The eBay BS Game: Questionable items, Stephen King signatures, sellers

[killbourne]

Brennan's response to my message:

Dear welcometolud,

i buy and sell tons of books. I have collectors that get items signed for me at events (local to new england and not local). I buy from many book stores and super collectors across the world.. you think this is the only place i buy items for my collection? anyways thanks for viewing my items, I have removed this item since you dont think its authentic and will be getting a refund from the guy i had it signed for me.
PS: please dont bid on my items if you have those concerns. thanks again


- brennan2984

It's bullshit but he did realize that we're not stupid. I told him that photo is in his feedback unsigned, I also mentioned that Night Shift paperback and basically said "we're on to you." He knows I wasn't bluffing so he took it down. He left the books up and frankly, the whole process can be tedious. If someone else wants to point out he has fakes, he might take them down.
Too bad there isnt some type of internet billboard on ebay to post warnings about this guy.

[Roseannebarr]

question: would you buy this for $112. Check out the photos, there is some water damage to the back.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190801005680&ssPageName=ADME:X:SCO:US:1123


No.

[cit74]

Could be legit, thoughts?
STEPHEN KING SIGNED PHOTOGRAPH Pet Sematary 8x10 Glossy photo AUTOGRAPH RARE (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-PHOTOGRAPH-Pet-Sematary-8x10-Glossy-photo-AUTOGRAPH-RARE-/130854256762?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item1e7785807a)

http://thumbs3.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/m9XkIou_ynLOgZGT7tcPkHw.jpg

nope - since that was the photo i saw that he bought just a few weeks back - and it wasn't signed then - he bought it for about 5 bucks - and it is no longer available

[Randall Flagg]

question: would you buy this for $112. Check out the photos, there is some water damage to the back.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190801005680&ssPageName=ADME:X:SCO:US:1123
The DJ is worthless. The book is ok.
$100, sure, not much more.

[TwistedNadine]

question: would you buy this for $112. Check out the photos, there is some water damage to the back.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190801005680&ssPageName=ADME:X:SCO:US:1123

He sold that book for 113 on Feb 14. I guess the buyer backed out.
Sig looks good to me, but book is trash with those stains imo
Inscription is a bit unique tho

[Randall Flagg]

Effluvia:
Pet Sematary by Stephen King-Signed -1983 1st Ed. (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pet-Sematary-by-Stephen-King-Signed-1983-1st-Ed-/261173502387?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item3ccf2761b3)

[Bev Vincent]

Ha! You'd think that with an example of the signature RIGHT THERE ON THE FREAKING COVER that whoever did that would have done better.

[TwistedNadine]

Ha! You'd think that with an example of the signature RIGHT THERE ON THE FREAKING COVER that whoever did that would have done better.

LOL
Though would be even funnier if someone actually buys it

[Merlin1958]

Ha! You'd think that with an example of the signature RIGHT THERE ON THE FREAKING COVER that whoever did that would have done better.

I sent the seller a "Head's up". I'm hoping he was just duped. LOL But really, Bev you have a good point there!!! LOL LOL


Edit: Her response:

Dear merlin,

Hi,
I'll revise the listing!
Thank you,
Ginger

- 5whatevers3

At least she disclaimed it. Although "Signed" is still in the main listing.

[Randall Flagg]

If the consensus is it's good, I will move the post.
Interesting 1983 signature. King almost forgets the first "e' in Stephen.
Thoughts?

Stephen King CHRISTINE First edition First Printing SIGNED 1983 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-CHRISTINE-First-edition-First-Printing-SIGNED-1983-/310608030922?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item4851ae6cca)





http://www.thedarktower.org/custom/images/1361657438-Christine%20auction%20question.png

[TwistedNadine]

Christine sig looks legit to me

[Randall Flagg]

Thoughts?:
Stephen King Signed~DOLORES CLAIBORNE~1st Ed.Hc/Dj~1993 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-Signed-DOLORES-CLAIBORNE-1st-Ed-Hc-Dj-1993-/111017973910?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item19d92fd896)

[TwistedNadine]

Not sure about this one. Im leaning towards fake


Thoughts?:
Stephen King Signed~DOLORES CLAIBORNE~1st Ed.Hc/Dj~1993 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-Signed-DOLORES-CLAIBORNE-1st-Ed-Hc-Dj-1993-/111017973910?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item19d92fd896)

[carlosdetweiller]

It's no good, IMO. Just like many, if not all, auctions by allstarbooks2010.

[TwistedNadine]

Oh! Didnt notice it was allstarbooks. Yeah, he's almost as bad as Brennan

[Randall Flagg]

Pretty bad:
Stephen King Lisey's Story Signed Book PSA DNA COA Autograph Great Signature (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-Liseys-Story-Signed-Book-PSA-DNA-COA-Autograph-Great-Signature-/251198025627?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a7c91af9b)

[Coulrophobia]

Pretty bad:
Stephen King Lisey's Story Signed Book PSA DNA COA Autograph Great Signature (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-Liseys-Story-Signed-Book-PSA-DNA-COA-Autograph-Great-Signature-/251198025627?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a7c91af9b)

It is the opinion of PSA/DNA Authentication Services that the signature(s) is/are genuine. According to the Certification Database, this item is defined as follows:
T23499
Item: Book
Primary Subject: STEPHEN KING
Result/Grade: Authentic


I do not know how Authentic it is, but at least the Certification Number works.

[TwistedNadine]

Pretty bad:
Stephen King Lisey's Story Signed Book PSA DNA COA Autograph Great Signature (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-Liseys-Story-Signed-Book-PSA-DNA-COA-Autograph-Great-Signature-/251198025627?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a7c91af9b)

When I first looked at it I thot might be ok. "Stephen" looks legit - "King" looks like a cluster f...k

[AKC]

Ok, call me crazy but I honestly think that is Steve's signature. VERY RUSHED....

The "Stephen" obviously looks good and the K has that common loop. I honestly think he was very rushed when he signed it....

I wouldn't own it. Primarily from an aesthetic perspective vs. concerns regarding authenticity.

Probably in the minority......

Bob?

[carlosdetweiller]

I, too, think that it is King's signature. But, for the reasons you mentioned, it will never find a home in my collection.

[Randall Flagg]

One of our favorite sellers:
STEPHEN KING SIGNED Best American Short Stories 2007 RARE 1st PB FIRST AUTOGRAPH (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-Best-American-Short-Stories-2007-RARE-1st-PB-FIRST-AUTOGRAPH-/140921878787?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item20cf993903)


STEPHEN KING SIGNED WOLVES OF THE CALLA DARK TOWER V Autograph FIRST 1st RARE HC (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-WOLVES-OF-THE-CALLA-DARK-TOWER-V-Autograph-FIRST-1st-RARE-HC-/140921878334?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item20cf99373e)



STEPHEN KING SIGNED DUMA KEY 1st FIRST w/ Slipcase LIMITED RARE HC AUTOGRAPH (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-DUMA-KEY-1st-FIRST-w-Slipcase-LIMITED-RARE-HC-AUTOGRAPH-/130857874662?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item1e77bcb4e6)

[TwistedNadine]

He just never quits does he?

[Randall Flagg]

I don't like these:
STEPHEN KING SKELETON CREW SIGNED 1st/1st (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SKELETON-CREW-SIGNED-1st-1st-/251236220406?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item3a7ed87df6)



STEPHEN KING THE REGULATORS SIGNED 1st/1st (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-THE-REGULATORS-SIGNED-1st-1st-/251236220377?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item3a7ed87dd9)




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[thegunslinger41]

I don't like these:
STEPHEN KING SKELETON CREW SIGNED 1st/1st (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SKELETON-CREW-SIGNED-1st-1st-/251236220406?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item3a7ed87df6)



STEPHEN KING THE REGULATORS SIGNED 1st/1st (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-THE-REGULATORS-SIGNED-1st-1st-/251236220377?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item3a7ed87dd9)




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Obvious fakes IMO.

UGH.

On a sidenote...wish I could "stone" ok..maybe "book" brennan into oblivion using his own forged signed books. Someone out there want to cast the first book? I"d suggest IT.

[Randall Flagg]

I suggest Knowing Darkness...

[thegunslinger41]

Haha...forgot about that one. We'll have to use two DT.org members...have our timing right and also remind ourselves to lift with our legs, not our backs.

G

[Randall Flagg]

It may be a legit signature (opinions please), but how does a pic of SK signing books prove King signed the ball?
STEPHEN KING SIGNED RAWLINGS MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL THE STAND IT CARRIE SHINING (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-RAWLINGS-MAJOR-LEAGUE-BASEBALL-THE-STAND-IT-CARRIE-SHINING-/261176936168?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3ccf5bc6e8)

[carlosdetweiller]

What would you think of a rule (unenforceable, I know) stating that one must first give one's own opinion of a signature (legit or not legit) before asking for other opinions?

[Randall Flagg]

What would you think of a rule (unenforceable, I know) stating that one must first give one's own opinion of a signature (legit or not legit) before asking for other opinions?
I would like to hear other opinions before I render an opinion.

De facto if I post it in the BS thread I have rendered an opinion, but I agree that an opinion should be rendered in the post. That is a good idea.

[carlosdetweiller]

I would like to hear other opinions before I render an opinion.


"You've got to pass the bill in order to know what's in the bill." (paraphrasing Nancy Pelosi).

But, seriously, I'm always interested in hearing what others think and why. I think that I have been on the wrong side of these a time or two lately and sometimes find myself just not able to make up my mind one way or the other.

[Randall Flagg]

I would like to hear other opinions before I render an opinion.


"You've got to pass the bill in order to know what's in the bill." (paraphrasing Nancy Pelosi).

But, seriously, I'm always interested in hearing what others think and why. I think that I have been on the wrong side of these a time or two lately and sometimes find myself just not able to make up my mind one way or the other.
Going forth I will render an opinion, but some members may come here wanting opinions because they themselves truly don't know and are seeking help.
Hopefully we won't bust their balls-feel free to bust mine:FU:

[carlosdetweiller]

I won't hesitate to bust yours. Don't worry about that!

[Randall Flagg]

I won't hesitate to bust yours. Don't worry about that!
I think members look forward to you "correcting" me. I also enjoy learning, so it is all in good fun; and hopefully informative.

[carlosdetweiller]

I won't hesitate to bust yours. Don't worry about that!
I think members look forward to you "correcting" me. I also enjoy learning, so it is all in good fun; and hopefully informative.

Yes, all in good fun!

[Coulrophobia]

Only $1000 for this signed baseball, but at least this one looks a little more legit.

http://www.amazon.com/Horror-Stephen-authentically-Autographed-Baseball/dp/B003QX8EIS

[Randall Flagg]

at least this one looks a little more legit.

Is that your opinion?

[carlosdetweiller]

I just think that it is too easy to post a link and ask for opinions without doing some hard thinking prior to posting. I know that it can be scary to post an opinion that may later be proved wrong. Believe me, I feel the same insecurities. But the only way to develop confidence is to make a decision on your own and stick it out there for discussion.

Several years ago when Ceri Vale ran the website skfakes.com he provided a free service to have any King signature evaluated by a "panel of experts." I was flattered to be asked to be on that panel but a little scared and insecure too. The panel, IIRC, was Ceri, Hutch, Shibus, Roy Robbins (Bad Moon Books) and me. A couple of times a week Ceri would send a signature to us for evaluation. Most of them were not obvious fakes and many were real. I never wanted to be the first one to respond. I liked to wait for Hutch (still the best judge, IMO) to answer and then my confidence would increase. But that didn't really help me get better. And when I differed from the others (i.e. was wrong) no one laughed. We just discussed why the others thought differently. And, in the process, I think I got better and better.

In the end we each need to be our own judges of what we buy for our collections and we need to make those decisions for ourselves. Sometimes there may not be help readily available. Anyway, that is why I suggested that the original poster of a questionable item start the process off with his/her opinion.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

<<<The panel, IIRC, was Ceri, Hutch, Shibus, Roy Robbins (Bad Moon Books) and me.>>>

The skfakes panel was the tops. I wish they were still doing it. The "King Community" could really do with an "official panel of experts", just like in the art world for each artist.

Edit: missed out the word "recognised".

[Coulrophobia]

at least this one looks a little more legit.

Is that your opinion?

Yes that is my opinion based on signatures i have seen on here, and the ones I once owned. I will say that part of the reason I joined this site was to get help with signatures based on having to purchase my entire collection over again. The 80's and early 90's was a simpler time, and I obtained many signatures in person. Now with eBay, and many different book sites it is almost impossible to feel comfortable unless it is from a reputable seller.

[Randall Flagg]

at least this one looks a little more legit.

Is that your opinion?

Yes that is my opinion based on signatures i have seen on here, and the ones I once owned. I will say that part of the reason I joined this site was to get help with signatures based on having to purchase my entire collection over again. The 80's and early 90's was a simpler time, and I obtained many signatures in person. Now with eBay, and many different book sites it is almost impossible to feel comfortable unless it is from a reputable seller.
I was just (because you were the first to post after the suggestion by Bob) busting your balls. Pure friendly ball busting. :emot-aslol:

[Coulrophobia]

at least this one looks a little more legit.

Is that your opinion?

Yes that is my opinion based on signatures i have seen on here, and the ones I once owned. I will say that part of the reason I joined this site was to get help with signatures based on having to purchase my entire collection over again. The 80's and early 90's was a simpler time, and I obtained many signatures in person. Now with eBay, and many different book sites it is almost impossible to feel comfortable unless it is from a reputable seller.
I was just (because you were the first to post after the suggestion by Bob) busting your balls. Pure friendly ball busting. :emot-aslol:

I figured I would be targeted. lol I will admit though it is intimidating joining a group of highly knowledgeable collectors, and trying to keep pace. Like I said I have for many years looked in from the outside, and learned a lot from this forum. When my collection was destroyed I am starting from the beginning again, but in a completely different electronic age. So I knew I had to join to ask for help to rebuild again, and I thank everyone for helping.

[Jimimck]

How was your collection destroyed? Thats horrible to hear (I couldn't imagine loosing all my books - just the tought makes me want to ring home to make sure there is nothing on fire!)

[surly]

I just think that it is too easy to post a link and ask for opinions without doing some hard thinking prior to posting. I know that it can be scary to post an opinion that may later be proved wrong. Believe me, I feel the same insecurities. But the only way to develop confidence is to make a decision on your own and stick it out there for discussion.

Several years ago when Ceri Vale ran the website skfakes.com he provided a free service to have any King signature evaluated by a "panel of experts." I was flattered to be asked to be on that panel but a little scared and insecure too. The panel, IIRC, was Ceri, Hutch, Shibus, Roy Robbins (Bad Moon Books) and me. A couple of times a week Ceri would send a signature to us for evaluation. Most of them were not obvious fakes and many were real. I never wanted to be the first one to respond. I liked to wait for Hutch (still the best judge, IMO) to answer and then my confidence would increase. But that didn't really help me get better. And when I differed from the others (i.e. was wrong) no one laughed. We just discussed why the others thought differently. And, in the process, I think I got better and better.

In the end we each need to be our own judges of what we buy for our collections and we need to make those decisions for ourselves. Sometimes there may not be help readily available. Anyway, that is why I suggested that the original poster of a questionable item start the process off with his/her opinion.

Thanks for this. this is one of my favourite threads and rarely a day goes by that i don't spend some time going through the posts - i like to form opinions before looking at what others have to say and then read on to see how i did. there have been a couple of times that i have disagreed but felt too intimidated to jump in the discussion.
i'll probably end up with the village idiot label but i want to get better so i'll do my best to contribute to the discussion more often.

[Merlin1958]

Just to weigh in, speaking for myself I trust and respect the opinions of RF, Mr. R,T,, Bob, AKC and others . I don't generally feel qualified to render an opinion.

Loved the banter between Bob and Jerome!!! You so rarely see chance to utilize the FU smiley in a humorous fashion!!! LOL

[George at C-Springs]

i'll probably end up with the village idiot label

I think you'll probably have to stand in line for that one.

[Randall Flagg]

I don't generally feel qualified to render an opinion.

Then don't...

[Merlin1958]

I don't generally feel qualified to render an opinion.

Then don't...

I didn't!!!

[Coulrophobia]

How was your collection destroyed? Thats horrible to hear (I couldn't imagine loosing all my books - just the tought makes me want to ring home to make sure there is nothing on fire!)

Well long sad story short my mother had just passed away about a month prior, and I had emptied the entire house to have it completely painted and carpeted to give the home a fresh start. So I placed everything in the basement on double pallets making sure if any water did rise it would have to be at least 2 feet to reach anything. Well it was the Friday before Memorial day weekend I went food shopping not remembering it was a holiday weekend. The store was jammed, and it took a couple hours to finish based on the fact they only had like 2 cashiers that morning. So I come home and open the front door hearing what sounded like a truck engine. I step in and my boot became completely submerged in water. I was in shock first thought was my son left the water running or toilet overflowed before he went off to school. I ran upstairs as water was pouring down the stairs, and nothing was running in his room. It was the main to the shower in my bathroom that slipped out of a socket and was firing water into the attic and it collapsed the ceilings and back down into the bedrooms. Which in turn collapsed the ceilings to the middle level, and then followed the air conditioner vents leading into the basement which in turn made it rain and collapsed every box in the basement leaving them floating in 4 feet of water. It destroyed about $300,000 est. of original comic book art, antique radios, and my entire Stephen King collection that dated back to the very early 80's. The pipe in question was a recall, but it would only be replaced if you where the original homeowner based on court records. So while the insurance company covered the home damaged based on the policy being in my mother's name still, but it would not cover my losses since I had yet to begin my policy since I was only a month into the transition stage. So now I can never go back to collecting what I once lost I am simply going to focus on my favorite book IT, and try to replace that section of my collection. Honestly one thing that bothers me to this day is half of it I never seen being tossed away I was in a hotel, and they told me things where destroyed but I always keep a look out on eBay and Craig's List to see if I spot some of my collectibles. So that is the short version. lol

[Jimimck]

Oh that's just aweful!
Good luck replacing the items you are focusing on. I know you've got one nice piece already :biggrin:

[Coulrophobia]

Oh that's just aweful!
Good luck replacing the items you are focusing on. I know you've got one nice piece already :biggrin:

Thank You. Yes I figured start current, and work backwards.

[TwistedNadine]

Thanks for this. this is one of my favourite threads and rarely a day goes by that i don't spend some time going through the posts - i like to form opinions before looking at what others have to say and then read on to see how i did. there have been a couple of times that i have disagreed but felt too intimidated to jump in the discussion.
i'll probably end up with the village idiot label but i want to get better so i'll do my best to contribute to the discussion more often.

I felt the same and then one day I felt strongly enough about a signature and decided to post. Glad I did 'cause Ive actually learned a lot more since contributing to the opinions. Cant say I feel 100% confident - especially these days where his sig is so sloppy - but so much better than a year or so ago.

[sgc1999]

I would really appreciate members to let me know what they think of this signature.
thanks in advance!
http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k599/sgc1999/IMG_6789_zpsc186b371.jpg

[jhanic]

Which book is it in? I don't like the "g".

John

[Ben Staad]

I'm not liking this one. The "g" looks funny (like John said) but most of the letters seem spaced wrong or something. Just my two cents and my opinion should be taken with a grain of salt.

[ChristineB]

The "g" is very strange, but the rest looks real to me, if not extremely ugly. Need to hear from others. I assume this is a very new sig.

Did we ever get any posts of the 8 books rosannebarr got signed at the event?

[carlosdetweiller]

I would really appreciate members to let me know what they think of this signature.


Can you supply a photo of the entire page so we can judge the size of the signature? And, more importantly, what do you think of the signature?

[sgc1999]

I think its legit although I don't like the g. It was supposed to have been signed recently in VT.
unfortunately its in a BCE.
any idea on value as well, its in nf/nf condition
here is a better perspective


http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k599/sgc1999/IMG_6790_zps6ffc156a.jpg

thoughts?

[Fsmdr]

I would vote for fake.....but I could also be wrong.

[Ben Staad]

Is there any significance to the centering of the signature and the way it is almost perfectly parallel to the printed King?

[carlosdetweiller]

Is there any significance to the centering of the signature and the way it is almost perfectly parallel to the printed King?

I think that it is significant. You never (or hardly ever) see real signatures parallel to the printing like that. Almost always you see the signature at an angle. That just does not look like King's signature to me. The new photo showing more of the page helped me out quite a bit. I don't think it is a legit signature. And it especially doesn't look anything like his recent signatures (as this is purported to be).

[Randall Flagg]

Look at the following 5 comparisons, then decide. I will put my opinion after the images.

http://www.thedarktower.org/custom/images/1362167833-sig%20question1.JPG


http://www.thedarktower.org/custom/images/1362167839-sig%20question2.JPG


http://www.thedarktower.org/custom/images/1362167839-sig%20question2.JPG


http://www.thedarktower.org/custom/images/1362167852-sig%20question4.JPG


http://www.thedarktower.org/custom/images/1362167859-sig%20question5.JPG




Very tough to decide, but I hate the"G", and don't like the way the lines on the "K" connect. Likely a good fake,

[Ben Staad]

Interesting, Jerome. I also noticed from your comparisons that none of the loops (coming from the finishing "n" in Stephen) come back across as low as the signature in question.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Seeing the full page, IMO it is not genuine.

[Bev Vincent]

It's a good observation about the angle -- my autographs are never straight unless I'm signing a limitation page where there's a line to guide me.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

I think several of these fakers are now using autopens...

http://www.damilic.com/info/legacy-autopens/autopen-m80

[Randall Flagg]

I think several of these fakers are now using autopens...

http://www.damilic.com/info/legacy-autopens/autopen-m80
Not cheap. Couple used ones on ebay that probably don't work properly. Also, you have to order a template from them. I wonder what they would do if you sent a high quality King scan?
Kind of an obtuse site. Difficult to ascertain pricing.

[sgc1999]

Thank all of you for your help. It is very much appreciated!

[ChristineB]

Seeing the comparisons and the fact it is so straight on the page I will amend my early decision and say good fake.

[EXPLORER]

I would really appreciate members to let me know what they think of this signature.
thanks in advance!
http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k599/sgc1999/IMG_6789_zpsc186b371.jpg

My opinion...... This looks like an attempt to create his sig. It appears as if there was not an even flow, shows hesitation.
I appears like the creator did a letter or two at a time and the g does look off. It also seems too centered and straight on the page.

OR..... I suppose potentially it was done with a pen getting short on ink.
I would not be confident selling that as qenuine.

[Coulrophobia]

I would really appreciate members to let me know what they think of this signature.
thanks in advance!
http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k599/sgc1999/IMG_6789_zpsc186b371.jpg

It looks like a signature stamp to me.

[TwistedNadine]

It just doesnt seem natural. For me sometimes its more a gut feeling than anything I can really pinpoint. This sig is one of them where my gut is screaming FAKE

[carlosdetweiller]

It just doesnt seem natural. For me sometimes its more a gut feeling than anything I can really pinpoint. This sig is one of them where my gut is screaming FAKE

It's almost always a gut feeling with me. I usually can't put into words why I like a sig or not. For me it is either good or it isn't. This particular signature was unusual for me. I really couldn't tell for certain on the closer up image. But the view that showed more of the whole page was very telling and it screamed fake to me on that image. Usually it is the other way around.....I like the closer view to be certain. That was a good exercise for me.

[sgc1999]

Thanks again for all your help, I passed on it.
I will just keep searching and hoping to fill that empty spot in my 1st five King books goal.
some day I will find a nice copy.....I hope http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww173/prestonjjrtr/Smileys/my_fingers.gif

[redsoxfan565]

That is definitely a forged book in the Salem's lot. It doesn't match his newer signatures, and plus the timeline doesn't fit. If it was signed "recently" in VT, the question is when? He doesn't go to VT very often, and especially would not have gone during the winter. Those other books that were dated show that he is down in Sarasota, as he always is during the long winters of New England.

[tippy4]

It just doesnt seem natural. For me sometimes its more a gut feeling than anything I can really pinpoint. This sig is one of them where my gut is screaming FAKE

My feelings exactly.

Something just feels wrong about this.

[sgc1999]

OUCH!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-DOLORES-CLAIBORNE-1ST-ED-PRESENTATION-COPY-VERY-GOOD-/271165180317?pt=AU_Antiquarian_Collectable_Books&hash=item3f22b4499d

[Coulrophobia]

OUCH!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-DOLORES-CLAIBORNE-1ST-ED-PRESENTATION-COPY-VERY-GOOD-/271165180317?pt=AU_Antiquarian_Collectable_Books&hash=item3f22b4499d

That is like low blow ouch or high sticking ouch. Wow

[divemaster]

OUCH!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-DOLORES-CLAIBORNE-1ST-ED-PRESENTATION-COPY-VERY-GOOD-/271165180317?pt=AU_Antiquarian_Collectable_Books&hash=item3f22b4499d

Not only is it a terrible forgery, but the seller doesn't even know what a "presentation copy" is!

[jhanic]

Terrible fake.

John

[EXPLORER]

OUCH!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-DOLORES-CLAIBORNE-1ST-ED-PRESENTATION-COPY-VERY-GOOD-/271165180317?pt=AU_Antiquarian_Collectable_Books&hash=item3f22b4499d

Not only is it a terrible forgery, but the seller doesn't even know what a "presentation copy" is!
AND if you look at the sellers other signed items you'll note all the dates look like they were written by the same hand.. , the sigs don't match the inscriptions.... terrible fakes for sure!
Guess there are bogies in the bushes down under !

[Coulrophobia]

OUCH!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-DOLORES-CLAIBORNE-1ST-ED-PRESENTATION-COPY-VERY-GOOD-/271165180317?pt=AU_Antiquarian_Collectable_Books&hash=item3f22b4499d

http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q715/RuleofSixes/KGrHqRHJFMFErR1SgulBRMoSs8SeQ60_57_zpsaeb1e9a2.jpg

The one on the left was sold.

[Randall Flagg]

To a moron or a fool.

[TwistedNadine]

To a moron who is a fool

[Coulrophobia]

There is a market for these poor souls who buy books with forged signatures. Someone should advertise a Remarque cover up solution. "I am sorry your signed copy is total crap turn it around with a beautiful Remarque wrap!!"

[sgc1999]

There is a market for these poor souls who buy books with forged signatures. Someone should advertise a Remarque cover up solution. "I am sorry your signed copy is total crap turn it around with a beautiful Remarque wrap!!"



I love your optimism ! :)

[Coulrophobia]

There is a market for these poor souls who buy books with forged signatures. Someone should advertise a Remarque cover up solution. "I am sorry your signed copy is total crap turn it around with a beautiful Remarque wrap!!"



I love your optimism ! :)

Thank you. I remember many years ago a man in a casino told me "A sucker might be born every minute, but make sure you are next in line to sell them something to make them feel better.". I never forgot that.

[Randall Flagg]

Terrible:
Gerald's Game by Stephen King (1992, Autographed) (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Geralds-Game-by-Stephen-King-1992-Autographed-/251239022015?pt=US_Nonfiction_Book&hash=item3a7f033dbf)

[ChristineB]

Terrible:
Gerald's Game by Stephen King (1992, Autographed) (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Geralds-Game-by-Stephen-King-1992-Autographed-/251239022015?pt=US_Nonfiction_Book&hash=item3a7f033dbf)

Love the way he tried to make the sig almost unreadable with the dark pic.

[Randall Flagg]

IMO opinion it is legit, but who cares?
Rage (based on work of Stephen King) Signed by Robert and Joan Parker Writers (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rage-based-on-work-of-Stephen-King-Signed-by-Robert-and-Joan-Parker-Writers-/380592474296?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item589d1448b8)

[Randall Flagg]

Terrible attempt:
Nightmares & Dreamscapes by Stephen King**Scarce Signed First Edition (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nightmares-Dreamscapes-by-Stephen-King-Scarce-Signed-First-Edition-/130863382963?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item1e7810c1b3)



One of our favorite sellers:
STEPHEN KING SIGNED REGULATORS Richard Bachman 1st FIRST LIMITED RARE DUTTON MT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-REGULATORS-Richard-Bachman-1st-FIRST-LIMITED-RARE-DUTTON-MT-/140927052341?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item20cfe82a35)

STEPHEN KING SIGNED Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon POP UP SL LIMITED RARE GWLTG 1st (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-Girl-Who-Loved-Tom-Gordon-POP-UP-SL-LIMITED-RARE-GWLTG-1st-/130862480838?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item1e7802fdc6)



STEPHEN KING SIGNED UNDER THE DOME Autograph FIRST 1st/9th VERY RARE LIMITED (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-UNDER-THE-DOME-Autograph-FIRST-1st-9th-VERY-RARE-LIMITED-/130862479645?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item1e7802f91d)

[Roseannebarr]

Terrible attempt:
Nightmares & Dreamscapes by Stephen King**Scarce Signed First Edition (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nightmares-Dreamscapes-by-Stephen-King-Scarce-Signed-First-Edition-/130863382963?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item1e7810c1b3)



One of our favorite sellers:
STEPHEN KING SIGNED REGULATORS Richard Bachman 1st FIRST LIMITED RARE DUTTON MT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-REGULATORS-Richard-Bachman-1st-FIRST-LIMITED-RARE-DUTTON-MT-/140927052341?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item20cfe82a35)

STEPHEN KING SIGNED Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon POP UP SL LIMITED RARE GWLTG 1st (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-Girl-Who-Loved-Tom-Gordon-POP-UP-SL-LIMITED-RARE-GWLTG-1st-/130862480838?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item1e7802fdc6)



STEPHEN KING SIGNED UNDER THE DOME Autograph FIRST 1st/9th VERY RARE LIMITED (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-UNDER-THE-DOME-Autograph-FIRST-1st-9th-VERY-RARE-LIMITED-/130862479645?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item1e7802f91d)


This thread depresses me.

[Randall Flagg]

Too level, I don't like the underline, and just a "feeling".
Hearts in Atlantis, Stephen King, First Edition, Signed (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hearts-in-Atlantis-Stephen-King-First-Edition-Signed-/230941727451?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item35c5331adb)

[Ben Staad]

Too level, I don't like the underline, and just a "feeling".
Hearts in Atlantis, Stephen King, First Edition, Signed (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hearts-in-Atlantis-Stephen-King-First-Edition-Signed-/230941727451?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item35c5331adb)

Isn't that an odd page for SK to sign on?

[carlosdetweiller]

Too level, I don't like the underline, and just a "feeling".
Hearts in Atlantis, Stephen King, First Edition, Signed (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hearts-in-Atlantis-Stephen-King-First-Edition-Signed-/230941727451?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item35c5331adb)

My gut feeling is that it is good. But I am far from certain and I share your concerns. That is one that I would definitely want to see a high resolution close up image. The seller certainly has an interesting feedback profile. Only 3 feedback comments and he has been an eBay member since 2005. It isn't the usual profile for a shady dealer but.....you never know.

[Randall Flagg]

If a member gets a high res pic and posts it here, and the consensus is that it is good, then a value might be had. If it is thought to be good, I'll move these posts.

[ChristineB]

Too level, I don't like the underline, and just a "feeling".
Hearts in Atlantis, Stephen King, First Edition, Signed (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hearts-in-Atlantis-Stephen-King-First-Edition-Signed-/230941727451?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item35c5331adb)

I am falling on the side of good. I do see your point about the underline, it seems too straight, doesn't he "usually" have a bit of a curve in those?

[surly]

Too level, I don't like the underline, and just a "feeling".
Hearts in Atlantis, Stephen King, First Edition, Signed (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hearts-in-Atlantis-Stephen-King-First-Edition-Signed-/230941727451?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item35c5331adb)

My gut feeling is that it is good. But I am far from certain and I share your concerns. That is one that I would definitely want to see a high resolution close up image. The seller certainly has an interesting feedback profile. Only 3 feedback comments and he has been an eBay member since 2005. It isn't the usual profile for a shady dealer but.....you never know.

I'm trying something out to see if it works for me:
i'm approaching these from the angle of 'would i buy this' vs. 'is it real'. it's a subtle difference but it takes the pressure off of being 'right', if that makes any sense.
i do a weighted score out of 10 (1 bad and 10 good) for seller credibility 50% (do i know this person? do they have a reputation? is their story plausible?) signature quality 30% (does the writing compare with others i've seen? is there an inscription or date for additional matching?) gut check 20% (does it just look right or wrong). If it doesn't score well, i just move on - could be real but i won't be adding it to my collection.
in this case:
credibility @ 50% x score of 1= .5
signature @ 30% x score of 8 = 2.4
gut check @ 20% x score of 6 = 1.2

add 'em all up for a weighted score of 4.1 = jim will be moving on from this one.
i'll adjust the weighting as i go and see how it works.

[ChristineB]

If a member gets a high res pic and posts it here, and the consensus is that it is good, then a value might be had. If it is thought to be good, I'll move these posts.

I asked for more pics and he added them to the listing along with sending to me. After seeing them I am still on the side of good, jmo.

[carlosdetweiller]

If a member gets a high res pic and posts it here, and the consensus is that it is good, then a value might be had. If it is thought to be good, I'll move these posts.

I asked for more pics and he added them to the listing along with sending to me. After seeing them I am still on the side of good, jmo.

Yes. I think it looks OK too.

[sgc1999]

this may bit a bit optimistic.:smile_002:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-The-Dark-Tower-Hardcover-Collectible-Boxed-Set-/170999289740?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item27d05a178c

[Merlin1958]

this may bit a bit optimistic.:smile_002:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-The-Dark-Tower-Hardcover-Collectible-Boxed-Set-/170999289740?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item27d05a178c

Ya think??? LOL LOL LOL

[Coulrophobia]

this may bit a bit optimistic.:smile_002:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-The-Dark-Tower-Hardcover-Collectible-Boxed-Set-/170999289740?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item27d05a178c

LoL Even more so with a reserve.

[Merlin1958]

this may bit a bit optimistic.:smile_002:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-The-Dark-Tower-Hardcover-Collectible-Boxed-Set-/170999289740?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item27d05a178c

LoL Even more so with a reserve.

Good point. A reserve no less!!!! LOL LOL LOL

[TwistedNadine]

Too level, I don't like the underline, and just a "feeling".
Hearts in Atlantis, Stephen King, First Edition, Signed (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hearts-in-Atlantis-Stephen-King-First-Edition-Signed-/230941727451?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item35c5331adb)

I agree with ChristineB and Carlos on this one. I think its legit. The additional close up pics the seller added helped

[Randall Flagg]

I am convinced I was wrong...

[TwistedNadine]

I am convinced I was wrong...

Before the close up I also thought it was bad for all the same reasons you noted.

[carlosdetweiller]

Not liking this one very much. Not certain but seems wrong.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-signed-1st-print-CUJO-/121079630615?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item1c30e88b17

[sgc1999]

looks like the top left sig in this group to me. seems consistent with the time period.

http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k599/sgc1999/KingStephen_zps269e49d7.jpg

[Randall Flagg]

Ouch. A member here.
Opinions?

Edit:
I have several images of King sigs from 1982, oddly enough one dated 1/18/82 from a Cujo. They look interesting when compared together.

[carlosdetweiller]

Here is one signed on 1/15/82.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/carlosdetweiller/kingsig82_zps7b828a81.jpg

I think there are some real differences.

[carlosdetweiller]

I'm not savvy enough to post the images side by side but comparing the one above to the auction in question makes me more confident that the auction item is a forgery.

[Coulrophobia]

http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q715/RuleofSixes/KingSig_zpscc80a9a9.png

[killbourne]

I would like to hear what the caretaker aka Ralph would say.

[sgc1999]

here is a slew of sigs from that era. I think the sig in question actually looks the most like the signed limited cujo signature.

http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k599/sgc1999/SK947-3S_zps439adb8a.jpg
http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k599/sgc1999/9567664937_2_zps0483faeb.jpg
http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k599/sgc1999/SK134-2T_zps325f6e69.jpg
http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k599/sgc1999/md1302624873_3_zpsab8473bd.jpg
http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k599/sgc1999/md1033749547_zps7dfbacae.jpg
http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k599/sgc1999/9749842156_3_zps28e7e40a.jpg
http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k599/sgc1999/cujo-361_zps0774d69c.jpg
http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k599/sgc1999/1302624873_3_zps47e9c1c8.jpg
http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k599/sgc1999/278831648_2_zps20764fa9.jpg
http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k599/sgc1999/9567664937_2_zps0483faeb.jpg


If there is one absolute with Kings signature from that time period its that none of these look alike and there are always variants. over all I don't see anything that I cant compare to another king signature for likeness.
That aside this was bought from a very reputable seller and I have never had a problem buying from them before. But of course everyone has there own thought and feelings and that's cool. That's what makes this site the most valuable elite in the field of all things Stephen King:)

[Robert Fulman]

http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q715/RuleofSixes/KingSig_zpscc80a9a9.pngIt's funny, my first thought is that the blotch at the end of Stephen would be a sign of hesitation, which would be an indicator of a forgery (someone making sure that the next stroke of the pen was the right one). But the second signature shows the same thing; on the assumption that the signtaure on the right is legit, that would imply that King would finish writing "Stephen" and then leave pen where it was for a bit before lifting it off the page.

[sgc1999]

here are 2 more from our catalog.



http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k599/sgc1999/Cujo_signed_limited_zps2e022ce0.jpg

http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k599/sgc1999/King_Check_zps19a8cd9d.jpg


the check looks even closer.

[Coulrophobia]

From the pics the only signature that does not have a swoop at the bottom of the S is the book in question.

[sgc1999]

From the pics the only signature that does not have a swoop at the bottom of the S is the book in question.

did you see the picture of the check the post right before yours?

[Coulrophobia]

Yes but look at the bottom left part of the S.

http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q715/RuleofSixes/KingSig_zpscc80a9a9-1_zps391d3060.png

[sgc1999]

I hear ya.
I just pulled 4 pics from signed limited editions that his signature's didn't swoop or pass the front edge of the S. not the only time he got lazy as I will prove tomorrow.
Im going to bed so I will post them in the morning.
I stay convinced it is a legitimate signature.
will post more pics tomorrow.

[Shannon]

I was doing my normal Stephen King searches when a slew of VERY HIGH PRICED SK books came up. $2,5000 BIN set of Castle Rocks ... $2,750 first edition The Stand ... $4,250 DT VIII S/L ... and so on. I absolutely had to message the seller, and this is what I said:

"Not to be a dick or anything, but are you joking with these prices? The fact that I even have to SCROLL THROUGH your waste of time posts angers me. If I could punch you through the Internet, I would. Please, do everyone a favor, and die. Not just die, but die, become a ghost, get trapped in some kind of limbo where you are forced to have sex with your parents all day, every day, and then, just when you think you've had enough, you accidentally get your own mother pregnant and then have to eat your son-brother with only a glass of sour milk to wash him down with. Thanks, have a nice day!"

P.S. If this seller, rfbooks, is any of you ... just kidding! ... right? lol

[carlosdetweiller]

As we have said in the past most of the time a signature either looks right to us or it doesn't look right. On this one my fake detecting antennae shot up immediately when I saw the photo in the listing.

I think that if one goes through a large library of King signatures (that contain cancelled checks and other off-beat sigs) looking for a particular letter that matches up with another particular letter then you can probably find examples that look the same. Like, OK here's a "t" from 1988 that looks like the "t" in my signature. Or, this "S" on this cancelled check matches.

But there is no denying (at least in my mind) that the signature in question doesn't look anything like other examples of King's signature on other signed Cujo's from the same day or week of signing.

I'll never say I am 100% sure about anything. I've been wrong in the past. But I don't think I am wrong on this one.

[thegunslinger41]

I was doing my normal Stephen King searches when a slew of VERY HIGH PRICED SK books came up. $2,5000 BIN set of Castle Rocks ... $2,750 first edition The Stand ... $4,250 DT VIII S/L ... and so on. I absolutely had to message the seller, and this is what I said:

"Not to be a dick or anything, but are you joking with these prices? The fact that I even have to SCROLL THROUGH your waste of time posts angers me. If I could punch you through the Internet, I would. Please, do everyone a favor, and die. Not just die, but die, become a ghost, get trapped in some kind of limbo where you are forced to have sex with your parents all day, every day, and then, just when you think you've had enough, you accidentally get your own mother pregnant and then have to eat your son-brother with only a glass of sour milk to wash him down with. Thanks, have a nice day!"

P.S. If this seller, rfbooks, is any of you ... just kidding! ... right? lol

Haha...I should try to find some of my own scathing messages that i've sent to people with ridiculous prices for their stuff.

Good Job Shannon! :)

[Randall Flagg]

Just gut on this, but it looks wrong to me:
Stephen King~SIGNED~The Tommyknocke~TRUE 1ST/1ST~First Printing**VERY FINE/NEW** (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-SIGNED-The-Tommyknocke-TRUE-1ST-1ST-First-Printing-VERY-FINE-NEW-/221200286922?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item33809084ca)

Same seller, same gut feeling-and the "G" is off:
Stephen King~SIGNED~The Regulators~TRUE 1ST/1ST~First~Bachman **VERY FINE/NEW** (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-SIGNED-The-Regulators-TRUE-1ST-1ST-First-Bachman-VERY-FINE-NEW-/221200284874?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item3380907cca)

[sgc1999]

Just gut on this, but it looks wrong to me:
Stephen King~SIGNED~The Tommyknocke~TRUE 1ST/1ST~First Printing**VERY FINE/NEW** (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-SIGNED-The-Tommyknocke-TRUE-1ST-1ST-First-Printing-VERY-FINE-NEW-/221200286922?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item33809084ca)

Same seller, same gut feeling-and the "G" is off:
Stephen King~SIGNED~The Regulators~TRUE 1ST/1ST~First~Bachman **VERY FINE/NEW** (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-SIGNED-The-Regulators-TRUE-1ST-1ST-First-Bachman-VERY-FINE-NEW-/221200284874?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item3380907cca)


those are definitely fakes.

as far as my cujo I am considering taking it down as I do respect the experts here. I didn't get that feeling I usually do when I look at a signature. I have sent several books back before, not feeling they were legit but I kept the cujo cause I really don't get that gut feeling. But again I do appreciate the pro's and friends opinions on this thread and as a result I am considering either taking the book down or making a note on the auction that the validity of the signature has been questioned.
Thanks for your input all who joined in. And thanks to others for not touching this one with a ten foot pole:)
you guys are great!

[carlosdetweiller]

I was doing my normal Stephen King searches when a slew of VERY HIGH PRICED SK books came up. $2,5000 BIN set of Castle Rocks ... $2,750 first edition The Stand ... $4,250 DT VIII S/L ... and so on. I absolutely had to message the seller, and this is what I said:

"Not to be a dick or anything, but are you joking with these prices? The fact that I even have to SCROLL THROUGH your waste of time posts angers me. If I could punch you through the Internet, I would. Please, do everyone a favor, and die. Not just die, but die, become a ghost, get trapped in some kind of limbo where you are forced to have sex with your parents all day, every day, and then, just when you think you've had enough, you accidentally get your own mother pregnant and then have to eat your son-brother with only a glass of sour milk to wash him down with. Thanks, have a nice day!"

P.S. If this seller, rfbooks, is any of you ... just kidding! ... right? lol

I just scroll past listings that don't interest me and don't give them another thought.

[sgc1999]

lol, Shannon your a hoot.

[TwistedNadine]

Yes but look at the bottom left part of the S.

http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q715/RuleofSixes/KingSig_zpscc80a9a9-1_zps391d3060.png

Well I love Sgc1999 and I did try to keep my mouth shut for as long as I could but the temptation was too great after seeing the above images.
I do think this one is a forgery (Im sorry SGC1999!). Its one of those gut reactions when you look at it its just not right and though we can try to point out specific wrongs its the overall look and feel of the sig and date that is off (imho).
I will mention that if there was anything to be specifically pointed out it would be the loop on the K and the N in king. The K seems to have too much of a curl where the others in that time period appeared straighter and/or more closed off. And the N is just wrong - looks more like an R
Sorry Simon

[ChristineB]

Yes but look at the bottom left part of the S.

http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q715/RuleofSixes/KingSig_zpscc80a9a9-1_zps391d3060.png

Well I love Sgc1999 and I did try to keep my mouth shut for as long as I could but the temptation was too great after seeing the above images.
I do think this one is a forgery (Im sorry SGC1999!). Its one of those gut reactions when you look at it its just not right and though we can try to point out specific wrongs its the overall look and feel of the sig and date that is off (imho).
I will mention that if there was anything to be specifically pointed out it would be the loop on the K and the N in king. The K seems to have too much of a curl where the others in that time period appeared straighter and/or more closed off. And the N is just wrong - looks more like an R
Sorry Simon

This is a hard one IMO, one second it looks good to me then the next it doesn't. So I am on the fence on this one. Again, I am not an expert on this.

[EXPLORER]

How comfortable are you telling a book dealer the signature in thier book is fake or questionable?
I was at the St Peterberg Antiquarian Book Fair this weekend and while searching through the 99
venders and the goods available I did find some Notable King items. I also found a couple items that
most anyone here would recognize as adorned with a bogus signature. I politely pointed out the
flawed signatures to the two book dealers and got varied responses. One had a Tommyknockers with
a real bad sig while also displaying a 11/22/63 with a good current sig. I was able to note the difference and
and he acknowledged he had some question in his mind about the bogus sig and immediately took the
signed label off the Tommyknockers.
The other seller had a "Signed" copy of Thinner in his display case marked for sale at $1400.
He was not as comfortable hearing my unsolicted comment however said he'd have to check it out.
I was very candid approaching both dealers about these items however thought later that it was a bit nervy
or bold that I would speak out like that to these "Fine book dealers".

[divemaster]

I think you did the right thing. Sounds like you were professional and businesslike. In such a circumstance you don't want to come across as some sort of flake. Present your credentials (member of this site, have evaluated numerous signatures, have bought and sold, whatever). State your case politely and let them do what they want to do with the new information. If they cop an attitude, that's on them, not you.

You could also direct them to this site. I believe Jerome has signature examples for just about every year King has been publishing. That way, the "fine book dealers" can do a little investigating and make learned comparisons.

[Randall Flagg]

You could also direct them to this site. I believe Jerome has signature examples for just about every year King has been publishing...
http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showwiki.php?title=Stephen+King+Signatures+1980-Present&redirect=no

[carlosdetweiller]

How comfortable are you telling a book dealer the signature in thier book is fake or questionable?


I'd take it on a case by case basis. Just as I don't e-mail sellers on eBay offering fake signatures I wouldn't necessarily feel obligated to tell a seller face-to-face that I thought his signed book was forged. I'd probably just put in back on the shelf or back in the case and move on. I think that is especially true at a book fair where I am likely meeting a dealer for the first time and will likely never meet him again. The seller doesn't know my credentials (if I even have any) and has no reason to take my word for anything. I have returned books on ABE and eBay with questionable signatures and gotten into a couple of heated e-mail exchanges. I don't need that to happen in person.

[sgc1999]

How comfortable are you telling a book dealer the signature in thier book is fake or questionable?
I was at the St Peterberg Antiquarian Book Fair this weekend and while searching through the 99
venders and the goods available I did find some Notable King items. I also found a couple items that
most anyone here would recognize as adorned with a bogus signature. I politely pointed out the
flawed signatures to the two book dealers and got varied responses. One had a Tommyknockers with
a real bad sig while also displaying a 11/22/63 with a good current sig. I was able to note the difference and
and he acknowledged he had some question in his mind about the bogus sig and immediately took the
signed label off the Tommyknockers.
The other seller had a "Signed" copy of Thinner in his display case marked for sale at $1400.
He was not as comfortable hearing my unsolicted comment however said he'd have to check it out.
I was very candid approaching both dealers about these items however thought later that it was a bit nervy
or bold that I would speak out like that to these "Fine book dealers".

I think you did the right thing too. They most likely had no clue. Better to have a good reputation than make an unsavory sale.

Thanks TN, I love you too:)

[killbourne]

How comfortable are you telling a book dealer the signature in thier book is fake or questionable?


I'd take it on a case by case basis. Just as I don't e-mail sellers on eBay offering fake signatures I wouldn't necessarily feel obligated to tell a seller face-to-face that I thought his signed book was forged. I'd probably just put in back on the shelf or back in the case and move on. I think that is especially true at a book fair where I am likely meeting a dealer for the first time and will likely never meet him again. The seller doesn't know my credentials (if I even have any) and has no reason to take my word for anything. I have returned books on ABE and eBay with questionable signatures and gotten into a couple of heated e-mail exchanges. I don't need that to happen in person.

I tend to agree. Those situations have potential to get hostile, and who needs that.

[EXPLORER]

You could also direct them to this site. I believe Jerome has signature examples for just about every year King has been publishing...
http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showwiki.php?title=Stephen+King+Signatures+1980-Present&redirect=no

and that I did as well with the one seller welcoming the suggestion and the other likely to appreciate it if he actually checks in

[Randall Flagg]

I don't like it:
Salem's Lot by Stephen King Autographed by author. c1975. (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Salems-Lot-by-Stephen-King-Autographed-by-author-c1975-/151009606824?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item2328dfbca8)


Simply terrible:
Stephen King MISERY Inscribed 1st Printing/Edition 1987 HB/DJ Signed (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-MISERY-Inscribed-1st-Printing-Edition-1987-HB-DJ-Signed-/171005822534?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item27d0bdc646)

[carlosdetweiller]

The 'Salem's Lot signature is good, I think.

The Misery inscription and sig are horrible.

[RC65]

Simply terrible:
[/B]Stephen King MISERY Inscribed 1st Printing/Edition 1987 HB/DJ Signed (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-MISERY-Inscribed-1st-Printing-Edition-1987-HB-DJ-Signed-/171005822534?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item27d0bdc646)

That's not even close. I wonder why one would go to such lengths to forge a signature and then add an inscription that, for most, would inherently limit the appeal for buyers/ collectors (unless your last name was Doty). Funny, I have this image in my head of someone who looks vaguely like King coming in to their restaurant to eat, then being comped the meal and handed a book to sign...Sure, he thinks, why not, sounds like a deal to me. Or maybe I'm just giving the owners of the book too much benefit of the doubt, ascribing their ownership of the "signed" book more to ignorance than duplicity.

[Coulrophobia]

The Misery signature has a restaurant comment maybe he was drunk. lol

[sgc1999]

It was probably Joe and he was just like "what the hell free food" :)

[Scoogs]

Different Seasons (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-SIGNED-1st-ed-Different-Seasons-/200905922692?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item2ec6ed1884)
I don't know the early signatures at all, is this as bad as I suspect?

[jhanic]

Yes.

John

[Randall Flagg]

The Different Seasons is a poor fake.

[Randall Flagg]

Terrible:
Stephen King SIGNED The Tommyknockers (1 of 2 types from the 1st ed. set) (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-SIGNED-The-Tommyknockers-1-of-2-types-from-the-1st-ed-set-/200905927563?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item2ec6ed2b8b)

[Randall Flagg]

Pathetic, and can't spell "signed"
Stephen King SIGED (SIC) 1st ed. The Dark Half (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-SIGED-1st-ed-The-Dark-Half-/200905925735?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item2ec6ed2467)

[Randall Flagg]

Your friend and mine has more great offerings:
STEPHEN KING SIGNED On Writing FIRST 1st NM HORROR SUPER RARE LIMITED AUTOGRAPH (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-On-Writing-FIRST-1st-NM-HORROR-SUPER-RARE-LIMITED-AUTOGRAPH-/140931480161?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item20d02bba61)

[Randall Flagg]

I would not want to be handcuffed to a bed with this copy:
Gerald's Game by Stephen King (1992, Autographed) (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Geralds-Game-by-Stephen-King-1992-Autographed-/251244165292?pt=US_Nonfiction_Book&hash=item3a7f51b8ac)

[TwistedNadine]

I would not want to be handcuffed to a bed with this copy:
Gerald's Game by Stephen King (1992, Autographed) (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Geralds-Game-by-Stephen-King-1992-Autographed-/251244165292?pt=US_Nonfiction_Book&hash=item3a7f51b8ac)

Picture is too dark to even see the signature


Your friend and mine has more great offerings:
STEPHEN KING SIGNED On Writing FIRST 1st NM HORROR SUPER RARE LIMITED AUTOGRAPH (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-On-Writing-FIRST-1st-NM-HORROR-SUPER-RARE-LIMITED-AUTOGRAPH-/140931480161?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item20d02bba61)

I refuse to even look at his listings


The 'Salem's Lot signature is good, I think.

I agree

[killbourne]

Question: Recently, I was wondering what should a seller do if the opinion of the good folks here discuss an item on ebay, and the opinion is that the signature is in doubt. Should the seller put something in his ebay listing saying that he is not 100% sure that the listing is legit? Just curious.

[Merlin1958]

Question: Recently, I was wondering what should a seller do if the opinion of the good folks here discuss an item on ebay, and the opinion is that the signature is in doubt. Should the seller put something in his ebay listing saying that he is not 100% sure that the listing is legit? Just curious.

A lot of times I assume the seller is unaware and send him/her a message and then let them take it from there. You'd be surprised how many folks have no idea (allegedly) that they are perpetuating a fraud.

[Randall Flagg]

If the seller consulted here and the signature was thought to be illegitimate, then at the very least the seller should disclose the opinion that they themselves sought (via post or search) in their ad.
As difficult as is it may be, I would have to think long and hard about it.
After thinking about it; if I believed the signature to be a fake, I would tear the page out and destroy it (the page). Hopefully the DJ could help someone.

[killbourne]

Question: Recently, I was wondering what should a seller do if the opinion of the good folks here discuss an item on ebay, and the opinion is that the signature is in doubt. Should the seller put something in his ebay listing saying that he is not 100% sure that the listing is legit? Just curious.

A lot of times I assume the seller is unaware and send him/her a message and then let them take it from there. You'd be surprised how many folks have no idea (allegedly) that they are perpetuating a fraud.

I agree.

[killbourne]

If the seller consulted here and the signature was thought to be illegitimate, then at the very least the seller should disclose the opinion that they themselves sought (via post or search) in their ad.
As difficult as is it may be, I would have to think long and hard about it.
After thinking about it; if I believed the signature to be a fake, I would tear the page out and destroy it (the page). Hopefully the DJ could help someone.

Another great opinion that I agree with. The dustjacket comment, soo true. So, tear the page out, save the dustjacket, and donate the book(my thoughts on how to at least salvage a good story). Once again, I appreciate all the comments. Thanks!!

[killbourne]

If the seller consulted here and the signature was thought to be illegitimate, then at the very least the seller should disclose the opinion that they themselves sought (via post or search) in their ad.
As difficult as is it may be, I would have to think long and hard about it.
After thinking about it; if I believed the signature to be a fake, I would tear the page out and destroy it (the page). Hopefully the DJ could help someone.

Another scenario, what if they didnt seek out the opinion of the group, and it was just given?

[Merlin1958]

Od course, if the book in question is "Faithful", then this is also a viable option...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StZK4Iw2xHc&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[sgc1999]

Od course, if the book in question is "Faithful", then this is also a viable option...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StZK4Iw2xHc&feature=youtube_gdata_player

ashes to ashes, dust to dust. the fate of this book, seems so unjust:)

[killbourne]

Od course, if the book in question is "Faithful", then this is also a viable option...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StZK4Iw2xHc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I felt myself asking for the book before it was burned.

[killbourne]

Opinions needed: will be back in a minute-getting used to posting images.
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/6462/randomkingpicture.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/221/randomkingpicture.jpg/)

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[Ben Staad]

I am no expert but this looks like one of his new/current signatures. I don't like it as a signature but it may be legit. The newer SK signatures are very hard for me to make heads or tails of. Hopefully some of the signature specialists will chime in on this one.

[carlosdetweiller]

Opinions needed: will be back in a minute-getting used to posting images.
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/6462/randomkingpicture.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/221/randomkingpicture.jpg/)

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It is forged to resemble a new/current signature but it is a forgery.

[Ben Staad]

It is forged to resemble a new/current signature but it is a forgery.

On second look I think I see some hesitation marks (maybe) but are there some major flaws you would be willing to share here or via PM? Like I said the newer signatures are very tough for me to figure out. Thanks!

[killbourne]

It is forged to resemble a new/current signature but it is a forgery.

Im leaning towards the same conclusion. As always, I appreciate the feedback.

[killbourne]

And two more, to give me practice posting pictures.
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/9416/tworandomkingpicture.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/685/tworandomkingpicture.png/)

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Now, are these pictures going to be ok if I delete them from imageshack? Dont want to leave them in there with the rest of my pics

[killbourne]

Ok, im done. Just wanted some practice.

[Randall Flagg]

Well you have figured out how to upload images of bad signatures.

[Randall Flagg]

Someone should shove this seller down an empty well hole:
STEPHEN KING "DOLORES CLAIBORNE" 1ST ED- PRESENTATION COPY! VERY GOOD! (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-DOLORES-CLAIBORNE-1ST-ED-PRESENTATION-COPY-VERY-GOOD-/271172017540?pt=AU_Antiquarian_Collectable_Books&hash=item3f231c9d84)

Bad signature knocking:
Stephen King - The Tommyknockers - SIGNED 1st Ed.by Author!!! NO RESERVE (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-The-Tommyknockers-SIGNED-1st-Ed-by-Author-NO-RESERVE-/350739720007?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item51a9b76747)



This one kept me up all night:
Stephen King - Insomnia - SIGNED by Author!!! NO RESERVE (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-Insomnia-SIGNED-by-Author-NO-RESERVE-/350739717363?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item51a9b75cf3)



I think King's "twinner" signed this one:
Stephen King - The Talisman - SIGNED by Author!!! NO RESERVE (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-The-Talisman-SIGNED-by-Author-NO-RESERVE-/350739712614?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item51a9b74a66)




Tough to sign while handcuffed:
Stephen King - Gerald's Game SIGNED by Author!!! NO RESERVE!!! (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-Geralds-Game-SIGNED-by-Author-NO-RESERVE-/350739703582?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item51a9b7271e)



King had the flu when he signed this:
Stephen King - The Stand - Complete and Uncut SIGNED by Author!!! (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-The-Stand-Complete-and-Uncut-SIGNED-by-Author-/350739696508?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item51a9b70b7c)

[killbourne]

Well you have figured out how to upload images of bad signatures.

HA! No sh*t! excuse the french.

[Ben Staad]

In the S.C. it looks like the "g" is unfinished as well.

[sgc1999]

my eyes, there burning....take them down!!!

[sgc1999]

has anyone else told this seller ALL of his books listed are fakes?
here's a link to one.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-The-Tommyknockers-SIGNED-1st-Ed-by-Author-NO-RESERVE-/350739720007?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item51a9b76747
Buyer Beware seller: candjbaird

[cit74]

But they were all found at a thrift store and all were signed...I'm guessing they did the signature

[sgc1999]

riiiiiiight. :)

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

[QUOTE=killbourne;762909]Opinions needed: will be back in a minute-getting used to posting images

It is forged to resemble a new/current signature but it is a forgery.

The forger had a very shaky hand!

[Randall Flagg]

I am in fear of this signature:
Fear Itself: The Horror Fiction of Stephen King**Signed by Stephen King**1st VGC (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fear-Itself-The-Horror-Fiction-of-Stephen-King-Signed-by-Stephen-King-1st-VGC-/130868723640?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item1e78623fb8)

[Merlin1958]

I am in fear of this signature:
Fear Itself: The Horror Fiction of Stephen King**Signed by Stephen King**1st VGC (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fear-Itself-The-Horror-Fiction-of-Stephen-King-Signed-by-Stephen-King-1st-VGC-/130868723640?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item1e78623fb8)


I don't blame you. Even I can see that is terrible!!!

[Coulrophobia]

Curse you Monster energy drink.

[bdwyer19]

I am in fear of this signature:
Fear Itself: The Horror Fiction of Stephen King**Signed by Stephe'n King**1st VGC (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fear-Itself-The-Horror-Fiction-of-Stephen-King-Signed-by-Stephen-King-1st-VGC-/130868723640?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item1e78623fb8)

I emailed her awhile back... her 'TRUSTED REPUTIBLE DEALER OF RARE BOOKS' is also known as Half Price Books. Ha!

[sgc1999]

Bogus!

[killbourne]

http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/9848/randomking3.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/820/randomking3.jpg/)

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Opinions needed.

[carlosdetweiller]

Looks OK to me. Typical of recent crappy signature. Would help to see a photo of the entire page.

[AKC]

Good.....

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Yep...sig is good.

Mulleins

[killbourne]

Thanks everyone! Always appreciated!

[Randall Flagg]

Yes we are requested to render an opinion rather than a question, but...WTF?
Stephen King's The Shining SIGNED 1st Printing (Softcover 1978) #WS (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-Kings-The-Shining-SIGNED-1st-Printing-Softcover-1978-WS-/390559826851?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item5aef2e03a3)



http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gif
Time left:

[Ben Staad]

Yes we are requested to render an opinion rather than a question, but...WTF?

Does it look that bad? I'm trying to learn more about identifying SK's signature but this isn't obviously (and on first look) bad to me.

[Randall Flagg]

Opinions?
I could be wrong, but it looks like King signed "Kmg"
Stephen King Signed Bag Of Bones Book Autograph 1st Printing Novel (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-Signed-Bag-Of-Bones-Book-Autograph-1st-Printing-Novel-/290880761133?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item43b9d82d2d)

[cit74]

Opinions?
I could be wrong, but it looks like King signed "Kmg"
Stephen King Signed Bag Of Bones Book Autograph 1st Printing Novel (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-Signed-Bag-Of-Bones-Book-Autograph-1st-Printing-Novel-/290880761133?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item43b9d82d2d)

Well at least he dotted the M (or a little slashy/line/dot). Does he usually underline his name like that though? I don't recall seeing any with his name underlined from these posts

[Coulrophobia]

Opinions?
I could be wrong, but it looks like King signed "Kmg"
Stephen King Signed Bag Of Bones Book Autograph 1st Printing Novel (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-Signed-Bag-Of-Bones-Book-Autograph-1st-Printing-Novel-/290880761133?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item43b9d82d2d)

I would of like to have seen the "guidelines" flyer.

"It's very important not to embellish on your signing. No extraneous comments. No questions. No compliments." - altered Seinfeld

[carlosdetweiller]

Opinions?
I could be wrong, but it looks like King signed "Kmg"
Stephen King Signed Bag Of Bones Book Autograph 1st Printing Novel (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-Signed-Bag-Of-Bones-Book-Autograph-1st-Printing-Novel-/290880761133?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item43b9d82d2d)

IMO, that one is OK.

[Randall Flagg]

Damn, I am 0/2 today.

[carlosdetweiller]

Damn, I am 0/2 today.

Not necessarily! Just differing opinions. At least one of us is right!

[Randall Flagg]

Legitimate items (price is arguable), but he amends the shipping to state $29 and $32 to USA or Canada-and HE IS IN Canada!
Stephen King - Nightmares & Dreamscapes RARE UK GIFT EDITION in green cloth! (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-Nightmares-Dreamscapes-RARE-UK-GIFT-EDITION-in-green-cloth-/300877256190?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item460dae95fe)




Stephen King - Dolores Claiborne - RARE UK GIFT EDITION in blue cloth! (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-Dolores-Claiborne-RARE-UK-GIFT-EDITION-in-blue-cloth-/300877255929?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item460dae94f9)

[WeDealInLead]

Yup, that's how much it costs to ship a package over 2 lbs to the US. No standard mail, it has to go Expedited.

[Randall Flagg]

Yup, that's how much it costs to ship a package over 2 lbs to the US. No standard mail, it has to go Expedited.
Does it cost $30 to mail Canada to Canada?

[bdwyer19]

It looks good to me. What do the experts think?

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem;PdsSession=7b27eb5513d0a5abe8d27cb2fffaa4 93?itemId=181102095572&index=3&nav=SEARCH&nid=68221827676

[carlosdetweiller]

It looks good to me. What do the experts think?

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem;PdsSession=7b27eb5513d0a5abe8d27cb2fffaa4 93?itemId=181102095572&index=3&nav=SEARCH&nid=68221827676

I think it is just fine. I've never known that seller to sell a fake. I think he overgrades his books sometimes but all the King signatures I've seen him sell have been legit.

[Randall Flagg]

It looks good to me. What do the experts think?

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem;PdsSession=7b27eb5513d0a5abe8d27cb2fffaa4 93?itemId=181102095572&index=3&nav=SEARCH&nid=68221827676
We compared that in another thread. It looks good.
Here is the comparison image:
http://www.thedarktower.org/custom/images/1363371535-9%2023%201980%20comparison.jpg

[bdwyer19]

Ah, yes. I remember seeing that now. Thanks RF!

[sgc1999]

anyone ask what printing the fire starter is?

[Randall Flagg]

There ought to be "regulations" against attempts like this:
STEPHEN KING THE REGULATORS SIGNED 1st/1st (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-THE-REGULATORS-SIGNED-1st-1st-/251247748409?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item3a7f886539)

Same seller:
STEPHEN KING SKELETON CREW SIGNED 1st/1st (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SKELETON-CREW-SIGNED-1st-1st-/251247748072?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item3a7f8863e8)

[Ben Staad]

LOL. Did I miss out on a "new" SK book? Quote from seller of signed Desperation "I had to buy 4 copies of 12/22/63 to get my others signed!!!".

Edit: This seller is a real piece of work. Read the descriptions for both and you will see. :angry:

[Tito_Villa]

Reported

[Randall Flagg]

As much as it pains me to do so, I feel compelled to bring up this auction. A well respected member of our community has listed the item, but I have had private inquiries as to the signature/inscription.
Opinions may vary, and we could have 10 well respected members oppose 10 other well respected members as to a signatures legitimacy.
The best policy is to be up front.
For the record, I don't believe it to be inscribed/signed by Stephen King.
Rare Stephen King signed 1st edition of "IT" scarce signed dated 1st/1st (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Stephen-King-signed-1st-edition-of-IT-scarce-signed-dated-1st-1st-/121083010889?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item1c311c1f49)

[carlosdetweiller]

I agree with RF that this sig/inscription is not legit.

[Randall Flagg]

I struggled a bit with this and it was tough to mention. I do however feel a higher commitment to all of our members over one of our members.
If I am going to point out Intriguing Auctions, I should also mention questionable items no matter who listed them.
FWIW, If I owned a book that was thought to be in question, I would either blatantly mention the doubts in my ad for the item-or just tear the page out and donate the book to a library.

[sgc1999]

I disagree with it being a fake. I believe it is a legitimate inscription.
that said, I do appreciate the folks who look out for us here and there opinions whether I am in agreement or not.
I know the members here are always looking out for each others best interest and im happy to be a part.

[killbourne]

LOL. Did I miss out on a "new" SK book? Quote from seller of signed Desperation "I had to buy 4 copies of 12/22/63 to get my others signed!!!".

Edit: This seller is a real piece of work. Read the descriptions for both and you will see. :angry:
In all fairness, I usually ask the seller a question or two before I even consider reporting someone because the ultimate ramification for such a thing is jail time. In mentioning that, I did try and contact the seller in regards to his blatant lie about the origins of the book..which, so far, no response. I share the same philosophy as merlin, I believe that number of people selling fakes dont even know that they are selling them.

[killbourne]

I struggled a bit with this and it was tough to mention. I do however feel a higher commitment to all of our members over one of our members.
If I am going to point out Intriguing Auctions, I should also mention questionable items no matter who listed them.
FWIW, If I owned a book that was thought to be in question, I would either blatantly mention the doubts in my ad for the item-or just tear the

Its against ebay policies to put anything to auction that you are not 100% certain of its authenticity. With that in mind, how does one list an item on ebay that has some doubters here on the forum?

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/authenticity-disclaimers.html

[Tito_Villa]

LOL. Did I miss out on a "new" SK book? Quote from seller of signed Desperation "I had to buy 4 copies of 12/22/63 to get my others signed!!!".

Edit: This seller is a real piece of work. Read the descriptions for both and you will see. :angry:
In all fairness, I usually ask the seller a question or two before I even consider reporting someone because the ultimate ramification for such a thing is jail time. In mentioning that, I did try and contact the seller in regards to his blatant lie about the origins of the book..which, so far, no response. I share the same philosophy as merlin, I believe that number of people selling fakes dont even know that they are selling them.

Replied to me, seller is very convinced they have legitimate signatures, I call bull shit

[Tito_Villa]

I agree with RF that this sig/inscription is not legit.

I wouldn't own it, don't like the Sig and the date too

[killbourne]

LOL. Did I miss out on a "new" SK book? Quote from seller of signed Desperation "I had to buy 4 copies of 12/22/63 to get my others signed!!!".

Edit: This seller is a real piece of work. Read the descriptions for both and you will see. :angry:
In all fairness, I usually ask the seller a question or two before I even consider reporting someone because the ultimate ramification for such a thing is jail time. In mentioning that, I did try and contact the seller in regards to his blatant lie about the origins of the book..which, so far, no response. I share the same philosophy as merlin, I believe that number of people selling fakes dont even know that they are selling them.

Replied to me, seller is very convinced they have legitimate signatures, I call bull shit

Well, his downfall is the lie in his auction about buying so many copies to get such and such other books signed. If he had purchased these books form someplace believing they are the real deal..thats another issue completely. People are not really aware of this site and the knowledge that the members here have in regards such things. Unaware people get a pass...scammers dont.

[sgc1999]

LOL. Did I miss out on a "new" SK book? Quote from seller of signed Desperation "I had to buy 4 copies of 12/22/63 to get my others signed!!!".

Edit: This seller is a real piece of work. Read the descriptions for both and you will see. :angry:
In all fairness, I usually ask the seller a question or two before I even consider reporting someone because the ultimate ramification for such a thing is jail time. In mentioning that, I did try and contact the seller in regards to his blatant lie about the origins of the book..which, so far, no response. I share the same philosophy as merlin, I believe that number of people selling fakes dont even know that they are selling them.

Replied to me, seller is very convinced they have legitimate signatures, I call bull shit

Well, his downfall is the lie in his auction about buying so many copies to get such and such other books signed. If he had purchased these books form someplace believing they are the real deal..thats another issue completely. People are not really aware of this site and the knowledge that the members here have in regards such things. Unaware people get a pass...scammers dont.

Ya,
If he didn't blatantly lie you could give him the benefit of the doubt about him knowing, but its pretty obvious he is just a shyster.

[Roseannebarr]

LOL. Did I miss out on a "new" SK book? Quote from seller of signed Desperation "I had to buy 4 copies of 12/22/63 to get my others signed!!!".

Edit: This seller is a real piece of work. Read the descriptions for both and you will see. :angry:
In all fairness, I usually ask the seller a question or two before I even consider reporting someone because the ultimate ramification for such a thing is jail time. In mentioning that, I did try and contact the seller in regards to his blatant lie about the origins of the book..which, so far, no response. I share the same philosophy as merlin, I believe that number of people selling fakes dont even know that they are selling them.

Replied to me, seller is very convinced they have legitimate signatures, I call bull shit

Well, his downfall is the lie in his auction about buying so many copies to get such and such other books signed. If he had purchased these books form someplace believing they are the real deal..thats another issue completely. People are not really aware of this site and the knowledge that the members here have in regards such things. Unaware people get a pass...scammers dont.

I believe the lie has a little truth to it! In Savannah Georgia we had to buy a copy of 11/22/63 UNSIGNED to be able to get a book signed. Either a SK book of our choice or 11/22/63. There is no way SK signed 11/22/63 + another book in Savannah. My wife and I had #363 signing ticket. they were signing 1 book per person/line ticket. You had 1 line ticket, one book got signed. (with few exceptions). You were allowed to go buy more books/line tickets. I own 7 copies unsigned of 11/22/63 - I was able to get 7 other books signed. We watched SK sign 400 books (not 800). We were in the front row watching. I would like to know if the seller claims to have gotten them in Savannah. That is a devious and dishonest way to get rid of 7 books!

[Roseannebarr]

If i had a book that i had doubts about, i would not sell it to another collector. too many fakes out there. i can see someone getting duped and trying to get rid of it, but i could not pass it on. I certaintly don't want a fake in my collection.

[AKC]

As much as it pains me to do so, I feel compelled to bring up this auction. A well respected member of our community has listed the item, but I have had private inquiries as to the signature/inscription.
Opinions may vary, and we could have 10 well respected members oppose 10 other well respected members as to a signatures legitimacy.
The best policy is to be up front.
For the record, I don't believe it to be inscribed/signed by Stephen King.
Rare Stephen King signed 1st edition of "IT" scarce signed dated 1st/1st (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Stephen-King-signed-1st-edition-of-IT-scarce-signed-dated-1st-1st-/121083010889?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item1c311c1f49)


I agree with RF that this sig/inscription is not legit.

Unfortunately, I am not comfortable with the signature either......this is not a reflection on the Seller, simply my opinion as to the authenticity of what he/she was sold and is now choosing to resell.....

Obviously just an opinion....

[idlewarnings]

As much as it pains me to do so, I feel compelled to bring up this auction. A well respected member of our community has listed the item, but I have had private inquiries as to the signature/inscription.
Opinions may vary, and we could have 10 well respected members oppose 10 other well respected members as to a signatures legitimacy.
The best policy is to be up front.
For the record, I don't believe it to be inscribed/signed by Stephen King.
Rare Stephen King signed 1st edition of "IT" scarce signed dated 1st/1st (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Stephen-King-signed-1st-edition-of-IT-scarce-signed-dated-1st-1st-/121083010889?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item1c311c1f49)


I agree with RF that this sig/inscription is not legit.

Unfortunately, I am not comfortable with the signature either......this is not a reflection on the Seller, simply my opinion as to the authenticity of what he/she was sold and is now choosing to resell.....

Obviously just an opinion....

I'm always watching sgc's auctions because he's got a lot of great books, but I gotta side with the others on this one. I don't think that's a legit inscription.

[Randall Flagg]

Knock, Knock.
Who's there?
Fake.
Fake who?
Faker!
Stephen King SIGNED The Tommyknockers (1 of 2 types from the 1st ed. set) (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-SIGNED-The-Tommyknockers-1-of-2-types-from-the-1st-ed-set-/200908238660?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item2ec7106f44)


One of our favorite people:
STEPHEN KING SIGNED REGULATORS Richard Bachman 1st FIRST LIMITED RARE DUTTON MT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-REGULATORS-Richard-Bachman-1st-FIRST-LIMITED-RARE-DUTTON-MT-/140937037313?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item20d0808601)

STEPHEN KING SIGNED WOLVES OF THE CALLA DARK TOWER V Autograph FIRST 1st RARE HC (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-WOLVES-OF-THE-CALLA-DARK-TOWER-V-Autograph-FIRST-1st-RARE-HC-/130871459890?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item1e788c0032)

[Coulrophobia]

Knock, Knock.
Who's there?
Fake.
Fake who?
Faker!
Stephen King SIGNED The Tommyknockers (1 of 2 types from the 1st ed. set) (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-SIGNED-The-Tommyknockers-1-of-2-types-from-the-1st-ed-set-/200908238660?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item2ec7106f44)


One of our favorite people:
STEPHEN KING SIGNED REGULATORS Richard Bachman 1st FIRST LIMITED RARE DUTTON MT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-REGULATORS-Richard-Bachman-1st-FIRST-LIMITED-RARE-DUTTON-MT-/140937037313?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item20d0808601)

STEPHEN KING SIGNED WOLVES OF THE CALLA DARK TOWER V Autograph FIRST 1st RARE HC (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-WOLVES-OF-THE-CALLA-DARK-TOWER-V-Autograph-FIRST-1st-RARE-HC-/130871459890?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item1e788c0032)

http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q715/RuleofSixes/will-smith-men-in-black-3-470x268_zps6dba71e5.jpg

[Randall Flagg]

Not only is the book in scrappy condition, but the seller will protect it: "I will ship the book in its mylar bag and place cardboard around it to prevent any bending during shipping. "
The Long Walk RICHARD BACHMAN STEPHEN KING 1st Ed 1979 Signet PB Very RARE!! (http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Long-Walk-RICHARD-BACHMAN-STEPHEN-KING-1st-Ed-1979-Signet-PB-Very-RARE-/181106452477?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item2a2ac927fd)

http://thumbs2.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/m-aDFPk-RgozKeIXsra5wWA.jpg

[TwistedNadine]

I agree with RF that this sig/inscription is not legit.

I wouldn't own it, don't like the Sig and the date too

I also have to agree with the other members - I dont like it.
I have to do some searching but I think that same book was posted and discussed some time ago (way back) in this thread.

[carlosdetweiller]

I agree with RF that this sig/inscription is not legit.

I wouldn't own it, don't like the Sig and the date too

I also have to agree with the other members - I dont like it.
I have to do some searching but I think that same book was posted and discussed some time ago (way back) in this thread.

Yes. I thought it looked familiar too.

[Randall Flagg]

What a "Misery" able attempt:
SIGNED Misery by Stephen King (1987, Hardcover) (http://www.ebay.com/itm/SIGNED-Misery-by-Stephen-King-1987-Hardcover-/121084788925?pt=US_Nonfiction_Book&hash=item1c313740bd)

http://thumbs2.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/m_R3V2MXE8m1_WGajkP3xQg.jpg

[Coulrophobia]

Hot glue guns are not just for crafts anymore.

[Randall Flagg]

Are these "photos" of photos?
MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE 4x6 photo set (37) STEPHEN KING/EMILIO ESTEVEZ (http://www.ebay.com/itm/MAXIMUM-OVERDRIVE-4x6-photo-set-37-STEPHEN-KING-EMILIO-ESTEVEZ-/380604641806?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item589dcdf20e)

[Randall Flagg]

I think Tom Gordon signed this for King:
STEPHEN KING -"THE GIRL WHO LOVED TOM GORDON" AUTOGRAPHED 1ST ED- VERY GOOD! (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-THE-GIRL-WHO-LOVED-TOM-GORDON-AUTOGRAPHED-1ST-ED-VERY-GOOD-/271177083136?pt=AU_Antiquarian_Collectable_Books&hash=item3f2369e900)

Bad Penny, can you drop by and shove this guy down a well?:
STEPHEN KING "DOLORES CLAIBORNE" 1ST ED- PRESENTATION COPY! VERY GOOD! (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-DOLORES-CLAIBORNE-1ST-ED-PRESENTATION-COPY-VERY-GOOD-/271177063333?pt=AU_Antiquarian_Collectable_Books&hash=item3f23699ba5)

[Randall Flagg]

Probably a waste of time to post movie scripts (I think 99+% are fakes) but:
Cujo Signed 1983 Movie Script by Stephen King (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cujo-Signed-1983-Movie-Script-by-Stephen-King-/390564782258?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5aef79a0b2)

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Probably a waste of time to post movie scripts (I think 99+% are fakes) but:
Cujo Signed 1983 Movie Script by Stephen King (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cujo-Signed-1983-Movie-Script-by-Stephen-King-/390564782258?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5aef79a0b2)

Agree....99% of all movie scripts posted are fake. I've only seen a handful of legit signed scripts. I own a legit King signed Pet Sematary script he did for a fund raiser. I have all the documentation to support it along with original numbered auction bag it's housed in.

Mulleins

[Bad Penny]

I think Tom Gordon signed this for King:
STEPHEN KING -"THE GIRL WHO LOVED TOM GORDON" AUTOGRAPHED 1ST ED- VERY GOOD! (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-THE-GIRL-WHO-LOVED-TOM-GORDON-AUTOGRAPHED-1ST-ED-VERY-GOOD-/271177083136?pt=AU_Antiquarian_Collectable_Books&hash=item3f2369e900)

Bad Penny, can you drop by and shove this guy down a well?:
STEPHEN KING "DOLORES CLAIBORNE" 1ST ED- PRESENTATION COPY! VERY GOOD! (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-DOLORES-CLAIBORNE-1ST-ED-PRESENTATION-COPY-VERY-GOOD-/271177063333?pt=AU_Antiquarian_Collectable_Books&hash=item3f23699ba5)

By more than happy to Jerome - freaking flea (I didn't think there were too many of his ilk living down here) !!! :shoot:

[Room 217 Caretaker]

This seller is back with three more forged sigs:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-SIGNED-Bag-of-Bones-First-edition-first-print-1st-1st-Very-Fine-New-/221205907796?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item3380e64954

Mulleins

[bdwyer19]

This seller is back with three more forged sigs:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-SIGNED-Bag-of-Bones-First-edition-first-print-1st-1st-Very-Fine-New-/221205907796?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item3380e64954

Mulleins

Definite forgeries. Wow, are those ugly!

[biomieg]

Huh. This is weird (I'm not taking it very seriously, don't worry):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/very-rare-stephen-king-richard-bachman-book-eth-natas-exorcism-tabitha-king-auto-/330896163034?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item4d0af2c0da

Quote:


very rare pre-carrie 1972 paperback by eth natas (the satan) called Exorcism

this has been for many years rumored to be by Stephen King and published pre-Carrie in order to pay bills and capitalize on the Exorcist craze of the times.

please see the excerpt from Michael Collings book King as Richard Bachman which details how King reportedly admitted to writing this one drunken night to a small group of friends. A

King rarity. also included is an Overlook Connection book plate signed by Tabitha King for the Book One on One. also rare to find authentic Tabitha autographs.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Huh. This is weird (I'm not taking it very seriously, don't worry):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/very-rare-stephen-king-richard-bachman-book-eth-natas-exorcism-tabitha-king-auto-/330896163034?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item4d0af2c0da

Quote:


very rare pre-carrie 1972 paperback by eth natas (the satan) called Exorcism

this has been for many years rumored to be by Stephen King and published pre-Carrie in order to pay bills and capitalize on the Exorcist craze of the times.

please see the excerpt from Michael Collings book King as Richard Bachman which details how King reportedly admitted to writing this one drunken night to a small group of friends. A

King rarity. also included is an Overlook Connection book plate signed by Tabitha King for the Book One on One. also rare to find authentic Tabitha autographs.

At least it is in the correct thread. Ebay Bullshit.

[Randall Flagg]

The same seller posts this auction, with photo showing numerous items, but they are not included:
Rare Autograph Writer STEPHEN KING HAND SIGNED Color PICTURE horror salem's lot (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Autograph-Writer-STEPHEN-KING-HAND-SIGNED-Color-PICTURE-horror-salems-lot-/330896562176?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d0af8d800)

http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mm6QW2v326o-J7QIitlCqFA.jpg

[Randall Flagg]

A true 1st, but if the owner wrote his name in the book, how can it be "in perfect condition"?
PERF COND Stephen King IT First Edition First Printing Horror Novel Book HC DJ (http://www.ebay.com/itm/PERF-COND-Stephen-King-IT-First-Edition-First-Printing-Horror-Novel-Book-HC-DJ-/171013550928?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item27d133b350)

[Randall Flagg]

So bad that I puked-and lost 1LB. I suppose I am thinner:
Thinner by Richard Bachman-Stephen King Copyright 1984 Signed? (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Thinner-by-Richard-Bachman-Stephen-King-Copyright-1984-Signed-/111039536807?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item19da78dea7)

[jhanic]

I think it should say "scribbled in".

John

[divemaster]

A trashed out book, not a first edition, and "scribbled in." Toss it in the dumpster!

[Coulrophobia]

You never know it could be a rare first drawing/idea for a redesign of the Slinky.

[Randall Flagg]

Does this seller just have a million bookplates? Something seems wrong, all of the bookplate shots are/were the same:
Cujo by Stephen King SIGNED (1982, Paperback) #WS (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cujo-by-Stephen-King-SIGNED-1982-Paperback-WS-/390565859975?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item5aef8a1287)

He never stops:
STEPHEN KING SIGNED REGULATORS Richard Bachman 1st FIRST LIMITED RARE DUTTON MT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-REGULATORS-Richard-Bachman-1st-FIRST-LIMITED-RARE-DUTTON-MT-/140941904244?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item20d0cac974)

[Merlin1958]

Does this seller just have a million bookplates? Something seems wrong, all of the bookplate shots are/were the same:
Cujo by Stephen King SIGNED (1982, Paperback) #WS (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cujo-by-Stephen-King-SIGNED-1982-Paperback-WS-/390565859975?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item5aef8a1287)

He never stops:
STEPHEN KING SIGNED REGULATORS Richard Bachman 1st FIRST LIMITED RARE DUTTON MT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-REGULATORS-Richard-Bachman-1st-FIRST-LIMITED-RARE-DUTTON-MT-/140941904244?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item20d0cac974)

Actually, "The Reculators" looks pretty good, but I'm a neophyte.

[Roseannebarr]

Does this seller just have a million bookplates? Something seems wrong, all of the bookplate shots are/were the same:
Cujo by Stephen King SIGNED (1982, Paperback) #WS (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cujo-by-Stephen-King-SIGNED-1982-Paperback-WS-/390565859975?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item5aef8a1287)

He never stops:
STEPHEN KING SIGNED REGULATORS Richard Bachman 1st FIRST LIMITED RARE DUTTON MT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-REGULATORS-Richard-Bachman-1st-FIRST-LIMITED-RARE-DUTTON-MT-/140941904244?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item20d0cac974)

Actually, "The Reculators" looks pretty good, but I'm a neophyte.

What worries me is if Brennan is selling all these books and then the people that bought them start selling them we lose the origin of Brennon Books. i can't buy any books from EBAY! Unless they are S/L

[Randall Flagg]

What a mess. I don't think these are worth the opening bid of $1,200, but look through it and decide for yourself:
stephen king first salems lot shining shift stand rage limited artist signed (http://www.ebay.com/itm/stephen-king-first-salems-lot-shining-shift-stand-rage-limited-artist-signed-/251251576182?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item3a7fc2cd76)

[Randall Flagg]

Miserable attempt:
Stephen King Misery Signed First (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-Misery-Signed-First-/111040771238?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item19da8bb4a6)

[Randall Flagg]

Must be the day for Misery(able) attempts:
SIGNED BY Stephen King 1987 Misery 1st Ed HC w/ DJ Book Viking Penguin Very Good (http://www.ebay.com/itm/SIGNED-BY-Stephen-King-1987-Misery-1st-Ed-HC-w-DJ-Book-Viking-Penguin-Very-Good-/111041152952?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item19da9187b8)

[Randall Flagg]

Not bullshit, but I have a feeling this is a lousy book:

Stephen King's America by Jonathan P. Davis (1994, Paperback) (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-Kings-America-by-Jonathan-P-Davis-1994-Paperback-/140943702752?pt=US_Nonfiction_Book&hash=item20d0e63ae0)


http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mh8LhKXZITjys6xF3Ea2qxw.jpg
Stephen King's America aims to heighten awareness of the numerous American issues that resonate throughout King's fiction, issues that bear universal application to the evolution of the human condition.

[sgc1999]

Synopsis

"Stephen King's America aims to heighten awareness of the numerous American issues that resonate throughout King's fiction, issues that bear universal application to the evolution of the human condition."

If that sounds interesting in anyway to anyone you can buy it on amazon for a $1.11
personally, I would rather use the money for a coffee:)

[jhanic]

It sounds like someone's college paper.

John

[Randall Flagg]

I don't like the "S", or the "T" at all:
Stephen King~SIGNED~Rose Madder~First edition first print 1st/1st Very Fine/New (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-SIGNED-Rose-Madder-First-edition-first-print-1st-1st-Very-Fine-New-/221207714165?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item338101d975)

[carlosdetweiller]

I don't like the "S", or the "T" at all:
Stephen King~SIGNED~Rose Madder~First edition first print 1st/1st Very Fine/New (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-SIGNED-Rose-Madder-First-edition-first-print-1st-1st-Very-Fine-New-/221207714165?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item338101d975)

Agree. The seller also has three other King books for sale currently on eBay and they are all forgeries. I'm no expert on Obama's signature but I'll bet that copy of DREAMS FROM MY FATHER is forged too.