Gerald Winters and Son, the new bookstore in Bangor

[Randall Flagg]

Perhaps since Gerald doesn't want to promote his site through this thread, then the thread should be archived.

Perhaps this is a stupid question, but does this thread exist for him or for us (TDT readers etc.)?
You are correct. This is our forum. If members stop posting in the thread, it will eventually fall off page one.

[Randall Flagg]

I
As I understand it, as far as he is concerned if this thread were to be deleted it would not be a bad thing.
Last I looked, neither you nor Gerald were staff members. I don't tell him what to display in his store, and he doesn't dictate what threads or posts are displayed here on the site.

[Randall Flagg]

Sorry to members that I was offline for the last 9 hours. Don't worry, the thread will continue to exist as long as it occasionally (even rarely) gets posted in.

[stroppygoblin]

Sorry to members that I was offline for the last 9 hours. Don't worry, the thread will continue to exist as long as it occasionally (even rarely) gets posted in.

I hope you clocked in and clocked out. We record these absences ya know... :crow burp:

[biomieg]

Gerald is selling lettered copies of The Plant. Very rare!!

[Fsmdr]

Gerald is selling lettered copies of The Plant. Very rare!!

Part one and part three only.

[Merlin1958]

I
As I understand it, as far as he is concerned if this thread were to be deleted it would not be a bad thing.
Last I looked, neither you nor Gerald were staff members. I don't tell him what to display in his store, and he doesn't dictate what threads or posts are displayed here on the site.



You're absolutely right and I never suggested any such thing. Anymore than I would tell you to go fuck yourself. I'm very sure that you are imminently capable of doing that on your own. I am not a staff member and never should be one. That's why it's your site as well it should be.


LOL LOL J/K Busting balls is an "East Coast/West Coast tradition", no? lol lol lol Thick skin, remember? lol

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Gerald is selling lettered copies of The Plant. Very rare!!

Part one and part three only.

The seller could not find a lettered part two. He looked for a long time.

[Phalucha]

I was quoted $9k for a lettered Plant part once. Didn't take it.

[Fsmdr]

I was quoted $9k for a lettered Plant part once. Didn't take it.

I wouldn't have taken it either.

[Roseannebarr]

A lettered copy ran for the family? With no inscription? I kind of don't get it. The appeal of owning a plant set to me, is the personalized inscription and greeting from SK. I have a personalized NLR and the Plant. I hope the seller gets what they want, but I prefer the set David owns made out to Kirby and Kirby's sister. Those are worth owning!

[T-Dogz_AK47]

A lettered copy ran for the family? With no inscription? I kind of don't get it. The appeal of owning a plant set to me, is the personalized inscription and greeting from SK. I have a personalized NLR and the Plant. I hope the seller gets what they want, but I prefer the set David owns made out to Kirby and Kirby's sister. Those are worth owning!

This is not intended to be snarky or anything, but why would you want to own something that has been inscribed to somebody else?

Maybe it's just me, but I personally wouldn't want a plant set (or any set) that had been inscribed to Kirby and Kirby's sister.

[needfulthings]

I know what you mean...I am kind of partial to the set signed to the wife & I (after the fact).
http://imageshack.com/a/img924/5430/Jbu1zA.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img538/6867/JVXijm.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img922/5544/ZiKoHC.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img540/6047/xKGahw.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img923/1525/Qf6FWH.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img540/8707/h6BioO.jpg

[webstar1000]

A lettered copy ran for the family? With no inscription? I kind of don't get it. The appeal of owning a plant set to me, is the personalized inscription and greeting from SK. I have a personalized NLR and the Plant. I hope the seller gets what they want, but I prefer the set David owns made out to Kirby and Kirby's sister. Those are worth owning!

This is not intended to be snarky or anything, but why would you want to own something that has been inscribed to somebody else?

Maybe it's just me, but I personally wouldn't want a plant set (or any set) that had been inscribed to Kirby and Kirby's sister.

Cause it's signed man. And that's how those were done... I hope to own a set one day....


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[divemaster]

A lettered copy ran for the family? With no inscription? I kind of don't get it. The appeal of owning a plant set to me, is the personalized inscription and greeting from SK. I have a personalized NLR and the Plant. I hope the seller gets what they want, but I prefer the set David owns made out to Kirby and Kirby's sister. Those are worth owning!

This is not intended to be snarky or anything, but why would you want to own something that has been inscribed to somebody else?

Maybe it's just me, but I personally wouldn't want a plant set (or any set) that had been inscribed to Kirby and Kirby's sister.

I agree in general, but not in this particular case. I wouldn't want a random book inscribed to "Fred." That's not me. That's some other dude who stood in line at a bookstore or lurked outside of the restroom to snag a signature for himself. However, in the case of The Plant and a few similar books, these were gifts designed to be inscribed. To me, that's the "published version." Like the check on The Regulators lettered made out to (whomever). It's a piece of publishing history and of great interest. Certainly different that "Fred" grabbing a sig after the fact.

[Fsmdr]

A lettered copy ran for the family? With no inscription? I kind of don't get it. The appeal of owning a plant set to me, is the personalized inscription and greeting from SK. I have a personalized NLR and the Plant. I hope the seller gets what they want, but I prefer the set David owns made out to Kirby and Kirby's sister. Those are worth owning!

This is not intended to be snarky or anything, but why would you want to own something that has been inscribed to somebody else?

Maybe it's just me, but I personally wouldn't want a plant set (or any set) that had been inscribed to Kirby and Kirby's sister.

I agree in general, but not in this particular case. I wouldn't want a random book inscribed to "Fred." That's not me. That's some other dude who stood in line at a bookstore or lurked outside of the restroom to snag a signature for himself. However, in the case of The Plant and a few similar books, these were gifts designed to be inscribed. To me, that's the "published version." Like the check on The Regulators lettered made out to (whomever). It's a piece of publishing history and of great interest. Certainly different that "Fred" grabbing a sig after the fact.

Ditto. Also to me it matters when it's an association copy and inscribed to someone well known like Michelle Slung or Peter Straub vs inscribed to Chris, King's babysitter.

[wizardsrainbow]

A lettered copy ran for the family? With no inscription? I kind of don't get it. The appeal of owning a plant set to me, is the personalized inscription and greeting from SK. I have a personalized NLR and the Plant. I hope the seller gets what they want, but I prefer the set David owns made out to Kirby and Kirby's sister. Those are worth owning!

This is not intended to be snarky or anything, but why would you want to own something that has been inscribed to somebody else?

Maybe it's just me, but I personally wouldn't want a plant set (or any set) that had been inscribed to Kirby and Kirby's sister.

Hey, every collector has preferences....as owner of Betts, I'd say 35%-40% of my customers would insist on flatsigned copies of books, while 60%-65% don't care and would buy either flatsigned or inscribed copies....I respect either preference, whatever floats your boat.

Me personally (as in my personal collection)...I'd say other than most regular S/Ls (which are flatsigned), about 75% of what I own is inscribed to someone else. Yes, I own the Kirby and Kay McCauley Plant sets...they are "big" names in the King circle and all books inscribed to either sell for a premium because of the association. Similarly, I own pre-released inscribed copies of LSOE and WTTKH Artist Edition copies that King inscribed for former Grant Books employees...Only a few of these inscribed copies exist and were dated two weeks before publication date. Nowhere else could you get copies like this...it floats my boat that's all, if not yours, I have ZERO issues with that. I also think I have the earliest inscribed copy of Salem's Lot 1st edition that exists. Seen plenty of flatsigned and dated copies day of publication October 17, 1975 but the one I own is inscribed to King's college roomy Flip and is dated 2 WEEKS prior to publication. Never seen another legit one with an earlier date. I'd take my copy over a flatsigned day of publication one 100% of the time...but again, that is just me.

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/519/medium/WTTKH1.jpg

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/519/medium/Salem2.jpg

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/519/medium/WTTKH_KelLee.jpg

[surly]

I agree that as far as inscriptions go, THE PLANT is kinda unique because of the association, but beyond that I still prefer inscribed items to flat signed.
Its tough to say why. I started because it offered more to judge a signature on, but then I realized it was fun to read the inscriptions and imagine the circumstance that they were signed. Plus, its technically 'hand written manuscript' by King which just makes it more fun for me (heck, a hand-written note just sold on ebay for over $700, and what it that but just a long inscription). It doesn't hurt that because the majority of collectors prefer flat signed, that I can sometimes get inscriptions at a better price too. In the end, it really is 'collect what makes you happy'.

[Aronstg]

I probably also prefer flat signed but another counter argument to that is sometimes people are looking for a particular inscription also. If I want a signed IT with a mention of a balloon or floating, then I don't have much choice to seek out a previously personalized and inscribed book. The availability to get something personalized and inscribed to me these days is pretty rare.. in fact the only way that I know of that being possible is the HF Grand Prize.

[TravelinJack]

Those are great. I love the copies of Gunslinger that he inscribed to folks saying, "Welcome to the weird weird west" something like that.

That copy of It that David just sold that had the inscription and the balloon, classic!

[wizardsrainbow]

Those are great. I love the copies of Gunslinger that he inscribed to folks saying, "Welcome to the weird weird west" something like that.

That copy of It that David just sold that had the inscription and the balloon, classic!

Like this one:

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/519/medium/Gunslinger12.jpg
or
http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/519/medium/Gunslinger_2.JPG

[needfulthings]

I will admit that parts one & two were presented to Mr. King for his signature. But part three was sent to us after he inquired if I owned a copy?

[TravelinJack]

Those are great. I love the copies of Gunslinger that he inscribed to folks saying, "Welcome to the weird weird west" something like that.

That copy of It that David just sold that had the inscription and the balloon, classic!

Like this one:

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/519/medium/Gunslinger12.jpg
or
http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/519/medium/Gunslinger_2.JPG


Yes indeedy!

[webstar1000]

I would like to say that today I visited Gerald's store and although a quick visit... it was fantastic. A MUST for any King collector. He showed me some pretty amazing stuff I have never seen NOR knew existed. Although there was nothing I needed per say there... I did buy a cool Creepshow figure and Gerald gave me a couple of
Very cool souvenirs:) my only regret was that I didn't have more time to spend there! It's right downtown too and easy to find. Very cool to see it in person!

PS: on a side note... did the picture in front of Kings home and about lost my shit when King and Owen came out to go for a run. I was so nervous I just went to my car and my wife right right up to them. Lol they were a ways away.... when they got to where my wife was... it turned out it was Kings brother and his boy. The resemblances were uncanny! It was a rush either way!!!


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[peripheral]

Awesome story man... and that story about your wife going right up to them while the supercollector / fan nervously sits in their car is replicated the world over. I was at a gig and saw my rock hero Perry Farrell (James Addiction).

"Hey, isn't that Perry...? Oh my god, it is. Don't look, don't look!."
"What? Come on. Let's go over and say hello..."
"What? What are you doing!?! OH GOD!"

(I went over and met him. What would we do without wives who don't give a shit as much as us)

[sharki69]

Gerald is selling the DTII new in shrink wrap for $60 (Includes FREE World Fantasy Convention 1979 Program)

http://www.geraldwinters.com/dt-2-drawing-of-the-three-special-stephen-king/

[Randall Flagg]

Gerald is selling the DTII new in shrink wrap for $60 (Includes FREE World Fantasy Convention 1979 Program)

http://www.geraldwinters.com/dt-2-drawing-of-the-three-special-stephen-king/
That's a VERY good deal.

[stroppygoblin]

worth buying just for a mint jacket in case you ever need to upgrade a S/L

[webstar1000]

Steal of a deal!!!


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[sharki69]

worth buying just for a mint jacket in case you ever need to upgrade a S/L

Exactly what I need :)

[wizardsrainbow]

worth buying just for a mint jacket in case you ever need to upgrade a S/L

Don't be too quick...I've purchased about 20 new shrinkwrapped Waste Lands copies in the last 3-4 years and all but 2 had imperfections to the DJ DESPITE being shrinkwrapped....This book is VERY hard to get a perfect jacket.

[Tommy]

worth buying just for a mint jacket in case you ever need to upgrade a S/L

Don't be too quick...I've purchased about 20 new shrinkwrapped Waste Lands copies in the last 3-4 years and all but 2 had imperfections to the DJ DESPITE being shrinkwrapped....This book is VERY hard to get a perfect jacket.

Same here, mine stayed in the shrinkwrap up until two years ago and it has issues.

[divemaster]

The Wastelands DJ is so flimsy, I'd be willing to bet that the damage (or "issues") come because of the shrinkwrap, not in spite of it. I've heard of folks pulling the shrinkwrap off this volume, only to have flakes of the DJ come off with it.

[Tommy]

The Wastelands DJ is so flimsy, I'd be willing to bet that the damage (or "issues") come because of the shrinkwrap, not in spite of it. I've heard of folks pulling the shrinkwrap off this volume, only to have flakes of the DJ come off with it.

Yeah, it was a gift when I was younger and didn't know anything about collecting. I should have removed it the day I got it.

[TCCBodhi]

Just to be clear, the DTII-Drawing of the Three is a different book than DTIII-Waste Lands. While DTII was available until recently from Grant, I don't think I've seen new copies below $75 dollars and more often $99 in quite some time, so this is a pretty great deal that Gerald is offering.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Just to be clear, the DTII-Drawing of the Three is a different book than DTIII-Waste Lands. While DTII was available until recently from Grant, I don't think I've seen new copies below $75 dollars and more often $99 in quite some time, so this is a pretty great deal that Gerald is offering.

David has several copies for sale at Betts:
AW-34 - DT II: Drawing of the Three (Grant) true 1st edition; NF-/F - $50
AW-35 - DT II: Drawing of the Three (Grant) true 1st edition; F-/F - $65
AW-36 - DT II: Drawing of the Three (Grant) true 1st edition; F-/F- - $60
AW-37 - DT II: Drawing of the Three (Grant) true 1st edition; F-/F- - $60
AW-38 - DT II: Drawing of the Three (Grant) true 1st edition; F-/F - $65

[TCCBodhi]

I stand corrected. My apologies to David for missing those. An excellent deal all around on one of my favorite books (not to mention my first SK 'collectible' edition).

[jreitan47]

Just received my first purchase from Gerald and was mighty impressed with his quick service and careful packaging. I love how easy it is to purchase on his site. I'll be buying again soon, I'm sure!

I bought a small item for the non-fic appearance collection, the not often seen small booklet containing King's intro to "The Collector" produced by BOMC.

http://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-31wr48c6hg/images/stencil/1024x1024/products/789/1078/collector_1__37443.1488468465.jpg?c=2

[Brian861]

Nice, Jonathan!

[needfulthings]

:thumbsup:
All you need now is the SLIPCASE that came with it.:lol:
http://imageshack.com/a/img924/1102/Jix7yz.jpg

[bdwyer19]

I just received the 1st edition DT II from Gerald, and it was flawless. When I took the shrinkwrap off, the jacket was perfect!

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/bdwyer19/EFAEB36D-6260-4CCD-9B4B-E8F6AC7488E4_zpstz0zxtfi.jpg

[The Library Policeman]

Looks great!

[Brian861]

Congrats, Brian!

[shutterlife]

I need to double check my copy, and possibly order a backup

[TravelinJack]

This looks familiar. :-)

http://www.geraldwinters.com/eyes-of-the-dragon-portfolio-numbered-david-palladini/

[Br!an]

This looks familiar. :-)

http://www.geraldwinters.com/eyes-of-the-dragon-portfolio-numbered-david-palladini/

He's been a reseller/retailer promoting that since the beginning.

[TravelinJack]

It was neat seeing the portfolio listed in the wild.

I just ordered 3 DT IIs. Can't beat that price.

[tippy4]

I just ordered 3 DT IIs. Can't beat that price.

Actually...you can....

DT2 for $45 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/142404908698?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

The buyer would have gotten it for $28, but I tried to snipe it one second before the auction ended.

[webstar1000]

I just ordered 3 DT IIs. Can't beat that price.

Actually...you can....

DT2 for $45 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/142404908698?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

The buyer would have gotten it for $28, but I tried to snipe it one second before the auction ended.

Was it sealed?


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[TravelinJack]

And did it come with the extra program? :-p

[tippy4]

I just ordered 3 DT IIs. Can't beat that price.

Actually...you can....

DT2 for $45 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/142404908698?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

The buyer would have gotten it for $28, but I tried to snipe it one second before the auction ended.

Was it sealed?


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Yes it was.

[ICry4Oy]

Anyone with a spare $10,000.00 laying around can own a Lettered (AC) Gunslinger!


http://www.geraldwinters.com/the-gunslinger-lettered-edition/

[tippy4]

Couldn't AC just mean Author's Copy?

Clearly it is inscribed by King....

[webstar1000]

Couldn't AC just mean Author's Copy?

Clearly it is inscribed by King....

I thought that was what it was.... I have a Danse Macabre S/L that is inscribed as well to Dick...

[surly]

Without any context, that would have been my assumption as well. The description suggests after they reached Z, they went on to number them AA, AB, AC...etc. I imagine if that was the case they likely would have identified an Author's Copy differently.

I remember a listing on Berry Levin's site for a 'forged' lettered AP edition of THE STAND. The description went on to say that the designated letters were A, B, C...AA, BB, CC..so there should have been no such designation as AP. I always assumed that AP meant Artist's Proof. Further, there was the whole McCammon SPEAKS THE NIGHTBIRD lettered edition question that happened not that long ago where copies just magically appeared after being unknown for years. This is why I don't collect lettered editions that are the same as a numbered.

[wolfehr]

If I recall correctly there was an Author's Copy on eBay awhile ago that spelled out both words.

Found a picture of how DTII was marked. The DTI I saw looked the same based on my recollection.

http://www.darktowercompendium.com/dt2-signed-ac.jpg

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[biomieg]

David (wizardsrainbow) owns lettered Gunslinger AY (see this post in his collection thread: http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?1787-Book-Collection-Wizardsrainbow&p=90036&viewfull=1#post90036 ). So it looks like there were 52 lettered copies issued and they were designated A-Z and AA-AZ.

[Randall Flagg]

It would be great to clarify, but it probably will fetch something close to $10K.
At that price one would think Gerald would put one of the mint condition GS DJ's he has on the book.

[Bev Vincent]

Gerald's store got some nice press coverage (http://cultureshock.bangordailynews.com/2017/08/02/bangor/19hoursinbangor-brings-film-writers-to-bangor-for-an-exclusive-stephen-king-tour/)
I dropped in yesterday for a look around, too.

[Randall Flagg]

That was VIP treatment from Columbia.

[stroppygoblin]

David (wizardsrainbow) owns lettered Gunslinger AY (see this post in his collection thread: http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?1787-Book-Collection-Wizardsrainbow&p=90036&viewfull=1#post90036 ). So it looks like there were 52 lettered copies issued and they were designated A-Z and AA-AZ.

After seeing Alec's new copy, we discussed the different lettered copies that have been seen. It is widely reported that there are only 35 copies of the Gunslinger Lettered edition. Stephen King's own web site states this (although incorrectly lists as AA-II) and the likes of George Beahm also stated this in various publications about King and his works. Gerald has also stated only 35 copies in the past.

Why is this significant? Well if the sequencing was A-Z then AA, AB, AC, etc. then it would only have reached AI. David's book (the one shown in the Catalog) is AY. Also of all the books I have seen (AB, AC, AE, AF) they all share a similar rounded A, with a distinctive shorter left side to the A. David's AY book has a very different, sharp pointed 'A'.

Beahm, later amended the count to 52 in his subsequent book reprints, Gerald's website has also been amended to state 52. My theory is that there were originally 35 with a number of unnumbered (although still signed) copies held back by Grant. At a later date he added the remaining 17 (hence the difference in the lettering).

I have no evidence to support this and it's purely guesswork on my part. I would be interested if anyone (especially David) has any further information on this.

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/IMG_07732.JPG http://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-31wr48c6hg/images/stencil/2048x2048/products/862/1447/gunslinger_letter_4__44316.1498593611.jpghttp://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/922/IMG_4159_zps7lmxdg9w.jpeg https://cdn3.volusion.com/zbrk4.whyr9/v/vspfiles/photos/SK879-3.jpg

AY - Note very different 'A'
http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/519/medium/DT1_SL_Lettered.JPG

[webstar1000]

Looks like Gerald might be having a contest (no details yet) for tickets to the IT premier... oh how I can dream!!! In Bangor i assume as that was where the DT one was. EEEEKKKKK!!!

[Bev Vincent]

Good for Gerald -- I felt bad that he wasn't able to get to the Dark Tower premiere, and then all the people Sony brought to town visited his shop.

[wizardsrainbow]

David (wizardsrainbow) owns lettered Gunslinger AY (see this post in his collection thread: http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?1787-Book-Collection-Wizardsrainbow&p=90036&viewfull=1#post90036 ). So it looks like there were 52 lettered copies issued and they were designated A-Z and AA-AZ.

After seeing Alec's new copy, we discussed the different lettered copies that have been seen. It is widely reported that there are only 35 copies of the Gunslinger Lettered edition. Stephen King's own web site states this (although incorrectly lists as AA-II) and the likes of George Beahm also stated this in various publications about King and his works. Gerald has also stated only 35 copies in the past.

Why is this significant? Well if the sequencing was A-Z then AA, AB, AC, etc. then it would only have reached AI. David's book (the one shown in the Catalog) is AY. Also of all the books I have seen (AB, AC, AE, AF) they all share a similar rounded A, with a distinctive shorter left side to the A. David's AY book has a very different, sharp pointed 'A'.

Beahm, later amended the count to 52 in his subsequent book reprints, Gerald's website has also been amended to state 52. My theory is that there were originally 35 with a number of unnumbered (although still signed) copies held back by Grant. At a later date he added the remaining 17 (hence the difference in the lettering).

I have no evidence to support this and it's purely guesswork on my part. I would be interested if anyone (especially David) has any further information on this.

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/IMG_07732.JPG http://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-31wr48c6hg/images/stencil/2048x2048/products/862/1447/gunslinger_letter_4__44316.1498593611.jpghttp://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/922/IMG_4159_zps7lmxdg9w.jpeg https://cdn3.volusion.com/zbrk4.whyr9/v/vspfiles/photos/SK879-3.jpg

AY - Note very different 'A'
http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/519/medium/DT1_SL_Lettered.JPG

Very interesting theory and has some "validity" I think. I do NOT know a thing about original 35 and then 17 more later but the A's make some sense if you look at them, OR (and this fact I do know), sometimes different people did actual lettering/numbering of limiteds. Robert Weiner has told me that both he and Tom Canty numbered the same series and there is variability in how "Publisher's Copy" is written among other things....so ONE theory could be 52 were done but another person finished the remaining lettereds from the person who started.

[stroppygoblin]

Very interesting theory and has some "validity" I think. I do NOT know a thing about original 35 and then 17 more later but the A's make some sense if you look at them, OR (and this fact I do know), sometimes different people did actual lettering/numbering of limiteds. Robert Weiner has told me that both he and Tom Canty numbered the same series and there is variability in how "Publisher's Copy" is written among other things....so ONE theory could be 52 were done but another person finished the remaining lettereds from the person who started.

Thanks for responding David. So few of these lettered copies ever see light of day, photo's are few and far between. If another book after AI appeared (preferably close to the AY) it could clarify things one way or another.

[biomieg]

Gerald just listed a LETTERED NLR...

[webstar1000]

Gerald just listed a LETTERED NLR...

No way. Price?


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[HONKYTONKSMASH]

Gerald just listed a LETTERED NLR...

No way. Price?


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Price not listed. "Contact for further info"

[stroppygoblin]

Link (http://www.geraldwinters.com/the-new-lieutenants-rap-letter-f-signed-by-stephen-king/)

[jhanic]

I didn't know a lettered version even existed. Any idea on limitation?

John

[ICry4Oy]

Link (http://www.geraldwinters.com/the-new-lieutenants-rap-letter-f-signed-by-stephen-king/)



"Page not found" Did it sell already?

[webstar1000]

Link (http://www.geraldwinters.com/the-new-lieutenants-rap-letter-f-signed-by-stephen-king/)



"Page not found" Did it sell already?

He had numerous people interested. I assume it has sold:)

[Fsmdr]

Link (http://www.geraldwinters.com/the-new-lieutenants-rap-letter-f-signed-by-stephen-king/)



"Page not found" Did it sell already?

He had numerous people interested. I assume it has sold:)

What was the letter again? Was it Z?

[needfulthings]

LETTER "G" (was FIRESTARTER & EOTD)

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Link (http://www.geraldwinters.com/the-new-lieutenants-rap-letter-f-signed-by-stephen-king/)


"Page not found" Did it sell already?

He had numerous people interested. I assume it has sold:)

What was the letter again? Was it Z?


LETTER "G"

It was letter "F"

[needfulthings]

I see Mr.Winters also has a "CARRIE " Playbill for sale.There are two different versions of this Playbill One with the Black, red & white cover (This was the opening night Playbill Seating Capacity of the Virginia Theatre 1,275 so 1st Night Playbill run....1,300? 2nd version 4 nights 5,100? ) The Black & white ones were for all nights after . also pictured is the program booklet.
http://imageshack.com/a/img924/5614/hdr2xB.jpghttp://imageshack.com/a/img924/8997/PUknlA.jpg

[wizardsrainbow]

I met Gerald for the first time yesterday afternoon just before his shop closed. Very nice gentleman and I really liked his IT display in his storefront window. I've traded emails with Gerald for years...was nice to meet the man himself.

[Cwalker]

As a still newish collector, my first thought on reading about Gerald and David together in the same room was how much i would have loved being the lucky fly on that wall!!

[Bev Vincent]

As a still newish collector, my first thought on reading about Gerald and David together in the same room was how much i would have loved being the lucky fly on that wall!!

I've met Gerald a couple of times -- once at Necon and then again in his store last month. We had a nice chat and he showed me some of his cool, ultra-rare stuff.

[Roseannebarr]

As a still newish collector, my first thought on reading about Gerald and David together in the same room was how much i would have loved being the lucky fly on that wall!!

thats too funny, my first thought what is david doing in BANGOR and what are those two up too!!!

[Alec]

It is amazing to see that this thread celebrates its first birthday tomorrow and as far as I can see it has received three posts from "neo-trinity".
"Gerald Winters and Son, the new bookstore in Bangor".
I suppose it is easy to forget you have had a thread started for you.

[Johnny007]

I didn't know a lettered version even existed. Any idea on limitation?

John

I saw the lettered copy of NLR but I find it difficult to comprehend a lettered copy for this particular chap book. Weren't all the closest friends and family at the NYC party already? Why a lettered set when all the important people were there? I have not heard one peep about a lettered NLR in the 18 years since the party was held. It just seems "odd" that all of a sudden a lettered NLR appears with no price listed and was pulled within a day or two with no explanation or fanfare. I'm not saying that this was a forgery because I know of a lettered Tom Gordon and it seems to be the only one. So this stuff must exist. I'm just surprised that seemingly nobody had more questions about that lot.

[Randall Flagg]

It's pretty easy to assume there are 15 lettered copies of TGWLTG, as it says so right on the book. NLR is not so easy to be certain (in fact damn near impossible).

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/510/medium/TGWLTG_SL_rear.jpg

[Johnny007]

It's pretty easy to assume there are 15 lettered copies of TGWLTG, as it says so right on the book. NLR is not so easy to be certain (in fact damn near impossible).

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/510/medium/TGWLTG_SL_rear.jpg

Yes, Jerome. That was my oversight and I'm glad you set this straight so swiftly!

John

[Beverly Marsh]

I was in the shop recently chatting with Gerald when he told me he had to run three copies of Misery firsts to a person who was taking them over to Marsha. Of course I was intrigued as this is one I've wanted signed for some time but no more was said. The details of these books have since emerged on Geralds FB page. A local theater here in Bangor are putting on a production of Misery and these three, now flatsigned, books will be auctioned off over the course of three nights. I already had tickets to go on one of these nights so it's rather exciting. A little disappointing too since the auction is open to anyone, anywhere and not simply to theater goers. There goes my chance at one as I'm sure the bidding will get pretty high but here's a chance for all of you out there with lots of disposable income!
However, I am looking forward to the play since I missed the Broadway run.

[Cwalker]

Bad news out of Bangor.
https://bangordailynews.com/2018/01/16/news/bangor/water-main-break-shuts-down-businesses-on-main-street/

[Randall Flagg]

Hopefully there wasn't anything of great value stored in the basement.

[Cwalker]

Another video interviewing Gerald and showing some of the damage.
http://www.newscentermaine.com/video/news/now-bangor-water-main-break-disrupts-businesses/97-2875005

[Br!an]

That sucks!

[surly]

shit.

[stroppygoblin]

Some major losses it seems, including manuscripts. I sincerely hope Gerald is insured. It wont bring back these lost treasures, but it will at least allow Gerald to continue his business.

[zelig]

My goodness. I’m so sorry to hear of this. I just now read the other article about what was lost.

[Aronstg]

Another article. This sounds devastating. Sounds like 90% of the inventory was affected by the flooding.

http://bangordailynews.com/2018/01/16/business/original-stephen-king-manuscripts-among-items-ruined-by-downtown-water-main-break/

[Pasiuk57]

Horrible. Words can not describe it.

[fernandito]

Wow, that's devastating. Poor guy.

[bdwyer19]

That is horrible news. Such a shame.

[peripheral]

Devastating...

[Patrick]

Devastating. That poor guy.

[lotuz]

My heart is breaking :(

What an enormous personal loss, and a significant hit to the collecting community at large. Such a tragedy.

[wizardsrainbow]

sick to my stomach. i cannot even imagine. you spend years and years collecting rare items, some one of a kind and then this.....gone forever. simply heartbreaking

[Ari_Racing]

I'm speechless. Hope most of the unique stuff is safe and he's insured.

[jsweet]

That's just horrible. Feel so bad for him.

[wizardsrainbow]

When Gerald Winters moved to Bangor from Thailand a little more than a year ago, he had one goal: to open a rare book store with every conceivable edition of Stephen King’s books, including manuscripts and first editions — a collection that took him two decades to amass.

But Winters was dealt a devastating blow Tuesday morning when a water main burst on Main Street, almost directly in front of his business, Gerald Winters & Son.

The broken main flooded his basement with chest-high water, soaking the pages of dozens of first- and limited-edition King books, galleys, signed copies, prints in different languages, rare ephemera, and seven of King’s original manuscripts.

He kept the rarer items — some of which he which travelled all over the world to collect — in his store “to show people, not to sell them,” he said.

He estimates he lost about 2,000 books, and as many as seven of King’s original typed manuscripts, including, “Dolan’s Cadillac,” “Maximum Overdrive,” and “The Eyes of the Dragon.” He also collected rare and signed copies of works from J.R.R. Tolkien and George R.R. Martin, some that date back 80 years.

“You can’t replace this stuff,” he said quietly.

He had moved much of his inventory to the basement while he reorganized his shop. He estimates that only about 10 percent of his entire inventory was unscathed by the flood.

The majority of those books were floating in soggy boxes in his dank basement late Tuesday afternoon. The water had receded to the bottom steps, where he stood looking, trying to see if he could identify anything.

“There’s a first edition of ‘Pet Semetary’,” he said, pointing to the waterlogged book sprawled on top of a box near the back of his basement.

City workers responded to two water main breaks on Tuesday — one on Maine Avenue near the University of Maine at Augusta campus, and the other on Main Street. Crews on Main Street were expected to continue working throughout the night.

In front of Winters’ store, city workers had used an excavator to dig through the pavement to the water main, only to find that the source of the leak was actually under the sidewalk and not under the pavement, according to Bangor Water District Inspector Pat Smith.

The Standard Shoe Building, which houses Winters’ bookstore and Nocturnem Draft Haus, appeared to have sustained the most damage from the burst main, with at least six feet of water pooling in both basements at one point. Furnaces were also damaged in the flooding, knocking the heat out.

[Heather19]

Such horrible news. I can't even imagine :(

[Pasiuk57]

The world may never again see some of the rarities Gerald had.
Devastating.
Always my biggest fears-fire and water.
I'm speechless.

[east-tennessee]

Terrible news...so sad...:(

[Fsmdr]

God...what a travesty. It hurts to think about something like this could actually happen. I'm sure he has insurance, being a business...but as he said, some things are irreplaceable. My heart breaks about this.

[herbertwest]

Holy shit !

I know that it wont bring anything back, but I hope that he was insured properly + made scans or took pictures of his rarer items like manuscripts.

[Ben Mears]

Devastating news. I can't imagine the heartache Gerald is experiencing.

[Dano]

Terrible news. My condolences.

Dan

[Cook]

How horrible, I feel as if I just heard someone died.

[becca69]

2,000 books - devastating!

[herbertwest]

The worst part is that it's the basement, where Gerald probably thought that it would be the safest place of the shops, and where the most valuables items may be...

[frik]

Absolutely horrendous - so terribly sorry this has happened.

sk

[becca69]

The worst part is that it's the basement, where Gerald probably thought that it would be the safest place of the shops, and where the most valuables items may be...

Having an older house, I would never put anything in the basement, especially on the floor (that's before we finished it and put in a french drain, sump pump and dehumidifier).

[herbertwest]

The worst part is that it's the basement, where Gerald probably thought that it would be the safest place of the shops, and where the most valuables items may be...

Having an older house, I would never put anything in the basement, especially on the floor (that's before we finished it and put in a french drain, sump pump and dehumidifier).


I have some books in the garage, but always worry when I see some heavy rain : i dont think that there will be flood high enough, but I always wonder about the humidity, although I have some salts to absorbs some. But I always think there are not enough of those.
Luckily, I only store valueless books in the garage : mass paperbacks + DVDs in their box, although I dont know how those behaves with humid air

[MikeDuke]

Wow, that is so sad. All those one of a kind items. Something that may have taken you years, or a lifetime to collect, now gone. I really don't even know this person but it is a horrible thing to hear.

[andyg75]

Horrible. Just horrible. I really feel for Gerald at this point. Like others, I hope the insurance covers it, even if it won’t replace a collection he spent so much time and effort on

[Patrick]

Still sick to my stomach every time I think of this. I feel so bad for him.

[DoctorZaius]

A little part of us all drowned in that flooded basement. As collectors, we respect and appreciate the world of collecting and what it means to be a collector. The passion it takes, the time it takes, and to see it all gone in a blink, especially those original manuscripts, makes me want to vomit. I feel so much for Gerald.

[Bev Vincent]

Stephen King ‘horrified’ by loss of his manuscripts in bookstore flooding (http://bangordailynews.com/2018/01/17/arts-culture/stephen-king-horrified-by-loss-of-his-manuscripts-in-bookstore-flooding/)

“I’m horrified. As a book lover, my heart goes out to him,” King told the Bangor Daily News on Wednesday. “I will eventually reach out and see if I can help in any way.”

[Pasiuk57]

That would be GREAT of him to reach out!

[MikeDuke]

Wow, if King found a way to help, that would be phenomenal.

[wizardsrainbow]

agreed, would be great...let's see if it happens.

[cit74]

such horrible news for Gerald - I hope that he is doing okay after all of this - sorry to read the news just now

[Shannon]

This sucks. I don't even collect anymore but I feel as if someone just died. I'm so sorry this happened, Gerald.

[mattgreenbean]

When that list of ruined items comes out... :frown:

[Lookwhoitis]

devastating. I'm very sorry to hear of this.

every collector's worst nightmare.

[east-tennessee]

We should pull together and try to help the guy out in some way ........:rose:.....:huglove:
Hope he keeps the shop open..........:wink:

[firemonkey66]

Wow, that’s a serious kick in the teeth. Sorry to hear it. I’d blow a gasket if a drop of water touched most of the items in my collection, I can’t even imagine what Gerald is going through. What a loss.

[biomieg]

That's just horrible...

[Ben Staad]

It is obvious he has great passion for collecting and receives great joy from owning or viewing unique SK items. What a blow to him. He has my sympathies.

[Bev Vincent]

Per Ms. Mod: "Steve asked me to call Gerald, which I did yesterday, and offered to do a future book signing."

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Per Ms. Mod: "Steve asked me to call Gerald, which I did yesterday, and offered to do a future book signing."

I will attend (if allowed) to support Gerald.

Mulleins

[wolfehr]

This is devastating news and my thoughts and best wishes go out to Gerald :/ I can’t even imagine what he must be going though.


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[Kingfan24]

Per Ms. Mod: "Steve asked me to call Gerald, which I did yesterday, and offered to do a future book signing."

I will attend (if allowed) to support Gerald.

Mulleins

I’m with you on that!

[Roseannebarr]

Per Ms. Mod: "Steve asked me to call Gerald, which I did yesterday, and offered to do a future book signing."

I will attend (if allowed) to support Gerald.

Mulleins

I’m with you on that!


Thats great for Gerald! He was hoping to get a book signing! I PM'd Ms Mod suggesting the same thing! Congrats GERALD!

Horrible loss, but a great thing for KING to do.

[becca69]

Just a thought - maybe anyone who is able to attend that future signing bring Gerald a book? I know it won't replace the irreplaceable but it could build his inventory back up.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Just a thought - maybe anyone who is able to attend that future signing bring Gerald a book? I know it won't replace the irreplaceable but it could build his inventory back up.

Behind the scenes, I've already reached out to Gerald offering donations from Room 217.

Mulleins

[webstar1000]

Horrible news. I wish him the best for sure.

[herbertwest]

He posted on facebook :


Thank you everyone that has wrote to me offering condolences, assistance and their prayers. I will try my best to write to you all in due time, to thank you personally.

I am here 20 hours a day alone, trying to recover as many Stephen King and Tolkien pieces as I can, as my family are overseas and can only offer merits that they pray for. Please don't take my absence in replying as rude. I only go home to sleep a few hours and feed my pets.

Pennywise gave his best, and it was a truly devastating blow, but I will persevere, and fight on in the face of adversity. I have my family to thank for that.

Several original manuscripts have been recovered last night and
I am still looking for more.

God Bless.
Gerald

[Roseannebarr]

Just a thought - maybe anyone who is able to attend that future signing bring Gerald a book? I know it won't replace the irreplaceable but it could build his inventory back up.

Brilliant idea

[Randall Flagg]

Just a thought - maybe anyone who is able to attend that future signing bring Gerald a book? I know it won't replace the irreplaceable but it could build his inventory back up.

Brilliant idea
Perhaps it would be best to know what he lost before 25 people show up with a 1st edition Dreamcatcher.

[Roseannebarr]

Just a thought - maybe anyone who is able to attend that future signing bring Gerald a book? I know it won't replace the irreplaceable but it could build his inventory back up.

Brilliant idea
Perhaps it would be best to know what he lost before 25 people show up with a 1st edition Dreamcatcher.

I think she means for selling. not his personal collection. i would take 25 copies of dreamcatcher. i liked that story!

[_PCC_]

I am so saddened by this.

[becca69]

Just a thought - maybe anyone who is able to attend that future signing bring Gerald a book? I know it won't replace the irreplaceable but it could build his inventory back up.

Brilliant idea
Perhaps it would be best to know what he lost before 25 people show up with a 1st edition Dreamcatcher.

I think she means for selling. not his personal collection. i would take 25 copies of dreamcatcher. i liked that story!

I know lots of us have extras of many different titles and editions. I would think Gerald would be grateful with whatever book was given - if it's in nice, resaleable condition, that is.

[mikeC]

Per Ms. Mod: "Steve asked me to call Gerald, which I did yesterday, and offered to do a future book signing."

Steve rules.

[Tommy]

Bookstore owner recovers all but one Stephen King manuscript from flooded basement (http://bangordailynews.com/2018/01/19/news/bangor/bookstore-owner-recovers-all-but-one-stephen-king-manuscript-from-flooded-basement/)

[peripheral]

Bookstore owner recovers all but one Stephen King manuscript from flooded basement (http://bangordailynews.com/2018/01/19/news/bangor/bookstore-owner-recovers-all-but-one-stephen-king-manuscript-from-flooded-basement/)

That’s brilliant news... some relief in the horror...

[frik]

Fantastic! So very happy for you, Gerald!
So hope more exclusive items will be recovered!!

sk

[east-tennessee]

Bookstore owner recovers all but one Stephen King manuscript from flooded basement (http://bangordailynews.com/2018/01/19/news/bangor/bookstore-owner-recovers-all-but-one-stephen-king-manuscript-from-flooded-basement/)

Great to hear, maybe things are looking brighter.............:thumbsup:
I've reached out to Gerald to offer any help he might need.........:smile:

[Girlystevedave]

Bookstore owner recovers all but one Stephen King manuscript from flooded basement (http://bangordailynews.com/2018/01/19/news/bangor/bookstore-owner-recovers-all-but-one-stephen-king-manuscript-from-flooded-basement/)

That's some good news. :thumbsup:

[Cwalker]

And the nightmare never ends....
http://bangordailynews.com/2018/01/24/news/bangor/downtown-bangor-building-floods-for-the-second-time-in-a-week/

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

I've yet to read of a single item of King's output being lost to the King Community so far. Hopefully that will remain the case.

[Cwalker]

I believe I saw where the original Trucks manuscript was a total lose and that the EOTD (Napkins) manuscript was damaged.
With any luck, that will be all for the original stuff. I’m sure we will learn more as stuff dries out.

[Cordial Jim]

Ugh, what a tragic story. I feel so bad for him. I'm glad he was able to recover some stuff. What a nightmare!

[shaq]

I've yet to read of a single item of King's output being lost to the King Community so far. Hopefully that will remain the case.

If you are referring to manuscripts then I think one but as for other books, well, I read about 2000 which I cannot confirm but on Facebook there are a few things posted

https://www.facebook.com/GWandSonBooks/posts/990355357812675

https://www.facebook.com/GWandSonBooks/posts/991353844379493

[biomieg]

I hope all the one-of-kind proofs and the lettered Firestarter prototype survived...

[herbertwest]

Read on a report by BDN, that : one his manuscripts (7 if i recall correctly), only 1 was destroyed (TRUCKS) , and yes, THE NAPKINS was a bit damaged
> https://bangordailynews.com/2018/01/19/news/bangor/bookstore-owner-recovers-all-but-one-stephen-king-manuscript-from-flooded-basement/

"Other manuscripts that Winters found include parts I and II of “The Plant” and “Black House.” The novel, “The Eyes of the Dragon,” which had been stored in a separate wooden box, sustained some water damage, but Winters said it isn’t ruined."

[Beverly Marsh]

Here we go with more teasing. Anyone care to guess what might be up?
It looks as if perhaps May 2 might be involved? The Outsider comes out in May right? Or maybe the Sleeping Beauties PB? A possible signing? But he keeps mentioning IT as well....
I'd love to see King do a signing here in Bangor but will it be public or private? Gerald mentioned in the past that maybe he could get him to come into the store and sign books but it may not be public. With this basement flooding tragedy though maybe King would reconsider and do a public one. Or maybe I'm way off base. Just theories at this point.

[webstar1000]

Here we go with more teasing. Anyone care to guess what might be up?
It looks as if perhaps May 2 might be involved? The Outsider comes out in May right? Or maybe the Sleeping Beauties PB? A possible signing? But he keeps mentioning IT as well....
I'd love to see King do a signing here in Bangor but will it be public or private? Gerald mentioned in the past that maybe he could get him to come into the store and sign books but it may not be public. With this basement flooding tragedy though maybe King would reconsider and do a public one. Or maybe I'm way off base. Just theories at this point.

I follow Gerald closely as well on FB. I took his cryptic messages that he was announcing something on the 8th of the 2nd month... but darned if I know. lol He does mention IT yes... it also threw me off. I think King would do a signing sooner rather than later to help him get his shop back up on it's feet. Perhaps a public signing where you can bring your own books like a copy of IT? Hmmmm hard to say... but I will keep watching:) He does state that it is amazing news for King collectors... so we shall see. Good to see him so positive considering on his FB page though.

[Brian861]

The 8th of the 2nd month tells me that this ties in to Paul's announcement. No clue on the other as I'm not a follower.

[becca69]

The 8th of the 2nd month tells me that this ties in to Paul's announcement. No clue on the other as I'm not a follower.

I believe this would be a coincidence.

[webstar1000]

The 8th of the 2nd month tells me that this ties in to Paul's announcement. No clue on the other as I'm not a follower.

I believe this would be a coincidence.

Me too. I also see he has been mentioning David Morrell and Rambo. David is auctioning off a signed IT manuscript so pretty sure Gerald will be handling it. That’s looking promising to be a safe bet.


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[Alec]

At such a distressing time as this it is heartening to see so many people coming forward to help. It appears that some very valuable and unusual items are to be offered.
Let us hope that this makes the situation a little easier for Gerald Winters and Son. Certainly in monetary terms it will assist, however scars will be left from the loss of so many rare and unique books.
When the healing process starts, and normality begins to return, perhaps we may learn exactly what irreplaceable books have been lost to the King collecting world, then we can all appreciate just how much loss this dreadful incident has caused.

[webstar1000]

https://www.facebook.com/GWandSonBooks/posts/1000302650151279

[Alec]

My previous post was to highlight the kindness that people had shown and their efforts to help out. Also to establish what losses the book collecting world had suffered.

I cannot believe what I have just witnessed!

[Roseannebarr]

My previous post was to highlight the kindness that people had shown and their efforts to help out. Also to establish what losses the book collecting world had suffered.

I cannot believe what I have just witnessed!

I think i am buying dirt too. :)

We know he lost a manuscript of Trucks
A signed copy of Firestarter to his son.
A copy of the bachman books
4 copies of other King family books
A nice Jacket worn in a KIng movie?
Seats from the langoliers was damaged - status unknown....
Tons of shipping boxes

and maybe 2000 books (stock???).

I hope insurance covered alot of this.

But i am still buying PENNYWISE dirt. :)

[becca69]

The airplane seats have been restored. He posted a photo last week.

[Johnny007]

It is an unfortunate, shocking accident that Gerald is living through. I hope he overcomes all the negativity that has come with this.

But I keep asking to myself, why. unless your basement is climate-controlled and is completely in your control, why would anyone store their valuables in a basement? Let alone a basement that is probably more than 100 years old. Isn't there a worry about mildew or rodents? Just wondering..

Insurance should take care of the monetary losses incurred and even if he was uninsured, the city of Bangor should be on the hook for liability damages. Hope he heals quickly and completely...and it sounds like he is. But no dirt for me. Is it even legal to ship dirt?

John



My previous post was to highlight the kindness that people had shown and their efforts to help out. Also to establish what losses the book collecting world had suffered.

I cannot believe what I have just witnessed!

I think i am buying dirt too. :)

We know he lost a manuscript of Trucks
A signed copy of Firestarter to his son.
A copy of the bachman books
4 copies of other King family books
A nice Jacket worn in a KIng movie?
Seats from the langoliers was damaged - status unknown....
Tons of shipping boxes

and maybe 2000 books (stock???).

I hope insurance covered alot of this.

But i am still buying PENNYWISE dirt. :)

[amd013]

My understanding is that a lot of it was in the basement temporarily. I think he was worried about the pipes in the ceiling bursting. (although if that happened I imagine the water would run into the basement.)

[Beverly Marsh]

I don't understand the dirt thing. I mean if people really want it and it helps out then great but I honestly thought he was joking about this. I can go dig up dirt in Bangor and sell it. Or even better, in the summer, drive over to King's house every day after work and get some grass clippings( FYI: I would NEVER do this)and sell those. Am I missing something here? I'm not trying to be rude about this, especially if it helps him out but I honestly don't get it? I really hope the selling of dirt was not what all of these teasers have been leading up to....
I've bandied about theories with a friend and we came up with a theory that maybe buying the dirt is a ticket to something in the future.....

I haven't stopped by the store since this happened mainly because I don't know if he's even open or not now but maybe I'll venture over there this weekend and check in. The damage may not be as bad as we think. Only(but still a big loss) one manuscript gone but could have been far worse. A few signed books ( which is a few too many in any case!) but I haven't seen any pictures of limited editions being damaged. Hopefully most were salvaged or not involved. I know he had a complete DT S/L set in the store but those were in a case upstairs.

[St. Troy]

I think the dirt theoretically contains bits of lost rarities, while also providing those who wish to help financially a way to do so.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

If Pet Sematary was the manuscript buried in the mud, do you think......never mind.

Mulleins

[Beverly Marsh]

If Pet Sematary was the manuscript buried in the mud, do you think......never mind.

Mulleins

:emot-roflolmao:

[Ari_Racing]

If Pet Sematary was the manuscript buried in the mud, do you think......never mind.

Mulleins

Best comment EVER!! Positive Rep. given, of course!

[EXPLORER]

I think the dirt theoretically contains bits of lost rarities, while also providing those who wish to help financially a way to do so.

I figure it would be great to find just the right Plant to add to the soil and see how it grows.

[Merlin1958]

If Pet Sematary was the manuscript buried in the mud, do you think......never mind.

Mulleins

Best comment EVER!! Positive Rep. given, of course!



I think the dirt theoretically contains bits of lost rarities, while also providing those who wish to help financially a way to do so.

I figure it would be great to find just the right Plant to add to the soil and see how it grows.

Oh, you two should definitely begin a career in stand-up!!!!!!! lol lol lol

[Cook]

Not sure I’m understanding the dirt thing, is Gerald selling dirt and if so... why?
Is this a fundraiser? If so, what is it for? I’m guessing no insurance?
I’ve read a few pseudo statements about flood damage and Stephen King “items” damaged, manuscripts, maybe more than one.
Does anyone know what was actually lost.
Has Gerald posted any statements on the DT.org site?
I apologize for my lack of knowledge on this, this has been really confusing and would like clarification.
I apologize if this had already been cleared up, please feel free to point me to the thread.
Thanks

[Merlin1958]

^ Gerald, no longer posts here due to the tone and tenor of folks here in his opinion I've been advised.

[ICry4Oy]

Not sure I’m understanding the dirt thing, is Gerald selling dirt and if so... why?
Is this a fundraiser? If so, what is it for? I’m guessing no insurance?
I’ve read a few pseudo statements about flood damage and Stephen King “items” damaged, manuscripts, maybe more than one.
Does anyone know what was actually lost.
Has Gerald posted any statements on the DT.org site?
I apologize for my lack of knowledge on this, this has been really confusing and would like clarification.
I apologize if this had already been cleared up, please feel free to point me to the thread.
Thanks

The dirt thing is explained in a long post on his Facebook page.

[needfulthings]

LOOK AT THE BRIGHT SIDE....:wtf:IT COULD HAVE BEEN THE SEWER MAIN THAT BROKE & YOU WOULD HAVE TO ORDER YOU'R OWN LITTLE BOTTLE OF SHIT.:Shithead emoji: :lol:

[Fsmdr]

Not sure I’m understanding the dirt thing, is Gerald selling dirt and if so... why?
Is this a fundraiser? If so, what is it for? I’m guessing no insurance?
I’ve read a few pseudo statements about flood damage and Stephen King “items” damaged, manuscripts, maybe more than one.
Does anyone know what was actually lost.
Has Gerald posted any statements on the DT.org site?
I apologize for my lack of knowledge on this, this has been really confusing and would like clarification.
I apologize if this had already been cleared up, please feel free to point me to the thread.
Thanks

The dirt thing is explained in a long post on his Facebook page.

<----------------I think I am obtuse. Still not getting it, beside someone recommended that he sell dirt?

[herbertwest]

Not sure I’m understanding the dirt thing, is Gerald selling dirt and if so... why?
Is this a fundraiser? If so, what is it for? I’m guessing no insurance?
I’ve read a few pseudo statements about flood damage and Stephen King “items” damaged, manuscripts, maybe more than one.
Does anyone know what was actually lost.
Has Gerald posted any statements on the DT.org site?
I apologize for my lack of knowledge on this, this has been really confusing and would like clarification.
I apologize if this had already been cleared up, please feel free to point me to the thread.
Thanks

The dirt thing is explained in a long post on his Facebook page.

<----------------I think I am obtuse. Still not getting it, beside someone recommended that he sell dirt?

Odd people asked to buy some. He was confused, and then decided... why the hell not?
Blame weird people for his decision.

[Cook]

Not sure I’m understanding the dirt thing, is Gerald selling dirt and if so... why?
Is this a fundraiser? If so, what is it for? I’m guessing no insurance?
I’ve read a few pseudo statements about flood damage and Stephen King “items” damaged, manuscripts, maybe more than one.
Does anyone know what was actually lost.
Has Gerald posted any statements on the DT.org site?
I apologize for my lack of knowledge on this, this has been really confusing and would like clarification.
I apologize if this had already been cleared up, please feel free to point me to the thread.
Thanks

The dirt thing is explained in a long post on his Facebook page.

<----------------I think I am obtuse. Still not getting it, beside someone recommended that he sell dirt?

Odd people asked to buy some. He was confused, and then decided... why the hell not?
Blame weird people for his decision.

Ok, so I guess the dirt thing is somebody suggesting it, but what was actually lost?
I saw a few pictures of floating boxes and some muddy twisted paperbacks, some seats.
Is there somewhere posted pictures of these mass amounts of rare books that were lost.
Again, my apologies if this has been posted already but where are the pics? Are any posted on DT.org?

[Alec]

Apparently no images at all showing masses of rare books.
I did suggest in an earlier post that we could be informed, as collectors, of anything rare or unique that had been destroyed.
Supposedly he does not post here any longer due to the "tone and tenor" of people on this site.
As good an excuse as any I suppose.

[Cook]

Apparently no images at all showing masses of rare books.
I did suggest in an earlier post that we could be informed, as collectors, of anything rare or unique that had been destroyed.
Supposedly he does not post here any longer due to the "tone and tenor" of people on this site.
As good an excuse as any I suppose.

I also looked on facebook & can find nothing regarding massive book losses (picture wise), but I seem to remember somewhere somebody posted 2000 books destroyed.
I know this seems really negative on my part but seriously, why all the drama?
Don't get me wrong, I feel for the guy having flood damage and all but, is it my imagination or is this being overplayed a bit?
Something feels a little misleading here. I'm going out on a limb here to say gut level, based on what I've seen. "I cry foul".

[Ben Mears]

Apparently no images at all showing masses of rare books.
I did suggest in an earlier post that we could be informed, as collectors, of anything rare or unique that had been destroyed.
Supposedly he does not post here any longer due to the "tone and tenor" of people on this site.
As good an excuse as any I suppose.

I also looked on facebook & can find nothing regarding massive book losses (picture wise), but I seem to remember somewhere somebody posted 2000 books destroyed.
I know this seems really negative on my part but seriously, why all the drama?
Don't get me wrong, I feel for the guy having flood damage and all but, is it my imagination or is this being overplayed a bit?
Something feels a little misleading here. I'm going out on a limb here to say gut level, based on what I've seen. "I cry foul".

Not being overplayed. Gerald's place of business flooded twice in two weeks; the second time due to a faulty repair by Bangor Public Works. Had he not been in the shop when the pipes initially burst it likely would have been worse. For the most part Gerald's personal collection has been destroyed, his business decimated and the insurance isn't coming close to covering the value. In the face of this Gerald has displayed a positive attitude, professional demeanor and wry sense of humor. He isn't actively courting publicity; just updating information on his Facebook page. If there is a demand for bottled mud with manuscript scraps imbedded and it helps Gerald's business then good for him. Even better if he could get SK to sign the bottles. As Hank Peters wisely observed in 'Salem's Lot: "Tourists'll buy anything...they'd buy a bag of cowshit if it was an old bag."

[ICry4Oy]

Not being overplayed. Gerald's place of business flooded twice in two weeks; the second time due to a faulty repair by Bangor Public Works. Had he not been in the shop when the pipes initially burst it likely would have been worse. For the most part Gerald's personal collection has been destroyed, his business decimated and the insurance isn't coming close to covering the value. In the face of this Gerald has displayed a positive attitude, professional demeanor and wry sense of humor. He isn't actively courting publicity; just updating information on his Facebook page. If there is a demand for bottled mud with manuscript scraps imbedded and it helps Gerald's business then good for him. Even better if he could get SK to sign the bottles. As Hank Peters wisely observed in 'Salem's Lot: "Tourists'll buy anything...they'd buy a bag of cowshit if it was an old bag."


^THIS!!!

[Cook]

Apparently no images at all showing masses of rare books.
I did suggest in an earlier post that we could be informed, as collectors, of anything rare or unique that had been destroyed.
Supposedly he does not post here any longer due to the "tone and tenor" of people on this site.
As good an excuse as any I suppose.

I also looked on facebook & can find nothing regarding massive book losses (picture wise), but I seem to remember somewhere somebody posted 2000 books destroyed.
I know this seems really negative on my part but seriously, why all the drama?
Don't get me wrong, I feel for the guy having flood damage and all but, is it my imagination or is this being overplayed a bit?
Something feels a little misleading here. I'm going out on a limb here to say gut level, based on what I've seen. "I cry foul".

Not being overplayed. Gerald's place of business flooded twice in two weeks; the second time due to a faulty repair by Bangor Public Works. Had he not been in the shop when the pipes initially burst it likely would have been worse. For the most part Gerald's personal collection has been destroyed, his business decimated and the insurance isn't coming close to covering the value. In the face of this Gerald has displayed a positive attitude, professional demeanor and wry sense of humor. He isn't actively courting publicity; just updating information on his Facebook page. If there is a demand for bottled mud with manuscript scraps imbedded and it helps Gerald's business then good for him. Even better if he could get SK to sign the bottles. As Hank Peters wisely observed in 'Salem's Lot: "Tourists'll buy anything...they'd buy a bag of cowshit if it was an old bag."

Ok so if I have this right.. still no pictures & he keeps his "personal" collection of 2000 books in the basement of his shop?
We'll I'm convinced now, thanks for clearing that up. (not picking on you personally Ben Mears)
I know that sound sort sarcastic but the proof is in the pudding, not hearsay.
I think I read that there was a vast amount of photographs taken?
I still think there's some dancing around the edges here.

[Merlin1958]

This recent conversation probably go a long way towards explaining why the gentleman chooses to no longer post here!!! lol lol


Help or don't help. No reason to suggest improprieties and or subterfuge on the man. For the record, he has not personally posted anything here on this site requesting anything from anyone. Yet some folks here feel the need to disparage the man and/or the situation. I for one now get the "Tone & Tenor" reference!! lol Geez!!! lol lol

[Ben Mears]

Apparently no images at all showing masses of rare books.
I did suggest in an earlier post that we could be informed, as collectors, of anything rare or unique that had been destroyed.
Supposedly he does not post here any longer due to the "tone and tenor" of people on this site.
As good an excuse as any I suppose.

I also looked on facebook & can find nothing regarding massive book losses (picture wise), but I seem to remember somewhere somebody posted 2000 books destroyed.
I know this seems really negative on my part but seriously, why all the drama?
Don't get me wrong, I feel for the guy having flood damage and all but, is it my imagination or is this being overplayed a bit?
Something feels a little misleading here. I'm going out on a limb here to say gut level, based on what I've seen. "I cry foul".

Not being overplayed. Gerald's place of business flooded twice in two weeks; the second time due to a faulty repair by Bangor Public Works. Had he not been in the shop when the pipes initially burst it likely would have been worse. For the most part Gerald's personal collection has been destroyed, his business decimated and the insurance isn't coming close to covering the value. In the face of this Gerald has displayed a positive attitude, professional demeanor and wry sense of humor. He isn't actively courting publicity; just updating information on his Facebook page. If there is a demand for bottled mud with manuscript scraps imbedded and it helps Gerald's business then good for him. Even better if he could get SK to sign the bottles. As Hank Peters wisely observed in 'Salem's Lot: "Tourists'll buy anything...they'd buy a bag of cowshit if it was an old bag."

Ok so if I have this right.. still no pictures & he keeps his "personal" collection of 2000 books in the basement of his shop?
We'll I'm convinced now, thanks for clearing that up. (not picking on you personally Ben Mears)
I know that sound sort sarcastic but the proof is in the pudding, not hearsay.
I think I read that there was a vast amount of photographs taken?
I still think there's some dancing around the edges here.

Exactly what edge dancing is going on? You say yourself in a subsequent post that there is no reason to suggest improprieties yet that is what you just did. Gerald has not authored a single post on this site in reference to the flood yet his character and motives related to the detail of his losses are being questioned. Would a detailed list of items damaged or lost accompanied by photographic evidence be more palatable? He owes no explanation or itemized lists to anyone other than his insurance agent and the City of Bangor if he chooses to file a lawsuit.

[ICry4Oy]

This recent conversation probably go a long way towards explaining why the gentleman chooses to no longer post here!!! lol lol


Help or don't help. No reason to suggest improprieties and or subterfuge on the man. For the record, he has not personally posted anything here on this site requesting anything from anyone. Yet some folks here feel the need to disparage the man and/or the situation. I for one now get the "Tone & Tenor" reference!! lol Geez!!! lol lol


My thoughts exactly Bill! If I were Gerald, I wouldn't come near here either.

[Cwalker]

Gerald stated from the beginning that his shop was going to be as much a museum as a storefront. He did keep the majority of his personal collection there, so that fans could go there to see rare and one of a kind items. I was there several times and saw things that were never intended for sale but were on display for all to enjoy, learn about, and hear some wonderful stories.

And having been there, yes, I can easily see upwards of 2000 of Gerald’s personal items and sale items being in the basement.

[Merlin1958]

Apparently no images at all showing masses of rare books.
I did suggest in an earlier post that we could be informed, as collectors, of anything rare or unique that had been destroyed.
Supposedly he does not post here any longer due to the "tone and tenor" of people on this site.
As good an excuse as any I suppose.

I also looked on facebook & can find nothing regarding massive book losses (picture wise), but I seem to remember somewhere somebody posted 2000 books destroyed.
I know this seems really negative on my part but seriously, why all the drama?
Don't get me wrong, I feel for the guy having flood damage and all but, is it my imagination or is this being overplayed a bit?
Something feels a little misleading here. I'm going out on a limb here to say gut level, based on what I've seen. "I cry foul".

Not being overplayed. Gerald's place of business flooded twice in two weeks; the second time due to a faulty repair by Bangor Public Works. Had he not been in the shop when the pipes initially burst it likely would have been worse. For the most part Gerald's personal collection has been destroyed, his business decimated and the insurance isn't coming close to covering the value. In the face of this Gerald has displayed a positive attitude, professional demeanor and wry sense of humor. He isn't actively courting publicity; just updating information on his Facebook page. If there is a demand for bottled mud with manuscript scraps imbedded and it helps Gerald's business then good for him. Even better if he could get SK to sign the bottles. As Hank Peters wisely observed in 'Salem's Lot: "Tourists'll buy anything...they'd buy a bag of cowshit if it was an old bag."

Ok so if I have this right.. still no pictures & he keeps his "personal" collection of 2000 books in the basement of his shop?
We'll I'm convinced now, thanks for clearing that up. (not picking on you personally Ben Mears)
I know that sound sort sarcastic but the proof is in the pudding, not hearsay.
I think I read that there was a vast amount of photographs taken?
I still think there's some dancing around the edges here.

Exactly what edge dancing is going on? You say yourself in a subsequent post that there is no reason to suggest improprieties yet that is what you just did. Gerald has not authored a single post on this site in reference to the flood yet his character and motives related to the detail of his losses are being questioned. Would a detailed list of items damaged or lost accompanied by photographic evidence be more palatable? He owes no explanation or itemized lists to anyone other than his insurance agent and the City of Bangor if he chooses to file a lawsuit.

Well stated. Unfortunately, there seems to be a propensity for some folks on this site to cast aspersions on people without any direct and/or actual evidence. This is not the first time something like this has occurred and I am afraid will most likely not be the last time either. IDK why some people feel the need to sully a members reputation based on speculation or suspicion and not actual evidence or experience. I dare say they would not appreciate the same being done to them though.

[ICry4Oy]

I purchased from Gerald both well before and after he opened his store. He has always been most upfront and honest on every dealing. He is a genuinely nice man. I have zero doubts his losses are catastrophic in collecting terms.

[Merlin1958]

In response to an anonymous comment, yeah I have a big mouth, but I don't use it to talk shit about folks of which I have little or no in depth knowledge.

[jhanic]

I have had some dealings with Gerald when I was still actively collecting and have the utmost admiration for him. He's a great person.

John

[Randall Flagg]

FWIW, I don't see any harm in Cook's inquiries. This is the internet, and we area pretty sedate site. As book collector's, what we think is an uproar is generally just a meow.

[Cwalker]

Apparently I need to make a correction to my post 3 or 4 up. Someone (?) has indicated to me that Gerald has said the majority of collection is in Thailand and/or Ireland. If this is something he has said elsewhere then I stand corrected.

I also still stand by the rest of my post. :)

[Cook]

The reason I say anything is because this is a thread that allows me to.
I stated my feelings based on things I’ve read here and elsewhere.
I have no doubt he’s a great guy, great for him.
I’m not the one offering to sell dirt for my “items that were destroyed”
Let’s see them,
I’m a doubting Thomas, always have been. Yes, I freely admit that.
But I’m also not one to catch fish hooks in my lip either.
Just because someone post something on social media doesn’t make it so.
So what, I asked for visual proof.. big deal.

[amd013]

The reason I say anything is because this is a thread that allows me to.
I stated my feelings based on things I’ve read here and elsewhere.
I have no doubt he’s a great guy, great for him.
I’m not the one offering to sell dirt for my “items that were destroyed”
Let’s see them,
I’m a doubting Thomas, always have been. Yes, I freely admit that.
But I’m also not one to catch fish hooks in my lip either.
Just because someone post something on social media doesn’t make it so.
So what, I asked for visual proof.. big deal.

There were links to newspaper articles about it in more then one thread. Clicking on those links would have given you all the info you need to know about his loses, before implying he is drumming up false sympathy.

Having said that, not fond of the dirt thing. I shake my head when I hear about this kind of "memorabilia"

Also, I agree, I would like to see a list of the high ticket items lost. Not from a standpoint of "I don't believe him", but from a standpoint that I would like to know what the collecting community has lost. I mean in addition to him losing the ability to sell (or own), we have lost the ability to buy them. He is under no obligation to release such information, and we should respect his right to accept this loss in his time. But I hope he does release this info eventually, just the same.

BTW, just curious if anyone has tried to keep track of known SK limited editions that have been destroyed?

[Alec]

You are asking for visual proof.
Well we have seen images of the burst pipes, images of the owner in the basement, images of saturated boxes and images of dirt, what more do you want?
Oh I get it now, no images of valuable or rare books. Well you can't have everything can you!

[Ben Mears]

.
So what, I asked for visual proof.. big deal.

Then call (207.922.2062) or email (gw@geraldwinters.com) Gerald and ask him for the proof yourself.

[Cook]

.
So what, I asked for visual proof.. big deal.

Then call (207.922.2062) or email (gw@geraldwinters.com) Gerald and ask him for the proof yourself.

Lets all just take a chill pill, there's really no need to keep going on with this, If I'm wrong I'm wrong.

[St. Troy]

I’m not the one offering to sell dirt for my “items that were destroyed”
Let’s see them,
I’m a doubting Thomas...

This doesn't make you a doubting Thomas; it makes you an asshole.

[Randall Flagg]

I’m not the one offering to sell dirt for my “items that were destroyed”
Let’s see them,
I’m a doubting Thomas...

This doesn't make you a doubting Thomas; it makes you an asshole.

Calling Cook an asshole doesn't violate site rules, but IMO, you lowered yourself.

FWIW, I too have been a doubting Thomas (asshole?) On the whole issue.

I've avoided saying my opinions, mostly to allow members to guide the thread.

I defend Cook's right to be a doubting Thomas, and I defend (but disagree with you ) your right to call him or anyone else an asshole.

[St. Troy]

I’m not the one offering to sell dirt for my “items that were destroyed”
Let’s see them,
I’m a doubting Thomas...

This doesn't make you a doubting Thomas; it makes you an asshole.

Calling Cook an asshole doesn't violate site rules, but IMO, you lowered yourself.

:shrug:

I'm comfortable siding with the passionate King fan/collector/store owner who got driven away from your site by Cook's bullshit, but hey, maybe that's just me - you do you.

[jhanic]

I think a comment like that is highly inappropriate on this site. Just my two cents.

John

[St. Troy]

I think a comment like that is highly inappropriate on this site. Just my two cents.

John

Mine or Cook's?

[Merlin1958]

I’m not the one offering to sell dirt for my “items that were destroyed”
Let’s see them,
I’m a doubting Thomas...

This doesn't make you a doubting Thomas; it makes you an asshole.

Calling Cook an asshole doesn't violate site rules, but IMO, you lowered yourself.

FWIW, I too have been a doubting Thomas (asshole?) On the whole issue.

I've avoided saying my opinions, mostly to allow members to guide the thread.

I defend Cook's right to be a doubting Thomas, and I defend (but disagree with you ) your right to call him or anyone else an asshole.





I’m not the one offering to sell dirt for my “items that were destroyed”
Let’s see them,
I’m a doubting Thomas...

This doesn't make you a doubting Thomas; it makes you an asshole.

Calling Cook an asshole doesn't violate site rules, but IMO, you lowered yourself.

:shrug:

I'm comfortable siding with the passionate King fan/collector/store owner who got driven away from your site by Cook's bullshit, but hey, maybe that's just me - you do you.


I think a comment like that is highly inappropriate on this site. Just my two cents.

John

I don't even have an opinion on this subject. How's that for "shit you don't see every day"? lol lol lol



Not taking sides or passing judgement, but I'm not sure how I feel finding out I'm not the only "Asshole" running around here!! lol lol

[jhanic]

St Troy's. It's okay to think it, but...

John

[Johnny007]

Cook +1

Those with rare and large questions would like to know what has been lost to the collecting world. It could/would have an impact on the value of their own collection. Did 3 Asbestos Firestarters get destroyed? How about the 3-4 copies of NLR? What about the UK Green Mile proofs? Did the damage from the water main break completely obliterate 2,000 books? Obliterate them to the point where the guy needs to sell dirt?

For all the White Knights here, I see two sides. A side that seems genuine and has been a net positive to this community. But I also see a thin-skinned person who shares when the he sees the advantage to do so. Tippy4 made a comment/offered an opinion about an ebay auction where Gerald was offering a rare, but incomplete NLR set. Gerald got so upset that he pulled the auction because of the comment. That's what he said publicly. He actually sold it to a member here at the same time or before Tippy4's post. I believe Rabbit Trick set him off, too, for little or no good reason.

I stand behind my statements above and earlier. I feel sorry for the man -- just not to the level that others are. He has at least 2 legal courses to recoup his losses. I hope he's pursuing them as vigorously as he is selling the dirt.

[Ari_Racing]

I'd be interested in knowing what got destroyed just to have a record. Same way I'd love to know if it's true or an urban legend that a Firestarter Lettered got destroyed in a fire, or Dolan's story on the incredible collection present in a building that got fire in NYC.

Don't we have a "DT S/L number, who's got 'em?" thread and a catalog with details with all this kind of info?

I understand Cook's doubts, even when I don't share 'em (I'd not buy dirt but I find it funny and cool if he can raise money by selling it). I've dealt with Gerald very few times and find myself very comfortable talking to him. I don't have reasons to doubt him, but some of his previous posts sounded like they had a little "make up", such as the Thinner new copies or IT new copies posts. But it's his store, his social media accounts, and he can do whatever he wants with 'em. And I really would love to visit his store next time I travel to Bangor (if that ever happens again, which I think it will :D )

And I agree with John. No need to call someone an asshole for having doubts and posting 'em here. It's just a discussion amount adults. :)

[St. Troy]

If nothing else, at least I can savor the amusement of watching the TDT wagons circle.

[Randall Flagg]

I'm comfortable siding with the passionate King fan/collector/store owner who got driven away from your site by Cook's bullshit, but hey, maybe that's just me - you do you.
Please provide proof that Gerald was "driven away" from "my site" (BTW, of course it's my site, but I do my best to treat it as a member's site) by Cook.

Why don't you search Gerald's posts here? No where have I seen a post from him being upset with his treatment here.

[Randall Flagg]

If nothing else, at least I can savor the amusement of watching the TDT wagons circle.
See, we are a value added site.
Feel free to donate next year to keep the site robust and ad free, yet full of amusement.

[ICry4Oy]

If nothing else, at least I can savor the amusement of watching the TDT wagons circle.
See, we are a value added site.
Feel free to donate next year to keep the site robust and ad free, yet full of amusement.


:rofl:




You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Randall Flagg again.
Well dammit I tried!

[St. Troy]

Please provide proof that Gerald was "driven away" from "my site"...

Ah, so I am responsible for providing proof for my positions - got it. :lol:

Of course, I have none; I was just going by this:


...Supposedly he does not post here any longer due to the "tone and tenor" of people on this site.

...but sure, maybe everyone is lying to us.

[St. Troy]

If nothing else, at least I can savor the amusement of watching the TDT wagons circle.
See, we are a value added site.
Feel free to donate next year to keep the site robust and ad free, yet full of amusement.

If this was an attempt to call me out for not donating, I'll be up front about it: no, I didn't donate. Yes, you have a great site and I appreciate what you and others put into it. My position is such that, while I do buy a book now and again, I won't be paying to support any websites any time soon (it does not reflect on any bad feeling toward the site etc.).

[St. Troy]

In order to be as accurate as possible, I'll mention I just found this:


^ Gerald, no longer posts here due to the tone and tenor of folks here in his opinion I've been advised.

...so this is actually the "source material," as it is.

[ICry4Oy]

In order to be as accurate as possible, I'll mention I just found this:


^ Gerald, no longer posts here due to the tone and tenor of folks here in his opinion I've been advised.

...so this is actually the "source material," as it is.


Bill could have been referring to post #81 in this thread. ..........I dunno..... :shrug:

[St. Troy]

For those that haven't seen this (which webstar1000 originally posted), this is from Gerald's Facebook:


For as long as I could pray that by some miracle, in a hidden corner of the basement, there existed a magical alcove that would protect the seventh, and last, Stephen King manuscript, sadly that was not the case.

Now that the space has been completely cleared and sanitized, ready for the rebuild, there is not one square inch that has yet to be examined. The one manuscript that did not survive was Steve’s 1973 short story “TRUCKS”, which was the basis for his 1986 directorial debut “MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE”.

I was happy that I could count it among my collection of Steve’s works for many years, and if there was any place that I wish it could be laid to rest, it would be in Bangor, where it was created, just before Steve published “CARRIE”.

As a little side-note on the crippling effects of water on paper, I would like to share with you a few things I learned during this ordeal. In a typical suburban home, your water pressure is set to a range between 40 and 60 psi. That’s a comfortable level. If you ever stood under a shower at 80 psi, you would certainly know it, because your skin would start to feel like it was being attacked with hundreds of acupuncture needles. Exceed 100 psi, and your body and appliances would start to understand what high pressure feels like.

When a water main pipe bursts, it exceeds over 200 psi+, and anything in its direct path, will be forever altered. You can cut a 3 foot tree in half with a water spray set to that level. Paper has no chance of surviving. I found hard covers floating, with the glue stripped off the spines. Cardboard boxes in the direct path became mulch, and everything inside became a simple glob, that was indistinguishable from each other.

The archival box that was designed to survive an earthquake was torn open and all its contents floated around a 1200 sq ft swimming pool for seven hours. When the water was finally turned off, I had to wait a day before I could even investigate as I needed electricians to determine it was safe to be down there.
After first finding the lid to the manuscript box, the entire area was photographed extensively to try and locate any papers that could have belonged to it. A total of 5 pages were located a few hours later, but mostly all ink had been stripped off the paper at that stage. A few key words were all that remained to determine it was the first draft and respective screenplay, and that was it.
When the papers were carefully removed to be sent away for possible salvage, I scooped up all the mud, dirt, papers, and anything else that was in the vicinity of the manuscript, for future archival purposes. If I ever thought I would be scooping up sand and mud and storing them in buckets, I would have laughed, but that’s what I did. The manuscript was gone, but the destruction remained.My first thought was to create a new window display in the coming months, to seal the moment for history, and I may still do that. While I was cleaning up the shop, a lovely couple from down South was up visiting Bangor, and asked me could they buy some of the dirt. I was dumbfounded, as I couldn’t understand why someone would buy dirt, but then again, I know some people sell sweat, and even air, so I guess anything is possible.

I couldn’t sell her my dirt because the request was the first I had ever heard, but after I thought about it a bit more, allowing fans of Stephen King a chance to own the dirt that destroyed a manuscript, and even possibly having a part of the manuscript contained within, may be something that people would want. To me it was a sad remnant of a horrible day, but to people around the world, maybe a piece of the Derry Flood of 2018 is something that would appeal to them. Maybe they will feel like they have a connection, even if they have never visited.
So, I am going to be bottling it in a limited number of test tubes, corking it, packaging it with a little story and photo, and selling it for a nominal price in the coming months. That’s right, I moved to Bangor to sell books, but that plan will be augmented with a little piece of Derry manuscript dirt in the near future. While I didn’t want to ask people to send me money when the flood occurred, as I didn’t feel comfortable with that, if you would like to help me out, and have a little souvenir in the process, please buy my dirt.

God Bless.
Gerald

There are pics at the link that I don't know how to copy here:

https://www.facebook.com/GWandSonBooks/posts/1000302650151279

[Randall Flagg]

As blind as I am, I don't see where post #81 in this thread intimates that Cook has driven Gerald away from the site.
Post #81 shows Gerald as thin skinned about anyone who questions his auctions or sales makes him upset.


Last option, open up a brick & mortar bookstore in 2017 or later, and try your luck there.

Well, Gerald opened up the store, and tried his luck.

Perhaps he is unlucky.

[Roseannebarr]

Cook. You must not worry. Everyone has one. Some are just bigger than others. I enjoy reading your posts and value your contributions to the site😍. You are 1 of my favorites. I don’t know how to send positive rep but I will do so by dmoji😘💕😍❤️❤️😍😍😘🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡💀

[St. Troy]

Well, Gerald opened up the store, and tried his luck.

Perhaps he is unlucky.

Funny stuff, RF. Floods are hilarious, aren't they?

[Tommy]

Those pics could be of any flood damaged basement though. I don't know this guy from Adam but if 2000 collectible King books have been destroyed, wouldn't there be some definite pics of actual books? I mean maybe the flood did disintegrate the books and nothing could be savaged but wouldn't there be some recognizable ruins somewhere? Something? I'm playing devil's advocate here, I don't really know one way or another. I feel for the guy under any circumstance though.

[Roseannebarr]

Well, Gerald opened up the store, and tried his luck.

Perhaps he is unlucky.

Funny stuff, RF. Floods are hilarious, aren't they?

Not as funny as king tweeting about republicans riding a train and hitting a garbage truck. I don’t think Noah finds floods funny either, but he was prepared.

[Randall Flagg]

Well, Gerald opened up the store, and tried his luck.

Perhaps he is unlucky.

Funny stuff, RF. Floods are hilarious, aren't they?
No, but occasionally they can be amusing.

[Merlin1958]

I’m not the one offering to sell dirt for my “items that were destroyed”
Let’s see them,
I’m a doubting Thomas...

This doesn't make you a doubting Thomas; it makes you an asshole.

Calling Cook an asshole doesn't violate site rules, but IMO, you lowered yourself.

FWIW, I too have been a doubting Thomas (asshole?) On the whole issue.

I've avoided saying my opinions, mostly to allow members to guide the thread.

I defend Cook's right to be a doubting Thomas, and I defend (but disagree with you ) your right to call him or anyone else an asshole.





I’m not the one offering to sell dirt for my “items that were destroyed”
Let’s see them,
I’m a doubting Thomas...

This doesn't make you a doubting Thomas; it makes you an asshole.

Calling Cook an asshole doesn't violate site rules, but IMO, you lowered yourself.

:shrug:

I'm comfortable siding with the passionate King fan/collector/store owner who got driven away from your site by Cook's bullshit, but hey, maybe that's just me - you do you.



In order to be as accurate as possible, I'll mention I just found this:


^ Gerald, no longer posts here due to the tone and tenor of folks here in his opinion I've been advised.

...so this is actually the "source material," as it is.


Bill could have been referring to post #81 in this thread. ..........I dunno..... :shrug:


Bill was referring to actual personal correspondence outside this forum FWIW.

[Randall Flagg]

Bill was referring to actual personal correspondence outside this forum FWIW.

Bill is Occasionally an asshole, but I still like the guy...:grouphug:

[St. Troy]

No, but occasionally they can be amusing.

To some people, apparently.

[St. Troy]

Not as funny as king tweeting about republicans riding a train and hitting a garbage truck.

Yes, endangered Republicans are an absolute scream.

[T-Dogz_AK47]

Not as funny as king tweeting about republicans riding a train and hitting a garbage truck.

Yes, endangered Republicans are an absolute scream.

You made me LOL at that. :lol:

Rep points for you.... :thumbsup:

[T-Dogz_AK47]

Not as funny as king tweeting about republicans riding a train and hitting a garbage truck.

Yes, endangered Republicans are an absolute scream.

You made me LOL at that. :lol:

Rep points for you.... :thumbsup:

Okay, so your rep points are in the bank....

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to St. Troy again.

[needfulthings]

What I want to know is.....
Just who are you calling an asshole.
https://imageshack.com/a/img922/475/g2tB8E.jpg

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Not as funny as king tweeting about republicans riding a train and hitting a garbage truck.

Yes, endangered Republicans are an absolute scream.

That happened miles from my house and we knew the gentlemen killed in the truck. I don't find Kings comment funny at all, in fact, he's lost some respect and still is losing respect after his so called apology.

It's a very small world when you stop and think about it.

Mulleins

[ICry4Oy]

As blind as I am, I don't see where post #81 in this thread intimates that Cook has driven Gerald away from the site.
Post #81 shows Gerald as thin skinned about anyone who questions his auctions or sales makes him upset.



My bad.....didn't mean to imply it was Cook who drove him away. Most of Gerald's anger in that post was directed at other members. But I believe (maybe?) it was the last time Gerald posted.


Seems like this horse has been dead and beaten....

[Roseannebarr]

Not as funny as king tweeting about republicans riding a train and hitting a garbage truck.

Yes, endangered Republicans are an absolute scream.

That happened miles from my house and we knew the gentlemen killed in the truck. I don't find Kings comment funny at all, in fact, he's lost some respect and still is losing respect after his so called apology.

It's a very small world when you stop and think about it.

Mulleins

The guy in the truck did not die. That's what king was told. It only gets mmore confusing from there. Horse. Beaten. Back to the bookstore

[Brian861]

Not taking sides or passing judgement, but I'm not sure how I feel finding out I'm not the only "Asshole" running around here!! lol lol

:lol: :rofl:

Banked points for you, Bill! I haven't been enough of a slut, yet :)

[St. Troy]

Those pics could be of any flood damaged basement though.

I've heard of "pics or it didn't happen," but not "pics notarized by Stephen King's personal attorney or it didn't happen."

This thread is becoming truly priceless.

[Cook]

For those that haven't seen this (which webstar1000 originally posted), this is from Gerald's Facebook:

[QUOTE]For as long as I could pray that by some miracle, in a hidden corner of the basement, there existed a magical alcove that would protect the seventh, and last, Stephen King manuscript, sadly that was not the case.

Now that the space has been completely cleared and sanitized, ready for the rebuild, there is not one square inch that has yet to be examined. The one manuscript that did not survive was Steve’s 1973 short story “TRUCKS”, which was the basis for his 1986 directorial debut “MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE”.

I was happy that I could count it among my collection of Steve’s works for many years, and if there was any place that I wish it could be laid to rest, it would be in Bangor, where it was created, just before Steve published “CARRIE”.

As a little side-note on the crippling effects of water on paper, I would like to share with you a few things I learned during this ordeal. In a typical suburban home, your water pressure is set to a range between 40 and 60 psi. That’s a comfortable level. If you ever stood under a shower at 80 psi, you would certainly know it, because your skin would start to feel like it was being attacked with hundreds of acupuncture needles. Exceed 100 psi, and your body and appliances would start to understand what high pressure feels like.

When a water main pipe bursts, it exceeds over 200 psi+, and anything in its direct path, will be forever altered. You can cut a 3 foot tree in half with a water spray set to that level. Paper has no chance of surviving. I found hard covers floating, with the glue stripped off the spines. Cardboard boxes in the direct path became mulch, and everything inside became a simple glob, that was indistinguishable from each other.

The archival box that was designed to survive an earthquake was torn open and all its contents floated around a 1200 sq ft swimming pool for seven hours. When the water was finally turned off, I had to wait a day before I could even investigate as I needed electricians to determine it was safe to be down there.
After first finding the lid to the manuscript box, the entire area was photographed extensively to try and locate any papers that could have belonged to it. A total of 5 pages were located a few hours later, but mostly all ink had been stripped off the paper at that stage. A few key words were all that remained to determine it was the first draft and respective screenplay, and that was it.
When the papers were carefully removed to be sent away for possible salvage, I scooped up all the mud, dirt, papers, and anything else that was in the vicinity of the manuscript, for future archival purposes. If I ever thought I would be scooping up sand and mud and storing them in buckets, I would have laughed, but that’s what I did. The manuscript was gone, but the destruction remained.My first thought was to create a new window display in the coming months, to seal the moment for history, and I may still do that. While I was cleaning up the shop, a lovely couple from down South was up visiting Bangor, and asked me could they buy some of the dirt. I was dumbfounded, as I couldn’t understand why someone would buy dirt, but then again, I know some people sell sweat, and even air, so I guess anything is possible.

I couldn’t sell her my dirt because the request was the first I had ever heard, but after I thought about it a bit more, allowing fans of Stephen King a chance to own the dirt that destroyed a manuscript, and even possibly having a part of the manuscript contained within, may be something that people would want. To me it was a sad remnant of a horrible day, but to people around the world, maybe a piece of the Derry Flood of 2018 is something that would appeal to them. Maybe they will feel like they have a connection, even if they have never visited.
So, I am going to be bottling it in a limited number of test tubes, corking it, packaging it with a little story and photo, and selling it for a nominal price in the coming months. That’s right, I moved to Bangor to sell books, but that plan will be augmented with a little piece of Derry manuscript dirt in the near future. While I didn’t want to ask people to send me money when the flood occurred, as I didn’t feel comfortable with that, if you would like to help me out, and have a little souvenir in the process, please buy my dirt.

God Bless.
Gerald

Hey St. Troy.. "Asshole" is back in the house :emot-butt:

Did you even bother to read what you posted?

It's a great story.. emphasize story here.
Where the hell did this come from: "When a water main pipe bursts, it exceeds over 200 psi+" - this is plain & simple [I]exaggerated horseshit. (Read up on firefighting and why they use pumps) 80-100 is closer to the norm (125 psi is usually considered borderline dangerous)

And again I must have missed part of the story somewhere of the great and all powerful "Derry Flood of 2018". This is genuinely a real question.. Where exactly did this 200+ psi water-main break, was it in the street or was it directly above his 2000 books?

"Cardboard boxes in the direct path became mulch, and everything inside became a simple glob, that was indistinguishable from each other" - This sentence hurts my brain, seriously, it doesn't make sense.

"I couldn’t sell her my dirt because the request was the first I had ever heard" - really, wait.. why again?

"allowing fans of Stephen King a chance to own the dirt that destroyed a manuscript" - Is this sorta like touching the hem of his garment?

"That’s right, I moved to Bangor to sell books, but that plan will be augmented with a little piece of Derry manuscript dirt in the near future" "If you would like to help me out, and have a little souvenir in the process, please buy my dirt"

Maybe for a small donation he'll let you roll around naked in the mud that once held the complete sacred manuscript that king once touched with his hands.. ooh wouldn't that be exciting.
Or wait, maybe you could drink the mud in a sort-of religious ceremony chanting "trucks trucks trucks"

Now I don't know about all of the of white knights here but he had me at "For as long as I could pray" & "miracle" & "magical" & "but to people around the world"

But god bless people...

[St. Troy]

Now I don't know about all of the of white knights here...

Is "white knight" really the only alternative to sharing your "9-11 truther" approach to Gerald's account of events?

[St. Troy]

The guy in the truck did not die. That's what king was told.

This excuse for King (and I'm not saying Roseannebarr intends it as such; I don't know) is interesting, because it suggests that the only objectionable part was the person who died, while deriving enjoyment from a train accident befalling those with whom one disagrees politically is to be expected.

[Merlin1958]

For those that haven't seen this (which webstar1000 originally posted), this is from Gerald's Facebook:

[QUOTE][I]For as long as I could pray that by some miracle, in a hidden corner of the basement, there existed a magical alcove that would protect the seventh, and last, Stephen King manuscript, sadly that was not the case.

Now that the space has been completely cleared and sanitized, ready for the rebuild, there is not one square inch that has yet to be examined. The one manuscript that did not survive was Steve’s 1973 short story “TRUCKS”, which was the basis for his 1986 directorial debut “MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE”.

I was happy that I could count it among my collection of Steve’s works for many years, and if there was any place that I wish it could be laid to rest, it would be in Bangor, where it was created, just before Steve published “CARRIE”.

As a little side-note on the crippling effects of water on paper, I would like to share with you a few things I learned during this ordeal. In a typical suburban home, your water pressure is set to a range between 40 and 60 psi. That’s a comfortable level. If you ever stood under a shower at 80 psi, you would certainly know it, because your skin would start to feel like it was being attacked with hundreds of acupuncture needles. Exceed 100 psi, and your body and appliances would start to understand what high pressure feels like.

When a water main pipe bursts, it exceeds over 200 psi+, and anything in its direct path, will be forever altered. You can cut a 3 foot tree in half with a water spray set to that level. Paper has no chance of surviving. I found hard covers floating, with the glue stripped off the spines. Cardboard boxes in the direct path became mulch, and everything inside became a simple glob, that was indistinguishable from each other.

The archival box that was designed to survive an earthquake was torn open and all its contents floated around a 1200 sq ft swimming pool for seven hours. When the water was finally turned off, I had to wait a day before I could even investigate as I needed electricians to determine it was safe to be down there.
After first finding the lid to the manuscript box, the entire area was photographed extensively to try and locate any papers that could have belonged to it. A total of 5 pages were located a few hours later, but mostly all ink had been stripped off the paper at that stage. A few key words were all that remained to determine it was the first draft and respective screenplay, and that was it.
When the papers were carefully removed to be sent away for possible salvage, I scooped up all the mud, dirt, papers, and anything else that was in the vicinity of the manuscript, for future archival purposes. If I ever thought I would be scooping up sand and mud and storing them in buckets, I would have laughed, but that’s what I did. The manuscript was gone, but the destruction remained.My first thought was to create a new window display in the coming months, to seal the moment for history, and I may still do that. While I was cleaning up the shop, a lovely couple from down South was up visiting Bangor, and asked me could they buy some of the dirt. I was dumbfounded, as I couldn’t understand why someone would buy dirt, but then again, I know some people sell sweat, and even air, so I guess anything is possible.

I couldn’t sell her my dirt because the request was the first I had ever heard, but after I thought about it a bit more, allowing fans of Stephen King a chance to own the dirt that destroyed a manuscript, and even possibly having a part of the manuscript contained within, may be something that people would want. To me it was a sad remnant of a horrible day, but to people around the world, maybe a piece of the Derry Flood of 2018 is something that would appeal to them. Maybe they will feel like they have a connection, even if they have never visited.
So, I am going to be bottling it in a limited number of test tubes, corking it, packaging it with a little story and photo, and selling it for a nominal price in the coming months. That’s right, I moved to Bangor to sell books, but that plan will be augmented with a little piece of Derry manuscript dirt in the near future. While I didn’t want to ask people to send me money when the flood occurred, as I didn’t feel comfortable with that, if you would like to help me out, and have a little souvenir in the process, please buy my dirt.

God Bless.
Gerald

Hey St. Troy.. "Asshole" is back in the house :emot-butt:



Hey, that's "Asst. Asshole" for you. I believe I am the reigning champ here, no? lol lol


I haven't been following the tragedy super close, and it is a tragedy no doubt. I converse with, Gerald from time to time and he is a very good guy IMHO, if a little thin skinned. Anyway, has anyone considered that that the "Dirt Thing" may just be a tongue in cheek way of couching donations to the situation? May have even been suggested by a well wisher. Personally I just don't see real collectors purchasing these things for collecting purposes. I can see folks buying them solely to show support for a fellow collector and a bad situation.

Just two cents from the resident "Sr. Asshole" around these here parts, lol. I don't see the big deal here. Either you want to help out or you don't. Certainly your perogative solely. Folks can't be considering these as bonafide collectibles can they? I view it more along the lines of purchasing tire tracks from "Christine", keys to room 217 or dirt from the old "Yankee Stadium" Cool conversation pieces that show you helped out is all. Of course that's just one man's opinion. Now I'm off to throw the gentleman a few bucks to show my support.

[Frankie]

Where the hell did this come from: "When a water main pipe bursts, it exceeds over 200 psi+" - this is plain & simple exaggerated horseshit. (Read up on firefighting and why they use pumps) 80-100 is closer to the norm (125 psi is usually considered borderline dangerous)


http://www.watts.com/pages/learnAbout/reducingValves.asp?catId=64


Pressure in water supply mains can exceed 200psi.

[herbertwest]

Ok, who gives a fuck in the end about what pressure it was and weither or not he did a mistake?

[Hunchback Jack]

Personally, if a burst water main destroyed 2000 items of my personal collection that I had moved the the basement temporarily, my priorities would be:
- trying to recover what I could
- figuring out what insurance would and would not cover
- trying to clean up the whole mess so I could reopen for business
- trying not to blame myself for having the stuff in the basement in the first place
- keeping well-wishers informed of what was going on, as time permitted

Posting photographic proof of the extent of the damage so complete strangers can be assured that I'm not lying would not be on that list, let alone near the top.

HBJ

[Frankie]

Ok, who gives a fuck in the end about what pressure it was and weither or not he did a mistake?

Because if he has been misinformed about the specificities of water pressure it obviously means he is lying about the whole thing.

[Ben Mears]

Personally, if a burst water main destroyed 2000 items of my personal collection that I had moved the the basement temporarily, my priorities would be:
- trying to recover what I could
- figuring out what insurance would and would not cover
- trying to clean up the whole mess so I could reopen for business
- trying not to blame myself for having the stuff in the basement in the first place
- keeping well-wishers informed of what was going on, as time permitted

Posting photographic proof of the extent of the damage so complete strangers can be assured that I'm not lying would not be on that list, let alone near the top.

HBJ

+1