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Chooch
05-02-2008, 09:09 AM
I agree with you Cala Wolf....did you receive your book from Romania?

wizardsrainbow
05-02-2008, 09:19 AM
/QUOTE]

Ebay is becoming a wasteland of wankers - present company excluded, of course

WANKERS! I love the British Isle's terminology for some things.

<sounds like a fun idea for a new thread...slangs/expressions/idioms>

Mr. Rabbit Trick
05-03-2008, 12:00 AM
Ebay is becoming a wasteland of wankers

I agree. http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/5241/jerkitpa4.gif

Randall Flagg
05-03-2008, 07:22 AM
Did Grant truly ship DTI shrinkwrapped?

Stephen King - The Gunslinger - SEALED - Grant TRUE 1st (http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-The-Gunslinger-SEALED-Grant-TRUE-1st_W0QQitemZ360047159663QQihZ023QQcategoryZ29223Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)




Sealed In Publishers Shrinkwrap - Never Opened!

Room 217 Caretaker
05-03-2008, 07:24 AM
Did Grant truly ship DTI shrinkwrapped?

Stephen King - The Gunslinger - SEALED - Grant TRUE 1st (http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-The-Gunslinger-SEALED-Grant-TRUE-1st_W0QQitemZ360047159663QQihZ023QQcategoryZ29223Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)




Sealed In Publishers Shrinkwrap - Never Opened!


Yes. I own one.

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

Randall Flagg
05-03-2008, 07:28 AM
Thanks Mulleins.

Bidding is already at $100 for this:

Tommyknockers-Signed (http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-Signed-1st-Edition-The-Tommyknockers_W0QQitemZ270232321212QQihZ017QQcateg oryZ377QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

http://i15.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/ec/a0/0658_1.JPG

And $90 for this:
Blaze-signed (http://cgi.ebay.com/stephen-king-AUTOGRAPHED-book-of-BLAZE-very-rare_W0QQitemZ170214780457QQihZ007QQcategoryZ377QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

http://i16.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/ed/61/2c53_1.JPG

Brice
05-03-2008, 09:02 AM
Did Grant truly ship DTI shrinkwrapped?

Stephen King - The Gunslinger - SEALED - Grant TRUE 1st (http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-The-Gunslinger-SEALED-Grant-TRUE-1st_W0QQitemZ360047159663QQihZ023QQcategoryZ29223Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)




Sealed In Publishers Shrinkwrap - Never Opened!


This is the part of this auction that caught my attention:


Autographed Slip cut from a Limited Signed Edition Included with this Treasure.

Who the hell would do this? And why? :(

Randall Flagg
05-03-2008, 09:21 AM
This is the part of this auction that caught my attention:


Autographed Slip cut from a Limited Signed Edition Included with this Treasure.

Who the hell would do this? And why? :(

The same type of person who cut up the Fantasy & Science Fiction S/L's to "make" a special Bachman book.

Brice
05-03-2008, 09:30 AM
Oh...a moron. :)

Patrick
05-03-2008, 11:31 AM
According to his Q&A at the end of the listing, at least this seller is not the one who cut up a signed book.

I give him credit for at least posting the Q's into the listing.

jhanic
05-06-2008, 10:15 AM
"Signed" Hearts in Atlantis--with a Certificate of Authenticity! (http://cgi.ebay.com/Limited-Edition-Signed-Stephen-King-Hearts-in-Atlantis_W0QQitemZ140229514459QQihZ004QQcategoryZ2 1537QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

I don't know if this seller is THAT naive or not. Given the short time the auction is active (I think it was a 24-hour auction) I tend to think the seller knows exactly what he's offering. I've never heard of the originator of the COA, Collector's Choice Inc. But I don't follow those things anyway.

John

Randall Flagg
05-06-2008, 04:33 PM
I wonder what number it is?:orely:

Randall Flagg
05-10-2008, 05:32 PM
I hope I have not reposted this.
Any thoughts?: (I should say I think it sucks)

Stephen King Autographed Dolores Claiborne Book -RARE (http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-Autographed-Dolores-Claiborne-Book-RARE_W0QQitemZ110250911131QQihZ001QQcategoryZ377QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

http://waywardhorsefoundation.com/ebay/kingbook713a.jpg

carlosdetweiller
05-10-2008, 06:02 PM
I hope I have not reposted this.
Any thoughts?: (I should say I think it sucks)



It is definitely a forgery.

jhanic
05-10-2008, 06:17 PM
I agree.

John

MonteGss
05-10-2008, 06:55 PM
I'm no expert...but that looks like a photocopy of a signature. :lol:

Hutch
05-10-2008, 07:01 PM
I hope I have not reposted this.
Any thoughts?: (I should say I think it sucks)

Stephen King Autographed Dolores Claiborne Book -RARE (http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-Autographed-Dolores-Claiborne-Book-RARE_W0QQitemZ110250911131QQihZ001QQcategoryZ377QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

http://waywardhorsefoundation.com/ebay/kingbook713a.jpg

reported days ago

Smashman
05-13-2008, 11:24 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=170218786774&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=007

He has sold FOUR of these in the last two weeks. Nobody will actually receive their book! Opinions? :orely:

carlosdetweiller
05-14-2008, 03:42 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=170218786774&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=007

He has sold FOUR of these in the last two weeks. Nobody will actually receive their book! Opinions? :orely:

I, too, thought that was Autrey. Caveat emptor.

e_taylor
05-14-2008, 05:13 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=170218786774&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=007

He has sold FOUR of these in the last two weeks. Nobody will actually receive their book! Opinions? :orely:

And if they do it likely won't be Es... he seems to be suggesting you not open the "brown paper wrap" in order to keep in in "mint" condition. That MIGHT hold true with shrink wrap.... but I think much less so with what I am assuming is essentially a brown paper bag.

wizardsrainbow
05-14-2008, 05:38 AM
Smash! Welcome! Long time no hear. Come and stay for awhile.

Fsmdr
05-14-2008, 08:44 AM
Hello Smash. Good to see you here.

Rahfa
05-14-2008, 09:21 AM
The 'Es' seller has one positive feedback from a previous sale, but that could be one legit sale to bait other bidders, or just a phony sale

...how about the "please allow two to three weeks for shipping?"

Def. sketchy...and the whole brown wrapping is a scam waiting to happen too.

Fsmdr
05-17-2008, 09:02 PM
What do you guys think about this signature?. The price it went for made me question it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/BAG-OF-BONES-1st-SIGNED-STEPHEN-KING-hcdj-Carrie-author_W0QQitemZ380026545956QQihZ025QQcategoryZ377 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

carlosdetweiller
05-18-2008, 03:56 AM
What do you guys think about this signature?. The price it went for made me question it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/BAG-OF-BONES-1st-SIGNED-STEPHEN-KING-hcdj-Carrie-author_W0QQitemZ380026545956QQihZ025QQcategoryZ377 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

It looks OK to me.

jhanic
05-18-2008, 09:00 AM
This is one of the main reasons I'm hesitant to buy signed trade editions over eBay. I'm just not sure enough to say it's real or not. Unless the seller has some decent provenance regarding the item, I pass on it.

John

Fsmdr
05-18-2008, 09:14 AM
Well, looks like someone got an excellent deal on that signed book.

tippy4
05-18-2008, 10:14 AM
The signature is good. I was the 2nd highest bidder.

I believe it was the inscription (and the economy) that led to the bargain this buyer got.

Plus if you are a seller never have an auction end on a Saturday. People are out playing...not sitting in front of their computers!

Fsmdr
05-22-2008, 08:33 AM
This does not look right. The buyer is a long time collector too.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-From-a-Buick-8-1st-1st-SIGNED_W0QQitemZ200224324230QQihZ010QQcategoryZ377 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

wizardsrainbow
05-22-2008, 08:35 AM
This does not look right. The buyer is a long time collector too.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-From-a-Buick-8-1st-1st-SIGNED_W0QQitemZ200224324230QQihZ010QQcategoryZ377 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Definitely Not. The loop is way too shaky.

jhanic
05-22-2008, 08:39 AM
Bidding closed. They probably pulled it.

John

carlosdetweiller
05-22-2008, 09:25 AM
Bidding closed. They probably pulled it.

John

I think it is OK. The bidding is over because the auction ran for 7 days. The sig does look a little shaky, though. I've got one signed on the same day in my collection. When I get home tonight I will compare.

Rahfa
05-22-2008, 10:28 AM
Yet one more problem with these flatsigned sigs...I - think - it's okay, but you're right that that loop looks pretty shaky...but it probably would for a rushed signing maybe...but, it also does not look like the Buick 8 sig I have from the Jacobs Burn signing right around that time...so, what are you gonna do? For the price, probably worth a shot if the bidder is certain it's legit.

shnnrc01
05-22-2008, 10:49 AM
i think it looks bad ,guys.

EXPLORER
05-22-2008, 11:10 AM
Yet one more problem with these flatsigned sigs...I - think - it's okay, but you're right that that loop looks pretty shaky...but it probably would for a rushed signing maybe...but, it also does not look like the Buick 8 sig I have from the Jacobs Burn signing right around that time...so, what are you gonna do? For the price, probably worth a shot if the bidder is certain it's legit.

Everytime I read things here, it drives me crazy and makes me want to get down to business and complete the room here scheduled to be my library.
it pains me not to have all my books readily available so I can go and compare when thins come up. I have boooks from the Barnes and Noble event mentioned here which I too attended. I also have books froms the Jacob Burns event. One of the books (I have three) that we obtained at the Burns event where King pre-signed has a signature unlike any you see. I doubt most pepole would believe it to be legit. It was signed in print letters rather than script. I have always wanted to post a picture of it here. The part that is grinding at me is that a large part of my collection is still packed and not at this residence. Someday soon I need to go and retrieve so I can share.

jhanic
05-22-2008, 11:13 AM
6One of the books (I have three) that we obtained at the Burns event where King pre-signed has a signature unlike any you see. I doubt most pepole would believe it to be legit. It was signed in print letters rather than script. I have always wanted to post a picture of it here.

Please post that autograph. You're completely right--that would be a unique signature. I'm not doubting, either, that you got it just the way you state. I just wonder if some else at that event may have "signed" it instead of King.

John

carlosdetweiller
05-22-2008, 11:30 AM
6One of the books (I have three) that we obtained at the Burns event where King pre-signed has a signature unlike any you see. I doubt most pepole would believe it to be legit. It was signed in print letters rather than script. I have always wanted to post a picture of it here.

Please post that autograph. You're completely right--that would be a unique signature. I'm not doubting, either, that you got it just the way you state. I just wonder if some else at that event may have "signed" it instead of King.

John

Yes, I would like to see a picture of that too. I have never seen King print his signature before.

EXPLORER
05-22-2008, 11:32 AM
6One of the books (I have three) that we obtained at the Burns event where King pre-signed has a signature unlike any you see. I doubt most pepole would believe it to be legit. It was signed in print letters rather than script. I have always wanted to post a picture of it here.

Please post that autograph. You're completely right--that would be a unique signature. I'm not doubting, either, that you got it just the way you state. I just wonder if some else at that event may have "signed" it instead of King.

John

I have always wanted to find a way to confirm it. Would be nice if there was a way of reaching someone who could speak to it and perhaps this is the place. I have been meaning to compare to his name as he wrote in print on the title for his old Explorer.

carlosdetweiller
05-22-2008, 02:14 PM
Here is my dated signature in FROM A BUICK 8, dated the same day as the eBay auction in question. I am 99+% sure it is legit.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/carlosdetweiller/Buick8sig.jpg

Here is the one from the auction in question.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/carlosdetweiller/forgedbuick8.jpg

There are enough differences to make me seriously question the validity on the eBay auction copy.

And another thing that bothers me.....if tiff_loves_mark so much why is she selling all his King books?

Randall Flagg
05-22-2008, 02:34 PM
Looking at the second signature I would say it's a pretty good fake. Without the comparison, one could believe it to be a "shaky" sig, but seeing them both the "9" in the date, King's beginning "S", and the loop over are appreciably different.

Matt
05-22-2008, 02:38 PM
if tiff_loves_mark so much why is she selling all his King books?

:rofl:

sorry, that was damn funny

Randall Flagg
05-22-2008, 02:41 PM
Here is a side by side comparison:
Bob's legit sig on the left.
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/8734/presentation1sb0.jpg

MonteGss
05-22-2008, 02:42 PM
I saw that auction earlier today.
Thanks for the side-by-side Jerome. :)

Fsmdr
05-22-2008, 08:19 PM
I think it's a fake as well. the 'phen' in Bob's copy is squashed up just like he normally would sign and also the real sig looks a lot more pointy in style than the rounder style of the sig in question.

NeedfulKings
05-22-2008, 08:19 PM
I'd say that even if the sig didn't give it away as a fake, the date did. The 9 and the 4 especially. Jerome eluded to that earlier and I think he's right.

Good fake---but not good enough for this crowd. :)

Patrick
05-22-2008, 09:15 PM
Here's a question, just out of curiosity. For fun or for work, have you ever sat down and signed your name, say 30+ times in a row? How consistent is your signature? I've done it for work-related documents from time-to-time. I swear my own signature changes a little on every page, such by the time I'm done, the last sig looks like a lousy forgery of the first one.

Room 217 Caretaker
05-23-2008, 02:12 AM
Here's a question, just out of curiosity. For fun or for work, have you ever sat down and signed your name, say 30+ times in a row? How consistent is your signature? I've done it for work-related documents from time-to-time. I swear my own signature changes a little on every page, such by the time I'm done, the last sig looks like a lousy forgery of the first one.

Yes.....we just closed on a loan. After signing every page my signature got worse. By the end it was absolutely terrible. Now, my wife Karen can keep her signature identical all the way through.

Not sure how the authors and artist do it when they have 350 signature sheets sitting in front of them.


Mulleins
Cumberland VA

Bev Vincent
05-23-2008, 05:54 AM
I've done as many as 500 in one day for limitation pages. I have to take a break after every 100-150 because I forget how to start the approach to the B in my first name. They do tend to degenerate over time, but the overall characteristics of the signature are mostly the same. It wouldn't withstand a letter by letter analysis, though, especially my last name, which is a V followed by a squiggle.

NeedfulKings
05-23-2008, 09:03 AM
Here's a question, just out of curiosity. For fun or for work, have you ever sat down and signed your name, say 30+ times in a row? How consistent is your signature? I've done it for work-related documents from time-to-time. I swear my own signature changes a little on every page, such by the time I'm done, the last sig looks like a lousy forgery of the first one.

Yes, we just did an inventory of about 250 vehicles here at my job. Once we had them all tracked down, I had to sign (and date) the final inventory--on each line! I could only manage about 40-50 at a crack. And yes, my signature did suck in the end! Typically, the first letter and last letters were consistant. The ones in the middle eventually just became a "squiggle!"

Oh, and most of the dates read 5/20/08, but one read 5/08/20 and one was 5/20/80

:lol:

Rahfa
05-23-2008, 09:16 AM
This would be evidence that the Buick 8 signauture above maybe IS real...the big problem is the loop in the S, and that could have been because the book shifted, or his hand was tired, or who knows why...I think the dates are pretty similar...and the underlining seems to be done pretty naturally.

However, it could also be a trace...

Ah...you can't win!

Clacke
05-23-2008, 01:45 PM
Here is a side by side comparison:
Bob's legit sig on the left.
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/8734/presentation1sb0.jpg

For further comparison, veryfinebooks.com have a signed Buick 8 up on their website signed with the same date.
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn197/klacke/buick8signed_1-1.jpg

NeedfulKings
05-23-2008, 02:11 PM
A link to the VeryFineBooks listing:

http://www.veryfinebooks.com/product_p/sk8340.htm

The leg on the "4" definitely drops below the "2" on this example as well. Most things seems to be more consistant with the left-hand photo above.

EXPLORER
05-24-2008, 05:42 PM
Here is a side by side comparison:
Bob's legit sig on the left.
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/8734/presentation1sb0.jpg
Here is another pic from that same signing:
http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/showfull.php?photo=3254
http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/Buick_8_sig_personalized.JPG

Randall Flagg
05-24-2008, 06:51 PM
Explorer, I edited your post to show the picture/signature you had a link to.
Hope that is ok.

Scoogs
05-24-2008, 09:07 PM
It's interesting that the K loops into the I in some(veryfine and the questioned sig), but not others(Bob's and Explorer's), even if they are both thought to be legit signatures.

jhanic
05-25-2008, 07:41 AM
I wonder if we should take into account the possible differences in "mass" signings and inidvidual ones. As pointed out above, signatures at the end of the mass signing may very well be different that those at the beginning.

John

Rahfa
05-25-2008, 02:08 PM
Mass signings definitley affect the signature...but after seeing the three compared signatures above, I'm pretty sure I'd consider the in-question sig a fake...the loop looks really traced/hesistant in comparison to the others, and there are other minute problems too...

Calla_Wolf
05-30-2008, 12:28 AM
Mass signings definitley affect the signature...but after seeing the three compared signatures above, I'm pretty sure I'd consider the in-question sig a fake...the loop looks really traced/hesistant in comparison to the others, and there are other minute problems too...

Agreed !!

Pasiuk57
05-30-2008, 03:14 AM
AWESOME photos!!

CRinVA
05-30-2008, 05:55 AM
Ceri,

Ten pages of awesome shots - such an ecclectic grouping of pictures from people to architecture to closeups to animals to scenic shots to ........

The Lady of Shadows
05-30-2008, 05:59 PM
i keep my eye on bag of bones stuff and this one just makes me itch. the signature says "pocket books" underneath and to the best of my knowledge pocket only does paperbooks (i could be wrong about that but i don't think so). also, what do you think about that shine beneath the sig? i think it's a flash reflection but what would a flash reflect off of on a book? even a paperback?

btw, i sent an email to the seller asking for clarification and for a posting of a close-up pic of the sig.

Signed Bag of Bones? (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=250253843951&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=015)

jhanic
05-30-2008, 06:14 PM
I think it's a phony. Don't bid.

John

The Lady of Shadows
05-30-2008, 06:33 PM
I think it's a phony. Don't bid.

John

yeah, i thought so too. just wanted to get some expert opinions. i am interested to see what the seller says in response to my request for information.

NeedfulKings
05-30-2008, 07:17 PM
It's definitely a bookplate, so the "Pocket Books" could be placed on a Scribner hardcover. As to the actual sig, I'll leave that to the experts.

shnnrc01
05-30-2008, 11:55 PM
sig looks fine to me.

Room 217 Caretaker
05-31-2008, 03:27 AM
I wonder how many more will be printed like this. The first group that hit Ebay clearly stated 1 of 100.....now this one is 1 of 26.....I guess it’s going to be like the old Doritos commercial, "keep crunching, we will make more" :)

http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-SIGNED-Limited-BEST-AMERICAN-SHORT-STORIES_W0QQitemZ130226950915QQihZ003QQcategoryZ29 223QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

carlosdetweiller
05-31-2008, 04:46 AM
I wonder how many more will be printed like this. The first group that hit Ebay clearly stated 1 of 100.....now this one is 1 of 26.....I guess it’s going to be like the old Doritos commercial, "keep crunching, we will make more" :)

http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-SIGNED-Limited-BEST-AMERICAN-SHORT-STORIES_W0QQitemZ130226950915QQihZ003QQcategoryZ29 223QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

I think there really are two separate editions. The 1/26 version is a little "more deluxe" than the 1/100 edition but I don't recall the details.

I collect nearly everything and every edition and I am steering clear of these editions. For that matter I steer clear of everything related to Tim Miller and "flatsigned.com".

carlosdetweiller
05-31-2008, 04:47 AM
sig looks fine to me.

The sig looks OK to me too.

Hutch
05-31-2008, 06:09 AM
the signature appears authentic. But what's the point? A signed plate. I guess the upside is that it appears to be an official plate from Pocketbooks. Is the plate from Scribner's PB subsidiary really in a HB copy? Seems odd to me.

Randall Flagg
05-31-2008, 01:10 PM
I really don't like this signature:

Lisey's Story-Signed (http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-Liseys-Story-SIGNED-1st-edition_W0QQitemZ180246451168QQihZ008QQcategoryZ37 7QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

http://i16.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/f2/c9/90f5_1_sbl.JPG

jhanic
05-31-2008, 04:01 PM
But he's offering a COA from the original sale in 2006!

I wonder what THAT means?

John

NeedfulKings
05-31-2008, 06:43 PM
It seems that at most of the signings he signed the title page...not the FEP. The sig's not bad, IMO...I mean it's pretty klunky, but SK's sig is these days. Again, I'll defer to the experts. :)

Calla_Wolf
06-01-2008, 03:48 AM
Ceri,

Ten pages of awesome shots - such an ecclectic grouping of pictures from people to architecture to closeups to animals to scenic shots to ........

:grouphug:

Thanks for the comments guys - they encouraged me to add more

Calla_Wolf
06-01-2008, 03:49 AM
I really don't like this signature:

Lisey's Story-Signed (http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-Liseys-Story-SIGNED-1st-edition_W0QQitemZ180246451168QQihZ008QQcategoryZ37 7QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

http://i16.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/f2/c9/90f5_1_sbl.JPG

I tend to lean towards it being a-ok, though I think I would double check with Hutch before bidding on it.

Randall Flagg
06-01-2008, 06:35 AM
It sold for $75.

EXPLORER
06-01-2008, 07:29 AM
It sold for $75.

Actually, I believe that was a good buy/value...
This buyers has been aquiring a bit of King lately at various prices.

Randall Flagg
06-01-2008, 09:12 AM
Assuming it is a valid signature, I think it's a great value.

Room 217 Caretaker
06-02-2008, 03:16 PM
:excited: I won the argument. Paypal sent me the FULL refund along with an email explaining the decision in my favor.

The seller already sent an email letting me know she learned a valuable lesson on selling books and thanked me for the crash course in telling a true first edition.

:clap: Now I'm in the hunt again for a TRUE FIRST EDITION, FIRST PRINT signed by King Duma Key. Anyone have an extra copy?

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

jhanic
06-02-2008, 04:12 PM
Congratulations on getting your refund!

John

Room 217 Caretaker
06-02-2008, 05:02 PM
It's been a while since we've cranked up the "Let's Play Ebay BS" game.

This next contestant may get the top award of 2008 for the WORST FAKE SIGNATURE yet:

http://cgi.ebay.com/STEPHEN-kING-INSOMNIA-SIGNED_W0QQitemZ260245689437QQihZ016QQcategoryZ292 23QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Mulleins
Cumberland VA

Randall Flagg
06-02-2008, 06:57 PM
I reported it.

EXPLORER
06-02-2008, 07:26 PM
:excited: I won the argument. Paypal sent me the FULL refund along with an email explaining the decision in my favor.

The seller already sent an email letting me know she learned a valuable lesson on selling books and thanked me for the crash course in telling a true first edition.

:clap: Now I'm in the hunt again for a TRUE FIRST EDITION, FIRST PRINT signed by King Duma Key. Anyone have an extra copy?

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

CONGRATULATIONS MULLEINS. I felt your case was strong, as I knew there were messages sent to your seller inquiring about whether what she was selling could be a 2nd printing.
...........AND....................
Yes....I still have a couple flat-signed 1st, 1sts as well as a number of 1st 2nds.

Mr. Rabbit Trick
06-02-2008, 10:15 PM
Congratulations Mulleins.

Mr. Rabbit Trick
06-02-2008, 10:51 PM
What a waste of a 1st edition.

Calla_Wolf
06-02-2008, 11:14 PM
"BINDING NEVER CRACKED"

BUT THE SELLER IS

Nerak
06-03-2008, 01:20 AM
woo hoo!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hutch
06-03-2008, 05:45 AM
I think this one is even worse.
It's not Stephen's signature as claimed...and also not the 1st edition, 1st printing they say it is.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200221460215&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fws%2Fsearch %2FSaleSearch%3Fsofocus%3Dbs%26satitle%3D200221460 215%2509%26sacat%3D-1%2526catref%253DC5%26catref%3DC5%26dfsp%3D32%26no jspr%3Dy%26from%3DR7%26nojspr%3Dy%26pfid%3D0%26fso p%3D2%2526fsoo%253D2%26fcl%3D3%26frpp%3D200%26fvi% 3D1

jhanic
06-03-2008, 05:49 AM
Yccch!

Reported.

John

EXPLORER
06-03-2008, 06:01 AM
I think this one is even worse.
It's not Stephen's signature as claimed...and also not the 1st edition, 1st printing they say it is.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200221460215&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fws%2Fsearch %2FSaleSearch%3Fsofocus%3Dbs%26satitle%3D200221460 215%2509%26sacat%3D-1%2526catref%253DC5%26catref%3DC5%26dfsp%3D32%26no jspr%3Dy%26from%3DR7%26nojspr%3Dy%26pfid%3D0%26fso p%3D2%2526fsoo%253D2%26fcl%3D3%26frpp%3D200%26fvi% 3D1

and ...An interesting spelling on the title "THE SHINEING"

Randall Flagg
06-03-2008, 06:06 AM
I think this one is even worse.
It's not Stephen's signature as claimed...and also not the 1st edition, 1st printing they say it is.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200221460215&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fws%2Fsearch %2FSaleSearch%3Fsofocus%3Dbs%26satitle%3D200221460 215%2509%26sacat%3D-1%2526catref%253DC5%26catref%3DC5%26dfsp%3D32%26no jspr%3Dy%26from%3DR7%26nojspr%3Dy%26pfid%3D0%26fso p%3D2%2526fsoo%253D2%26fcl%3D3%26frpp%3D200%26fvi% 3D1

It is terrible. I reported it also.

Mr. Rabbit Trick
06-03-2008, 06:11 AM
I think this one is even worse.
It's not Stephen's signature as claimed...and also not the 1st edition, 1st printing they say it is.


He can't spell Shining
Says its gutter code R53 when picture shows R52
'Inscription' certainly not by King

Still, offer him a few dollars for the cover

Calla_Wolf
06-03-2008, 06:33 AM
I think this one is even worse.
It's not Stephen's signature as claimed...and also not the 1st edition, 1st printing they say it is.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200221460215&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fws%2Fsearch %2FSaleSearch%3Fsofocus%3Dbs%26satitle%3D200221460 215%2509%26sacat%3D-1%2526catref%253DC5%26catref%3DC5%26dfsp%3D32%26no jspr%3Dy%26from%3DR7%26nojspr%3Dy%26pfid%3D0%26fso p%3D2%2526fsoo%253D2%26fcl%3D3%26frpp%3D200%26fvi% 3D1

But apart from that.....?

:pullhair: :pullhair: :pullhair:

If anyone actually pays money for that crap they deserve all they get for sheer stupidity

Brice
06-03-2008, 06:40 AM
It is without question the worst fake I've seen. I mean I don't want them to be good, but they could at least make an effort.

Room 217 Caretaker
06-03-2008, 07:22 AM
I think this one is even worse.
It's not Stephen's signature as claimed...and also not the 1st edition, 1st printing they say it is.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200221460215&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fws%2Fsearch %2FSaleSearch%3Fsofocus%3Dbs%26satitle%3D200221460 215%2509%26sacat%3D-1%2526catref%253DC5%26catref%3DC5%26dfsp%3D32%26no jspr%3Dy%26from%3DR7%26nojspr%3Dy%26pfid%3D0%26fso p%3D2%2526fsoo%253D2%26fcl%3D3%26frpp%3D200%26fvi% 3D1

:panic: Hold the phone: This could be the most valuable King signature out there. At one time is King's life, didn't he have a drug problem? Maybe this is from that time :evil:

OK.....being serious. That IS THE WORST King signature yet.

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

Room 217 Caretaker
06-03-2008, 07:22 AM
I think this one is even worse.
It's not Stephen's signature as claimed...and also not the 1st edition, 1st printing they say it is.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200221460215&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fws%2Fsearch %2FSaleSearch%3Fsofocus%3Dbs%26satitle%3D200221460 215%2509%26sacat%3D-1%2526catref%253DC5%26catref%3DC5%26dfsp%3D32%26no jspr%3Dy%26from%3DR7%26nojspr%3Dy%26pfid%3D0%26fso p%3D2%2526fsoo%253D2%26fcl%3D3%26frpp%3D200%26fvi% 3D1

:panic: Hold the phone: This could be the most valuable King signature out there. At one time in King's life, didn't he have a drug problem? Maybe this is from that time :evil:

OK.....being serious. That IS THE WORST King signature yet.

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

Hutch
06-03-2008, 09:04 AM
I think this one is even worse.
It's not Stephen's signature as claimed...and also not the 1st edition, 1st printing they say it is.


He can't spell Shining
Says its gutter code R53 when picture shows R52
'Inscription' certainly not by King

Still, offer him a few dollars for the cover

It may not be a good idea....even though they state an unclipped $8.95 price is on the flap... the picture shows Book Club Edition printed on the lower flap.

wizardsrainbow
06-03-2008, 09:06 AM
I think this one is even worse.
It's not Stephen's signature as claimed...and also not the 1st edition, 1st printing they say it is.


He can't spell Shining
Says its gutter code R53 when picture shows R52
'Inscription' certainly not by King

Still, offer him a few dollars for the cover

It may not be a good idea....even though they state an unclipped $8.95 price is on the flap... the picture shows Book Club Edition printed on the lower flap.

Hutch-
Your eagle eyes win again!

Fsmdr
06-03-2008, 10:21 AM
That's great!. Glad to hear you got your money back.

The Lady of Shadows
06-03-2008, 02:10 PM
i keep my eye on bag of bones stuff and this one just makes me itch. the signature says "pocket books" underneath and to the best of my knowledge pocket only does paperbooks (i could be wrong about that but i don't think so). also, what do you think about that shine beneath the sig? i think it's a flash reflection but what would a flash reflect off of on a book? even a paperback?

btw, i sent an email to the seller asking for clarification and for a posting of a close-up pic of the sig.

Signed Bag of Bones? (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=250253843951&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=015)


i heard back from the seller who said the the shine on the autograph page was from the flash (said would post a better pic, but nothing yet). i sent another message reiterating my question about flash on a page from a hardcover, asking if it was a signed bookplate inside the hardcover or an actual sig, and asking what the book numbers (not the isbn numbers) were (so i could determine if it's a first edition, first printing, etc.). no response, and the auction ends tomorrow.

it's a shame really, i would so love a signed bag of bones. oh well, not worth it if i'm gonna get ripped off.

Matt
06-03-2008, 02:23 PM
I don't blame you a bit Turtle. It does suck not to get it but its a hell of a lot better than getting ripped off. :couple:

namelessnpoor
06-03-2008, 03:30 PM
[QUOTE

it's a shame really, i would so love a signed bag of bones. oh well, not worth it if i'm gonna get ripped off.[/QUOTE]


Not sure what your budget is, but thought i would mention that Hutch has 2 signed Bag of Bones listed on his website.

He has a lot of nice stuff and i am always checking out his site to see whats new. If i ever come across lots of cash to spend on books he will probably make a small fortune off of me.
I would love to have alot more signed first editions.

The Lady of Shadows
06-03-2008, 08:00 PM
it's a shame really, i would so love a signed bag of bones. oh well, not worth it if i'm gonna get ripped off.


Not sure what your budget is, but thought i would mention that Hutch has 2 signed Bag of Bones listed on his website.

He has a lot of nice stuff and i am always checking out his site to see whats new. If i ever come across lots of cash to spend on books he will probably make a small fortune off of me.
I would love to have alot more signed first editions.

well, i heard back from the seller. it's a bookplate glued into the hardcover. wtf? never mind. i don't even want to know. . . .

plus seller asked me what i meant by book numbers (okay, this may be a legit question but really, shouldn't a seller know this? am i using the wrong term here?)

now then, as to this elusive hutch. . . . "i'm off to see the wizard, the wonderful wizard of oz" thanks for the tip. wonder if my husband would divorce me for spending tons of money on a book? :)


EDIT: oh yeah, he'd divorce me. that rose madder proof, however, is looking pretty tasty. thanks for the tip! :)

Randall Flagg
06-07-2008, 05:26 AM
Signed Misery (http://cgi.ebay.com/Misery-Signed-by-Stephen-King_W0QQitemZ250254514822QQihZ015QQcategoryZ377QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

http://i1.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/f5/8b/0d57_1.JPG

jhanic
06-07-2008, 05:35 AM
What's with that "g"!?!

Fake.

John

Randall Flagg
06-07-2008, 07:45 AM
Exactly. The G looks like an apple. All wrong.

Randall Flagg
06-12-2008, 07:24 AM
I'm suprised someone would bid $20 on a 16th printing price clipped The Dead Zone (http://cgi.ebay.com/1979-1st-FIRST-ED-EDITION-DEAD-ZONE-STEPHEN-KING-HBDJ_W0QQitemZ220242848871QQihZ012QQcategoryZ377QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

Cutter
06-16-2008, 05:42 AM
I'm suprised someone would bid $20 on a 16th printing price clipped The Dead Zone (http://cgi.ebay.com/1979-1st-FIRST-ED-EDITION-DEAD-ZONE-STEPHEN-KING-HBDJ_W0QQitemZ220242848871QQihZ012QQcategoryZ377QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
Sadly, I bet the buyer didn't know any better. The auction is very deceiving, as it states first edition everywhere. Even though it states the number line, it doesn't state 16th printing.

wizardsrainbow
06-18-2008, 04:06 AM
What do you think of the signature on this one:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Stephen-King-Hand-Signed-The-Dark-Tower-pb-1st-Edition_W0QQitemZ320263138416QQihZ011QQcategoryZ27 0QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I think it might be ok, but a bit hurried. The g is pretty messed up IMO

carlosdetweiller
06-18-2008, 04:35 AM
What do you think of the signature on this one:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Stephen-King-Hand-Signed-The-Dark-Tower-pb-1st-Edition_W0QQitemZ320263138416QQihZ011QQcategoryZ27 0QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I think it might be ok, but a bit hurried. The g is pretty messed up IMO

I think I would stay away from that one. I don't think it is legit.

wizardsrainbow
06-18-2008, 05:01 AM
What do you think of the signature on this one:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Stephen-King-Hand-Signed-The-Dark-Tower-pb-1st-Edition_W0QQitemZ320263138416QQihZ011QQcategoryZ27 0QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I think it might be ok, but a bit hurried. The g is pretty messed up IMO

I think I would stay away from that one. I don't think it is legit.

ok thanks. While I would love to own a signed UK edition, I didn't love the sig enough to bid without checking first.

jhanic
06-18-2008, 05:12 AM
I'd stay away also. Although, as you said, it could be because it's hurried, it just doesn't look right to me either.

John

Mr. Rabbit Trick
06-18-2008, 08:24 AM
It's a fake. King only used blue pens at Battersea Park.

wizardsrainbow
06-18-2008, 08:42 AM
It's a fake. King only used blue pens at Battersea Park.

There you go! I'd take that to the bank. I didn't think of that. Thank you.

Matt
06-18-2008, 09:06 AM
Amazing! What cool info.

lophophoras
06-22-2008, 02:21 AM
I do not know if this Ebay auction has been discussed or not but figured I would at least ask. Is it legit?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200232246699&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=010

I sent the lady an email and she said she bought it from a friend.

What do you guys think?

Room 217 Caretaker
06-22-2008, 03:42 AM
I do not know if this Ebay auction has been discussed or not but figured I would at least ask. Is it legit?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200232246699&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=010

I sent the lady an email and she said she bought it from a friend.

What do you guys think?

:clap: A FAKE, I've seen worse but still a fake.

I don't like the K or the swoop. It's not matching to any sig I've seen or own.


Mulleins
Cumberland VA

carlosdetweiller
06-22-2008, 05:07 AM
I do not know if this Ebay auction has been discussed or not but figured I would at least ask. Is it legit?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200232246699&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=010

I sent the lady an email and she said she bought it from a friend.

What do you guys think?

:clap: A FAKE, I've seen worse but still a fake.

I don't like the K or the swoop. It's not matching to any sig I've seen or own.


I agree. Definitely a forgery.

alinda
06-22-2008, 05:11 AM
who would sell a 1st signed for $9.99 anyway?

jhanic
06-22-2008, 07:14 AM
Terrible fake.

John

Cutter
06-24-2008, 05:45 AM
Terrible fake.

John
...and it's terribly unfortunate that someone lost $207 on buying this item. :(

I hate when someone gets screwed!

Ari_Racing
06-24-2008, 02:45 PM
Well...last week I got tired of waiting for some books I purchased at ebay and I started the process of getting (if possible) my money back. Paypal mentions that they can't assure that. I paid part with my paypal founds and the rest with my credit card. Can I get back what I paid by Credit card at least (it's VISA)?

Any advice is very welcomed.

Thanks!

bangoskank1
06-24-2008, 03:14 PM
Correct of course. It was the first King hardback to have a UPC on the DJ.

nice piece of information there...I, as well as many of us, am an avid collector and only once did i get shammed...just yesterday actually, but it was only for a beatup paperback that I wanted for other reasons so no biggie there...However I did just find on Amazon a 1st edition 1st printing of Carrie in pristine condition....for only 1 dollar and 99 cents....yep.. the skies should open up anytime now...cracked me right the hell up it did...I think we all know the truth on this one folks...besides the outragously, ridiculous price I think maybe there was no other printings of first editions on this book...I could be wrong about this, so I'll take all the feedback I canon that note.....but I am certianly not wrong about the fact that this is a hilarious piece of advertising...we're talking the holy grail here..and regarding price clipped DJ's...some people don't mind em...at the risk of sounding snobby..I won't even consider them..

bangoskank1
06-24-2008, 03:20 PM
I think this one is even worse.
It's not Stephen's signature as claimed...and also not the 1st edition, 1st printing they say it is.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200221460215&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fws%2Fsearch %2FSaleSearch%3Fsofocus%3Dbs%26satitle%3D200221460 215%2509%26sacat%3D-1%2526catref%253DC5%26catref%3DC5%26dfsp%3D32%26no jspr%3Dy%26from%3DR7%26nojspr%3Dy%26pfid%3D0%26fso p%3D2%2526fsoo%253D2%26fcl%3D3%26frpp%3D200%26fvi% 3D1

and ...An interesting spelling on the title "THE SHINEING"

yeah but still....free shipping....

The Lady of Shadows
06-24-2008, 03:57 PM
Well...last week I got tired of waiting for some books I purchased at ebay and I started the process of getting (if possible) my money back. Paypal mentions that they can't assure that. I paid part with my paypal founds and the rest with my credit card. Can I get back what I paid by Credit card at least (it's VISA)?

Any advice is very welcomed.

Thanks!


you know, paypal always says that they can't guarantee anything but i've never heard of them not getting someone their money back when a transaction goes bad. so long as you have all the documentation, and this includes all emails back and forth, they are really great about this part.

also, they'll want to know if you paid for insurance. and if you filed a claim with the postal service (if it came from the u.s.) because they might want you to go that route first.

let us know what happens.

Ari_Racing
06-24-2008, 04:02 PM
Actually the seller never shipped the books :(

The Lady of Shadows
06-24-2008, 04:14 PM
oooooh. one of those people.

well, you shouldn't have any trouble with paypal then. i've used them for lots of stuff (not just ebay related) and they've been great. and other people i've talked with who've needed them for trouble have said that paypal always had their back. just make sure you have all your paperwork, copies of all your emails and other documentation and you should be fine. good luck! :thumbsup:

EXPLORER
06-24-2008, 04:34 PM
Well...last week I got tired of waiting for some books I purchased at ebay and I started the process of getting (if possible) my money back. Paypal mentions that they can't assure that. I paid part with my paypal founds and the rest with my credit card. Can I get back what I paid by Credit card at least (it's VISA)?

Any advice is very welcomed.

Thanks!

You should be able to dispute it on the credit card without any problem.
When you get your bill circle the charge and include a note disputing the charge and do not pay for that portion of bill. I have found it an easy resolution, especially when Paypal is not (or is making dificult).

artan
06-27-2008, 02:38 PM
Handsigned photo :orely:

http://cgi.ebay.it/KING-Stephen-King-signed-11_W0QQitemZ320267387607QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item32 0267387607&_trkparms=39%3A1%7C65%3A3&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

carlosdetweiller
06-27-2008, 02:42 PM
Handsigned photo :orely:

http://cgi.ebay.it/KING-Stephen-King-signed-11_W0QQitemZ320267387607QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item32 0267387607&_trkparms=39%3A1%7C65%3A3&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

It is not a legit signature, IMO.

jhanic
06-27-2008, 04:32 PM
I agree.

John

lophophoras
06-27-2008, 06:48 PM
Check this ebay auction out. Seller states in description "not a book clubber" but his/her photo of the book shows book club edition on the flap.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-Carrie-Stephen-King-first-edition_W0QQitemZ330247943718QQihZ014QQcategoryZ29 223QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Some unknowing/inexperienced buyer is about to get the shaft.

Randall Flagg
06-28-2008, 08:21 AM
Pure junk.

Randall Flagg
06-28-2008, 08:30 AM
Anyone care to render an opinion on this signature?
I think it is legit.

http://images.craigslist.org/0101040102020116092008062885d5a094cc1ac3854100618b .jpg

carlosdetweiller
06-28-2008, 08:54 AM
Anyone care to render an opinion on this signature?
I think it is legit.


Me too.

jhanic
06-28-2008, 09:38 AM
Looks okay to me too, but it's a bit blurry. I assume the book is The Dark Half.

John

lophophoras
06-28-2008, 11:34 AM
Check this ebay auction out. Seller states in description "not a book clubber" but his/her photo of the book shows book club edition on the flap.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-Carrie-Stephen-King-first-edition_W0QQitemZ330247943718QQihZ014QQcategoryZ29 223QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Some unknowing/inexperienced buyer is about to get the shaft.

This individual changed the description of the book after I shot them a email about providing misleading information.

carlosdetweiller
06-28-2008, 05:09 PM
Well, this guy is full of BS.

http://cgi.ebay.com/STEPHEN-KING-story-TRUCK-true-1st-CAVALIER-JUNE-1973_W0QQitemZ150264117780QQihZ005QQcategoryZ280QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

From his description:

"The condition of this magazine is as follows....

minor spine roll which looks to be easily pressed out

a penned date 5-17-73 and the penned notation "READ" is written on the cover.
Actually, the date and note on the cover are kind of neat. I imagine the original purchaser of this magazine wrote it. "

Easily pressed out? With what? I can't imagine pages being straightened after 35 years.

It's the first time I have ever heard of unsightly writing on a magazine cover described as "kind of neat."

What a dirtball!

Rahfa
06-29-2008, 02:23 PM
I'm not sure he's a "dirtball" since he does have a picture showing all the flaws....but he is certainly taking an extreme 'glass half full' approach...haha...

carlosdetweiller
06-29-2008, 03:03 PM
I'm not sure he's a "dirtball" since he does have a picture showing all the flaws....but he is certainly taking an extreme 'glass half full' approach...haha...


Yes, that is probably a better way to put it.

artan
07-02-2008, 04:11 PM
Stephen King Signed Auto'd RARE Index Card :
http://cgi.ebay.it/Stephen-King-Signed-Autod-RARE-Index-Card-PSA-DNA-COA_W0QQitemZ230250090994QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item2 30250090994&_trkparms=39%3A1%7C65%3A3&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Do you think is it good?
If it's legit, it is not beautiful
Authenticated By PSA/DNA...Authentication services...COA...:nope:

Will They check the Signature before to give them certifiacte?
:evil:

Randall Flagg
07-02-2008, 05:24 PM
I think it is fake. If it was real, it is a TERRIBLE signature to pay for.

jhanic
07-02-2008, 05:43 PM
I think it's a fake also. Remember, a COA isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

John

wizardsrainbow
07-03-2008, 02:20 AM
Fake, in my opinion

Room 217 Caretaker
07-03-2008, 03:33 AM
:pullhair: It's a fake for sure :pullhair:

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

Rahfa
07-03-2008, 04:15 AM
I honestly think it could be real...but I would never pay for it, of course....the COA is meaningless and it's a terrible signature regardless...

wizardsrainbow
07-03-2008, 05:13 AM
On a related topic-

A court ruled on Monday that eBay will have to pay luxury goods giant LVMH $63 million for fake Gucci etc. merchandise that is sold through eBay. LVMH claimed that the fakes/knock-offs diluted the value of its true luxury brands.

eBay vehemently disagreed and stated that it is simply a conduit/fascilitator of a transaction. eBay also admitted that it spends $20 million a year and collaborates with over 18,000 brand owners to fight counterfeiting.

In 2007, eBay removed 2.2 million suspect listings and suspended 50,000 seller accounts.

I thought this was interesting information to share with all of you given that we are doing a bit of our own police work here on fake signatures.

Fsmdr
07-03-2008, 08:07 AM
It's interesting too that LVMH found 90% of the listings to be fake goods.

Room 217 Caretaker
07-09-2008, 03:36 PM
:pullhair: Bad Signature:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-From-a-Buick-8-First-Edition-1st-Signed_W0QQitemZ200237845674QQihZ010QQcategoryZ144 33QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

Randall Flagg
07-09-2008, 03:39 PM
:pullhair: Bad Signature:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-From-a-Buick-8-First-Edition-1st-Signed_W0QQitemZ200237845674QQihZ010QQcategoryZ144 33QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

That's pretty bad.

lophophoras
07-11-2008, 02:52 AM
Hey guys!

If you have been buying your copies of the DT comics off of Ebay you need to avoid buying from Wantedcomix. This guy is trying to rip me off. I paid for the 1/50 Sketch Variant of Long Road Home and he sent me the 1/25 Color Variant. When I brought this to his attention he told me that I could pay him for the 1/25 and he would then send me the 1/50 I paid for. I refused. I told him to ship me the one I paid for and I would send him the wrong item back. He will not do this claiming that he has been ripped off in the past and will not be doing that again.

Who is the crook here?

I paid $45 dollars for the 1/50 and I want what I paid for. My feedback on Ebay should be enough proof to him that I am legitimate and I am not trying to cheat him out of a comic.

I have turned this dispute over to Paypal and Ebay.

Avoid this guy!!

wizardsrainbow
07-11-2008, 02:55 AM
Sorry for your trouble and good luck in working it out. Thanks for the heads up.

carlosdetweiller
07-11-2008, 03:34 AM
I paid $45 dollars for the 1/50 and I want what I paid for. My feedback on Ebay should be enough proof to him that I am legitimate and I am not trying to cheat him out of a comic.

I have turned this dispute over to Paypal and Ebay.



That is too bad. I definitely wouldn't have sent him the extra funds he asked you for.

You should be OK getting refunded through PayPal since he sent the wrong comic but if you paid via PayPal and used funds from a credit card you would be better off filing a dispute with them. It will take MUCH less time than going through the eBay/PayPal system.

e_taylor
07-11-2008, 05:41 AM
I paid $45 dollars for the 1/50 and I want what I paid for. My feedback on Ebay should be enough proof to him that I am legitimate and I am not trying to cheat him out of a comic.

I have turned this dispute over to Paypal and Ebay.



That is too bad. I definitely wouldn't have sent him the extra funds he asked you for.

You should be OK getting refunded through PayPal since he sent the wrong comic but if you paid via PayPal and used funds from a credit card you would be better off filing a dispute with them. It will take MUCH less time than going through the eBay/PayPal system.

Carlos -

What exactly is the process in filing a claim with your credit card company? I've wondered in a few situation I've had in the past, but never gone about finding out just what I needed to do...

carlosdetweiller
07-11-2008, 06:08 AM
Carlos -

What exactly is the process in filing a claim with your credit card company? I've wondered in a few situation I've had in the past, but never gone about finding out just what I needed to do...

You just call the 800 number for Customer Service and tell them you have a disputed charge. In most cases they immediately give you temporary credit for the charge. They mail you a short form that you fill out and return to them. The whole process takes about three weeks (in my experience) but the benefit is that you get immediate credit on your card.

With PayPal they don't give you any credit until the whole process is complete which can take 3 to 4 weeks.

The times I have disputed through eBay I have been hit with a $25 deductible. So that in the case of a $40 charge you would only recoup $15. Obviously that is not the way to go, especially for a relatively inexpensive item.

Randall Flagg
07-11-2008, 06:23 AM
I'll echo Bob on the dispute thing. The CC company gives instant 100% credit to your account, and once you mail in the brief form letter describing the issue, odds are very very likely they rule in your favor.
Paypal should be called Painpal when it comes to a dispute, as they are a PITA to deal with.

Matt
07-11-2008, 01:56 PM
Yep--from a banking perspective.

Ever wonder why you can (1)Charge up to 25.00 without signing and (2) never have your signature or ID checked when using a credit card?

Its because multi billion dollar companies like Visa and MC would rather simply pay up to 2500.00 in a lost claim than investigate it. Obviously its not cost effective. So you fill out the letter and done is done.

Not that anybody would but something like this causes an amazing amount of petty fraud as you can probably imagine. :lol:

Randall Flagg
07-11-2008, 03:07 PM
Yep--from a banking perspective.

Ever wonder why you can (1)Charge up to 25.00 without signing and (2) never have your signature or ID checked when using a credit card?

Its because multi billion dollar companies like Visa and MC would rather simply pay up to 2500.00 in a lost claim than investigate it. Obviously its not cost effective. So you fill out the letter and done is done.

Not that anybody would but something like this causes an amazing amount of petty fraud as you can probably imagine. :lol:
Which is why as a seller (which I rarely am), when dealing with an unknown buyer, I always had a signature required shipment- the buyer could contest the items condition/veracity but at least there was no denial of receipt.

Hutch
07-14-2008, 09:11 PM
Shall we test ebay's new method for reporting problems? Hopefully they will be more responsive.

this one is a fake :

http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-KingFrom-A-Buick-8Signed-1st-edition-2002_W0QQitemZ260263013529QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item 260263013529&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318

If you wish to report click the "report this item" link at the bottom of the page. Ebay allows comments in a brief description area.

1) counterfeits and copyright violations
2) bootlegs and countefeit media
3) counterfeit autographs

wizardsrainbow
07-15-2008, 04:05 AM
Shall we test ebay's new method for reporting problems? Hopefully they will be more responsive.

this one is a fake :

http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-KingFrom-A-Buick-8Signed-1st-edition-2002_W0QQitemZ260263013529QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item 260263013529&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318

If you wish to report click the "report this item" link at the bottom of the page. Ebay has new fields and even comments in a brief description area.

1) counterfeits and copyright violations
2) bootlegs and countefeit media
3) counterfeit autographs

I reported it just now.

Randall Flagg
07-15-2008, 06:10 AM
Reported.

jhanic
07-15-2008, 06:43 AM
Reported.

John

lophophoras
07-15-2008, 07:12 AM
Reported it also.

Fsmdr
07-15-2008, 08:49 AM
Ditto

Calla_Wolf
07-15-2008, 09:10 AM
Increasing number of fakes

Item number: 260263013529

Item number: 160261650015

Item number: 280245980927

Item number: 370068841105

Item number: 200238556595

Item number: 270255337882

Item number: 270255337884

Item number: 270255337886 - ?

Item number: 270255337887

...and so on

Randall Flagg
07-15-2008, 01:34 PM
Well, the Buick 8 listing closed because:
The seller ended this listing early because of an error in the listing.

Perhaps Ebay notified them of complaints......

The Lady of Shadows
07-15-2008, 03:39 PM
how many of us used the notify link to tell them it was a fake i wonder?

Randall Flagg
07-15-2008, 03:42 PM
how many of us used the notify link to tell them it was a fake i wonder?
Looking back on the thread at least 6.

tippy4
07-16-2008, 12:51 PM
Stephen King signed letter autograph (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190235557565&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=009)

Here is one where I contacted the seller to let him know the letter was a photocopy and not an original signature.

I give the seller credit for posting my comment in the auction on June 8th.

I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that it is a photocopy because I bought one of these on ebay myself (I sent it back and got a refund). If you read the actual letter, it states that it is the ENCLOSED POSTCARD that is in fact signed.

It sold for $33 to some soon-to-be disapointed buyer.

Oh well...$33 is not the end of the world.

Oh, and here is the card that originally came with the letter from King's office, but was not included in this auction:
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/9832/bookmarkuy5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

lophophoras
07-17-2008, 03:46 AM
What do you guys think?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=300242319710&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=020

jhanic
07-17-2008, 03:49 AM
I can't see the signature well enough to say one way or another. I also, though, wonder about the legality of selling such a thing over eBay.

John

wizardsrainbow
07-17-2008, 04:38 AM
What do you guys think?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=300242319710&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=020

John is right that the signature is hard to see. From what I can see, it's not the best looking sig I've seen.

It is a check (from whom I cannot really tell) to Steve for $3. (Does that low amount make it more likely to be faked, I don't know).

Randall Flagg
07-17-2008, 06:27 AM
Here it is a bit more blown up-although I still cannot discern the notation.
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/5483/checkpa5.jpg

jhanic
07-17-2008, 07:33 AM
The "g" looks wrong to me.

John

CRinVA
07-17-2008, 07:55 AM
memo looks like bank postage???? I wouldn't bid on that if it was starting at $5.00. :-)

what
07-17-2008, 08:03 AM
I have turned this dispute over to Paypal and Ebay.

Avoid this guy!!

I hate that you've had a bad experiance with Wanted as i've purchased many of my variants from... the only issue i've had was slow shipping on a few...i'm counting myself lucky!

lophophoras
07-17-2008, 08:32 AM
I have turned this dispute over to Paypal and Ebay.

Avoid this guy!!

I hate that you've had a bad experiance with Wanted as i've purchased many of my variants from... the only issue i've had was slow shipping on a few...i'm counting myself lucky!

I had done other business with this seller also and had no problems.

What really bothered me was the fact the he sent me the wrong variant and then wanted me to pay for it before he sent me the one I paid for. I did not feel like that was right.

And then the guy accused me of trying to rip him off when I asked him to drop the variant that I paid for in the mail the next morning and that I would drop that wrong item I received in the mail also that next morning. I figured he would get his item back the same day that I would receive the item I paid for. He simply refused.

His loss not mine. I will not give him my business again and I will continue to spread the word about his bad customer service. There are plenty of good sellers on Ebay looking for the business.

:)

Randall Flagg
07-17-2008, 09:45 AM
memo looks like bank postage???? I wouldn't bid on that if it was starting at $5.00. :-)
The check is from 1993. Perhaps the memo says "Book Postage", and was payment for shipping back when you could send a book to King and have him autograph it.

CRinVA
07-17-2008, 12:44 PM
When I shipped two books to King's office I had to include the actual postage due for the return trip - ala, I went to Post Office and purchased postage in the exact amount (weighed the books along with the folded box) and included a folded up box to place the books in. It worked and I got my books back and signed.

For those that care, I had the Grant Gift Edition of Desperation and the Zeising Gift Edition of Insomnia signed/personalized!

It was only a few months after I got mine back that I read that King was no longer accepting any books for signature. in fact to clean up the lsit he ended up shipping out copies of a book that he had several copies of and included a signed letter. I am glad I got in on the deal when I did. :-)

Hutch
07-17-2008, 03:01 PM
I reported this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-Geralds-Game-SIGNED-DATED-1ST-1ST_W0QQitemZ180266503106QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item1 80266503106&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318


If you wish to report click the "report this item" link at the bottom of the page. Ebay allows comments in a brief description area.

1) counterfeits and copyright violations
2) bootlegs and countefeit media
3) counterfeit autographs

Randall Flagg
07-17-2008, 03:10 PM
I reported it also.
Thanks Hutch.

Randall Flagg
07-17-2008, 03:25 PM
What do you guys think?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=300242319710&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=020
The seller responded to a question I submitted and confirmed the note says "Book Postage".
They also posted a higher resolution photo of the signature.
I won't vouch for the signature's authenticity, but it certainly is plausible the item is legit.

http://i4.ebayimg.com/06/i/000/fe/d1/de27_1.JPG

Hutch
07-17-2008, 03:51 PM
If it was truly sent to King's office... at best it's signed by a secretary.



What do you guys think?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=300242319710&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=020
The seller responded to a question I submitted and confirmed the note says "Book Postage".
They also posted a higher resolution photo of the signature.
I won't vouch for the signature's authenticity, but it certainly is plausible the item is legit.

Fsmdr
07-17-2008, 09:43 PM
Hutch,

Listing reported.

super sam
07-17-2008, 10:55 PM
Listing reported.

lophophoras
07-18-2008, 03:12 AM
I reported this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-Geralds-Game-SIGNED-DATED-1ST-1ST_W0QQitemZ180266503106QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item1 80266503106&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318


If you wish to report click the "report this item" link at the bottom of the page. Ebay allows comments in a brief description area.

1) counterfeits and copyright violations
2) bootlegs and countefeit media
3) counterfeit autographs

Reported.

carlosdetweiller
07-18-2008, 07:39 AM
If it was truly sent to King's office... at best it's signed by a secretary.



What do you guys think?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=300242319710&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=020
The seller responded to a question I submitted and confirmed the note says "Book Postage".
They also posted a higher resolution photo of the signature.
I won't vouch for the signature's authenticity, but it certainly is plausible the item is legit.


I also think that is secretarial signed. That is not King's signature.

The Lady of Shadows
07-18-2008, 03:56 PM
so basically what you are all saying is that stephen king's secretary forges his signature to deposit checks made out to him? interesting. very interesting. :wtf:

Randall Flagg
07-18-2008, 04:00 PM
so basically what you are all saying is that stephen king's secretary forges his signature to deposit checks made out to him? interesting. very interesting. :wtf:
Not being an attorney I can't comment on the legality of signing someone elses name, but I can tell you that with express premission, I have signed my wifes name to a check that was for deposit.
I doubt that as long as King received the money, there would be any ramifications for his secretary signing and depositing the check.
Reminds me of a story I might tell some day about someone famous sending in a check...

The Lady of Shadows
07-18-2008, 07:10 PM
ooooooooooooh.

story time, story time.


i'm waiting. . . .

Patrick
07-21-2008, 09:28 PM
ooooooooooooh.

story time, story time.


i'm waiting. . . .

Here's one while you wait:

http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showpost.php?p=160736&postcount=209

Hutch
07-22-2008, 11:10 AM
It's time again to test ebay's new method for reporting problems. Hopefully they will be more responsive than in the past.

this one is a fake and the seller has been at it for a few years:

http://cgi.ebay.com/STEPHEN-KING-DOLORES-CLAIRBORNE-SIGNED_W0QQitemZ260265954151QQcmdZViewItem?hash=it em260265954151&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318

If you wish to report click the "report this item" link at the bottom of the page. Ebay allows comments in a brief description area.

1) counterfeits and copyright violations
2) bootlegs and countefeit media
3) counterfeit autographs

wizardsrainbow
07-22-2008, 11:18 AM
reported

Room 217 Caretaker
07-22-2008, 11:32 AM
It's time again to test ebay's new method for reporting problems. Hopefully they will be more responsive than in the past.

this one is a fake and the seller has been at it for a few years:

http://cgi.ebay.com/STEPHEN-KING-DOLORES-CLAIRBORNE-SIGNED_W0QQitemZ260265954151QQcmdZViewItem?hash=it em260265954151&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318

If you wish to report click the "report this item" link at the bottom of the page. Ebay allows comments in a brief description area.

1) counterfeits and copyright violations
2) bootlegs and countefeit media
3) counterfeit autographs

Reported....

Maybe he should change is Ebay ID from frankfinders to fakefinders

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

gsvec
07-22-2008, 12:00 PM
Reported

Randall Flagg
07-22-2008, 01:27 PM
Reported. I would guess it takes at least 6 or more reports for Ebay to do anything.

Fsmdr
07-22-2008, 03:16 PM
Reported.

The Lady of Shadows
07-22-2008, 07:03 PM
reported.

Hutch
07-23-2008, 01:40 PM
still a live auction....is anyone else going to report it?

Patrick
07-23-2008, 01:51 PM
Reported.


If you wish to report click the "report this item" link at the bottom of the page. Ebay allows comments in a brief description area.

1) counterfeits and copyright violations
2) bootlegs and countefeit media
3) counterfeit autographs

Question: Do you guys use the comment section?

I write "Fake signature," but my comment is redundant given the drop-down menu choices.

The Lady of Shadows
07-23-2008, 05:58 PM
i always report everything you post in here hutch (whether i post in here that i reported it or not). and in the comments section i write that any reputable dealer would tell them that it's a fake signature and give them a link to your page.

i.e. any reputable dealer will tell you this is a fake sig. ex. www.stephenkingbuy.com


ETA: hutch - did you know that the pic of your homepage's icon doesn't lead to your homepage anymore? it leads to your profile page here on the site? just an fyi.

NeedfulKings
07-23-2008, 08:00 PM
Have we covered this one?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-Gunslinger-PB-Signed-SK-Michael-Whelan_W0QQitemZ270257727178QQihZ017QQcategoryZ377 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://i13.ebayimg.com/08/i/000/ff/83/4321_1.JPG

It should be a DTVII vintage sig, so it doesn't look good to me. Michael's looks fine.

I'm not interested in a paperback, but $150 BIN might be a steal.

wizardsrainbow
07-24-2008, 02:44 AM
Agreed. Michael's is fine. King's is all wrong.

carlosdetweiller
07-24-2008, 03:52 AM
I agree with David. The King signature is a forgery.

jhanic
07-24-2008, 04:59 AM
It looks traced to me, but I'm not sure why.

John

The Lady of Shadows
07-24-2008, 01:02 PM
why if whelan and king were there at the same time would one sign and not the other? :unsure:

Patrick
07-24-2008, 03:10 PM
why if whelan and king were there at the same time would one sign and not the other? :unsure:

It may be that the book had a legitimate Whelan sig and someone figured they could get a lot more dough for it if they added King's sig themselves.

Any backstory could be complete fiction. Who knows.

Room 217 Caretaker
07-26-2008, 02:54 PM
I'm pretty sure we've had a discussion about this seller before:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-From-a-Buick-8-Signed-1st-Edition_W0QQitemZ200242065749QQihZ010QQcategoryZ29 223QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

gsvec
07-26-2008, 02:58 PM
Reported

Patrick
07-26-2008, 06:19 PM
I'm pretty sure we've had a discussion about this seller before:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-From-a-Buick-8-Signed-1st-Edition_W0QQitemZ200242065749QQihZ010QQcategoryZ29 223QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Mulleins
Cumberland VA
The COA even says it's a numbered edition when it clearly is not. :doh:
Thereby reinforcing what we all know about so-called COAs.


Reported with the comment: "Fake signature. Also the fake COA states that it is a limited numbered edition which it is not."

Hutch
07-26-2008, 09:22 PM
reported


I'm pretty sure we've had a discussion about this seller before:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-From-a-Buick-8-Signed-1st-Edition_W0QQitemZ200242065749QQihZ010QQcategoryZ29 223QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Mulleins
Cumberland VA
The COA even says it's a numbered edition when it clearly is not. :doh:
Thereby reinforcing what we all know about so-called COAs.


Reported with the comment: "Fake signature. Also the fake COA states that it is a limited numbered edition which it is not."

gsvec
07-27-2008, 07:04 AM
Another fake sig - reported.

http://cgi.ebay.com/TOMMYKNOCKERS-SIGNED-STEPHEN-KING-1ST-1ST_W0QQitemZ250274769641QQihZ015QQcategoryZ29223Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Hutch
07-27-2008, 07:53 AM
rreported

Another fake sig - reported.

http://cgi.ebay.com/TOMMYKNOCKERS-SIGNED-STEPHEN-KING-1ST-1ST_W0QQitemZ250274769641QQihZ015QQcategoryZ29223Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Hutch
07-27-2008, 02:13 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/THE-SHINING-Stephen-King-SIGNED-HC-DJ-1St-Ed_W0QQitemZ260267983499QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item26 0267983499&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318

Also not a first edition as described. It's a full sized BCE

reported

gsvec
07-27-2008, 02:21 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/THE-SHINING-Stephen-King-SIGNED-HC-DJ-1St-Ed_W0QQitemZ260267983499QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item26 0267983499&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318

Also not a first edition as described. It's a full sized BCE

reported

Reported

Mr. Rabbit Trick
07-27-2008, 02:39 PM
I like when sellers state, "part of an estate sale". It makes me laugh.

Its like me selling an old plough and farm machinery with a copy of "Carrie" thrown in for good measure. (If I had more time I would have made up a photopshop picture of a tractor c/w a SK "1st/1st") :unsure:

lophophoras
07-27-2008, 05:15 PM
Another fake sig - reported.

http://cgi.ebay.com/TOMMYKNOCKERS-SIGNED-STEPHEN-KING-1ST-1ST_W0QQitemZ250274769641QQihZ015QQcategoryZ29223Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Reported

Patrick
07-28-2008, 04:18 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/THE-SHINING-Stephen-King-SIGNED-HC-DJ-1St-Ed_W0QQitemZ260267983499QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item26 0267983499&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318

Also not a first edition as described. It's a full sized BCE

reported

Reported

Reported.

The Lady of Shadows
07-28-2008, 04:20 PM
reported all. that one was laughable. even i knew that the sig had been traced and i suck at this. :lol:

Patrick
07-28-2008, 04:22 PM
reported
Another fake sig - reported.
http://cgi.ebay.com/TOMMYKNOCKERS-SIGNED-STEPHEN-KING-1ST-1ST_W0QQitemZ250274769641QQihZ015QQcategoryZ29223Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Reported
reported

Hutch
07-28-2008, 05:57 PM
bidding is now over $350 for this hunk of junk


reported all. that one was laughable. even i knew that the sig had been traced and i suck at this. :lol:

Room 217 Caretaker
07-29-2008, 02:47 AM
bidding is now over $350 for this hunk of junk


reported all. that one was laughable. even i knew that the sig had been traced and i suck at this. :lol:

I reported this one a little different. I selected inappropriate/misleading title. It's not a first edition let alone a true signature.

In fact this one really pisses me off. We haven't cranked up the "Let's Play Ebay BS" game for a while. I think this one warrants opening up a game.

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

Room 217 Caretaker
07-29-2008, 02:53 AM
Looks like we have our next contestant in "Let's Play Ebay BS"

Seller :clap: tkopictures COME ON DOWN:

http://cgi.ebay.com/THE-SHINING-Stephen-King-SIGNED-HC-DJ-1St-Ed_W0QQitemZ260267983499QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item26 0267983499&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318

tkopictures.....you have been called out to play Ebay BS....Your tracing skills are aweful, and you can't tell a first edition even if it was in clear text. Your a true rip off...:shoot:

OK DT Members. It's time to set the BS meter.

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

lophophoras
07-29-2008, 03:01 AM
Looks like we have our next contestant in "Let's Play Ebay BS"

Seller :clap: tkopictures COME ON DOWN:

http://cgi.ebay.com/THE-SHINING-Stephen-King-SIGNED-HC-DJ-1St-Ed_W0QQitemZ260267983499QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item26 0267983499&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318

tkopictures.....you have been called out to play Ebay BS....Your tracing skills are aweful, and you can't tell a first edition even if it was in clear text. Your a true rip off...:shoot:

OK DT Members. It's time to set the BS meter.

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

Why hasn't Ebay cancelled this auction? It is clearly a fake and has been reported multiple times. I guess it is all about the money they will make from the sell and with this one being at $355, go figure. I have some books lying around I could trace some signatures into and sell also, looks like it is profitable and unpunishable. :angry:

wizardsrainbow
07-29-2008, 03:41 AM
That's just plain awful!

lophophoras
07-29-2008, 03:45 AM
What do you guys think about this?

http://cgi.ebay.com/STEPHEN-KING-GIRL-WHO-LOVED-TOM-GORDON-SIGNED-POP-UP_W0QQitemZ130242474735QQihZ003QQcategoryZ29223QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

wizardsrainbow
07-29-2008, 03:55 AM
What do you guys think about this?

http://cgi.ebay.com/STEPHEN-KING-GIRL-WHO-LOVED-TOM-GORDON-SIGNED-POP-UP_W0QQitemZ130242474735QQihZ003QQcategoryZ29223QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I'm not the expert like Bob and Dave, but if it was signed quickly, it's possible it is ok, but I don't like the sig overall. And I think the book is crap, plus at $250? No thanks.

lophophoras
07-29-2008, 04:00 AM
What do you guys think about this?

http://cgi.ebay.com/STEPHEN-KING-GIRL-WHO-LOVED-TOM-GORDON-SIGNED-POP-UP_W0QQitemZ130242474735QQihZ003QQcategoryZ29223QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I'm not the expert like Bob and Dave, but if it was signed quickly, it's possible it is ok, but I don't like the sig overall. And I think the book is crap, plus at $250? No thanks.

LOL...They do give the option to make a offer. ;)

Thanks Wiz!

jhanic
07-29-2008, 04:48 AM
It doesn't look good to me. Didn't King sign a number of these, but with silver ink?

John

Randall Flagg
07-29-2008, 06:20 AM
Reported the horribly faked The Shining also.

tippy4
07-29-2008, 07:58 AM
It doesn't look good to me. Didn't King sign a number of these, but with silver ink?

John

You are correct. I believe he did a single signing, and they were signed with a metallic silver marker.

This is the third time this seller has listed this.

I had one of these for a short while, but sold it as I was not "into" signed trade editions at the time. Kicking myself now. :cry:

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/9168/tgud9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Patrick
07-29-2008, 09:26 AM
As noted somewhere in this forum a while back, I also have a signed trade TGWLTG from that same signing as Tippy's.

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Really that sig in The Stand listing is horrible.

Patrick
07-29-2008, 09:29 AM
Looks like we have our next contestant in "Let's Play Ebay BS"

Seller :clap: tkopictures COME ON DOWN:

http://cgi.ebay.com/THE-SHINING-Stephen-King-SIGNED-HC-DJ-1St-Ed_W0QQitemZ260267983499QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item26 0267983499&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318

tkopictures.....you have been called out to play Ebay BS....Your tracing skills are aweful, and you can't tell a first edition even if it was in clear text. Your a true rip off...:shoot:

OK DT Members. It's time to set the BS meter.

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

Why hasn't Ebay cancelled this auction? It is clearly a fake and has been reported multiple times. I guess it is all about the money they will make from the sell and with this one being at $355, go figure. I have some books lying around I could trace some signatures into and sell also, looks like it is profitable and unpunishable. :angry:

The sad thing is that if the auction goes through, aside from buyer getting ripped off, if they ever try to sell the book in good faith down the road, they themselves will be branded a fake and a fraud.

gsvec
07-29-2008, 05:23 PM
It doesn't look good to me. Didn't King sign a number of these, but with silver ink?

John

And if he really DID sign it, how can it still be sealed? :unsure:

Hutch
07-29-2008, 06:05 PM
now over $500 for this traced BCE


http://cgi.ebay.com/THE-SHINING-Stephen-King-SIGNED-HC-DJ-1St-Ed_W0QQitemZ260267983499QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item26 0267983499&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318

Also not a first edition as described. It's a full sized BCE

reported

Rahfa
07-29-2008, 07:04 PM
There are just two people bidding at the current level...and this wouldn't be worth $500 if it was authentic...and in this economy?

The bidding stinks to me as much as the signature...haha...

The Lady of Shadows
07-29-2008, 07:04 PM
now over $500 for this traced BCE


http://cgi.ebay.com/THE-SHINING-Stephen-King-SIGNED-HC-DJ-1St-Ed_W0QQitemZ260267983499QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item26 0267983499&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318

Also not a first edition as described. It's a full sized BCE

reported

i've reported it and i also sent them a question asking them why they are still allowing bidding when so many people have reported it as a fake. i included a picture of the real deal and gave them hutch's website. gee, hutch, probably should have asked you first huh? :)

Hutch
07-29-2008, 08:25 PM
I've found that early authentically signed 1st editions of The Shining are difficult to find. Condition dependent and if signed and dated the year of publication ....I'd say in fine well minimum $1200.

BTW...that piece of junk is now at $610


There are just two people bidding at the current level...and this wouldn't be worth $500 if it was authentic...and in this economy?

The bidding stinks to me as much as the signature...haha...

Calla_Wolf
07-30-2008, 05:15 AM
I'm pretty sure we've had a discussion about this seller before:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-From-a-Buick-8-Signed-1st-Edition_W0QQitemZ200242065749QQihZ010QQcategoryZ29 223QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

Ridiculous

Rahfa
07-30-2008, 07:28 AM
Right, Hutch. I agree...but it's not a first edition, or a dated signature...if the listing was accurate (BCE), and it was actualy a real signautue without any date or anything...then it would not be worth what the bid is...

So the "winning" bidder is overpaying, even if the item was real.

lophophoras
07-31-2008, 02:48 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-signed-Geralds-Game-HB_W0QQitemZ180271834856QQihZ008QQcategoryZ14433QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

And another one.

tippy4
08-04-2008, 02:33 PM
Well waddya think...did I get a great deal or did I get ripped off

Stephen King - Misery - 1st Edition (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110275602039)

Signature looks good to me.

Opinions?

carlosdetweiller
08-04-2008, 02:40 PM
Well waddya think...did I get a great deal or did I get ripped off

Stephen King - Misery - 1st Edition (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110275602039)

Signature looks good to me.

Opinions?

It looks just fine to me.

tippy4
08-04-2008, 03:22 PM
Thanks Bob. I agree with your assessment.

Unfortunately for the seller (and fortunately for me) I think the fact that he mentioned in the auction that the book originally came from a seller of forged books hurt the final price on it.

wizardsrainbow
08-04-2008, 10:37 PM
Well waddya think...did I get a great deal or did I get ripped off

Stephen King - Misery - 1st Edition (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110275602039)

Signature looks good to me.

Opinions?

Looks fine to me.

jhanic
08-05-2008, 01:47 AM
I would also say it looks okay to me. Good buy!

John

CRinVA
08-05-2008, 07:26 AM
Really it has become extremely difficult to snag an authentic King Sig at a price like that - congrats on a great buy!

Patrick
08-06-2008, 08:36 PM
Nice!

super sam
08-08-2008, 12:09 AM
Is this signature real or fake? Thanks!

http://www.tradera.com/Stephen_King_signerat_foto_43_COA_-auktion-69895281

jhanic
08-08-2008, 03:17 AM
Fake.

John

Mr. Rabbit Trick
08-08-2008, 03:30 AM
Fake.