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Randall Flagg
08-28-2016, 11:49 AM
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(http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/201569498586?)AUCTION LINK (http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/201655765761?)


For your consideration is an unsigned copy of Charlie The Choo Choo, by "Beryl Evans".

150 copies of this book were handed out at the 2016 San Diego Comic Convention. An actress was hired to pose as Beryl Evans and sign the books. The book is a promotional item for Sony's upcoming The Dark Tower movie.

This book is unsigned, and therefore in my opinion even more rare.
This book was mailed to me by Sony Pictures in a bubble envelope mailer and has the most minor of bumps. To the naked eye they are almost imperceptible. Please check the high resolution pictures.
Artwork in the book is by Ned Dameron, and the words in the book are directly from Stephen King's book "The Waste Lands-The Dark Tower III"

The winner will also receive the envelope that the book came in. Note: Some personal information will be obscured (blacked out with a marker).

As a bonus, the winner of the auction will receive a bookmark and a card from my site. See pics.


No reserve!


100% of the net proceeds of this auction go to

The Haven Foundation.


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Randall Flagg
08-28-2016, 11:59 AM
If a member here wins the auction and the final price is over $750, I will toss in a Charlie the Choo-Choo t-shirt (size small).

becca69
08-29-2016, 12:42 PM
I wish I had $$ right now!

Randall Flagg
08-30-2016, 01:47 PM
If this stays the same, it will set a new low for Charlie The Choo-Choo sales on ebay...ouch!

carlosdetweiller
08-30-2016, 01:58 PM
If this stays the same, it will set a new low for Charlie The Choo-Choo sales on ebay...ouch!

I think it will do well. If you followed the bidding on the previous copies I seem to recall a lot of very late bidding that really drove the prices up. Keep the faith!

Randall Flagg
08-30-2016, 02:55 PM
If this stays the same, it will set a new low for Charlie The Choo-Choo sales on ebay...ouch!

I think it will do well. If you followed the bidding on the previous copies I seem to recall a lot of very late bidding that really drove the prices up. Keep the faith!

We will. It's for the HF Fundraiser, so monetarily there is nothing to lose. I was simply pleased that a major Studio actually responded, and the book will undoubtedly sell for more than today's high bid of $410.
Whether there were 200 or 500 printed, this isn't an item that 10 years from now will be found in NF+ condition for $500.

Theli
08-31-2016, 07:46 AM
With several days left to go, it's not doing bad at all.

Randall Flagg
09-01-2016, 11:40 AM
The auction ends on a Sunday that precedes a US holiday (Labor Day). Just might be a chance to snipe it.
If an international member wants to bid, just let me know in advance.

Merlin1958
09-01-2016, 01:12 PM
Wow. Seems like an opportunity to secure a rather rare collectible. Get in there folks!!!

Patrick
09-01-2016, 10:08 PM
What a great item to start the 2017 HF auction!

Randall Flagg
09-03-2016, 11:07 AM
Wow! Shot up to $711. I hope a member wins it (for $751 or higher).

Merlin1958
09-03-2016, 02:51 PM
Very glad to see this doing well!!!!!

Randall Flagg
09-04-2016, 11:48 AM
Closed out at $811. Pretty good price.

Room 217 Caretaker
09-04-2016, 03:23 PM
Closed out at $811. Pretty good price.

I agree! Very nice start for the upcoming fund raiser and very smart for selling it now while item is hot.

Mulleins

Merlin1958
09-04-2016, 05:35 PM
Closed out at $811. Pretty good price.

I agree! Very nice start for the upcoming fund raiser and very smart for selling it now while item is hot.

Mulleins

Nah, just dumb luck!! lol j/k

webstar1000
09-06-2016, 02:53 AM
Closed out at $811. Pretty good price.

I agree! Very nice start for the upcoming fund raiser and very smart for selling it now while item is hot.

Mulleins

Agreed Ralph. You can see that the values on these are starting to drop faster and faster. I think this is one book that is a total gamble. GREAT call on putting it up now!

becca69
09-06-2016, 05:39 AM
A great price. I think the prices will definitely come down after NYCC.

Randall Flagg
09-06-2016, 05:45 AM
A great price. I think the prices will definitely come down after NYCC.
They will if more books are distributed.

webstar1000
09-06-2016, 07:23 AM
A great price. I think the prices will definitely come down after NYCC.
They will if more books are distributed.

350 at the VERY least will end up in peoples hands one way or another...

Randall Flagg
09-06-2016, 09:39 AM
Where is the proof that 500 were printed?
Anecdotal? I know someone who says that up to 500 could be printed.

webstar1000
09-06-2016, 09:42 AM
Where is the proof that 500 were printed?
Anecdotal? I know someone who says that up to 500 could be printed.

No company would fire up a perfect binder machine for a 150 RF. Sorry my man... we wouldn't and I think it was fact that at least 500 were produced. Hey if not.. all good and the pricing will hold. I firmly believe there was more than 150 produced. Time will tell i guess though.

Randall Flagg
09-06-2016, 11:38 AM
Believing is one thing; actually knowing (having legitimate evidence, proof) is another. I wouldn't be surprised to one day have evidence that more than 150 were printed, but right now I have the word of someone, who has the word of someone else. If I repeat it, it's tertiary, but not a fact.

herbertwest
09-06-2016, 12:56 PM
Where is the proof that 500 were printed?
Anecdotal? I know someone who says that up to 500 could be printed.

No company would fire up a perfect binder machine for a 150 RF. Sorry my man... we wouldn't and I think it was fact that at least 500 were produced. Hey if not.. all good and the pricing will hold. I firmly believe there was more than 150 produced. Time will tell i guess though.

Am sure that a good partner to such a publisher woudln't hesitate to do so.
And well, it's possible to buy individual printed on demand books...

webstar1000
09-06-2016, 01:03 PM
Where is the proof that 500 were printed?
Anecdotal? I know someone who says that up to 500 could be printed.

No company would fire up a perfect binder machine for a 150 RF. Sorry my man... we wouldn't and I think it was fact that at least 500 were produced. Hey if not.. all good and the pricing will hold. I firmly believe there was more than 150 produced. Time will tell i guess though.

Am sure that a good partner to such a publisher woudln't hesitate to do so.
And well, it's possible to buy individual printed on demand books...

It is but they would cost a pile of money in set up fees as the machine takes time to get ready. For a book like this... Can't see it. But like I said... Time will tell won't it?


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Randall Flagg
09-06-2016, 01:21 PM
Quote me a price to print 200 books similar to this?
Don't worry about what the artist was paid, or If King only received $1 (we have that handled).
Pretend I'm Sony Pictures, what do you want?
Quote me price?

Hurry, or I have another printer wanting the job (you know you want to do it, just so you can at a later time reveal you were the printer).

I need a quote today.

Randall Flagg
09-06-2016, 01:26 PM
Hurry


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Br!an
09-06-2016, 01:30 PM
Believing is one thing; actually knowing (having legitimate evidence, proof) is another. I wouldn't be surprised to one day have evidence that more than 150 were printed, but right now I have the word of someone, who has the word of someone else. If I repeat it, it's tertiary, but not a fact.

It might not be proof, but I'm betting David is right.

Randall Flagg
09-06-2016, 01:31 PM
Believing is one thing; actually knowing (having legitimate evidence, proof) is another. I wouldn't be surprised to one day have evidence that more than 150 were printed, but right now I have the word of someone, who has the word of someone else. If I repeat it, it's tertiary, but not a fact.

It might not be proof, but I'm betting David is right.
"Reliable sources tell me..."

Most credible journalists obtain at least two credible sources before going to print/post.

Of course around here two rumors and one post count.
If Bob told me, that's enough...

Br!an
09-06-2016, 01:36 PM
Believing is one thing; actually knowing (having legitimate evidence, proof) is another. I wouldn't be surprised to one day have evidence that more than 150 were printed, but right now I have the word of someone, who has the word of someone else. If I repeat it, it's tertiary, but not a fact.

It might not be proof, but I'm betting David is right.
"Reliable sources tell me..."

Reliable is good.

Randall Flagg
09-06-2016, 01:43 PM
Believing is one thing; actually knowing (having legitimate evidence, proof) is another. I wouldn't be surprised to one day have evidence that more than 150 were printed, but right now I have the word of someone, who has the word of someone else. If I repeat it, it's tertiary, but not a fact.

It might not be proof, but I'm betting David is right.
"Reliable sources tell me..."

Reliable is good.


Well in that case.
According to two reliable sources (both of whom are confidential and have asked to not have their identities divulged), who both spoke to a different reliable source; I can report that there were 500 copies printed.

becca69
09-06-2016, 01:47 PM
:evil:

carlosdetweiller
09-06-2016, 01:48 PM
Believing is one thing; actually knowing (having legitimate evidence, proof) is another. I wouldn't be surprised to one day have evidence that more than 150 were printed, but right now I have the word of someone, who has the word of someone else. If I repeat it, it's tertiary, but not a fact.

It might not be proof, but I'm betting David is right.
"Reliable sources tell me..."

Most credible journalists obtain at least two credible sources before going to print/post.

Of course around here two rumors and one post count.
If Bob told me, that's enough...

I appreciate the vote of confidence.....but I am so far out of the loop on this one. I have no idea what is going on with it.

webstar1000
09-06-2016, 01:50 PM
Why does it bother you so bad brother that there were more than 150 books done?


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Randall Flagg
09-06-2016, 01:56 PM
Why does it bother you so bad brother that there were more than 150 books done?


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It doesn't "bother" me.

I just want the quote.
$10K, $20K, $30K

You said you are very happy to be doing graphic stuff for The Mist. I'm sure you would want to have a part in a Sony project for The Gunslinger.

Why is it so hard to get a quote?

webstar1000
09-06-2016, 01:59 PM
Why does it bother you so bad brother that there were more than 150 books done?


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It doesn't "bother" me.

I just want the quote.
$10K, $20K, $30K

You said you are very happy to be doing graphic stuff for The Mist. I'm sure you would want to have a part in a Sony project for The Gunslinger.

Why is it so hard to get a quote?

What are you talking about?


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Randall Flagg
09-06-2016, 02:02 PM
Go upthread to posts 24-26

webstar1000
09-06-2016, 02:04 PM
Go upthread to posts 24-26

K, get me page count and overall size and I'll guess he paper quality to be pretty good. I'll quote it when I get to work tomorrow. Why not. Haha


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AKC
09-06-2016, 02:58 PM
Well this is entertaining if nothing else.....

What exactly are we trying to determine/prove? Value?

Like Bob, gladly sitting on the sidelines for this one.

webstar1000
09-06-2016, 03:05 PM
The cost to print 150, 300, even 500 will be very close due to set up costs. My point being... Why not print more? Why wouldn't they? Because... They would. Simple as that. I see it day in and day out at work.


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Br!an
09-06-2016, 03:17 PM
The cost to print 150, 300, even 500 will be very close due to set up costs. My point being... Why not print more? Why wouldn't they? Because... They would. Simple as that. I see it day in and day out at work.


That makes sense.

AKC
09-06-2016, 03:18 PM
Yep. Absolutely. Been managing global print production in the CPG and Retail industry for 20 years. All printers/binders have a Minimum Order Quantity (MOQ) / Threshold set to cover the initial start up costs. Once reached, the costs go down as the quantity goes up.

Ok, going back to the sidelines. Carry on.

Aronstg
09-06-2016, 06:25 PM
Yep. Absolutely. Been managing global print production in the CPG and Retail industry for 20 years. All printers/binders have a Minimum Order Quantity (MOQ) / Threshold set to cover the initial start up costs. Once reached, the costs go down as the quantity goes up.

Ok, going back to the sidelines. Carry on.

Why print more though? What if they just wanted to give away 150 copies at a singular event so they print 200 total (assuming since a few people have gotten a copy that wasn't distributed at SDCC). I'm in the group that thinks they printed more than 150 but that doesn't mean that they plan on making more than 150 available to the general public.

I would lean more towards 500 being printed because someone heard from a reliable source but as stated above we cannot say with a certainty.

becca69
09-06-2016, 06:31 PM
Yep. Absolutely. Been managing global print production in the CPG and Retail industry for 20 years. All printers/binders have a Minimum Order Quantity (MOQ) / Threshold set to cover the initial start up costs. Once reached, the costs go down as the quantity goes up.

Ok, going back to the sidelines. Carry on.

Why print more though? What if they just wanted to give away 150 copies at a singular event so they print 200 total (assuming since a few people have gotten a copy that wasn't distributed at SDCC). I'm in the group that thinks they printed more than 150 but that doesn't mean that they plan on making more than 150 available to the general public.

I would lean more towards 500 being printed because someone heard from a reliable source but as stated above we cannot say with a certainty.

It's possible only 500 were allocated to the US market?? It really doesn't make sense to only order 150 when 500 or even 1000 is not much more cost wise.

Aronstg
09-06-2016, 06:40 PM
Make sense for what though? If you inviting 400 people a wedding why would you order 1000 invites? Even if 1000 invites only cost $20 more than 500 invites.

These books were being given away.. there was not thought to aftermarket value when they decided to do this promotion. If they did indeed only to plan to give these away at SDCC why would they print 500? Where would they put the other 350 and why would they get an extra 350 if they had no plans for them?

Now if they did plan on having further promotions then yes but any other event will not have the impact that SDCC would. That is the mecca of promotions for any fantasy movie.

I'm just playing the devils advocate here.

becca69
09-06-2016, 07:46 PM
I'm sure to be used for other promotions and possible gifts for the cast and crew. My friends work in the Philly movie industry and they normally received gifts that were produced as giveaways/promotions - mugs, t-shirts, books, etc.

I'm going to bet they planned a west coast and east coast giveaway. They would have printed them all at the same time.

webstar1000
09-07-2016, 03:54 AM
We know for a fact that others have been given away though. This thread???? If it is a promo book then why not use it as such? A PROMOTION to PROMOTE something. Like I said, time will tell:)

EDIT: Interesting you brought up wedding invites. Here is a PRIME example Aron of this. They want to invite 250 people to the wedding... for the small extra cost they WILL ALWAYS order more. I am more than happy to go on and on about stories of clients here that will say "really? for an extra $25 I can have 50 more??" Or whatever the numbers are... they ALWAYS will. In case they want to throw someone they forgot a invite. NO ONE EVER orders the exact amount that they plan to invite.... EVER. So that is not a valid argument either man. Sorry, I do this for a living and see it ever day. Every single day. A 1000 if they wanted 400.. no... but that is not what we are discussing here... we are discussing 150, 300, or 500. That situation would fall under just what I am talking about. I am not playing devils advocate but sharing what I see all the time guys... thats all.

becca69
09-07-2016, 04:01 AM
It is true. They always order more because it's so minimal an amount.... stationary, business cards, brochures, postcards - it doesn't matter, they order more.

webstar1000
09-07-2016, 04:06 AM
It is true. They always order more because it's so minimal an amount.... stationary, business cards, brochures, postcards - it doesn't matter, they order more.

ALWAYS. EVERY TIME.