The eBay BS Game: Questionable items, Stephen King signatures, sellers

[Randall Flagg]

Buyer is incorrect in his listing as an "Easton Press" slipcase.
Possibly the ugliest undamaged slipcase I have ever seen:
Stephen King Easton Press The Dead Zone Slipcase Includes Trade Edition (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-Easton-Press-The-Dead-Zone-Slipcase-Includes-Trade-Edition-/221619992113?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item339994b631)

[Room 217 Caretaker]

This guy is back again selling forged Revivals

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-Signed-Autographed-Revival-/321601491013?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item4ae0f15045

[Merlin1958]

This guy is back again selling forged Revivals

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-Signed-Autographed-Revival-/321601491013?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item4ae0f15045


That's bad!!! Owe my eyes!! LOL

[Randall Flagg]

I reported it.

[mkberger]

How about this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-Revival-Signed-in-NYC-/161501788351?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item259a41b8bf

[Br!an]

I reported it.

I did too, for what it's worth.

[Randall Flagg]

Bad:
STEPHEN KING SIGNED AUTOGRAPH IT HARDCOVER WITH PROOF (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-AUTOGRAPH-IT-HARDCOVER-WITH-PROOF-/161501985818?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item259a44bc1a)

STEPHEN KING SIGNED AUTOGRAPH THE STAND HARDCOVER WITH PROOF (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-AUTOGRAPH-THE-STAND-HARDCOVER-WITH-PROOF-/161501983120?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item259a44b190)

[Randall Flagg]

One of the odder King sigs from the Revival tour:
STEPHEN KING SIGNED REVIVAL HARDCOVER BOOK 1/1 WITH 8 PHOTOS, WRISTBAND & FLYERS (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-REVIVAL-HARDCOVER-BOOK-1-1-WITH-8-PHOTOS-WRISTBAND-FLYERS-/131365505674?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e95fe8a8a)

[Room 217 Caretaker]

One of the odder King sigs from the Revival tour:
STEPHEN KING SIGNED REVIVAL HARDCOVER BOOK 1/1 WITH 8 PHOTOS, WRISTBAND & FLYERS (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-REVIVAL-HARDCOVER-BOOK-1-1-WITH-8-PHOTOS-WRISTBAND-FLYERS-/131365505674?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e95fe8a8a)

wow....that signature is....well.....is....well......is........fugly, not to put too fine of a point on it.

Mulleins

[divemaster]

It is fugly. But is it a forgery? I'm not sure and leaning not. Mainly because King's recent authentic signatures are quite bad and do seem to vary from signing to signing on how rushed and sloppy they look.

One of the reasons I don't collect anything but S'L'd releases.

[stkmw02]

Here's why I would trust it... it seems like the seller may be a Barnes & Noble employee. They offer a lot of author signed books with photos from the events and claim to be "the only one" with certain flyers and promotional materials. In my experience, that usually means they were involved in the event somehow. So, although it is a sad example of King's more recent fugly signatures, I'd say it is legit.

[jhanic]

Here's why I would trust it... it seems like the seller may be a Barnes & Noble employee. They offer a lot of author signed books with photos from the events and claim to be "the only one" with certain flyers and promotional materials. In my experience, that usually means they were involved in the event somehow. So, although it is a sad example of King's more recent fugly signatures, I'd say it is legit.

I agree. Ugly, but probably legit.

John

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

If he had signed my book with that signature, I would have asked him to do it again!

[AKC]

Weird auction here.....IT Gift Edition.....or is it?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/291313863101?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

As you can see by the pic, it is the S/L DJ but when I asked the seller if it was signed she said no. Then thinking she was confused, I asked her if the slipcase was black or brown. She said Brown.

So, what you have here is a Gift Edition of IT with the S/L DJ version for good measure. I guess.

Must admit, I was excited at the price for a brief second when I saw the pic.

[Br!an]

Weird auction here.....IT Gift Edition.....or is it?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/291313863101?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

As you can see by the pic, it is the S/L DJ but when I asked the seller if it was signed she said no. Then thinking she was confused, I asked her if the slipcase was black or brown. She said Brown.

So, what you have here is a Gift Edition of IT with the S/L DJ version for good measure. I guess.

Must admit, I was excited at the price for a brief second when I saw the pic.

I like this bit: "Had my name on the inside of the hard cover but it whited out.

[stroppygoblin]

Maybe it was a S/L but King's sig also got "whited out" .... :evil:

[Randall Flagg]

Unimpressive:
STEPHEN KING AUTOGRAPHED NOVEL "IT" 1ST EDITION COLLECTIBLE HARDCOVER (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-AUTOGRAPHED-NOVEL-IT-1ST-EDITION-COLLECTIBLE-HARDCOVER-/111539021547?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item19f83e66eb)

[Randall Flagg]

No bueno:
Lisey's Story by Stephen King (First Ed/First Print) Signed hardcover 2006 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Liseys-Story-by-Stephen-King-First-Ed-First-Print-Signed-hardcover-2006-/131371706376?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item1e965d2808)



NEEDFUL THINGS STEPHEN KING SIGNED BY AUTHOR 1st Ed 1st Print 1991 VIKING HC/DJ (http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEEDFUL-THINGS-STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-BY-AUTHOR-1st-Ed-1st-Print-1991-VIKING-HC-DJ-/191439949459?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item2c92b5ce93)

MISERY by STEPHEN KING SIGNED BY AUTHOR 1st Edition 1st Print 1987 VIKING HC (http://www.ebay.com/itm/MISERY-by-STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-BY-AUTHOR-1st-Edition-1st-Print-1987-VIKING-HC-/201235724247?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item2eda9577d7)

[sharki69]

Real ?

http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo111/sharki69/AF52EF79-C0BD-44AC-AE32-E9898253D283.png (http://s367.photobucket.com/user/sharki69/media/AF52EF79-C0BD-44AC-AE32-E9898253D283.png.html)

[jhanic]

Real ?

http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo111/sharki69/AF52EF79-C0BD-44AC-AE32-E9898253D283.png (http://s367.photobucket.com/user/sharki69/media/AF52EF79-C0BD-44AC-AE32-E9898253D283.png.html)

Probably okay.

John

[AKC]

yep

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Agree with the above....it's real.

Mulleins

[Randall Flagg]

I recommend avoiding this one:
"CELL" STEPHEN KING SIGNED hard copy book-(2006) 1st/1st (http://www.ebay.com/itm/CELL-STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-hard-copy-book-2006-1st-1st-/271704094912?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item3f42d378c0)

[stroppygoblin]

Real ?

http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo111/sharki69/AF52EF79-C0BD-44AC-AE32-E9898253D283.png (http://s367.photobucket.com/user/sharki69/media/AF52EF79-C0BD-44AC-AE32-E9898253D283.png.html)

just self promoting, but I have a similar book up on eBay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111521963561) - Sig is almost identical. I can do a better price then the eBay one for members - PM me if interested

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/jQkAAOSwAL9UbKmC/$_57.JPG

[Lot guy]

Hi all,
Thoughts on early King signature?
http://ebay.to/1wkxWr3

[goheat]

Hi all,
Thoughts on early King signature?
http://ebay.to/1wkxWr3

Looks terrible to me. Look at all the seller's recent sold SK items under feedback and they all look shaky (and shady). Even signatures on TWTTK he sold look like this 'old style' signature. Sad...

[carlosdetweiller]

Agree that it is a forgery.

[Br!an]

I think I might send eBay formal legal notice that it is knowingly hosting forgeries.

Either that or I might "buy" something from him so that I can give negative feedback.

[Lot guy]

Yeah my Wife purchased it for me & when she showed me the page I thought shit! I wanted to make sure before telling her as she was trying to do a nice thing for me. I've mentioned to her that Betts is the best for buying Flatsigned books as a "surprise" as she's not familiar with the collecting world.
Thanks all!

[goheat]

Yeah my Wife purchased it for me & when she showed me the page I thought shit! I wanted to make sure before telling her as she was trying to do a nice thing for me. I've mentioned to her that Betts is the best for buying Flatsigned books as a "surprise" as she's not familiar with the collecting world.
Thanks all!

Hey, at least your wife was thoughtful enough to buy you a SK "signed" book! :wink:

[bdwyer19]

Yeah my Wife purchased it for me & when she showed me the page I thought shit! I wanted to make sure before telling her as she was trying to do a nice thing for me. I've mentioned to her that Betts is the best for buying Flatsigned books as a "surprise" as she's not familiar with the collecting world.
Thanks all!

Hey, at least your wife was thoughtful enough to buy you a SK "signed" book! :wink:

Isn't that the truth!! My wife wouldn't know where to begin!

[Randall Flagg]

Seller has several King items up, and all are terrible:
Stephen King Signed Autographed Dolores Claiborne (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-Signed-Autographed-Dolores-Claiborne-/321616192321?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item4ae1d1a341)

[burial]

Seller has several King items up, and all are terrible:
Stephen King Signed Autographed Dolores Claiborne (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-Signed-Autographed-Dolores-Claiborne-/321616192321?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item4ae1d1a341)

you think this is terrible?
look at this:

Stephen King - photo with signature (http://allegro.pl/stephen-king-zdjecie-z-autografem-i4891847649.html)

[2929]

Picked up locally today. Would welcome opinions.
Thanks.

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m292/2929redux/King--COLORADO-KID-Signature-Small_zpse31df54b.jpg

[jhanic]

Looks okay to me.

John

[jonp]

Looks fairly typical of his modern signature. IMHO it looks good.

[sgc1999]

looks good but how about this one?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-signed-Wind-Through-the-Keyhole-autograph-Hardcover-Dark-Tower-/151513651161?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item2346ead7d9

[jhanic]

looks good but how about this one?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-signed-Wind-Through-the-Keyhole-autograph-Hardcover-Dark-Tower-/151513651161?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item2346ead7d9

Terrible fake.

John

[Randall Flagg]

Worthless.

[Dan]

Is this ok? Good price?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1ST-EDITION-STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-NEW-DOCTOR-SLEEP-NOVEL-PROOF-PSA-DNA-2-LEFT-/301439575276?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item462f32e4ec

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Is this ok? Good price?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1ST-EDITION-STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-NEW-DOCTOR-SLEEP-NOVEL-PROOF-PSA-DNA-2-LEFT-/301439575276?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item462f32e4ec

What's interesting about this seller, if I'm calculating the numbers right, he has sold over 8 signed Dr. Sleeps in the past. Not saying it's not possible to have that many, but wow.

Mulleins

[Randall Flagg]

Is this ok? Good price?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1ST-EDITION-STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-NEW-DOCTOR-SLEEP-NOVEL-PROOF-PSA-DNA-2-LEFT-/301439575276?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item462f32e4ec
It looks good to me.

[Dan]

Thanks, I bought one. I have an empty slipcase waiting for a signed copy and had never got around to buying one.

[Cook]

Is this ok? Good price?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1ST-EDITION-STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-NEW-DOCTOR-SLEEP-NOVEL-PROOF-PSA-DNA-2-LEFT-/301439575276?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item462f32e4ec


Look at all his other signatures for sale.... nope, nada. I don't care for a single signature this guy has. (that's my gut level feeling.)
I'll bet a bunch the book you receive doesn't look like whats posted.

[Dan]

Is this ok? Good price?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1ST-EDITION-STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-NEW-DOCTOR-SLEEP-NOVEL-PROOF-PSA-DNA-2-LEFT-/301439575276?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item462f32e4ec


Look at all his other signatures for sale.... nope, nada. I don't care for a single signature this guy has. (that's my gut level feeling.)
I'll bet a bunch the book you receive doesn't look like whats posted.

Thanks for the warning. I will post when I get it for opinions. If bad, I will return it.

[frik]

Is this ok? Good price?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1ST-EDITION-STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-NEW-DOCTOR-SLEEP-NOVEL-PROOF-PSA-DNA-2-LEFT-/301439575276?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item462f32e4ec
It looks good to me.

And to me.

sk

[goheat]

Is this ok? Good price?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1ST-EDITION-STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-NEW-DOCTOR-SLEEP-NOVEL-PROOF-PSA-DNA-2-LEFT-/301439575276?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item462f32e4ec


Look at all his other signatures for sale.... nope, nada. I don't care for a single signature this guy has. (that's my gut level feeling.)
I'll bet a bunch the book you receive doesn't look like whats posted.

Thanks for the warning. I will post when I get it for opinions. If bad, I will return it.

The seller's location is in Sarasota where the signing took place, so that does increase the possibility he/she was able to get multiple signed copies...

[Randall Flagg]

I still say the sig in the picture is legit.

[Cook]

I still say the sig in the picture is legit.

I'm not really doubting the "as shown" signature.
The problem is he's sold 6+ ? with the same picture, and some for less than scalpers were offering to purchase at the events.

[Br!an]

The seller assures us multiple times that we can bid with confidence!

He also says that he will send a book with a different signature.

:orely:

[goheat]

The seller assures us multiple times that we can bid with confidence!

He also says that he will send a book with a different signature.

:orely:

Yeah, good point. It will be interesting to see what the actual signature looks like once Dan gets it. :confused:

[Dan]

Is this ok? Good price?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1ST-EDITION-STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-NEW-DOCTOR-SLEEP-NOVEL-PROOF-PSA-DNA-2-LEFT-/301439575276?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item462f32e4ec
It looks good to me.

Here is the book I received. It looks similar to others I have, but I will ask the experts. It came with a line ticket for the Sarasota signing event.

http://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/q542/DanielLRoth/f0730875a13ed1d1a4ee70c7b005cae6.jpg

[Lot guy]

Looks very similar to the signatures from that event. Out of the 4 copies I had signed at the same event they were all different. Some quite a bit.

[Randall Flagg]

Not the prettiest of signatures, but legitimate. Don't fret about it. All is well.

[jhanic]

I think it's okay also.

John

[Br!an]

I was at the signing and it looks right.

[Randall Flagg]

Humerous:
Insomnia SIGNED by Stephen King (1994, 1st Edition Hardcover) (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Insomnia-SIGNED-by-Stephen-King-1994-1st-Edition-Hardcover-/231427792680?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item35e22bdf28)

[goheat]

Not an Ebay auction, but a potential purchase. Does this signature look legitimate?
http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/zpfile002.jpg
http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/zpfile001.jpg

[carlosdetweiller]

No.

[bdwyer19]

That's an ugly looking fake.

[zelig]

Yeah, I'm certainly no signature expert but looking at that one I can tell right off that it's no good.

[AKC]

Real, real bad....

[goheat]

That's what I thought too, but it's good to have access to you all for confirmation! :wink:

[jhanic]

Bad.

John

[Randall Flagg]

Run away from that one.

[goheat]

Run away from that one.

Oh, I did! It was an AbeBooks item, and I'm surprised the seller sent pictures, when they look like that. Of course, that's probably why it was $75.00! Thanks again.

[bdwyer19]

Run away from that one.

Oh, I did! It was an AbeBooks item, and I'm surprised the seller sent pictures, when they look like that. Of course, that's probably why it was $75.00! Thanks again.

You never really know what you're going to get with AbeBook sellers. It can be sellers with fakes for $75, or others trying to sell average looking books for hundreds of dollars over perceived value, and then get incredibly defensive if you try to tell them that they're charging way too much - like I just dealt with yesterday. Of course, there are plenty of good sellers out there too... just a matter of doing your homework.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Keep in mind, AbeBooks harbors the sellers that's been run off Ebay for selling fakes. As said above, do your homework, ask questions, get pictures, share pictures. When in doubt, don't pull your wallet out.

Mulleins

[goheat]

Keep in mind, AbeBooks harbors the sellers that's been run off Ebay for selling fakes. As said above, do your homework, ask questions, get pictures, share pictures. When in doubt, don't pull your wallet out.

Mulleins
True. I got the legit copy of The Ideal Genuine Man signed by King (and Richard Bachman!) and Don Robertson for $100.00 from an AbeBooks seller last week, and all the photos were available initially, so at least I knew that seller was good. I again appreciate you and all the members here who help in dealing with 'questionable' offerings!

[goheat]

This one (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Signed-HEARTS-IN-ATLANTIS-STEPHEN-KING-1999-1ST-1ST-Hardcover-/131385346985?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item1e972d4ba9) smells of fish. In fact, this seems like a resell of one of rober-alli's frauds. :nope:

[bdwyer19]

Yeah, he has a few King's up for sale. No good!

[jhanic]

Terrible!

John

[Room 217 Caretaker]

This one (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Signed-HEARTS-IN-ATLANTIS-STEPHEN-KING-1999-1ST-1ST-Hardcover-/131385346985?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item1e972d4ba9) smells of fish. In fact, this seems like a resell of one of rober-alli's frauds. :nope:

Yep, as well as his other Kings are forged. Pure EBay Scum.

Mulleins

[jsmcmullen92]

This one (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Signed-HEARTS-IN-ATLANTIS-STEPHEN-KING-1999-1ST-1ST-Hardcover-/131385346985?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item1e972d4ba9) smells of fish. In fact, this seems like a resell of one of rober-alli's frauds. :nope:

Yep, as well as his other Kings are forged. Pure EBay Scum.

Mulleins

Yeah i made the mistake of buying one of his early on because I wasn't paying attention and the image was a little blurry. I guess i got a little excited and my thumbs clicked the buy button. Luckily I only spent $50.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

This one (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Signed-HEARTS-IN-ATLANTIS-STEPHEN-KING-1999-1ST-1ST-Hardcover-/131385346985?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item1e972d4ba9) smells of fish. In fact, this seems like a resell of one of rober-alli's frauds. :nope:

Yep, as well as his other Kings are forged. Pure EBay Scum.

Mulleins

Yeah i made the mistake of buying one of his early on because I wasn't paying attention and the image was a little blurry. I guess i got a little excited and my thumbs clicked the buy button. Luckily I only spent $50.

$50 well spent, in my opinion. You are wiser because of it.

Mulleins

[bdwyer19]

Thoughts on this??

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=181625386981

[jonp]

IMHO it looks OK to me

[Randall Flagg]

Fine.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

It's good.

Mulleins

[bdwyer19]

Thanks!

[jsmcmullen92]

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=391012087468&alt=web
Thoughts? Look legit?

[jhanic]

I don't like the "King" for some reason. Also, King almost always signs on the title page.

John

[Randall Flagg]

I wouldn't want it.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

I don't like anything that person is selling. Not one thing feels right about the dealings.

Mulleins

[Br!an]

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=391012087468&alt=web
Thoughts? Look legit?

Same thought as I had when I saw it on the 'Wanted' thread. BTW, was the negative consensus in the other thread insufficient?

It's crap. Everything he sells is crap.

[Br!an]

The seller used to be known as "missysbuddy".

Some of you might remember the crap he/she used to/is still sell(ing).

http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/search.php?searchid=2485797

[bdwyer19]

The seller used to be known as "missysbuddy".

Some of you might remember the crap he/she used to/is still sell(ing).

http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/search.php?searchid=2485797

Yep... If I remember right, that seller always said they got authentic signatures from Half Price Books.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

This is the fourth or fifth copy this seller has sold. I'm really surprised Kings camp isn't going after this guy. Just make copies and sells them:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/rarest-stephen-king-story-in-existence-The-star-invaders-rare-1st-limited-/331428395829?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item4d2aabfb35

Form your own opinion and share; Is it OK to make copies and sell?

Mulleins

[Br!an]

This is the fourth or fifth copy this seller has sold. I'm really surprised Kings camp isn't going after this guy. Just make copies and sells them:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/rarest-stephen-king-story-in-existence-The-star-invaders-rare-1st-limited-/331428395829?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item4d2aabfb35

Form your own opinion and share; Is it OK to make copies and sell?

Mulleins

He has sold six. I reported him.

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/Copyright1.jpg

[Room 217 Caretaker]

I don't mind reporting also, but to me, Ebay is just an avenue/tool for selling. It really should be Kings group going after him.

Agree? Disagree?

Mulleins

[goheat]

This doesn't look right to me: Signed copy of The Stand (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-DATED-FIRST-EDITION-THE-STAND-T39-on-p-823-True-1st-/221646482339?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item339b28eba3)

[jhanic]

This doesn't look right to me: Signed copy of The Stand (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-DATED-FIRST-EDITION-THE-STAND-T39-on-p-823-True-1st-/221646482339?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item339b28eba3)

A terrible fake.

John

[Merlin1958]

I don't mind reporting also, but to me, Ebay is just an avenue/tool for selling. It really should be Kings group going after him.

Agree? Disagree?

Mulleins

You're right of course, but ebay does lend a feeling of security to its site and should therefore thoroughly vett it's sellers and buyers. They are providing the venue under the guise of a safe and secure site. Just a thought.

[Br!an]

I don't mind reporting also, but to me, Ebay is just an avenue/tool for selling. It really should be Kings group going after him.

Agree? Disagree?

Mulleins

I do agree that the copyright issue is ultimately up to them.

Being that I am a buyer and seller on eBay, improving that experience is also up to me.

[divemaster]

We could buy one copy and distribute to a hundred folks on this site to all put up on eBay for $1. Flood the market with 100s of worthless xeroxs. Doesn't solve the copyright infringement issue, but would stop hucksters from profiting off someone else's work.

[Frankie]

This doesn't look right to me: Signed copy of The Stand (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-DATED-FIRST-EDITION-THE-STAND-T39-on-p-823-True-1st-/221646482339?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item339b28eba3)

A terrible fake.

John

Saw that yesterday and even though I don't pay that much attention to sigs thought it was one of the worst fakes I've ever seen. And now it has a bid on it.

[bdwyer19]

This doesn't look right to me: Signed copy of The Stand (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-DATED-FIRST-EDITION-THE-STAND-T39-on-p-823-True-1st-/221646482339?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item339b28eba3)

A terrible fake.

John

Saw that yesterday and even though I don't pay that much attention to sigs thought it was one of the worst fakes I've ever seen. And now it has a bid on it.

I think his sister Steph signed it.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

This doesn't look right to me: Signed copy of The Stand (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-DATED-FIRST-EDITION-THE-STAND-T39-on-p-823-True-1st-/221646482339?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item339b28eba3)

A terrible fake.

John

Saw that yesterday and even though I don't pay that much attention to sigs thought it was one of the worst fakes I've ever seen. And now it has a bid on it.

I think his sister Steph signed it.

I'm leaning more towards being signed by the House Keeper.

[goheat]

This doesn't look right to me: Signed copy of The Stand (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-DATED-FIRST-EDITION-THE-STAND-T39-on-p-823-True-1st-/221646482339?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item339b28eba3)

A terrible fake.

John

Saw that yesterday and even though I don't pay that much attention to sigs thought it was one of the worst fakes I've ever seen. And now it has a bid on it.

I think his sister Steph signed it.

I'm leaning more towards being signed by the House Keeper.

And they sullied a true first edition! :arg:

[Br!an]

And they sullied a true first edition! :arg:

That's what I was thinking!

[goheat]

Hmm, what do you think of this signature?

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/0026.jpg

[carlosdetweiller]

I don't like it at all.

[jhanic]

Bad.

John

[goheat]

Thanks, guys, that's what I thought. The crook in the loop kind of gives it away, huh?

[neo_trinity]

Hello all,

A bit of information on this book. This is a First Edition Gunslinger with a near fine dust jacket, clean boards and a tight spine. It is a very good example of this book, with one exception. It was purchased by a friend of mine in Japan, in late 2003, from Tim Miller of Flatsigned.com I was not aware of her decision to purchase this or I would have strongly advised her against it. I am not sure if Tim is a member of this board, but he is scum, and should be in jail. I am only glad that my friend did not live long enough to know that there are unscrupulous sellers out there, or it would have broken her heart. Her collection notes were very detailed, and in the comment line for this item she wrote that the original website picture was different from the current copy. All attempts to return were unanswered.

I am 100% positive that the signature is fake, as I have examined it closely with a 7x magnifier to spot at least 12 hesitations that Stephen's signature/writing does not contain. You are all welcome to voice your opinions, but that is not why I am showing you this today. As the book has been left to me, there is no way I would include this in my collection, nor would I ever try to sell it as is with the indication that I am not sure about the signature. Everything in my collection is 100% authentic. Tim's reputation all but confirms that he peddles in garbage, and is a bottom dweller.

That being said, the book is rare and as it is 1 of 10,000, it should have a better fate than at the back of my fireplace. I would like your opinions on what you would do, if the situation was reversed. Would you cover it with a book plate? Cross out the inscription with a marker? Remarque the entire page to erase the offending words? Acetone does not work as it is over 10 years old and was a roller-ball. The ink is permanent. If this was a Revival, or something with a 1,000,000 print run, I wouldn't be having this dilemma. That would be kindling during this cold winter now. The Gunslinger is one of my favorite stories and I love Michael's art. I just can't do that.

That is what I had to say. Any comments, opinions, or matches would be appreciated.

Happy New Year everyone.
Take care.
Gerald

http://geraldwinters.com/king/gunslinger_fake.jpg

[jhanic]

You bring up an interesting question. Actually, the book is made virtually worthless because of the phony signature (and it's not a very good fake, either). As you said, there is no way to erase it--it will always be there. A shame, but it would serve only as a reading copy to me.

John

[Merlin1958]

That is indeed a sad story. I share your reluctance, but in reality there is nothing to be done except, to keep it as a constant reminder to all. God Damn shame!!!

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Yep, 100% forged. But you knew that.

I wonder (if you have a weak stomach, don't read this) what if you place a strip of packing tape over inscription and signature, let sit for a few minutes, slowly pull the tape off. Would the signature come off with a thin layer of the paper?

Mulleins

[Br!an]

I like the remarque idea.

If you can get Micheal to do it for you.

[Papaseraphim]

Good Idea. Remarqued by Micheal Whelan and have it auctioned for Haven Foundation.

What do you think Bill?


I like the remarque idea.

If you can get Micheal to do it for you.

[neo_trinity]

I actually wrote to Michael already, as I have purchased art from him in the past. I told him I would donate it to a charity auction, but I never heard back from him or Audrey. I hope it's just the holidays, and maybe he will get back to me in the New Year. If he would oblige me, I would be more than happy to donate it.

PS: Mulleins, tape would not work, nor would 220 grade sand paper, nor a diamond polisher. Roller-ball ink is not raised so there is no 'edge' to erase, sort of speak. It 'bleeds' onto the surface, like a fountain pen. If it was sharpie, or a biro, that would be a different story. I have tried all different attempts to erase the filth.

[mcdonaldj]

That is a sad thing - I recently saw a 1/1 Salem's Lot on ebay with a fake signature as well. Terrible that they ruin scarce books that way. Perhaps David @ Betts can help - he and Mr. Whelan converse frequently. Who knows if a cover-up remarque would even be possible.

[zelig]

I think if there's a creative way to salvage the book, that would be best. As you say, being a Gunslinger, the book shouldn't suffer because of the forgery. If there's a way to effectively mask or hide the writing under a Remarque, perhaps that's the best solution. I'd prefer that over a bookplate.

[neo_trinity]

I agree that a remarque is the only way to salvage this. It would be possible to cover it up if you utilize both sides of the pages (like "The Slow Mutants"). I would prefer that Michael did the remarque because he did the illustrations inside. I could ask other King artists would they help out, as I am sure they would, but because they are not associated with this edition, it would not be as meaningful. A book plate is of no use either as you say, because you are only covering something that is obviously underneath. I am going back to L.A. in the new year and I will be speaking with a tattoo artist friend of mine and see if she has any ideas or equipment that could help me.

[zelig]

I agree that it would be best if Michael did the Remarque for the reasons stated. Just a matter of getting him on board which may be challenging. I don't know. Keep us posted on new developments.

[neo_trinity]

If I hear from Michael, I will let you know. Either way, it won't be destroyed, but it can never be offered for sale as is. I would never have my name associated with a fake. I will figure something out.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

The only way to salvage this book is to get Stephen King to write below it:

"The above signature is a fake. This one is real." "Stephen King".

I bet he would do it at the correct event.

[Ben Staad]

Very good idea.


The only way to salvage this book is to get Stephen King to write below it:

"The above signature is a fake. This one is real." "Stephen King".

I bet he would do it at the correct event.

[Randall Flagg]

Easiest solution is a King signed bookplate. A professional bookbinder could remove the page. The same page from a damaged Gunslinger could be removed and inserted into your nice copy.

[Roseannebarr]

Hello all,

A bit of information on this book. This is a First Edition Gunslinger with a near fine dust jacket, clean boards and a tight spine. It is a very good example of this book, with one exception. It was purchased by a friend of mine in Japan, in late 2003, from Tim Miller of Flatsigned.com I was not aware of her decision to purchase this or I would have strongly advised her against it. I am not sure if Tim is a member of this board, but he is scum, and should be in jail. I am only glad that my friend did not live long enough to know that there are unscrupulous sellers out there, or it would have broken her heart. Her collection notes were very detailed, and in the comment line for this item she wrote that the original website picture was different from the current copy. All attempts to return were unanswered.

I am 100% positive that the signature is fake, as I have examined it closely with a 7x magnifier to spot at least 12 hesitations that Stephen's signature/writing does not contain. You are all welcome to voice your opinions, but that is not why I am showing you this today. As the book has been left to me, there is no way I would include this in my collection, nor would I ever try to sell it as is with the indication that I am not sure about the signature. Everything in my collection is 100% authentic. Tim's reputation all but confirms that he peddles in garbage, and is a bottom dweller.

That being said, the book is rare and as it is 1 of 10,000, it should have a better fate than at the back of my fireplace. I would like your opinions on what you would do, if the situation was reversed. Would you cover it with a book plate? Cross out the inscription with a marker? Remarque the entire page to erase the offending words? Acetone does not work as it is over 10 years old and was a roller-ball. The ink is permanent. If this was a Revival, or something with a 1,000,000 print run, I wouldn't be having this dilemma. That would be kindling during this cold winter now. The Gunslinger is one of my favorite stories and I love Michael's art. I just can't do that.

That is what I had to say. Any comments, opinions, or matches would be appreciated.

Happy New Year everyone.
Take care.
Gerald

http://geraldwinters.com/king/gunslinger_fake.jpg

Add the tag line after Stephen King ...

Best Wishes from

Stephen King's forgerer

Stephen King's doppelganger

[neo_trinity]

Thank you for all your suggestions. I like the 'real' inscription from Stephen. I am going to write to Marsha in Stephen's office and see if that is something he would be willing to do, if I agree to donate it to charity. Also, the page removal is a good idea if I can find a damaged Gunslinger cheap. I will just look for an eBay listing as "Slightly worn..." That will probably mean beyond hope. If I get my Christmas wish from Santa, maybe Tim Miller can agree to write 'forgerer' in the same shaky handwriting style to make this complete.

[goheat]

If I get my Christmas wish from Santa, maybe Tim Miller can agree to write 'forgerer' in the same shaky handwriting style to make this complete.

LOL! He'd charge you for that as well, no doubt! :nope:

[skyofcrack]

Maybe that is actually King's sig...from the FUTURE! Just write in the date 2054. :D

[neo_trinity]

Maybe that is actually King's sig...from the FUTURE! Just write in the date 2054. :D

Touché . There are other worlds than these.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

One of our most watched forgers has returned

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-GIRL-WHO-LOVED-TOM-GORDON-Stephen-King-Signed-1999-First-hc-dj-/121532786815?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item1c4beb287f

Mulleins

[bdwyer19]

One of our most watched forgers has returned

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-GIRL-WHO-LOVED-TOM-GORDON-Stephen-King-Signed-1999-First-hc-dj-/121532786815?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item1c4beb287f

Mulleins

Wow... not even appearing under a new name. Well, I reported him already.

[AKC]

One of our most watched forgers has returned

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-GIRL-WHO-LOVED-TOM-GORDON-Stephen-King-Signed-1999-First-hc-dj-/121532786815?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item1c4beb287f

Mulleins

Wow... not even appearing under a new name. Well, I reported him already.

Listed a few more....he's on a roll.

[F1racefan]

Wow. The sigs don't look far off to me. I am not sure i would have known they were fakes.:unsure:

[Merlin1958]

Wow. The sigs don't look far off to me. I am not sure i would have known they were fakes.:unsure:

Same here. I would have said they were "good". Very glad for the folks here!!!

[T-Dogz_AK47]

Wow. The sigs don't look far off to me. I am not sure i would have known they were fakes.:unsure:

Same here. I would have said they were "good". Very glad for the folks here!!!

The signature is deliberately out of focus in the photographs, but if you look closely you can make out several hesitations in the loop.

It's a clear fake and the seller is utter scum!!!

[Lookwhoitis]

Here is a funny item:

A copy of Insomnia signed (supposedly) by ROBIN WILLIAMS

http://www.ebay.com/itm/INSOMNIA-STEVEN-KING-SIGNED-BY-ROBIN-WILLIAMS-W-COA-/111454029887?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item19f32d883f

Pretty cool, huh? Except King's Insomnia was not made into a film LOL and Robin Williams starred in the Christopher Nolan version of Insomnia which itself was an adaptation of a Norwegian film.

The guy offering this for sale hawks it with a "COA" but one isnt pictured and also sells autographed sports memorabilia. LOL

Let's just say I wouldnt feel to safe buying sigs of any type from this clown.

[T-Dogz_AK47]

Here is a funny item:

A copy of Insomnia signed (supposedly) by ROBIN WILLIAMS

http://www.ebay.com/itm/INSOMNIA-STEVEN-KING-SIGNED-BY-ROBIN-WILLIAMS-W-COA-/111454029887?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item19f32d883f

Pretty cool, huh? Except King's Insomnia was not made into a film LOL and Robin Williams starred in the Christopher Nolan version of Insomnia which itself was an adaptation of a Norwegian film.

The guy offering this for sale hawks it with a "COA" but one isnt pictured and also sells autographed sports memorabilia. LOL

Let's just say I wouldnt feel to safe buying sigs of any type from this clown.

This has been listed by the same seller before (see post #7267) and it's an obvious fake...

[burial]

1 bid, $50. Seek opinions on sig:

Signed Everything's Eventual by Stephen King (2002, Hardcover) (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Signed-Everythings-Eventual-by-Stephen-King-2002-Hardcover-/121536296687?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item1c4c20b6ef)

1 bid, $50 seek opionions on sig:
[/B] Autographed (Signed) Needful Things by Stephen King (1991, Hardcover) (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Autographed-Signed-Needful-Things-by-Stephen-King-1991-Hardcover-/121536125459?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item1c4c1e1a13)

So what do you think about these sigs?

[frik]

Everything's Eventual: authentic King signature.
Needful things: looks good to me as well...but less certain than EE.

sk

[Br!an]

I like the Everything's Eventual.

I don't like the Needful Things.

[burial]

I like the Everything's Eventual.

I don't like the Needful Things.

don't you think that if one is fake... than buying the other one is risky?

[Br!an]

I won't buy from anyone selling anything sketchy.

The more I look at the Everything's Eventual, the less I like it.

I think you can do better. BTW this seller had this listed previously:emot-roflolmao::

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAz/z/yRYAAOSwkNZUqZf4/$_57.JPG

[jhanic]

Terrible.

John

[bdwyer19]

The seller said that he was given the books as a gift BH a friend who has since passed away. That sounded sketchy to me. Now, seeing the copy of Tommyknockers, I know to stay away.

[Stockerlone]

Something from Germany....

German TGWLTG published 2000
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxNjAw/z/ISIAAOSwyZ5UqXik/$_57.JPG

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Something from Germany....

German TGWLTG published 2000
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxNjAw/z/ISIAAOSwyZ5UqXik/$_57.JPG

Yuk! Terrible signature.

[jhanic]

Something from Germany....

German TGWLTG published 2000
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxNjAw/z/ISIAAOSwyZ5UqXik/$_57.JPG

Yuk! Terrible signature.

Agreed.

John

[burial]

I won't buy from anyone selling anything sketchy.

The more I look at the Everything's Eventual, the less I like it.

I think you can do better. BTW this seller had this listed previously:emot-roflolmao::

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAz/z/yRYAAOSwkNZUqZf4/$_57.JPG

Br!an... where did you got his previous listing?

[OneFathom]

I won't buy from anyone selling anything sketchy.

The more I look at the Everything's Eventual, the less I like it.

I think you can do better. BTW this seller had this listed previously:emot-roflolmao::

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAz/z/yRYAAOSwkNZUqZf4/$_57.JPG

Before we burn this guy at the stake, I actually contacted this seller about this particular book. I said, quite frankly, that it was a terrible forgery and should be taken down. After having a conversation with him through ebay and showing him other examples of legit King sigs (via Tom Folio's site), he also agreed it was bad and took down the posting, thanking me for bringing it to his attention. He was very appreciative of the insight. Just my two cents on the matter...

[Merlin1958]

Fair enough I would suppose.

[Br!an]

I won't buy from anyone selling anything sketchy.

The more I look at the Everything's Eventual, the less I like it.

I think you can do better. BTW this seller had this listed previously:emot-roflolmao::



Br!an... where did you got his previous listing?

Here's the listing:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Autographed-Signed-Edition-The-Tommyknockers-Stephen-King-/121536123185?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item1c4c1e1131&nma=true&si=qu0L8VryHy2Ck87CyBh9vfqu%252FFI%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

[goheat]

Everything's Eventual: authentic King signature.
Needful things: looks good to me as well...but less certain than EE.

sk

Looks like someone got Everything's Eventual (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Signed-Everything-039-s-Eventual-by-Stephen-King-2002-Hardcover-/121536296687?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item1c4c20b6ef&rmvSB=true&nma=true&si=7oQfpph36RqrqYqZJe0CmJP7a0o%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557) for $190.00. Good deal if authentic!

[_PCC_]

Hello all,

A bit of information on this book. This is a First Edition Gunslinger with a near fine dust jacket, clean boards and a tight spine. It is a very good example of this book, with one exception. It was purchased by a friend of mine in Japan, in late 2003, from Tim Miller of Flatsigned.com I was not aware of her decision to purchase this or I would have strongly advised her against it. I am not sure if Tim is a member of this board, but he is scum, and should be in jail. I am only glad that my friend did not live long enough to know that there are unscrupulous sellers out there, or it would have broken her heart. Her collection notes were very detailed, and in the comment line for this item she wrote that the original website picture was different from the current copy. All attempts to return were unanswered.

I am 100% positive that the signature is fake, as I have examined it closely with a 7x magnifier to spot at least 12 hesitations that Stephen's signature/writing does not contain. You are all welcome to voice your opinions, but that is not why I am showing you this today. As the book has been left to me, there is no way I would include this in my collection, nor would I ever try to sell it as is with the indication that I am not sure about the signature. Everything in my collection is 100% authentic. Tim's reputation all but confirms that he peddles in garbage, and is a bottom dweller.

That being said, the book is rare and as it is 1 of 10,000, it should have a better fate than at the back of my fireplace. I would like your opinions on what you would do, if the situation was reversed. Would you cover it with a book plate? Cross out the inscription with a marker? Remarque the entire page to erase the offending words? Acetone does not work as it is over 10 years old and was a roller-ball. The ink is permanent. If this was a Revival, or something with a 1,000,000 print run, I wouldn't be having this dilemma. That would be kindling during this cold winter now. The Gunslinger is one of my favorite stories and I love Michael's art. I just can't do that.

That is what I had to say. Any comments, opinions, or matches would be appreciated.

Happy New Year everyone.
Take care.
Gerald

http://geraldwinters.com/king/gunslinger_fake.jpg


My suggestion would be to contact Donald M. Grant and ask if they used the same paper stock for the 3rd edition Gunslinger. If the page itself is identical I would use it in rebinding. DMG may even have an extra page lying around. But even if it was rebound it would be worth less. Whoever did this will rot in hell.

[RC65]

Hello all,

A bit of information on this book. This is a First Edition Gunslinger with a near fine dust jacket, clean boards and a tight spine. It is a very good example of this book, with one exception. It was purchased by a friend of mine in Japan, in late 2003, from Tim Miller of Flatsigned.com I was not aware of her decision to purchase this or I would have strongly advised her against it. I am not sure if Tim is a member of this board, but he is scum, and should be in jail. I am only glad that my friend did not live long enough to know that there are unscrupulous sellers out there, or it would have broken her heart. Her collection notes were very detailed, and in the comment line for this item she wrote that the original website picture was different from the current copy. All attempts to return were unanswered.

I am 100% positive that the signature is fake, as I have examined it closely with a 7x magnifier to spot at least 12 hesitations that Stephen's signature/writing does not contain. You are all welcome to voice your opinions, but that is not why I am showing you this today. As the book has been left to me, there is no way I would include this in my collection, nor would I ever try to sell it as is with the indication that I am not sure about the signature. Everything in my collection is 100% authentic. Tim's reputation all but confirms that he peddles in garbage, and is a bottom dweller.

That being said, the book is rare and as it is 1 of 10,000, it should have a better fate than at the back of my fireplace. I would like your opinions on what you would do, if the situation was reversed. Would you cover it with a book plate? Cross out the inscription with a marker? Remarque the entire page to erase the offending words? Acetone does not work as it is over 10 years old and was a roller-ball. The ink is permanent. If this was a Revival, or something with a 1,000,000 print run, I wouldn't be having this dilemma. That would be kindling during this cold winter now. The Gunslinger is one of my favorite stories and I love Michael's art. I just can't do that.

That is what I had to say. Any comments, opinions, or matches would be appreciated.

Happy New Year everyone.
Take care.
Gerald

http://geraldwinters.com/king/gunslinger_fake.jpg


My suggestion would be to contact Donald M. Grant and ask if they used the same paper stock for the 3rd edition Gunslinger. If the page itself is identical I would use it in rebinding. DMG may even have an extra page lying around. But even if it was rebound it would be worth less. Whoever did this will rot in hell.

I would take an easier route (and perhaps? less expensive). In the same way that new tattoos are often done to cover up old, unwanted tattoos, I would contact an artist (e.g. Glenn Chardbourne, et al) to do a remarque that covers that up by somehow incorporating its lines into new art. Example:

http://www.tattoolove.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Tattoo-Cover-Up-Waist.jpg


A remarque cover-up may not be as easy as a remarque cover-up, but I would think it's still feasible.

[stroppygoblin]

Gerald, I would try to attend a signing where SK is willing to sign any book (yes I know it doesn't happen often, but you are a patient man right?)
Show him the book - explain you know it's a forgery and ask him to cross it out and sign it as the 'real 'Stephen King'. Now the book is authentic, has a real signature and a nice story.

[billstand]

I agree with having an artist put a remarque there. Especially with how popular they have become. It'd be odd (if even possible) to get King to cross out and re-sign.

If it bothers you, list here or ebay and clearly state it's probably a fake. Someone will find value or a solution.

my $.02

[Anubis2347]

Hello all,

Is this signature legit?

https://pics.librarything.com/picsizes/3e/0a/3e0a5e212d94743637264796a77434b41716b42.jpg

Thank you.

[jhanic]

I'd like to see the entire page, but I have my doubts--the "g" just doesn't look right. Just my opinion, though.

John

[Anubis2347]

Its actually from a S/L of Waste Lands... it just looked weird to me.

[needfulthings]

Hello all,

Is this signature legit?

https://pics.librarything.com/picsizes/3e/0a/3e0a5e212d94743637264796a77434b41716b42.jpg

Thank you.
S/l The Wastelands
http://imageshack.com/a/img633/1681/ypPf95.jpg
WHY IS YOURS SO GRAY?

[Anubis2347]

It's actually from ebay. This is the item number:
271735140287

[Randall Flagg]

Sig is fine.

[AKC]

100% yes.....

[Randall Flagg]

I sent the seller a question about the previous owner's signed name in the book. I asked/said:
"Your header description says "No flaws..."
But says "Collector's signature inside".
Does that mean someone signed their name inside the book?
If so the book is flawed."

The seller responded:

"I am not sure in the book world how the word "flawed" is interpreted. I do not consider something flawed unless someone deliberately caused damage. A name in a book is not damage, but an historical record of the books ownership. eBays listing catagory "Like New" states the follow;

"A book that looks new but has been read. Cover has no visible wear, and the dust jacket (if applicable) is included for hard covers. No missing or damaged pages, no creases or tears, and no underlining/highlighting of text or writing in the margins. May be very minimal identifying marks on the inside cover. Very minimal wear and tear. See the seller’s listing for full details and description of any imperfections.

This is how this and some of the other books we are selling are listed, Hope this helps you understand our listings, Thanks, Richie"

Auction:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-DEAD-ZONE-BY-STEPHEN-KING-Easton-Press-Masterpieces-of-Science-Fiction-/301438595425?ssPageName=ADME%3AX%3ARTQ%3AUS%3A1123&nma=true&si=sC7u%252B80QGt%252BmrOtLDxzR1sGmtn0%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

[Rahfa]

I sent the seller a question about the previous owner's signed name in the book. I asked/said:
"Your header description says "No flaws..."
But says "Collector's signature inside".
Does that mean someone signed their name inside the book?
If so the book is flawed."

The seller responded:

"I am not sure in the book world how the word "flawed" is interpreted. I do not consider something flawed unless someone deliberately caused damage. A name in a book is not damage, but an historical record of the books ownership. eBays listing catagory "Like New" states the follow;

"A book that looks new but has been read. Cover has no visible wear, and the dust jacket (if applicable) is included for hard covers. No missing or damaged pages, no creases or tears, and no underlining/highlighting of text or writing in the margins. May be very minimal identifying marks on the inside cover. Very minimal wear and tear. See the seller’s listing for full details and description of any imperfections.

This is how this and some of the other books we are selling are listed, Hope this helps you understand our listings, Thanks, Richie"

Auction:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-DEAD-ZONE-BY-STEPHEN-KING-Easton-Press-Masterpieces-of-Science-Fiction-/301438595425?ssPageName=ADME%3AX%3ARTQ%3AUS%3A1123&nma=true&si=sC7u%252B80QGt%252BmrOtLDxzR1sGmtn0%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Obviously, the book is flawed, despite the seller's protestations and rationalizations.

But, making the "If so, it's flawed" statement guarantees a snarky response back, so what's the point other than to start an argument? His answer was more polite than I would have been (not that I would have described the book that way).

If your last line was instead "Does that mean someone signed their name inside the book?" then you get a yes-no answer and can make your own decision.

Saying "If so, it's flawed" is giving the seller your opinion and he doesn't agree with it. And he doesn't have to - it's just your opinion, and why should he care what you think? So the conversation has nowhere to go. Stick to facts, and leave opinions out of it.

Internet dialogues would go a lot better if people didn't begin every conversation with blunt opinions that make the other side defensive right from the start.

[Randall Flagg]

The fact is the book is flawed. If you (and other book buyer/ collectors as a community) think that is an opinion, then I suppose I should only have asked questions.
The seller quoted ebay's definition of "New" and part of that says: ..."nd no underlining/highlighting of text or writing in the margins.".

"Margins" is defined as 'the part of a page that is above, below, or to the side of the printed part'.
I suppose if the person wrote/signed their name directly on the text, then that wouldn't be in the margins.

[Rahfa]

It also says:

"May be very minimal identifying marks on the inside cover." Is that the signature? So by Ebay i't's not flawed - or at least still considered "as new"? I don't agree of course, but he has a valid reason for believing what he says.

So it's an opinion what rises to "flawed" or not, not a fact - or put another way, what's your fact (or flaw), might not be someone else's.

Nevertheless, I agree with you - and I'm sure everyone here does. The book's clearly flawed.

But what did you hope to gain, by stating your "fact" to him like that? Did you expect him to say "my god, you're right! I'll change my listing immediately!" I suppose that's possible. But it doesn't take much dimestore psychology to know that most people don't respond to perceived critiques that way, especially online, from strangers. Would you disagree with that?

If you stick to questions, you get answers, that's all I'm saying. That gives you evidence and then people can decide what to do or not. Opinions - especially before you got an answer - serve little purpose.

[Merlin1958]

True. Enter into conversation with an idiot and it will naturally result in an idiotic conversation.

[Randall Flagg]

It also says:

But what did you hope to gain, by stating your "fact" to him like that? Did you expect him to say "my god, you're right! I'll change my listing immediately!" I suppose that's possible. But it doesn't take much dimestore psychology to know that most people don't respond to perceived critiques that way, especially online, from strangers. Would you disagree with that?

If you stick to questions, you get answers, that's all I'm saying. That gives you evidence and then people can decide what to do or not. Opinions - especially before you got an answer - serve little purpose.
In retrospect questions only would have been the way to go. He disagreed, but at least he wasn't rude about it.

[surly]

I'm pretty confident this is good, but I always like to double check. May I get opinions on this one:

http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab21/surly_pics/sig_zps7e6c28c3.jpg

[carlosdetweiller]

Looks good to me.

[goheat]

I'm pretty confident this is good, but I always like to double check. May I get opinions on this one:



Looks good to me.

Looks right to me as well.:thumbsup:

[jhanic]

I agree. It's good.

John

[goheat]

Gee, I wonder if this (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-BOOK-/171639855623?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27f6885a07) is good? Just kidding!
Worse yet, someone paid $350.00 for THIS (http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-WIND-THROUGH-THE-KEYHOLE-HAND-SIGNED-STEPHEN-KING-BOOK-AUTOGRAPH-COA-/261732252705?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cf0753c21&nma=true&si=PEeoPLEaRcBQ%252BxE%252B%252BQRm0CQYLJ0%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557), but yet another seemingly exact item sold with an accepted offer under THIS (http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-WIND-THROUGH-THE-KEYHOLE-HAND-SIGNED-STEPHEN-KING-BOOK-AUTOGRAPH-COA-/251786790478?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item3a9fa9864e), and knowing the seller, and that it supposedly was signed at a Revival tour stop yet the signature doesn't match Revival signatures, is shameful.

[surly]

I'm pretty confident this is good, but I always like to double check. May I get opinions on this one:



Looks good to me.

Looks right to me as well.:thumbsup:

Thanks all. Really appreciate you taking the time to post your thoughts.
Best,
jim

[Randall Flagg]

13 hours left on this one, but another already up for auction:
The Dark Tower Wolves of the Calla Stephen King Limited Edition #995 signed (http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Dark-Tower-Wolves-of-the-Calla-Stephen-King-Limited-Edition-995-signed-/271741627321?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f45102bb9)

New auction:
Stephen King Signed Secret Windows 2000 hc/dj Book Club Edition (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-Signed-Secret-Windows-2000-hc-dj-Book-Club-Edition-/391029273491?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5b0b293393)

[OneFathom]

13 hours left on this one, but another already up for auction:
The Dark Tower Wolves of the Calla Stephen King Limited Edition #995 signed (http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Dark-Tower-Wolves-of-the-Calla-Stephen-King-Limited-Edition-995-signed-/271741627321?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f45102bb9)

New auction:
Stephen King Signed Secret Windows 2000 hc/dj Book Club Edition (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-Signed-Secret-Windows-2000-hc-dj-Book-Club-Edition-/391029273491?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5b0b293393)

Randall...I was just going to post about the Secret Windows "signed" copy. I'm not comfortable with it. What's your take?

[carlosdetweiller]

13 hours left on this one, but another already up for auction:
The Dark Tower Wolves of the Calla Stephen King Limited Edition #995 signed (http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Dark-Tower-Wolves-of-the-Calla-Stephen-King-Limited-Edition-995-signed-/271741627321?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f45102bb9)

New auction:
Stephen King Signed Secret Windows 2000 hc/dj Book Club Edition (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-Signed-Secret-Windows-2000-hc-dj-Book-Club-Edition-/391029273491?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5b0b293393)

Randall...I was just going to post about the Secret Windows "signed" copy. I'm not comfortable with it. What's your take?

I don't like it at all.

[Randall Flagg]

I wouldn't want it for free.

[goheat]

13 hours left on this one, but another already up for auction:
The Dark Tower Wolves of the Calla Stephen King Limited Edition #995 signed (http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Dark-Tower-Wolves-of-the-Calla-Stephen-King-Limited-Edition-995-signed-/271741627321?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f45102bb9)

New auction:
Stephen King Signed Secret Windows 2000 hc/dj Book Club Edition (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-Signed-Secret-Windows-2000-hc-dj-Book-Club-Edition-/391029273491?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5b0b293393)

Randall...I was just going to post about the Secret Windows "signed" copy. I'm not comfortable with it. What's your take?

I don't like it at all.

That seller also has a 'signed' Salem's Lot (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-Signed-Salems-Lot-1975-hc-dj-/391007316505?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item5b09da2a19) that reeks...

[zelig]

I know I'm stating the obvious, but buying signed books off eBay is a treacherous endeavor. When I eventually get around to collecting signed Trade editions, I'll have to proceed with serious caution... It's one of my far-off goals...

[goheat]

I know I'm stating the obvious, but buying signed books off eBay is a treacherous endeavor. When I eventually get around to collecting signed Trade editions, I'll have to proceed with serious caution... It's one of my far-off goals...

Yeah, I have been fortunate to get my many signed trades from DT.org members, reputable sellers, Betts Books, or (back in 2007-2008 anyway) directly from stores where King was doing the signing. It's good to have the Forum here to post potential Ebay purchases for full vetting by the members! :orely:

[dnemec]

I know I'm stating the obvious, but buying signed books off eBay is a treacherous endeavor. When I eventually get around to collecting signed Trade editions, I'll have to proceed with serious caution... It's one of my far-off goals...

Don't discount the ebay deal, though! I got a signed Lisey's Story for a great price last December, but I also posted it here first for second (and third and fourth) opinions. The real signatures are there...you just have to look!

[zelig]

Yeah, you're both on the money... It is invaluable having the ability to check signatures on the forum from the experts, and it's also great we have reputable sources for signed books... I know it's all doable, just takes a little more effort. Back in the day, getting a complete collection of 1st editions was the my main goal, now that I have that covered, getting signed copies of them would be next on the list.

[Merlin1958]

Yeah, you're both on the money... It is invaluable having the ability to check signatures on the forum from the experts, and it's also great we have reputable sources for signed books... I know it's all doable, just takes a little more effort. Back in the day, getting a complete collection of 1st editions was the my main goal, now that I have that covered, getting signed copies of them would be next on the list.

That's pretty much exactly what I did, just years earlier. Good strategy. Just go for "Upgrades"!!! LOL

[zelig]

Yeah, it's like starting from scratch again, only it's more difficult to find the book and they will cost more since they're signed... a little daunting, but something I've been contemplating for a while now...

[AKC]

Good to see one of these out there but, WAY OVERPRICED.

Stupid....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-REGULATORS-Signed-Lettered-G-Bullet-Ed-Bachman-Stephen-King-/181641568148?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a4aae5f94

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Good to see one of these out there but, WAY OVERPRICED.

Stupid....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-REGULATORS-Signed-Lettered-G-Bullet-Ed-Bachman-Stephen-King-/181641568148?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a4aae5f94

FREE SHIPPING though. You have to take the good with the bad.

Mulleins

[OneFathom]

Thoughts on this??? DTV: Wolves of the Calla (Signed; 2nd Printing) (http://www.ebay.com/itm/251795583260?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

[racerx45]

Thoughts on this??? DTV: Wolves of the Calla (Signed; 2nd Printing) (http://www.ebay.com/itm/251795583260?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

I am no expert but it looked OK to me.

edit: I took a second look and now I am not sure so ...

[Randall Flagg]

Thoughts on this??? DTV: Wolves of the Calla (Signed; 2nd Printing) (http://www.ebay.com/itm/251795583260?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

I am no expert but it looked OK to me.

edit: I took a second look and now I am not sure so ...
Looks ok. Font is too large...

[goheat]

Hmm, this sleazy seller is back with THIS (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-Signed-The-Dark-Half-/321645781928?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ae39523a8).

Sadly, he still as 100% positive feedback, so some buyers have been gypped. :angry:

[Stockerlone]

Thoughts on this letter ?

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Stephen-King-sehr-seltener-maschienengeschriebener-Brief-original-signiert-/00/s/OTg2WDE2MDA=/z/u~QAAOSwYGFUvA0L/$_57.JPG

[goheat]

Thoughts on this letter ?

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Stephen-King-sehr-seltener-maschienengeschriebener-Brief-original-signiert-/00/s/OTg2WDE2MDA=/z/u~QAAOSwYGFUvA0L/$_57.JPG

I think it's legit. Close to his Six Stories signature too. Let's see others' opinions too!

[Bev Vincent]

It looks like a typical SK missive.

[jhanic]

It's good.

John

[goheat]

This would be great if authentic, but something is off about the signature. Particularly the 'Stephen' part. Signed 1st of The Girl who Loved Tom Gordon - BIN for $199 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Girl-Who-Loved-Tom-Gordon-by-Stephen-King-Signed-First-Edition-Hardcover-/151563704345?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2349e69819)

[needfulthings]

This would be great if authentic, but something is off about the signature. Particularly the 'Stephen' part. Signed 1st of The Girl who Loved Tom Gordon - BIN for $199 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Girl-Who-Loved-Tom-Gordon-by-Stephen-King-Signed-First-Edition-Hardcover-/151563704345?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2349e69819)
Signed 1st
http://imageshack.com/a/img538/9144/OXJJtK.jpg

[jonp]

This would be great if authentic, but something is off about the signature. Particularly the 'Stephen' part. Signed 1st of The Girl who Loved Tom Gordon - BIN for $199 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Girl-Who-Loved-Tom-Gordon-by-Stephen-King-Signed-First-Edition-Hardcover-/151563704345?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2349e69819)

Yeah I saw that earlier. I'm not 100% sure but may be okay????

[idlewarnings]

I don't like this one at all. It's both too short and too wide. I wouldn't have it in my collection.

[idlewarnings]

Thoughts on this letter ?

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Stephen-King-sehr-seltener-maschienengeschriebener-Brief-original-signiert-/00/s/OTg2WDE2MDA=/z/u~QAAOSwYGFUvA0L/$_57.JPG

I don't like this one either. Looks like it was signed by a secretary if you ask me.

[goheat]

Seriously? I sure hope nobody buys this fake: STEPHEN KING SIGNED AUTOGRAPH IT 1ST EDITION/1ST PRINTING (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-AUTOGRAPH-IT-1ST-EDITION-1ST-PRINTING-HARDCOVER-BOOK-/221673062565?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item339cbe80a5)

[Johnny007]

Hmm, this sleazy seller is back with THIS (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-Signed-The-Dark-Half-/321645781928?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ae39523a8).

Sadly, he still as 100% positive feedback, so some buyers have been gypped. :angry:

I would like to be able to better monitor ebay to maybe stop one or two of these shysters. I sent the following note to the seller. Hopefully they will at least think twice before putting this crap for auction. I'll report if I get any reply.

Sir/Ma'am,

I just saw this auction and it made me sick. It is amazingly obvious that the signature has been forged. Whether or not you knowingly knew that this was a forgery is something that can't be proved now. But going forward I will make sure that any signed SK books you try to see are on the up-and-up.

I do not like to send a note like this but selling forged Stephen King books diminishes the value of SK collections. By the way, I can get another 20 serious collectors to confirm what I've just told you about the signature. I would hope that you'd do the right thing and refund the cost to the poor "winner" but I will not hold my breath. Please do the right thing. On notice...

[Johnny007]

Seriously? I sure hope nobody buys this fake: STEPHEN KING SIGNED AUTOGRAPH IT 1ST EDITION/1ST PRINTING (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-AUTOGRAPH-IT-1ST-EDITION-1ST-PRINTING-HARDCOVER-BOOK-/221673062565?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item339cbe80a5)

This is the note that I sent to the seller of this book. I'll report back if I get a reply.


Sir/Ma'am,

I'd seriously recommend that you pull this auction because the signature is a forgery. It is not even a good forgery. Since I've now warned you that this is a forgery, you would be misrepresenting the lot and be selling a forged document. And even though I am not a lawyer, I believe that knowingly sell a forged document is illegal. Any potential buyer would have justifiable cause against you.

I do not like to send a note like this but selling forged Stephen King books diminishes the value of SK collections. By the way, I can get another 20 serious collectors to confirm what I've just told you about the signature. I hope you do the right thing... Thank you.

[Johnny007]

Good to see one of these out there but, WAY OVERPRICED.

Stupid....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-REGULATORS-Signed-Lettered-G-Bullet-Ed-Bachman-Stephen-King-/181641568148?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a4aae5f94

The price too high but I'd be more concerned that the seller advertises letter "G" when the picture clearly shows letter "W." I would make an offer if I had any confidence that the seller actually has a lettered Regulators in his/her possession. Remember the "asbestos" Firestarter fiasco 3-4 years ago...

[goheat]

Good to see one of these out there but, WAY OVERPRICED.

Stupid....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-REGULATORS-Signed-Lettered-G-Bullet-Ed-Bachman-Stephen-King-/181641568148?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a4aae5f94

The price too high but I'd be more concerned that the seller advertises letter "G" when the picture clearly shows letter "W." I would make an offer if I had any confidence that the seller actually has a lettered Regulators in his/her possession. Remember the "asbestos" Firestarter fiasco 3-4 years ago...

Good catch on that discrepancy of letters!

[AKC]

Good to see one of these out there but, WAY OVERPRICED.

Stupid....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-REGULATORS-Signed-Lettered-G-Bullet-Ed-Bachman-Stephen-King-/181641568148?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a4aae5f94

The price too high but I'd be more concerned that the seller advertises letter "G" when the picture clearly shows letter "W." I would make an offer if I had any confidence that the seller actually has a lettered Regulators in his/her possession. Remember the "asbestos" Firestarter fiasco 3-4 years ago...

Good catch on that discrepancy of letters!

I confirmed with the Seller that the book for sale IS a Letter W.

[Johnny007]

Seriously? I sure hope nobody buys this fake: STEPHEN KING SIGNED AUTOGRAPH IT 1ST EDITION/1ST PRINTING (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-AUTOGRAPH-IT-1ST-EDITION-1ST-PRINTING-HARDCOVER-BOOK-/221673062565?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item339cbe80a5)

This is the note that I sent to the seller of this book. I'll report back if I get a reply.


Sir/Ma'am,

I'd seriously recommend that you pull this auction because the signature is a forgery. It is not even a good forgery. Since I've now warned you that this is a forgery, you would be misrepresenting the lot and be selling a forged document. And even though I am not a lawyer, I believe that knowingly sell a forged document is illegal. Any potential buyer would have justifiable cause against you.

I do not like to send a note like this but selling forged Stephen King books diminishes the value of SK collections. By the way, I can get another 20 serious collectors to confirm what I've just told you about the signature. I hope you do the right thing... Thank you.

Update: No reply to my e-mail but he/she pulled the auction!

[bdwyer19]

Good to see one of these out there but, WAY OVERPRICED.

Stupid....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-REGULATORS-Signed-Lettered-G-Bullet-Ed-Bachman-Stephen-King-/181641568148?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a4aae5f94

The price too high but I'd be more concerned that the seller advertises letter "G" when the picture clearly shows letter "W." I would make an offer if I had any confidence that the seller actually has a lettered Regulators in his/her possession. Remember the "asbestos" Firestarter fiasco 3-4 years ago...

Good catch on that discrepancy of letters!

I confirmed with the Seller that the book for sale IS a Letter W.

Did the seller justify the high price?

[AKC]

Good to see one of these out there but, WAY OVERPRICED.

Stupid....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-REGULATORS-Signed-Lettered-G-Bullet-Ed-Bachman-Stephen-King-/181641568148?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a4aae5f94

The price too high but I'd be more concerned that the seller advertises letter "G" when the picture clearly shows letter "W." I would make an offer if I had any confidence that the seller actually has a lettered Regulators in his/her possession. Remember the "asbestos" Firestarter fiasco 3-4 years ago...

Good catch on that discrepancy of letters!

I confirmed with the Seller that the book for sale IS a Letter W.

Did the seller justify the high price?

Didn't' challenge him on it.

If I didn't already have a copy, would've offered $4,000 with supporting public sales information from the last 5 years. $4,000 - $4,500 is a SOLID range for this book. Probably worth $5k by now.

All he can say is no right?

[AKC]

Good to see one of these out there but, WAY OVERPRICED.

Stupid....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-REGULATORS-Signed-Lettered-G-Bullet-Ed-Bachman-Stephen-King-/181641568148?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a4aae5f94

The price too high but I'd be more concerned that the seller advertises letter "G" when the picture clearly shows letter "W." I would make an offer if I had any confidence that the seller actually has a lettered Regulators in his/her possession. Remember the "asbestos" Firestarter fiasco 3-4 years ago...

Good catch on that discrepancy of letters!

I confirmed with the Seller that the book for sale IS a Letter W.

Did the seller justify the high price?

Didn't' challenge him on it.

If I didn't already have a copy, would've offered $4,000 with supporting public sales information from the last 5 years. $4,000 - $4,500 is a SOLID range for this book. Probably worth $5k by now.

All he can say is no right?

IT IS GONE. Somebody here get it????

[Room 217 Caretaker]

It's still there:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-REGULATORS-Signed-Lettered-G-Bullet-Ed-Bachman-Stephen-King-/181641568148?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a4aae5f94&rmvSB=true

He lowered the price a tad.

Mulleins

[racerx45]

It's still there:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-REGULATORS-Signed-Lettered-G-Bullet-Ed-Bachman-Stephen-King-/181641568148?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a4aae5f94&rmvSB=true

He lowered the price a tad.

Mulleins

I think he started at $10,900 and has dropped the price a few times now. This may be their version of a reverse auction. Start high and keep lowering the price until someone gets nervous that someone else might buy it and click buy it now. This might work out for them better than the make an offer. Either way it is interesting to watch.

[mosheprigan]

This signature is a forgery! Right? I sure hope nobody duys this fake.
http://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11021.m43.l3160/7?euid=2b086cf9eef746a9bb3e55d903ce19a5&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2FeBayISAPI.dll %3FViewItem%26item%3D221675954387%26ssPageName%3DA DME%3ASS%3ASS%3AUS%3A3160

[jhanic]

Terrible!

John

[The Library Policeman]

What do you think of this one, guys?

http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m609/kingpix/C3567829-D8F9-4A2B-B345-020C3C736665_zpsq3ga9ow6.png

[goheat]

K
What do you think of this one, guys?

http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m609/kingpix/C3567829-D8F9-4A2B-B345-020C3C736665_zpsq3ga9ow6.png

Looks legit to me.

[idlewarnings]

I think it's good.

[frik]

Think so too.

sk

[ke7285]

Nice book inscribed to me!!! LOL

What do you think of this one, guys?

http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m609/kingpix/C3567829-D8F9-4A2B-B345-020C3C736665_zpsq3ga9ow6.png

[Randall Flagg]

Strange signature:
THE SHINING CARRIE MISERY - Stephen King SIGNED RARE!!! (http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-SHINING-CARRIE-MISERY-Stephen-King-SIGNED-RARE-/121559776268?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c4d86fc0c)

Horrible:
Signed Stephen King HB Talisman (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Signed-Stephen-King-HB-Talisman-/251817054375?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3aa17750a7)

[KingKorn]

what do you guys think of this signature?
THE SHINING CARRIE MISERY - Stephen King SIGNED RARE!! (http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-SHINING-CARRIE-MISERY-Stephen-King-SIGNED-RARE-/121559776268?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c4d86fc0c)

[Merlin1958]

Not good, IMHO

[KingKorn]

That's what I'm thinking. Looks way too much like "King" and not enough like "Knig" for my taste. Especially for a early mid-nineties sig... just doesn't look right. A little herky-jerky in the swoop, too.

[carlosdetweiller]

Not only is that signature bad but I would stay away from "russdj" altogether. He was a big but indiscriminate buyer on eBay 10 to 15 years ago. Bought damn near every signed King listing on eBay. Got some good ones but got stuck with a lot of forgeries in the process. He was the subject of many discussions back in the day. I think he probably still has many bad ones in his collection.

[AKC]

what do you guys think of this signature?
THE SHINING CARRIE MISERY - Stephen King SIGNED RARE!! (http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-SHINING-CARRIE-MISERY-Stephen-King-SIGNED-RARE-/121559776268?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c4d86fc0c)

Not good. The K is awful.

[Rahfa]

Not only is that signature bad but I would stay away from "russdj" altogether. He was a big but indiscriminate buyer on eBay 10 to 15 years ago. Bought damn near every signed King listing on eBay. Got some good ones but got stuck with a lot of forgeries in the process. He was the subject of many discussions back in the day. I think he probably still has many bad ones in his collection.

"RussDJ" Wow - that's like a distant voice from long ago.

[carlosdetweiller]

Not only is that signature bad but I would stay away from "russdj" altogether. He was a big but indiscriminate buyer on eBay 10 to 15 years ago. Bought damn near every signed King listing on eBay. Got some good ones but got stuck with a lot of forgeries in the process. He was the subject of many discussions back in the day. I think he probably still has many bad ones in his collection.

"RussDJ" Wow - that's like a distant voice from long ago.

Yes, long ago. I wonder what ever happened to "Dr.Mindful"? He was a thorn in my side for a couple of years. Chris Cavalier and I wondered if we would EVER outbid him for anything.

[carlosdetweiller]

Now I'm reminiscing. nursenancy2233, iowabob, randtor, chriscujo, hutch. I'll probably remember others later today if I think about it. maxdevore, of course (AKA deadzone).

[Bev Vincent]

My deadzone handle made it into a Forbes magazine article where a guy was explaining what eBay was all about. I was bidding on an Easton Press edition of The Dead Zone that caught the reporter's eye -- he figured he didn't stand much of a chance against a bidder with that name.

[sentinel]

Now I'm reminiscing. nursenancy2233, iowabob, randtor, chriscujo, hutch. I'll probably remember others later today if I think about it. maxdevore, of course (AKA deadzone).

Good memory Bob! I think I lost to all of them at one time or another!

[carlosdetweiller]

My deadzone handle made it into a Forbes magazine article where a guy was explaining what eBay was all about. I was bidding on an Easton Press edition of The Dead Zone that caught the reporter's eye -- he figured he didn't stand much of a chance against a bidder with that name.

I have a copy of that Forbes magazine. Good stuff! I think I miss the days on eBay when the bidders usernames were listed and not obscured. You knew exactly who you were bidding against and the King world on eBay seemed much smaller and more intimate (if that's the right word).

[Bev Vincent]

Definitely -- it was a much smaller world back then. I miss them, too.

[jhanic]

So do I.

John

[WeDealInLead]

I noticed our old pal brennan (on eBay) is back. He only had one S/L and no other "signed" books. He has a new username and seems to have cleaned up his act.

[Randall Flagg]

No bueno:
FOUR PAST MIDNIGHT 1st Edition STEPHEN KING Signed AUTOGRAPHED AUTOGRAPH ed 1990 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FOUR-PAST-MIDNIGHT-1st-Edition-STEPHEN-KING-Signed-AUTOGRAPHED-AUTOGRAPH-ed-1990-/221682163359?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item339d495e9f)

[jhanic]

Agree.

John

[killjoy72]

No bueno:
FOUR PAST MIDNIGHT 1st Edition STEPHEN KING Signed AUTOGRAPHED AUTOGRAPH ed 1990 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FOUR-PAST-MIDNIGHT-1st-Edition-STEPHEN-KING-Signed-AUTOGRAPHED-AUTOGRAPH-ed-1990-/221682163359?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item339d495e9f)

ALL of this sellers King "signatures" are pretty suspect...
magicmuzaofart (http://www.ebay.com/sch/magicmuzaofart/m.html?item=221682163359&rmvSB=true&hash=item339d495e9f&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562)

[goheat]

No bueno:
FOUR PAST MIDNIGHT 1st Edition STEPHEN KING Signed AUTOGRAPHED AUTOGRAPH ed 1990 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FOUR-PAST-MIDNIGHT-1st-Edition-STEPHEN-KING-Signed-AUTOGRAPHED-AUTOGRAPH-ed-1990-/221682163359?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item339d495e9f)

ALL of this sellers King "signatures" are pretty suspect...
magicmuzaofart (http://www.ebay.com/sch/magicmuzaofart/m.html?item=221682163359&rmvSB=true&hash=item339d495e9f&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562)

Heck, I'd say "pretty suspect" is kind! This sellers stuff is crapola all the way :nope:

[Room 217 Caretaker]

No bueno:
FOUR PAST MIDNIGHT 1st Edition STEPHEN KING Signed AUTOGRAPHED AUTOGRAPH ed 1990 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FOUR-PAST-MIDNIGHT-1st-Edition-STEPHEN-KING-Signed-AUTOGRAPHED-AUTOGRAPH-ed-1990-/221682163359?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item339d495e9f)

ALL of this sellers King "signatures" are pretty suspect...
magicmuzaofart (http://www.ebay.com/sch/magicmuzaofart/m.html?item=221682163359&rmvSB=true&hash=item339d495e9f&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562)

Not just suspect....down right forged. ALL OF THEM.

Mulleins

[Room 217 Caretaker]

This guy is pissing me off soooooo bad:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-Mr-Mercedes-1st-EDITION-first-SIGNED-AUTOGRAPH-book-RARE-HC-/221683269382?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item339d5a3f06

I want to call the Seattle Washing police department and report his forgery sales. I'm starting to hate him as much I do the seller Brennan.

Mulleins

[Lot guy]

Was that the Mr. Mercedes he put up?

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Was that the Mr. Mercedes he put up?

Yes...among a lot of other forged Kings. Simply terrible.

I think the seller already removed Mr. Mercedes. My message to seller about forged items being sent through the mail creates a Federal Offense.

Here is a link to another one the seller is moving:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-From-A-Buick-8-1st-EDITION-first-SIGNED-AUTOGRAPHED-AUTOGRAPH-/221683242236?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item339d59d4fc

If you look at ALL the sellers signed books, they are forged.

Mulleins

[Lot guy]

Mr. Mercedes was pretty bad!

[wolfehr]

I've been looking for a copy of the IT 25th Anniversary by Cemetery Dance and came across the below on ebay. I'm tempted to jump on it, but I'm a new collector, the sellers has low rating, and it's listed as a Publisher's Copy and "PC" is filled in. Look legit? Appreciate any and all help.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181657254903?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

[jonp]

Yes legit. Being a PC copy possibly would not bid higher than the current price.

[Randall Flagg]

Terrible penmanship on the "PC", but I say it's legit and is $200 below issue. Being a PC, I suggest you don't pay more than $1,700. Send the buyer a message and offer less than the $1.8K asking price. He can always lower the BIN.

[wolfehr]

Thank you so much Randall and jonp! Greatly appreciate the help. I'm going to reach out to the seller and see if we can work out a lower price.

[Johnny007]

Was that the Mr. Mercedes he put up?

Yes...among a lot of other forged Kings. Simply terrible.

I think the seller already removed Mr. Mercedes. My message to seller about forged items being sent through the mail creates a Federal Offense.

Here is a link to another one the seller is moving:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-From-A-Buick-8-1st-EDITION-first-SIGNED-AUTOGRAPHED-AUTOGRAPH-/221683242236?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item339d59d4fc

If you look at ALL the sellers signed books, they are forged.

Mulleins

Ralph,

I also sent a letter to this seller -- but I wasn't very nice to him/her. Let's see if this gets pulled within a day or two. If not, my next letter will include the ebay legal department as a cc: to the Federal Attorney Fraud Department (Eastern District). Let's keep the pressure on these crooks.

John

[sharki69]

Thank you so much Randall and jonp! Greatly appreciate the help. I'm going to reach out to the seller and see if we can work out a lower price.

I already like you man ! new collector buying IT S/L .....

Welcome to the site :)

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Was that the Mr. Mercedes he put up?

Yes...among a lot of other forged Kings. Simply terrible.

I think the seller already removed Mr. Mercedes. My message to seller about forged items being sent through the mail creates a Federal Offense.

Here is a link to another one the seller is moving:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-From-A-Buick-8-1st-EDITION-first-SIGNED-AUTOGRAPHED-AUTOGRAPH-/221683242236?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item339d59d4fc

If you look at ALL the sellers signed books, they are forged.

Mulleins

Ralph,

I also sent a letter to this seller -- but I wasn't very nice to him/her. Let's see if this gets pulled within a day or two. If not, my next letter will include the ebay legal department as a cc: to the Federal Attorney Fraud Department (Eastern District). Let's keep the pressure on these crooks.

John

The seller now modified his/her auctions by removing the word signature in the title and claims "There is a signature on a head page - origin unknown".

Check out this signature:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/321661500630

ALL of his/her auctions are forged books. Just removing the word "signed" from the title shouldn't protect the seller from any wrong doing. Especially since he/she has been contacted and reported.

The seller did ask me for Kings secretary contact to locate a person to verify signatures. This should be interesting....haha.

Mulleins

[Johnny007]

Was that the Mr. Mercedes he put up?

Yes...among a lot of other forged Kings. Simply terrible.

I think the seller already removed Mr. Mercedes. My message to seller about forged items being sent through the mail creates a Federal Offense.

Here is a link to another one the seller is moving:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-From-A-Buick-8-1st-EDITION-first-SIGNED-AUTOGRAPHED-AUTOGRAPH-/221683242236?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item339d59d4fc

If you look at ALL the sellers signed books, they are forged.

Mulleins

Ralph,

I also sent a letter to this seller -- but I wasn't very nice to him/her. Let's see if this gets pulled within a day or two. If not, my next letter will include the ebay legal department as a cc: to the Federal Attorney Fraud Department (Eastern District). Let's keep the pressure on these crooks.

John

The seller now modified his/her auctions by removing the word signature in the title and claims "There is a signature on a head page - origin unknown".

Check out this signature:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/321661500630

ALL of his/her auctions are forged books. Just removing the word "signed" from the title shouldn't protect the seller from any wrong doing. Especially since he/she has been contacted and reported.

The seller did ask me for Kings secretary contact to locate a person to verify signatures. This should be interesting....haha.

Mulleins

I also received a reply stating that the ad doesn't mention that it's a King signature...just that it is signed. I explained the futility of that defense but I doubt he/she grasped what I wrote. Also, he accused me of sending your e-mail and explained the ebay rules about multiple identities on ebay. I am still chuckling...no, laughing! More to follow, I'm sure.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

hahahahahahhahhahahaaaaa....multiple identities. I love it. Just wait until all the members here start reporting the auctions. This person won't know what hit them.

Mulleins

[T-Dogz_AK47]

hahahahahahhahhahahaaaaa....multiple identities. I love it. Just wait until all the members here start reporting the auctions. This person won't know what hit them.

Mulleins

I am entering the fray with a strongly worded message to the seller too. Let's see how he can say my ebay usename - which is registered in the UK, can be a multiple ID... LOL! LOL! LOL! :lol:

[Room 217 Caretaker]

After all these multiple identities, Don't I need a shrink?

Mulleins