Best Comedy Tournament: Final

[mae]

This is it.


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/49/Monty_python_and_the_holy_grail_2001_release_movie _poster.jpg/220px-Monty_python_and_the_holy_grail_2001_release_movie _poster.jpg
Monty Python and the Holy Grail (1975) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python_and_the_Holy_Grail)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG1PlkURjxE

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a8/Vacation1983.jpg/220px-Vacation1983.jpg
National Lampoon's Vacation (1983) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Lampoon%27s_Vacation)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAXU--BJWYY

[Tommy]

Holy Grail

[mae]

Holy Grail

One the one hand, easy choice. A pure classic, work of art. Very funny. On the other hand, Vacation is extremely funny as well, and well-done as a film, too. It's at 95% on RT (though Holy Grail is at 97%). I'm definitely leaning toward Holy Grail, of course, but Vacation deservedly made it to the Final.

[Tommy]

Holy Grail

One the one hand, easy choice. A pure classic, work of art. Very funny. On the other hand, Vacation is extremely funny as well, and well-done as a film, too. It's at 95% on RT (though Holy Grail is at 97%). I'm definitely leaning toward Holy Grail, of course, but Vacation deservedly made it to the Final.

True. I just ask myself which one would I watch right now and Holy Grail was it.

BTW, thanks for running this poll, it's been fun! :thumbsup:

[mae]

BTW, thanks for running this poll, it's been fun! :thumbsup:

I had a blast. Hope y'all had fun as well.

[webstar1000]

I had a lot of fun too guys. Great job! Good fun for sure.... even though I wanted to see a different winner! lol

[mae]

My personal winner was eliminated in Round 1 :cry:

[fernandito]

I'll fart in the general direction of anyone who doesn't vote for Holy Grail!

[webstar1000]

My personal winner was eliminated in Round 1 :cry:

What was that?

[mae]

Bringing Up Baby

[needfulthings]

"NONE SHALL PASS!"
http://imageshack.com/a/img661/3076/qXm5Qj.jpg

[webstar1000]

Bringing Up Baby

Mine was Dumb and Dumber

[Girlystevedave]

Again...always Holy Grail. :wub:

[Jimimck]

Holy Grail all the way!

And yes, this poll has been a lot of fun!

(who is going to do a horror one??)

[mae]

Uh, we already did it :unsure:

[Jimimck]

Uh, must have missed that. What won?

[T-Dogz_AK47]

Uh, must have missed that. What won?

Alien.

Which basically meant that a Sci-Fi movie won the Horror tournament. :rolleyes:

[T-Dogz_AK47]

As predicted, I see that this is a really close final... LOL! :lol:

Maybe the final would have been a lot tighter had the votes not been manipulated in the Quarter Final, hmmmm? :evil:

I also thought some of the groupings in the Octo Final were a little shady, but hey, you gotta protect your favourite movies right? LOL! :rolleyes:

[Jimimck]

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http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/images/Take5_fluid/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Jimimck http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/images/Take5_fluid/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?p=926517#post926517)
Uh, must have missed that. What won?



Alien.

Which basically meant that a Sci-Fi movie won the Horror tournament. :rolleyes:

???? How did Aliens even get included to begin with? Thats not a horror.

Do you remember what was second?

[T-Dogz_AK47]

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http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/images/Take5_fluid/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Jimimck http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/images/Take5_fluid/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?p=926517#post926517)
Uh, must have missed that. What won?



Alien.

Which basically meant that a Sci-Fi movie won the Horror tournament. :rolleyes:

???? How did Aliens even get included to begin with? Thats not a horror.

Do you remember what was second?


Psycho came second.

But then Psycho isn't a Horror film either. It's a Thriller. :doh:

[Jimimck]

So ah, do we need to do an actual horror one lol!

[mae]

As predicted, I see that this is a really close final... LOL! :lol:

Maybe the final would have been a lot tighter had the votes not been manipulated in the Quarter Final, hmmmm? :evil:

I also thought some of the groupings in the Octo Final were a little shady, but hey, you gotta protect your favourite movies right? LOL! :rolleyes:

As I explained a few times in the main tournament thread, the groupings are determined by the percentage numbers the movies get. Then they're all ranked from first to last, and then seeded from first to last as well.

[T-Dogz_AK47]

As predicted, I see that this is a really close final... LOL! :lol:

Maybe the final would have been a lot tighter had the votes not been manipulated in the Quarter Final, hmmmm? :evil:

I also thought some of the groupings in the Octo Final were a little shady, but hey, you gotta protect your favourite movies right? LOL! :rolleyes:

As I explained a few times in the main tournament thread, the groupings are determined by the percentage numbers the movies get. Then they're all ranked from first to last, and then seeded from first to last as well.

Yeah? So why pair Monty Python and Holy Grail against Groundhog Day in the Octo Final? Both films won their previous respective group with a very high percentage of the vote, yet other films with fewer votes get paired off with an easier group. Smacks of favouritism if you ask me... :orely:

Or how about the way you manipulated the final vote tally to put National Lampoon's Vacation through to the Quarter Final? That was more than a little shady... :doh:thumbsdownsmall

You should run for office in Nigeria, my friend. I hear they like a rigged election over there... LOL! LOL! :rolleyes:

[Still Servant]

I'm just happy Meet the Fockers didn't win.

[T-Dogz_AK47]

I'm just happy Meet the Fockers didn't win.

LOL! :lol:

[mae]

The Octofinals were eight polls of three titles. Again, all films are ranked by an aggregate percentage number gained throughout the tournament. Prior to each new round the titles are ranked first to last and seeded accordingly. So with eight polls, the first eight titles (1 through 8) are seeded first, then the next eight, then the last eight. So the first poll has titles rated 1, 9, and 17, the second poll has titles rated 2, 10, 18. And so on. It's a simple and fair process I think.

[mae]

As for what you call "manipulation", I firmly believe I have the right to rescind my vote as poll-runner in order to break the tie. I did this during the flags tournament and that was fine then. I'm not giving an extra vote to a movie, I'm taking my vote away.

[fernandito]

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http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/images/Take5_fluid/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Jimimck http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/images/Take5_fluid/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?p=926517#post926517)
Uh, must have missed that. What won?



Alien.

Which basically meant that a Sci-Fi movie won the Horror tournament. :rolleyes:

???? How did Aliens even get included to begin with? Thats not a horror.

Do you remember what was second?


Um.

Alien is most definitely a horror film.

Actually, it's considered one of the greatest horror films of all time.

[fernandito]

I don't agree with rescinding a vote after the poll has closed, but I don't see a problem with the way the groups were organized.

As someone whom has run his fair share of tournaments it is impossible to group them in a way that will please everyone.

[mae]

Think of it like this: I was considering rescinding my vote if the poll closed with a tie, I just didn't post it in time.

[Jimimck]

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http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/images/Take5_fluid/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Jimimck http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/images/Take5_fluid/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?p=926517#post926517)
Uh, must have missed that. What won?



Alien.

Which basically meant that a Sci-Fi movie won the Horror tournament. :rolleyes:

???? How did Aliens even get included to begin with? Thats not a horror.

Do you remember what was second?


Um.

Alien is most definitely a horror film.

Actually, it's considered one of the greatest horror films of all time.

Um, maybe in your opinion but it really is a Sci fi film. A very good Sci fi film yes, but a sci fi film none the less.

[fernandito]

Let's see.
A few of the results that "best horror films of all time" google search reveals.


The American Film Institute's Top 100 Greatest horror movies ever (#6 btw)
http://www.afi.com/100years/thrills.aspx

From Rotten Tomatoes
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/guides/best-horror-movies/#

From Time out London .com
http://www.timeout.com/london/film/best-horror-films-list#tab_panel_10

**they even have a listing of various experts in the genre whom helped form that list^ which you can find here
http://www.timeout.com/london/film/the-100-best-horror-films-contributors?package_page=44205

Rolling Stone reader polls
http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/lists/readers-poll-best-horror-movies-of-all-time-20141008/the-haunting-20141008

Slant magazine
http://www.slantmagazine.com/features/article/100-greatest-horror-films-of-all-time/P8


And so on, and so forth...

[Jimimck]

Yeah I'm not sure a lot of list from the Internet is going to convince me Aliens is a Horror film and not a Sci Fi film....

[needfulthings]

TRY BOTH!:doh:
http://imageshack.com/a/img538/5049/FN6HWt.jpg

[Still Servant]

Yeah I'm not sure a lot of list from the Internet is going to convince me Aliens is a Horror film and not a Sci Fi film....

You can't just add an "s". You're now discussing two completely different films. Yes, Alien is a horror film and has been considered to be one by many people for many years. In fact, it's both a horror film and a Sci-fi film. Gasp! It can be both. Aliens, however, you have a much better argument. It's way more action than anything else and I don't personally consider that one horror.

On IMDB, Alien is considered Horror/Sci-fi and Aliens is considered Action/Sci-fi/adventure. But you can't just change the film you're arguing about.

[T-Dogz_AK47]

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http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/images/Take5_fluid/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Jimimck http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/images/Take5_fluid/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?p=926517#post926517)
Uh, must have missed that. What won?



Alien.

Which basically meant that a Sci-Fi movie won the Horror tournament. :rolleyes:

???? How did Aliens even get included to begin with? Thats not a horror.

Do you remember what was second?


Psycho came second.

But then Psycho isn't a Horror film either. It's a Thriller. :doh:




Um.

Alien is most definitely a horror film.

Actually, it's considered one of the greatest horror films of all time.




Um, maybe in your opinion but it really is a Sci fi film. A very good Sci fi film yes, but a sci fi film none the less.


Let's see.
A few of the results that "best horror films of all time" google search reveals.


The American Film Institute's Top 100 Greatest horror movies ever (#6 btw)
http://www.afi.com/100years/thrills.aspx



The American Film Institute's Top 100 Greatest Horror Movies may have Alien ranked at #6, but consider some of the other films also included in that same list...

#8. The French Connection Really? :orely:

#10. Raiders of the Lost Ark Yeah, sure. :nope:

#11. The Godfather WTF!!! :wtf:

#19. The Great Escape Hahaha!!! :lol:

#23. Lawrence of Arabia Now they are just taking the piss... :doh:

#25. Titanic Actually this was truly horrific, just not in the right way... LOL! :P

#27. Star Wars Pffffft!!!! :emot-roflolmao:

#37. Casablanca Priceless!!! :rolleyes:

#39. Die Hard ROFL!!! :rofl:

Somehow, I don't think the AFI's list is particularly accurate... LOL! LOL!



From Time out London .com
http://www.timeout.com/london/film/best-horror-films-list#tab_panel_10

**they even have a listing of various experts in the genre whom helped form that list^ which you can find here
http://www.timeout.com/london/film/the-100-best-horror-films-contributors?package_page=44205


Well according to Time Out, Alien is ranked #5 in their list of best Horror films.

However, Alien is ranked #3 in Time Out's Greatest Sci-Fi films of all time (just behind Blade Runner and 2001: A Space Odyssey), so I'm assuming those same "experts" believe Alien to be a better Sci-Fi than a Horror movie...:evil:

http://www.timeout.com/london/film/the-100-best-sci-fi-movies-10-1?package_page=45597 (http://www.timeout.com/london/film/the-100-best-sci-fi-movies-10-1?package_page=45597)

[mae]

That AFI list is the 100 Most Thrilling Movies, not Horror.

[fernandito]

However, Alien is ranked #3 in Time Out's Greatest Sci-Fi films of all time (just behind Blade Runner and 2001: A Space Odyssey), so I'm assuming those same "experts" believe Alien to be a better Sci-Fi than a Horror movie...:evil:

What we're getting at here is whether or not Alien is considered a horror - it is, obviously. We can debate numbers among the pantheon after.

I guess I'll never understand peoples raging hardon over discrediting Alien as a horror film. It's pretty sad.

[mae]

And this isn't even the thread to do it in. Plus, this was already debated during the Horror Tournament.

[fernandito]

Well at least the debate is more interesting than the current final hahaha

[Still Servant]

I'd love to see that AFI link. I have a feeling Pablo is right, there's no way AFI would make a horror list with French Connection on it.

EDIT: Pablo is indeed right. It's AFI 100 most thrilling films.

[needfulthings]

[QUOTE=Still Servant;926937]I'd love to see that AFI link. I have a feeling Pablo is right, there's no way AFI would make a horror list with French Connection on it.

ONLY IF THEY PICKED THEIR TOES IN POUGHKEEPSIE.:scared:

[Jimimck]

Yeah I'm not sure a lot of list from the Internet is going to convince me Aliens is a Horror film and not a Sci Fi film....

You can't just add an "s". You're now discussing two completely different films. Yes, Alien is a horror film and has been considered to be one by many people for many years. In fact, it's both a horror film and a Sci-fi film. Gasp! It can be both. Aliens, however, you have a much better argument. It's way more action than anything else and I don't personally consider that one horror.

On IMDB, Alien is considered Horror/Sci-fi and Aliens is considered Action/Sci-fi/adventure. But you can't just change the film you're arguing about.

Purely a typo on my part

[needfulthings]

1st CLUE IS ON THE COVER.
http://imageshack.com/a/img540/9449/fViPrr.jpg

[mae]

Getting things back on track, the Final poll will close in two days, so if you haven't voted yet, please do so. Although Holy Grail has a healthy 9-point lead.

[fernandito]

I think this rice is cooked.

I'll get the ticker tape parade ready. :)

[Still Servant]

This is like one of those boring Super Bowls where one team is blown out early and nobody has anything to look forward to but the guacamole and the commercials.

[needfulthings]

One thing for sure.....There won't be any RABBIT STEW.

[fernandito]

This is like one of those boring Super Bowls where one team is blown out early and nobody has anything to look forward to but the guacamole and the commercials.

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[Tommy]

My top four would have been:

Modern Times
Annie Hall
Blazing Saddles
Bringing Up Baby

Any two pairings of these for me is impossible to pick :beat:

(and fifth would have been Groundhog Day )

Anyone else care to share their personal picks for top Four (or Five) Comedies from the ones nominated? :excited:

[mae]

Mine would be close, maybe:

1. Bringing Up Baby
2. Duck Soup
3. Some Like It Hot
4. Groundhog Day
5. Annie Hall

[Tommy]

Mine would be close, maybe:

1. Bringing Up Baby
2. Duck Soup
3. Some Like It Hot
4. Groundhog Day
5. Annie Hall

Duck Soup probably would be my No. 6 :)

[T-Dogz_AK47]

These films are probably not mainstream enough to gain votes from people (which is why I didn't bother nominating them), but I do think they are amongst the greatest comedy films out there...

1. Sideways (2004).
2. I soliti ignoti (1958).
3. Sátántangó (1994).
4. La Grande Vadrouille (1966).
5. Modern Times (1936).

[mae]

I need to check out La Grande Vadrouille, but Big Deal on Madonna Street is indeed great.

[Girlystevedave]

I posted early in the tournament that we should just cancel all voting and give the title to Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
So, yeah. I'm a bit happy over these scores. :nana:

[Tommy]

I posted early in the tournament that we should just cancel all voting and give the title to Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
So, yeah. I'm a bit happy over these scores. :nana:

You have a way with polls! :tongue:

[Odetta]

I actually think Life of Brian is the superior Monty Python movie... But that's just me!

[Still Servant]

These films are probably not mainstream enough to gain votes from people (which is why I didn't bother nominating them), but I do think they are amongst the greatest comedy films out there...

1. Sideways (2004).
2. I soliti ignoti (1958).
3. Sátántangó (1994).
4. La Grande Vadrouille (1966).
5. Modern Times (1936).

Sideways would have gotten some votes.

[Tommy]

I posted early in the tournament that we should just cancel all voting and give the title to Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
So, yeah. I'm a bit happy over these scores. :nana:

What would be your top five comedies from the nominee list?

[Jimimck]

I actually think Life of Brian is the superior Monty Python movie... But that's just me!

Would have been interesting if they were in the final together...

[Girlystevedave]

I posted early in the tournament that we should just cancel all voting and give the title to Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
So, yeah. I'm a bit happy over these scores. :nana:

What would be your top five comedies from the nominee list?

Monty Python and the Holy Grail (obviously :P )
Clerks
Kingpin
Anchorman
Spaceballs


Yours? :)

[mae]

And so just like that, our Best Comedy Film of All Time is: Monty Python and the Holy Grail!

I'm sure some expected this result (I didn't), and some wish other movies had made it this far, but it's the journey that's the point. Hopefully, many of the participants discovered some titles (especially during the nominations and the early rounds) that they'll seek out now, since some of us deemed them to be worthy enough.

To cap things off, here's an appropriately timed video, from about a month back:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqLXTsJ9QDs

[fernandito]

A worthy champion!

[Girlystevedave]

Heck yes! :clap:

[becca69]

I approve! Ni! I'm off to find a shrubbery...

[Tommy]

I posted early in the tournament that we should just cancel all voting and give the title to Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
So, yeah. I'm a bit happy over these scores. :nana:

What would be your top five comedies from the nominee list?

Monty Python and the Holy Grail (obviously :P )
Clerks
Kingpin
Anchorman
Spaceballs


Yours? :)

Read my post #50 in this thread :biggrin:

[Merlin1958]

These films are probably not mainstream enough to gain votes from people (which is why I didn't bother nominating them), but I do think they are amongst the greatest comedy films out there...

1. Sideways (2004).
2. I soliti ignoti (1958).
3. Sátántangó (1994).
4. La Grande Vadrouille (1966).
5. Modern Times (1936).

Thank you for not saying "Withnail & I". I owe you one.