria (2009): http://www.netflix.com/title/70095147
While You Were Sleeping (1995): http://www.netflix.com/title/1117761
V for Vendetta (2005): http://www.netflix.com/title/70039175
Turn: Season 4: http://www.netflix.com/title/70302007
Princess Kaiulani (2009): http://www.netflix.com/title/70139551 - starring Q'orianka Kilcher (Pocahontas in The New World)
Hatfields & McCoys (2012): http://www.netflix.com/title/70269388
Full Metal Jacket (1987): http://www.netflix.com/title/528677
Exporting Raymond (2010): http://www.netflix.com/title/70178308
Easy: Season 2: http://www.netflix.com/title/80095699
Dreamcatcher (2003): http://www.netflix.com/title/60027202
Dark: Season 1: http://www.netflix.com/title/80100172
The Adventures of Tintin (2011): http://www.netflix.com/title/70121502
Ace Ventura: Pet Detective (1994): http://www.netflix.com/title/215309
Ace Ventura: When Nature Calls (1995): http://www.netflix.com/title/215318
8 Mile (2002): http://www.netflix.com/title/60024922

[Brian861]

Binged Making a Murderer over two nights. Late to the party on this one but, wow! Crazy stuff.

[Iwritecode]

All the trailers for season 4 of Black Mirror. (https://techcrunch.com/2017/12/07/netflix-posts-trailers-for-each-episode-of-black-mirror-season-4-plus-a-release-date/)

Release date is Dec 29. :clap::excited:

[webstar1000]

All the trailers for season 4 of Black Mirror. (https://techcrunch.com/2017/12/07/netflix-posts-trailers-for-each-episode-of-black-mirror-season-4-plus-a-release-date/)

Release date is Dec 29. :clap::excited:

I have tried twice to get into this... cannot get by season 1, episode 1.

[Iwritecode]

All the trailers for season 4 of Black Mirror. (https://techcrunch.com/2017/12/07/netflix-posts-trailers-for-each-episode-of-black-mirror-season-4-plus-a-release-date/)

Release date is Dec 29. :clap::excited:

I have tried twice to get into this... cannot get by season 1, episode 1.

Yea, that episode was probably the worst of the bunch. You could probably skip over it and not miss anything. The 2nd and 3rd episodes are slightly better.

"White Christmas" was when it really hit it's stride IMO.

[mae]

Recently added:


Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (2017): http://www.netflix.com/title/80156386
Born in China (2016): http://www.netflix.com/title/80085318
Taare Zameen Par (2007): http://www.netflix.com/title/70087087
The Oath (2016): http://www.netflix.com/title/80156405
The Crown: Season 2: http://www.netflix.com/title/80025678

[mae]

Recently added:

Ash vs. Evil Dead: Seasons 1-2: http://www.netflix.com/title/80049277
The Unknown Girl (2016): http://www.netflix.com/title/80107019
Halt and Catch Fire: Season 4 http://www.netflix.com/title/70302182
Brave New Jersey (2016): http://www.netflix.com/title/80197310

[zelig]

I’ve been watching season 2 of The Crown and enjoying it just as much. It’s a classy show.

[mae]

Added recently:


Before I Wake (2016): http://www.netflix.com/title/80002667
Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee: 4 Collections: http://www.netflix.com/title/80171362
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales (2017): http://www.netflix.com/title/80149092
The Age of Shadows (2016): http://www.netflix.com/title/80139199
Apollo 13 (1995): http://www.netflix.com/title/262866
Batman (1989): http://www.netflix.com/title/287290
Batman Returns (1992): http://www.netflix.com/title/287357
Batman Forever (1995): http://www.netflix.com/title/287348
Batman & Robin (1997): http://www.netflix.com/title/1154332
Batman Begins (2005): http://www.netflix.com/title/70021642
Breakfast at Tiffany's (1961): http://www.netflix.com/title/330201
Caddyshack (1980): http://www.netflix.com/title/343044
Cinema Paradiso (1988): http://www.netflix.com/title/60022965
The Crying Game (1992): http://www.netflix.com/title/70020296
The Godfather (1972): http://www.netflix.com/title/60011152
The Godfather: Part II (1974): http://www.netflix.com/title/60011663
The Godfather: Part III (1990): http://www.netflix.com/title/60011153
King Kong (2005): http://www.netflix.com/title/70021664
Lethal Weapon (1987): http://www.netflix.com/title/696471
Lethal Weapon 2 (1989): http://www.netflix.com/title/696480
Lethal Weapon 3 (1992): http://www.netflix.com/title/696489
Lethal Weapon 4 (1998): http://www.netflix.com/title/17142958
Like Water for Chocolate (1992): http://www.netflix.com/title/701346
Love Actually (2003): http://www.netflix.com/title/60031262
The Lovely Bones (2009): http://www.netflix.com/title/70112367
Lovesick: Season 3: http://www.netflix.com/title/80041601
Marie Antoinette (2006): http://www.netflix.com/title/70044601
The Men Who Stare at Goats (2009): http://www.netflix.com/title/70117293
Midnight in Paris (2011): http://www.netflix.com/title/70181730
The Missing Picture (2013): http://www.netflix.com/title/70285668
National Treasure (2004): http://www.netflix.com/title/70011206
Nymphomaniac: Volume I (2013): http://www.netflix.com/title/70297799
Nymphomaniac: Volume II (2013): http://www.netflix.com/title/70298926
The Shawshank Redemption (1994): http://www.netflix.com/title/70005379
Stone (2010): http://www.netflix.com/title/70124975
Super Dark Times (2017): http://www.netflix.com/title/80184135
Training Day (2001): http://www.netflix.com/title/60021234
The Truman Show (1998): http://www.netflix.com/title/11819086
Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory (1971): http://www.netflix.com/title/60020949
Goon: Last of the Enforcers (2016): http://www.netflix.com/title/80163263
Black Mirror: Season 4: http://www.netflix.com/title/70264888
Shelter (2010): http://www.netflix.com/title/70132228
Clash (2016): http://www.netflix.com/title/80147323
Mr. Roosevelt (2017): http://www.netflix.com/title/80182473
Travelers: Season 2: http://www.netflix.com/title/80105699
Cable Girls: Season 2: http://www.netflix.com/title/80100929
Planet Earth II (2016): http://www.netflix.com/title/80195377
Bright (2017): http://www.netflix.com/title/80119234
Peaky Blinders: Season 4: http://www.netflix.com/title/80002479

[Still Servant]

I watched Before I Wake today. I've been waiting for that one for a few years because I like Flanagan. It was pretty good.

[zelig]

This is a really good show I’m watching at the moment: La Casa de papel. On episode 4. Highly recommended.

[Iwritecode]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf_YjzEvYeQ

[mae]

Oh boy, I kinda stopped updating this thread huh? Sorry. Netflix has added some good stuff in the meantime. This is not everything that's interesting that's been added recently but some of the more recent stuff:


FullMetal Alchemist (2017): http://www.netflix.com/title/80223731
The Breadwinner (2017): http://www.netflix.com/title/80217121
Bates Motel: Season 5: http://www.netflix.com/title/70272479
Lincoln (2012): http://www.netflix.com/title/70251896
Hap and Leonard: Season 2: http://www.netflix.com/title/80032178
Seven Seconds: Season 1: http://www.netflix.com/title/80117555
Mute (2018): http://www.netflix.com/title/80119233
Marseille: Season 2: http://www.netflix.com/title/80037278
Born to Be Blue (2015): http://www.netflix.com/title/80081276
Crazy Ex-Girlfriend: Season 3: http://www.netflix.com/title/80066227
Veronica (2017): http://www.netflix.com/title/80109295
Wind River (2017): http://www.netflix.com/title/80173524
Wet Hot American Summer (2001): http://www.netflix.com/title/60021299
Up in the Air (2009): http://www.netflix.com/title/70117902
Revolutionary Road (2008): http://www.netflix.com/title/70100383
The Negotiator (1998): http://www.netflix.com/title/16915198
Moon (2009): http://www.netflix.com/title/70112500
The Lazarus Project (2008): http://www.netflix.com/title/70105820
LA 92 (2017): http://www.netflix.com/title/80184131
Inconceivable (2017): http://www.netflix.com/title/80188099
The Gift (2015): http://www.netflix.com/title/80046694
Ghostbusters (1984): http://www.netflix.com/title/541018
Ghostbusters 2 (1989): http://www.netflix.com/title/541027
Forgetting Sarah Marshall (2008): http://www.netflix.com/title/70084800
The Fifth Estate (2013): http://www.netflix.com/title/70276712
The Descent (2005): http://www.netflix.com/title/70053469
Cruel Intentions (1999): http://www.netflix.com/title/18962136
Casino (1995): http://www.netflix.com/title/70019012
The Bucket List (2007): http://www.netflix.com/title/70077542
The Brothers Grimm (2005): http://www.netflix.com/title/70021661
Ai Weiwei: Never Sorry (2012): http://www.netflix.com/title/70229921
Adventureland (2009): http://www.netflix.com/title/70099787
300 (2007): http://www.netflix.com/title/70056440
Voltron: Legendary Defender: Season 5: http://www.netflix.com/title/80075595
Gook (2017): http://www.netflix.com/title/80174137

[Br!an]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9OzG53VwIk

[Brian861]

Looks wickedly good.

[mae]

Oh I completely forgot about this thread. :unsure:

[Heather19]

I'm excited for both The Haunting of Hill House and Sabrina.

[Earl of Popkin]

Caught Malevolence last night. If you’re into character arcs or development, then this is not the movie for you. Is about a group of millennial fraudsters that pretend to be ghost hunters that prey on people that are grieving...until they get in over their heads.

Not the least bit memorable, but there are a couple scares and spine tingling moments. The main girl is excellent; she straight up carries every single frame of this and I hope she starts popping up elsewhere. She’d fit right in to the King Cinematic Universe

[Br!an]

I just watched Norsemen.

I find it really funny. If you like British dry comedy like Monty Python often does then you'll probably like this.

Also each episode is only about 30 minutes.

[Ricky]

Caught Malevolence last night. If you’re into character arcs or development, then this is not the movie for you. Is about a group of millennial fraudsters that pretend to be ghost hunters that prey on people that are grieving...until they get in over their heads.

Not the least bit memorable, but there are a couple scares and spine tingling moments. The main girl is excellent; she straight up carries every single frame of this and I hope she starts popping up elsewhere. She’d fit right in to the King Cinematic Universe

Thanks for the review. I watched the trailer the other night and put it on my to-watch list for Halloween. Disappointed to hear it's not big on character, but hoping for some good scares at least.

[Earl of Popkin]

Hold the Dark:

Uhh really don’t know what to say about this one. You have Pennywise’s older brother, Arnold/Bernard aka the best Felix Leiter, the perfect backdrop that is the Alaskan wilderness, and clearly a large budget. Yet all you will feel at the end is some combo of disappointment & confusion. I was really excited to see this one and I really shouldn’t have been. You will feel every minute of its two hour running time. Also they do that thing I hate where a complete stranger shows up to a town and within minutes the stranger is somehow telling the authorities what to do and cops that have worked together for 30 years suddenly abandon everything they’ve been taught to follow the new weird guy’s hunch. Oh, and here’s your evil character motivation: “I need to kill these people before they die”

On the plus side, Skarsgard is really good as usual, the main cop James Badge Dale would be a great young Alan Pangborn and now I wanna see a book of King novellas that take place in Alaska

[Still Servant]

Hold the Dark:

Uhh really don’t know what to say about this one. You have Pennywise’s older brother, Arnold/Bernard aka the best Felix Leiter, the perfect backdrop that is the Alaskan wilderness, and clearly a large budget. Yet all you will feel at the end is some combo of disappointment & confusion. I was really excited to see this one and I really shouldn’t have been. You will feel every minute of its two hour running time. Also they do that thing I hate where a complete stranger shows up to a town and within minutes the stranger is somehow telling the authorities what to do and cops that have worked together for 30 years suddenly abandon everything they’ve been taught to follow the new weird guy’s hunch. Oh, and here’s your evil character motivation: “I need to kill these people before they die”

On the plus side, Skarsgard is really good as usual, the main cop James Badge Dale would be a great young Alan Pangborn and now I wanna see a book of King novellas that take place in Alaska

I loved Hold the Dark. I've been anticipating this one for a few years now. Jeremy Saulnier is one of the best young filmmakers working today. Blue Ruin and Green Room are two of my favorite films of the decade.

Saulnier has come out and said that the film is bound to be polarizing. It's certainly not an easy watch, but it really left me thinking after, which I love. I have to say, I feel like I have a pretty good handle on what was going on. That doesn't make it any easier of a watch, and most people will end up hating it.

For example, most people I've seen didn't pick up on the fact that Skarsgard and Keough's characters were brother and sister and their child was a product of incest. Which, I think is a pretty important part of the film.

Either way, keep an eye on Saulnier.

[Earl of Popkin]

I loved Hold the Dark. I've been anticipating this one for a few years now. Jeremy Saulnier is one of the best young filmmakers working today. Blue Ruin and Green Room are two of my favorite films of the decade.

Saulnier has come out and said that the film is bound to be polarizing. It's certainly not an easy watch, but it really left me thinking after, which I love. I have to say, I feel like I have a pretty good handle on what was going on. That doesn't make it any easier of a watch, and most people will end up hating it.

For example, most people I've seen didn't pick up on the fact that Skarsgard and Keough's characters were brother and sister and their child was a product of incest. Which, I think is a pretty important part of the film.

Either way, keep an eye on Saulnier.

I def didn’t know the spoiler text (not even a clue actually); makes me empathize with her knowing that...but still disappointed overall. Will def keep an eye out for Saulnier though as there were a couple cool moments sprinkled throughout and he really did make you feel like Alaska was one of the main characters. Love when films/shows can do that with their settings

[Iwritecode]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu4GgQ1LWiI

[Brian861]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu4GgQ1LWiI

I watched the first season of this and was intrigued. How many of you think he really did it?

[Heather19]

I'm excited for season 2. After reading up more about the case and hearing about evidence that was left out of the documentary I'm leaning towards believing that he is guilty. The only thing I can't really wrap my brain around is why after getting released from jail for a crime you didn't commit, and on the verge of getting tons of money, why would you commit such a crime?

[Earl of Popkin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu4GgQ1LWiI

I watched the first season of this and was intrigued. How many of you think he really did it?

Tough to see how these two could be innocent at this point...but I’ve read enough King to know there’s always another explanation. To be blunt I think they’re both too dumb to realize the scope of what they did, sorta like Mice & Men type thing??? But F those crooked cops

What I don’t get about a season 2 is that they’re very public now and the media report on them when relevant. So what could be a suspenseful storyline at this point? Anyone that watched season 1 most likely knows exactly where those two are right now. I can’t think of an angle that would intrigue me enough to tune in...

[Heather19]

Yeah the cops in that town really messed up the case. If they stayed out of it like they should have then I don't think there would be any question as to guilt or innocence. I wish there were some repercussions for cops that mishandle investigations. Like here or in the cases of false confessions. I'm currently listening to a podcast that Mae recommended to me about the West Memphis Three, and those cops should have to face some sort of punishment for the way they handled that case and how they treated certain people.

[Earl of Popkin]

Yeah the cops in that town really messed up the case. If they stayed out of it like they should have then I don't think there would be any question as to guilt or innocence. I wish there were some repercussions for cops that mishandle investigations. Like here or in the cases of false confessions. I'm currently listening to a podcast that Mae recommended to me about the West Memphis Three, and those cops should have to face some sort of punishment for the way they handled that case and how they treated certain people.

Agreed...willful abuse of power that disguises itself as savior (crooked cops, perv priests, annie wilkes) is about as evil as it gets. I’m not a vengeful person but those types need to suffer. Publicly.

[Brian861]

I'm excited for season 2. After reading up more about the case and hearing about evidence that was left out of the documentary I'm leaning towards believing that he is guilty. The only thing I can't really wrap my brain around is why after getting released from jail for a crime you didn't commit, and on the verge of getting tons of money, why would you commit such a crime?

Could have been no doubt a crime of opportunity but I'm not sure if I were on the jury that I could find them guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. The doubt coming from how bad the investigation was handled.

These guys aren't the sharpest tools in the shed as to why they'd commit the murder.

[Ricky]

willful abuse of power that disguises itself as savior (crooked cops, perv priests, annie wilkes) is about as evil as it gets.

Oh man. :rofl:

[Br!an]

Yeah the cops in that town really messed up the case. If they stayed out of it like they should have then I don't think there would be any question as to guilt or innocence. I wish there were some repercussions for cops that mishandle investigations. Like here or in the cases of false confessions. I'm currently listening to a podcast that Mae recommended to me about the West Memphis Three, and those cops should have to face some sort of punishment for the way they handled that case and how they treated certain people.

Agreed...willful abuse of power that disguises itself as savior (crooked cops, perv priests, annie wilkes) is about as evil as it gets. I’m not a vengeful person but those types need to suffer. Publicly.

There is actually a specific crime for those who abuse their authority. The federal law is called Deprivation of Rights Under Color of Law. (Some states use Under Color Of Authority.)

TITLE 18, U.S.C., SECTION 242

Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, ... shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnaping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

[Heather19]

I don't think what they did would fall under that. They really should train cops more thoroughly about false confessions. And in the case of the West Memphis Three, prior to forcing a confession out of Jessie they interrogated an 8yr old. Went into extreme detail about the death of his friends and sexual acts that a young boy should not have to hear nor repeat. It's beyond disturbing. How can police interrogate such a young kid alone to begin with? There should be protection for minors, it shouldn't be something they have to ask for.

[mae]

For a lot of them it's about getting the case off the books by any means necessary, not about truth and justice.

[RichardX]

I watched the first episode of "Hill House." Have to admit that I was prepared to hate it, but it's interesting how they grafted a new story around the characters. So far, so good.

[Earl of Popkin]

I saw Apostle last night

It’s a bit long and I was starting to lose interest about 30 minutes in. Then the last hour of that movie went down.

Is basically about a brother from a rich family infiltrating an isolated religious cult that is holding his sister for ransom.

Holy Christ was it nuts. Dan Stevens (Legion) is incredible. If they ever reboot Dead Zone, this guy would be a perfect Johnny Smith imo. Him and Gareth Evans are definitely a remarkable team and they should totally be the next Burton/Depp 2.0.

The movie gets insanely dark; graphic and gory in parts and just flat out intense in others. They do a great job of giving you a little bit of everything. Wow what a ride

[Brian861]

I watched the first episode of "Hill House." Have to admit that I was prepared to hate it, but it's interesting how they grafted a new story around the characters. So far, so good.

Looking forward to binging this one as well.

[webstar1000]

Anyone else get through a couple of
The HHH episodes?


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[Mattrick]

Some good horror films on Netflix right now. I see they have The Host on there and I'll definitely be watching that one.

[Brian861]

Anyone else get through a couple of The HHH episodes?

I'm hoping to watch some today at some point.

[Heather19]

I only got about 15min in before I quit because it's nothing like the book, and I think was expecting at least somewhat of a resemblance. I'll have to go back and try again now knowing that it has nothing to do with the book because I've been hearing good things about it.

[mae]

I only got about 15min in before I quit because it's nothing like the book, and I think was expecting at least somewhat of a resemblance. I'll have to go back and try again now knowing that it has nothing to do with the book because I've been hearing good things about it.

Try "Hilda", Heather. I think you'll love it. It's definitely got (very light) Halloween vibes but it's also amazingly sweet and adorable, pure comfort watching. Been renewed for Season 2, too. So happy!

[Ricky]

I only got about 15min in before I quit because it's nothing like the book, and I think was expecting at least somewhat of a resemblance. I'll have to go back and try again now knowing that it has nothing to do with the book because I've been hearing good things about it.

I saw the trailer and was like, "What a minute..." Because you're right. It doesn't look anything like the book. I haven't started the series yet, but it looks good. The book was great on atmosphere, but the characters and scares just didn't do it for me so if they change things in that regard, I don't think I'll be too terribly disappointed.

[RichardX]

Anyone else get through a couple of
The HHH episodes?


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I'm through episode four and it is outstanding. Great acting. Creepy story. Interesting characters. Amazed at how good this turned out. It has almost nothing to do with the original book except they have cleverly used the original character names. There are elements of "The Shining" "Insidious" "Poltergeist" "Six Feet Under". The best horror show that I've seen in a long while.

[Still Servant]

I saw Apostle last night

It’s a bit long and I was starting to lose interest about 30 minutes in. Then the last hour of that movie went down.

Is basically about a brother from a rich family infiltrating an isolated religious cult that is holding his sister for ransom.

Holy Christ was it nuts. Dan Stevens (Legion) is incredible. If they ever reboot Dead Zone, this guy would be a perfect Johnny Smith imo. Him and Gareth Evans are definitely a remarkable team and they should totally be the next Burton/Depp 2.0.

The movie gets insanely dark; graphic and gory in parts and just flat out intense in others. They do a great job of giving you a little bit of everything. Wow what a ride

I have two young, up-and-coming directors that I love - Jeremy Saulnier (Blue Ruin, Green Room) and Gareth Evans (The Raid franchise).

For Saulnier, I followed the production of Hold the Dark very closely and was very much looking forward to its Netflix release. For Evans, I somehow lost track of his next effort. Little did I know until this week that he too was about to release his next film on Netflix. The main reason for this is that Saulnier is very active on Twitter and Evans left the social media platform behind as he was filming Apostle.

I can't wait to take a look at it.

[Heather19]

I only got about 15min in before I quit because it's nothing like the book, and I think was expecting at least somewhat of a resemblance. I'll have to go back and try again now knowing that it has nothing to do with the book because I've been hearing good things about it.

Try "Hilda", Heather. I think you'll love it. It's definitely got (very light) Halloween vibes but it's also amazingly sweet and adorable, pure comfort watching. Been renewed for Season 2, too. So happy!

I haven't heard of it, but I'll definitely look it up. Thanks!

[Still Servant]

Apostle

I'm with Popkin. The Apostle is some good shit. If you're into fucked up movies, give this one a shot.

I have a thing for movies that take place during that time period. Movies like The VVitch and shows like Alias Grace I just eat up.

The atmosphere alone makes this one worth the watch. There is some imagery and sequences that will stay with me for quite some time.

I recommend watching this one late at night. I woke up on the couch at like 11 and I was like fuck it, I want to watch a movie. I think watching it that late at night and being half groggy added to my enjoyment.

[webstar1000]

Apostle

I'm with Popkin. The Apostle is some good shit. If you're into fucked up movies, give this one a shot.

I have a thing for movies that take place during that time period. Movies like The VVitch and shows like Alias Grace I just eat up.

The atmosphere alone makes this one worth the watch. There is some imagery and sequences that will stay with me for quite some time.

I recommend watching this one late at night. I woke up on the couch at like 11 and I was like fuck it, I want to watch a movie. I think watching it that late at night and being half groggy added to my enjoyment.

Total disagreement here. That movie was trash. I was so excited to see it after it being recommended here.. then this weekend I tried it. What a silly outcome to a potentially good concept. 5/10


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[Earl of Popkin]

Apostle

I'm with Popkin. The Apostle is some good shit. If you're into fucked up movies, give this one a shot.

I have a thing for movies that take place during that time period. Movies like The VVitch and shows like Alias Grace I just eat up.

The atmosphere alone makes this one worth the watch. There is some imagery and sequences that will stay with me for quite some time.

I recommend watching this one late at night. I woke up on the couch at like 11 and I was like fuck it, I want to watch a movie. I think watching it that late at night and being half groggy added to my enjoyment.

Total disagreement here. That movie was trash. I was so excited to see it after it being recommended here.. then this weekend I tried it. What a silly outcome to a potentially good concept. 5/10


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To each his own I suppose but calling it trash seems a bit strong. Was it the ending? Anyway I was pretty let down by Hold the Dark on Netflix so maybe you’d dig that one since we are now sworn Netflix enemies

[webstar1000]

Apostle

I'm with Popkin. The Apostle is some good shit. If you're into fucked up movies, give this one a shot.

I have a thing for movies that take place during that time period. Movies like The VVitch and shows like Alias Grace I just eat up.

The atmosphere alone makes this one worth the watch. There is some imagery and sequences that will stay with me for quite some time.

I recommend watching this one late at night. I woke up on the couch at like 11 and I was like fuck it, I want to watch a movie. I think watching it that late at night and being half groggy added to my enjoyment.

Total disagreement here. That movie was trash. I was so excited to see it after it being recommended here.. then this weekend I tried it. What a silly outcome to a potentially good concept. 5/10


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To each his own I suppose but calling it trash seems a bit strong. Was it the ending? Anyway I was pretty let down by Hold the Dark on Netflix so maybe you’d dig that one since we are now sworn Netflix enemies

Lol I have to still watch Hold the Dark. I was not a fan at all of Apostle. In fact I almost hated it.... sorry:(

[Earl of Popkin]

Apostle

I'm with Popkin. The Apostle is some good shit. If you're into fucked up movies, give this one a shot.

I have a thing for movies that take place during that time period. Movies like The VVitch and shows like Alias Grace I just eat up.

The atmosphere alone makes this one worth the watch. There is some imagery and sequences that will stay with me for quite some time.

I recommend watching this one late at night. I woke up on the couch at like 11 and I was like fuck it, I want to watch a movie. I think watching it that late at night and being half groggy added to my enjoyment.

Total disagreement here. That movie was trash. I was so excited to see it after it being recommended here.. then this weekend I tried it. What a silly outcome to a potentially good concept. 5/10


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To each his own I suppose but calling it trash seems a bit strong. Was it the ending? Anyway I was pretty let down by Hold the Dark on Netflix so maybe you’d dig that one since we are now sworn Netflix enemies

Lol I have to still watch Hold the Dark. I was not a fan at all of Apostle. In fact I almost hated it.... sorry:(

I almost hated it during the first half, but once the prick dad fought that kid in the cabin, it was pretty much bonkers from then on for me.

Not Netflix related, but hate related...tried to watch Graveyard Shift and Firestarter this weekend and couldn’t get through either

Not hate related, but Netflix related...hot damn was HHH a great watch. Finished it last night and still thinking about it

[Brian861]

Not hate related, but Netflix related...hot damn was HHH a great watch. Finished it last night and still thinking about it

HHH is the shit! Finished watching it last night as well. Loved the soundtrack throughout.

[Heather19]

Has Bird Box been talked about in here yet? I had no idea it was going to be a Netflix film. Can't wait for it to be released.

https://people.com/movies/first-look-sandra-bullock-sarah-paulson-bird-box-netflix/

[webstar1000]

Has Bird Box been talked about in here yet? I had no idea it was going to be a Netflix film. Can't wait for it to be released.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/people.com/movies/first-look-sandra-bullock-sarah-paulson-bird-box-netflix/amp/

DAMMMMMMM!! I am PUMPED for this. I think this will be hard to film.. BUT if done right, could be amazing!

[Still Servant]

Apostle

I'm with Popkin. The Apostle is some good shit. If you're into fucked up movies, give this one a shot.

I have a thing for movies that take place during that time period. Movies like The VVitch and shows like Alias Grace I just eat up.

The atmosphere alone makes this one worth the watch. There is some imagery and sequences that will stay with me for quite some time.

I recommend watching this one late at night. I woke up on the couch at like 11 and I was like fuck it, I want to watch a movie. I think watching it that late at night and being half groggy added to my enjoyment.

Total disagreement here. That movie was trash. I was so excited to see it after it being recommended here.. then this weekend I tried it. What a silly outcome to a potentially good concept. 5/10


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To each his own I suppose but calling it trash seems a bit strong. Was it the ending? Anyway I was pretty let down by Hold the Dark on Netflix so maybe you’d dig that one since we are now sworn Netflix enemies

Lol I have to still watch Hold the Dark. I was not a fan at all of Apostle. In fact I almost hated it.... sorry:(

I loved Hold the Dark, but Web will NOT like Hold the Dark. I'm on the record right now.

What didn't you like about Apostle? I don't see how it's silly. They could have taken the easy way out and wrapped it up in a pretty bow like we've seen a million times. If that's what you're into. Cool.

[webstar1000]

Apostle

I'm with Popkin. The Apostle is some good shit. If you're into fucked up movies, give this one a shot.

I have a thing for movies that take place during that time period. Movies like The VVitch and shows like Alias Grace I just eat up.

The atmosphere alone makes this one worth the watch. There is some imagery and sequences that will stay with me for quite some time.

I recommend watching this one late at night. I woke up on the couch at like 11 and I was like fuck it, I want to watch a movie. I think watching it that late at night and being half groggy added to my enjoyment.

Total disagreement here. That movie was trash. I was so excited to see it after it being recommended here.. then this weekend I tried it. What a silly outcome to a potentially good concept. 5/10


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To each his own I suppose but calling it trash seems a bit strong. Was it the ending? Anyway I was pretty let down by Hold the Dark on Netflix so maybe you’d dig that one since we are now sworn Netflix enemies

Lol I have to still watch Hold the Dark. I was not a fan at all of Apostle. In fact I almost hated it.... sorry:(

I loved Hold the Dark, but Web will NOT like Hold the Dark. I'm on the record right now.

What didn't you like about Apostle? I don't see how it's silly. They could have taken the easy way out and wrapped it up in a pretty bow like we've seen a million times. If that's what you're into. Cool.

Oh no.... you don’t think I’ll like Hold eh? Damm was looking forward to that! Ummm, what didn’t I like? When it became apparent that the woman was a tree... and the blood was for her. Just silly to me. I loved the first bit until that... I thought that was a cop out. Maybe it’s cause I was expecting something else and that caught me off guard and in a bad way...??? Not sure but both me and my buddy rolled our eyes a LOT. Lol


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[Earl of Popkin]

anyone catch Hush or The Ritual? Both look really cool to me but Netflix tricks me constantly

SS? Web? Care to go on the record?

[Heather19]

Hush is really good. Haven't seen The Ritual yet, but my friend just recommended it to me last week. Hoping to watch it soon.

[Earl of Popkin]

Hush is really good. Haven't seen The Ritual yet, but my friend just recommended it to me last week. Hoping to watch it soon.

Then say no more (aka hush) I shall watch it tonite. Thx poe

[Ricky]

Adding to the Hush praise. One of my favorite movies I saw last year.

[Heather19]

And here's the trailer for Bird Box


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPWMBITCudM

[Still Servant]

anyone catch Hush or The Ritual? Both look really cool to me but Netflix tricks me constantly

SS? Web? Care to go on the record?

Actually, I just watched Hush last weekend. Matt was touting it so much around here, that I had to give it a shot. I really enjoyed it and thought it was one of the better home invasion films I've seen in recent years. Mike Flanagan is a pretty reliable director.

On a side note, I also learned that Flanagan is married to Kate Siegel, who played the main character in Hush and also co-wrote the film. She's been in a bunch of his films, but I had no idea they were married.

[Earl of Popkin]

anyone catch Hush or The Ritual? Both look really cool to me but Netflix tricks me constantly

SS? Web? Care to go on the record?

Actually, I just watched Hush last weekend. Matt was touting it so much around here, that I had to give it a shot. I really enjoyed it and thought it was one of the better home invasion films I've seen in recent years. Mike Flanagan is a pretty reliable director.

On a side note, I also learned that Flanagan is married to Kate Siegel, who played the main character in Hush and also co-wrote the film. She's been in a bunch of his films, but I had no idea they were married.

Caught Hush last night. Cool premise and a pretty fun watch. I like how the movie got right down to business in like the first 5 minutes. A couple eye rolling moments no doubt, but totally worth it. Plus a Hodges Trilogy Easter egg for the win.

Kate Siegel was good; thought she was good as one of the Haunted Hotties on the Hill House show too. Way to go mr Flanagan

[Joe315]

And here's the trailer for Bird Box


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPWMBITCudM

Looks good. Solid cast too

[RichardX]

"The Terrifier" is an excellent old school type of slasher movie. If you liked those 80s movies and don't mind a lot of graphic violence, it is worth a watch. Another clown that is not to be messed with.

[Earl of Popkin]

Caught The Ritual last night. Was checking my phone less than 30 minutes in. Sometimes I think we get spoiled by King; we just take it for granted that we’ll care about his characters and thus their particular demises. Holy hell did I not care about any of the characters in this movie except maybe the main guy. That being said, Norway and Sweden look like amazing places I need to visit.

[Iwritecode]

Just finished Season 1 of American Vandal. I really enjoyed it. At times, I could almost believe that it was a real documentary, despite the obviously juvenile subject matter.

I'll probably start watching season 2 tonight.

[Earl of Popkin]

Just finished Season 1 of American Vandal. I really enjoyed it. At times, I could almost believe that it was a real documentary, despite the obviously juvenile subject matter.

I'll probably start watching season 2 tonight.

Def not as good as the first season but worth the watch. Plus it has one of the all time greatest nicknames for a character ever imo

[Joe315]

Any one here watch Big Mouth?

[Ricky]

Caught The Ritual last night. Was checking my phone less than 30 minutes in. Sometimes I think we get spoiled by King; we just take it for granted that we’ll care about his characters and thus their particular demises. Holy hell did I not care about any of the characters in this movie except maybe the main guy. That being said, Norway and Sweden look like amazing places I need to visit.

I just read a bunch of people who raved about it, so this is interesting. I even moved it to the top of my to-watch list. :orely:

Was it at least suspenseful...or have any good qualities?

[Earl of Popkin]

Caught The Ritual last night. Was checking my phone less than 30 minutes in. Sometimes I think we get spoiled by King; we just take it for granted that we’ll care about his characters and thus their particular demises. Holy hell did I not care about any of the characters in this movie except maybe the main guy. That being said, Norway and Sweden look like amazing places I need to visit.

I just read a bunch of people who raved about it, so this is interesting. I even moved it to the top of my to-watch list. :orely:

Was it at least suspenseful...or have any good qualities?

Definitely good qualities; the setting is great, main dude is interesting enough to keep you watching but I wouldn’t call it suspenseful. A couple of decent moments throughout but it just kind of falls flat for me. Not memorable

Like using margarine instead of butter in a recipe. All the ingredients are there but it could be better

[Brian861]

Tad off topic because I can't find the thread or one doesn't exist, but I really enjoyed Homecoming on Amazon Prime. Didn't really care so much for the 2nd season of Lore.

[Still Servant]

Tad off topic because I can't find the thread or one doesn't exist, but I really enjoyed Homecoming on Amazon Prime. Didn't really care so much for the 2nd season of Lore.

An Amazon show discussion in the Netflix thread? Blasphemy!! I do want to watch that show, and many other Amazon shows, but I don't have Prime yet.

I think you're looking for the TV show thread in the Fedic Station. Either the General TV Discussion thread or the What are you watching right now thread.

http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?1308-General-Television-Discussion/page126

http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?10985-What-are-you-watching-right-now/page145

[Joe315]

Any one here watch Big Mouth?

No one else watches Big Mouth? You’re missing out.

[Brian861]

Tad off topic because I can't find the thread or one doesn't exist, but I really enjoyed Homecoming on Amazon Prime. Didn't really care so much for the 2nd season of Lore.

An Amazon show discussion in the Netflix thread? Blasphemy!! I do want to watch that show, and many other Amazon shows, but I don't have Prime yet.

I think you're looking for the TV show thread in the Fedic Station. Either the General TV Discussion thread or the What are you watching right now thread.

http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?1308-General-Television-Discussion/page126

http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?10985-What-are-you-watching-right-now/page145

Gotcha. Thanks!

[Iwritecode]

Just finished Season 1 of American Vandal. I really enjoyed it. At times, I could almost believe that it was a real documentary, despite the obviously juvenile subject matter.

I'll probably start watching season 2 tonight.

Def not as good as the first season but worth the watch. Plus it has one of the all time greatest nicknames for a character ever imo

I agree it didn't quite live up to the first season, but still pretty good. I did like the ending a little bit better. It's kinda fun how they keep coming up with new leads and clues every episode so it's nearly impossible to guess who really did it.

And yes, the nickname was great. :P

[Earl of Popkin]

Just finished Season 1 of American Vandal. I really enjoyed it. At times, I could almost believe that it was a real documentary, despite the obviously juvenile subject matter.

I'll probably start watching season 2 tonight.

Def not as good as the first season but worth the watch. Plus it has one of the all time greatest nicknames for a character ever imo

I agree it didn't quite live up to the first season, but still pretty good. I did like the ending a little bit better. It's kinda fun how they keep coming up with new leads and clues every episode so it's nearly impossible to guess who really did it.

And yes, the nickname was great. :P

Pretty sure Netflix cancelled this show; I definitely thought S2 was at least good enough to warrant a S3...especially since there are so few good comedies right now. Or at least let them go full meta and have them do a few bonus eps to investigate why they’re not getting a 3rd season

[Iwritecode]

Just finished Season 1 of American Vandal. I really enjoyed it. At times, I could almost believe that it was a real documentary, despite the obviously juvenile subject matter.

I'll probably start watching season 2 tonight.

Def not as good as the first season but worth the watch. Plus it has one of the all time greatest nicknames for a character ever imo

I agree it didn't quite live up to the first season, but still pretty good. I did like the ending a little bit better. It's kinda fun how they keep coming up with new leads and clues every episode so it's nearly impossible to guess who really did it.

And yes, the nickname was great. :P

Pretty sure Netflix cancelled this show; I definitely thought S2 was at least good enough to warrant a S3...especially since there are so few good comedies right now. Or at least let them go full meta and have them do a few bonus eps to investigate why they’re not getting a 3rd season

I read that they cancelled it, but producers intend to shop the program to other venues. Both seasons are at 98% on Rotten tomatoes so I have no idea why they cancelled it if it was so well received.

[Hunchback Jack]

Pretty sure Netflix cancelled this show; I definitely thought S2 was at least good enough to warrant a S3...especially since there are so few good comedies right now. Or at least let them go full meta and have them do a few bonus eps to investigate why they’re not getting a 3rd season

Netflix is cancelling shows it doesn't produce in order to promote their own content. So it may not have been a matter of not being popular.

HBJ

[mae]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axCBA3VD5dQ

[Earl of Popkin]

Pretty sure Netflix cancelled this show; I definitely thought S2 was at least good enough to warrant a S3...especially since there are so few good comedies right now. Or at least let them go full meta and have them do a few bonus eps to investigate why they’re not getting a 3rd season

Netflix is cancelling shows it doesn't produce in order to promote their own content. So it may not have been a matter of not being popular.

HBJ

You’re absolutely right and I think this is a terrible strategy. We’re clearly past the early adopter phase of converts from cords to streaming so I don’t see the competitive advantage of owning your content at this point. People converting now will prob want quality and quantity and could care less about proprietary. Best I can figure is they’re streamlining a bit before Disney takes a real swipe at their market share next year. Yada yada yada i want more Vandal

[Brian861]

Did Stranger Things Season 3 never come about? Or did I sleep through it?

[Earl of Popkin]

Did Stranger Things Season 3 never come about? Or did I sleep through it?

They just wrapped production - S3 airing 2019 I’m pretty sure. Or maybe it’s out and only you and me are in the upside down

[Brian861]

Did Stranger Things Season 3 never come about? Or did I sleep through it?

They just wrapped production - S3 airing 2019 I’m pretty sure. Or maybe it’s out and only you and me are in the upside down

Very well could be :orely:

[Br!an]

Did Stranger Things Season 3 never come about? Or did I sleep through it?

They just wrapped production - S3 airing 2019 I’m pretty sure. Or maybe it’s out and only you and me are in the upside down

Perhaps next summer. (http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/stranger-things/feature/a842022/stranger-things-season-3-netflix-date-cast-trailer-theories-plot/)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdMZgCTeFRM

[Brian861]

:wtf: Talk about a flashback.

[Earl of Popkin]

Daredevil cancelled. Hell’s Kitchen is no longer safe

[mae]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqRQ5Y6OYi4

[Ricky]

So accurate. :lol:

[Still Servant]

So accurate. :lol:

Yup! Pretty much. Just throwing money at everything. I truly don't know how they do it.

[WeDealInLead]

On an Excitement Level scale I'm a solid 11 for Bird Box.

[Brian861]

On an Excitement Level scale I'm a solid 11 for Bird Box.

Have never read the book but I'm looking forward to it as well. Bullock is a favorite of mine.

[Still Servant]

On an Excitement Level scale I'm a solid 11 for Bird Box.

Have never read the book but I'm looking forward to it as well. Bullock is a favorite of mine.

I'm looking forward to it as well. It's getting mixed early reviews though.

[Heather19]

I was really excited about it until I started hearing all this bad stuff about it. Now I'm a little worried but I'll still be watching it right away. I haven't read the book in years though, so maybe that will be a good thing.

[Still Servant]

We had this discussion in another thread, but I'm endlessly fascinated by Netflix and its structure. Netflix has been historically tight-lipped about their streaming analytics, except when it serves them. They recently revealed how well Bird Box has done. It made me start to wonder if Netflix is sometimes shooting themselves in the foot by not releasing their films in more theaters.

If Bird Box was in theaters, the argument could be made that it would have made Netflix millions of dollars. In 2019, possibly the biggest film Netflix has ever produced will be released and that is the Martin Scorsese film The Irishman. The film has a reported budget of 125 million bucks. It's still a mystery to me how Netflix will make back their money on a property like that without releasing it in a decent amount of theaters.

This post is not meant to bash Netflix and their streaming strategy. In fact, I think what Netflix is doing with their original films is incredibly important and will continue to be so as movie theaters and their audience continue to change. Without Netflix, films like Apostle, Hold the Dark, and this year's Oscar front runner, Roma would be almost impossible to see. Theaters are less and less likely to show films of that nature. As a platform to provide audiences with smaller, more artistic (sometimes odd) films, I think Netflix might just be a godsend. If I were them, I would seriously reconsider the amount of theaters certain films get shown in.

[Earl of Popkin]

I have zero hard data but have heard that the Distribution costs that theatres are being forced to pay recently for blockbusters has gotten to pretty obnoxious levels. Netflix can avoid a sizable chunk of those costs (for now), so there’s probably a fancy spreadsheet somewhere in their offices that says the opportunity cost of neglecting the big screen is about equal to the additional dist costs they’d incur by partnering with theatres. And also there’s probably a whole bunch of lawyers somewhere trying to figure out how to build a Netflix Theatre Cineplex that’s somehow exempt from previously mentioned obnoxious costs.

[Still Servant]

I have zero hard data but have heard that the Distribution costs that theatres are being forced to pay recently for blockbusters has gotten to pretty obnoxious levels. Netflix can avoid a sizable chunk of those costs (for now), so there’s probably a fancy spreadsheet somewhere in their offices that says the opportunity cost of neglecting the big screen is about equal to the additional dist costs they’d incur by partnering with theatres. And also there’s probably a whole bunch of lawyers somewhere trying to figure out how to build a Netflix Theatre Cineplex that’s somehow exempt from previously mentioned obnoxious costs.

I'm sure you're on the right track there.

I still think it's flawed, at least from my very basic assessment. How many people went out and subscribed to Netflix because they wanted to watch Bird Box? My guess is it's not many. The reason? Everyone I know already has Netflix. Some pay for it. Most are using someone else's subscription. Bird Box didn't have much of a budget, but for some of those films it seems reckless. Actually, what's even crazier is the money Netflix is shelling out to comedians for their specials. I don't know how they will make back the 40 mil they paid Chris Rock for his specials. I don't know one person that is going to subscribe to Netflix to watch a comedy special.

[Earl of Popkin]

I agree that it sure seems like they spend insane amounts of money. At some point they’ll hafta calm down. Most likely after Disney+ and a few other big boys hit their stride

The comedian thing is more about casting a net for talent that evolves into production deals. They know they’re gonna get saddled with some real dud specials along the way, but they will also get someone like Bill Burr who was a big comic but after he put his specials on Netflix he became huge. Then they let him make F is for Family and it of course is released by Netflix under most likely favorable terms on their behalf. Seinfeld, Chappelle, Rock. If any of them have a new show, it’s gonna be on Netflix. Hopefully the next gen of Comic Jedis are one of the many minnows they’re currently nurturing and the cycle repeats.

[Still Servant]

I agree that it sure seems like they spend insane amounts of money. At some point they’ll hafta calm down. Most likely after Disney+ and a few other big boys hit their stride

The comedian thing is more about casting a net for talent that evolves into production deals. They know they’re gonna get saddled with some real dud specials along the way, but they will also get someone like Bill Burr who was a big comic but after he put his specials on Netflix he became huge. Then they let him make F is for Family and it of course is released by Netflix under most likely favorable terms on their behalf. Seinfeld, Chappelle, Rock. If any of them have a new show, it’s gonna be on Netflix. Hopefully the next gen of Comic Jedis are one of the many minnows they’re currently nurturing and the cycle repeats.

That's a good point. It's kind of a good way for them to get in on the ground level of a lot of talent.

[webstar1000]

I’ll tell ya though.... some of the movies coming and tv shows are just unreal. I mean have you all seen the Polar trailer?!!! Better and better content. That’s what will make more subscribing paying people. I know at least 4 people personally that signed up just cause of the Bird Box hype.


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[Still Servant]

I’ll tell ya though.... some of the movies coming and tv shows are just unreal. I mean have you all seen the Polar trailer?!!! Better and better content. That’s what will make more subscribing paying people. I know at least 4 people personally that signed up just cause of the Bird Box hype.



Where are you finding people that still don't have Netflix? It's been years since I met someone who didn't have Netflix. It's also kind of sad that people are signing up for Bird Box. It's such an average film. I think a lot of people are going to wonder what the big deal is. People should be signing up for Roma if anything.

[webstar1000]

I’ll tell ya though.... some of the movies coming and tv shows are just unreal. I mean have you all seen the Polar trailer?!!! Better and better content. That’s what will make more subscribing paying people. I know at least 4 people personally that signed up just cause of the Bird Box hype.



Where are you finding people that still don't have Netflix? It's been years since I met someone who didn't have Netflix. It's also kind of sad that people are signing up for Bird Box. It's such an average film. I think a lot of people are going to wonder what the big deal is. People should be signing up for Roma if anything.

Bird Box is clearly not an average film man... that many views says it isn't. Sorry, I loved it.

[St. Troy]

It's funny, because I was very reluctant to join Netflix, and only finally caved when Blockbuster shut down (I rented DVDs by mail through Blockbuster and Netflix was the only possible substitute). I very much wanted to avoid streaming (as opposed to DVDs) because I didn't trust the technology (or my internet connection) and since I already knew how to operate DVDs (ha), I saw no reason to reinvent the wheel.

Now, as the years have gone by, Netflix has blown me (all of us) away with their original content. I don't want to have to subscribe to dozens of services (and will likely miss out on CBS All Access' The Stand adaptation because of this), but I can't imagine being without Netflix.

[Still Servant]

I’ll tell ya though.... some of the movies coming and tv shows are just unreal. I mean have you all seen the Polar trailer?!!! Better and better content. That’s what will make more subscribing paying people. I know at least 4 people personally that signed up just cause of the Bird Box hype.



Where are you finding people that still don't have Netflix? It's been years since I met someone who didn't have Netflix. It's also kind of sad that people are signing up for Bird Box. It's such an average film. I think a lot of people are going to wonder what the big deal is. People should be signing up for Roma if anything.

Bird Box is clearly not an average film man... that many views says it isn't. Sorry, I loved it.

:lol: A lot of views says it's been watched by a lot of people. It says nothing about its quality. Anybody who thinks it's better than something like A Quiet Place has to reconsider their taste in film.

Like I said, I enjoyed the film, but there's a lot of issues I had with it.


The biggest issue with the film and I'm not sure why people don't understand this, is the structure. By showing Sandy B and the kids in the boat at the beginning, you completely remove the suspense from the film. You know she lives. You know she and the kids make it out of the house alive. Therefore, she and the children are never in peril, thus removing much of the suspense from the film.
Wind isn't scary. I need to see what you're seeing in order to truly be terrified. Otherwise, I'm going to use my imagination and I see a pink bunny wearing overalls.
The rules aren't clear. Why can't it penetrate walls? Why can't it get into cars? Why can they infiltrate your mind and imitate voices? Do they even have physical form, or are people just imagining them being there?
So, crazy people aren't made suicidal, they just become huge fanboys of these things? Who defines crazy? Where do you draw the line? Is it just mental patients and serial killers? What about people who wear socks with sandals? That's some crazy shit

[webstar1000]

I’ll tell ya though.... some of the movies coming and tv shows are just unreal. I mean have you all seen the Polar trailer?!!! Better and better content. That’s what will make more subscribing paying people. I know at least 4 people personally that signed up just cause of the Bird Box hype.



Where are you finding people that still don't have Netflix? It's been years since I met someone who didn't have Netflix. It's also kind of sad that people are signing up for Bird Box. It's such an average film. I think a lot of people are going to wonder what the big deal is. People should be signing up for Roma if anything.

Bird Box is clearly not an average film man... that many views says it isn't. Sorry, I loved it.

:lol: A lot of views says it's been watched by a lot of people. It says nothing about its quality. Anybody who thinks it's better than something like A Quiet Place has to reconsider their taste in film.

Like I said, I enjoyed the film, but there's a lot of issues I had with it.


The biggest issue with the film and I'm not sure why people don't understand this, is the structure. By showing Sandy B and the kids in the boat at the beginning, you completely remove the suspense from the film. You know she lives. You know she and the kids make it out of the house alive. Therefore, she and the children are never in peril, thus removing much of the suspense from the film.
Wind isn't scary. I need to see what you're seeing in order to truly be terrified. Otherwise, I'm going to use my imagination and I see a pink bunny wearing overalls.
The rules aren't clear. Why can't it penetrate walls? Why can't it get into cars? Why can they infiltrate your mind and imitate voices? Do they even have physical form, or are people just imagining them being there?
So, crazy people aren't made suicidal, they just become huge fanboys of these things? Who defines crazy? Where do you draw the line? Is it just mental patients and serial killers? What about people who wear socks with sandals? That's some crazy shit


Yes watched by a lot of people. Why? Because people loved it. Why is that? Cause it was GOOD. As for your issues? I liked the way it was down other than the woods part at the end. The whispers and shit was silly.... the rest you mention? I liked that we don't know. Same as NOT seeing the monsters. The unknown sometimes is so much better in a movie then knowing.

Side note: Have you seen the trailer for POLAR?

[WeDealInLead]

Popularity does not equal quality.

I do 100% agree about not knowing being better sometimes. In this regard, the movie stayed true to the book. That's the part the movie got right, that uneasy feeling the apparition or whatever could be sitting on your shoulder and you'd never know is pretty neat. Closed places being safe probably should've been explained a little. Or why the mentally unstable were spared. The thing was clearly intelligent and in theory, that should've made the movie menacing AF...which brings me to why it wasn't: flashbacks. I'm not opposed to them in general, but this was a major misstep which robbed the movie of that tension the book had. I mean, if you know someone is going to make it, you don't tend to root for them as much... they'll be fine, what's the point? That's why I was actually hoping there'd be a directors cut of The Martian where Mr. Potato gets killed in most gruesome ways.

Anyway, I wanted to like it a lot more than I did but it just didn't live up to the hype.

[Heather19]

I agree with them not showing the "monsters" or whatever it is that's out there. I think it's much better to use your imagination, because if they were to show something it most likely wouldn't convey what you could create in your mind. Think about Blair Witch. That movie was very successful and you never once saw the Blair Witch. However, I do agree that they could have conveyed it better in the film. I didn't like the whispering. It's been awhile since I read the book, so can someone refresh my memory. I don't remember anything of the sort. Of whispers trying to get to the people in the book? I remember it as being strictly seeing whatever this thing is. So being outside wasn't as much of an issue. Yes, you couldn't see, but there wasn't really this threat of being hypnotized so to say. Weren't they always going outside to get fresh water and everything from the well?

As for the crazy people not being susceptible, I just took it that they're already crazy so this "thing" doesn't really have any effect on them since they're already crazy. Since in essence it makes people go crazy and loose their mind.

And lastly I really do wish they had followed the ending to the book. It was so much better than the ending they chose for the movie. Overall I enjoyed it. Will I watch it again, maybe, maybe not. But if do it won't be anytime soon.

[Still Servant]

Yes watched by a lot of people. Why? Because people loved it. Why is that? Cause it was GOOD. As for your issues? I liked the way it was down other than the woods part at the end. The whispers and shit was silly.... the rest you mention? I liked that we don't know. Same as NOT seeing the monsters. The unknown sometimes is so much better in a movie then knowing.

Side note: Have you seen the trailer for POLAR?

Come on, man. I'm not trying to be a dick here. A lot of people watching it isn't only because people think it's great. There's a curiosity factor. Word of mouth starts happening and people need to see it for themselves. I'm not saying it's a terrible film by any means, I just don't think it's deserving of all this praise.

I too agree that we as viewers shouldn't know everything. The unknown can be scary, although I think that works better in the written form than in visual form. There are also some things that need to be explained or at least have a valid reason for, or it pulls the viewer out of the film and gets them questioning things. I found myself doing that a lot. I was asking myself why can these things stomp on your car, but they can't just remove your blindfold? Things like that.

[webstar1000]

Yes watched by a lot of people. Why? Because people loved it. Why is that? Cause it was GOOD. As for your issues? I liked the way it was down other than the woods part at the end. The whispers and shit was silly.... the rest you mention? I liked that we don't know. Same as NOT seeing the monsters. The unknown sometimes is so much better in a movie then knowing.

Side note: Have you seen the trailer for POLAR?

Come on, man. I'm not trying to be a dick here. A lot of people watching it isn't only because people think it's great. There's a curiosity factor. Word of mouth starts happening and people need to see it for themselves. I'm not saying it's a terrible film by any means, I just don't think it's deserving of all this praise.

I too agree that we as viewers shouldn't know everything. The unknown can be scary, although I think that works better in the written form than in visual form. There are also some things that need to be explained or at least have a valid reason for, or it pulls the viewer out of the film and gets them questioning things. I found myself doing that a lot. I was asking myself why can these things stomp on your car, but they can't just remove your blindfold? Things like that.

Come on man back.... just cause you didn’t love the movie or think it was great... doesn’t mean it wasn’t.

[Br!an]

It seems that critics don't like the movie, but it is getting a lot of views.

I enjoyed it. I certainly didn't love it. I'd put it in the worth watching category.

I feel I need to read the book to know what the fuck is going on though.

[Brian861]

I feel I need to read the book to know what the fuck is going on though.

I'm definitely in this camp.

[Still Servant]

Yes watched by a lot of people. Why? Because people loved it. Why is that? Cause it was GOOD. As for your issues? I liked the way it was down other than the woods part at the end. The whispers and shit was silly.... the rest you mention? I liked that we don't know. Same as NOT seeing the monsters. The unknown sometimes is so much better in a movie then knowing.

Side note: Have you seen the trailer for POLAR?

Come on, man. I'm not trying to be a dick here. A lot of people watching it isn't only because people think it's great. There's a curiosity factor. Word of mouth starts happening and people need to see it for themselves. I'm not saying it's a terrible film by any means, I just don't think it's deserving of all this praise.

I too agree that we as viewers shouldn't know everything. The unknown can be scary, although I think that works better in the written form than in visual form. There are also some things that need to be explained or at least have a valid reason for, or it pulls the viewer out of the film and gets them questioning things. I found myself doing that a lot. I was asking myself why can these things stomp on your car, but they can't just remove your blindfold? Things like that.

Come on man back.... just cause you didn’t love the movie or think it was great... doesn’t mean it wasn’t.

I never said that. That hasn't been my point at all. I'm debunking your flawed theory that because a lot of people watch something, automatically makes it great. So you're saying The Big Bang Theory is the greatest sitcom in the history of TV? You're saying Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom is better than Mission: Impossible - Fallout?

[Still Servant]

It seems that critics don't like the movie, but it is getting a lot of views.

I enjoyed it. I certainly didn't love it. I'd put it in the worth watching category.

I feel I need to read the book to know what the fuck is going on though.

Critics as a whole have actually enjoyed the film more than audiences. 64% fresh rating for critics and 62% for audiences. The people who are making Bid Box out to be this massive hit with audiences are just plain wrong. A film like this should have a way higher audience rating.

[Earl of Popkin]

I wonder if there’s some sort of Meme quotient that gets factored into impact/viewership/reach for films now. How many addl views or subs will be from someone that discovered the film via a bird box meme. Or because they saw a bird box challenge in their feed - whatever that is. This of course leads to When will we start seeing memes released before the movie comes out as part of some grassroots marketing campaign. Will studios at some point spend more on memes than commercials?

And of course back to SS’s original Q...how the hell does this kind of buzz pay the bills??

[Still Servant]

I wonder if there’s some sort of Meme quotient that gets factored into impact/viewership/reach for films now. How many addl views or subs will be from someone that discovered the film via a bird box meme. Or because they saw a bird box challenge in their feed - whatever that is. This of course leads to When will we start seeing memes released before the movie comes out as part of some grassroots marketing campaign. Will studios at some point spend more on memes than commercials?

And of course back to SS’s original Q...how the hell does this kind of buzz pay the bills??

You might be on to something. I have to think that a lot of the people that ended up watching Bird Box is because of all the social media exposure it was getting. I think the memes are audience generated, but I could see more studios generating that content as advertising now. Of course, we probably won't be able to tell the difference. You might have just invented a new marketing strategy.

[webstar1000]

THIS video here totally explains how Netflix is making money.... or not.

http://collider.com/netflix-price-increase-explained/#images

[Heather19]

Just read an article that Netflix prices are increasing :(

As for Bird Box, I know 5 people in real life that have seen it (I'm sure its probably more, but these are ones that I've talked to about it). 2 thought it was ok, but we're a bit confused by some things. And 3 didn't care for it at all...

[Still Servant]

THIS video here totally explains how Netflix is making money.... or not.

http://collider.com/netflix-price-increase-explained/#images

Yup! It makes sense that they will continue to raise prices. They have to pay for these properties.

[webstar1000]

THIS video here totally explains how Netflix is making money.... or not.

http://collider.com/netflix-price-increase-explained/#images

Yup! It makes sense that they will continue to raise prices. They have to pay for these properties.

I like how they spread the money out though. Our company does that too. One day they can back off new programming and start making mad money. 2022 they expect to start banking cash. Brilliant.


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[Ricky]

Never happy about prices of anything going up, but for my DVD plan, it's only a dollar increase for unlimited rentals in a month. For the entertainment value and thousands of options that streaming just doesn't offer, I still feel like it's a good deal.

[Still Servant]

Never happy about prices of anything going up, but for my DVD plan, it's only a dollar increase for unlimited rentals in a month. For the entertainment value and thousands of options that streaming just doesn't offer, I still feel like it's a good deal.

Enjoy the DVD plan while you can, they are phasing it out as we speak. DVDs don't factor into the future plan for Netflix. Licensing fees are expensive, as is physical media and postage. Their plan is to have all original content in about 10 years.

[Heather19]

:o Take that back Mike! I love my dvd plan as well. How else will you be able to see whatever you want. Their streaming selection is so limited compared to what you can rent.

[Ricky]

I haven't heard they're phasing it out. I'm sure their DVD subs. don't compare to their streaming, but I'd be willing to bet a chunk of their business still comes from DVDs. Like old people...and me and Heather. :lol:

[Earl of Popkin]

Nothing confirmed, but I believe going discless was mentioned during an investor’s conference call in the last year or so. Due to being tethered to GameFly, Netflix still caters to gaming trends...with Microsoft supposedly releasing a discless digital only console amongst their next generation launch, I’m guessing Netflix will execute Order 66 on their physical disc arm if Microsoft has a successful launch.

[Ricky]

Was reading up on the DVD plan stuff last night and they still have 3+ million subs. for the DVD plan. Compared to 40+ million for streaming, it's a big gap, but because the DVD plan was what enabled them to finance the original all streaming content, they're in no hurry to get rid of it. Netflix bigwig says he can see it going at least another 5 years. So not going away any time soon, but I don't like that they might let it fall away after that.

[Heather19]

Well that sucks. I hope it's just talk. It's be a shame for them to ever let that go. It's what made them who they are now. For all of you that don't do the DVD version how on earth do you watch a movie that is not streaming, and not a new release? There's so many movies I want to watch that aren't streaming anywhere or available at Redbox.

[webstar1000]

Punisher this Friday... I cannot freakin wait.

[Br!an]

"In the third quarter of 2018, Netflix had over 137 million streaming subscribers worldwide. Of these subscribers, 58.46 million were from the United States. As the popularity of Netflix's streaming service has increased, the company has seen its DVD section decline. In 2017, there were 3.38 million subscribers to Netflix's DVD rental service in the United States, a decline from 11.17 million in 2011."

www.statista.com/quarterly-number-of-netflix-streaming-subscribers-worldwide/ (https://www.statista.com/statistics/250934/quarterly-number-of-netflix-streaming-subscribers-worldwide/)

[Iwritecode]

Well that sucks. I hope it's just talk. It's be a shame for them to ever let that go. It's what made them who they are now. For all of you that don't do the DVD version how on earth do you watch a movie that is not streaming, and not a new release? There's so many movies I want to watch that aren't streaming anywhere or available at Redbox.

We still have an actual video rental store about a mile from my house. They don't have every movie but most of the old movies we've wanted to watch we've been able to find there. At least the few times a year that we go. :shrug:

One time a few years back we went on a kick of watching a lot of the old 80's horror movies. Jason, Freddy and all the Saw movies. They had them all. :biggrin:

[Earl of Popkin]

Well that sucks. I hope it's just talk. It's be a shame for them to ever let that go. It's what made them who they are now. For all of you that don't do the DVD version how on earth do you watch a movie that is not streaming, and not a new release? There's so many movies I want to watch that aren't streaming anywhere or available at Redbox.

I think the disruption that Disney+ is going to cause will force cos like Netflix to offer a solution to your problem (iTunes rentals, etc) or at least open the door for new companies (most likely existing studios) to offer their own exclusive streaming.

“For just 2.99/month, get access to all the new Avatars online a month before they’re released on iTunes, Netflix, etc. as a bonus you’ll get a free 4K copy of Terminator 6 and a download code to an iBooks compatible daily journal that James Cameron kept while filming Avatar 4”

[Ricky]

For all of you that don't do the DVD version how on earth do you watch a movie that is not streaming, and not a new release? There's so many movies I want to watch that aren't streaming anywhere or available at Redbox.

Exactly! Redbox is great, easy, and cheap, but unless it's a new release, I get all mine from the DVD plan. And I think the majority of my queue are movies that are not and never will be available on streaming or Redbox.


We still have an actual video rental store about a mile from my house. They don't have every movie but most of the old movies we've wanted to watch we've been able to find there. At least the few times a year that we go. :shrug:

One time a few years back we went on a kick of watching a lot of the old 80's horror movies. Jason, Freddy and all the Saw movies. They had them all. :biggrin:

I miss Blockbuster. I mean, it's not nearly as convenient now with streaming, etc., but I like the thought if it being there if I ever wanted to go. Plus, it was just nice to walk around and browse movies like you browse books at a bookstore. It was part of the experience. Plus, getting to talk with people and get recommendations.

[Heather19]

I miss video rental stores so much. Like you said, it was fun just going in and walking around and browsing all the movies.

My fear is everyone is going to have their own streaming site and if you want to see something you'll have to join 20 different sites. I currently have Netflix and Hulu, and no desire to add anything more to it. That's already enough money, especially if they're increasing their prices.

[webstar1000]

I miss video rental stores so much. Like you said, it was fun just going in and walking around and browsing all the movies.

My fear is everyone is going to have their own streaming site and if you want to see something you'll have to join 20 different sites. I currently have Netflix and Hulu, and no desire to add anything more to it. That's already enough money, especially if they're increasing their prices.

SO DO I. That was how I fell in love with movies. Touching the boxes, seeing the artwork, the mini story of the film on the back. The excitement of the staff finding a copy in the drop box after the other 25 were rented! Picking out my chips and candy for the snacks. I just loved everything about it. Millennials ruined that. LOL In all seriousness, I miss that. I miss every part of it....

[Earl of Popkin]

I miss video rental stores so much. Like you said, it was fun just going in and walking around and browsing all the movies.

My fear is everyone is going to have their own streaming site and if you want to see something you'll have to join 20 different sites. I currently have Netflix and Hulu, and no desire to add anything more to it. That's already enough money, especially if they're increasing their prices.

SO DO I. That was how I fell in love with movies. Touching the boxes, seeing the artwork, the mini story of the film on the back. The excitement of the staff finding a copy in the drop box after the other 25 were rented! Picking out my chips and candy for the snacks. I just loved everything about it. Millennials ruined that. LOL In all seriousness, I miss that. I miss every part of it....

Yeah but there’s prob apps available that can recreate all of that experience for you with half the authenticity and twice the expense!!

[Heather19]

Like this :lol:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOyWUHcK06E

[Ricky]

My fear is everyone is going to have their own streaming site and if you want to see something you'll have to join 20 different sites. I currently have Netflix and Hulu, and no desire to add anything more to it. That's already enough money, especially if they're increasing their prices.

Yeah, I'm with you. And I just read that NBC is getting ready to launch their own streaming service, but if you already have a cable provider, it'll be free.


Picking out my chips and candy for the snacks. I just loved everything about it. Millennials ruined that. LOL In all seriousness, I miss that. I miss every part of it....

I'm a millennial and think that millennials ruin most good things. :lol:

[Still Servant]

:o Take that back Mike! I love my dvd plan as well. How else will you be able to see whatever you want. Their streaming selection is so limited compared to what you can rent.

I'm sorry, but it's true and just kind of makes sense. https://www.slashfilm.com/netflix-dvds/

I held on to it for as long as I could, especially since you originally were the one to send me the free trial, which I thought was so nice, but DVDs sat on my table for months collecting dust.

I prefer Redbox anyway.

[Still Servant]

I miss video rental stores so much. Like you said, it was fun just going in and walking around and browsing all the movies.

My fear is everyone is going to have their own streaming site and if you want to see something you'll have to join 20 different sites. I currently have Netflix and Hulu, and no desire to add anything more to it. That's already enough money, especially if they're increasing their prices.

SO DO I. That was how I fell in love with movies. Touching the boxes, seeing the artwork, the mini story of the film on the back. The excitement of the staff finding a copy in the drop box after the other 25 were rented! Picking out my chips and candy for the snacks. I just loved everything about it. Millennials ruined that. LOL In all seriousness, I miss that. I miss every part of it....

I know I've mentioned it before, but my parents owned a movie store in the 80's, so I grew up around movies. It's where my passion for film comes from. I used to love stocking the shelves and looking at all the box art.

I will say that I have no sympathy for Blockbuster. They killed the little guy and it's kind of poetic that they got killed by something bigger and better.

Anything obscure that is new that I can't find on Redbox, I rent on Google Play. They have a lot of deals and I usually have a gift card or something. Anything older I usually buy on laserdisc for 2 bucks. That's how I watched stuff like Gaslight, It Happened One Night and Bringing Up Baby last year.

[fernandito]

:o Take that back Mike! I love my dvd plan as well. How else will you be able to see whatever you want. Their streaming selection is so limited compared to what you can rent.

Their DVD selection is so superior to their online selection it's not even funny. So many obscure/foreign movies I would never have gotten the chance to see if it wasn't for their DVD plan.

[Heather19]

:o Take that back Mike! I love my dvd plan as well. How else will you be able to see whatever you want. Their streaming selection is so limited compared to what you can rent.

Their DVD selection is so superior to their online selection it's not even funny. So many obscure/foreign movies I would never have gotten the chance to see if it wasn't for their DVD plan.

Yes! I don't know where I'll be able to find certain movies that I want to watch unless I want to go buy every single dvd. And that would add up pretty quickly. There's only been a small handful of films they haven't had that I've wanted to watch. Hopefully there's enough of us to keep it going. Or perhaps some other company will take it over if Netflix ever does decide to do away with it.

[WeDealInLead]

Just watched two 2019 Netflix movies and am three episodes deep into S2 of The Punisher. Don't really care how they get their financing, Netflix is the best deal going, period.

I'd be okay with paying a little more if that meant their content would remain quality.

[Still Servant]

Just watched two 2019 Netflix movies and am three episodes deep into S2 of The Punisher. Don't really care how they get their financing, Netflix is the best deal going, period.

I'd be okay with paying a little more if that meant their content would remain quality.

Agreed. I've already said how much I appreciate Netflix just for the fact that we are getting films now on there that we can't find anywhere else. Roma is poised to win the Best Picture Oscar and it's a film you would never find in theaters. I know people had issues with films like Apostle and Hold the Dark, but they are both unique films that we just don't see at our theaters anymore.

My main issue is that I'm worried that their current business model isn't sustainable, regardless of upping the subscription fee a few bucks. Truthfully, I believe we will see ads soon, which will piss a lot of people off. Netflix is already conditioning users for ads by including trailers for some of the original content after watching a certain number of episodes in a row.

[WeDealInLead]

I'm thinking at least some of the money comes from product placement. I saw Coke and Mercedes in the Punisher S3. It was obvious but not detrimental to the story.

[Merlin1958]

So, this one looks very promising............



http://www.aintitcool.com/node/81623

[Brian861]

So, this one looks very promising............



http://www.aintitcool.com/node/81623

Agreed!

[Still Servant]

So, this one looks very promising............



http://www.aintitcool.com/node/81623

Agreed!

I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade here, but I should note that Triple Frontier has been in development off and on since 2010. I love the cast and J.C. Chandor's A Most Violent Year is one of my favorite films of the decade, but I'm a little apprehensive about this one.

[Joe315]

Russian Doll is pretty solid. Binged it Friday.

[Earl of Popkin]

Hey StillServant, this rich guy at FX addresses a few of the things we’ve wondered about Netflix transparency and their sustainability. He also mentions how Netflix has no legacy shows of their own...which I agree with. But he doesn’t mention that they thought they had one - it just happened to Star the ever so charming mr spacey

https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/02/04/netflix-ratings-40-million-sex-education-you-stranger-things?abthid=5c58a89759d4788579000f4a

[Still Servant]

Hey StillServant, this rich guy at FX addresses a few of the things we’ve wondered about Netflix transparency and their sustainability. He also mentions how Netflix has no legacy shows of their own...which I agree with. But he doesn’t mention that they thought they had one - it just happened to Star the ever so charming mr spacey

https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/02/04/netflix-ratings-40-million-sex-education-you-stranger-things?abthid=5c58a89759d4788579000f4a

Very interesting! Thank you for sharing. That certainly shines some light on Netflix and their "ratings". I had a feeling they were playing fast and loose with their stats when it comes to their ratings. Hopefully, they will start being a little more transparent with their findings.

[Earl of Popkin]

Hey StillServant, this rich guy at FX addresses a few of the things we’ve wondered about Netflix transparency and their sustainability. He also mentions how Netflix has no legacy shows of their own...which I agree with. But he doesn’t mention that they thought they had one - it just happened to Star the ever so charming mr spacey

https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/02/04/netflix-ratings-40-million-sex-education-you-stranger-things?abthid=5c58a89759d4788579000f4a

Very interesting! Thank you for sharing. That certainly shines some light on Netflix and their "ratings". I had a feeling they were playing fast and loose with their stats when it comes to their ratings. Hopefully, they will start being a little more transparent with their findings.

Netflix logic:
Me, to a cute girl named Rachel: “wanna go out some time?”
Rachel: “no thank you”
Me, later that night to my friends: “so I ran into my ex Rachel earlier...”

[Still Servant]

Hey StillServant, this rich guy at FX addresses a few of the things we’ve wondered about Netflix transparency and their sustainability. He also mentions how Netflix has no legacy shows of their own...which I agree with. But he doesn’t mention that they thought they had one - it just happened to Star the ever so charming mr spacey

https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/02/04/netflix-ratings-40-million-sex-education-you-stranger-things?abthid=5c58a89759d4788579000f4a

Very interesting! Thank you for sharing. That certainly shines some light on Netflix and their "ratings". I had a feeling they were playing fast and loose with their stats when it comes to their ratings. Hopefully, they will start being a little more transparent with their findings.

Netflix logic:
Me, to a cute girl named Rachel: “wanna go out some time?”
Rachel: “no thank you”
Me, later that night to my friends: “so I ran into my ex Rachel earlier...”

That's literally the perfect analogy for their strategy. Well done!

[Earl of Popkin]

Man I am straight up struggling to get thru S2 of Punisher. I love the guy playing Frank, and the three women in his orbit this season are all fantastic...but what am I supposed to care about. Just seems like one cliched conversation after another and Jigsaw might officially be the shittiest villain the MCU has given us. I know Karen Page is gonna show up bc of the episode screen caps so I’m not stopping, but damn what a forgettable stakeless journey it’s been so far

Edit - just watched eps 10 & 11. Sweet Christmas they were good shit. Crisis averted

[Earl of Popkin]

Wait I forgot about Diamondback from LCS1 - he’s def the worst villain

[Iwritecode]

Just finished up watching Making a Murderer pt 2. WOW.

I can't believe there are still people out there that think he's guilty. His new lawyer has completely shredded every piece of evidence they used to convict him.

[Brian861]

Just finished up watching Making a Murderer pt 2. WOW.

I can't believe there are still people out there that think he's guilty. His new lawyer has completely shredded every piece of evidence they used to convict him.

I felt sorry for the kid.

[Iwritecode]

Just finished up watching Making a Murderer pt 2. WOW.

I can't believe there are still people out there that think he's guilty. His new lawyer has completely shredded every piece of evidence they used to convict him.

I felt sorry for the kid.

Same. It's unbelievable how hard they are fighting to say that his totally coerced confession wasn't coerced. Probably because they know that if one gets out, the other one is getting out too.

I'm trying to figure out why in the world his mom signed off on the police talking to him without her being there. Unless she didn't know what she was signing at the time.

[fernandito]

All of the Narcos seasons are really well done, but man I can only watch 1 or 2 eps a day max. There is just so much deception and murder, shit's draining lol.

[Brian861]

Just finished up watching Making a Murderer pt 2. WOW.

I can't believe there are still people out there that think he's guilty. His new lawyer has completely shredded every piece of evidence they used to convict him.

I felt sorry for the kid.

Same. It's unbelievable how hard they are fighting to say that his totally coerced confession wasn't coerced. Probably because they know that if one gets out, the other one is getting out too.

I'm trying to figure out why in the world his mom signed off on the police talking to him without her being there. Unless she didn't know what she was signing at the time.

They aren't the brightest people. I suspect her husband and other son are involved somehow.

[Iwritecode]

Just finished up watching Making a Murderer pt 2. WOW.

I can't believe there are still people out there that think he's guilty. His new lawyer has completely shredded every piece of evidence they used to convict him.

I felt sorry for the kid.

Same. It's unbelievable how hard they are fighting to say that his totally coerced confession wasn't coerced. Probably because they know that if one gets out, the other one is getting out too.

I'm trying to figure out why in the world his mom signed off on the police talking to him without her being there. Unless she didn't know what she was signing at the time.

They aren't the brightest people. I suspect her husband and other son are involved somehow.

That's possible but the stories from everyone have been so all over the place that it's difficult to know who to believe anymore. I'm suspicious of the ex-boyfriend who moved into her house almost immediately after she was killed and was found to be in possession of a day planner that was with her IN HER CAR the day she was killed. They know this because they have the phone call where she told another person what appointment she was writing down on it before she went to the Avery's. That appointment was written in her planner in her hand-writing. Somehow nobody ever questioned this.

I've also been listening to the multiple Brenden Dassey interviews. Apparently the one where he finally "confessed" was like the 3rd or 4th time they talked to him. Also, his story has been pretty consistent at the beginning of all of them. He got off the bus, went inside, played his Playstation 2 for a couple of hours, then helped Steve go around on the golf cart to clean up some things. Never saw Teresa or her car at all. That's not what the "official" story ended up being though.

Although how they managed to piece together a coherent story from all his ramblings is beyond me. He said they tied her up to Steve's bed, raped her, cut her throat, stabbed her, then took her into the garage, shot her 5-10 times, put her in the back of her car, then took her out to the burn pile. Yet no blood was found in his trailer or on his garage floor. I relatively small amount was found in the back of her car. :rolleyes3:

Also the bones found in his burnpit were never photographed or documented. Those bones could literally have been found anywhere.

I also read an interesting thing that in the beginning when they first started interviewing everyone, nobody mentioned a fire. That story evolved as time went on. Somebody planted the idea that there was a fire that night and suddenly months/years later people "remember" seeing it. Steven has been adamant from the beginning that he hadn't had a fire for a couple of weeks prior to her being killed.

[Brian861]

I forgot about the ex-boyfriend. We'll probably never know what really happened.

[Still Servant]

Mae, I know it must have broken your heart when you heard the news that Netflix was cancelling One Day at a Time. I was surprised.

[mae]

Mae, I know it must have broken your heart when you heard the news that Netflix was cancelling One Day at a Time. I was surprised.

It really was upsetting. It’s such a special show and I fell in love with the characters and their relationships. I wanted to see that grow and evolve. It was one of the few shows that I would binge right away as soon as the new seasons dropped.

[Still Servant]

Mae, I know it must have broken your heart when you heard the news that Netflix was cancelling One Day at a Time. I was surprised.

It really was upsetting. It’s such a special show and I fell in love with the characters and their relationships. I wanted to see that grow and evolve. It was one of the few shows that I would binge right away as soon as the new seasons dropped.

I think the cancelation of One Day at a Time might bring to light some larger concerns with Netflix and their handling of their shows.

For decades, when a TV network cancels a show, they can usually point to poor ratings as the culprit. For Netflix, they are notoriously veiled with their ratings and what people are watching. They cancel the show, put out a press release that says "not enough people watched" and everyone moves on with their lives.

I honestly think the larger worry is that once a show gets into its third and fourth seasons and some of the actors start coming up for new contracts, Netflix takes a hard look and if the return on investment doesn't match the mystery number of viewers, it gets the axe.

I think we are going to start seeing more and more of these cases.

As a side note, I'm not putting the mass cancellations of the Marvel shows in this discussion. Those shows getting canceled have more to do with Disney and their upcoming streaming service than anything else.

[Earl of Popkin]

SS, your timing is impeccable. An article with many theories on why Netflix is so short term oriented

https://deadline.com/2019/03/netflix-tv-series-cancellations-strategy-one-day-at-a-time-1202576297/

They address your theory about escalating contracts (I agree with you 100% btw - ESPN pulled the same shit with their sportscenter anchors in the 90s and look how great that worked out)

And another great point they made. Don Draper said the most powerful word in advertising is “new”. Once a show hits season 3ish, no matter its success, the likelihood of that show generating new signups is negligible, thus the show no longer has value to Netflix. While that assessment is probably accurate in our new world order of insatiable consumption, what a shit way to treat art. Ultimately this leads to nothing withstanding the test of time. Nothing becomes the high water mark that other art aspires to be or eclipse. And nothing exists to inspire future artists

[Still Servant]

SS, your timing is impeccable. An article with many theories on why Netflix is so short term oriented

https://deadline.com/2019/03/netflix-tv-series-cancellations-strategy-one-day-at-a-time-1202576297/

They address your theory about escalating contracts (I agree with you 100% btw - ESPN pulled the same shit with their sportscenter anchors in the 90s and look how great that worked out)

And another great point they made. Don Draper said the most powerful word in advertising is “new”. Once a show hits season 3ish, no matter its success, the likelihood of that show generating new signups is negligible, thus the show no longer has value to Netflix. While that assessment is probably accurate in our new world order of insatiable consumption, what a shit way to treat art. Ultimately this leads to nothing withstanding the test of time. Nothing becomes the high water mark that other art aspires to be or eclipse. And nothing exists to inspire future artists

Holy shit! Is that woman a part of this forum?! :lol:

Thanks for the article, it fills in a lot of the blanks for me and was pretty enlightening on many levels. Netflix has some truly alarming best practices.

[mae]

Sounds like it's actually possible for One Day at a Time to continue at a network like ABC or NBC. I'd be all for that, I would love for it to come back in any way.

[mae]

Also this is such corporate fucking bullshit it almost makes me want to cancel Netflix but they know I can't cause it's Netflix:

https://twitter.com/netflix/status/1106246147771764736

We’ve made the very difficult decision not to renew One Day At A Time for a fourth season. The choice did not come easily — we spent several weeks trying to find a way to make another season work but in the end simply not enough people watched to justify another season.

Thank you Norman Lear for bringing this series back to television. Thank you Gloria Calderon Kellett & Mike Royce for always making us laugh and never shying away from bravely and beautifully tackling tough subject matter in a meaningful way

To Justina Machado, Todd Grinnell, Isabella Gomez, Marcel Ruiz, Stephen Tobolowsky, and Rita Moreno: thank you for inviting us into your family. You filled this show with so much heart and warmth and love, it truly felt like home.

And to anyone who felt seen or represented — possibly for the first time — by ODAAT, please don’t take this as an indication your story is not important. The outpouring of love for this show is a firm reminder to us that we must continue finding ways to tell these stories.

That last tweet comes off like such a fuck-you. Truly a horrible decision by Netflix and I hope it bites them in the ass. I hope the show moves to ABC (Disney) and flourishes for seasons to come.

Even Lin-Manuel Miranda is behind it, I mean come on:

https://twitter.com/Lin_Manuel/status/1107631123465756672

Hey @ABCNetwork, looks like a perfect fit to me. Be a hero. #SaveODAAT

With Modern Family ending it only makes sense.

Oh and if y'all haven't seen One Day at a Time, one of the best shows of recent years, then you owe it to yourself. Probably should've watched sooner, but at least we got three amazing seasons.

[Heather19]

I wonder if this will shape new shows to come. In that they'll focus more on being short term limited series, like 1-2 seasons and end after that. And not focus on continuing stories like were used to with primetime cable series.

[mae]

I think it's more to do with owning their content. They didn't outright own One Day at a Time, like they didn't own the Marvel shows. I hope all the new series they're making they own. But like Sabrina, that's a Warner Bros series. If Netflix cancels it I'm sure the CW will pick it up.

[Still Servant]

Even Lin-Manuel Miranda is behind it, I mean come on:

https://twitter.com/Lin_Manuel/status/1107631123465756672

Hey @ABCNetwork, looks like a perfect fit to me. Be a hero. #SaveODAAT


Miranda helped save Brooklyn Nine-Nine, so you never know.


I think it's more to do with owning their content. They didn't outright own One Day at a Time, like they didn't own the Marvel shows. I hope all the new series they're making they own. But like Sabrina, that's a Warner Bros series. If Netflix cancels it I'm sure the CW will pick it up.

I've said it before, one day a majority of the content on Netflix will be shit they outright own. It just makes business sense.

[St. Troy]

Miranda helped save Brooklyn Nine-Nine...

He did?

[DanHocker]

Anyone watch Love, Death & Robots? I thought it was a really interesting collection of science fiction / horror shorts. A little like an animated Black Mirror.

[Brian861]

Anyone watch Love, Death & Robots? I thought it was a really interesting collection of science fiction / horror shorts. A little like an animated Black Mirror.

Will have to check it out. Currently watching The Dirt.

[webstar1000]

Anyone watch Love, Death & Robots? I thought it was a really interesting collection of science fiction / horror shorts. A little like an animated Black Mirror.

It’s pretty cool! We also just started Good Girls and what a funny show.


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[mae]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_51UsTDBAE

[St. Troy]

That looks like one of those things I would like to watch...but won't get to because no one else (family) will go along with it...

(not that I don't watch my own TV shows, but the Netflix situation is a bit of a hassle. long story.)

[Still Servant]

Miranda helped save Brooklyn Nine-Nine...

He did?

https://mashable.com/2018/05/15/brooklyn-nine-nine-group-chat-lin-manuel-miranda-mark-hamill/

He guest starred on an episode this season. It was pretty great.

[Brian861]

That looks like one of those things I would like to watch...but won't get to because no one else (family) will go along with it...

(not that I don't watch my own TV shows, but the Netflix situation is a bit of a hassle. long story.)

Looks interesting. I'll probably check it out.

[Iwritecode]

So, I finally got around to watching Bird Box yesterday and... it kinda sucked.

I went into it mostly spoiler-free but after watching it I realized there wasn't a whole lot to really spoil.

Even the ending didn't make much sense. How were all the sighted people surviving in that building? What made it safe from the creatures?

Why didn't they explain anything about the creatures at all. Where did they come from? Why are they here? What do they even look like? Why did some people immediately commit suicide yet others were able to apparently survive and try to "turn" others?

Why the hell was Sandra Bullock's character so unattached to her own kid that she couldn't even give him a name?

So many unanswered questions and so many actors that were completely under-utilized.

[Joe315]

So, I finally got around to watching Bird Box yesterday and... it kinda sucked.

I went into it mostly spoiler-free but after watching it I realized there wasn't a whole lot to really spoil.

Even the ending didn't make much sense. How were all the sighted people surviving in that building? What made it safe from the creatures?

Why didn't they explain anything about the creatures at all. Where did they come from? Why are they here? What do they even look like? Why did some people immediately commit suicide yet others were able to apparently survive and try to "turn" others?

Why the hell was Sandra Bullock's character so unattached to her own kid that she couldn't even give him a name?

So many unanswered questions and so many actors that were completely under-utilized.

Did you read the book? Ending was better.

[Iwritecode]

So, I finally got around to watching Bird Box yesterday and... it kinda sucked.

I went into it mostly spoiler-free but after watching it I realized there wasn't a whole lot to really spoil.

Even the ending didn't make much sense. How were all the sighted people surviving in that building? What made it safe from the creatures?

Why didn't they explain anything about the creatures at all. Where did they come from? Why are they here? What do they even look like? Why did some people immediately commit suicide yet others were able to apparently survive and try to "turn" others?

Why the hell was Sandra Bullock's character so unattached to her own kid that she couldn't even give him a name?

So many unanswered questions and so many actors that were completely under-utilized.

Did you read the book? Ending was better.

I haven't but I've read where they changed it for the movie because the book's ending was darker. Kinda reminds me of how they changed the ending of I Am Legend in the movie compared to the book.

It's like they are trying to make this hopeful future when in reality, most of the world's population is already dead and the ones that are left probably don't have much longer to live because 1) they can't see, 2) the creatures are still out there and they have no idea how to kill them and 3) there are other humans still out there killing.

[Still Servant]

The problem with Bird Box is that it's a horror/suspense/thriller that has all the suspense removed from it because the story is told with flashbacks. We know Sandy B. and the kids survive.

That kind of story mechanic doesn't work great with films like this.

[Merlin1958]

So, I finally got around to watching Bird Box yesterday and... it kinda sucked.

I went into it mostly spoiler-free but after watching it I realized there wasn't a whole lot to really spoil.

Even the ending didn't make much sense. How were all the sighted people surviving in that building? What made it safe from the creatures?

Why didn't they explain anything about the creatures at all. Where did they come from? Why are they here? What do they even look like? Why did some people immediately commit suicide yet others were able to apparently survive and try to "turn" others?

Why the hell was Sandra Bullock's character so unattached to her own kid that she couldn't even give him a name?

So many unanswered questions and so many actors that were completely under-utilized.

You know, while I still somehow managed to enjoy the film, I have to agree with you on every point you make as they were going through my head the entire time. I'm also not a fan of the flashback style as used in this film. Takes a lot of the suspense right out of it from the git-go, IMHO

[Heather19]

So, I finally got around to watching Bird Box yesterday and... it kinda sucked.

I went into it mostly spoiler-free but after watching it I realized there wasn't a whole lot to really spoil.

Even the ending didn't make much sense. How were all the sighted people surviving in that building? What made it safe from the creatures?

Why didn't they explain anything about the creatures at all. Where did they come from? Why are they here? What do they even look like? Why did some people immediately commit suicide yet others were able to apparently survive and try to "turn" others?

Why the hell was Sandra Bullock's character so unattached to her own kid that she couldn't even give him a name?

So many unanswered questions and so many actors that were completely under-utilized.

I agree with Joe, the ending to the book is much better. A lot darker, but it makes more sense.

And I usually tend to be in the minority on this point, but I don't mind at all that there is no explanation for the creatures. It just is. Theoretically if something crazy like this happened in real life, you and your friends and family wouldn't know why or how it happened, or what they are. I also like that they didn't show the creatures because I can only imagine that whatever they show wouldn't be scary enough. There's a mystery to it. Also you can't see what they look like or you'll go crazy so it fits right in line with that.

In answer to your question about the ones that can see it. These were all the crazy people that escaped the insane asylum or something, right? So they're already mad.

And Sandra not naming her kid I believe was just a defense mechanism on her part because she doesn't want to be too attached to them because chances of them surviving are very unlikely. And she's trying to raise them in this brutal world and give them the tools they'll need to attempt to survive.

[Garrell]

Agree with everything Heather19 says. My thoughts are exact on it. I highly enjoyed Bird Box

[Iwritecode]

I know these videos are made with a comedic effect, but damn if it doesn't point out a lot of the same questions I had and many more.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqRU07D4cqo

[Earl of Popkin]

Not a game changer, but great example of what the future holds. Everyone has been all kumbaya with one another as streaming cos delight in their growth at the expense of traditional cable. But once the market slowed, the game changes from market growth to market share...like it always always does. So these same cos then stop innovating and focus their efforts to stealing the competition’s customers instead. Should only be a couple of years before we’re right back where we started in the 90s with options being limited to a few massive companies that stress incompatibility with their competition and punish their customers accordingly

https://gizmodo.com/as-apple-moves-into-streaming-netflix-kills-support-fo-1833863148

[Shannon]

Not a game changer, but great example of what the future holds. Everyone has been all kumbaya with one another as streaming cos delight in their growth at the expense of traditional cable. But once the market slowed, the game changes from market growth to market share...like it always always does. So these same cos then stop innovating and focus their efforts to stealing the competition’s customers instead. Should only be a couple of years before we’re right back where we started in the 90s with options being limited to a few massive companies that stress incompatibility with their competition and punish their customers accordingly

https://gizmodo.com/as-apple-moves-into-streaming-netflix-kills-support-fo-1833863148

Did anyone else think this was a spambot post at first? lol

[mae]

Public service announcement:

Spielberg's AI is now on Netflix: http://www.netflix.com/title/60020748

This is a highly original and criminal underappreciated film that's not been really streaming much anywhere that I've seen in the last few years. If you haven't seen it since 2001, please do. Now in HD!

[Brian861]

Public service announcement:

Spielberg's AI is now on Netflix: http://www.netflix.com/title/60020748

This is a highly original and criminal underappreciated film that's not been really streaming much anywhere that I've seen in the last few years. If you haven't seen it since 2001, please do. Now in HD!

Agreed! Great film.

[St. Troy]

Netflix Orders ‘Midnight Mass’ Horror Series From ‘The Haunting Of Hill House’s Mike Flanagan & Trevor Macy

https://deadline.com/2019/07/netflix-midnight-mass-mike-flanagan-trevor-macy-horror-series-1202640218/

[Earl of Popkin]

Been too long since we’ve talked up netflix’s Eventual demise...

Only 2.7M new subs in Q2 2019, well short of their 5M forecast and their quarterly worst performance in years. Regions that were hardest hit were where they implemented price increases

Office/Friends etc are leaving soon and Netflix will no longer be the place for cancelled series to be revived; it appears the new trend will be to revive them on the native network’s streaming only service. Winter is coming Netflix....

Also, my quick conspiracy theory - ya know how they love to brag about how many views their properties (like Stranger Things S3 which was awesome) get, but conveniently omit the fact that this number also includes people that watch for 5 minutes before exiting for something else?

Well, I’ve noticed many app updates of theirs (like on Xbox and iPad) now include an auto play element; as soon as you open the app, it’ll immediately play a trailer or clip of either something in your queue or whatever new show they just released. I wonder if they’re counting those as views as well........

[Kingfan24]

Netflix is getting stale and their offerings are worse and worse.

[DanHocker]

Honestly I don't really understand the Netflix hate. It's still the only streaming service other than Amazon Prime I personally pay for or really see myself paying for. Sure they're shedding 3rd party content left and right, but everyone is. The world is trending towards everyone streaming their own stuff. I really like a lot of the "Netflix Originals" at least when it comes to the shows, haven't really ventured into their original movies yet. If you like food and sorta documentary type shows check out the show "Street Food" I've really been enjoying that one.

[Garrell]

I am a fan of Netflix but wish that there was more older movie content

[Kingfan24]

Netflix is getting away from offering triple a content and people don’t like that. Only a few of their originals are any good and now they are losing their older series. Personally I have pretty cheap cable that offers way more than Netflix. Usually I get in Netflix, look around for 10 minutes, see that I’ve already watched everything interesting, and go back to cable.

[Kongo]

Netflix is getting away from offering triple a content and people don’t like that. Only a few of their originals are any good and now they are losing their older series. Personally I have pretty cheap cable that offers way more than Netflix. Usually I get in Netflix, look around for 10 minutes, see that I’ve already watched everything interesting, and go back to cable.

This is exactly how I feel about Netflix. I love the service, and gladly pay for it, but lately it seems like it's turned into the modern "straight to dvd" equivalent. I enjoy a lot of their offerings, but they have a bunch of crap to sift through

[DanHocker]

I guess maybe I treat Netflix differently than you guys. I subscribe to Netflix for specific things. Specifically their originals. Stranger Things, Altered Carbon, The Marvel Shows, Bojack Horsemen, Disenchantment, The Umbrella Academy, just to name a few. There's a whole bunch on my list that I just haven't gotten around to yet either. I never go to Netflix to just browse. To me it's like HBO in the sense that you probably don't subscribe to HBO Go to browse, you subbed for Game of Thrones or West World or something like that. Same thing, different company. I guess maybe the problem is that Netflix used to be a place that you would just browse, it's just not that anymore, that doesn't really exist anymore though (at least in my experience).

[Garrell]

I guess maybe I treat Netflix differently than you guys. I subscribe to Netflix for specific things. Specifically their originals. Stranger Things, Altered Carbon, The Marvel Shows, Bojack Horsemen, Disenchantment, The Umbrella Academy, just to name a few. There's a whole bunch on my list that I just haven't gotten around to yet either. I never go to Netflix to just browse. To me it's like HBO in the sense that you probably don't subscribe to HBO Go to browse, you subbed for Game of Thrones or West World or something like that. Same thing, different company. I guess maybe the problem is that Netflix used to be a place that you would just browse, it's just not that anymore, that doesn't really exist anymore though (at least in my experience).

Gotta say ditto to that

[Kingfan24]

I guess maybe I treat Netflix differently than you guys. I subscribe to Netflix for specific things. Specifically their originals. Stranger Things, Altered Carbon, The Marvel Shows, Bojack Horsemen, Disenchantment, The Umbrella Academy, just to name a few. There's a whole bunch on my list that I just haven't gotten around to yet either. I never go to Netflix to just browse. To me it's like HBO in the sense that you probably don't subscribe to HBO Go to browse, you subbed for Game of Thrones or West World or something like that. Same thing, different company. I guess maybe the problem is that Netflix used to be a place that you would just browse, it's just not that anymore, that doesn't really exist anymore though (at least in my experience).

Gotta say ditto to that

But I mean that’s ALSO a problem, right? Subscription fatigue. People don’t want to have 20 subscriptions to watch exclusive content. It becomes very expensive quickly.

[Earl of Popkin]

I guess maybe I treat Netflix differently than you guys. I subscribe to Netflix for specific things. Specifically their originals. Stranger Things, Altered Carbon, The Marvel Shows, Bojack Horsemen, Disenchantment, The Umbrella Academy, just to name a few. There's a whole bunch on my list that I just haven't gotten around to yet either. I never go to Netflix to just browse. To me it's like HBO in the sense that you probably don't subscribe to HBO Go to browse, you subbed for Game of Thrones or West World or something like that. Same thing, different company. I guess maybe the problem is that Netflix used to be a place that you would just browse, it's just not that anymore, that doesn't really exist anymore though (at least in my experience).

Gotta say ditto to that

But I mean that’s ALSO a problem, right? Subscription fatigue. People don’t want to have 20 subscriptions to watch exclusive content. It becomes very expensive quickly.

Don’t worry, as cos like Netflix continue to overextend themselves to meet quarterly demands (that’s why I hate on them Daniel-san) at the expense of AAA content, they’ll eventually value cold hard cash over new subscribers. Then a conglomerate will come in and buy them out along with other sinking services (what up Hulu), and will offer a bundled sub to all of the various streaming services for one low price. Then consumers will be right back where we started with cable packages in the 90s...except now we’ll have to overpay for ISP instead of a cable box or satellite dish and be forced to take a couple shitty streamers to get the small handful of ones we want. The more things change....

[DanHocker]

I guess maybe I treat Netflix differently than you guys. I subscribe to Netflix for specific things. Specifically their originals. Stranger Things, Altered Carbon, The Marvel Shows, Bojack Horsemen, Disenchantment, The Umbrella Academy, just to name a few. There's a whole bunch on my list that I just haven't gotten around to yet either. I never go to Netflix to just browse. To me it's like HBO in the sense that you probably don't subscribe to HBO Go to browse, you subbed for Game of Thrones or West World or something like that. Same thing, different company. I guess maybe the problem is that Netflix used to be a place that you would just browse, it's just not that anymore, that doesn't really exist anymore though (at least in my experience).

Gotta say ditto to that

But I mean that’s ALSO a problem, right? Subscription fatigue. People don’t want to have 20 subscriptions to watch exclusive content. It becomes very expensive quickly.

Don’t worry, as cos like Netflix continue to overextend themselves to meet quarterly demands (that’s why I hate on them Daniel-san) at the expense of AAA content, they’ll eventually value cold hard cash over new subscribers. Then a conglomerate will come in and buy them out along with other sinking services (what up Hulu), and will offer a bundled sub to all of the various streaming services for one low price. Then consumers will be right back where we started with cable packages in the 90s...except now we’ll have to overpay for ISP instead of a cable box or satellite dish and be forced to take a couple shitty streamers to get the small handful of ones we want. The more things change....

Hmm I don't really see Netflix as over extending themselves. I just think they need to be a bit more realistic with their projections. At some point they are gonna stop growing. All these services are, and Netflix has been around the longest and outside of Amazon Prime probably has the most "saturation". Though I'd be curious to know how many people who have Prime actually use Prime Video, I know I barely use it at all. I think I've only watched 3 of their shows, The Tick, Jack Ryan, and Hannah.

I don't really see things ending up back in the cable TV model either. Currently the major streaming services are Amazon Prime, Netflix, and Hulu. There's some smaller ones but all the smaller ones are struggling because they just can't offer enough to justify their price (looking at you CBS All Access). Hulu will probably get shut down eventually, because Disney basically owns it and are making their own service. Disney will succeed because people will sub just because it's Disney, Amazon Prime Video will succeed because it's just one of many selling points of Amazon Prime and not the main benefit, and I think Netflix will continue to succeed, because once these smaller services fail they'll need somewhere to go and it'll be to Netflix or Amazon, and at the end of the day if you compare just Prime Video with Netflix, Netflix is the better service with more offerings.

Netflix just needs to ride out the storm that is everyone making their own services then failing at it. Just my thoughts on the whole thing though, it's all wild speculation though and could be totally wrong.

[Earl of Popkin]

Netflix is far and away my favorite too. (Although Jack Ryan was great, cant wait for S2). And you’re right in that they def have the capital to weather this arms race of streamers. But, respectfully, I think they’re burning cash at far too rapid a rate for sustainability if they change nothing.

My other major gripe with Netflix is that they’re not leaving the marketplace better than they found it. All great businesses make an impact that forces everyone to elevate their game which ultimately benefits the customer. Say what you will about a Walmart or even an Amazon, but they gave us the same product at a better price. Netflix isn’t doing that; they just changed the way we consume the product, but now that their massive presence is squeezing out the little guys you mentioned, they’re replacing the product with inferior versions.

Essentially what they’re doing is selling you all the cereals you’ve always loved, and bringing you multiple brands of your favorite cereals (Fruity Pebbles being the obvious best, non-debatable) right to your door instead of making you seek it out. Then, once the supermarkets and convenience stores start to take them off their shelves, suddenly you can only get generic brands of cereal from Netflix while they continue to slowly raise the price of their cereal membership.

Bye bye fruity pebbles, hello chocolate frosted sugar bombs.

FYI S4 of stranger things is officially a go and Comedians in Cars dropped new eps today, so they still have some damn good cereal. But Winter is Coming

[DanHocker]

I don't really track their financials so I can't really speak to that, but I was always under the impression that other than licensing B movies no one cares about the originals were way cheaper to produce than the licensing fees for the A movies and TV shows. As far as leaving the market in a better place and as for squeezing out the little guys, I don't think that's really what's happening.

It's the little guys that just don't really seem to understand the market all that well. Those little guys in my opinion are sorta squeezing themselves out, just because they want a piece of the pie so to speak, but can't offer enough content to make it worth the consumer's investment. At the same time they are making Netflix's product worse for them by not renewing their licensing agreements. It's a little on Netflix as they could offer better deals on that stuff to convince those people to stay, but without really knowing the numbers and the operating costs and what not maybe those margins were all they could be in the first place. Honestly I can't even imagine what it costs to operate the tech end of things on Netflix's front. It has to be absurd.

That's great for Stranger Things. I really liked season 3. I'm also really looking forward to season 2 of Altered Carbon. That show might be my favorite of their originals. I really wish Marvel wasn't axe'ing the Netflix shows though, Jessica Jones season 3 was fantastic.

[Earl of Popkin]

Great point about the little guys - be better. (Easy for us to say on the outside looking in)

It’s gotta be frustrating for them though. They want a show they can anchor their service on (like House of Cards way back when), but then to see someone as massive as YouTube present a top tier anchor show like Cobra Kai - love that show to death - and then have to resort to devaluing their own Premium service and ultimately giving it away for free just to monetize the traffic. I’m personally hoping for more niche services like Shudder in the future. Give me a sci-fi streamer, a standup streamer, horror etc

[St. Troy]

FYI S4 of stranger things is officially a go...

Is it? Where did you see that? (I've been watching for that news and haven't seen anything official from Netflix.)

[Earl of Popkin]

FYI S4 of stranger things is officially a go...

Is it? Where did you see that? (I've been watching for that news and haven't seen anything official from Netflix.)

You’re right. Nothing officially official from Netflix. But Shawn Levy, head producer, already said it’s a go (to collider maybe? Cant remember). And the Duffer bros said filming starts in October (for growth spurt purposes I’m assuming) don’t remember who they said that to. I think comicbook?

They also said:
S1: Winter (ish) 1983
S2: Fall 1984
S3: Summer 1985
S4: most likely Spring 1986