The eBay BS Game: Questionable items, Stephen King signatures, sellers

[alltimegreatauthentics]

I've seen more garbage Stephen King signatures on eBay with PSA stickers than legitimate ones. In my opinion, a PSA sticker is more of a guarantee of fraud than authenticity. I wouldn't waste your money.


Personally I agree with you, and could give you numerous examples of items I know to be fraudulent that those companies have authenticated. The fact of the matter is their reputation is still more well-known than mine, and their certificate gives people peace of mind I can't provide. I also agree the sticker they affix is an eyesore, if/when I do have items authenticated, I will have their stickers placed on the back of the book, or not on the book at all.

Thanks to all who've read or responded giving their opinions, or just checking out the listing. For obvious reasons, I can only go into so much detail about how and where we meet SK, but I do share that information in full with our buyers. Mr. King is an eccentric man to say the least, and has declined to sign for us many times, making it all the more exciting when he does agree to sign for us.

[Merlin1958]

If someone told me, in order for my collection to be legit I had to get JSA or PSA certifications, I would give my $250,000 valued art and book collection away. I've seen more fraud committed by JSA and PSA than I have seen forged signatures on Abe, Ebay, and Craig's List combined.

I respect your business, and have purchased from repuitable people like yourself, so I am in no way saying the signatures are forged, in fact, after looking at your current King offerings, they are legit. What I'm saying, don't put the reputation of your families business on JSA or PSA because serious collectors laugh eveytime it's mentioned.

With all that said Matt, welcome to our site. Please share with us your stories of how the signatures come about. Sometimes the stories of how obtained are nicer than the signature itself.

Ralph Mulleins
Virginia


Well spoken as usual, Ralph. Welcome to the site, Matt!!!

[AKC]

How is this ass clown still on eBay? I bet I've reported him/her a minimum of 50 times....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IT-SIGNED-BY-STEPHEN-KING-HC-DJ-1ST-1ST-/121863117186?hash=item1c5f9b9982:g:NekAAOSwa-dWlGI7

[Br!an]

eBay gets a percentage? Or was that a rhetorical question?

[goheat]

How is this ass clown still on eBay? I bet I've reported him/her a minimum of 50 times....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IT-SIGNED-BY-STEPHEN-KING-HC-DJ-1ST-1ST-/121863117186?hash=item1c5f9b9982:g:NekAAOSwa-dWlGI7

Yeah, and still has 100% positive feedback! Most auctions are Private, conveniently...

[AKC]

What a mess. Seller claims a Limited Edition IT with no # for sale and has included several supporting pics of the Gift Edition....

#WTF

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-IT-signed-limited-25th-anniversary-special-edition-blank-750-/281905937995?hash=item41a2e73e4b:g:cOoAAOSwJkJWkr6 7

[Room 217 Caretaker]

What a mess. Seller claims a Limited Edition IT with no # for sale and has included several supporting pics of the Gift Edition....

#WTF

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-IT-signed-limited-25th-anniversary-special-edition-blank-750-/281905937995?hash=item41a2e73e4b:g:cOoAAOSwJkJWkr6 7

If memory serves me well, Cemetery Dance accidentally sent out some S/L books inside slipcases. They tried hard to get them back. I'm assuming this is one of them.

Of course, I typing this before my morning coffee so I could be wrong.

Mulleins

[AKC]

Pics show a Gift Edition Dustjacket.....

[jsmcmullen92]

Very interesting. Gift edition DJ in slipcase with signed page tipped in. I wonder if it is the S/L book under the DJ or the Gift.

[Dan]

What a mess. Seller claims a Limited Edition IT with no # for sale and has included several supporting pics of the Gift Edition....

#WTF

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-IT-signed-limited-25th-anniversary-special-edition-blank-750-/281905937995?hash=item41a2e73e4b:g:cOoAAOSwJkJWkr6 7

If memory serves me well, Cemetery Dance accidentally sent out some S/L books inside slipcases. They tried hard to get them back. I'm assuming this is one of them.

Of course, I typing this before my morning coffee so I could be wrong.

Mulleins

I seem to recall this, also. Quite optimistic on price.

[CurtSeattle]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FIRESTARTER-1980-SIGNED-AUTOGRAPHED-by-Stephen-King-Hardcover-/281909388361?hash=item41a31be449:g:~DIAAOSw~otWcJ1 U

Did Stephen King change the spelling of his last name to Knig? hmmm

[OneFathom]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FIRESTARTER-1980-SIGNED-AUTOGRAPHED-by-Stephen-King-Hardcover-/281909388361?hash=item41a31be449:g:~DIAAOSw~otWcJ1 U

Did Stephen King change the spelling of his last name to Knig? hmmm

There are numerous examples where it appears he dots the "i" like that. This example is legit. Great signature!

[Randall Flagg]

The signature is legit (IMO), the question is what is the book worth? Description and pictures are lacking, the book has "Anne Girard" written in it directly above King's signature.
Pass.

[carlosdetweiller]

The signature is legit (IMO), the question is what is the book worth?

Actually the question was "Did Stephen King change the spelling of his last name to Knig?"

[Randall Flagg]

The signature is legit (IMO), the question is what is the book worth?

Actually the question was "Did Stephen King change the spelling of his last name to Knig?"
I didn't quote or address that question as it seemed superfluous given that post #9012 addressed the question.
My post (#9013) stated my opinion on the validity of King's signature, then pondered what the book is worth given insufficient images and description as well as the name written directly above King's signature.

[carlosdetweiller]

The signature is legit (IMO), the question is what is the book worth?

Actually the question was "Did Stephen King change the spelling of his last name to Knig?"
I didn't quote or address that question as it seemed superfluous given that post #9012 addressed the question.
My post (#9013) stated my opinion on the validity of King's signature, then pondered what the book is worth given insufficient images and description as well as the name written directly above King's signature.

I misunderstood when you referred to THE question rather than offer up a newly identified question.

[jsmcmullen92]

The signature is legit (IMO), the question is what is the book worth?

Actually the question was "Did Stephen King change the spelling of his last name to Knig?"
I didn't quote or address that question as it seemed superfluous given that post #9012 addressed the question.
My post (#9013) stated my opinion on the validity of King's signature, then pondered what the book is worth given insufficient images and description as well as the name written directly above King's signature.

I misunderstood when you referred to THE question rather than offer up a newly identified question.

You two are like a married couple sometimes lol

[CurtSeattle]

I gleaned the answer was "no" from the comments above. :)

[CurtSeattle]

Okay, Team King, what about this signature set?
http://s12.postimg.org/ymy55olw9/talisman_signatures.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/ymy55olw9/)

"S" looks bad to me. I get that the "g" can sometimes have a bad loop, but the "S" jumps out at me.
thx
curt

[AKC]

Blue is bad as far as I can tell from my cell phone! Looks like a lot of "stops and starts" throughout the sig.

[Randall Flagg]

Okay, Team King, what about this signature set?
http://s12.postimg.org/ymy55olw9/talisman_signatures.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/ymy55olw9/)

"S" looks bad to me. I get that the "g" can sometimes have a bad loop, but the "S" jumps out at me.
thx
curt


Not enough "perspective" to say on the middle (blue-dated 8/10/94), but the sig from the left S/L seems to be legit. The right image seems to be fine (12/6/95)

[CurtSeattle]

Well, the two on the outside are legit for sure I would assume based on the provenance and the one in the middle is what I bought. I guess if and when I sell it (which I guess I probably will when I find a better one), I will just volunteer that I didn't see it signed personally and that I cannot vouch for it being 100% legitimate though it was sold to me that way. Conscience clear. :)

[carlosdetweiller]

Well, the two on the outside are legit for sure I would assume based on the provenance and the one in the middle is what I bought. I guess if and when I sell it (which I guess I probably will when I find a better one), I will just volunteer that I didn't see it signed personally and that I cannot vouch for it being 100% legitimate though it was sold to me that way. Conscience clear. :)

Why don't you tell the members the username of the eBay seller from whom you bought the book?

Also, I'm surprised you are not getting more help on this thread with your evaluation. Maybe it is because it is the weekend. If the consensus of the forum is that it is not legit I don't think you should feel that you need to keep the book.

[Randall Flagg]

I'm happy to give my opinion and I did for the easy two.
The middle one (to me) doesn't provide enough info for me to render an opinion.
My lack of opinion means little, but I choose not to endorse it.
As Bob mentioned, more info would help.

[idlewarnings]

I don't like the middle signature.

[WeDealInLead]

I don't like the middle signature.

Ditto. I'm not sure what the sellers username is now, but that Iooks like a typical allstarbooks deal. He never mastered the loop. It's always too sharp.

[Br!an]

My first impression is that I don't like the middle one either. A picture of the whole page might help refine that opinion.

edit: I found the listing. Now I really don't like it! It is allstarbooks. :panic:

You should return it or burn it.

[T-Dogz_AK47]

My first impression is that I don't like the middle one either. A picture of the whole page might help refine that opinion.

edit: I found the listing. Now I really don't like it! It is allstarbooks. :panic:

You should return it or burn it.

Do you have a link to that listing? I really want to see how truly horrific allstarbooks are....

[Br!an]

Sure, I had meant to post it anyway.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-TALISMAN-SIGNED-STEPHEN-KING-HC-DJ-FIRST-PRINT-FIRST-EDITION-/111866459052?hash=item1a0bc2b3ac%3Ag%3AgqkAAOSwLN5 Wix9c&nma=true&si=KkP7IkF8Zx%252BtfXDAZ2asyRWmct8%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

[AKC]

Blue is bad as far as I can tell from my cell phone! Looks like a lot of "stops and starts" throughout the sig.

Yep, seeing it on a larger scale, both on my computer and the original eBay listing, not any good at all.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Blue is bad as far as I can tell from my cell phone! Looks like a lot of "stops and starts" throughout the sig.

Yep, seeing it on a larger scale, both on my computer and the original eBay listing, not any good at all.

And, from a scum seller. I'm not angry at EBay, Abe's, Amazon, etc. because they are just vehicles to move products. I'm disappointed in Kings office for not hiring (I've offered to do the job) a person to officially work on behalf of Kings business operation, and shut these scum down. The program works, King's office simply needs to get involved. If you want to see how it works, find a bootleg Star Wars item, place it on EBay, sit back and wait.

Mulleins

[tippy4]

I think there is a difference between a bootleg item and a legit item with a forged signature.

I hate these guys too....but why would King's office pay someone to monitor this?.....what would be the ROI?

[CurtSeattle]

Thanks everyone for giving your expert opinions. Sounds like I was duped on this one.

I checked their feedback and it was 100%, so didn't worry too much. No worries, I will deal with it (whether I return it or just keep it as an example of a fake one to show my friends). Only $100 and that's nothing really in the scheme of things with the value of my whole collection (King and others). It is frustrating that a business is being run on false pretenses and would not be viable EXCEPT for EBay enabling them and getting them the eyeballs and corresponding clients to dupe.

Curt

EDIT: I just blasted the seller and demanded a refund for "I don't believe this is authentic". Won't help, but I think they cover shipping back, so I will see if that is true and, if so, then maybe if we all buy the auctions and then continually return them on the seller's dime, it will slow it down? shrug...

[Room 217 Caretaker]

I think there is a difference between a bootleg item and a legit item with a forged signature.

I hate these guys too....but why would King's office pay someone to monitor this?.....what would be the ROI?

OK....I would do it for free.....why? Because I care.

Mulleins

[Randall Flagg]

Thanks everyone for giving your expert opinions. Sounds like I was duped on this one.

I checked their feedback and it was 100%, so didn't worry too much. No worries, I will deal with it (whether I return it or just keep it as an example of a fake one to show my friends). Only $100 and that's nothing really in the scheme of things with the value of my whole collection (King and others). It is frustrating that a business is being run on false pretenses and would not be viable EXCEPT for EBay enabling them and getting them the eyeballs and corresponding clients to dupe.

Curt

EDIT: I just blasted the seller and demanded a refund for "I don't believe this is authentic". Won't help, but I think they cover shipping back, so I will see if that is true and, if so, then maybe if we all buy the auctions and then continually return them on the seller's dime, it will slow it down? shrug...

Sign "Albert Einstein" on the back side of the page with King's bogus signature, then return the book for a refund.

[CurtSeattle]

Thanks everyone for giving your expert opinions. Sounds like I was duped on this one.

I checked their feedback and it was 100%, so didn't worry too much. No worries, I will deal with it (whether I return it or just keep it as an example of a fake one to show my friends). Only $100 and that's nothing really in the scheme of things with the value of my whole collection (King and others). It is frustrating that a business is being run on false pretenses and would not be viable EXCEPT for EBay enabling them and getting them the eyeballs and corresponding clients to dupe.

Curt

EDIT: I just blasted the seller and demanded a refund for "I don't believe this is authentic". Won't help, but I think they cover shipping back, so I will see if that is true and, if so, then maybe if we all buy the auctions and then continually return them on the seller's dime, it will slow it down? shrug...

Sign "Albert Einstein" on the back side of the page with King's bogus signature, then return the book for a refund.

LOL!! They already responded and I can print a shipping label and return it on their dime it looks like, so that costs them whatever listing/selling/shipping they get hit for after a return. Melissa is who responded and was very apologetic and said that most of their sales are consignment sales. (Same argument as EBay if you think of it). Sucks to get rid of my only signed The Talisman, but it was a crappy copy anyway and if it was signed by Bill McGullicutty in the style of Stephen King then not really giving up much anyway.

p.s. My apologies if anyone is named Bill McGullicutty, but I needed a random name! :)

[carlosdetweiller]

I'm glad you are sending it back, Curt. BTW, Melissa is full of s**t, IMO.

[Randall Flagg]

I'm sticking with the Albert Einstein suggestion. That and a full refund are a win/win.

[redsoxfan565]

I think there is a difference between a bootleg item and a legit item with a forged signature.

I hate these guys too....but why would King's office pay someone to monitor this?.....what would be the ROI?

I think the problem I have is that Kings office has gone through so much trouble the last few national book tours with the random book lotteries for signed books, to avoid people selling them, that this would seem like a no brainer. They have gone out of their way to make the normal event for him random signed books, in an effort to sell more tickets to speaking venues, and to try and prevent autograph resellers from flipping the books.

Which in reality does the inverse of you want because you are creating more of a demand and less supply, which encourages forgeries more.

Why spend so much time on trying to stop people who legitimately want to stand in line for 4 hours getting his book signed to sell it, as opposed to creating some sort of group based on their office to help report and take down the sellers of these forged books? It doesn't make any sense, especially when we have seen the same 3-4 mass forgers continuously sell the same stuff for years.

[AKC]

What a mess. Seller claims a Limited Edition IT with no # for sale and has included several supporting pics of the Gift Edition....

#WTF

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-IT-signed-limited-25th-anniversary-special-edition-blank-750-/281905937995?hash=item41a2e73e4b:g:cOoAAOSwJkJWkr6 7

Who here got it?

[Randall Flagg]

Someone for $699.
Can't say who.

[Dan]

Because who the hell wants a book to go with their signature

http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/301853050435

[sharki69]

Wow...

King took the time to sign and date at Grisham event last night

http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/262251393987

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Wow...

http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/262251393987

Who ever forged it also used the same sharpie on the IT.

Mulleins

[webstar1000]

I reported him. More should.

[Shannon]

Not eBay, but possibly questionable:

http://bookrevue.com/rare.html

What do you guys think?

[firemonkey66]

Because who the hell wants a book to go with their signature

http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/301853050435

LOL, seriously. Why buy a signed Revival for 200 dollars when you can spend 700 dollars for a signed chunk of one page from Revival?

[firemonkey66]

Not eBay, but possibly questionable:

http://bookrevue.com/rare.html

What do you guys think?

That Dark Half is shit.

[Br!an]

Not eBay, but possibly questionable:

http://bookrevue.com/rare.html

What do you guys think?
thumbsdownsmall

[jhanic]

I agree. thumbsdownsmall

John

[Bunyip]

Thoughts on this one?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stephen-King-Signed-Cell-First-Edition-Book-/281912865938?hash=item41a350f492:g:Yc0AAOSwoydWnRF C

[Br!an]

thumbsdownsmall

[jhanic]

thumbsdownlarge

John

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Thoughts on this one?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stephen-King-Signed-Cell-First-Edition-Book-/281912865938?hash=item41a350f492:g:Yc0AAOSwoydWnRF C

Very bad fake. I was at all the London signings and he only used blue pens.

[stroppygoblin]

I'm not so sure, it's an ugly sig I grant you, but fake? I think it's possibly OK, but I wouldn't buy it.

[carlosdetweiller]

I don't know about London and blue pens and all, but that isn't King's signature.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

It's fake for sure. On top of that, this seller sells fakes. I have records of her sells from a year or so ago.

Stay FAR away.

Mulleins

[firemonkey66]

Why do I get the feeling that the person who signed this COA also signed the book... Or at the very least, they shouldn't quit their day job in order to pursue their career in authenticating signatures.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-signed-Dark-Tower-V-Wolves-Of-The-Calla-autograph-hardcover-/151959364173?hash=item23617be24d:g:qV4AAOSwoydWoow 7

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Why do I get the feeling that the person who signed this COA also signed the book... Or at the very least, they shouldn't quit their day job in order to pursue their career in authenticating signatures.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-signed-Dark-Tower-V-Wolves-Of-The-Calla-autograph-hardcover-/151959364173?hash=item23617be24d:g:qV4AAOSwoydWoow 7

You are correct. Someone already bid $200.

Why o why can't buyers do research first?

Mulleins

[Bunyip]

Dreadful.

[Randall Flagg]

Pretty slick. Seller posts several 24 hour auctions on weekend when less likely to be reported and have listing removed.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/booksandcomicsandthings/m.html?item=272114011645&hash=item3f5b424dfd%3Ag%3AJZAAAOSw5dNWo-bH&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Pretty slick. Seller posts several 24 hour auctions on weekend when less likely to be reported and have listing removed.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/booksandcomicsandthings/m.html?item=272114011645&hash=item3f5b424dfd%3Ag%3AJZAAAOSw5dNWo-bH&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562

Known forger from West Virginia.

[Randall Flagg]

I'm aware of that, but it's a refined technique (for the unwitting buyer). I'd guess if 20 members here reported the auction(s), they would have a good chance of being pulled (and re-posted a short time later).

[T-Dogz_AK47]

This is so bad, I think the seller is just taking the piss.... :doh:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/IT-Signed-By-Stephen-King-First-Printing (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/IT-Signed-By-Stephen-King-First-Printing/291655779936?_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%2 6asc%3D20140221143405%26meid%3D7c14b66156a94f9cadf b3bce45425482%26pid%3D100010%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D15%2 6sd%3D181980008437)

[WeDealInLead]

Pretty slick. Seller posts several 24 hour auctions on weekend when less likely to be reported and have listing removed.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/booksandcomicsandthings/m.html?item=272114011645&hash=item3f5b424dfd%3Ag%3AJZAAAOSw5dNWo-bH&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562

Known forger from West Virginia.

I just reported them all. I wonder how many reports does it take for eBay to take an item down.

[tippy4]

I was on the fence about THIS (http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Dark-Half-signed-by-Stephen-King-1989-Hardcover-/191790789039?hash=item2ca79f31af:g:jKQAAOSwKtlWpOk B), until I saw THIS (http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Dead-Zone-Signed-by-Stephen-King-1979-Hardcover-/191790570169?hash=item2ca79bdab9:g:lHcAAOSwX~dWpHn L) from the same seller.

The Dead Zone and The Dark Half being sold by stonecoldcollectibles.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

I was on the fence about THIS (http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Dark-Half-signed-by-Stephen-King-1989-Hardcover-/191790789039?hash=item2ca79f31af:g:jKQAAOSwKtlWpOk B), until I saw THIS (http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Dead-Zone-Signed-by-Stephen-King-1979-Hardcover-/191790570169?hash=item2ca79bdab9:g:lHcAAOSwX~dWpHn L) from the same seller.

The Dead Zone and The Dark Half being sold by stonecoldcollectibles.

This is the same seller who sold a forged Finders Keepers among other forged items.

Mulleins

[Ari_Racing]

Thoughts?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MISERY-Stephen-King-Hardcover-1st-1st-SIGNED-/131710269696?hash=item1eaa8b3900:g:d4QAAOSwqYBWpbY q

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-DARK-HALF-Stephen-King-Hardcover-1st-1st-SIGNED-/141886656093?hash=item21091a8e5d:g:2yIAAOSwX~dWpbU T

http://www.ebay.com/itm/INSOMNIA-Stephen-King-Hardcover-1st-1st-SIGNED-/141886659689?hash=item21091a9c69:g:3l4AAOSwoydWpbc k

[goheat]

Thoughts?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MISERY-Stephen-King-Hardcover-1st-1st-SIGNED-/131710269696?hash=item1eaa8b3900:g:d4QAAOSwqYBWpbY q

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-DARK-HALF-Stephen-King-Hardcover-1st-1st-SIGNED-/141886656093?hash=item21091a8e5d:g:2yIAAOSwX~dWpbU T

http://www.ebay.com/itm/INSOMNIA-Stephen-King-Hardcover-1st-1st-SIGNED-/141886659689?hash=item21091a9c69:g:3l4AAOSwoydWpbc k

Ari, I think they are all fake.

[Randall Flagg]

All bogus.

[T-Dogz_AK47]

Definitely, definitely, definitely..... FAKE!!!!

[tippy4]

Thoughts?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MISERY-Stephen-King-Hardcover-1st-1st-SIGNED-/131710269696?hash=item1eaa8b3900:g:d4QAAOSwqYBWpbY q

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-DARK-HALF-Stephen-King-Hardcover-1st-1st-SIGNED-/141886656093?hash=item21091a8e5d:g:2yIAAOSwX~dWpbU T

http://www.ebay.com/itm/INSOMNIA-Stephen-King-Hardcover-1st-1st-SIGNED-/141886659689?hash=item21091a9c69:g:3l4AAOSwoydWpbc k

Ari, I think they are all fake.

I concur...although as forgeries go they are pretty good.

[Br!an]

I noticed these the other day...

http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?226-Intriguing-Stephen-King-King-Related-Dark-Tower-Auctions-Sales&p=975432&viewfull=1#post975432

I should have posted in this thread too. :doh:

[CurtSeattle]

I'm aware of that, but it's a refined technique (for the unwitting buyer). I'd guess if 20 members here reported the auction(s), they would have a good chance of being pulled (and re-posted a short time later).

I will right now. The only way to stop it is to be relentless. Look at the Different Seasons signature and date. The "g" is for sure wrong. Never seen it like that. King goes reverse on "g" right? and no line on it normally either missing the circle.

(like these "horsetails" I had in my yard for years...I had to cut them EVERY SINGLE time I saw one sprouting. After 15 years, I am still battling, but there are only 3 or 4 that come up each year in random spots and I am soooo close to being done with them...but I digress...)

p.s. Look at the Different Seasons signature and date. The "g" is for sure wrong. Never seen it like that. King goes reverse on "g" right not normal direction like this signature?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DIFFERENT-SEASONS-Stephen-King-1982-1ST-1ST-SIGNED-/141877303362?hash=item21088bd842:g:yPAAAOSwiwVWR9m z

and I reported this! http://www.ebay.com/itm/SALEMS-LOT-Stephen-King-HC-True-1st-Edition-2nd-State-Cody-SIGNED-/131707568240?hash=item1eaa620070:g:CgsAAOSw5IJWegk D

[Priest]

If somebody from the fellows here has some expertise to share on Abercrombie I posted a signature question here http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?18985-The-Collectible-Joe-Abercrombie&p=975939#post975939

[cit74]

If somebody from the fellows here has some expertise to share on Abercrombie I posted a signature question here http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?18985-The-Collectible-Joe-Abercrombie&p=975939#post975939

no expert by any imagination - but i threw my two cents out there

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

What's the verdict on this Stephen King signature? Real or fake?

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/563/Sign_Jan94.jpg

[Bev Vincent]

I hardly ever offer an opinion here because I don't study signatures, but that's the worst godawful thing I've seen in ages.

[Br!an]

The funny thing is it's probably real.

[Randall Flagg]

Since my opinion is free, I'll go out on a limb and say it's legit. I'd like a wider shot to see why there is a dash in the loop at upper left.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

I hardly ever offer an opinion here because I don't study signatures, but that's the worst godawful thing I've seen in ages.

Totally agree Bev. But it is 100% verifiably REAL!.

[sgc1999]

looks like one of his quickies.

[Randall Flagg]

looks like one of his quickies.
I disagree. It's (IMO) a legit signature with King signing as "Steve King", but adding the flair of the overloop. Perhaps he hadn't perfected the "signature" signature.

[Randall Flagg]

BTW, If I end up wrong and I'm "fodder" for Mr. Rabbit Trick then so be it.

[stroppygoblin]

looks like one of his quickies.
I disagree. It's (IMO) a legit signature with King signing as "Steve King", but adding the flair of the overloop. Perhaps he hadn't perfected the "signature" signature.

it's almost a 'transition' signature between his early and now more common form. (MR R.T already confirmed it's real)

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

looks like one of his quickies.
I disagree. It's (IMO) a legit signature with King signing as "Steve King", but adding the flair of the overloop. Perhaps he hadn't perfected the "signature" signature.

it's almost a 'transition' signature between his early and now more common form. (MR R.T already confirmed it's real)

Its from January 1994.

[jsmcmullen92]

BA HAHA HAHAHAHAA this is amazing!

11/22/63 (http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=17021806181&searchurl=bi%3D0%26ds%3D30%26sts%3Dt%26bx%3Doff%26 pics%3Don%26sortby%3D1%26tn%3D11%252F22%252F63%26a n%3DKing%26recentlyadded%3Dall)

[goheat]

BA HAHA HAHAHAHAA this is amazing!

11/22/63 (http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=17021806181&searchurl=bi%3D0%26ds%3D30%26sts%3Dt%26bx%3Doff%26 pics%3Don%26sortby%3D1%26tn%3D11%252F22%252F63%26a n%3DKing%26recentlyadded%3Dall)

WOW is all I can say to that. :nope:

[Merlin1958]

BA HAHA HAHAHAHAA this is amazing!

11/22/63 (http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=17021806181&searchurl=bi%3D0%26ds%3D30%26sts%3Dt%26bx%3Doff%26 pics%3Don%26sortby%3D1%26tn%3D11%252F22%252F63%26a n%3DKing%26recentlyadded%3Dall)

WOW is all I can say to that. :nope:

And they're a "reputable" seller? LOL

[Bunyip]

Shameful. Do Abes not authenticate or take any responsibility/liability?

[Br!an]

Shameful. Do Abes not authenticate or take any responsibility/liability?

They don't authenticate. They will help facilitate a refund if dissatisfied.

[T-Dogz_AK47]

Abe is riddled with forgeries. That site is a fucking disgrace! :onfire:

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Shameful. Do Abes not authenticate or take any responsibility/liability?

No! Abe, just like EBay, is an automated vehicle to move products. They don't have professionals on staff to know every signature. This is why it's so important for the buyer to do her/his homework before buying.

Mulleins

[Bunyip]

That's interesting, for whatever reason I had always imagined it was a genuine store, not an eBay style set up. I've never used them.

[T-Dogz_AK47]

A lot of the trash sellers that have been banned from eBay, reside there....

It's a playground for fraudsters!

[Randall Flagg]

That's interesting, for whatever reason I had always imagined it was a genuine store, not an eBay style set up. I've never used them.
They are a 3rd party facilitator (commission based).
In the old days (last year :) ) They had a better return/dispute policy than ebay.

Nowadays, ebay/paypal are pretty good about taking care of the customer before the retailer/seller.

[carlosdetweiller]

I like ABE. But it has changed in the last few years and not, IMO, for the better. It is overrun by mass sellers with little or no information about the books in the listings and using stock photos. Lots of legit sellers are there too. The Strand, LW Currey, John Knott, Mark Zeising, etc. all list their stock on ABE. I'm careful about who I buy from and ask lots of questions if I'm not sure. I buy more books from ABE these days than eBay.

[sentinel]

I use ABE a lot also, and it has gone down hill, since Amazon bought it.

[Joe315]

I use ABE a lot also, and it has gone down hill, since Amazon bought it.

Agree. I still use it but only for a few sellers I've purchased from in the past. They really need to work on their rating system. Having a star system is nice but it only tracks return rates.

[Randall Flagg]

Legit item, but $499 BIN is a bit high. The auction states $4 shipping, but the seller wants $46 added.
Stephen King Salem's Lot Centipede Press Limited to 600 - SEALED and MINT !! (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-Salems-Lot-Centipede-Press-Limited-to-600-SEALED-and-MINT-/301868272169?hash=item4648c04a29:g:M3UAAOSwZ1lWfXY F)

[Br!an]

I can add a handling charge or set up the shipping to calculate depending on location when I list an item on eBay.

I don't understand why they can't do it in other countries.

[Bunyip]

http://imgur.com/a/qCXOn
Any thoughts on this one?

[Bunyip]

Always struggle to load pics properly.

[Br!an]

http://i.imgur.com/mfIyeQN.jpg
Any thoughts on this one?

You have to right click the picture and select "View Image" you can then use that URL.

[Br!an]

BTW my opinion is no.

Though King was known to drink occasionally.

[Bunyip]

Ha! Thanks mate. I thought it look pretty good. There's quite a few variants out there.

[carlosdetweiller]

I'm pretty sure that is not King's signature (from the drinking days or not).

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Nope, not Kings. Maybe his housekeeper, but not Kings.

Mulleins

[herbertwest]

hmmm
>>> http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Stephen-King-Signed-Limited-Edition-100-Pure-Cotton-Canvas-Image-2006-/161958723830?hash=item25b57e00f6:g:NXAAAOSwstxVafT f
>>> http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Stephen-King-Signed-100-fine-art-Cotton-Canvas-Image-Limited-Edition-135-/321979286155?hash=item4af776028b:g:He8AAOSwrklVgBE e

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODIzWDEyNjk=/z/He8AAOSwrklVgBEe/$_57.JPG

[Br!an]

Garbage

[sharki69]

???

http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/222020823206

[divemaster]

I think its good. Fugly, but legit. My opinion only; I've been an outlier at times.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

It's good!

[AKC]

I concur.

However, some our esteemed colleagues do not as evidenced by the discussion in the Intriguing Auctions Thread....

[Johnny007]

???

http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/222020823206

I don't think it's legit. The swirl is not as symmetrical as usual. The S, t, and h in Stephen are not slanted as if the signature was done in one fell swoop. I definitely don't like the h, e, and n in Stephen, either. There seems to be hesitation after the n but before starting the swirl. You can see it when you zoom on the signature. I'm not a fan of the g in King -- it looks like great care was taken to copy another signature. When you compare this signature to many recent SK signatures this one looks "wimpy." Compare this signature to the signature on the copy sold via eBay in mid-December. They are signatures by two different people in my opinion and I would not own it in my collection at any price.

[webstar1000]

See my post in Ebay thread.. this is garbage.

[Br!an]

See my post in Ebay thread.. this is garbage.

This is the eBay thread. :orely:

[webstar1000]

See my post in Ebay thread.. this is garbage.

This is the eBay thread. :orely:

haha I meant the for sale thread silly!

[AKC]

So what you guys are saying is that there won't be a lot of competition at the end of the auction for this one?

:clap:

[carlosdetweiller]

So what you guys are saying is that there won't be a lot of competition at the end of the auction for this one?

:clap:

I have no idea about late bidding or not. I'm just saying I wouldn't bid on it personally.

[goheat]

This is a fake, IMHO. Forger tried to use a similar blue pen like King, but failed! SIGNED Stephen King ~ FULL DARK, NO STARS (http://www.ebay.com/itm/SIGNED-Stephen-King-FULL-DARK-NO-STARS-2010-1st-1st-HC-DJ-NICE-/322005481745?hash=item4af905b911:g:FpgAAOSwzhVWrtM f)

[carlosdetweiller]

This is a fake, IMHO. Forger tried to use a similar blue pen like King, but failed! SIGNED Stephen King ~ FULL DARK, NO STARS (http://www.ebay.com/itm/SIGNED-Stephen-King-FULL-DARK-NO-STARS-2010-1st-1st-HC-DJ-NICE-/322005481745?hash=item4af905b911:g:FpgAAOSwzhVWrtM f)

Agree. Definitely a forgery.

[divemaster]

Ack! That's terrible.

[goheat]

Ack! That's terrible.

Yeah, and I swear we see the same forger on listings from multiple sellers. The way 'King' is written is way too similar on a number of recent crap listings...

[Johnny007]

So what you guys are saying is that there won't be a lot of competition at the end of the auction for this one?

:clap:

I have no idea about late bidding or not. I'm just saying I wouldn't bid on it personally.

Heck, there might be 100 bids on this lot. I don't think it's a legitimate signature but my opinion (and others) may take a flier on this book. There are differing opinions in this case so any bidder should take a minute or two to decide whether or not this is worth the gamble.

John

[jhanic]

This is a fake, IMHO. Forger tried to use a similar blue pen like King, but failed! SIGNED Stephen King ~ FULL DARK, NO STARS (http://www.ebay.com/itm/SIGNED-Stephen-King-FULL-DARK-NO-STARS-2010-1st-1st-HC-DJ-NICE-/322005481745?hash=item4af905b911:g:FpgAAOSwzhVWrtM f)

thumbsdownlarge

John

[carlosdetweiller]

Usually a legit seller but what about this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-IT-Viking-1986-UK-Signed-First-Edition-/252286949304?hash=item3abd7957b8:g:GQ8AAOSwzgRWwG8 m

[T-Dogz_AK47]

Usually a legit seller but what about this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-IT-Viking-1986-UK-Signed-First-Edition-/252286949304?hash=item3abd7957b8:g:GQ8AAOSwzgRWwG8 m

I don't like that at all. Hesitation and "criminal tremor". thumbsdownsmall

[Room 217 Caretaker]

With lust? Is that the inscription? Haha

[T-Dogz_AK47]

With lust? Is that the inscription? Haha

Well IT IS Valentine's Day! I guess the forger sorry, the seller oops, I mean the author must have gotten a bit carried away! LOL! :wub: :lol: :rolleyes:

[carlosdetweiller]

With lust? Is that the inscription? Haha

I didn't even notice that. I think the thing that caught my eye first was the date, even more so than the signature. Those aren't the way King's numbers look. Then I looked at the signature and confirmed (in my mind anyway) that the whole thing was bogus. I don't think I even read the inscription.

Hyraxia is beginning to really concern me. I know the owner (Simon, isn't it?) is a sometimes contributor to this website. He has had bogus listings before but has (to my knowledge) never addressed or defended them to TDT.org. I know he is a stand up guy and, I think, a nice guy. But he has listed too many bad King signatures without comment and I feel certain he knows that we have concerns.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

If someone is known to sell forgeries, he is not a "stand up guy" in my eyes.

[carlosdetweiller]

If someone is known to sell forgeries, he is not a "stand up guy" in my eyes.

Yeah, that is my concern too. I feel certain he knows that we have alerted members of this site about the most blatant forgeries he has put up for sale. And yet he has never taken them down or addressed our concerns. At least not that I am aware. He just leaves them up for sale knowing that they are bogus.

Anyone can make an honest mistake but I think I am seeing a pattern develop here.

[zelig]

It is strange because he seems to have had a good reputation until just recently. I have had a few positive dealings with him. I wonder if he simply disagrees with the signatures being forgeries and therefore says nothing and continues to sell them. Or if in fact he knows but is disregarding it and still sells them. I keep coming back to how out of character it seems for him.

[Sovereign]

http://s24.postimg.org/n0tdhwipx/image.png (http://postimage.org/)

Too good to be true? Not a lot of info was provided, but he has over 1000 positive feedback, no negative, and sells 1st editions, rare comic books, etc. I picked up up a few minutes after it was posted.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

http://s24.postimg.org/n0tdhwipx/image.png (http://postimage.org/)

Too good to be true? Not a lot of info was provided, but he has over 1000 positive feedback, no negative, and sells 1st editions, rare comic books, etc. I picked up up a few minutes after it was posted.

I asked the seller when posted....he refused to respond on jacket price or copyright page info. A good deal for sure (if it's a first).

You have every right to ask before he ships because his auction does say a first edition.

Mulleins

Mulleins

[Sovereign]

I think there's more than enough info in the title that I can easily get my money back if it turns out not to be a real 1st. I guess it was worth a shot!

[AKC]

Holy shit. Possibly the worst attempt I have ever seen....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-S-FULL-DARK-NO-STARS-SIGNED-1ST-ED-1ST-PRINT-NEAR-MINT-HC-DJ-/252288825159?hash=item3abd95f747:g:TN4AAOSwG-1WwoKV

[at_one]

Holy shit. Possibly the worst attempt I have ever seen....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-S-FULL-DARK-NO-STARS-SIGNED-1ST-ED-1ST-PRINT-NEAR-MINT-HC-DJ-/252288825159?hash=item3abd95f747:g:TN4AAOSwG-1WwoKV

I usually say nothing about sigs, but DAMN....that.is.horrible.

[goheat]

Holy shit. Possibly the worst attempt I have ever seen....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-S-FULL-DARK-NO-STARS-SIGNED-1ST-ED-1ST-PRINT-NEAR-MINT-HC-DJ-/252288825159?hash=item3abd95f747:g:TN4AAOSwG-1WwoKV

I literally laughed coffee through my nostrils at that, Tim! Amazingly awful!

[AKC]

Somebody bid on it....WTF people. Really?

[at_one]

Somebody bid on it....WTF people. Really?

It literally looks like a connect-the-dot puzzle. Especially the picture of the backside of the sig page. wOw.

[T-Dogz_AK47]

Holy shit. Possibly the worst attempt I have ever seen....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-S-FULL-DARK-NO-STARS-SIGNED-1ST-ED-1ST-PRINT-NEAR-MINT-HC-DJ-/252288825159?hash=item3abd95f747:g:TN4AAOSwG-1WwoKV

I usually say nothing about sigs, but DAMN....that.is.horrible.



Somebody bid on it....WTF people. Really?

It literally looks like a connect-the-dot puzzle. Especially the picture of the backside of the sig page. wOw.

Woah.... Hold up guys you got this one wrong! The seller has sold 1164 items and has a 100% positive feedback score, so it must be genuine right? LOL! :rolleyes:

[Bunyip]

That is sooooo wrong! Listing ended for whatever reason...ridiculous effort.

[tippy4]

???

http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/222020823206

Is it just me, or did the seller change the signature picture?

[sharki69]

That is sooooo wrong! Listing ended for whatever reason...ridiculous effort.

Did someone made a side deal ???????

[sharki69]

???

http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/222020823206

Is it just me, or did the seller change the signature picture?

I'm not sure. I don't think you can change photos after bid was placed

[AKC]

???

http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/222020823206

Is it just me, or did the seller change the signature picture?

I'm not sure. I don't think you can change photos after bid was placed

Nope, same pic since the auction started. Somebody got a pretty good deal...

[Br!an]

???

http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/222020823206

Is it just me, or did the seller change the signature picture?

There was a photo change on 2/10. No telling what it was. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemRevisionDetails&item=222020823206&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2569

[AKC]

Hmm, good catch. 1 Minute and 25 seconds AFTER the auction began, there was a photo revision (Add or Delete).

I started watching the auction like two minutes after that.....

Regardless, Buyer protected based on pic contained in listing when the auction ended.

[Randall Flagg]

Until there is a bid, sellers can make revisions (I've made a ton of mistakes-all honest, when posting Fundraiser items).
Not sure how (other than ebay, PP protection) a winner could say they saw a pic at x time and bid 3 seconds after x time, not realizing the seller made a change at x plus 2 seconds. Best thing would be a bid retraction long before the auction ended.

[divemaster]

I didn't see any part of the auction, but based on the description here I'm wondering if the seller hotlinked someone else's photo and the other person swapped it out for a blatantly horrid sig to teach a lesson. Then the seller, lessen learned, posted his own photo. Just a wild guess.

[Randall Flagg]

I didn't see any part of the auction, but based on the description here I'm wondering if the seller hotlinked someone else's photo and the other person swapped it out for a blatantly horrid sig to teach a lesson. Then the seller, lessen learned, posted his own photo. Just a wild guess.
Would ebay allow a hotlink swap after a bid?

If so, that's a flaw in the system favoring the seller.

[divemaster]

Probably not after a bid. I wasn't real clear on the timeline of events, honestly. Just brainstorming.

[Smilja0]

Guys, there's a seller on Abebooks.com and I was looking into buying the book. I'd just need your more,...''expert'' opinion on whether this signature is real or fake. Its from bag of bones Hodder & Stoughton edition
http://i.imgur.com/DAvDNOx.jpg

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Guys, there's a seller on Abebooks.com and I was looking into buying the book. I'd just need your more,...''expert'' opinion on whether this signature is real or fake. Its from bag of bones Hodder & Stoughton edition

It's a horrible "K", but I think it is genuine. He signed many thousands of these when he visited the UK in 1998. It is the cheapest UK signed book. Don't pay much for it.

[goheat]

Guys, there's a seller on Abebooks.com and I was looking into buying the book. I'd just need your more,...''expert'' opinion on whether this signature is real or fake. Its from bag of bones Hodder & Stoughton edition

It's a horrible "K", but I think it is genuine. He signed many thousands of these when he visited the UK in 1998. It is the cheapest UK signed book. Don't pay much for it.

Agreed, it matches style of his signature on my signed UK copy!

[Br!an]

I just had an eBay member buy one of my listed books.

Normally I would be happy to see something sold. In this case though I was less than thrilled.

I purchased a book from the same eBay member (http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=mott72us&ftab=AllFeedback), with a forged King signature, in December. I gave the seller negative feedback stating that the signature was a forgery and that the seller was committing fraud. I opened a case and returned the book. My refund was delayed because PayPal waited for an echeck to clear. It didn't clear. They waited a second time. It again didn't clear. I filed another complaint and eBay issued the refund.

Now today this same person purchased an old cookbook from me. It was the cheapest item I had listed. I believe that they intended to give me negative feedback. I canceled the order. I blocked the member from purchasing from me again. When I looked at his profile page I noticed that he is "following" me as a seller.

I think this person has more than one username. I'm carefully monitoring my sales.

I think perhaps I will notify eBay about this. :orely:

[T-Dogz_AK47]

I just had an eBay member buy one of my listed books.

Normally I would be happy to see something sold. In this case though I was less than thrilled.

I purchased a book from the same eBay member (http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=mott72us&ftab=AllFeedback), with a forged King signature, in December. I gave the seller negative feedback stating that the signature was a forgery and that the seller was committing fraud. I opened a case and returned the book. My refund was delayed because PayPal waited for an echeck to clear. It didn't clear. They waited a second time. It again didn't clear. I filed another complaint and eBay issued the refund.

Now today this same person purchased an old cookbook from me. It was the cheapest item I had listed. I believe that they intended to give me negative feedback. I canceled the order. I blocked the member from purchasing from me again. When I looked at his profile page I noticed that he is "following" me as a seller.

I think this person has more than one username. I'm carefully monitoring my sales.

I think perhaps I will notify eBay about this. :orely:

I'm sorry to hear about this, Brian. The buyer/seller sounds like utter scum! Notifying eBay is definitely the right thing to do.

It might be a good idea to post details of this and actually name the eBay user in question, over on the "Seller/Buyers to avoid like the plague" thread.

I would certainly like to know this person's eBay user name, so that I can block him too!

[Br!an]

Good idea. I forgot about that thread.

I did link to the seller's feedback page. (http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=mott72us&ftab=AllFeedback&rmvSB=true)

[T-Dogz_AK47]

And tonight's contestant on "Let's Play eBay BS" is.... hollywoodmintscripts :clap:

"This auction is for a very rare mint color copy of an autographed CARRIE Movie Script with the signatures of these 5 stars:"

Stephen King

Sissy Spacek

John Travolta

Amy Irving

P.J. Soles

So rare in fact, that hollywoodmintscripts only wants $14.99 as a BIN!!! Wow! This must be a real bargain, folks!! LOL! LOL! :lol:

Just in case you haven't already guessed, the signatures on this are ALL truly shit!!! LOL! :doh:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Carrie-Signed-Movie-Script-X5-Stephen-King-Sissy-Spacek-John-Travolta (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Carrie-Signed-Movie-Script-X5-Stephen-King-Sissy-Spacek-John-Travolta-reprint-/272138531944?hash=item3f5cb87468:g:9w8AAOSw~bFWKx8 o)

I love how hollywoodmintscripts states in the listing "I also have access to almost any script you might be interested in signed or otherwise. Just send me an email and I can track it down and get it listed on ebay". :rolleyes:

It's bloody obvious that he's just signing these himself!! What a complete :emot-butt:

[ELazansky]

He doesn't claim the signatures are real. He states it is a color copy of a script. It is even listed in the reprint category.

[firemonkey66]

Another copy of It ruined by a crappy forgery. Friggen shame.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/IT-SIGNED-BY-STEPHEN-KING-HC-DJ-1ST-1ST-/231852078006?hash=item35fb75f3b6:g:3qkAAOSw5dNWoKL l

[T-Dogz_AK47]

He doesn't claim the signatures are real. He states it is a color copy of a script. It is even listed in the reprint category.

He doesn't state that the signatures are fake either. The fact that it's a color copy of a script and listed as a reprint, is irrelevant. The signatures are not facsimile, they are pure forgeries. THAT is what makes his listing bullshit!!! :wtf:

[T-Dogz_AK47]

Another copy of It ruined by a crappy forgery. Friggen shame.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/IT-SIGNED-BY-STEPHEN-KING-HC-DJ-1ST-1ST-/231852078006?hash=item35fb75f3b6:g:3qkAAOSw5dNWoKL l

georgiaantiques is a notorious peddler of shit on eBay! AVOID!!! thumbsdownsmall

[ELazansky]

He doesn't claim the signatures are real. He states it is a color copy of a script. It is even listed in the reprint category.

He doesn't state that the signatures are fake either. The fact that it's a color copy of a script and listed as a reprint, is irrelevant. The signatures are not facsimile, they are pure forgeries. THAT is what makes his listing bullshit!!! :wtf:

It looks like the folks buying his scripts don't seem to care, as he has sold a lot of reprint scripts. I think most know the sigs are not real. Most people are probably buying it for the script itself.

[cit74]

He doesn't claim the signatures are real. He states it is a color copy of a script. It is even listed in the reprint category.

He doesn't state that the signatures are fake either. The fact that it's a color copy of a script and listed as a reprint, is irrelevant. The signatures are not facsimile, they are pure forgeries. THAT is what makes his listing bullshit!!! :wtf:

It looks like the folks buying his scripts don't seem to care, as he has sold a lot of reprint scripts. I think most know the sigs are not real. Most people are probably buying it for the script itself.

I certainly hope they are - over 300 sold in the past year. If i spent that amount of time printing the scripts, and a color picture on the front sheet, and the color markers, and the time to learn how to poorly scribble hundred of actors names - I think I would charge at least $25 - thats a lot of effort, paper and printer costs...plus their hands surely are cramping

[firemonkey66]

Looks like a new user ID for someone to peddle forgeries.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cell-Stephen-King-Signed-2006-1st-Edition-/191811185579?hash=item2ca8d66bab:g:SR4AAOSwe7BWyjh 0

[jsmcmullen92]

I hate this seller: vinylrecordsus (http://www.ebay.com/usr/vinylrecordsus). His King Posts. (http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=&_ssn=vinylrecordsus&_armrs=1&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313.TR10.TRC2.A0.H0.Xking. TRS2&_nkw=king&_sacat=0) He always sells trash books and infringed copyrighted items. I have reported him over and over and eBay does nothing. I just emailed Robert Wiener so lets see what Grant Books has to say.

[carlosdetweiller]

I hate this seller: vinylrecordsus (http://www.ebay.com/usr/vinylrecordsus). His King Posts. (http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=&_ssn=vinylrecordsus&_armrs=1&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313.TR10.TRC2.A0.H0.Xking. TRS2&_nkw=king&_sacat=0) He always sells trash books and infringed copyrighted items. I have reported him over and over and eBay does nothing. I just emailed Robert Wiener so lets see what Grant Books has to say.

I am not remotely interested in any of the listings that he currently has but I don't see why the hatred. I think his rebound Dark Tower books use text blocks from Plume and Signet editions; not Donald Grant first editions. Is it the facsimile dust jackets that you find objectionable? I'm not trying to be critical; just asking what is upsetting to you. To me it just looks like a bunch of junk and whoever buys it is not very smart.

[jsmcmullen92]

I hate this seller: vinylrecordsus (http://www.ebay.com/usr/vinylrecordsus). His King Posts. (http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=&_ssn=vinylrecordsus&_armrs=1&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313.TR10.TRC2.A0.H0.Xking. TRS2&_nkw=king&_sacat=0) He always sells trash books and infringed copyrighted items. I have reported him over and over and eBay does nothing. I just emailed Robert Wiener so lets see what Grant Books has to say.

I am not remotely interested in any of the listings that he currently has but I don't see why the hatred. I think his rebound Dark Tower books use text blocks from Plume and Signet editions; not Donald Grant first editions. Is it the facsimile dust jackets that you find objectionable? I'm not trying to be critical; just asking what is upsetting to you. To me it just looks like a bunch of junk and whoever buys it is not very smart.

Yes the DJs mostly are what bother me. I could care less about most the junk he sells. I don't like that he is blatantly taking copyrighted images to a Xerox machine and printing them to put on even bigger shit and sells them. Then the fact that eBay doesn't even care, yes i know they will never and sometimes I even understand why they don't step in about the sigs because they probably do not have the expertise to tell whether it is real or not but when the buy even says they are "facsimile" then there is no wondering if they are fake or not.

[zelig]

The crap he sells irritates me too. And yes, it's primarily the ripped off jackets and shoddy cases that press my buttons.

[Patrick]

The facsimile dustjackets bother me, unless they are marked, "facsimile" somewhere on them.

[Br!an]

I notified Pete at PS that his dustjackets were for sale on the internet. I can't recall if it was this seller or another with "facsimile" dustjackets. Pete filled out the forms for eBay to complain about it. They replied that only the rights-holder can have it taken down and that they had notified King's office.

Even the publisher can't make eBay act right. I don't see how King has the rights to the artwork. :orely: Perhaps if the artist themselves protested.

[jsmcmullen92]

I notified Pete at PS that his dustjackets were for sale on the internet. I can't recall if it was this seller or another with "facsimile" dustjackets. Pete filled out the forms for eBay to complain about it. They replied that only the rights-holder can have it taken down and that they had notified King's office.

Even the publisher can't make eBay act right. I don't see how King has the rights to the artwork. :orely: Perhaps if the artist themselves protested.

I talked to Robert at Grant and he wasn't too worried about it. He said if they were trying to sell just the DJ he would care but since it's an unknown book with a fake DJ he isn't going to bother.

[Br!an]

The facsimile dustjackets bother me, unless they are marked, "facsimile" somewhere on them.

The seller states that the rear flaps aren't present. It can't be confused with a real dustjacket.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

The facsimile dustjackets bother me, unless they are marked, "facsimile" somewhere on them.

The seller states that the rear flaps aren't present. It can't be confused with a real dustjacket.

In talking with Cemetery Dance about this (the seller created a dust jacket from the limited edition IT) CD said it's the artwork in violation. He doesn't have permission to use it or copy it.

Mulleins

[mcdonaldj]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Regulators-SIGNED-2X-by-Stephen-King-Richard-Bachman-1ST-1996-Hardcover-/191812945731?hash=item2ca8f14743:g:lq0AAOSwWTRWzZR O

[bdwyer19]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Regulators-SIGNED-2X-by-Stephen-King-Richard-Bachman-1ST-1996-Hardcover-/191812945731?hash=item2ca8f14743:g:lq0AAOSwWTRWzZR O

I was going to post that too. Really bad!!

[goheat]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Regulators-SIGNED-2X-by-Stephen-King-Richard-Bachman-1ST-1996-Hardcover-/191812945731?hash=item2ca8f14743:g:lq0AAOSwWTRWzZR O

I was going to post that too. Really bad!!

Wow, this dung apparently sold for best offer. Hope offer was $0.27!

[Br!an]

The facsimile dustjackets bother me, unless they are marked, "facsimile" somewhere on them.

The seller states that the rear flaps aren't present. It can't be confused with a real dustjacket.

In talking with Cemetery Dance about this (the seller created a dust jacket from the limited edition IT) CD said it's the artwork in violation. He doesn't have permission to use it or copy it.

Mulleins

It's definitely a copyright violation.

[mcdonaldj]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Regulators-SIGNED-2X-by-Stephen-King-Richard-Bachman-1ST-1996-Hardcover-/191812945731?hash=item2ca8f14743:g:lq0AAOSwWTRWzZR O

I was going to post that too. Really bad!!

Wow, this dung apparently sold for best offer. Hope offer was $0.27!

I thought maybe they didn't know, guess not:

"Be my guest, it will save me the time in embarrassing you. Not forged but thanks for wasting your time, you must have alot of it."

[Tommy]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Regulators-SIGNED-2X-by-Stephen-King-Richard-Bachman-1ST-1996-Hardcover-/191812945731?hash=item2ca8f14743:g:lq0AAOSwWTRWzZR O

I was going to post that too. Really bad!!

Wow, this dung apparently sold for best offer. Hope offer was $0.27!

I thought maybe they didn't know, guess not:

"Be my guest, it will save me the time in embarrassing you. Not forged but thanks for wasting your time, you must have alot of it."

Well for one, he does not realize "alot" is not a word.

Someone did buy the Forged Regulators but then gave him a negative review and said all his King sigs are fake so he cancelled the order and supposedly reported that person to ebay. it says all that in the re-listed text.

The Regulators SIGNED 2X by Stephen King & Richard Bachman 1ST (1996, Hardcover) (http://www.ebay.com/itm/191813381502)

Does reporting these people as frauds do any good? I mean has ebay ever actually banned someone for selling forgeries?

I'm going to report him but I'm not sure it will do any good.

[Tommy]

Not sure if this one has been posted or not but...

Just after Sunset Signed by Stephen King (2008, Hardcover) (http://www.ebay.com/itm/191813353173)

[frik]

Not sure if this one has been posted or not but...

Just after Sunset Signed by Stephen King (2008, Hardcover) (http://www.ebay.com/itm/191813353173)

Don't trust it.

sk

[goheat]

Not sure if this one has been posted or not but...

Just after Sunset Signed by Stephen King (2008, Hardcover) (http://www.ebay.com/itm/191813353173)

Don't trust it.

sk

Crap, and this seller's other 'signed' King books (active and previously listed) are crap.

[frik]

Not sure if this one has been posted or not but...

Just after Sunset Signed by Stephen King (2008, Hardcover) (http://www.ebay.com/itm/191813353173)

Don't trust it.

sk

Crap, and this seller's other 'signed' King books (active and previously listed) are crap.

Definitely!

sk

[Room 217 Caretaker]

This seller (all the signatures are forged) is terrible:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Signed-Stephen-King-Mr-Mercedes-HC-DJ-1ST-Edition-/231858199838?

Mulleins

[webstar1000]

He is a piece of shit. Sorry but he has been doing this for awhile.... I really wish these guys would get busted. Kills me....

[Room 217 Caretaker]

When you ask the seller how the signatures came about, he cuts and paste the same response.

He knows he is selling forged copies. No one in the industry cares and that includes Kings office.....why? Because the book itself is legit. If we started seeing pirated King books, they would be all over it.

I'm sure King gets a laugh out of seeing his signature butchered.

We all feel sorry for the people who purchase a forged book. I purchased a forged copy before learning, and now I'm a better stronger collector because of it. I believe the King forged business has brought many new members here making our DT family grow. So, when you get a chance, thank the forgers...haha.

Time to fill up my coffee again and stop typing.

Mulleins

[carlosdetweiller]

This is very worrisome to me. Not unexpected but very worrisome. James Spence is one of the more respected autograph authenticating services. To see him/them certify this as authentic is just terrible. I think they made their reputation in sports collectibles but, after seeing this, I wouldn't trust their judgement there either. I am really sorry to see this. We are much better judges of real vs. fake King signatures than they are.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-Signed-Autographed-Eyes-Of-The-Dragon-1st-1st-Jsa-Loa-Rare-/111927597467?hash=item1a0f67999b:g:cwMAAOSwe7BW0IL p

[surly]

I had a similar one a few years ago that I bought sight unseen from a collector I knew. When it arrived, it just didn't feel right so I solicited a few opinions and they came back mixed. I continued to have my doubts so I just returned it.
I fear this particular style of forgery has become so prevalent, that it is starting to be accepted as legitimate even by respected authenticators.

[at_one]

This is very worrisome to me. Not unexpected but very worrisome. James Spence is one of the more respected autograph authenticating services. To see him/them certify this as authentic is just terrible. I think they made their reputation in sports collectibles but, after seeing this, I wouldn't trust their judgement there either. I am really sorry to see this. We are much better judges of real vs. fake King signatures than they are.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-Signed-Autographed-Eyes-Of-The-Dragon-1st-1st-Jsa-Loa-Rare-/111927597467?hash=item1a0f67999b:g:cwMAAOSwe7BW0IL p

What's on that book....mold?

[peripheral]

When you ask the seller how the signatures came about, he cuts and paste the same response.

He knows he is selling forged copies. No one in the industry cares and that includes Kings office.....why? Because the book itself is legit. If we started seeing pirated King books, they would be all over it.

I'm sure King gets a laugh out of seeing his signature butchered.

We all feel sorry for the people who purchase a forged book. I purchased a forged copy before learning, and now I'm a better stronger collector because of it. I believe the King forged business has brought many new members here making our DT family grow. So, when you get a chance, thank the forgers...haha.

Time to fill up my coffee again and stop typing.

Mulleins

First flat-signed I bought was a fake which I only discovered after immersing myself here, on this website. I even believe that the seller thought it was a genuine signature. I kept the book as a reminder of never to be an impatient douche when buying a flat-signed again.

[Br!an]

When you ask the seller how the signatures came about, he cuts and paste the same response.

He knows he is selling forged copies. No one in the industry cares and that includes Kings office.....why? Because the book itself is legit. If we started seeing pirated King books, they would be all over it.

I'm sure King gets a laugh out of seeing his signature butchered.

We all feel sorry for the people who purchase a forged book. I purchased a forged copy before learning, and now I'm a better stronger collector because of it. I believe the King forged business has brought many new members here making our DT family grow. So, when you get a chance, thank the forgers...haha.

Time to fill up my coffee again and stop typing.

Mulleins

First flat-signed I bought was a fake which I only discovered after immersing myself here, on this website. I even believe that the seller thought it was a genuine signature. I kept the book as a reminder of never to be an impatient douche when buying a flat-signed again.

The first flatsigned I bought was a forgery too. The members here set me straight and I was able to return it. The seller was actually banned from eBay a while later. (Imagine that!)

[Rahfa]

I bought two fakes earlyish in my collecting - they were a trace job so looked good in the image, and the price was just too good to be true.

In my "inventory," I've since rolled the price of the books into other books...so the dollar-cost-average reflects the wasted money that way, but I don't have to look at an item in red...haha

[firemonkey66]

The first signed King book I ever bid on on ebay I won for like 60 dollars. At first I was thrilled, but then the low price started to kind of gnaw at me and make me nervous. I started doing some research, which led me to this site, educated me a bit, and led me cancel the purchase before it was shipped. Thanks TDT.org!

[jsweet]

And here's a seller attempting to sell the Dolores Claiborne Gift Edition with facsimile auto as a real autograph

www.ebay.com/itm/231873250800

But hey, it comes with a COA!!!!

[zelig]

And here's a seller attempting to sell the Dolores Claiborne Gift Edition with facsimile auto as a real autograph

www.ebay.com/itm/231873250800

But hey, it comes with a COA!!!!

What Bob might call a Jackwagon.

[jsweet]

And here's a seller attempting to sell the Dolores Claiborne Gift Edition with facsimile auto as a real autograph

www.ebay.com/itm/231873250800

But hey, it comes with a COA!!!!

What Bob might call a Jackwagon.

Listing ended

[darkseer]

And here's a seller attempting to sell the Dolores Claiborne Gift Edition with facsimile auto as a real autograph

www.ebay.com/itm/231873250800

But hey, it comes with a COA!!!!

What Bob might call a Jackwagon.

Listing ended

I sent the seller an email to point that out. I never got a reply back :orely:

[frik]

Did work though, as the book is no longer available!
Good job, darkseer !

sk

[jhanic]

And here's a seller attempting to sell the Dolores Claiborne Gift Edition with facsimile auto as a real autograph

www.ebay.com/itm/231873250800

But hey, it comes with a COA!!!!

What Bob might call a Jackwagon.

Listing ended

I messaged the seller yesterday and informed him that it was just a facsimile signature and not a genuine one. He/she questioned me about it and I told them to just read the cover. I think they honestly thought it was genuine. I also told them to try to get their money back from the COA service and not to trust them.

John

[zelig]

I take back the Jackwagon thing then.

[Lovejoygirl14]

Your emojis are awesome fore this,

[Lovejoygirl14]

Wow!!! For*

[Br!an]

Wow!!! For*

You can edit your posts.

There is an Edit Post button at the bottom right of your post.

To delete click Edit Post, click Delete, select Delete Message, click Delete Post.

[Brian861]

Are these sigs legit or no? :orely:

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/TDT_ORG_Postcard_Signed.JPG

[carlosdetweiller]

Very questionable, IMO, and done by a person of even more questionable reputation and morals.

[Brian861]

Very questionable, IMO, and done by a person of even more questionable reputation and morals.

Well, I paid $500 plus shipping and was assured it was a one off; never to be reproduced. I felt like the guy was really doing me solid at that price. :excited:

[jsmcmullen92]

That is absolute trash. Looks like someone once again was trying to sign with a pen tied to their dick.

[bdwyer19]

Did you at least get a COA??

[Brian861]

Did you at least get a COA??

No. I really should have, uh?

[webstar1000]

Maybe RF could chime in on this one?

[Merlin1958]

Are these sigs legit or no? :orely:

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/TDT_ORG_Postcard_Signed.JPG

Depends. Do you know if that is an "AM" or a "PM" signature? LOL J/K LOL

[jsteltor]

I don't know if this has been posted yet, but any comments on the signature?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-FROM-A-BUICK-8-FIRST-EDITION-FIRST-PRINT-SIGNED-AUTOGRAPHED-/171965873154?hash=item2809f6fc02:g:sKAAAOSwA4dWGsf x

Thanks

[frik]

I don't know if this has been posted yet, but any comments on the signature?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-FROM-A-BUICK-8-FIRST-EDITION-FIRST-PRINT-SIGNED-AUTOGRAPHED-/171965873154?hash=item2809f6fc02:g:sKAAAOSwA4dWGsf x

Thanks


Fake!! No doubt about it: stay away!!

sk

[jsteltor]

Thank you, that's what I was thinking. Appreciate the feedback.



I don't know if this has been posted yet, but any comments on the signature?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-FROM-A-BUICK-8-FIRST-EDITION-FIRST-PRINT-SIGNED-AUTOGRAPHED-/171965873154?hash=item2809f6fc02:g:sKAAAOSwA4dWGsf x

Thanks


Fake!! No doubt about it: stay away!!

sk

[Br!an]

I don't know if this has been posted yet, but any comments on the signature?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-FROM-A-BUICK-8-FIRST-EDITION-FIRST-PRINT-SIGNED-AUTOGRAPHED-/171965873154?hash=item2809f6fc02:g:sKAAAOSwA4dWGsf x

Thanks


Fake!! No doubt about it: stay away!!

sk


I don't like any of the seller's signed books. Most of his legitimate books are in bad shape too.

[goheat]

I don't know if this has been posted yet, but any comments on the signature?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-FROM-A-BUICK-8-FIRST-EDITION-FIRST-PRINT-SIGNED-AUTOGRAPHED-/171965873154?hash=item2809f6fc02:g:sKAAAOSwA4dWGsf x

Thanks


Fake!! No doubt about it: stay away!!

sk


I don't like any of the seller's signed books. Most of his legitimate books are in bad shape too.

Yep, crap-a-loni!

[darkseer]

I don't know if this has been posted yet, but any comments on the signature?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-FROM-A-BUICK-8-FIRST-EDITION-FIRST-PRINT-SIGNED-AUTOGRAPHED-/171965873154?hash=item2809f6fc02:g:sKAAAOSwA4dWGsf x

Thanks


Fake!! No doubt about it: stay away!!

sk


I don't like any of the seller's signed books. Most of his legitimate books are in bad shape too.

I haven't really thought much of what he has to sell either, over priced poor condition.

[becca69]

That is absolute trash. Looks like someone once again was trying to sign with a pen tied to their dick.

:rofl:

[Randall Flagg]

No bueno:

STEPHEN KING CYCLE OF WEREWOLF 1st edtion (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-CYCLE-OF-WEREWOLF-1st-edtion-/322045506362?hash=item4afb68733a:g:g1YAAOSwxvxW7dF N)

[Randall Flagg]

Pretty ugly:
DARK TOWER III by STEPHEN KING 1st/1st signed fine copy (http://www.ebay.com/itm/DARK-TOWER-III-by-STEPHEN-KING-1st-1st-signed-fine-copy-/252331751303?hash=item3ac024f787:g:OIEAAOSwAvJW9Ff 0)

[Br!an]

Pretty ugly:
DARK TOWER III by STEPHEN KING 1st/1st signed fine copy (http://www.ebay.com/itm/DARK-TOWER-III-by-STEPHEN-KING-1st-1st-signed-fine-copy-/252331751303?hash=item3ac024f787:g:OIEAAOSwAvJW9Ff 0)

Very ugly! :nope:

[T-Dogz_AK47]

Pretty ugly:
DARK TOWER III by STEPHEN KING 1st/1st signed fine copy (http://www.ebay.com/itm/DARK-TOWER-III-by-STEPHEN-KING-1st-1st-signed-fine-copy-/252331751303?hash=item3ac024f787:g:OIEAAOSwAvJW9Ff 0)

Very ugly! :nope:


The photo is deliberately out of focus, but you can still see the "criminal tremor" in the signature. It's a truly shit forgery! thumbsdownsmall

[Randall Flagg]

10 available?
It by Stephen King (1986, Hardcover) (http://www.ebay.com/itm/It-by-Stephen-King-1986-Hardcover-/331812593860?hash=item4d419260c4:g:AoUAAOSwxp9W9Lq 0)

http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/images/g/AoUAAOSwxp9W9Lq0/s-l225.jpg

[jhanic]

10 available?
It by Stephen King (1986, Hardcover) (http://www.ebay.com/itm/It-by-Stephen-King-1986-Hardcover-/331812593860?hash=item4d419260c4:g:AoUAAOSwxp9W9Lq 0)

http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/images/g/AoUAAOSwxp9W9Lq0/s-l225.jpg

Although the pic shows a signature, no where does the listing say it's signed, nor whether it's a first printing. AVOID!!

John

[frik]

10 available?
It by Stephen King (1986, Hardcover) (http://www.ebay.com/itm/It-by-Stephen-King-1986-Hardcover-/331812593860?hash=item4d419260c4:g:AoUAAOSwxp9W9Lq 0)

http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/images/g/AoUAAOSwxp9W9Lq0/s-l225.jpg

A limited first edition of this book has been published by Phantasia Press ???

sk

[Pasiuk57]

Yes
it is called ES
in German
very rare...

[T-Dogz_AK47]

10 available?
It by Stephen King (1986, Hardcover) (http://www.ebay.com/itm/It-by-Stephen-King-1986-Hardcover-/331812593860?hash=item4d419260c4:g:AoUAAOSwxp9W9Lq 0)

http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/images/g/AoUAAOSwxp9W9Lq0/s-l225.jpg

Although the pic shows a signature, no where does the listing say it's signed, nor whether it's a first printing. AVOID!!

John

It doesn't, but it does say "For use in schools and libraries only."

The listing is just for a cheap ex library book. Certainly not first edition and certainly not signed. That's why there are more than 10 copies available to buy for only $15 each.

The photo of Stephen King's signature and inscription is just deliberately misleading.

[frik]

Yes
it is called ES
in German
very rare...

Ahhh..forgot about that one!

sk

[Brian861]

By far my worst eBay buying experience to date. Avoid eBay seller gohastings like the plague. Book was advertised as "Brand New" with one stock photo. That should have been my 1st clue. The 2nd should have been all the negative feedback. But, I've taken a chance with other sellers with questionable feedback with good results. This guy/gal/person just straight out sells trash. Shipped in a flimsy envelope with not padding whatsoever. Based on the condition of the book, the envelope was probably damaged before it was even mailed! PM your email if you want to see additional pics. Don't want to fill up a whole page here.

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/JAS_Damaged_Soiled_Dirty_1.JPGhttp://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/JAS_Damaged_Soiled_Dirty_6.JPG
http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/JAS_Cheap_Envelope_1.JPGhttp://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/JAS_Cheap_Envelope_2.JPG

[jonp]

Ouch! You're not having much luck recently, Brian. I recieved a couple recently wrapped in a single wrap of bubblewrap and then wrapped in brown paper. They did not arrive in as new condition either.

[peripheral]

Ouch! Been there - never nice. :angry:

[carlosdetweiller]

By far my worst eBay buying experience to date. Avoid eBay seller gohastings like the plague. Book was advertised as "Brand New" with one stock photo. That should have been my 1st clue. The 2nd should have been all the negative feedback. But, I've taken a chance with other sellers with questionable feedback with good results. This guy/gal/person just straight out sells trash. Shipped in a flimsy envelope with not padding whatsoever. Based on the condition of the book, the envelope was probably damaged before it was even mailed! PM your email if you want to see additional pics. Don't want to fill up a whole page here.


That isn't a person you are dealing with but a retail chain that sells books, music, movies and video games. They are headquartered here in Amarillo, TX but operate over a hundred stores in the southwest, midwest and Rocky Mountain area. I'm not making excuses for them in any way but I suspect that they have a return policy and buyer protection with eBay. Their feedback is over 99% positive.

[Brian861]

Thanks, Bob. I'm sure they'll refund. They have a ton of negative feedback but it doesn't affect their overall that much since their feedback is over a million with over 1400 negative feedbacks left in the past 12 months. Still no excuse to mail out trash like they did. Someone had to physically place this dirty, filthy book inside an envelope and mail it. Serious lack of QC. Maybe they should stay out of the collectable book business and focus on other media.

BTW, do we have a thread for positive experiences and recommended eBay sellers/dealers? Thanks!

[Randall Flagg]

Thanks, Bob. I'm sure they'll refund. They have a ton of negative feedback but it doesn't affect their overall that much since their feedback is over a million with over 1400 negative feedbacks left in the past 12 months. Still no excuse to mail out trash like they did. Someone had to physically place this dirty, filthy book inside an envelope and mail it. Serious lack of QC. Maybe they should stay out of the collectable book business and focus on other media.

BTW, do we have a thread for positive experiences and recommended eBay sellers/dealers? Thanks!

Recommended bookdealers (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?2342-Recommended-bookdealers&highlight=recommended)

[Brian861]

Thanks, Jerome. Have had some good experiences of late as well and want to share those as well.

[HONKYTONKSMASH]

Ouch man. That book is thrashed

[Brian861]

Ouch man. That book is thrashed

Oh you should see the other photos I took, Chad for the return. The DJ is dirty and sticky to the touch like some two year old was playing with it at lunch.

[carlosdetweiller]

Ouch man. That book is thrashed

Oh you should see the other photos I took, Chad for the return. The DJ is dirty and sticky to the touch like some two year was playing with it at lunch.

There is no excuse for that book to have been sent out. The big chains (Amazon, B&N and, in this case, Hastings) don't usually cater to finicky collectors like us and don't pack books for shipping like we are used to. But I continue to order new books from Amazon because of the lower prices. Sometimes I get a great copy, sometimes not. But I have never had an experience like yours, Brian, and I hope you get it resolved quickly.

[RC65]

Item 141940934779 : I don't even know where to begin with this one…from the bad sig, to the signed and numbered of 200 limitation run when there is no numbering in the book ( and no such limitation done, especially with bookclub editions), to King's name misspelled on the COA, to the 0 feedback, to the...well, it's just a wealth of shenanigans.

[Brian861]

There is no excuse for that book to have been sent out. The big chains (Amazon, B&N and, in this case, Hastings) don't usually cater to finicky collectors like us and don't pack books for shipping like we are used to. But I continue to order new books from Amazon because of the lower prices. Sometimes I get a great copy, sometimes not. But I have never had an experience like yours, Brian, and I hope you get it resolved quickly.

Thanks, Bob. Appreciate that. I too have ordered from Amazon with mostly success. Since it's extremely rare to get a photo of the actual book to be purchased; I still at times get the blank stare email reply when I ask if a book is a 1st/1st. The differences are notably clear between "a retailer" vs. "a book dealer" or purchasing from a private collector. I've had that most success with the latter regarding older copies especially.

[peripheral]

Item 141940934779 : I don't even know where to begin with this one…from the bad sig, to the signed and numbered of 200 limitation run when there is no numbering in the book ( and no such limitation done, especially with bookclub editions), to King's name misspelled on the COA, to the 0 feedback, to the...well, it's just a wealth of shenanigans.

Sweet baby Jesus... :wtf:

"Wealth of shenanigans"...:emot-roflolmao:

[firemonkey66]

Item 141940934779 : I don't even know where to begin with this one…from the bad sig, to the signed and numbered of 200 limitation run when there is no numbering in the book ( and no such limitation done, especially with bookclub editions), to King's name misspelled on the COA, to the 0 feedback, to the...well, it's just a wealth of shenanigans.

I don't know, it seems fishy, but the COA says it's real! Hahaha, good god. The person who buys it should have that COA professionally framed. They wouldn't want it to get smudged or creased after flushing a thousand dollars down the ol' eBay forgery toilet.

[T-Dogz_AK47]

Item 141940934779 : I don't even know where to begin with this one…from the bad sig, to the signed and numbered of 200 limitation run when there is no numbering in the book ( and no such limitation done, especially with bookclub editions), to King's name misspelled on the COA, to the 0 feedback, to the...well, it's just a wealth of shenanigans.

Can you provide a link to this item?

[Br!an]

limited edition with cert authenticity night shift book stephen king signed (http://www.ebay.com/itm/141940934779?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2F i.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_udlo%3D%26_udhi%3D%26_ftrt% 3D901%26_ftrv%3D1%26_sabdlo%3D%26_sabdhi%3D%26_sam ilow%3D%26_samihi%3D%26_sadis%3D15%26_stpos%3D3293 7-3348%26_sop%3D12%26_dmd%3D1%26_ipg%3D200%26_nkw%3D 141940934779%26_rdc%3D1)

[Dan]

Lol. It's pretty bad. Perhaps Stevan King did sign it.

[T-Dogz_AK47]

limited edition with cert authenticity night shift book stephen king signed (http://www.ebay.com/itm/141940934779?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2F i.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_udlo%3D%26_udhi%3D%26_ftrt% 3D901%26_ftrv%3D1%26_sabdlo%3D%26_sabdhi%3D%26_sam ilow%3D%26_samihi%3D%26_sadis%3D15%26_stpos%3D3293 7-3348%26_sop%3D12%26_dmd%3D1%26_ipg%3D200%26_nkw%3D 141940934779%26_rdc%3D1)

Thanks for providing the link to this, Brian!

That has to be one of the worst attempts at a forgery I have ever seen on eBay!!!! Fake signature, Fake home made "Stephan King" COA and then trying to claim that a BCE is limited to 200 copies! Utter shit!!! :doh: