The eBay BS Game: Questionable items, Stephen King signatures, sellers

[jonp]

Hi all, any thoughts on this one? On an official bookplate in a 1st of UK Lisey's story. I would have said it's good but now I have it in hand, the loop seems quite high and the K is too perfect. Also, it's signed in biro rather than pen. I'm just checking!

http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y496/fenpad/IMG_5058_zpsau8xsxrw.jpg (http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/fenpad/media/IMG_5058_zpsau8xsxrw.jpg.html)

[frik]

Don't think I like it too much.....But then again, if you say it's an official bookplate..

sk

[divemaster]

I've seen some scribbly-looking "King" or "Knig" sigs, but never one with no "n" whatsoever. And there's no loop at all on the "g" which is gives me concern.

[burial]

Hi all, any thoughts on this one? On an official bookplate in a 1st of UK Lisey's story. I would have said it's good but now I have it in hand, the loop seems quite high and the K is too perfect. Also, it's signed in biro rather than pen. I'm just checking!

http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y496/fenpad/IMG_5058_zpsau8xsxrw.jpg (http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/fenpad/media/IMG_5058_zpsau8xsxrw.jpg.html)




mine looks like this:

http://kingowiec.pl/image/pgcqkkkpabkx/940/626/original/#.jpeg

[jhanic]

Mine is very similar.

John

[jonp]

Thanks Guys. I looks like he signed these in a hurry and they are all fairly similar.

[Randall Flagg]

This seller has several "signed" books. All crap:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/pearwate/m.html?item=151883369700&hash=item235cf44ce4%3Ag%3AUQMAAOSwcdBWRQk0&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Thanks Guys. I looks like he signed these in a hurry and they are all fairly similar.

I was there when he signed some bookplates. The signature is horrible, but genuine.

[jonp]

Thanks Guys. I looks like he signed these in a hurry and they are all fairly similar.

I was there when he signed some bookplates. The signature is horrible, but genuine.

Thanks Alan, good to know. It looked good on eBay, had no worries. It wasn't until I received it that I started to have a little concern over it.

[Stockerlone]

Signed Under the Dome
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Stephen-King-Under-the-Dome-signiert-/181931306165?hash=item2a5bf36cb5:g:KdYAAOSwFGNWRc1 v

[webstar1000]

Signed Under the Dome
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Stephen-King-Under-the-Dome-signiert-/181931306165?hash=item2a5bf36cb5:g:KdYAAOSwFGNWRc1 v

I think thats good...

[jonp]

Looks good. A typical modern day King signature.

[TrueNorth]

Two thumbs up.

[ke7285]

This seller has several "signed" books. All crap:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/pearwate/m.html?item=151883369700&hash=item235cf44ce4%3Ag%3AUQMAAOSwcdBWRQk0&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562
I have seen this seller's good's before. I believe he has another ebay account "The Amazing Book-Store" which is also the same name of his comic book store in Flint, MI. I might just take a ride over there tomorrow to see in person what he has.

[sgc1999]

looks good to me! The sig does, not sure about the value of the book.

[Bunyip]

Hi guys, any thoughts on these? Different seller,both Cujo

http://imgur.com/cNlxEet

http://imgur.com/cNlxEet

[Bunyip]

http://imgur.com/cNlxEet

[jonp]

Sorry Bunyip I can't see the photos.

[Bunyip]

Sorry! Can't seem to upload pics, driving me nuts.

[jonp]

LOL! It's not just me then!

[Br!an]

Hi guys, any thoughts on these? Different seller,both Cujo
http://imgur.com/cNlxEet

Perhaps I can help.

http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/[IMG]http://imgur.com/cNlxEethttp://i.imgur.com/cNlxEet.jpg

[jonp]

That's good! Thumbs up!

[Br!an]

I forgot to comment on it.

I think it's good too.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Yep, they are good. That looks like the books RW is selling.

Mulleins

[Bunyip]

Wow, that's some Deadzone mind reading going on there! Thanks guys.

[Bunyip]

This is the other one. Also curious if you guys have any thoughts on the value of both these books? Thanks,Ben
http://i.imgur.com/yesIyHX.jpg

[Merlin1958]

I don't think so, but get the experts opinions.

[The Library Policeman]

This is the other one. Also curious if you guys have any thoughts on the value of both these books? Thanks,Ben
http://i.imgur.com/yesIyHX.jpg



That also looks legit to me.

[killjoy72]

Both Cujo's are good.
As for value.... the closer the inscription date to the book's publication date, the higher the value (or so it would seem). I would say (guess) somewhere around $150 - $250?

[Bunyip]

Thanks guys. The second sig looked a bit different, but the fact that there is a decent inscription made me think it was possibly good. Both books are priced at nearly double the quoted estimation!

[Br!an]

I think they are both good. I don't think I'd buy the second one though.


Thanks guys. The second sig looked a bit different, but the fact that there is a decent inscription made me think it was possibly good. Both books are priced at nearly double the quoted estimation!

Which is probably why they are still for sale.

*

There is a "Wanted" thread you could post yours wants in. You can also add the books you want to your signature.

[frik]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/633/i6bwO3.jpg

From a Dutch auction site.
Don't like it.

sk

[jonp]

I agree, it's bad.

[jhanic]

thumbsdownsmall

John

[Randall Flagg]

The signature looks terrible and the place setting even worse.

[Br!an]

thumbsdownsmall

[neo_trinity]

Apparently Stephen King did a signing tour of the UK to promote "Finders Keepers". I must have missed that announcement. My loss. Not to worry, this seller managed to get his hardback signed and even went to the trouble of peeling an "Autographed Copy" sticker (circa 2000) from another book, in case you weren't sure this was genuine. Even though the signature is as large as the Title Page name, it still is able to get at least 1 bidder hoping to score a good deal.

Gerald

SIGNED STEPHEN KING HARDBACK 1ST EDITION BOOK FINDERS KEEPERS (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SIGNED-STEPHEN-KING-HARDBACK-1ST-EDITION-BOOK-FINDERS-KEEPERS-/231761689049?hash=item35f612b9d9:g:Pm8AAOSwgyxWUgZ g)

[Merlin1958]

:wtf:

[TCCBodhi]

Have they no pride in their craft of fakery?

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Apparently Stephen King did a signing tour of the UK to promote "Finders Keepers".

I was in my garage.

[goheat]

I think the clearly-old Barnes and Noble 'Autographed Copy' sticker on a new UK copy of the book is really brilliant.

[Brian James Freeman]

I think the clearly-old Barnes and Noble 'Autographed Copy' sticker on a new UK copy of the book is really brilliant.

Are we giving out awards in the fraud category this year? If so, I think we've found our front runner for sure...

Brian

[zelig]

I tell you, that old sticker is the cherry on the top. What a monstrosity.

[Merlin1958]

I think the clearly-old Barnes and Noble 'Autographed Copy' sticker on a new UK copy of the book is really brilliant.

Are we giving out awards in the fraud category this year? If so, I think we've found our front runner for sure...

Brian


LOL You know, with "352" pages of these charlatan's listings, we really should, hadn't we? Name a committee and so forth. I nominate Ralph, Jerome, and Bob for starters. Decide a winner and bombard that fuck with negative feedback/comments/questions as a united whole!!! LOL LOL LOL "You're the best fraudulent cocksucker of XXXX" determined by the "TDT.Org"!!! LOL LOL LOL

[RC65]

Good god. How does someone like that manage to get a 1460 100% feedback rating? Is this his first King attempt, or was Barnum right?

[Roseannebarr]

Apparently Stephen King did a signing tour of the UK to promote "Finders Keepers". I must have missed that announcement. My loss. Not to worry, this seller managed to get his hardback signed and even went to the trouble of peeling an "Autographed Copy" sticker (circa 2000) from another book, in case you weren't sure this was genuine. Even though the signature is as large as the Title Page name, it still is able to get at least 1 bidder hoping to score a good deal.

Gerald

SIGNED STEPHEN KING HARDBACK 1ST EDITION BOOK FINDERS KEEPERS (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SIGNED-STEPHEN-KING-HARDBACK-1ST-EDITION-BOOK-FINDERS-KEEPERS-/231761689049?hash=item35f612b9d9:g:Pm8AAOSwgyxWUgZ g)

Talked to the bidder, they know the signature is a fake, but they actually were bidding on the "Autographed Copy" sticker! The fact you know your "stickers" is pretty amazing! :clap::clap::clap:

PS. i really didnt talk to the bidder.

[Randall Flagg]

I nominate Ralph, Jerome, and Bob for starters. Decide a winner and bombard that fuck with negative feedback/comments/questions as a united whole!!! LOL LOL LOL "You're the best fraudulent cocksucker of XXXX" determined by the "TDT.Org"!!! LOL LOL LOL
Thanks for the thought but I respectfully decline.

[Merlin1958]

I nominate Ralph, Jerome, and Bob for starters. Decide a winner and bombard that fuck with negative feedback/comments/questions as a united whole!!! LOL LOL LOL "You're the best fraudulent cocksucker of XXXX" determined by the "TDT.Org"!!! LOL LOL LOL
Thanks for the thought but I respectfully decline.

I was just kidding of course!!! LOL

[cit74]

Sorry if someone already posted this one -

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-UNDER-THE-DOME-1ST-EDITION-SIGNED-BY-THE-AUTHOR-2009-/381478874752?hash=item58d1e9ae80:g:9soAAOSwf-VWWlzx

I am no good at posting the actual picture from eBay - but here is the description:

I AM SELLING AN EXCELLENT 1ST EDITION COPY OF STEPHEN KING'S CLASSIC NOVEL "UNDER THE DOME". PUBLISHED IN 2009. PERSONALLY SIGNED BY MR. KING. STRONG SIGNATURE ON COVER PAGE. GUARANTEED AUTHENTIC. BOOK AND DUST JACKET ARE IN FINE CONDITION. A GREAT ADDITION TO ANY SERIOUS COLLECTOR'S LIBRARY.

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/9soAAOSwf-VWWlzx/s-l1600.jpg

[Bunyip]

Unless he is back on the drink I don't like that signature. There's more experienced heads here than mine, but it looks as crook as a three dollar bill.

[AKC]

Terrible....

[divemaster]

Sorry if someone already posted this one -

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-UNDER-THE-DOME-1ST-EDITION-SIGNED-BY-THE-AUTHOR-2009-/381478874752?hash=item58d1e9ae80:g:9soAAOSwf-VWWlzx

I am no good at posting the actual picture from eBay -

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/9soAAOSwf-VWWlzx/s-l1600.jpg

No no no

[Br!an]

Yuck

[jhanic]

thumbsdownlarge

John

[Randall Flagg]

Laughable bad signature.

[cit74]

Laughable bad signature.

yep - so is it even worth contacting the seller to say how bad that signature is? or any bad sig for that matter.

[cit74]

Laughable bad signature.

yep - so is it even worth contacting the seller to say how bad that signature is? or any bad sig for that matter.

[Merlin1958]

Laughable bad signature.

yep - so is it even worth contacting the seller to say how bad that signature is? or any bad sig for that matter.



Laughable bad signature.

yep - so is it even worth contacting the seller to say how bad that signature is? or any bad sig for that matter.


:wtf::wtf::wtf:




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfW-MPUjC_0

[Bunyip]

What about this?
http://i.imgur.com/O0SFBT5.jpg

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

What about this?

Did you sign it? :)

[Bunyip]

What about this?

Did you sign it? :)
BIN £40 eBay.uk ;)

[jhanic]

What about this?

thumbsdownlarge

John

[divemaster]

Good lord, it's like they don't even try to make the forgery look like King's signature. I could do better than that, and I write like shit!

[TCCBodhi]

Is that "Ralph King"?

[OneFathom]

Flat-signed 1st/1st Carrie??? Odd placement of signature (ball-point pen, it appears). Book looks great, though. (http://www.ebay.com/itm/CARRIE-By-Stephen-King-First-Edition-First-Printing-Signed-1974-/371499700126?hash=item567f1b8f9e:g:vlAAAOSwHQ9WX3F f)

[bdwyer19]

What are the thoughts on this signature?

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/bdwyer19/450D03C4-5878-45EE-8FC2-0780850CCEE4_zpsy028in4y.png (http://s103.photobucket.com/user/bdwyer19/media/450D03C4-5878-45EE-8FC2-0780850CCEE4_zpsy028in4y.png.html)

[OneFathom]

What are the thoughts on this signature?

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/bdwyer19/450D03C4-5878-45EE-8FC2-0780850CCEE4_zpsy028in4y.png (http://s103.photobucket.com/user/bdwyer19/media/450D03C4-5878-45EE-8FC2-0780850CCEE4_zpsy028in4y.png.html)

Beautiful. Legit, dude.

[carlosdetweiller]

Yes. I agree. Very nice.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

I agree, a very nice signature. Also, great wireless signal....haha

Mulleins

[bdwyer19]

Excellent. Thanks guys!

[Br!an]

Pretty!

[The Library Policeman]

What about this one, guys?

http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m609/kingpix/Mobile%20Uploads/A9080AEA-FCB2-45B5-B915-8EBA3F24802A_zpsoqzdjl7p.png (http://s1134.photobucket.com/user/kingpix/media/Mobile%20Uploads/A9080AEA-FCB2-45B5-B915-8EBA3F24802A_zpsoqzdjl7p.png.html)

[carlosdetweiller]

I don't think so.

[jhanic]

thumbsdownsmall

John

[killjoy72]

Nope!

[goheat]

Nope, it's a bad one!

[Br!an]

Double post.

John

If you like you can delete these. Click Edit Post > Click Delete > a new frame drops down, click the bubble next to Delete Message > click Delete Post

[The Library Policeman]

Thanks guys.

[jhanic]

Double post.

John

If you like you can delete these. Click Edit Post > Click Delete > a new frame drops down, click the bubble next to Delete Message > click Delete Post

Thanks, Brian! Worked like a charm! I learned something today.

John

[Br!an]

No problem.

It's a little clunky, but it works.

BTW it isn't you that's double posting, it's the site.

... it's the site.

... it's the site.

...it's the site...

[Merlin1958]

No problem.

It's a little clunky, but it works.

BTW it isn't you that's double posting, it's the site.

... it's the site.

... it's the site.

...it's the site...

(Merlin, smacks, Br!an in the back of the head to reset his typing again)

There you go, Br!an all fixed now!!! LOL

[bdwyer19]

What are the thoughts on this signature?

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/bdwyer19/Dark%20Half_zpsiwmmgygy.jpeg (http://s103.photobucket.com/user/bdwyer19/media/Dark%20Half_zpsiwmmgygy.jpeg.html)

[jhanic]

Probably okay.

John

[TCCBodhi]

It looks fine to my amateur eyes, but don't buy/not buy on my interpretation.

[OneFathom]

What are the thoughts on this signature?

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/bdwyer19/Dark%20Half_zpsiwmmgygy.jpeg (http://s103.photobucket.com/user/bdwyer19/media/Dark%20Half_zpsiwmmgygy.jpeg.html)

Stay away from that one, bdwyer19. Looks fake to me.

[carlosdetweiller]

The Dark Half signature is no good.

[bdwyer19]

Thanks for the input, guys.

[Merlin1958]

thumbsdownlarge

[Sovereign]

http://s9.postimg.org/723fl5ylr/eotd.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

Opinions? I'm trying to get better at telling them myself, but his signature varies from signing to signing just enough to throw me off. I'd say this looks good, except for the 'g' on King is a little odd (nothing crazy though), and the loop on the 'n' in Stephen looks both fluid and a bit bumpy on top.

[frik]

I don't think so...

sk

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

EOTD No, no, no.

[carlosdetweiller]

No on TEOTD sig.

[OneFathom]

http://s9.postimg.org/723fl5ylr/eotd.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

Opinions? I'm trying to get better at telling them myself, but his signature varies from signing to signing just enough to throw me off. I'd say this looks good, except for the 'g' on King is a little odd (nothing crazy though), and the loop on the 'n' in Stephen looks both fluid and a bit bumpy on top.

Nope. Fake.

[jonp]

thumbsdownlarge

[TCCBodhi]

There wouldn't be an uneven stroke on the "swoop" part of the signature if it was real...among other things.

[goheat]

Oh goody! I can finally get a nice signed copy of the Salem's Lot Illustrated Edition (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Salems-Lot-Illustrated-Edition-Signed-by-Stephen-King-1st-Edition-1st-Print-/151912990017?hash=item235eb84541:g:uIQAAOSwHQ9Ways D)! Or not. And seller has just listed more spew. And still this scuzbag has 100% positive feedback. SMFH...

[Br!an]

:emot-roflolmao:

[webstar1000]

Oh goody! I can finally get a nice signed copy of the Salem's Lot Illustrated Edition (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Salems-Lot-Illustrated-Edition-Signed-by-Stephen-King-1st-Edition-1st-Print-/151912990017?hash=item235eb84541:g:uIQAAOSwHQ9Ways D)! Or not. And seller has just listed more spew. And still this scuzbag has 100% positive feedback. SMFH...

I contacted him. LOL

[jsweet]

Oh goody! I can finally get a nice signed copy of the Salem's Lot Illustrated Edition (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Salems-Lot-Illustrated-Edition-Signed-by-Stephen-King-1st-Edition-1st-Print-/151912990017?hash=item235eb84541:g:uIQAAOSwHQ9Ways D)! Or not. And seller has just listed more spew. And still this scuzbag has 100% positive feedback. SMFH...

OK, I think this seller bought some King books from me a while back and I'm pretty sure that Christine was one of them. But since it was unsigned when I sold it, and he had to invest in the time machine to go back and get it signed in 1986, I think it would be well worth the purchase price.

[goheat]

Oh goody! I can finally get a nice signed copy of the Salem's Lot Illustrated Edition (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Salems-Lot-Illustrated-Edition-Signed-by-Stephen-King-1st-Edition-1st-Print-/151912990017?hash=item235eb84541:g:uIQAAOSwHQ9Ways D)! Or not. And seller has just listed more spew. And still this scuzbag has 100% positive feedback. SMFH...

I contacted him. LOL

You have to look at this seller's 'signed' Bazaar of Bad Dreams. Laughable!

[RC65]

Oh goody! I can finally get a nice signed copy of the Salem's Lot Illustrated Edition (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Salems-Lot-Illustrated-Edition-Signed-by-Stephen-King-1st-Edition-1st-Print-/151912990017?hash=item235eb84541:g:uIQAAOSwHQ9Ways D)! Or not. And seller has just listed more spew. And still this scuzbag has 100% positive feedback. SMFH...

I contacted him. LOL

You have to look at this seller's 'signed' Bazaar of Bad Dreams. Laughable!

Wow, just...wow. I always get a good chuckle out of this thread, but that one...wow.

[Randall Flagg]

Oh goody! I can finally get a nice signed copy of the Salem's Lot Illustrated Edition (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Salems-Lot-Illustrated-Edition-Signed-by-Stephen-King-1st-Edition-1st-Print-/151912990017?hash=item235eb84541:g:uIQAAOSwHQ9Ways D)! Or not. And seller has just listed more spew. And still this scuzbag has 100% positive feedback. SMFH...

I contacted him. LOL
Almost seems like fun to bid $2 and hope yuo win the auction. Add in the $5 shipping and for $7 you can leave negative feedback and out the seller.

[goheat]

Oh goody! I can finally get a nice signed copy of the Salem's Lot Illustrated Edition (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Salems-Lot-Illustrated-Edition-Signed-by-Stephen-King-1st-Edition-1st-Print-/151912990017?hash=item235eb84541:g:uIQAAOSwHQ9Ways D)! Or not. And seller has just listed more spew. And still this scuzbag has 100% positive feedback. SMFH...

I contacted him. LOL
Almost seems like fun to bid $2 and hope yuo win the auction. Add in the $5 shipping and for $7 you can leave negative feedback and out the seller.

Oh it's getting better. Now this loser has a secondary EBay ID and is selling more crapola: Look HERE (http://www.ebay.com/sch/mott72us/m.html?item=291636838158&hash=item43e6e8ff0e%3Ag%3Av3cAAOSw7FRWazKl&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562)

[Br!an]

I'm going to start buying these. EBay does nothing.

I could buy it, leave negative feedback and then cancel/return the item.

[Randall Flagg]

I'm going to start buying these. EBay does nothing.

I could buy it, leave negative feedback and then cancel/return the item.
I bid $1.05 on the 'Salem's Lot. Hope I win.

[cit74]

i am pretty sure that was my son caleb's writing - looks similar.

[firemonkey66]

Oh goody! I can finally get a nice signed copy of the Salem's Lot Illustrated Edition (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Salems-Lot-Illustrated-Edition-Signed-by-Stephen-King-1st-Edition-1st-Print-/151912990017?hash=item235eb84541:g:uIQAAOSwHQ9Ways D)! Or not. And seller has just listed more spew. And still this scuzbag has 100% positive feedback. SMFH...

I contacted him. LOL

You have to look at this seller's 'signed' Bazaar of Bad Dreams. Laughable!

Oh my god, that Bazaar of Bad Dreams signature is awesome. I think I could forge a better Stephen King signature with my penis.

[T-Dogz_AK47]

Oh my god, that Bazaar of Bad Dreams signature is awesome. I think I could forge a better Stephen King signature with my penis.

The seller has been careful with his listing, as he doesn't specifically claim that it's signed by Stephen King...

"Hi, you are viewing The Bazaar of Bad Dreams SIGNED : Stories by Stephen King (2015, Hardcover) This book is in like new condition, thanks for viewing and good luck bidding."


However it's so bad, I think the seller actually did sign it with his cock.... :doh:

The-Bazaar-of-Bad-Dreams-SIGNED-Stories-by-Stephen-King-2015-Hardcover (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/The-Bazaar-of-Bad-Dreams-SIGNED-Stories-by-Stephen-King-2015-Hardcover-/151912963806?hash=item235eb7dede:g:-OUAAOSw7FRWaySK)

[sharki69]

He listed 6 signed books.

I emailed him. Unreal

[Randall Flagg]

Oh my god, that Bazaar of Bad Dreams signature is awesome. I think I could forge a better Stephen King signature with my penis.

Don't be a dick...

[Br!an]

Some people named Richard go by the name Dick. I keep calling a friend of mine Dick but he doesn't like it.

That might be because his name is Kevin. :wtf:

[CurtSeattle]

Reported to FeeBay. They should require seller to specifically state NOT signed by Stephen King or remove "signed" from listing title at a minimum.

It is seriously so bad, I can't even believe how bad.

I attached a pen to my..... never mind, but it was a better forgery in my opinion.

[Br!an]

I don't have a prehensile penis and so find it much easier to shove a pen up my MODERATED. :wtf:

[Randall Flagg]

Reported to FeeBay. They should require seller to specifically state NOT signed by Stephen King or remove "signed" from listing title at a minimum.

It is seriously so bad, I can't even believe how bad.

I attached a pen to my..... never mind, but it was a better forgery in my opinion.

I think I'm going to actually attempt this (with a PB or something).

Edit:

I tried but a pen is simply too small to attach. I think I'll try something a bit easier to attach

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/5a/76/6d/5a766d4979d9e0fa1776f9d08f164ff8.jpg

[firemonkey66]

LOL, bunch of comedians around here... I love it:)

[Randall Flagg]

I'm going to start buying these. EBay does nothing.

I could buy it, leave negative feedback and then cancel/return the item.
I bid $1.05 on the 'Salem's Lot. Hope I win.
Auction is up to $15. I'm out.

[Br!an]

I hope none of our loved ones are bidding on these for us for Christmas.

[Bunyip]

Bazaar is possibly the worst I've ever seen. It should be reported to EBay. Some poor bastard is going to get stitched up.

[Br!an]

The bidders must be low information buyers. Even if I had no idea what King's signature looked like I would be suspicious of such a horribly executed forgery.

[mosheprigan]

[QUOTE=firemonkey66;964237]

Oh my god, that Bazaar of Bad Dreams signature is awesome. I think I could forge a better Stephen King signature with my penis.

The seller has been careful with his listing, as he doesn't specifically claim that it's signed by Stephen King...

"Hi, you are viewing The Bazaar of Bad Dreams SIGNED : Stories by Stephen King (2015, Hardcover) This book is in like new condition, thanks for viewing and good luck bidding."


However it's so bad, I think the seller actually did sign it with his cock.... :doh:

LOOOOOOOOOL

[mosheprigan]

Another fake done by somebody's cock? looks like a 'circumcised' signature ...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Finders-Keepers-Signed-by-Stephen-King-1st-Edition-1st-Print-2015-Hardcover-/291636838158

[frik]

Reported it, Moshe, like all of this guy's books.
A real shame he has been selling these for quite some time.

sk

[mosheprigan]

Reported it, Moshe, like all of this guy's books.
A real shame he has been selling these for quite some time.

sk

Man, so many fakes out there. eBay is an Inferno of Fakes. I think among the authors, King's sig is the most forged. But eBay doesn't punish them. I found in eBay only ONE U. Eco faked sig during my about 10 years of collecting him.

[Cwalker]

Another fake done by somebody's cock? looks like a 'circumcised' signature ...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Finders-Keepers-Signed-by-Stephen-King-1st-Edition-1st-Print-2015-Hardcover-/291636838158

Reported +1, for all the good it does.....

[CurtSeattle]

Another fake done by somebody's cock? looks like a 'circumcised' signature ...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Finders-Keepers-Signed-by-Stephen-King-1st-Edition-1st-Print-2015-Hardcover-/291636838158

PLEASE STOP WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND TAKE THE TIME TO GO TO EBAY AND REPORT EACH AND EVERY LISTING FOR THESE TWO USERNAMES (SAME PERSON FROM SAME CITY). If we all take the time to do it asap, the Ebay will see it and block both these usernames and slow this jerk down at least.

Go to listing and then go to "other items for sale" on right handside towards top. You can search for "signed" within that username current auctions and then click on each auction with a fake signature. You do this by going to the middle of the auction on the right hand side.
Report Item, Listing Practices, Search and Browse manipulation. I've started doing this b/c I can type in a message and state what issue is. "FAKE SIGNATURES on all listings!!"

MOTT72US
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Revival-Signed-by-Stephen-King-1st-Edition-1st-Print-2014-Hardcover-/301822687760?hash=item464608ba10:g:Fg8AAOSwcOFWazG N

Pearwate
http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Bazaar-of-Bad-Dreams-SIGNED-Stories-by-Stephen-King-2015-Hardcover-/151912963806?hash=item235eb7dede:g:-OUAAOSw7FRWaySK

No one is in a position to stop this more than the people reading this right now. WE are the largest organized vocal group that follows (obsesses on?) Stephen King, so if WE don't stay on this then it will get worse. If we issue 30 "reports" on these repeat offenders, then Ebay will ban them and it won't be worth it for them to keep doing it.

Curt

[Randall Flagg]

We can (and I will) report the auctions, but on some of them the seller is doing a 24 auction starting on Friday afternoon, perhaps hoping that ebay won't catch him in such a short time.

I just C&P'd the same statement for each item:

Blatantly fake Stephen King signature.
Buyer also has another ebay I.D: pearwate

[mosheprigan]

Another fake done by somebody's cock? looks like a 'circumcised' signature ...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Finders-Keepers-Signed-by-Stephen-King-1st-Edition-1st-Print-2015-Hardcover-/291636838158

Reported +1, for all the good it does.....

REPORTED + 1.

[T-Dogz_AK47]

Wouldn't it be better to win the auction, allow him to post it to you through USPS, and then when it arrives in the post, take the package unopened to the Police and report him for mail fraud?

That way we could have him charged with a federal offence... :idea:

[Br!an]

I'm getting ill watching people buy these.

eBay won't do anything.:nope:

[Br!an]

Wouldn't it be better to win the auction, allow him to post it to you through USPS, and then when it arrives in the post, take the package unopened to the Police and report him for mail fraud?

That way we could have him charged with a federal offence... :idea:

It takes a certain level of evidence of criminality to charge a person. Also the authorities just don't give a shit.

It took a lot to get rid of brennan. Years of selling forgeries and they did nothing. He was finally caught when he bought a book on eBay signed by many but not King and then tried to sell it a month later as "signed" by all including King. It was obviously the same book since the authors had all randomly signed and some had drawn doodles.

King has the ability to issue take down notices. He could even require eBay to vet all "signed" King books through his office. He chooses not to involve himself.

edit: I don't blame King for not wanting to spend any energy fighting these assholes. However I do wish he was willing to delegate the responsibility.

[CurtSeattle]

Wouldn't it be better to win the auction, allow him to post it to you through USPS, and then when it arrives in the post, take the package unopened to the Police and report him for mail fraud?

That way we could have him charged with a federal offence... :idea:

Hard to prove without somehow having King involved. Even a handwriting expert would have to use a for sure King signed item and then the defendant attorney is going to provide their own handwriting experts saying the "official" King signature doesn't look any more real than the signature in question, so only way is to bug King and have him sign in person since he is alive and blah blah blah. Too high of cost vs reward in the end which is what these types rely on.

Have to make it too costly for Sellerto even bother anymore and really EBay policing is the only way as there is no way to force comments onto the listing unless the seller chooses to post any questions. Would be nice if any questions were auto-posted, so the community could police things, but then it would goof up auctions as people posted lower priced links and whatnot by way of questions.

I think if "blocks" of reporting come in on specific sellers it will get to a human reviewer and that's the only way to stop these specific bulk fraudulent sellers as they come up. EBay must have a human review for a bunch of "reports" in a short amount of time b/c that is going to look like Nudity, Weaponry, etc... At least I think logically that is what kind of thing generates focused reporting in a shorter timeframe and would be something that EBay would need to act on quickly so if we can leverage EBay's logical methodology process to get a human to look at our issue, then might as well try.

I believe if we make an effort focusing on specific bad usernames on ebay, then we can make a difference. The user will give up if every auction keeps getting flagged by 100 people. At least you'd think at some point Ebay would step in and tell us to stop or them to stop. Either way is a better outcome than it stands now in my mind.

EDIT: Just read Brian's post above about King issuing a mandate about his signatures on Ebay. I think that is a GREAT idea to do in addition to constant vigilance in reporting obvious fraudulent listings. His "office" can issue the statement and it's the kind of thing that EBay WILL at least look at b/c of who King is. If WE made it super easy for Stephen King's reps to issue this to EBay then it might happen. Has to be nice and logical and have numerous obvious examples of sold auctions and bad sellers and who better than us to have that almost already done and ready to go right from this very forum? Shows support for King and also is a good thing for everyone from a Karma standpoint. Cannot lump in just questionable one or two time sellers though. ONLY can apply to obvious repeat offenders or will not happen.
Curt

[Cwalker]

As usual I haven't thought this all the way through but what if ther was a way to force some kind of acknowledgment of this problem by Ebay on a large, public scale? Bloggers and forum posters are only going to go so far. There must be somebody on this site who either knows a major newsreporter type person (CNN, New York Times, Daily Mail) etc. or at least knows a guy who knows a guy. An article on the editorial page, or a CNBC Consumer Report full of "no comments" from Ebay may go a long way to them fixing the problem, or at least bring attention to the buyers that are being scammed.

Anyone here have that kind of pull?

[Bunyip]

Another Horror story..( not the kind we like)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SIGNED-STEPHEN-KING-The-Tommyknockers-Tommy-Knockers-HBK-/181951093261?hash=item2a5d215a0d:g:J3EAAOSwAKxWYYj y

[jonp]

Another Horror story..( not the kind we like)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SIGNED-STEPHEN-KING-The-Tommyknockers-Tommy-Knockers-HBK-/181951093261?hash=item2a5d215a0d:g:J3EAAOSwAKxWYYj y

Shocking! And bidding up to £52.

[RC65]

Another Horror story..( not the kind we like)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SIGNED-STEPHEN-KING-The-Tommyknockers-Tommy-Knockers-HBK-/181951093261?hash=item2a5d215a0d:g:J3EAAOSwAKxWYYj y

Shocking! And bidding up to £52.

With as many examples as there are on-line of authentic King sigs, I don't understand why prospective bidders don't take a moment to research their purchase. I'm not suggesting they're responsible for their own victimization, but buyers should be informed and beware enough to at least minimize the chance of it. Anyone bidding on the above auction clearly didn't even take a moment to help themselves; it's frankly kind of hard to sympathize when their interest in aiding themselves is so absent.

[terrier91]

My apologies if this is the wrong thread, but I have an eBay question. Have any of you guys ever canceled a bid on one of your auctions because of zero feedback for the bidder? This bidder just created their account today and has bid on a fairly expensive item of mine, topping bids from a bidder with a great feedback rating.

[Br!an]

Everyone on eBay started sometime.

I wouldn't block a bidder simply because he was new.

If he wins and pays then it's all good. If he wins and doesn't pay then you offer it to the other bidder as a second chance.

[terrier91]

Thanks Brian. I appreciate the reply :-)

[OneFathom]

Everyone on eBay started sometime.

I wouldn't block a bidder simply because he was new.

If he wins and pays then it's all good. If he wins and doesn't pay then you offer it to the other bidder as a second chance.

Exactly. If your item has bids on it other than ones from the highest bidder, I'm sure other bidders would be happy to have it at a lower price if the winner doesn't pay. Little-to-no risk for you.

[bdwyer19]

Thoughts on this signed Regulators?

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/bdwyer19/333b52e7-9bbe-4aa3-9223-7fc7b36590d2_zps6bkala8t.jpg (http://s103.photobucket.com/user/bdwyer19/media/333b52e7-9bbe-4aa3-9223-7fc7b36590d2_zps6bkala8t.jpg.html)

[goheat]

Thoughts on this signed Regulators?

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/bdwyer19/333b52e7-9bbe-4aa3-9223-7fc7b36590d2_zps6bkala8t.jpg (http://s103.photobucket.com/user/bdwyer19/media/333b52e7-9bbe-4aa3-9223-7fc7b36590d2_zps6bkala8t.jpg.html)

I vote no good. Too shaky and wrong angle, for starters...

[Merlin1958]

thumbsdownlarge

[carlosdetweiller]

No.

[bdwyer19]

Thanks for the confirmation. I didn't like it either, but wanted to make sure.

[Brian James Freeman]

Are there days when all of the fake signatures on eBay really bum you out.... or is it just me?

Brian

[zelig]

Are there days when all of the fake signatures on eBay really bum you out.... or is it just me?

Brian

Yes it sucks. I feel for the collectors who buy them.

[carlosdetweiller]

Are there days when all of the fake signatures on eBay really bum you out.... or is it just me?


For me there is no difference from day to day. It is just what I have come to expect from eBay. I have been looking at this crap for years.

[tippy4]

My apologies if this is the wrong thread, but I have an eBay question. Have any of you guys ever canceled a bid on one of your auctions because of zero feedback for the bidder? This bidder just created their account today and has bid on a fairly expensive item of mine, topping bids from a bidder with a great feedback rating.

Why would you?

I actually had a situation this week where it looks like a buyer with ZERO feedback is not going to pay me, but I would never cancel a bid from someone with zero feedbacks.

If they pay you great, and if not, you relist....or offer it to the 2nd highest bidder.

[terrier91]

My apologies if this is the wrong thread, but I have an eBay question. Have any of you guys ever canceled a bid on one of your auctions because of zero feedback for the bidder? This bidder just created their account today and has bid on a fairly expensive item of mine, topping bids from a bidder with a great feedback rating.

Why would you?

I actually had a situation this week where it looks like a buyer with ZERO feedback is not going to pay me, but I would never cancel a bid from someone with zero feedbacks.

If they pay you great, and if not, you relist....or offer it to the 2nd highest bidder.

Thanks Rick. The zero feedback bidder ended up getting outbid. I realize that we all started somewhere, just made me a little uneasy as it was an expensive item.

[tippy4]

Any chance your ZERO FEEDBACK BUYER'S name starts with "frank"?

[terrier91]

Any chance your ZERO FEEDBACK BUYER'S name starts with "frank"?

No, not on this auction.

[Johnny007]

Another fake done by somebody's cock? looks like a 'circumcised' signature ...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Finders-Keepers-Signed-by-Stephen-King-1st-Edition-1st-Print-2015-Hardcover-/291636838158

I absolutely hate this crap. I wish I had more time to do something meaningful to stop this. Maybe in 2016.... Anyway, here are the e-mail conversations we had:

johnny007:
On 11/12/15 -- Dear mott72us,

You're trying to sell books with forged signatures and passing them off as having been signed by Stephen King. That is fraud and fraud is a felony. Please pull your ads and save yourself a big hassle.

Response on 12/12/15:

you have nothing else to do? i get my books from auctions and books sales. so if you care to comment again i will not read it, just delete it, have a nice day and Marry Christmas.
- mott72us

johnny007:
On 22/12/15 Dear mott72us,

Marry Christmas??? You, and your aliases, will soon be ferretted out. Your little tricks will not be enough for a fraud charge to stick. I wish you were an honest person selling real SK signatures instead of the crap we see now. Mott, karma is a bitch, you know? And I hope you feel that very soon!

Response on 23/12/15:
I buy my books at actions and book sales thu out the mud west and thought they were real. I will have pay more to have them checked out if run across any more.

If anyone sees an SK auction with a forged signature coming from mott72us or pearwhite (I think that's another alias), please let me know. I'd like another chance to make him stop AND for eBay to get its head out of its ass. Thanks!

John

[Merlin1958]

johnny007,

Believe me when I say I hear you and sympathize with you, but it's better that everyone get over the idea that "eBay" gives a flying fuck about this kind of thing. As long as they are collecting their desired fees they cannot care less. I am certain they have a building full of lawyers that have them indemnified up the proverbial wazoo, regardless of what they may "officially" say. The idea that "ebay" will actually take any action is just silly and will drive you crazy in the end. All we can do is trust one another, identify the fakers, share the info and move on IMHO


Seriously, out of the hundreds of fake sigs we all have seen I bet you can count on one hand the amount of times that ebay has actually done something corrective.

[Johnny007]

johnny007,

Believe me when I say I hear you and sympathize with you, but it's better that everyone get over the idea that "eBay" gives a flying fuck about this kind of thing. As long as they are collecting their desired fees they cannot care less. I am certain they have a building full of lawyers that have them indemnified up the proverbial wazoo, regardless of what they may "officially" say. The idea that "ebay" will actually take any action is just silly and will drive you crazy in the end. All we can do is trust one another, identify the fakers, share the info and move on IMHO


Seriously, out of the hundreds of fake sigs we all have seen I bet you can count on one hand the amount of times that ebay has actually done something corrective.

Bill,

I don't want eBay to do a damn thing. They are complicit in a fraudulent transaction. I want the cheats prosecuted and pay. Every forgery sold diminishes our collections, hobby, investment, etc. It keeps potential SK collectors away from becoming serious collectors (or readers of SK work) and that's a shame. And these fucks are committing a crime... I don't ask for any help to try and get rid of this scourge but I'm going to give it a shot. And, once in a while, I'll report back -- the good, the bad or indifferent!

And thanks again for the tip about uploading images here. I can't see anything but apparently everyone else can and that's the most important thing! Have a Happy (HEALTHY) New Year!

John

[jhanic]

And thanks again for the tip about uploading images here. I can't see anything but apparently everyone else can and that's the most important thing! Have a Happy (HEALTHY) New Year!

John

John, I've discovered that some browsers do not show pictures as many others do. I use Firefox and have not have had a problem.

John

[Johnny007]

Thanks, John. I'll give it a try and let you know if I find success.

John

[Br!an]

Ralph, Room 217 Caretaker has been involved in a few cases of forgery investigation and prosecution. He's on vacation right now, but I'm sure he'll chime in when he can.

There are a lot of problems in prosecuting either civil or criminal cases against these guys.

Disclaimer: I am not an attorney. I only play one on internet forums. :wtf: I am however a contractor and understand the law. State laws vary.

Criminal law:



Forgery requires proof that the accused actually forged the document. That is non-existent.



Passing forged instruments requires proof that the person knew they were selling a forged document. Unfortunately, that is also non-existent. After all (s)he bought them at "auctions and books sales."



Fraud would seem to apply. Again though there is that argument of "auctions and books sales." Without intent there is no provable crime.


Passing off the same bad signature repeatedly might be enough to prove passing forged instruments or fraud if the prosecutor is willing.




Civil law:




Fraud (redux) is actionable. I won't post the defenses.

Suffice to say that there are multiple problems in prosecuting such a case. If the damages are great enough though it might be worth it.


Federal law:


There are interstate commerce laws or postal fraud laws that can be enforced if there is adequate evidence of a crime.

[jsweet]

Oh, dear god

http://www.ebay.com/itm/201494134891

[T-Dogz_AK47]

Oh, dear god

http://www.ebay.com/itm/201494134891

Yep, that looks like it was signed by someone's cock all right... :doh:

In fact, if you compare the signature to the forgery from Pearwate's previous Bazaar of Bad Dreams listing, it looks identical, and therefore signed with the same cock! :wtf:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/The-Bazaar-of-Bad-Dreams-SIGNED-Stories-by-Stephen-King-2015-Hardcover (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/The-Bazaar-of-Bad-Dreams-SIGNED-Stories-by-Stephen-King-2015-Hardcover-/151912963806?rmvSB=true&hash=item235eb7dede%3Ag%3A-OUAAOSw7FRWaySK&clk_rvr_id=959725824136&nma=true&si=lKeny6CkKd5%252FduM0imv9DTsdRuY%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557)

I think Pearwate is using yet another account on eBay, because it definitely looks like he is using his knob to sign both books...

[Randall Flagg]

NOT signed by King. Interesting that it is numbered:
Stephen King Insomnia - Signed Limited Edition with slip case - #551 of 1250 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-Insomnia-Signed-Limited-Edition-with-slip-case-551-of-1250-/172039872927?hash=item280e60219f:g:4H0AAOSwSHZWfBv N)

[goheat]

Unbelievable that this is already at $250! CRAP!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321959192585

[jhanic]

Unbelievable that this is already at $250! CRAP!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321959192585

There are currently five bidders on this piece of ****. The current high bidder has a feedback of four. Obviously he/she doesn't know what they're doing.

John

[needfulthings]

NOT signed by King. Interesting that it is numbered:
Stephen King Insomnia - Signed Limited Edition with slip case - #551 of 1250 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-Insomnia-Signed-Limited-Edition-with-slip-case-551-of-1250-/172039872927?hash=item280e60219f:g:4H0AAOSwSHZWfBv N)
IMHO I think the seller posted the wrong picture since he listed the books number & the buyer got a good deal.

[Randall Flagg]

NOT signed by King. Interesting that it is numbered:
Stephen King Insomnia - Signed Limited Edition with slip case - #551 of 1250 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-Insomnia-Signed-Limited-Edition-with-slip-case-551-of-1250-/172039872927?hash=item280e60219f:g:4H0AAOSwSHZWfBv N)
IMHO I think the seller posted the wrong picture since he listed the books number & the buyer got a good deal.
That would be good for the buyer, but the limitation # is on the page (hard to confirm what number), and there is no King signature.

[needfulthings]

Unless some pictures have been removed from the bid site. There were no pictures of any limitation page posted from the book that was sold. The gift edition 3,750 pictured has no limitation page at all. So are you assuming that the book sold was not signed just going only by the picture & not by the description?
Seller knew the limitation # & I think the only way they would know that was that they had the SIGNED book in hand.

[Randall Flagg]

Unless some pictures have been removed from the bid site. There were no pictures of any limitation page posted from the book that was sold. The gift edition 3,750 pictured has no limitation page at all. So are you assuming that the book sold was not signed just going only by the picture & not by the description?
The original auction had 2 pictures. I'm "assuming" the picture in the auction listing showed a S/L limitation page that was missing Stephen King's signature (I assume because there is no King signature). Unless someone here wins the auction and lets us know, we might never find out what was actually shipped to the winner.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-Insomnia-Signed-Limited-Edition-with-slip-case-551-of-1250-/172039872927?rmvSB=true&hash=item280e60219f%3Ag%3A4H0AAOSwSHZWfBvN&nma=true&si=w31cIsDxIFAR5HoNKoNAR8mXLdc%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

http://www.thedarktower.org/custom/images/1451598809-Insomnia.jpg

[Dan]

I see a limitations page in the second picture. It has two signatures but is missing Kings. The number appears to match the listing. I saw this and couldn't figure it out either.

[goheat]

Unbelievable that this is already at $250! CRAP!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321959192585

There are currently five bidders on this piece of ****. The current high bidder has a feedback of four. Obviously he/she doesn't know what they're doing.

John

Wow, it sold for $356.51. Someone got hosed!

[Rahfa]

Unbelievable that this is already at $250! CRAP!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321959192585

There are currently five bidders on this piece of ****. The current high bidder has a feedback of four. Obviously he/she doesn't know what they're doing.

John

Wow, it sold for $356.51. Someone got hosed!

Doubly bad - the poor "winner" came in at the last minute with the high bad.

[needfulthings]

I see a limitations page in the second picture. It has two signatures but is missing Kings. The number appears to match the listing. I saw this and couldn't figure it out either.
I stand corrected the auction site I saw had no 2nd picture of the limitations page & you are right Kings signature is missing.
It should look like this
http://imageshack.com/a/img908/6269/AhHpSU.jpg

Now the question is Was the photo of the book the actual book sold... a gift edition with a signed limitation page (a 1 of a kind artists edition)?:lol:

[Merlin1958]

johnny007,

Believe me when I say I hear you and sympathize with you, but it's better that everyone get over the idea that "eBay" gives a flying fuck about this kind of thing. As long as they are collecting their desired fees they cannot care less. I am certain they have a building full of lawyers that have them indemnified up the proverbial wazoo, regardless of what they may "officially" say. The idea that "ebay" will actually take any action is just silly and will drive you crazy in the end. All we can do is trust one another, identify the fakers, share the info and move on IMHO


Seriously, out of the hundreds of fake sigs we all have seen I bet you can count on one hand the amount of times that ebay has actually done something corrective.

Bill,

I don't want eBay to do a damn thing. They are complicit in a fraudulent transaction. I want the cheats prosecuted and pay. Every forgery sold diminishes our collections, hobby, investment, etc. It keeps potential SK collectors away from becoming serious collectors (or readers of SK work) and that's a shame. And these fucks are committing a crime... I don't ask for any help to try and get rid of this scourge but I'm going to give it a shot. And, once in a while, I'll report back -- the good, the bad or indifferent!

And thanks again for the tip about uploading images here. I can't see anything but apparently everyone else can and that's the most important thing! Have a Happy (HEALTHY) New Year!

John

Hey, I'm with you on this. It's just that I don't see how you are going to have any real impact. Especially, without the help of ebay in some way. Having said that I wish you nothing but the best of luck and success. Otherwise, as I said our best defense is the folks on this site. IMHO Best of luck to you and I'll always be available to assist in anyway!!!

[Rahfa]

Hey, I'm with you on this. It's just that I don't see how you are going to have any real impact. Especially, without the help of ebay in some way. Having said that I wish you nothing but the best of luck and success. Otherwise, as I said our best defense is the folks on this site. IMHO Best of luck to you and I'll always be available to assist in anyway!!!

Right - the best defense is being an educated buyer - ultimately anybody with a clue can do research before spending stupid money on bad autographs.

It's easy to blame Ebay - but I'm not sure I want them picking and choosing what auctions to cancel or not....because then they'll inevitably let bad auctions through, but cancel a few good ones...so it's better to have them be a platform and let adults make their own decisions.

OTOH, it would be nice if King's office stepped in for the worst examples.

[CurtSeattle]

Unbelievable that this is already at $250! CRAP!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321959192585

There are currently five bidders on this piece of ****. The current high bidder has a feedback of four. Obviously he/she doesn't know what they're doing.

John

Wow, it sold for $356.51. Someone got hosed!

Doubly bad - the poor "winner" came in at the last minute with the high bad.

I reported this and am reporting auctions even after the fact. If you choose the "counterfeit" drop down options then you can leave a short typed description. 100% FAKE Signature is what I start with each time. Now I guess it's 99.9% fake b/c you never know, but if you don't put 100% then Ebay isn't going to even look at it. Have to be 100% in saying 100%. See the power of the full 100%? haha! :)

[Rahfa]

I reported this and am reporting auctions even after the fact. If you choose the "counterfeit" drop down options then you can leave a short typed description. 100% FAKE Signature is what I start with each time. Now I guess it's 99.9% fake b/c you never know, but if you don't put 100% then Ebay isn't going to even look at it. Have to be 100% in saying 100%. See the power of the full 100%? haha! :)

I did this a few times years ago...it's a pain, not sure it's worthwhile, but worth doing. Plus, if nothing else, you feel like it might accomplish something! So I'd keep plugging away.

[jsmcmullen92]

This any good?
http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/775/medium/20160102_133242.jpg?5769

[jonp]

Looks good to me. I wonder if the Richard Adams is the author?

[jsmcmullen92]

There are rwo of them here both inscribed to him. Needfulthings and The Dark Half.

[Br!an]

Looks good to me too.

[needfulthings]

Because King signed the last name I would assume so.IMHO

[frik]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CARRIE-By-Stephen-King-First-Edition-First-Printing-Signed-1974-/161935169030?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276

Thoughts anyone??

sk

[carlosdetweiller]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CARRIE-By-Stephen-King-First-Edition-First-Printing-Signed-1974-/161935169030?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276

Thoughts anyone??

sk

I think the signature is good and likely signed near publication date. Most of the Carrie's signed with a contemporary (i.e. 1974) signature that I have seen have also been inscribed. So this one is, IMO, somewhat unusual. But I do think the signature is legit.

[T-Dogz_AK47]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CARRIE-By-Stephen-King-First-Edition-First-Printing-Signed-1974-/161935169030?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276

Thoughts anyone??

sk

I DO NOT like that 'Stephen King' signature one bit. It's full of pen lifts and hesitations. To me, it screams fake! :nope:

It also looks like the seller has scrubbed out the previous owner's name on the endpapers with a scouring pad or industrial strength sandpaper! The end result looks absolutely shit!!! :doh:

The fact that the seller is charging $1,400 for this is a joke. :rolleyes:


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[Priest]

I have doubts don't like the signature at all. The g looks like somebody had to finish it In two tries , and overall it's not what I have seen so far. Would be careful

[peripheral]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CARRIE-By-Stephen-King-First-Edition-First-Printing-Signed-1974-/161935169030?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276

Thoughts anyone??

sk

It's a fake, missing more than one of the idiosyncratic points. And what's worse, whoever did it, defaced a Carrie 1st!

[carlosdetweiller]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CARRIE-By-Stephen-King-First-Edition-First-Printing-Signed-1974-/161935169030?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276

Thoughts anyone??

sk

It's a fake, missing more than one of the idiosyncratic points. And what's worse, whoever did it, defaced a Carrie 1st!

You guys could be right. I might have some doubts on this one. It does look a bit large for a typical 1974 signature. But what idiosyncratic points are you talking about?

[jonp]

The very early King signatures did not have the loop around the the Stephen, I have seen similar early signatures. Though as Bob said they are usually inscribed and dated. That is the main thing that worries me.

[peripheral]

The very early King signatures did not have the loop around the the Stephen, I have seen similar early signatures. Though as Bob said they are usually inscribed and dated. That is the main thing that worries me.

I stand corrected if you've seen earlier authentic signatures which look like this. Earliest I've seen is a 1974 signature (somewhere on this forum, I think) , and The "G" is noticeably different - the "ball" on the "g" came later I think. If this is an earlier signature, the signer has tried to mimic his later style "G", IMO. I also don't like th "K". But isn't that the problem with flat signed, it's just fraught with doubt. I've learned the hard way. First flat signed I bought looked great in the photos, but when I purchased it I saw it was way too small to be authentic. Now I only get S/Ls for this reason.

[jonp]

I don't think I would ever be confident buying off eBay including this Carrie. I could never be 100% sure. I only have a handful of flatsigned books, either from members here or Betts. I only really buy S/Ls as you know what you're getting.

[carlosdetweiller]

I stand corrected if you've seen earlier authentic signatures which look like this. Earliest I've seen is a 1974 signature (somewhere on this forum, I think) , and The "G" is noticeably different - the "ball" on the "g" came later I think. If this is an earlier signature, the signer has tried to mimic his later style "G", IMO. I also don't like th "K".

Interesting discussion. I'm really on the fence with this one. I am having some doubts and I am starting to be concerned with the size of the signature. As to the "ball" of the "g" I think it goes back much further than we might think. But it seems to be intermittent until much later when it became constant. Here is a copy of MOTH presumably signed in 1970 where he sort of tries to make a ball.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/carlosdetweiller/mothsigs_zps1f4781e9.jpg

And then here are two copies of Carrie with signatures one day apart....one with a "ball" and one without.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/carlosdetweiller/16carrie1_zpseealzgpx.jpg

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/carlosdetweiller/16carrie2_zpsfmvy1vgl.jpg

I think there is enough doubt and possible red flags to stay away from this one but I am not 100% convinced it is fake.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

I have a 1978 (The Stand) signature with the loop. There seems to be a question about earlier signatures didn't have it:

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/668/medium/The_Stand_signed_1978.JPG

Mulleins

[Rahfa]

I think both those 1974 signatures are good - not just the signature but the whole inscription looks fine. The "1974" in both is basically identical.

Tough with those early sigs, though, since there are so few to compare them too.

[carlosdetweiller]

I think both those 1974 signatures are good - not just the signature but the whole inscription looks fine. The "1974" in both is basically identical.

Tough with those early sigs, though, since there are so few to compare them too.

I've never really questioned either of those copies of Carrie inscribed in 1974 even though they have some differences. April 16, 1974 was the date of the first official King signing event. He had probably signed quite a few signatures before the one to Robert Rowe and was getting into a groove. The one on April 15, 1974 could have been signed as a single book for all I know.

And, I've never noticed it until right now with the books side by side, but the "A" in April is very different. One in cursive and one not. I think it was all new to him and he had yet to develop a consistent style.

[carlosdetweiller]

I have a 1978 (The Stand) signature with the loop. There seems to be a question about earlier signatures didn't have it:

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/668/medium/The_Stand_signed_1978.JPG

Mulleins

Ralph,
What do you think about the signature in Carrie that started today's discussion in post #8930?

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

IMO this is a great signature. I would love it in my collection. It matches EXACTLY a confirmed February 1974 signature.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Bob

I'm with RT on this one. Call me crazy, but that sure fits his old style of signing. I think it's legit. It would be nice to see a picture straight on and closer.

I'm looking through my older notes now because I seem to remember a Salem's Lot with a very similar signature. Hopefully I can find it.

Mulleins.

[carlosdetweiller]

IMO this is a great signature. I would love it in my collection. It matches EXACTLY a confirmed February 1974 signature.


Bob

I'm with RT on this one. Call me crazy, but that sure fits his old style of signing. I think it's legit. It would be nice to see a picture straight on and closer.

I'm looking through my older notes now because I seem to remember a Salem's Lot with a very similar signature. Hopefully I can find it.

Mulleins.

My first thought was that it was legit and I'm glad to see that you two agree. The thing that concerned me (as I mentioned earlier) was that it seemed a bit large compared to other early 1970's examples and it was flat signed rather than inscribed. It is still something of an anomaly for that era. Would love to see it in person.

[jonp]

There was a 'Salems Lot flatsigned on sale at Betts recently with just a signature. Unfortunately, the photo has gone.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

I would love to see it and study it in person.

I'm asking the seller for a straight on picture. I'm struggling to actually tell signature size from the picture. I wonder if seller would lay a ruler next to the signature.

Mulleins

[Room 217 Caretaker]

There was a 'Salems Lot flatsigned on sale at Betts recently with just a signature. Unfortunately, the photo has gone.

Awwwwwww....maybe that's where I saw it. Thanks!

[T-Dogz_AK47]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CARRIE-By-Stephen-King-First-Edition-First-Printing-Signed-1974-/161935169030?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276

Thoughts anyone??

sk

I DO NOT like that 'Stephen King' signature one bit. It's full of pen lifts and hesitations. To me, it screams fake! :nope:

It also looks like the seller has scrubbed out the previous owner's name on the endpapers with a scouring pad or industrial strength sandpaper! The end result looks absolutely shit!!! :doh:

The fact that the seller is charging $1,400 for this is a joke. :rolleyes:


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Right, where to begin....

There is hesitation and 'criminal tremor' on the 'S' as it loops down.

There is hesitation and a pen lift on the 'T' as it goes down to the start of the 'E'.

Different pressure has been used on the 'E', to the point that it looks as if it was slowly added to the signature afterwards.

There is hesitation and a pen lift at the top of the 'P' as it reaches the loop.

Too much pressure on the vertical line of the 'K' resulting in 'criminal tremor'.

Hesitation resulting in 'criminal tremor' and two different pressures used in the bottom diagonal part of the 'K'.

The 'G' looks forced and too much pressure used in the vertical line leading to the bottom loop.

There is hesitation and pen lift on the top loop of the 'G'.

Different pressure has been used on the bottom loop of the 'G', to the point that it looks as if it was slowly added to the signature afterwards.


My bullshit-o-meter is off the radar on this one.... :doh:

[jsmcmullen92]

Hey guys was just going through my shelves and remembered I had some questionable signatures that I would like your opinion on. I know 1 and 2 are fake but what do you think of the rest?

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/775/medium/image81.jpghttp://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/775/medium/image80.jpg

[idlewarnings]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CARRIE-By-Stephen-King-First-Edition-First-Printing-Signed-1974-/161935169030?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276

Thoughts anyone??

sk

I DO NOT like that 'Stephen King' signature one bit. It's full of pen lifts and hesitations. To me, it screams fake! :nope:

It also looks like the seller has scrubbed out the previous owner's name on the endpapers with a scouring pad or industrial strength sandpaper! The end result looks absolutely shit!!! :doh:

The fact that the seller is charging $1,400 for this is a joke. :rolleyes:


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Right, where to begin....

There is hesitation and 'criminal tremor' on the 'S' as it loops down.

There is hesitation and a pen lift on the 'T' as it goes down to the start of the 'E'.

Different pressure has been used on the 'E', to the point that it looks as if it was slowly added to the signature afterwards.

There is hesitation and a pen lift at the top of the 'P' as it reaches the loop.

Too much pressure on the vertical line of the 'K' resulting in 'criminal tremor'.

Hesitation resulting in 'criminal tremor' and two different pressures used in the bottom diagonal part of the 'K'.

The 'G' looks forced and too much pressure used in the vertical line leading to the bottom loop.

There is hesitation and pen lift on the top loop of the 'G'.

Different pressure has been used on the bottom loop of the 'G', to the point that it looks as if it was slowly added to the signature afterwards.


My bullshit-o-meter is off the radar on this one.... :doh:

Holding this signature next to the signature from Bob's photo dated April 16, I see a lot of similarities in the features. Could someone have traced a legitimate signature? I guess. I would have to see it in person to make the call.

[Fsmdr]

Hey guys was just going through my shelves and remembered I had some questionable signatures that I would like your opinion on. I know 1 and 2 are fake but what do you think of the rest?

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/775/medium/image81.jpghttp://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/775/medium/image80.jpg

All of them are fake.

[idlewarnings]

Hey guys was just going through my shelves and remembered I had some questionable signatures that I would like your opinion on. I know 1 and 2 are fake but what do you think of the rest?

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/775/medium/image81.jpghttp://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/775/medium/image80.jpg

Unfortunately, I think 3, 4 and 5 were done by the same person and are all phony. 6 is the only one I have any hope for. Curious to see what others think.

[Randall Flagg]

I believe the ebay flatsigned Carrie signature is legit.

[Fsmdr]

I believe the ebay flatsigned Carrie signature is legit.

I agree. Signature is consistant with the period. Back then his signature is a lot more deliberate and measured.

[jsmcmullen92]

I was thinking the samr thing. I assumed all were fake but didn't know. My hopes were around 5 and 6 and thats all. You wont hurt my feelings any, we were all amatures at one point lol

[Priest]

I think it was all new to him and he had yet to develop a consistent style.

That's a very valid point, especially as we have seen so many different version over the last posts out of this area (74/75) I still can't say that I don't have doubts in that one. It's a steal for 1400 if legit, but I would not wanna have it. When comparing to the two 74' carries , it just doesn't have that confidence in knowing how to write the own name as the two shown. Beside that I see most of the points T-Dogz mentioned above, even if not all.

Can be a bargain, but for me it's a coin flip

[peripheral]

I stand corrected if you've seen earlier authentic signatures which look like this. Earliest I've seen is a 1974 signature (somewhere on this forum, I think) , and The "G" is noticeably different - the "ball" on the "g" came later I think. If this is an earlier signature, the signer has tried to mimic his later style "G", IMO. I also don't like th "K".

Interesting discussion. I'm really on the fence with this one. I am having some doubts and I am starting to be concerned with the size of the signature. As to the "ball" of the "g" I think it goes back much further than we might think. But it seems to be intermittent until much later when it became constant. Here is a copy of MOTH presumably signed in 1970 where he sort of tries to make a ball.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/carlosdetweiller/mothsigs_zps1f4781e9.jpg

And then here are two copies of Carrie with signatures one day apart....one with a "ball" and one without.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/carlosdetweiller/16carrie1_zpseealzgpx.jpg

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/carlosdetweiller/16carrie2_zpsfmvy1vgl.jpg

I think there is enough doubt and possible red flags to stay away from this one but I am not 100% convinced it is fake.

Ok, this is a fascinating discussion. Looking at all these photos, my theory about the "G" is blown. It could be legit, I now have no idea.:beat:

[T-Dogz_AK47]

Holding this signature next to the signature from Bob's photo dated April 16, I see a lot of similarities in the features. Could someone have traced a legitimate signature? I guess. I would have to see it in person to make the call.


In Bob's photo dated April 16, you can see that the signature is fluid and the ink applied evenly. In the eBay flatsigned Carrie, the signature is neither fluid or even.

A legitimate signature is written in one fluid movement and it does not contain uneven pressure, hesitation, unwarranted pen lifts or the phenomena known as 'criminal tremor'.

The flatsigned Carrie contains all of these 'tells'. No fewer than 9 in fact.

[sharki69]

3 signed books from the same seller. Thoughts ?

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?ssPageName=STRK%3Anull%3AMESOI&_ssn=primusfan1&_sop=10

[carlosdetweiller]

3 signed books from the same seller. Thoughts ?

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?ssPageName=STRK%3Anull%3AMESOI&_ssn=primusfan1&_sop=10

What are your thoughts?

[Randall Flagg]

<----------------Wants Blaze to be legit, but I must rate it as neutral. Can not endorse, nor refute.

[sharki69]

3 signed books from the same seller. Thoughts ?

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?ssPageName=STRK%3Anull%3AMESOI&_ssn=primusfan1&_sop=10

What are your thoughts?

I'm far from being expert, but I would say that maybe The Talisman is legit. However, starting auction for REAL signed King at $0.99 no reserve looks suspicious to me

[carlosdetweiller]

3 signed books from the same seller. Thoughts ?

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?ssPageName=STRK%3Anull%3AMESOI&_ssn=primusfan1&_sop=10

What are your thoughts?

I'm far from being expert, but I would say that maybe The Talisman is legit. However, starting auction for REAL signed King at $0.99 no reserve looks suspicious to me

I think the images are all substandard and would like to see better, clearer ones. However, from what I can see I think they are all OK.

[AKC]

From my perspective, both King signatures are absolutely legit.

Can't speak for Collins...no experience/expertise with hers.

[redsoxfan565]

Blaze looks ok, but Collins is a definite forgery.

[Fsmdr]

3 signed books from the same seller. Thoughts ?

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?ssPageName=STRK%3Anull%3AMESOI&_ssn=primusfan1&_sop=10

What are your thoughts?



I'm far from being expert, but I would say that maybe The Talisman is legit. However, starting auction for REAL signed King at $0.99 no reserve looks suspicious to me

I think the images are all substandard and would like to see better, clearer ones. However, from what I can see I think they are all OK.

Just my own personal opinion, but I feel that I can also tell 100% more definitively when I see the signature in person. King likes to use a particular kind of pen (gel pen?) that emphasize pressure points in his signature. Harder to tell from a photo.

[sharki69]

Thank you all

[Br!an]

Interesting that he pulled the Collins book.

I wonder if he's reading this? :orely:

[racerx45]

3 signed books from the same seller. Thoughts ?

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?ssPageName=STRK%3Anull%3AMESOI&_ssn=primusfan1&_sop=10

What are your thoughts?

I'm far from being expert, but I would say that maybe The Talisman is legit. However, starting auction for REAL signed King at $0.99 no reserve looks suspicious to me

I don’t like any of them. On the Talisman my concerns are the ‘h’, ‘I’, and the ‘g’.

On the ‘h’ I can’t find a legit example like this one. The stroke coming off of the ’p’ staying to the left of the down stroke. It is a completely unnatural flow from the usual up stroke into a counterclockwise down stroke.

On the ‘I’ almost all of the confirmed signature have a dot not a dash.

On the ‘g’ I have not seen the stroke coming off of the ‘n’ going thru the top loop of the ‘g’ like that.

I am no expert so those are just my opinions

[tippy4]

3 signed books from the same seller. Thoughts ?

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?ssPageName=STRK%3Anull%3AMESOI&_ssn=primusfan1&_sop=10

What are your thoughts?

I'm far from being expert, but I would say that maybe The Talisman is legit. However, starting auction for REAL signed King at $0.99 no reserve looks suspicious to me

I think the images are all substandard and would like to see better, clearer ones. However, from what I can see I think they are all OK.

I believe them all to be legit...and the prices they fetched indicate that as well. I think the buyer on the Blaze got a pretty good deal......but it did not go cheap.

THIS (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-The-Cell-SIGNED-1st-/221931159965?nma=true&si=t1UuCgJ1KAVibQZCju3CL51j8cQ%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557) is a signed copy of Cell that the same seller sold...also legit IMO.

[firemonkey66]

Any thoughts on this signature? I think that it's good, but the slant of the signature is throwing me a bit. Thanks for any help!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NIGHTMARES-DREAMSCAPES-by-STEPHEN-KING-Signed-First-Edition-1st-Printing-1993-/281904318930?hash=item41a2ce89d2:g:HCMAAOSwL7VWkA-d

[OneFathom]

Any thoughts on this signature? I think that it's good, but the slant of the signature is throwing me a bit. Thanks for any help!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NIGHTMARES-DREAMSCAPES-by-STEPHEN-KING-Signed-First-Edition-1st-Printing-1993-/281904318930?hash=item41a2ce89d2:g:HCMAAOSwL7VWkA-d

Looks fantastic. Legitimate King signature right there.

[carlosdetweiller]

Agree. It is a nice example.

[Dan]

I'm no expert, but is someone just trying to cash in on the low supply here?

http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/181985704012

[Br!an]

I'm no expert, but is someone just trying to cash in on the low supply here?

http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/181985704012

Looks bad to me.

[T-Dogz_AK47]

I'm no expert, but is someone just trying to cash in on the low supply here?

http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/181985704012

Looks bad to me.

Not only does the signature look bad, it should also be noted that the seller has already received 3 lots of negative feedback on eBay for selling FAKE autographs.... :doh:

http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=alltimegreatauthentics&myworld=true&items=25&iid=-1&de=off&which=negative&interval=365 (http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=alltimegreatauthentics&myworld=true&items=25&iid=-1&de=off&which=negative&interval=365)

So yeah, that's one seller to avoid for sure! thumbsdownsmall

[ke7285]

I'm no expert, but is someone just trying to cash in on the low supply here?

http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/181985704012

This is the same seller David from Bett's said he bought one from. Intriguing king pg749 post 18724, any difference between the two.

[webstar1000]

I'm sceptical on this sig.... Don't like it.

[idlewarnings]

I think it's rushed and ugly but authentic.

[at_one]

Even if it is legit, would you really want a sig that ugly?

[tippy4]

I think it's rushed and ugly but authentic.


Agreed.

[frik]

Even if it is legit, would you really want a sig that ugly?

I would!

sk

[T-Dogz_AK47]

Even if it is legit, would you really want a sig that ugly?

More to the point, would you want to take the risk by buying it from a seller who has already received 3 lots of negative feedback on eBay, for selling fake autographs?

For me, the issue of whether that signature is ugly or not becomes irrelevant. I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole!

[jhanic]

Even if it is legit, would you really want a sig that ugly?

More to the point, would you want to take the risk by buying it from a seller who has already received 3 lots of negative feedback on eBay, for selling fake autographs?

For me, the issue of whether that signature is ugly or not becomes irrelevant. I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole!

Agreed. I'd really like to have a signed Bazaar of Bad Dreams, but I do have my limitations. For me, the "red flag" was the COA.

John

[tippy4]

Even if it is legit, would you really want a sig that ugly?

More to the point, would you want to take the risk by buying it from a seller who has already received 3 lots of negative feedback on eBay, for selling fake autographs?

For me, the issue of whether that signature is ugly or not becomes irrelevant. I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole!

But they have received 934 positives.

Look....you cannot make all the people happy all of the time.....this seller has done a pretty good job in my opinion....in fact a great one.

[Randall Flagg]

With 3,700 or more transactions, a few negatives are bound to happen. 99.6% is 4 complaints per 1,000 transactions.

[alltimegreatauthentics]

Hello all,

I'm the seller of this book, I was given a heads up about this thread today, and felt the need to join and defend myself and our reputation.

This signature is 100% authentic, just as the one I sold another member was last week. With the help of my family, we obtained four Stephen King signatures on December 27th, 2015. He was standing up and it was dark outside, which I'm sure partially explains the lesser quality signature than members receive at his book signing events. My brother and I obtain autographs part time to pay for school, and while that business is frowned upon here, sometimes rightfully so, these books are legit.

My feedback speaks for itself, although I am still working with eBay to admonish the negative comments claiming autographs we sold were counterfeit. Every signature we have listed we witnessed being signed, so even if you're not interested in purchasing, please consider that before reporting the King signatures I've obtained to eBay.

Thanks,

Matt

[jhanic]

Hello all,

I'm the seller of this book, I was given a heads up about this thread today, and felt the need to join and defend myself and our reputation.

This signature is 100% authentic, just as the one I sold another member was last week. With the help of my family, we obtained four Stephen King signatures on December 27th, 2015. He was standing up and it was dark outside, which I'm sure partially explains the lesser quality signature than members receive at his book signing events. My brother and I obtain autographs part time to pay for school, and while that business is frowned upon here, sometimes rightfully so, these books are legit.

My feedback speaks for itself, although I am still working with eBay to admonish the negative comments claiming autographs we sold were counterfeit. Every signature we have listed we witnessed being signed, so even if you're not interested in purchasing, please consider that before reporting the King signatures I've obtained to eBay.

Thanks,

Matt

Welcome, Matt. Just who is producing your COAs and what guarantees do you provide?

John

[alltimegreatauthentics]

Welcome, Matt. Just who is producing your COAs and what guarantees do you provide?

John

We provide our own COA, which I acknowledge is only worth the reputation of our business. On top of that, we guarantee it will pass any third party authentication company such as PSA or JSA. I am confident they would be able to tell our SK signatures are authentic, but if they weren't sure, we offer a full refund.

We are planning on having many items in our inventory authenticated by PSA in the coming year, but I can't give an exact timetable for when that will happen.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Hello all,

I'm the seller of this book, I was given a heads up about this thread today, and felt the need to join and defend myself and our reputation.

This signature is 100% authentic, just as the one I sold another member was last week. With the help of my family, we obtained four Stephen King signatures on December 27th, 2015. He was standing up and it was dark outside, which I'm sure partially explains the lesser quality signature than members receive at his book signing events. My brother and I obtain autographs part time to pay for school, and while that business is frowned upon here, sometimes rightfully so, these books are legit.

My feedback speaks for itself, although I am still working with eBay to admonish the negative comments claiming autographs we sold were counterfeit. Every signature we have listed we witnessed being signed, so even if you're not interested in purchasing, please consider that before reporting the King signatures I've obtained to eBay.

Thanks,

Matt

Hi Matt,
Just because someone says something, it doesn't mean it's true. A COA is a waste of time unless it is linked to a video clip or unrefutable evidence of the actual item. Word-of-mouth is not an acceptable form of verification in the world of collecting.
The above applies to every type of collecting whether its antiques, artwork or collectables.

[idlewarnings]

Welcome, Matt. Just who is producing your COAs and what guarantees do you provide?

John

We provide our own COA, which I acknowledge is only worth the reputation of our business. On top of that, we guarantee it will pass any third party authentication company such as PSA or JSA. I am confident they would be able to tell our SK signatures are authentic, but if they weren't sure, we offer a full refund.

We are planning on having many items in our inventory authenticated by PSA in the coming year, but I can't give an exact timetable for when that will happen.

I've seen more garbage Stephen King signatures on eBay with PSA stickers than legitimate ones. In my opinion, a PSA sticker is more of a guarantee of fraud than authenticity. I wouldn't waste your money.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

If someone told me, in order for my collection to be legit I had to get JSA or PSA certifications, I would give my $250,000 valued art and book collection away. I've seen more fraud committed by JSA and PSA than I have seen forged signatures on Abe, Ebay, and Craig's List combined.

I respect your business, and have purchased from repuitable people like yourself, so I am in no way saying the signatures are forged, in fact, after looking at your current King offerings, they are legit. What I'm saying, don't put the reputation of your families business on JSA or PSA because serious collectors laugh eveytime it's mentioned.

With all that said Matt, welcome to our site. Please share with us your stories of how the signatures come about. Sometimes the stories of how obtained are nicer than the signature itself.

Ralph Mulleins
Virginia

[jhanic]

Matt, both those services put a sticker on the title page of the book. With most serious collectors, this defaces the book, seriously devaluing the volume.

John

[Fsmdr]

Matt, both those services put a sticker on the title page of the book. With most serious collectors, this defaces the book, seriously devaluing the volume.

John

I agree. I would never buy a book however desirable with such a sticker inside.

[Br!an]

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[Randall Flagg]

Matt, both those services put a sticker on the title page of the book. With most serious collectors, this defaces the book, seriously devaluing the volume.

John

I agree. I would never buy a book however desirable with such a sticker inside.
I third that. I don't want any sticker in or on a book.

[webstar1000]

Who would want that sticker on? Surely nobody would.... I also would like to know how they value the books they get signed.

[Randall Flagg]

Value would likely be what the market will bear.