The eBay BS Game: Questionable items, Stephen King signatures, sellers

[Stockerlone]

A&E 2012 Emmy Consideration DVD Set Stephen King´s Bag of Bones, Paul Simon, Storage Wars etc
http://www.ebay.de/itm/A-E-2012-Emmy-Consideration-DVD-Set-Stephen-King-Paul-Simon-Storage-Wars-Etc-/120911918194?pt=US_DVD_HD_DVD_Blu_ray&hash=item1c26e97472

[carbinworld]

Under the Dome by Stephen King (2009 Hardcover) SIGNED BY AUTHOR - 3 Day Auction

http://www.ebay.com/itm/120912588737?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

What do you think guys? I can't really afford to bid if it is fake, but I really want it if it is real ... if it is real, what is the most I should pay?

[carbinworld]

Hey guys, there is a listing on Ebay (tried to post link, but my post doesn't show), for:

Under the Dome by Stephen King (2009 Hardcover) SIGNED BY AUTHOR - 3 Day Auction

.... can anyone tell me if it is real?


OR

STEPHEN KING SIGNED THE GIRL WHO LOVED TOM GORDON WITH BONUS CARD SIGNED

.... I just wish I could spot a fake!

[Brice]

I just approved your other posts. :)

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Hey guys, there is a listing on Ebay (tried to post link, but my post doesn't show), for:

Under the Dome by Stephen King (2009 Hardcover) SIGNED BY AUTHOR - 3 Day Auction

.... can anyone tell me if it is real?


OR

STEPHEN KING SIGNED THE GIRL WHO LOVED TOM GORDON WITH BONUS CARD SIGNED

.... I just wish I could spot a fake!


UTD is real. Very nice that it comes with ticket and program.

The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon with Bonus Card is real also but a 2nd print....not a First Edition.

Hope this helps

Mulleins

[carbinworld]

Thank you so much for replying! I was nervous to bid after seeing all the negative (don't get me wrong, i NEED help with this) posts. One even referred to a seller that I have eyed several pieces from. My only signed one to-date is a limited Insomnia from Zeising, so I wanted help picking up my next. I placed a bid on this one (UTD), which is cool since I have an Overlook slipcase on its way :)

[carbinworld]

Thanks Brice! I'm new here & not used to posting here. I tried reading the rules regarding posting, just figured that I had done something wrong.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Thank you so much for replying! I was nervous to bid after seeing all the negative (don't get me wrong, i NEED help with this) posts. One even referred to a seller that I have eyed several pieces from. My only signed one to-date is a limited Insomnia from Zeising, so I wanted help picking up my next. I placed a bid on this one (UTD), which is cool since I have an Overlook slipcase on its way :)

No problem....glad to help. You are very wise to ask first. You've come to the right place, so please do not hesitate to contact any member on here and ask questions.

Mulleins

[Brice]

My pleasure! A new member's first few posts are moderated as a deterrent to spammers. After that you should have all the abilities of any member of the site. I believe you're there now. :)

[Patrick]

Welcome to TDT.org, cabinworld! Glad to see you here consulting the experts (of which I am not one) before delving into buying flatsigned King books. Make yourself at home and join in the discussions.

- Patrick

[sgc1999]

Bogus!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360458359593&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

[Thelangoleer]

thats just bad...

[Garrell]

Don't pick at my fake sig:frown1: lol, JK!!!

[mattgreenbean]

Is this good to bid on? The ink is blue and I saw other sigs from Bag of Bones UK 1/2000 in black ink.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/t9a375834z4am5l/%24%28KGrHqVHJEoE-luv7YrsBPqpcVT%29yw~~60_12.JPG

https://www.dropbox.com/s/b0czywrawa3ubvu/%24%28KGrHqJHJFEE-k-JDjY8BPqpjmBR-Q~~60_12.JPG

[ELazansky]

Is this good to bid on? The ink is blue and I saw other sigs from Bag of Bones UK 1/2000 in black ink.

http://us.mg6.mail.yahoo.com/ya/download?fid=Inbox&mid=2_0_0_1_1963125_AJHci2IAAV1xT7Fe4QIS9D59omQ&pid=2&tnef=&YY=1337024256632&file_name=%24(KGrHqVHJEoE-luv7YrsBPqpcVT)yw~~60_12.JPG&appid=YahooMailNeo

http://us.mg6.mail.yahoo.com/ya/download?fid=Inbox&mid=2_0_0_1_1963125_AJHci2IAAV1xT7Fe4QIS9D59omQ&pid=3&tnef=&YY=1337024256632&file_name=%24(KGrHqJHJFEE-k-JDjY8BPqpjmBR-Q~~60_12.JPG&appid=YahooMailNeo

Can't see your pictures...

[mattgreenbean]

Eric, I added links for the pictures.

Thanks

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

The official UK S/L Bag of Bones signatures were done in blue ink. The one you pictured is good.

[WeDealInLead]

Anyone remember madhatter? He changed his username to diamondbackcomicsandthings or something like that. He's the guy who'd run 24 hour auctions and always have private feedback. The only time it wasn't private was when he'd buy a SK lot and then slowly sell them as 'signed'. I messaged him saying I know these are fake, he either takes them down or I report him. He took one down but kept listing new bogus auctions. I told him I didn't want to ruin his collectable selling business, just wanted him to stop selling fake signatures. He kept listing, I kept reporting. I even bought a book and left him a negative feedback because it was a fake. I called eBay, complained, and gone, baby gone. No more madhatter. Got the boot from eBay. He has a new account though and the name escapes me, but it is him one million percent. He doesn't do private feedback anymore so I sent a quick message to a winner of one of the fake signatures. The man already suspected something was fishy, thanked me for reaffirming his suspicions and asked for a refund. Don;t know what happened after.

I almost felt like a jerk for getting him booted but when he re-registered, I quickly forgot about it.

[WeDealInLead]

found him: justbecausebooksandthings

No fake signatures since Cell, the one I wrote the buyer about

[ELazansky]

Is this good to bid on? The ink is blue and I saw other sigs from Bag of Bones UK 1/2000 in black ink.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/t9a375834z4am5l/%24%28KGrHqVHJEoE-luv7YrsBPqpcVT%29yw~~60_12.JPG

https://www.dropbox.com/s/b0czywrawa3ubvu/%24%28KGrHqJHJFEE-k-JDjY8BPqpjmBR-Q~~60_12.JPG

Looks good to me - my copy is in blue ink as well

[olverts]

There´s a seller on ebay : brennan2984 . I think he´s selling a lot of fakes .

But someone got fooled big time on this auction ( $250 for a Geralds Game HC Arc ) : http://www.ebay.com/itm/130689508272
Of course it´s their own fault for not knowing how much a book is worth .

The funny thing is that brennan bought the book a month earlier for $50 : http://www.ebay.com/itm/251042578876

[biomieg]

Yeah, I really HATE how he writes stuff like this:


GET THIS NOW - SUPER RARE


NOW $399

HUGE DROP STARTING PRICE $325

NOW $250!!! WOW NOW $225
LOW START $199 START - BUY IT NOW $250!!! SO RARE

He does it in all his auctions. Very annoying!!

[Brice]

I usually figure if someone has to say how rare something is more than once that it's not.

[jhanic]

I don't think this is legit:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/stephen-king-signed-wind-through-keyhole-2012-book-w-coa-/150817435378?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item231d6b6ef2

John

[Randall Flagg]

I think it is legit. It looks like to me King had it shoved in his face (so to speak), and signed at an angle. If you rotate the image, King's current cramped "knig" sic signature looks "perfect".

This image has been cropped and is ~200% or original size:

http://www.thedarktower.org/custom/images/1337205258-sig.jpg

[namelessnpoor]

I think it is legit. It looks like to me King had it shoved in his face (so to speak), and signed at an angle. If you rotate the image, King's current cramped "knig" sic signature looks "perfect".

This image has been cropped and is ~200% or original size:

http://www.thedarktower.org/custom/images/1337205258-sig.jpg


They have lowered the price by $400, they were originally asking $999 or best offer. I offered $300, since the sig is not so great but the book is rare signed. they countered with $800 and never went lower.

[Randall Flagg]

Keep in mind, other experts (I am not an expert, I just offered my less than expert thoughts...) should chime in. I wouldn't advise you to spend >$400 on this without at least two or other experts chiming in favoring the signature.

[AKC]

There was some elaborate dialogue regarding this signature at some point last week. Room 217 Caretaker (Ralph) and I were at odds regarding the legitimacy and many of you know I have the utmost respect for his opinion but, I simply do not like the signature.

Haven't since it first surfaced....still don't after having looked at it again.

If I recall correctly, I've seen this "signature" in previous eBay auctions on other King books. I may be wrong (have been once - rushed 11/22/63 Trade), but I wouldn't buy it.

If I had an extra $400+, I'd spend it elsewhere.

This is in my humble opinion of course....

[Randall Flagg]

I would not advise a person to buy it, but I (just my own opinion) am reticent to call it a forgery. I don't like it myself, and wouldn't buy it (ok, maybe for $9), but I won't call it bogus.

[sgc1999]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-GUNSLINGER-BORN-Dark-Tower-1st-FIRST-Rare-MARVEL-HC-FINE-A-/130697190911?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item1e6e28ddff

[Randall Flagg]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-GUNSLINGER-BORN-Dark-Tower-1st-FIRST-Rare-MARVEL-HC-FINE-A-/130697190911?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item1e6e28ddff
Signatures like this (silver flow pen-comic book etc.) are just almost impossible to validate...Not only that, but who here wants one?

[sgc1999]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-GUNSLINGER-BORN-Dark-Tower-1st-FIRST-Rare-MARVEL-HC-FINE-A-/130697190911?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item1e6e28ddff
Signatures like this (silver flow pen-comic book etc.) are just almost impossible to validate...Not only that, but who here wants one?

he has sold a lot of fakes. i noticed one time there was a comment made about an older book and it was stated that King reverses the loop in his g, which his book did not have. since then he has had sigs with the reversed g. However this signature does not fit the time of this book at all. We all know what kings sig looks like now:)

[Brice]

Best part of the auction though is the plot summary where he summarizes The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon instead of The Gunslinger Born. :lol:

[sgc1999]

LOL:) i missed that. I do have to give it to him. who ever has been doing his recent forgeries has gotten better. he still doesnt get the right sig for time periods though.

[EXPLORER]

I think it is legit. It looks like to me King had it shoved in his face (so to speak), and signed at an angle. If you rotate the image, King's current cramped "knig" sic signature looks "perfect".

This image has been cropped and is ~200% or original size:

http://www.thedarktower.org/custom/images/1337205258-sig.jpg

When the first one like this came up I was tempted to weight in (in fact perhaps I did make a comment about sportscard sellers selling sigs) however I did not say too much more however I was pretty sure the sig looked good BUT... I was under the impression and quite confident Mr. King was still in FL and these sellers claimed they got sigs elsewhere. I could not confirm Sai King was still here in FL until when I got a call from someone watching Red Sox vs Devil Rays game tonight spotted him on camera at the game inTampa.

[Randall Flagg]

http://thumbs2.ebaystatic.com/m/moaM5hv2Ac7-ICoFArEKOzw/140.jpg (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-8X10-PHOTO-AUTOGRAPHED-JSA-AUTH-RARE-AUTHENTICATED-HORROR-/220918123753?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item336fbf0ce9)STEPHEN KING SIGNED 8X10 PHOTO AUTOGRAPHED JSA AUTH RARE AUTHENTICATED HORROR (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-8X10-PHOTO-AUTOGRAPHED-JSA-AUTH-RARE-AUTHENTICATED-HORROR-/220918123753?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item336fbf0ce9)

[CRinVA]

I have no faith in JSA Authentication! :-) Never have!

[TwistedNadine]

Opinions on these two sigs please. The first one looks good to me but Im questioning the second one. Thanks!

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/Sig_1.JPG

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/Sig_2.JPG

[divemaster]

Both look authentic to me. Is the second one more recent?

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Both look suspect to me. I would need to see them in the full page.

[Randall Flagg]

I would need to see something to reference the scale (size of sig).

[Tito_Villa]

I don't like the pauses on the 1st & the g on the 2nd!

[sgc1999]

Opinions on these two sigs please. The first one looks good to me but Im questioning the second one. Thanks!

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/Sig_1.JPG

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/Sig_2.JPG

I have never seen a king signature with an open back or bottom in the p. never. I think there fake,both. My feeling.

[sgc1999]

in fact i would bet $500 dollars both are fake. Any takers? :) seriously if you study and other King sig you will never find one even close really looking at them. Just trying to help.

[killbourne]

I don't like the pauses on the 1st & the g on the 2nd!

Agreed. I really dont like either signature.

IMO, Room 217 caretaker always has the final say on such a situation.

[sgc1999]

:)

[sgc1999]

I hope he says what he doesnt like about them.
I would love to learn more about what to look for in King fakes. I have been trying to do research and looking at as many sigs as possible so as to never get burned again! it sucks!

[mistercrowley]

Just buy S/L's it makes life a lot easier

[Randall Flagg]

FWIW, I think the sigs are legit, but need to see the scale to endorse. Right now I can only say maybe

[sgc1999]

the only way i would believe that top sig was real is if it was signed when King was in the hospital on heavy drugs and he had to keep stopping to think about how to spell his name :)

[stkmw02]

Keep in mind I am no expert on King's signature... but I do have some experience with identifying forged signatures (as a teacher, I get 'em all the time on tests and detention slips!) The first to me looks like a tracing job, based on the areas the ink seems to "pool" from a hesitating hand before moving on to the next letter. Also, the ink doesn't "thin" at the right places in the letters, indicating the pen was not held at a natural angle or moved at a natural speed. That first one to me seems fake for those reasons. (Especially that loop from the "n" that doesn't quite curve smoothly, suggesting that too was traced).

The second, I cannot say. The ink doesn't give anything away and I'm not familiar enough with the "real deal" to say it isn't legit.

[sgc1999]

Keep in mind I am no expert on King's signature... but I do have some experience with identifying forged signatures (as a teacher, I get 'em all the time on tests and detention slips!) The first to me looks like a tracing job, based on the areas the ink seems to "pool" from a hesitating hand before moving on to the next letter. Also, the ink doesn't "thin" at the right places in the letters, indicating the pen was not held at a natural angle or moved at a natural speed. That first one to me seems fake for those reasons. (Especially that loop from the "n" that doesn't quite curve smoothly, suggesting that too was traced).

The second, I cannot say. The ink doesn't give anything away and I'm not familiar enough with the "real deal" to say it isn't legit.

I would say thats a very good analasys. good eye.

[TwistedNadine]

The "tells" that it may be traced is really cool. I would not have looked for that. But you're right - theres ink blotches in strange places. Thats why I love this site - always learn something new. Heres the pages to see the positioning and size. Thank you all! Nothing worse then spending good money on bad books.

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/DSC026801.JPG
http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/DSC026811.JPG

[killbourne]

They really look fake now...lol.

I think I looked at this book...I was really pissed off that they were offering a fake signed CELL...Ive been looking for a signed CELL for years now.

[bdwyer19]

The "tells" that it may be traced is really cool. I would not have looked for that. But you're right - theres ink blotches in strange places. Thats why I love this site - always learn something new. Heres the pages to see the positioning and size. Thank you all! Nothing worse then spending good money on bad books.

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/DSC026801.JPG
http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/DSC026811.JPG

Did you get those screenshots of the books from DMB, via AbeBooks? They sent me the pictures of the same Cell signature about a month ago - I just found the same image in my emails. Do not buy from them!! Their SK signatures are ridiculously bad!

[sgc1999]

who is this clown???
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Liseys-Story-Signed-by-Stephen-King-1st-Edition-Certificate-of-Authenticity-/130699660223?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item1e6e4e8bbf

[Randall Flagg]

who is this clown???
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Liseys-Story-Signed-by-Stephen-King-1st-Edition-Certificate-of-Authenticity-/130699660223?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item1e6e4e8bbf
A bonafide seller with a (2830) 100% rating. Must be legit....

[jhanic]

At least, at that price, I doubt anyone will ever buy it.

John

[Hutch]

Opinions on these two sigs please. The first one looks good to me but Im questioning the second one. Thanks!

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/Sig_1.JPG

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/Sig_2.JPG

They are both fake in this man's humble opinion.

[Merlin1958]

who is this clown???
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Liseys-Story-Signed-by-Stephen-King-1st-Edition-Certificate-of-Authenticity-/130699660223?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item1e6e4e8bbf

Talk about "Delusions of Grandeur"!!!!!


:smile_002:

[Dan]

I picked this up today at a used bookstore for $6.50. It is a first edition in fine condition with brodart cover already on it. I then opened up to find a convincing Matheson signature, but don't know who the second one is. What's the opinion? Does Matheson look good? Anyone know the second?

http://www.danandjessie.com/pictures/IMG_9007s.jpg

http://www.danandjessie.com/pictures/IMG_9009s.jpg

[Merlin1958]

I picked this up today at a used bookstore for $6.50. It is a first edition in fine condition with brodart cover already on it. I then opened up to find a convincing Matheson signature, but don't know who the second one is. What's the opinion? Does Matheson look good? Anyone know the second?

http://www.danandjessie.com/pictures/IMG_9007s.jpg

http://www.danandjessie.com/pictures/IMG_9009s.jpg

I have no clue on the author sig, but did an Artist illustrate it?

[Dan]

OK, I have found that google is my friend. The top signature is Richard Matheson, author of I Am Legend, etc. The bottom signature is Richard Christian Matheson, author of this book and son of Richard Matheson. They look authentic to my unqualified eyes.

[Merlin1958]

OK, I have found that google is my friend. The top signature is Richard Matheson, author of I Am Legend, etc. The bottom signature is Richard Christian Matheson, author of this book and son of Richard Matheson. They look authentic to my unqualified eyes.

Very Cool!!!! Congrats!!!

[AKC]

Opinions on these two sigs please. The first one looks good to me but Im questioning the second one. Thanks!


They are both fake in this man's humble opinion.

Top one is traced, bottom one sucks dog balls.....

[Merlin1958]

Opinions on these two sigs please. The first one looks good to me but Im questioning the second one. Thanks!


They are both fake in this man's humble opinion.

Top one is traced, bottom one sucks dog balls.....

Eloquent and succinct, I like that!!!!

[sgc1999]

If those sigs were an actual dog they would be a cross betweeen a bulldog and a shitzu. that is, a bullshit:)

[Patrick]

:lol: Good one.

[tippy4]

Signed Lisey's Story for $4,400 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Liseys-Story-Signed-by-Stephen-King-1st-Edition-Certificate-of-Authenticity-/130699660223?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item1e6e4e8bbf&autorefresh=true#ht_634wt_940)

Holy shit this is bad!

[Garrell]

Signed Lisey's Story for $4,400 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Liseys-Story-Signed-by-Stephen-King-1st-Edition-Certificate-of-Authenticity-/130699660223?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item1e6e4e8bbf&autorefresh=true#ht_634wt_940)

Holy shit this is bad!
Bah, that is sooooo real that I feel the need to send him an offer of $4000...just waiting for the monkey to fly out of my ass:)

[TwistedNadine]

OK, I have found that google is my friend. The top signature is Richard Matheson, author of I Am Legend, etc. The bottom signature is Richard Christian Matheson, author of this book and son of Richard Matheson. They look authentic to my unqualified eyes.

Nice grab for only 6.50!

[TwistedNadine]

"Did you get those screenshots of the books from DMB, via AbeBooks? They sent me the pictures of the same Cell signature about a month ago - I just found the same image in my emails. Do not buy from them!! Their SK signatures are ridiculously bad!"

Yep - thats the seller. Thanks for the heads up. I had to check it out 'cause he had the cheapest listed on Abe and now I know why.

BTW thank you all for the input. Very much appreciated

[Brice]

Dan, that's an incredibly nice find for that price. :)

[Dan]

Thanks Merlin, TwistedNadine and Brice!

[darkdiscoveries]

I picked this up today at a used bookstore for $6.50. It is a first edition in fine condition with brodart cover already on it. I then opened up to find a convincing Matheson signature, but don't know who the second one is. What's the opinion? Does Matheson look good? Anyone know the second?

http://www.danandjessie.com/pictures/IMG_9007s.jpg

http://www.danandjessie.com/pictures/IMG_9009s.jpg

I have no clue on the author sig, but did an Artist illustrate it?

That looks like both Richard Matheson Sr. and R.C. 's signature to me as well. I have a couple of signed things by them each and RC is usually kind of sloppy like that (LOL)!

Nice score for $6.50!!! Rich Sr. is not able to sign things anymore due to his health. The last book I got from Gauntlet (Nightmare at 20,000 Feet - that was actually a contributor's copy for helping with it in a small way) was only initialed by him and that's the way they are supposed to be from now on is my understanding. So his signature will become more collectible as time goes on i'm sure.

- James
http://darkdiscoveries.com

[Dan]

Thanks for that update DarkDiscoveries. I didn't know that about Sr.

[sgc1999]

This one actually made me laugh out loud.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Drawing-of-the-Three-by-Stephen-King-1989-Book-Illustrated-Signed-/360460949524?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item53ed259814

[Jimimck]

That one is soooo bad. Gotta love a tryer...

[Fsmdr]

This book looks like the seller wrapped it with kitchen plastic food wrap!. That's certainly not original shrinkwrap.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-The-Dark-Tower-THE-GUNSLINGER-First-Edition-/221031937299?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item337687b513

[TwistedNadine]

Thats so funny.

[Brice]

Or else they saran wrapped it and stuck it in a microwave for a few seconds. LOL

[Ivo]

I sent a email asking him how he knrw it was a 1st edition, he replied that he bought the book from a book store and that he wrapped it himself to protect it. This same seller had a waste lands s/l I think it was #609 it was starting at 500.00 and had a bin for 750.00 but its gone now.

[Niels]

Any ideas on this one? I don't question it, but I'm not an expert.
Don't see any hesitations, but a black felt pen...........?

http://fotos.marktplaats.com/kopen/c/d4/qp59MIb3W344oQBqEFBCvg==.jpg

It's a 1st/1st UK On Writing and seller claims it's signed at a writers' seminar.

http://fotos.marktplaats.com/kopen/e/64/ezNxfG2HzOtgXj/gy3VcmQ==.jpg

[Merlin1958]

Well. I'm no expert either, but the loop in the "G" doesn't look right and the same for the "EPH" portion of his sig. However, I would wait on the more qualified members to pass judgement.

[frik]

Wouldn't call myself a qualified member, but this one doesn't look right to me.
The K's off, plus, like said in the previous post, the loop in the G doesn't look quite right.

sk

[Tito_Villa]

I don't like it either, not at all

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Somebody ruined a Lettered Edition. Check the forged sig on this one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Psychos-Signed-Lettered-Traycased-Ed-Robert-Bloch-Signed-Stephen-King-/200767541891?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item2ebead9283#ht_500wt_922

[Brice]

:cry:

[Jimimck]

This one is just awful.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/360460949284#ht_500wt_922

[jhanic]

This one is just awful.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/360460949284#ht_500wt_922

And a newbie eBayer bid on it!

John

[sgc1999]

ouch!

[Fsmdr]

Fake to me. Opinions?.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SIGNED-1st-1st-HCDJ-1980-FIRESTARTER-by-Stephen-King-dated-and-inscribed-/300688945737?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item4602753249

[Patrick]

I would have thought that was authentic if I ran across it, but I'm a rank amateur at this.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

That's a fake. No doubts.

[frik]

Looks fine to me...

sk

[Randall Flagg]

I think we need Hutch or Bob to comment on this one.
I have compared the signature to a known King signature from the same year. I did rotate the ebay image so that the sigs were roughly parallel.
Looking at them side by side the Ebay one looks different, but similar. Either way @ $400+ I wouldn't buy the book.

http://www.thedarktower.org/custom/images/1338224977-Presentation1.jpg

[Brice]

Ummm....that inscription on the left looks like it says: For Ricky- with lust. :unsure:

[EXPLORER]

Ummm....that inscription on the left looks like it says: For Ricky- with lust. :unsure:
1980.... (the don't ask year ?)

[Brice]

:lol:


Don't tell Tabby!

[frik]

My collegue's wife is called Ricky!

sk

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Fake to me. Opinions?.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SIGNED-1st-1st-HCDJ-1980-FIRESTARTER-by-Stephen-King-dated-and-inscribed-/300688945737?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item4602753249

I don't like the signature. A few things stand out but mostly, look at the angle of the date. I know in the study picture below I selected a known good signature from 5 years later but I'm not trying to compare the signatures but the angle of the date. The angle of the Firestarter date is wrong. It doesn't line up with the signature. King's signature flows and if he dates it, his penmanship flows into the date with the same angle. In this case, it's wrong.

Again, I don't like it.

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/668/King_Signature.png

Mulleins

[Patrick]

That's a good catch, Ralph. The angles don't match up.

I've been to signings where I've asked an author to date the book right after they sign it and start to take their hand away. Maybe King moved his hand before dating it? Just curious, how do you feel about the rest of it?

[jhanic]

This looks fake to me:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/stephen-king-signed-the-wind-through-the-keyhole-2012-book-w-coa-/160812164344?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item257126e4f8

John

[Merlin1958]

This looks fake to me:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/stephen-king-signed-the-wind-through-the-keyhole-2012-book-w-coa-/160812164344?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item257126e4f8

John

Yep. Never buy from a "Unknown" Car Salesman!!!! LOL LOL LOL

[AKC]

Fake.......

Same eBay Seller sold similar fake ones in the past......

Stay away.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

This looks fake to me:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/stephen-king-signed-the-wind-through-the-keyhole-2012-book-w-coa-/160812164344?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item257126e4f8

John

Yes! That is a very poor attempt at a forgery. Fake.

Mulleins

[Johnny007]

I don't get a chance to come here much right now but I did see this piece of crap on Ebay and sent him/her a note. Too late to expect much but I'll try to watch for this seller in the future.

There has to be a way to get Ebay to weed these crooks out. It ruins this hobby/business greatly and prevents would-be collectors from really pursuing the books they want....imho


This looks fake to me:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/stephen-king-signed-the-wind-through-the-keyhole-2012-book-w-coa-/160812164344?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item257126e4f8

John

Yes! That is a very poor attempt at a forgery. Fake.

Mulleins

[frik]

This looks fake to me:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/stephen-king-signed-the-wind-through-the-keyhole-2012-book-w-coa-/160812164344?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item257126e4f8

John

Bidding has ended on this item.

sk

[jhanic]

Interesting! I hope he didn't sell it!

John

[tippy4]

"Signed" Bag of Bones (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bag-of-Bones-Autographed-by-Stephen-King-1999-Hardcover-/170854700710?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item27c7bbd6a6#ht_500wt_1188)

[jhanic]

"Signed" Bag of Bones (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bag-of-Bones-Autographed-by-Stephen-King-1999-Hardcover-/170854700710?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item27c7bbd6a6#ht_500wt_1188)

I don't like it.

John

[WeDealInLead]

Guys, scroll up to my last post. THAT is the guy I was talking about.

[sgc1999]

where is your last post?

[WeDealInLead]

where is your last post?

I copied it here again. It was a few pages back:

Anyone remember madhatter? He changed his username to diamondbackcomicsandthings or something like that. He's the guy who'd run 24 hour auctions and always have private feedback. The only time it wasn't private was when he'd buy a SK lot and then slowly sell them as 'signed'. I messaged him saying I know these are fake, he either takes them down or I report him. He took one down but kept listing new bogus auctions. I told him I didn't want to ruin his collectable selling business, just wanted him to stop selling fake signatures. He kept listing, I kept reporting. I even bought a book and left him a negative feedback because it was a fake. I called eBay, complained, and gone, baby gone. No more madhatter. Got the boot from eBay. He has a new account though and the name escapes me, but it is him one million percent. He doesn't do private feedback anymore so I sent a quick message to a winner of one of the fake signatures. The man already suspected something was fishy, thanked me for reaffirming his suspicions and asked for a refund. Don;t know what happened after.

I almost felt like a jerk for getting him booted but when he re-registered, I quickly forgot about it.

found him: justbecausebooksandthings

No fake signatures since Cell, the one I wrote the buyer about

[neosatus]

where is your last post?

I copied it here again. It was a few pages back:

Anyone remember madhatter? He changed his username to diamondbackcomicsandthings or something like that. He's the guy who'd run 24 hour auctions and always have private feedback. The only time it wasn't private was when he'd buy a SK lot and then slowly sell them as 'signed'. I messaged him saying I know these are fake, he either takes them down or I report him. He took one down but kept listing new bogus auctions. I told him I didn't want to ruin his collectable selling business, just wanted him to stop selling fake signatures. He kept listing, I kept reporting. I even bought a book and left him a negative feedback because it was a fake. I called eBay, complained, and gone, baby gone. No more madhatter. Got the boot from eBay. He has a new account though and the name escapes me, but it is him one million percent. He doesn't do private feedback anymore so I sent a quick message to a winner of one of the fake signatures. The man already suspected something was fishy, thanked me for reaffirming his suspicions and asked for a refund. Don;t know what happened after.

I almost felt like a jerk for getting him booted but when he re-registered, I quickly forgot about it.

found him: justbecausebooksandthings

No fake signatures since Cell, the one I wrote the buyer about

That's wonderful that you're doing that--mad props to you sir.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

If we voted on worse forged King of the year, this one would be right up there in nominations for 2012

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1st-EDITION-AND-SIGNED-STEPHEN-KINGS-INSOMNIA-AWESOME-CONDITION-/190690086921?_trksid=m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D3%26po%3D LVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D9070313461383346088&_qi=RTM1084479#ht_4479wt_922

Mulleins

[Brice]

Wow!

[jhanic]

That one is terrible!

John

[Niall]

A good way of getting at these forgers is to set up a fake ebay account and bid $1million on a book, that way nobody will out bid you. I seen people do this for the free live aid concert tickets a few years ago, Some shamless gits tried selling these free tickets to a charity event.

[bdwyer19]

Any opinions on this signature? I don't like it, but I'm hardly an expert.

The seller has six different signed SK books as well.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hand-SIGNED-STEPHEN-KING-Hardcover-1st-Ed-1st-Pr-Bag-of-Bones-Book-/160822467104?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item2571c41a20#ht_1442wt_1219

[carlosdetweiller]

Any opinions on this signature? I don't like it, but I'm hardly an expert.

The seller has six different signed SK books as well.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hand-SIGNED-STEPHEN-KING-Hardcover-1st-Ed-1st-Pr-Bag-of-Bones-Book-/160822467104?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item2571c41a20#ht_1442wt_1219

They are all forgeries.

[Randall Flagg]

Without a higher resolution picture I myself wouldn't even consider buying that book for $1

[Dan]

This really irritates me. I mean, seriously?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Colorado-Kid-by-Stephen-King-2005-Paperback-/150802008945?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item231c800b71

[carbinworld]

That's toooo funny!

[Ben Staad]

Right underneath the picture it says this:

Have one to sell?
Sell it yourself$5.00Avg

LOL!

[Jimimck]

HAHAHA
I was looking for a fake signature or something that warranted that price tag lol!

Offered him $1. Lets see what is reply is.

**EDIT** LOL $94 counter offer. Lets Try $.50c

[Dan]

I don't think you can pass on that for only $94. :)

[Stockerlone]

A ´signed´ Thinner:arg:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Buch-signiert-signed-book-Stephen-King-/261051418190?pt=Belletristik&hash=item3cc7e0864e

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

That was Stephen King's German brother who signed that!

[Stockerlone]

That was Stephen King's German brother who signed that!

DRUNKEN and Blind brother:cool2:

[carbinworld]

I took a gamble & made a deal with the seller on this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&item=261052316504&nma=true&rt=nc&si=negAdrc844Y9FCWQ%252BWImYeRz%252BSU%253D&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

... does it look real? Was it worth $59? Any ideas?

[Randall Flagg]

I think the letter and sig are legit.

[carbinworld]

RF, thanks for your lightning quick reply :) What do you think about the price? Did I over-pay for a sig?

[Randall Flagg]

I would wait to hear from others before you get too excited, but $59 for a King sig on a form letter is IMO, a decent price.

[carbinworld]

DEFINITELY not too excited, more worried that I spent too much. I will be more than happy as long as it was a reasonable deal (since that will only make #3 for a sig).

[carlosdetweiller]

I don't recall all the details but wasn't the real signature on a special card or book mark? And the letter is a facsimile signature? I've got that set at home and can check later. Maybe he did some one way and some the other.

[sentinel]

Sorry, the letter is a facsimile. Bob is right, there was a bookmark or a postcard included that had a real signature, usually in blue pen.
I've got the set too.

[carbinworld]

At least it was only $59 :)

[tippy4]

Just found this discussion.....

I saw this auction on Saturday and I contacted the seller and told him the letter was a copy.

The letter CLEARLY states that the enclosed "flyer" has the real signature.

Seller said he never got the "flyer" (really a bookmark).

I told the seller it was worthless without the original signature.

Here is what the "flyer" (bookmark) looks like:

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1761/cardqic.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/233/cardqic.jpg/)

Sorry...you got taken...from a seller who was told he was selling shit.

Here is my entire conversation:


Dear tippy4,

Thanks.



Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 13:41:00 -0700
From:
To:
Subject: Re: Other: tippy4 sent a message about Black House by Peter Straub and Stephen King (2001, Hardcover) SIGNED!! #261052316504



Dear amerturk,

Without a REAL signature.....it's mostly worthless.

Check your book...maybe the flyer is in it?????

If you send me your email adress....i can send u a picture of the flyer.

- tippy4


From: amerturk
To: tippy4
Subject: Re: Other: tippy4 sent a message about Black House by Peter Straub and Stephen King (2001, Hardcover) SIGNED!! #261052316504
Sent Date: Jun-23-12 13:34:49 PDT

Dear tippy4,

Thanks again for the info. I just assumed the letter was the enclosed flyer. Do you think the price is too high? If so, what do you think is a fair price for this. I'm only asking because it appears you are better informed on these then myself.

Kind Regards,

- amerturk


From: tippy4
To: amerturk
Subject: Re: Other: tippy4 sent a message about Black House by Peter Straub and Stephen King (2001, Hardcover) SIGNED!! #261052316504
Sent Date: Jun-23-12 13:26:39 PDT

Dear amerturk,

The letter calls the bookmark "the enclosed flyer".

Shame you did not get that.

- tippy4


From: amerturk
To: tippy4
Subject: Re: Other: tippy4 sent a message about Black House by Peter Straub and Stephen King (2001, Hardcover) SIGNED!! #261052316504
Sent Date: Jun-23-12 11:56:28 PDT

Dear tippy4,

Thanks for the information. I never received a bookmark. The book was shipped in a paper mailer btw which I thought was odd because it was from his wife written by hand (on the mailer).

- amerturk


From: tippy4
To: amerturk
Subject: Other: tippy4 sent a message about Black House by Peter Straub and Stephen King (2001, Hardcover) SIGNED!! #261052316504
Sent Date: Jun-23-12 11:53:53 PDT

Dear amerturk,

The signature on the letter is not an original...I have the exact same letter.

However, King should have included a card with the letter that looks like a book mark. THAT has an original signature on it.

- tippy4

[carbinworld]

Tippy,

Thanks for adding that! I was on the fence about this; I haven't yet sent my PayPal money. Until you sent this I was fully prepared to send him the $59, I knew it wasn't "signed in ink" as he described it, but figured it was an honest mistake on his part, so I was going to pay. Now I know otherwise. Screw him, I just sent him a message telling him that I wasn't paying for that. The money wouldn't break me, but he pissed me off! Not knowing & selling is one thing, but knowing he had misrepresented this and not pulling the auction isn't cool at all. I guess he'll be the pissed off one now!

[stkmw02]

If he has been contacted and chose to continue the auction anyway, you should also see if there's a way to warn the other interested bidders/buyers. Usually if the winner/buyer declines, the seller will either re-list or contact a runner up. Perhaps we can save someone else the $59 too??

[carbinworld]

He replied to my "cancellation" while I was driving to work. Boy was he pissed off! He will probably try to re-list, I'm gonna keep a watch on him. If he does, I will notify Ebay if his auction text is misleading in any way. I would have been OK if he had put in some kind of disclaimer after Tippy notified him. Tippy probably wasn't the only one. If he had said "may be facsimile signature" it would have been one thing, but "signed in black ink" was innacurate & he knew that Saturday at the latest. I was going to just suck it up & pay, but not after finding out that he had a chance to change his wording but choose not to. Caveat Emptor. Thanks to all here for saving me $59 :)

[shnnrc01]

i bought the S/L 11/22/63 when it was released in November and have yet to receive it !!! i think the member is waiting for me to collect it in the flesh!

[stkmw02]

Ouch. I would definitely remind the seller you've paid for the item and politely ask when you might expect it, or request a refund if you're tired of waiting. If there hasn't been much/any communication between the purchase and now, there might have just been a misunderstanding?? Hopefully that can get resolved!

[tippy4]

Tippy,

Thanks for adding that! I was on the fence about this; I haven't yet sent my PayPal money. Until you sent this I was fully prepared to send him the $59, I knew it wasn't "signed in ink" as he described it, but figured it was an honest mistake on his part, so I was going to pay. Now I know otherwise. Screw him, I just sent him a message telling him that I wasn't paying for that. The money wouldn't break me, but he pissed me off! Not knowing & selling is one thing, but knowing he had misrepresented this and not pulling the auction isn't cool at all. I guess he'll be the pissed off one now!

And now the seller just emailed me and told me to go and fuck myself.

Hope you did not tell him it was me.

[Ben Staad]

Tippy,

Thanks for adding that! I was on the fence about this; I haven't yet sent my PayPal money. Until you sent this I was fully prepared to send him the $59, I knew it wasn't "signed in ink" as he described it, but figured it was an honest mistake on his part, so I was going to pay. Now I know otherwise. Screw him, I just sent him a message telling him that I wasn't paying for that. The money wouldn't break me, but he pissed me off! Not knowing & selling is one thing, but knowing he had misrepresented this and not pulling the auction isn't cool at all. I guess he'll be the pissed off one now!

And now the seller just emailed me and told me to go and fuck myself.

Hope you did not tell him it was me.

Ouch! Sounds like a pleasant fellow.

[stkmw02]

I could contact eBay customer service to report the seller and the listing. The listing is a fraudulent item, as it is not accurately described. The seller did not disclose all information regarding the item. The seller has now engaged in harassment against another eBay member. Since you did not BUY the item, you have no option to leave negative feedback. BUT carbinworld, you should certainly leave honest feedback for others to read.

[bdwyer19]

I could use some opinions on this signature please. I think it's legit, but just want to make sure. Also, $200 for a signed Pet Sematary with the dj in VG condition at best. Is that a good deal?

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1371/petsematary.jpg

[Randall Flagg]

$200 for a VG+ Pet Sematary signed by King is a good price-IF the sig is not only legit, but consistent with King's signature at the time of release. It would be even more if dated close to the (believed to be) November 14, 1983 release.
I won't render an opinion on the sig-I have to go look up King's sig from that era.

[carlosdetweiller]

I have some reservations about that PET SEMATARY signature. I don't think I like it but would really like to see a larger picture if possible. My initial gut response is negative.

[bdwyer19]

Thanks Jerome and Bob. That was the signature I got from the seller (Raptis Rare Books). I originally asked for multiple photos, but they simply provided the one from their website.

[Shannon]

"i bought the S/L 11/22/63 when it was released in November and have yet to receive it !!!"

W-H-A-T? No way.

[TwistedNadine]

i bought the S/L 11/22/63 when it was released in November and have yet to receive it !!! i think the member is waiting for me to collect it in the flesh!

Theres gotta be a story behind that one. Although might belong in SELLERS to avoid ....

[AKC]

I don't like it either.....

[Patrick]

i bought the S/L 11/22/63 when it was released in November and have yet to receive it !!! i think the member is waiting for me to collect it in the flesh!

Theres gotta be a story behind that one. Although might belong in SELLERS to avoid ....

Yes, that would be the proper thread. Thanks, Crazy Eyes.

[mosheprigan]

Hi SAGED & SAVANTS FOLKS
My first time here, follow very close your useful comments in this awwsome cool site.I'm from ISRAEL. I'm afraid SK is NOT collectible here besides me. I try to "recruit" my 2 friends to this hobby. I'm very well aware to some eBayers trying to kill our job. I've been stung by some Italian scoundrel who faked Umberto Eco's sig ("The Name of the Rose"). Since then I'm the most cautious collector you ever met: I ask plenty questions, buy only from trustfull known buyers, ask other saged guys (like you) about the seller, don't trust at all eBay feedback, even don't care about it as it may be simply rubbish. For example, what is your take on that: http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-WIND-THROUGH-THE-KEYHOLE-DARK-TOWER-FIRST-1st-MINT-NEW-A-/140784268432?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item20c7657490
Seller's name is : brennan2984. Is the sig legit?
Thanks guys, welcome me to your "laps".
MOSHE PRIGAN
ISRAEL

[Tito_Villa]

Hey Moshe, welcome to the site! Personally i have reservations about that signature, and i would never buy off of that guy ... i've seen him sell loads of fakes in the past!

[Robert Fulman]

Yes, I would recommend staying away from the seller too. He seems to be able to acquire a steady stream of autographs that he is somehow able to sell at very low prices.

He has purchased from me before, and then relisted the items with unbelievably false descriptions (specifically about condition), but his buyers never seem to complain.

[stkmw02]

It even looks as though there's a question mark at the end of the signature! :lol:

[TwistedNadine]

Hey Moshe, welcome to the site! Personally i have reservations about that signature, and i would never buy off of that guy ... i've seen him sell loads of fakes in the past!

Agreed. He sells too many fakes to be credible.

[carlosdetweiller]

I looked at that one earlier this morning and thought it was fake. Like others I have a very low opinion of this seller.

[biomieg]

I've said it before but I absolutely LOATHE his descriptions with all the in-your-face fonts, exclamations, hyperboles.... he's all but shoving the book down your throat.

[Patrick]

Welcome to TDT.org, mosheprigan! Always happy to meet another SK fan. I admire the diligence it must take to be a collector in some parts of the world. Please continue to join in the discussions!

- Patrick

[mosheprigan]

Thank you so much Patrick,Tito_Villa and all the good other guys for the welcome and the help. I even dared to ask this seller where did he get this copy from and he answered:" i buy all my books from supercollectors. i got this one from a lady named sue". Never ever heard of this SUPER collector, did you????. It's beyond doubt that my super ones are only collectors like YOU, in fact two of you, very known trustful guys, sold me lately signed US ed. copies of TWTTKH, backed by verified explanations without the "help" of eBay feedbacks (though some of them are real) or COA's, intended to blur our eyes.
MOSHE

[namelessnpoor]

Thank you so much Patrick,Tito_Villa and all the good other guys for the welcome and the help. I even dared to ask this seller where did he get this copy from and he answered:" i buy all my books from supercollectors. i got this one from a lady named sue". Never ever heard of this SUPER collector, did you????. It's beyond doubt that my super ones are only collectors like YOU, in fact two of you, very known trustful guys, sold me lately signed US ed. copies of TWTTKH, backed by verified explanations without the "help" of eBay feedbacks (though some of them are real) or COA's, intended to blur our eyes.
MOSHE

I bought one book from them, but it was not a signed book, it was a very inexpensive book that i just wanted. Nothng special and i got it cheap so i was fine with that. But every signe dbook i have seenthem sell appears to be fake. I would not buy it. I have enquired about several of the signed books and they say the same thing evey time, that they got them from "Sue". Last time i believe i was told that they had purchased a large collection from this lady with lots od signed copies, that she had sold her whole collection........so if thats true how come she now has a signed copy of the newest book that is Very hard to come by !!! Something fishy I would stay away !!!

As a side note, ever since purchasing that one book, i now get repeated emails from that selller advertising thier most recent ebay auctions of King stuff...so basically being spammed through ebay messages....not even sure if thats legal per ebay rules !

[Robert Fulman]

If I recall correctly, "Sue" lives in Bangor, Maine and she was down on her luck so Stephen King signed a bunch of books (hundreds, apparently) to help her out.

[namelessnpoor]

If I recall correctly, "Sue" lives in Bangor, Maine and she was down on her luck so Stephen King signed a bunch of books (hundreds, apparently) to help her out.

I belive that is what I was told also, wish he would do that for me ! I am not down on my luck and I would not sell them, he could be nice and just make my collection awesome!

[Brice]

From King's current financial perspaective we are ALL down on our luck. :( He should sign all our books for us too since he seems to have done so for Sue. LOL

[TwistedNadine]

I have enquired about several of the signed books and they say the same thing evey time, that they got them from "Sue".

They did get them from Sue. She's their highest paid forger.

[tippy4]

Hi Moshe,

Yes I agree with the others here....that seller MOSTLY sells fakes...but he sells a few real autographs from time to time just to keep people guessing I think.

I suggest you stay away from him (or her).

Rick

[tippy4]

STEPHEN KING SIGNED ROSE MADDER~FIRST ED./HC/DJ (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-ROSE-MADDER-FIRST-ED-HC-DJ-/110906000474?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item19d283445a)

CRAP

[TwistedNadine]

STEPHEN KING SIGNED ROSE MADDER~FIRST ED./HC/DJ (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-ROSE-MADDER-FIRST-ED-HC-DJ-/110906000474?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item19d283445a)

CRAP

He's another seller that specializes in forgeries

[carlosdetweiller]

STEPHEN KING SIGNED ROSE MADDER~FIRST ED./HC/DJ (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-ROSE-MADDER-FIRST-ED-HC-DJ-/110906000474?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item19d283445a)

CRAP

He's another seller that specializes in forgeries

Yep. He's been around for a long time. I don't recall ever seeing him sell a genuine King signature.

[Brice]

That's an impressive record. Surely he's accidentally sold at least one legitimate one. LOL

[Merlin1958]

Specifically, can the experts detail the issues? Just as a "teaching" exercise.

[WeDealInLead]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Eyes-of-the-Dragon-Signed-Copy-by-Stephen-King-1987-Hardcover-/170868664188?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item27c890e77c

my pal maddhatter at it again.

[Merlin1958]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Eyes-of-the-Dragon-Signed-Copy-by-Stephen-King-1987-Hardcover-/170868664188?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item27c890e77c

my pal maddhatter at it again.

I'm no expert, but that looks AWFUL!!!!

[WeDealInLead]

Man, it's from the Feline Foundation, it's legit.

edit: I wonder how many times does an item need to be reported to be taken down by eBay. I just did it once.

[mosheprigan]

Hi Rick
How are you, dear friend? Thanks for the note. Your'e my new SK trustworthy, recently added to some other I already have.
Moshe

[mosheprigan]

Hi everybody
What's your take on this one, sig+price. Scroll down to see the pics + expl. Thanks guys.:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-WIND-THROUGH-THE-KEYHOLE-A-Dark-Tower-Novel-SIGNED-BY-STEPHEN-KING-1st-/271006935894?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item3f1945ab56

[mattgreenbean]

Another bad ETD

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Eyes-Dragon-Stephen-King-1987-Hardcover-AUTOGRAPHED-First-Ed-/370625737349?_trksid=p4340.m1982&_trkparms=aid%3D555001%26algo%3DPW.CURRENT%26ao%3D 1%26asc%3D7%26meid%3D235265983940387543%26pid%3D10 0009%26prg%3D1004%26rk%3D4%26

[shnnrc01]

no story behind it .paid for the book in november and am "patiently" waiting. lots of pm's sent, i kinda pleaded and grovelled a bit in the last few messages but to no avail. maybe i've lost my charm.

[Tito_Villa]

Name & shame?

[Randall Flagg]

Specifically, can the experts detail the issues? Just as a "teaching" exercise.
Grasshopper, you must first learn to read and write-in cursive before things of this nature become clear to you.:
Remember:
Every master was once a novice.
It is better to spend three years looking for a good master than ten years "learning" with a bad one.

[TwistedNadine]

no story behind it .paid for the book in november and am "patiently" waiting. lots of pm's sent, i kinda pleaded and grovelled a bit in the last few messages but to no avail. maybe i've lost my charm.

Do you want to borrow some of my Italian New York Bitch Attitude? Doesnt always work but you DO always feel better afterward

[Merlin1958]

Specifically, can the experts detail the issues? Just as a "teaching" exercise.
Grasshopper, you must first learn to read and write-in cursive before things of this nature become clear to you.:
Remember:
Every master was once a novice.
It is better to spend three years looking for a good master than ten years "learning" with a bad one.

LOL LOL Grasshopper, huh? Tell you what RF, you'd look pretty silly spouting that stuff when your sticking to the bottom of my shoe!!! LOL LOL And you know I ain't joshing about my ability to do so!! LOL LOL LOL :emot-roflolmao:

Very clever though!!!!

[Merlin1958]

no story behind it .paid for the book in november and am "patiently" waiting. lots of pm's sent, i kinda pleaded and grovelled a bit in the last few messages but to no avail. maybe i've lost my charm.

Do you want to borrow some of my Italian New York Bitch Attitude? Doesnt always work but you DO always feel better afterward

Bitch? FUHGEDIBOUTIT!!!! LOL


Only meant in jest, TN!!!!!

Jeet? No, jew? and before you scream Racist!!! Say it fast!!! LOL Taste of home!!! LOL

[TwistedNadine]

Specifically, can the experts detail the issues? Just as a "teaching" exercise.
Grasshopper, you must first learn to read and write-in cursive before things of this nature become clear to you.:
Remember:
Every master was once a novice.
It is better to spend three years looking for a good master than ten years "learning" with a bad one.

You seem to have a Grasshopper, infestation RF. I can hook you up with a good exterminator - Guido's Pest Control. Extra charge for cinder blocks but very reliable.

[Merlin1958]

Specifically, can the experts detail the issues? Just as a "teaching" exercise.
Grasshopper, you must first learn to read and write-in cursive before things of this nature become clear to you.:
Remember:
Every master was once a novice.
It is better to spend three years looking for a good master than ten years "learning" with a bad one.

You seem to have a Grasshopper, infestation RF. I can hook you up with a good exterminator - Guido's Pest Control. Extra charge for cinder blocks but very reliable.

LOL TN, what's the meaning of a "Sicilian Message" of a crow wrapped in newspaper and a TDT.Org Tee? LOL


:tongue1:

[bdwyer19]

Could I get some opinions on this signature? From the B&N Sarasota signing with wristband and flyer.
http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/7233/112263.jpg

[Randall Flagg]

Hard to tell at that size, but it looks acceptable to me.

[divemaster]

Seems consistent with the 11/22/63 sigs.

[bdwyer19]

Thanks RF and Dive. Appreciate the help!

[AKC]

I'm late but it's good......

[EXPLORER]

Seems consistent with the 11/22/63 sigs. Yes consistent, ink, placement, etc.. Just reviewed qnd compared to ones I have

[bdwyer19]

Thanks again, gentlemen! I was pretty wary of an eBay purchase, but for $150 it looks like I got a pretty good deal!

[sgc1999]

I know this seller has a history of fraud sigs. Occasionally he sells the real deal.
My question is only one of curiosity, as i already have a signed copy of this book.
I consider myself a decent judge of real sigs since being burned i have spent a lot of time studying both.
This one i would like to ask anyone interested to chime in and hope our resident pros will as well, since im really sort of stumped on this sigs time period.
any takers??? Real or Rotten???
Thanks:)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-EYES-OF-THE-DRAGON-FIRST-1st-Extra-RARE-LIMITED-HC-HORROR-A-/130724345508?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item1e6fc736a4

[WeDealInLead]

Real or fake, I still wouldn't buy from that scum.

[sgc1999]

i agree. I am curious as to what everyone thinks about the sig though?
Its for educational purpose:)

[bdwyer19]

I can't help with the signature, but my rule of thumb is that if I see an auction that has multiple font sizes, says it's the Lowest Price Ever, and shows price drops, I won't even bother considering that seller.

[Merlin1958]

I know this seller has a history of fraud sigs. Occasionally he sells the real deal.
My question is only one of curiosity, as i already have a signed copy of this book.
I consider myself a decent judge of real sigs since being burned i have spent a lot of time studying both.
This one i would like to ask anyone interested to chime in and hope our resident pros will as well, since im really sort of stumped on this sigs time period.
any takers??? Real or Rotten???
Thanks:)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-EYES-OF-THE-DRAGON-FIRST-1st-Extra-RARE-LIMITED-HC-HORROR-A-/130724345508?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item1e6fc736a4

Of course I am no expert, but that looks legit to me for the time period. I matched up to a sig I have from '91 and it looks good. However, the "Pro's" can probably better critique it for educational purposes. I'd like to hear their opinions as well!!! Ralph? where are ya when we need ya, buddy? LOL LOL

[sgc1999]

Ralph, Ralph, Ralph...

[Dan]

I can't help with the signature, but my rule of thumb is that if I see an auction that has multiple font sizes, says it's the Lowest Price Ever, and shows price drops, I won't even bother considering that seller.

That's funny, I've often thought the same thing.

[Randall Flagg]

I need to look around and see if King has done other sigs with the "7" having the hash mark in them.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

I need to look around and see if King has done other sigs with the "7" having the hash mark in them.

Well, as much as I can't stand this seller for many reasons, the Eye's signature looks legit. The hash mark in the 7 is legit as well. Example:

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/668/Kingsignature.PNG

Mulleins

[Merlin1958]

Thanks, Ralph. You "Da Man"!!!!!

[sgc1999]

interesting.
Lesson learned. Thank you all for input.

[killbourne]

I know this seller has a history of fraud sigs. Occasionally he sells the real deal.
My question is only one of curiosity, as i already have a signed copy of this book.
I consider myself a decent judge of real sigs since being burned i have spent a lot of time studying both.
This one i would like to ask anyone interested to chime in and hope our resident pros will as well, since im really sort of stumped on this sigs time period.
any takers??? Real or Rotten???
Thanks:)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-EYES-OF-THE-DRAGON-FIRST-1st-Extra-RARE-LIMITED-HC-HORROR-A-/130724345508?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item1e6fc736a4

is everyone talking about this sig? I think the S is wrong, the whole sig doesnt have enough slant to it..especially the K in king, the loop throws me off..plus, it looks like a combo of years especially with the king. But thats my opinion. Need more comparison to that specific year.

by luck, i think that this is more of a legit sig that the one that we are talking about ebay item # 140791528104

and looking at the "with best wishes" something doesnt match up..so, one of them is fake. Im going with the stand signed book.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

The most important thing we've established......this seller is total scum. I feel sorry for the buyers who keep supporting him without research or help. If the EOTD is fake, it's a damn good one. The pen used makes it very difficult to establish all correct points but does match other signatures from that period. I still think it's real (I've been snookered by a couple good fake ones in the past) but would never support this guy.

Mulleins

[killbourne]

The most important thing we've established......this seller is total scum. I feel sorry for the buyers who keep supporting him without research or help. If the EOTD is fake, it's a damn good one. The pen used makes it very difficult to establish all correct points but does match other signatures from that period. I still think it's real (I've been snookered by a couple good fake ones in the past) but would never support this guy.

Mulleins

Agreed. I think this guy disgusts me sooo much, that I cant see anything of his as legit..even though it may be. lol.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

The most important thing we've established......this seller is total scum. I feel sorry for the buyers who keep supporting him without research or help. If the EOTD is fake, it's a damn good one. The pen used makes it very difficult to establish all correct points but does match other signatures from that period. I still think it's real (I've been snookered by a couple good fake ones in the past) but would never support this guy.

Mulleins

Agreed. I think this guy disgusts me sooo much, that I cant see anything of his as legit..even though it may be. lol.

Haha....total agreement. It makes me sick to go back through his recent EBay tranasactions and see all the fakes he sold.

Even a legit signature in this guys listing should be considered forged.

Mulleins

[TwistedNadine]

Well, as much as I can't stand this seller for many reasons, the Eye's signature looks legit.
Mulleins

Wow, I really thought it was a bad one. Im not good at this at all. Seems to me the 'D' has hesitation, the curl on the G seems wrong, "wishes" seems way wrong compared to others and the S also seems wrong. I thought the only part of this that seemed legit was the date. I wish I had the same eye as you guys do. Well legit or not I would never buy from this guy.

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/T2eC16hHJGoE9nuQhoiDBP6E_h0KPw_60_3.JPG

[Room 217 Caretaker]

I noticed the D as well, not unusual though because a pause to make sure of spelling or correct name could explain that. But again, this guy is a scum bag and has many forged signatures in his sold list. Therefore, all his signatures should be approached with caution. Buyer BEWARE.

[Randall Flagg]

Looking at a couple of King signatures that are circa 1992-1994 it looks far different, BUT The book could have been kinda pushed in fron of King and he quickly inscribed it. Interesting that if the sig is legit, it is a precursor of his modern cramped style.

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/T2eC16hHJGoE9nuQhoiDBP6E_h0KPw_60_3.JPG http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/510/medium/Insomnia_SL_sig.JPG

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/510/medium/P1010168.JPG

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Well, like I said above.....if it's forged, it's a damn good one. If you look at the sellers other items you can clearly see forged copies. Your point of being pushed in front of King is a good one and could explain the odd D and the crunched King. All excellent points Jerome.

Mulleins

[killbourne]

Its interesting to see that the e before p in stephen is taller in the "not sure" signature than any other signature of seen of his. Wonder if that is a common trait in his signature. ANyway, its always fun to analyze stuff.

[WeDealInLead]

I'm an amateur at judging his signature but at the first glance I thought it was a fake. I still do. That seller actually knows and collects King. He's aware King's singature changed over time and he counterfeits it accordingly.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Here is another habitual loser that EBay won't do anything about:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KING-Misery-SIGNED-1ST-EDITION-/110905237271?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item19d2779f17#ht_789wt_1838

Mulleins

[killbourne]

Yeah, I dont understand why ebay cant get rid of these people.

[TwistedNadine]

Yeah, I dont understand why ebay cant get rid of these people.

I used to be on a mission to get rid of these guys. I would report a seller two or three times a day to ebay until they're listings were removed. But it would take weeks. And then inevitably they would show back up again using a different name. I think Allstarbooks is one of them (used to sell under a different name, was busted and reappeared as Allstar). I finally gave up. As long as people buy their books I think these sellers will always be around on ebay, abe etc and its really up to the buyer to beware and do their homework.

[carlosdetweiller]

Just got back in town from a week away from the internet. I think the sig on TEOTD by brennan2984 is a forgery. I didn't even think it was close.

With regards to the "slash" on the 7's: that seems to be a European thing. King started doing that on all of his 7's after he spent a month or two in England in 1977. All his dated signatures have an unslashed 7 prior to that.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Just got back in town from a week away from the internet. I think the sig on TEOTD by brennan2984 is a forgery. I didn't even think it was close.

With regards to the "slash" on the 7's: that seems to be a European thing. King started doing that on all of his 7's after he spent a month or two in England in 1977. All his dated signatures have an unslashed 7 prior to that.

Interesting. It looks rushed but not forged. I guess I have lost my touch. Back of the line for me...haha.

Mulleins

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Just for the record. The English NEVER slash the 7's. It is a French thing, and the English HATE the French.

Don't know why King started this.

[carlosdetweiller]

Just got back in town from a week away from the internet. I think the sig on TEOTD by brennan2984 is a forgery. I didn't even think it was close.

With regards to the "slash" on the 7's: that seems to be a European thing. King started doing that on all of his 7's after he spent a month or two in England in 1977. All his dated signatures have an unslashed 7 prior to that.

Interesting. It looks rushed but not forged. I guess I have lost my touch. Back of the line for me...haha.

Mulleins


I'm definitely not 100% either. I've made my share of mistakes. I usually make a judgement within a second or two of looking at a signature. I thought forgery immediately on this one.

As for my mistakes: A case in point.... while scanning a weeks worth of back posts in this forum I noticed a forum member had sold one of those sharpie signed copies of TWTTK (maybe one of the ones King signed coming out of the restroom?). I would have said forgery immediately on that one. It was a really terrible looking thing but legit (I guess).

[carlosdetweiller]

Just for the record. The English NEVER slash the 7's. It is a French thing, and the English HATE the French.

Don't know why King started this.

I don't either. But that certainly seems to be when King started slashing 7's. It would be an interesting exercise to see if we can find a slashed 7 prior to the middle of September 1977 (when King arrived in England). I know that in my collection all of the 7's are unslashed prior to that date and most (maybe all?) of the 7's are slashed after that date.

[Randall Flagg]

As for my mistakes: A case in point.... while scanning a weeks worth of back posts in this forum I noticed a forum member had sold one of those sharpie signed copies of TWTTK (maybe one of the ones King signed coming out of the restroom?). I would have said forgery immediately on that one. It was a really terrible looking thing but legit (I guess).
Unless King used the restroom more than once when the public-VIP tix were allowed in hours early, then King only signed two sigs-both in blue pen ink upon exiting the Mens room. King signed dozens of books/articles in a Sharpie, both beforehand, and during the VIP rush.
At the hotel, or the next day at the convention I have no first hand account.

[TwistedNadine]

Just for the record. The English NEVER slash the 7's. It is a French thing, and the English HATE the French.

Don't know why King started this.

I don't either. But that certainly seems to be when King started slashing 7's. It would be an interesting exercise to see if we can find a slashed 7 prior to the middle of September 1977 (when King arrived in England). I know that in my collection all of the 7's are unslashed prior to that date and most (maybe all?) of the 7's are slashed after that date.

In my early childhood (around 7 or so) I spent a year in Switzerland and 3 years in Sussex England. During that time I was taught to slash my 7s and I have ever since. Dont remember which country taught me to do it but I will tell you that the teaching methods are a little harsher than America - rapping knuckles with a ruler was used pretty liberally.

[Brice]

I was taught to slash 7s too...in Virginia.

[jhanic]

I was taught when I was in the Army (Signal Corps).

John

[stkmw02]

I was taught to slash my 7s in elementary school here in Pennsylvania. It was apparently so teachers could distinguish between 7 and 1 and L and I and whatnot. Although, I have impeccable handwriting, so I certainly didn't need the slash. :P It just stuck from habit.

[Patrick]

As for my mistakes: A case in point.... while scanning a weeks worth of back posts in this forum I noticed a forum member had sold one of those sharpie signed copies of TWTTK (maybe one of the ones King signed coming out of the restroom?). I would have said forgery immediately on that one. It was a really terrible looking thing but legit (I guess).
Unless King used the restroom more than once when the public-VIP tix were allowed in hours early, then King only signed two sigs-both in blue pen ink upon exiting the Mens room. King signed dozens of books/articles in a Sharpie, both beforehand, and during the VIP rush.
At the hotel, or the next day at the convention I have no first hand account.
Yep, the two "men's room" signatures were with a regular pen. The mob signing with the Sharpie was so rushed, those sigs are all over the board.

[Merlin1958]

As for my mistakes: A case in point.... while scanning a weeks worth of back posts in this forum I noticed a forum member had sold one of those sharpie signed copies of TWTTK (maybe one of the ones King signed coming out of the restroom?). I would have said forgery immediately on that one. It was a really terrible looking thing but legit (I guess).
Unless King used the restroom more than once when the public-VIP tix were allowed in hours early, then King only signed two sigs-both in blue pen ink upon exiting the Mens room. King signed dozens of books/articles in a Sharpie, both beforehand, and during the VIP rush.
At the hotel, or the next day at the convention I have no first hand account.
Yep, the two "men's room" signatures were with a regular pen. The mob signing with the Sharpie was so rushed, those sigs are all over the board.

Hey!!! I got one of those (Mob/Sharpie)!!! You "Bathroom" stalker!!! LOL LOL LOL

[Patrick]

As for my mistakes: A case in point.... while scanning a weeks worth of back posts in this forum I noticed a forum member had sold one of those sharpie signed copies of TWTTK (maybe one of the ones King signed coming out of the restroom?). I would have said forgery immediately on that one. It was a really terrible looking thing but legit (I guess).
Unless King used the restroom more than once when the public-VIP tix were allowed in hours early, then King only signed two sigs-both in blue pen ink upon exiting the Mens room. King signed dozens of books/articles in a Sharpie, both beforehand, and during the VIP rush.
At the hotel, or the next day at the convention I have no first hand account.
Yep, the two "men's room" signatures were with a regular pen. The mob signing with the Sharpie was so rushed, those sigs are all over the board.

Hey!!! I got one of those (Mob/Sharpie)!!! You "Bathroom" stalker!!! LOL LOL LOL
As did I! Personally I think my mob/Sharpie signature looks objectively better (more legit) than my other one. You can see the two in this post (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?377-Your-New-Pride-and-Joy!&p=708157&viewfull=1#post708157).

[Merlin1958]

As for my mistakes: A case in point.... while scanning a weeks worth of back posts in this forum I noticed a forum member had sold one of those sharpie signed copies of TWTTK (maybe one of the ones King signed coming out of the restroom?). I would have said forgery immediately on that one. It was a really terrible looking thing but legit (I guess).
Unless King used the restroom more than once when the public-VIP tix were allowed in hours early, then King only signed two sigs-both in blue pen ink upon exiting the Mens room. King signed dozens of books/articles in a Sharpie, both beforehand, and during the VIP rush.
At the hotel, or the next day at the convention I have no first hand account.
Yep, the two "men's room" signatures were with a regular pen. The mob signing with the Sharpie was so rushed, those sigs are all over the board.

Hey!!! I got one of those (Mob/Sharpie)!!! You "Bathroom" stalker!!! LOL LOL LOL
As did I! Personally I think my mob/Sharpie signature looks objectively better (more legit) than my other one. You can see the two in this post (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?377-Your-New-Pride-and-Joy!&p=708157&viewfull=1#post708157).

LOL Dude, I was there if you recall!!! LOL I was just F*cking with ya!!! LOL LOL


BTW, Patrick has real SK DNA on his pen. Set your "watch and warrant" to it!!! RF tried his best to get a hold of it, but Patrick was going to start an "L.A. CSI" franchise with it!!! LOL LOL

[carlosdetweiller]

As for my mistakes: A case in point.... while scanning a weeks worth of back posts in this forum I noticed a forum member had sold one of those sharpie signed copies of TWTTK (maybe one of the ones King signed coming out of the restroom?). I would have said forgery immediately on that one. It was a really terrible looking thing but legit (I guess).
Unless King used the restroom more than once when the public-VIP tix were allowed in hours early, then King only signed two sigs-both in blue pen ink upon exiting the Mens room. King signed dozens of books/articles in a Sharpie, both beforehand, and during the VIP rush.
At the hotel, or the next day at the convention I have no first hand account.
Yep, the two "men's room" signatures were with a regular pen. The mob signing with the Sharpie was so rushed, those sigs are all over the board.

Regardless of when it was obtained, that was a pretty nasty looking signature on the one that sold recently. Yuck!

[carlosdetweiller]

I think that there is a problem with this set. Anyone else notice something fishy?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/190697009431?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2F i.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_nkw%3D190697009431%26_rdc% 3D1

[biomieg]

The 'publisher's copy' statement in the GUNSLINGER book looks as if it's written over a number or letter but other than that, I'm not sure.

[namelessnpoor]

The 'publisher's copy' statement in the GUNSLINGER book looks as if it's written over a number or letter but other than that, I'm not sure.

Yeah something weird about that Gunslinger.....maybe it was misnumbered or messed up copy and they decided to just go ahead and make it a publishers copy...could be an honest mistake but if your asking $20,000 for something and expect someone to pay it you may want to at least attempt an explanation of that, especially since its in the most valubale book of the collection

[carlosdetweiller]

Yes. Every "PC" of THE GUNSLINGER that I have seen looks like this:

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/carlosdetweiller/pcgunslinger.jpg

[Cook]

Yes. Every "PC" of THE GUNSLINGER that I have seen looks like this:

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/carlosdetweiller/pcgunslinger.jpg

Interesting, I've never seen a PC with DMG signature attached.
I noticed the Gunslinger "quick links" on this very site shows a different PC without DMG signature?
See below


http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/519/DT1_SL_Pub.JPG

[Cook]

The 'publisher's copy' statement in the GUNSLINGER book looks as if it's written over a number or letter but other than that, I'm not sure.

I agree... like it's written over something, which raises a much larger question. Why?

[carlosdetweiller]

Interesting, I've never seen a PC with DMG signature attached.
I noticed the Gunslinger "quick links" on this very site shows a different PC without DMG signature?


That's interesting. I've never seen one without DMG's signature until now. I think these were back in the day when a "publisher's copy" really meant it belonged to the publisher (in this case DMG) and not the money grab they have become lately.

[TwistedNadine]

The 'publisher's copy' statement in the GUNSLINGER book looks as if it's written over a number or letter but other than that, I'm not sure.

I agree... like it's written over something, which raises a much larger question. Why?

Sounds crazy but maybe that seller just really wanted a complete set of publisher's copies so wrote over his number

[Randall Flagg]

The only one that looks like it was possibly written over something is the DTI

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

The 'publisher's copy' statement in the GUNSLINGER book looks as if it's written over a number or letter but other than that, I'm not sure.

I agree... like it's written over something, which raises a much larger question. Why?

Sounds crazy but maybe that seller just really wanted a complete set of publisher's copies so wrote over his number

This looks like the most likely as, IMO, the writing is nothing like any other I've seen on a S/L DT book.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

In continued discussion of the strange Publisher Copy in the Gunslinger book. I own something similar. The Talisman lettered. It looked like lettered BB and I kept it listed that way in my data base for the longest time.

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/668/Lettered_BB_take_21.JPG

However, after discussion here with my DT friends. Everyone felt it was important to get the opinion of Grant Publishing of what Lettered edition it really is. I sent the book to Robert. After discussion, we both agreed to make it Publisher Copy.

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/668/medium/Letter_from_DG.PNG

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/668/Publisher_Copy.PNG

Not sure if my copy lost value or not, but I felt better about it.

Mulleins

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

That Talisman "Lettered" is the same as the "Artist" version. Both have the same limitation page. The page says 1/70, but I do not know what number of Lettered or Artist editions there were. I have Letter "T" and Number 26.

http://www.akyle.f2s.com/images/talisman_6.jpg

http://www.akyle.f2s.com/images/talisman_4.jpg

[gsvec]

It almost looks like it was numbered 71 of 70 and someone just scribbled out the 71!


In continued discussion of the strange Publisher Copy in the Gunslinger book. I own something similar. The Talisman lettered. It looked like lettered BB and I kept it listed that way in my data base for the longest time.

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/668/Lettered_BB_take_21.JPG

[Randall Flagg]

In continued discussion of the strange Publisher Copy in the Gunslinger book. I own something similar. The Talisman lettered. It looked like lettered BB and I kept it listed that way in my data base for the longest time.

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/668/Lettered_BB_take_21.JPG

However, after discussion here with my DT friends. Everyone felt it was important to get the opinion of Grant Publishing of what Lettered edition it really is. I sent the book to Robert. After discussion, we both agreed to make it Publisher Copy.

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/668/medium/Letter_from_DG.PNG

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/668/Publisher_Copy.PNG

Not sure if my copy lost value or not, but I felt better about it.

Mulleins
I would never had allowed him to adulterate the book. Just my feelings.

[Robert Fulman]

It's funny that his name is misspelled (in one place or the other).