Stephen King Collecting Questions

[Nerak]

I just wanted to let y'all know that we have reached a settlement in my case!

We are getting $4250 in cash (with the lawyer having done all his work for free). It's not great, wonderful or outstanding, but it will cover the rent for a couple of months and get Christmas taken care of for my kids!

Thanks for all the warm thoughts and kind words! :clap: :couple:

[Ari_Racing]

Well...it might not pay back all the things losts and the headaches, but it helps a lot :)

Take care hon!

[herbertwest]

could be better... could be worst...

at least you get some stuff back!

[jhanic]

Congratulations, Karen. Something is a lot better than nothing!

(Make sure you send that lawyer a Christmas card!)

John

[Patrick]

Congrats, Karen. Although not the ideal of getting everything returned, I'm glad to see that you came away as well as you did.

[Nerak]

Thanks Peeps! My lawyer worked his butt off for us for a total of $290. And now he wants to change the laws regarding how the sale of storage units is done! GO JOHN!!! :clap:

[wizardsrainbow]

Congrats Karen.

[Tatts4Life]

I just wanted to let y'all know that we have reached a settlement in my case!

We are getting $4250 in cash (with the lawyer having done all his work for free). It's not great, wonderful or outstanding, but it will cover the rent for a couple of months and get Christmas taken care of for my kids!

Thanks for all the warm thoughts and kind words! :clap: :couple:

what happened? I must of missed the post regarding this.

[Cutter]

This is actually a Dean Koontz question, but there is a online book store that sells first signed editions for a few authors (I think they are in LA?), and they always have Koontz sign books for them for each of his releases. I used to have this link a couple of years ago and now I don't have it anymore could someone post the link or pm me if they know of the store I'm talking about?

thanks!

[Bev Vincent]

Possibly Dark Delicacies (http://www.darkdel.com/). Clive Barker is a semi-regular there, too.

[Cutter]

Possibly Dark Delicacies (http://www.darkdel.com/). Clive Barker is a semi-regular there, too.
Thanks Bev, but that's not the site though.

And congrats Karen (I missed the post)! Sounds like a good lawyer to help you out like that.

[Clacke]

This is actually a Dean Koontz question, but there is a online book store that sells first signed editions for a few authors (I think they are in LA?), and they always have Koontz sign books for them for each of his releases. I used to have this link a couple of years ago and now I don't have it anymore could someone post the link or pm me if they know of the store I'm talking about?

thanks!

Maybe http://signedpage.com/ ?

[Randall Flagg]

This is actually a Dean Koontz question, but there is a online book store that sells first signed editions for a few authors (I think they are in LA?), and they always have Koontz sign books for them for each of his releases. I used to have this link a couple of years ago and now I don't have it anymore could someone post the link or pm me if they know of the store I'm talking about?

thanks!
The preeminent publisher of Koontz S/L's is Charnel House (http://www.charnelhouse.com/)

http://www.charnelhouse.com/nulogo.gif

[carlosdetweiller]

I believe you are thinking of Book Carnival. That's about the only place Koontz signs anymore.

http://home.earthlink.net/~bookcarnival/signings.htm

[oy-the-brave]

I believe you are thinking of Book Carnival. That's about the only place Koontz signs anymore.

http://home.earthlink.net/~bookcarnival/signings.htm

That is the one, I have purchased several signed books from them in the last few years.

[biomieg]

I have a not-so-important question about the Sphere 1st TPB of The Waste Lands. I recently bought it on eBay. Before placing a bid, I inquired with the seller about the ISBN and copyright page statements, just to make sure it wasn't a reprint or whatever. The seller confirmed everything except the ISBN, which according to him was the one that I found to be the ISBN of The Drawing of the Three. I bought the book anyway, figuring it was so cheap I might as well take the gamble. Anyway, it arrived today and I noticed that although the back of the book has the correct ISBN, the copyright page indeed has the wrong ISBN.

Now, I actually don't care because the book itself is the Sphere 1st TPB, which is what I was looking for and I'm not such a purist/completist that I'm going to look for a copy with the right ISBN on the copyright page. But I'm just curious nonetheless whether this misprint is present in all copies or not. Does any of you guys want to check their copy and confirm?

Thanks :D

Drawing ISBN: 0-7474-0102-0
Waste Lands ISBN: 0-7474-1188-3

[Cutter]

I believe you are thinking of Book Carnival. That's about the only place Koontz signs anymore.

http://home.earthlink.net/~bookcarnival/signings.htm
Aha, that is the place Bob, thanks! and thanks to everyone else.

[Chooch]

Hi Everyone

I have a question on "speckeled" book ends and remainder marks. Are they the same thing? I just read the post of Centipede selling his S/L 'Salems Lot and he mentioned "speckeled ends" I have a Shinning that has speckeled ends but have always coinsidered that remainder mark. Am I wrong ? what's the scoop

[boq]

Hi all. I've been in touch with John Avon, the artist who painted the covers for the UK 1st publications of DT2 and DT3, large size paperbacks from Sphere books. I was wondering if he sold prints of his Dark Tower work, which he does not, but he has mentioned that he would consider selling the original painting for DT2 (the DT3 painting was sold years ago he says).
I love this painting, but the asking price is well out of my league I'm sad to say.
He does however say he could "do a 19x13" Archival of it. Plus Volume 3, maybe if I find the scan."
I'm wondering if anyone here could explain what an Archival is? Is it an actual physical on-the-page image, or some sort of digital file I'd have to arrange to be printed myself?

Hmmm... maybe I should ask John himself... but I don't want to appear even more stupid than I already feel:blush:

[turtlex]

Hi all. I've been in touch with John Avon, the artist who painted the covers for the UK 1st publications of DT2 and DT3, large size paperbacks from Sphere books. I was wondering if he sold prints of his Dark Tower work, which he does not, but he has mentioned that he would consider selling the original painting for DT2 (the DT3 painting was sold years ago he says).
I love this painting, but the asking price is well out of my league I'm sad to say.
He does however say he could "do a 19x13" Archival of it. Plus Volume 3, maybe if I find the scan."
I'm wondering if anyone here could explain what an Archival is? Is it an actual physical on-the-page image, or some sort of digital file I'd have to arrange to be printed myself?

Hmmm... maybe I should ask John himself... but I don't want to appear even more stupid than I already feel:blush:

OMG !! I love those covers, too! I posted a note to him a while back on his website, asking about prints and never got a response. Please let us know if he decides to do any kind of prints!!!

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

I'm not so keen on the Sphere DT3 Waste Lands cover. I keep wanting to shout out to Roland, "It's behind you!" :)

[turtlex]

FYI : According to John Avon's site - with regards to his Magic card prints -

Large 19 x 13 inch Prints on Archival Matte Paper 192g

Individually printed by hand using K3 ultra-chrome inks -my best ever prints!

Each image is personally signed with a small white border and title below

[boq]

I know. I always wondered about the image of the Tower itself in these paintings. It's identical to the image used by Whelan in his "Gunslinger on the Beach" painting. I wondered if this part of the image was overlaid by Sphere or if Mr. Avon "copied" it from Whelan's painting and if there were any copyright issues.
Also, there's a fourth character depicted on the beach in DT2 who I can only imagine is supposed to represent Jake... who doesn't appear in DT2 :orely:

Turtlex... getting back to you shortly...:thumbsup:

[Spaceman Spiff]

Hi, all.

(I'm a newbie, so I hope I'm asking this in the correct place...)

I've checked out the "Guide to Identifying First Editions" pdf located on StephenKing.com...

http://www.stephenking.com/faq.html#0.3

...and also the information here in "Calvin's Corner" under the King Collectibles Catalog...

http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?t=1046

...but I'm wondering whether there may have been a variant (two different states) of the dust jacket for Eyes of the Dragon...?

I have two first editions of the book (neither are BCE's--book club editions). Both have red lettering on the front of the jacket, but on the spine of the jacket one has red lettering and one has gold lettering. (Well, kind of a goldish-silver, or a silvery-gold, but definitely not red).

A couple of people have suggested that perhaps my copy may have been faded by the sun, but I see no evidence of that. The dust jacket on this particular copy is in pristine condition, and the green background on the spine is an identical shade of the green on the front & back covers. It does not appear to have any fading whatsoever.

Just wondering if anyone else has run across a copy like this or if it has been documented anywhere...?

Thanks!
John
My Stephen King collection (http://www.librarything.com/catalog.php?tag=Stephen+King&offset=0&view=SpacemanSpiff&collection=-1&shelf=shelf&sort=date)

[Cutter]

Hi Everyone

I have a question on "speckeled" book ends and remainder marks. Are they the same thing? I just read the post of Centipede selling his S/L 'Salems Lot and he mentioned "speckeled ends" I have a Shinning that has speckeled ends but have always coinsidered that remainder mark. Am I wrong ? what's the scoop
No speckled ends are not the same as a remainder mark. Specked ends are used to help hide dust and the yellowing of the page ends on books. Publisher's stains (ie the top pages are stained red) and gilt pages (gold or silver) do the same thing. They are used to help protect the book pages.

A remainder mark is a mark to show that the books have been returned or discounted and are not to be sold at full price.

[Chooch]

OK Then -Everybody-run to your booksheleves and look at your copy's of The Shining. Is any of your boards "speckeled"?

[Room 217 Caretaker]

OK Then -Everybody-run to your booksheleves and look at your copy's of The Shining. Is any of your boards "speckeled"?

Yes

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

[ur2ndbiggestfan]

Hi, all.

...but I'm wondering whether there may have been a variant (two different states) of the dust jacket for Eyes of the Dragon...?

I have two first editions of the book (neither are BCE's--book club editions). Both have red lettering on the front of the jacket, but on the spine of the jacket one has red lettering and one has gold lettering. (Well, kind of a goldish-silver, or a silvery-gold, but definitely not red).

A couple of people have suggested that perhaps my copy may have been faded by the sun, but I see no evidence of that. The dust jacket on this particular copy is in pristine condition, and the green background on the spine is an identical shade of the green on the front & back covers. It does not appear to have any fading whatsoever.

Just wondering if anyone else has run across a copy like this or if it has been documented anywhere...?

Thanks!
John
My Stephen King collection (http://www.librarything.com/catalog.php?tag=Stephen+King&offset=0&view=SpacemanSpiff&collection=-1&shelf=shelf&sort=date)

When EYES came out I located a copy from all three publishing houses that did the 1st edition run. I found these at bookstores. The strange thing is, all 3 jackets are slightly different. The Haddon Craftsmen, Scranton Pennsylvania jacket has the red letters with just a hint of white around them on both cover and spine and the "scales" on the jacket are very shallow. The Arcata Graphics, Keene, New Hampshire jacket has deeper "scales" and white background on the cover letters but no white on the spine. The Arcata Graphics, Hawkins County, Tennessee has deep scales, with the white outlines on both the cover and the spine. These books have never been exposed to sunlight. Your different coloring on the spine may be an indication that they changed dies or some other factor when printing these jackets or, more likely, they were printed in three or possibly four different printing facilities. Whichever is the case, this is a quite fascinating discovery.

[DavidK44]

I'd be very interested in seeing pics of each of the variants - are they posted somewhere on the site and I've missed them? If not, please consider posting them, and then anyone who has a variant that differs can also post. Might be more versions out there than we're aware of...

DavidK

[biomieg]

Ur2ndbiggestfan has posted these (and some other great pics) over at SKcollector.com, but I encourage him to post them here as well :D

[Matt]

I sure hope he does too, I would love to see more of his collection. :thumbsup:

[Spaceman Spiff]

When EYES came out I located a copy from all three publishing houses that did the 1st edition run. I found these at bookstores. The strange thing is, all 3 jackets are slightly different. The Haddon Craftsmen, Scranton Pennsylvania jacket has the red letters with just a hint of white around them on both cover and spine and the "scales" on the jacket are very shallow. The Arcata Graphics, Keene, New Hampshire jacket has deeper "scales" and white background on the cover letters but no white on the spine. The Arcata Graphics, Hawkins County, Tennessee has deep scales, with the white outlines on both the cover and the spine. These books have never been exposed to sunlight. Your different coloring on the spine may be an indication that they changed dies or some other factor when printing these jackets or, more likely, they were printed in three or possibly four different printing facilities. Whichever is the case, this is a quite fascinating discovery.

VERY interesting!
Thanks for passing that info along.
However, this begs two questions:

1) How on Earth did you know that there would be three different publishing/printing houses producing the first edition?
2) How do you identify which jacket came from where?


I'd be very interested in seeing pics of each of the variants - are they posted somewhere on the site and I've missed them? If not, please consider posting them, and then anyone who has a variant that differs can also post. Might be more versions out there than we're aware of...
DavidK

I was going to post a couple pics of my copy, but it appears I'm not allowed to post attachments yet. I searched the FAQ, and it gives instructions on how to post attachments, but the "Manage Attachments" button does not display for me (and the Posting Rules at the bottom-left of my screen states "You may not post attachments"). Not sure if this is determined by the number of posts I've made in the Message Board or what. :orely:

Thanks.

[Randall Flagg]

A recent change to the board discontinued the attachment option.
To post pictures either using our Gallery, or an image hosting service, read the tips in these threads:
How To : Member Photo Gallery (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?t=561)
How To : Posting pictures, links, etc (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?t=6133)

[Spaceman Spiff]

I hope I've done this right.

Here are pictures of the dust jacket I've been describing:

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=7036&ppuser=8282

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=7037&ppuser=8282

(I tried to get them to display here as pictures, but couldn't seem to figure it out. I hope the links are fine).

Thanks!

[biomieg]

See Patrick's edit: normally you should be able to use the image tags but maybe features like these have been temporarily disabled due to Matt weeding out some technical difficulties on the website?

[turtlex]

I hope I've done this right.

Here are pictures of the dust jacket I've been describing:

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=7036&ppuser=8282

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=7037&ppuser=8282

(I tried to get them to display here as pictures, but couldn't seem to figure it out. I hope the links are fine).

Thanks!

Actually, SS, you wouldn't use the http link to the pictures, but the properties info. ( ie - find the picture, and then right click and select properties and then copy the address from there )

Here you go :

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/506/medium/IMG_7127.JPG

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/506/medium/IMG_7152.JPG

[Spaceman Spiff]

Thanks, biomieg and turtlex!

I appreciate the assistance!

John

[ChristineB]

Hello all,

I would really appreciate it if someone could post a picture of the end papers from both the 1st printing and the 2nd printing of The Gunslinger.

Thanks much.

[Randall Flagg]

Once this is resolved, this will be merged into the Collecting Questions thread.

[Brice]

Were the endpapers in the 2 editions not the same? :unsure:

[ChristineB]

The preverbial They speaks of them as the 1st being 'in color' and the second not.

I would like to see the difference.

[gsvec]

The difference is actually more in the detail - as well as "in color" or not. Here's the first edition:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/gsvec/Stephen%20King%20Collection/G%20-%20Artwork/DT1FirstEndpaper.jpg

And the second:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/gsvec/Stephen%20King%20Collection/G%20-%20Artwork/DT1SecEndpaper.jpg

[ChristineB]

Thanks much for those.

That is what had me confused, I had seen the end pages for the 2nd print and they looked to be in color to me, but now I see the difference.

When you move this would you send me a link to where you move it to. I guess I have missed the thread it should have been in, thanks.

[Randall Flagg]

Glad the answer came so quickly. This thread will merge into: Collecting Questions (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?t=1283)
A short redirect should also help.:grouphug:

[ChristineB]

What is this? I can't seem to find it in Brook's biblography, not that it would be easy to find there.
http://cgi.ebay.com/1978-Cinefantastique-Stephen-King-on-Carrie-Shining_W0QQitemZ260499281539QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMa gazines?hash=item3ca6f79683

[lophophoras]

What is this? I can't seem to find it in Brook's biblography, not that it would be easy to find there.
http://cgi.ebay.com/1978-Cinefantastique-Stephen-King-on-Carrie-Shining_W0QQitemZ260499281539QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMa gazines?hash=item3ca6f79683

A movie magazine with articles about some of King's movies.

[SkippyD023]

Just a general question regarding flatsigned versus inscribed. Is a book worth less if it is inscribes versus just flatsigned by the author. I am not talking about "personal" value but value on the open market when selling or buying a book.

My thought is that it is worth less if it has an inscription versus just signed but looking to hear what others have to say. I suppose if the inscription happens to be with your name when it comes to buying the book the value might not change.

[carlosdetweiller]

Just a general question regarding flatsigned versus inscribed. Is a book worth less if it is inscribes versus just flatsigned by the author. I am not talking about "personal" value but value on the open market when selling or buying a book.

My thought is that it is worth less if it has an inscription versus just signed but looking to hear what others have to say. I suppose if the inscription happens to be with your name when it comes to buying the book the value might not change.

Here is one bookseller's opinion:

http://www.raresf.com/bnews.html#signed

[e_taylor]

My preference is inscribed books. Especially if I can get the background on the inscription. First, they are easier to authenticate. Second, long inscriptions give some insight into the mind of the author, or sometimes the background to the story. And third, sometimes the people they are inscribed to are famous and they turn out to be cool association copies.

[Merlin1958]

Just a general question regarding flatsigned versus inscribed. Is a book worth less if it is inscribes versus just flatsigned by the author. I am not talking about "personal" value but value on the open market when selling or buying a book.

My thought is that it is worth less if it has an inscription versus just signed but looking to hear what others have to say. I suppose if the inscription happens to be with your name when it comes to buying the book the value might not change.

I collect Art (Roger Dean/Ron Wood) and in the art world the book equivilant of a flat sign is more valuable than a personalized one specifically for the resale value. I was in negotiations with Mr. Dean regarding the original "Yes" logo painting. When I bowed out of the bidding, I subsequently purchased a "Tales from Topographical Oceans" print and because we had met and negotiated on the phone, he agreed to sign it but, insisted it was more valuable (as well as the dealer) signed "Best Wishes, Roger Dean" than "best wishes Bill, Roger Dean).

However, in book collecting circles a personalized signature (especially in light of all the SK fakes permeated) from SK almost seems to have more value. I think a lot has to do with the known traits of the signor. People who validate SK signatures seem to know his habits and that of course plays a BIG factor in resale amounts. Flat signs seem to be "identified" in SK sales and the price appropriately affected.

Hope this helps

[ola]

I just found a hardcover first edition of The Stand at a library sale, and I'm wondering if it would be worth my time to sell after reading, because the dust jacket is missing...I checked all the details here and it is definitely the 1st edition. Disappointed about the jacket, because I like the cover art. But you can't beat $1 right? :thumbsup:

It wasn't a library copy - just one that someone donated for the sale. so there aren't any stamps or stuff glued into it. Yellowed on the edges and dusty, otherwise in one piece and undamaged.

[Merlin1958]

I just found a hardcover first edition of The Stand at a library sale, and I'm wondering if it would be worth my time to sell after reading, because the dust jacket is missing...I checked all the details here and it is definitely the 1st edition. Disappointed about the jacket, because I like the cover art. But you can't beat $1 right? :thumbsup:

It wasn't a library copy - just one that someone donated for the sale. so there aren't any stamps or stuff glued into it. Yellowed on the edges and dusty, otherwise in one piece and undamaged.

Actually, IMHO it would be worth a little less since it has, admittedbly, been read. Usually the best copies are "supposed to be" Unread and therefore more valuable since the bindings are tighter (almost can't fake that) But having said all that, you may be surprised! Of course they say the DJ is 1/2 the price if not more.

List It!!

[Spaceman Spiff]

I just found a hardcover first edition of The Stand at a library sale, and I'm wondering if it would be worth my time to sell after reading, because the dust jacket is missing...I checked all the details here and it is definitely the 1st edition. Disappointed about the jacket, because I like the cover art. But you can't beat $1 right? :thumbsup:

It wasn't a library copy - just one that someone donated for the sale. so there aren't any stamps or stuff glued into it. Yellowed on the edges and dusty, otherwise in one piece and undamaged.

Does it have the code "T39" on the inseam of page 823?

[Patrick]

Quick, easy question for confirmation: There was a BOM edition of EOTD, yes? DJ with no price listed?

[NeedfulKings]

Quick, easy question for confirmation: There was a BOM edition of EOTD, yes? DJ with no price listed?

Yes. I've seen it. Since it was a Viking, without a DJ, it's hard to determine a true 1st.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Quick, easy question for confirmation: There was a BOM edition of EOTD, yes? DJ with no price listed?

Yes, I have a book club edition of EOTD myself (one of my extra copies). The dust jacket has no price.

[Patrick]

Thanks, Bill and John. I picked up a copy for a dollar to use as a reading copy.

[ola]

Does it have the code "T39" on the inseam of page 823?

Yes.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Cool!

Great find! :clap:

[ola]

So I'm guessing it's probably worth more than like $50? :lol: That was going to be my minimum value for bothering to sell, but now I want to keep it anyway.

Yeah I don't get why it was still on the table! I guess no-one bothered to read the spine or something. :orely:

[Sam]

Just a general question regarding flatsigned versus inscribed. Is a book worth less if it is inscribes versus just flatsigned by the author. I am not talking about "personal" value but value on the open market when selling or buying a book.

My thought is that it is worth less if it has an inscription versus just signed but looking to hear what others have to say. I suppose if the inscription happens to be with your name when it comes to buying the book the value might not change.
Note that all of the below ASSUMES authentic signatures.

Inscribed vs. flatsigned, I hate to say it, but that would all depend on the author. Think of it like this, if an author is happy to sign for any and all fans, and will sign everything the fan has that they wrote AND makes lots of appearances, that authors signature has little value beyond personal value because there are likely thousands of their sigs out there.

However, if an author is seen only rarely, like once every five years or so, or only does two or three stops per signing tour, then that author's signature has some value even with an inscription. Also, if the author is deceased, inscribed or flatsigned there will be some value since they are dead.

The question though is which is more valuable. I say again it depends on the author. If an author who rarely signs books signs one, be it inscribed or not the value would be the same I would think.

Take King as an example. He rarely inscribes anything these days, but has flatsigned thousands of novels in the last decade. What would a very rare inscription from 2008 be worth to someone ten years after his death? I'd wager it would be worth far more than his flatsigned books. Both because of the rarity of the inscription AND because of the proliferation of forged King signatures.

Another example might be J.D. Salinger, a known recluse. What is a Salinger signature worth? I would think the inscription would be worth more simply because it has more words than his signature.

I think it all really comes down to the author. It's harder to sell an inscribed King novel than it is a flatsigned one right now partly because King is still alive. It's also because the non-collector doesn't want a book inscribed to Joseph if his name is Robert. Ten years after King's death though, how will that market look? Collectors will want the rarest. For this time period, that will be inscriptions. Early King inscriptions are aboundant and will continue to be. Late King inscriptions will continue to be much more rare.

Remember that someone paid $20,000 in a charity auction for the priviledge of being a character in Cell. How much might someone pay in such an auction for the priviledge of an inscribed copy of one of King's latest novels?

Collectors, just out of curiosity, what would you pay for a personally inscribed King book?
Now, what would you pay for a flatsigned King book that you KNOW he signed?



Here's another something for you, at a comic convention my brother witnessed (and has books from) two artists switched names and each signed the other's name on their books whether they had both worked on them or not. What is that signature now worth with it having been essentially an authorized forgery?

[Patrick]

...
Collectors, just out of curiosity, what would you pay for a personally inscribed King book?
Now, what would you pay for a flatsigned King book that you KNOW he signed?



Here's another something for you, at a comic convention my brother witnessed (and has books from) two artists switched names and each signed the other's name on their books whether they had both worked on them or not. What is that signature now worth with it having been essentially an authorized forgery?
1. I would pay more for an inscribed book if I did not know the source because it is easier to verify authenticity. I have no expectation of ever buying a flatsigned King book from an unknown/untrusted source.

2. If I know and trust the source, I would prefer a flatsigned book (unless the inscription was to someone with my name, or was a gift).

3. Unless I was there watching the comic book artists do the switcheroo and laughing with them about it, I would not pay a penny. But before I paid anything, I would ask each of them to sign their real names next to the forged version of their name.

[Calla_Wolf]

Collectors, just out of curiosity, what would you pay for a personally inscribed King book?
Now, what would you pay for a flatsigned King book that you KNOW he signed?


Interesting discussion

To answer the questions

$500 max
$175 max (assuming we're talking about Duma Key or UTD)

BUT if you'd asked me five years ago, when my King interest/obsession was at its peak, you could have quadrupled that first figure

[Rahfa]

My preference is actually for inscribed signatures, just because it's more words and is more interesting...plus, he typically only flatsigns now, so it seems a little more unique....and, there's the authenticity factor of course.

King is the only author I believe this for, though...because the chances of getting a face-to-face signature are very slim.

For no other author would I ever want an inscription to somebody else. I bought a used book once, specifically for a signing, and it turned out it already had a signature and inscription! So I actually cut the page out, and had the author resign it to me...obviously an author of personal significance, but no actual value...but that shows the lenghts I'll go to, to get rid of other inscriptions...haha...

[Randall Flagg]

I would love to have a book personally inscribed by King. The longer the inscription, the better. I'd never sell it so if people thought it would be worth less, they can tell that to my heirs.:P

[turtlex]

I kind of look at it like this -

If it's for my collection and I'm never going to sell it - PERSONALIZED.
If it might some day go out to the collector community - NOT.

I'd love a personalized Sai King signature - cause I never in a million years would part with it.

[Rahfa]

I would love to have a book personally inscribed by King. The longer the inscription, the better. I'd never sell it so if people thought it would be worth less, they can tell that to my heirs.:P

I was disappointed he couldn't put my name on the American Short Stories at the Harvard signing where it was an in-person event...totally understandable, of course, given how many people there were...but since that was my best chance, it's too bad it slipped away...oh well...haha...

[Randall Flagg]

I was disappointed he couldn't put my name on the American Short Stories at the Harvard signing where it was an in-person event...totally understandable, of course, given how many people there were...but since that was my best chance, it's too bad it slipped away...oh well...haha...
It might be considered inappropriate, but had you shown up in your BDU's (cry your pardon if I am mistaken) your request would have carried more weight. Sucks, but sometimes King has thousands in front of him and like anything else, what catches one's attention, gets one's attention.
What the heck, you were 'face to face' with him.:)

[Rahfa]

Haha...my BDUs haven't fit in 17 years (nice catch on the term, though)...honestly, given the scrum of people there I don't think it would have mattered - that was the signing where all he did was grunt at Robert and Karen!

But, you're right...it's all luck of the draw. The funny thing is it probably took him more time to look up at me, say, "I'm really sorry, I can't," then it would have to just grunt, write "to Nathan" and toss the book at me.

It was cool, and inscribed or not, I know it was signed 'to' me, not bought off a stack after-the-fact like my Buick 8, DT V, and the UtD I'll get next week.

[Gris]

Haha...my BDUs haven't fit in 17 years (nice catch on the term, though)...honestly, given the scrum of people there I don't think it would have mattered - that was the signing where all he did was grunt at Robert and Karen!

But, you're right...it's all luck of the draw. The funny thing is it probably took him more time to look up at me, say, "I'm really sorry, I can't," then it would have to just grunt, write "to Nathan" and toss the book at me.

It was cool, and inscribed or not, I know it was signed 'to' me, not bought off a stack after-the-fact like my Buick 8, DT V, and the UtD I'll get next week.

Yeah, trying to wear BDUs when you're no longer active tends to fail miserably. I put mine on once for my wife. Looked in the mirror at my self and almost peed.

1) hair is WAY to shaggy nowadays to come close to a military hair cut.
2) I shave once a week. That wouldn't fly either
3) I put on 20 lbs. Looked like 10 lbs of potatoes in a 5lb sack.

Overall, unless you maintain a physical appearance like you did when you were active, you just look silly trying to wear your military clothes.

[lophophoras]

Do you guys know if Cycle of the Werewolf was done in audio?

I have a friend that only does audio and she is looking for a copy.

:orely:

Thanks!

[mikeC]

I've never seen it or saw anywhere that this exsists. Sorry.

[herbertwest]

it's not mentionned in Justin's book... on the other hand, a quick search in google seems to show that the audiobook is available to download...

[Cloysterpete]

I have the mp3, it was made from an old cassette release. Runs to 1hr 57min and is read by Nick Sullivan.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

I have the mp3, it was made from an old cassette release. Runs to 1hr 57min and is read by Nick Sullivan.

I have it as well.

[lophophoras]

Thanks guys!

:thumbsup:

[namelessnpoor]

What is the general consensus on the value of a signed Blaze 1st edition?
I am interested in getting one, there are a couple on ABE i think $600 and something and $500. Is that normal or overpriced? I think its to much, i know they are hard to come by but.....

[Hutch]

watch out on that one. I've only seen a few that I would consider authentic.


What is the general consensus on the value of a signed Blaze 1st edition?
I am interested in getting one, there are a couple on ABE i think $600 and something and $500. Is that normal or overpriced? I think its to much, i know they are hard to come by but.....

[tippy4]

What is the general consensus on the value of a signed Blaze 1st edition?
I am interested in getting one, there are a couple on ABE I think $600 and something and $500. Is that normal or overpriced? I think it's too much, I know they are hard to come by but.....watch out on that one. I've only seen a few that I would consider authentic.


I have one and I know shibus had one....and there was another member here that said they had one. I have never seen a legit one on ebay.

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/5228/picture066ao9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Sam]

I'll ask this from you and Hutch then Rick:
What sort of provenance, beyond seeing the signature itself, would you think necessary to authenticate a signed Blaze? If you guys are the only two that have copies that we know of, there may be one or two others in existence, but how likely is it there are more than that... not very. What provenance do y'all have to prove where your sigs came from should you ever decide to part with them?

I'm not looking for a copy, but for those who are looking at one, what should they require from the seller before they buy?

[tippy4]

Things like COAs and photos of King signing "some book" are mostly worthless to me. Other items like flyers/programs or ticket stubs from a signing event are nice to have, but not a guarantee of authenticity.

The only way you can be 100% sure that the signature is legit is if it signed right in front of you. However, since that is rarely an option, the alternative is to buy from trusted sources, and develop an eye for legit signatures and fakes.

It took me several years before I made the leap to buying signed trades because I just did not trust my ability to spot a fake. I felt the only way I could trust the signature was to buy S/Ls. But over time, I just figured it out. I would not say I am an "expert", but I think I am pretty good at spotting a fake. Still, there is the occasional signature that I am "on the fence about".

In the end, it is the buyer's responsibility to be knowledgable about what they are buying.

Now, regarding my signed copy of Blaze.
Did I witness the signature? No.
Do I trust the person I got it from? Yes, it was Matt who owns this site.
Even if I had no knowledge of the source, would I believe the signature was real? Yes.

This book was signed at The Three Kings event on April 4, 2008. I have the program and ticket stub from the event.

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/3587/picture073j.jpg (http://img209.imageshack.us/i/picture073j.jpg/)

[Sam]

I agree with you that you can't be 100% certain the signature is real unless you witness it yourself. The next best thing is to have someone you trust implicitly obtain the signature for you. I've done this before with other writers and artists when I was unable to attend a convention.

Provenance is a HUGE thing when it comes to establishing the authenticity of anything. However, sometimes even the provenance can be faked. Such is the case with events like the Atlanta UTD signing where there were no tickets and the wristband has nothing to establish the event or date of the signing. It is just a generic blue band that could have come from any B&N event, oh well. The story that you present DOES give some provenance that, while it would do no real good 200 years from now, would certainly hold up for anyone who were to ever look into purchasing Blaze from you. That's the sort of stuff I was asking about.

Thanks Rick. Your turn Hutch.;)

[Rahfa]

Provenance doesn't really work for autographs at all...because I can buy from Tippy or Hutch because I trust them 100 percent - then somebody buys from me because they trust me - but somewhere down the line there isn't any trust, just assumption....it's not like art, where you can usually trace the ownership all the way.

Ticket stubs and wristbands are legit provenance however - because they're uniqiue. Yes, you can match them up with a fake signature, but that's it - you can only do it once. So I would generally trust an auction with some item from the signing.

But, of course you're right - if it's just a blue wristband, then that doesn't do any good either...

You just gotta know the signature, I guess.

[Spaceman Spiff]

...Provenance is a HUGE thing when it comes to establishing the authenticity of anything. However, sometimes even the provenance can be faked. Such is the case with events like the Atlanta UTD signing where there were no tickets and the wristband has nothing to establish the event or date of the signing. It is just a generic blue band that could have come from any B&N event, oh well....

While I've been collecting SK for years, I've actually just acquired my very first signed copies of any of his books with Under the Dome. (And to top it off, I ended up with THREE copies--one from the Atlanta signing, one from the Sarasota appearance [pre-signed] and the signed limited edition from S&S). As they say, when it rains, it pours. (Luckily my two regular/trade copies were one each of the two variant covers--which I didn't even learn the existence of until afterward!)

For my books signed by other authors, I've always tried to keep some sort of provenance about the author's appearance, whether it be a newspaper clipping, store flyer, printed webpage article, etc. It's true there were no tickets involved with the Atlanta Under the Dome event, but with that copy I'll be keeping not only the wristband (for whatever it's worth) and store receipt, but also the B&N flyer on display in the store that day as well as the confirmation email they sent out announcing I had a confirmed reservation and would be receiving a wristband. Oh, and a couple of photos I snapped of him signing as well.

I have no plans to ever part with the books in my lifetime, but felt these would be good things to keep with the books for my heirs' sake or for the sake of whatever collector ends up with the copies generations after I'm long gone.

Thanks,

[shibus]

I'm not sure how many are out there but this is one of two I got awhile ago.

http://usera.ImageCave.com/shibus/bls.JPG

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

I've seen a few signed US trade editions of Blaze, but I've never seen a UK signed one.

[tippy4]

As I previously said, the only two I have ever seen is mine and Greg's.

I had a choice on what book to get signed at the event, and it came down to Blaze, or my 1st edition of The Gunslinger. While a signed Gunslinger might be worth more money in the long run, I decided to go with the Blaze because I thought a signed Blaze would be more rare.

[namelessnpoor]

If anyone decides to part with their signed Blaze, please let me know. I had my 1st Gunslinger and 1st Carrie signed, though i went back and forth about the Blaze, sometimes i wish i had chosen to have the Blaze signed !!!!
It certainly seems to be rare !!!

[Rahfa]

If anyone decides to part with their signed Blaze, please let me know. I had my 1st Gunslinger and 1st Carrie signed, though i went back and forth about the Blaze, sometimes i wish i had chosen to have the Blaze signed !!!!
It certainly seems to be rare !!!

You made the right call....having those two signed is about as good as it gets.

Tippy's right, a signed Blaze is more rare - but I think most people will care more about GS or Carrie.

[ChristineB]

Can anyone that has both the US and UK firsts tell if they are the same size?

[jhanic]

Can anyone that has both the US and UK firsts tell if they are the same size?

Which book are you talking about?

John

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Can anyone that has both the US and UK firsts tell if they are the same size?

The Scribner books are a tiny bit taller than the Hodder ones. (2mm)

Earlier publishers vary. Some are larger some are smaller.

[ChristineB]

Can anyone that has both the US and UK firsts tell if they are the same size?

Ok DUH!!! I was referring to The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon. Wow was I ever out of it there.:panic:

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Can anyone that has both the US and UK firsts tell if they are the same size?

Ok DUH!!! I was referring to The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon. Wow was I ever out of it there.:panic:

Same answer. Same size. (More or less)

[ChristineB]

Thanks Rabbit. :)

[wizardsrainbow]

Ok, here is a question for the experts, having never seen one before. Here is an F&G of the Centipede Press Salem's Lot book. What do you think it is worth?

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/519/medium/Salem_s_Lot_FandG.jpg

[jhanic]

I've got one, David. I think it's worth probably in the $150-200 range. Jerad was selling these after he had produced the edition, but I don't remember how much he was asking. There are a number of these out there.

John

[Patrick]

FYI: I moved the discussion regarding the signed BLAZE from this general questions thread to the "eBay BS" thread as the topic is the authenticity of a specific signature. Thanks.

[wizardsrainbow]

I've got one, David. I think it's worth probably in the $150-200 range. Jerad was selling these after he had produced the edition, but I don't remember how much he was asking. There are a number of these out there.

John

Thanks for the input John.

[BROWNINGS CHILDE]

I remember seeing a thread that had estimated market values for SK collectible books, can anyone help me find that table.

[Patrick]

I remember seeing a thread that had estimated market values for SK collectible books, can anyone help me find that table.
Do you mean this thread?

Current Market Value - Experts assess your collectible King item (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?t=1987)

[BROWNINGS CHILDE]

Thats probably the thread, but within the thread I'm looking for, there was a link to a table of all SK books with their current estimated market value.

Specifically, I am trying to decide what a DTIII S/L would be worth.

Thanks, Patrick.

[biomieg]

I haven't seen such a specific table on this forum but as far as current market values go, Tomas' site is the place to go: www.stephenkingcollector.com

DT III S/L: http://www.stephenkingcollector.com/limited/dt3.html

[Randall Flagg]

Thats probably the thread, but within the thread I'm looking for, there was a link to a table of all SK books with their current estimated market value.

Specifically, I am trying to decide what a DTIII S/L would be worth.

Thanks, Patrick.
I put up a link with a spreadsheet comparison for prices, but it was comparing issue price to market price in 2005.

Link (http://www.jeromesmith.net/) (Click on the spreadsheet link)

[ChristineB]

Anyone ever seen this before? If so what is it?

http://cgi.ebay.com/LISEYS-STORY-Stephen-King-SPECIAL-SLIPCASED-EDITION_W0QQitemZ370282299860QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS _Fiction_Books?hash=item56368b81d4

[biomieg]

It's in the King Collectibles subforum: http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?t=2935

I don't think I'd pay more than what this seller is asking, by the way (I paid about $20 for mine and I think that might have been too expensive, even).

*edit* just noticed it's a BIN or Best Offer, sorry, thought it was up for auction :)

[ChristineB]

Thanks biomieg. I forgot about the listings here.

[jhanic]

It was first published by the Book of the Month Club. It is, however, the only edition of Lisey's Story published in a slipcase. The original price, including shipping, was about $29, so this one isn't out of line.

John

[ELazansky]

Anyone ever seen this before? If so what is it?

http://cgi.ebay.com/LISEYS-STORY-Stephen-King-SPECIAL-SLIPCASED-EDITION_W0QQitemZ370282299860QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS _Fiction_Books?hash=item56368b81d4

That's funny - I bought this book from the same seller, but I got it from his Amazon.com listing for 18.95

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/073947653X/ref=dp_olp_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1260469630&sr=8-8

[turtlex]

I'm pretty sure I got mine from an amazon seller, as well.

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/596/medium/DSC02606.JPG
http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/596/medium/DSC02581.JPG

[bounce0320]

Anyone ever seen this before? If so what is it?

http://cgi.ebay.com/LISEYS-STORY-Stephen-King-SPECIAL-SLIPCASED-EDITION_W0QQitemZ370282299860QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS _Fiction_Books?hash=item56368b81d4


I got one also from this seller for $19.. I was a little shocked when it arrived in a flimsy plastic bubblewrap envelope :scared: (YIKES!!!) Luckily the book was not damaged. Come on people...Media mail is media mail .. put it in a box for cryin' out loud!

[Ari_Racing]

That's the gift edition. I think it cost was $35 when the book was released. I don't remember the publisher, but it wasn't Scribner.

[jhanic]

Publisher was Book of the Month Club.

John

[ChristineB]

Can anyone tell me identification points for a trade edition of Night Visions 5? Was there just one printing so I am safe bidding on a shrink wrapped copy (although I hate the idea of a book that is still in shrink wrap after 21 years)?

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Can anyone tell me identification points for a trade edition of Night Visions 5? Was there just one printing so I am safe bidding on a shrink wrapped copy (although I hate the idea of a book that is still in shrink wrap after 21 years)?

Only one trade print edition by Dark Harvest. You are safe.

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

[ChristineB]

Thanks Ralph.

Now how many were published? what would be a respectable price for the trade edition?

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Thanks Ralph.

Now how many were published? what would be a respectable price for the trade edition?

$15

:orely: I have the print run info somewhere. Will look for it.

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

[Hutch]

Thanks Ralph.

Now how many were published? what would be a respectable price for the trade edition?

I think 8000 copies. I think it's a steal at $50 or less in the original shrinkwrap. Especially when you consider it contains three original King short stories.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Thanks Ralph.

Now how many were published? what would be a respectable price for the trade edition?

I think 8000 copies. I think it's a steal at $50 or less in the original shrinkwrap. Especially when you consider it contains three original King short stories.

Thanks Hutch. I know I've jotted the print run down but need to locate my notebook. :orely: 8000 sounds right.

As for the price, a seller on Ebay has had several auctions end with no bidders at $15. He also had another copy for $25 in a lot of mixed King goodies with the book.

I'll keep my eye open for him again.

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

[Cloysterpete]

I got a brand new copy of Night Vision V two months ago!. There was someone else bidding against me but the auction only went up-to £3.70($7). :rock:. It would be awesome if I could get the other volumes for that price lol.

What is with that anthology anyway?, I have the paperback of Dark Visions which has the exact same stories and I've seen a hardcover of Dark Visions. Was it published under different names for the US&UK?.

[Bev Vincent]

The paperback version was called The Skin Trade.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

The paperback version was called The Skin Trade.

UK hardcover release

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/668/medium/Night_Visions_.jpg

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

[Sam]

The paperback version was called The Skin Trade.

If I remember right, The Skin Trade had the original version of Sneakers in it. I know I used to have it when I was younger. Are you sure it's the same book Bev?

[jhanic]

Proof of the UK Dark Visions:

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr60/johnhanic/UKDarkVisionsproof.jpg

John

[Bev Vincent]

The paperback version was called The Skin Trade.

If I remember right, The Skin Trade had the original version of Sneakers in it. I know I used to have it when I was younger. Are you sure it's the same book Bev?

Yes.

3 stories by Stephen King: "The Reploids", "Sneakers" and "Dedication".

3 stories by Dan Simmons: "Metastasis", "Vanni Fucci is Alive and Well and Living in Hell" and "Iverson's Pits".

1 story by George R. R. Martin: "The Skin Trade".

[jhanic]

Here's the proof of Night Visions:

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr60/johnhanic/Other_Proofs/DarkVisions5proof.jpg


John

[Matt]

Question for you guys.

How collectible is a book signed to someone else? I have an offer of a book for the fundraiser that is signed by personalized. Is that something that people would buy/

Is it common?

[Bev Vincent]

The book might be highly prized if the person to whom that book is inscribed shares your name, but otherwise it wouldn't be all that collectible. The other exception to this "rule" is if the person to whom it is inscribed is also well-known.

[Matt]

That is kind of what I thought Bev. The person it is inscribed to is not famous, has a common name but it is not spelled commonly. :panic:

I had to auction it with no response, I'd hate even more to give it away to someone who doesn't want it. :beat:

[Rahfa]

Question for you guys.

How collectible is a book signed to someone else? I have an offer of a book for the fundraiser that is signed by personalized. Is that something that people would buy/

Is it common?

I'm assuming NOT signed/inscribed by SK?

[Sam]

I would add two more questions Matt. Do you know if the author is know for inscribing books and is the author still living?

If the author is still living, the inscription has less value unless the author rarely inscribes, such as is currently the case with Sai King. At this point, I would think an inscription from Sai King (even to someone else) in one of his latest titles would have more value than a flatsigned of the same title because of the rarity.

[Matt]

Interesting, thank you Sam.

This item is not signed by King even though it is a King book, it is signed by an artist.

[Rahfa]

Then, yes, it's a drawback that it's been personalized....I would have no interest in a book like that. From SK, not so much a problem, because the chances of a signature are so slim, that a personalized signature is still acceptable.

I'm an extreme case, but I actually cut a page out of a book that had been previously signed...so I could get a new signature directly to me...haha...

[jhanic]

That IS extreme!

John

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Interesting, thank you Sam.

This item is not signed by King even though it is a King book, it is signed by an artist.

:evil: What artist?

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

[Ari_Racing]

Where were these recipes published?

Basic Bread, Egg Puff, Lunchtime Gloop

Are there any others?

I remember there's a book you can get for 10 bucks that contained at least one recipe by King. If I'm not wrong it was John (Hanic) who knew where to get it :)

[jhanic]

Lunchtime Gloop: Riverdrivers Cookbook (1997)
Star Bites 2+ (2006)
Country Goodness Cookbook (2008)

Basic Bread: Country Goodness Cookbook (2008)

The Country Goodness Cookbook was a spiral-bound booklet published by the Lisbon (ME) High School Seniors. I'll see if I still have that address.

These are the ones I own.

According to Justin Brooks' Primary Bibliography, these were all first published in The Famous New Englander's Cookbook (1984), including Egg Puff.


John

[lophophoras]

There is this one also:

Eating Between The Lines - A Maine Writers' Cookbook - Edited By Paul Doiron - Published in 1998 by Maine Writers & Publishers Alliance - "Lunchtime Ghoul-ash" & "Basic Bread" Recipes

[Ari_Racing]

Thanks!

[herbertwest]

As well as the Transylvanian Goulash, not published that have appeared online recently

[Matt]

Interesting, thank you Sam.

This item is not signed by King even though it is a King book, it is signed by an artist.

:evil: What artist?

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

Whelan. :clap:

[ELazansky]

Hello Everyone -

First off, I'd like to say how wonderful this forum is. I have only been collecting for a few months, but all of the great information that can be found here has helped me to get my SK collection off and running, along with the cash in my bank accounts :-)

I don't really plan on collecting as much for value as for enjoyment, but I was wondering which everyone would consider a more "valuable" SK signature:

1) A regular, flat-signed trade edition (like from the UTD tour)
2) A signed and numbered book (maybe an edition size of 500-1000)
3) An anthology with SK's signature included.

From a sports collecting perspective, sometimes having an signature mixed in with others makes the item less desirable. I'm not disputing the quality of anthology books. I was curious as to what you would prefer if you had a choice to buy only one of the three options if they were in the same price range.

Eric

[Randall Flagg]

Welcome to Calvin's Corner. Once this has had a chance to be answered, we'll merge this with the Collecting Questions thread.:grouphug:

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

I don't really plan on collecting as much for value as for enjoyment, but I was wondering which everyone would consider a more "valuable" SK signature:

1) A regular, flat-signed trade edition (like from the UTD tour)
2) A signed and numbered book (maybe an edition size of 500-1000)
3) An anthology with SK's signature included.

I was curious as to what you would prefer if you had a choice to buy only one of the three options if they were in the same price range.

Eric

Hi Eric. Welcome to the Corner. My preference would be in this order.
2 (the lower the limitation the better), 1 then 3.

IMO the best signature is one that was signed to you personally.

[jhanic]

I agree with Mr. Rabbit Trick--the signed limited is best, then a (legitimately) signed trade, then the anthology. The biggest problem is that there are lots of supposedly signed trade editions that turn out to be fakes. Check out the seller or ask questions here regarding the legitimacy of these.

John

[ELazansky]

Thanks for the responses. I was leaning in the 2, 1, 3 order myself.

[Sam]

From a cost stand point it's generally the Signed Limited (S/L) that comes in first. Then the S/L anthology and the signed Trade can switch places depending on the age and condition of the book and the verifiability of the signature in the trade. For instance, a signed UTD Trade may not bring as much as a S/L He is Legend, but a legitimate signed 1st edition of Carrie can out distance many of the S/L Kings when it comes to price.

For their collectibility, the S/L generally is the top of the heap, followed by Signed Trades, then the Anthologies. HOWEVER, if you are collecting for the fun of it, your choices may be different. I see many of the S/L books in my collection as actual works of art more than I see them as books, and some of them ARE works of art. The jewels of my collection are the books I have gotten personally signed by King. I didn't buy them online or from another store. I went to an event and saw Sai King sign them with his own hand. I got to talk to him, to shake his hand, and even got to take a picture with him (that one is framed and sits on a shelf of honor).

For me, if I were to have a chance to purchase either a S/L King, a legit Signed King Trade, or a S/L Anthology, I'd most likely go for the S/L King. Then again, I chose not to purchase the UTD S/L edition that was sold by Scribner and did purchase the S/L He is Legend so nothing is for certain.

Welcome to the King collecting world.

[e_taylor]

Does anyone know if there has ever been a trade paperback (6" x 9" approx) of:

Night Shift
Skeleton Crew
It

?? (Outside of the ARCs/proofs) Publisher and ISBN if you have that info would be a great help!

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Does anyone know if there has ever been a trade paperback (6" x 9" approx) of:

Night Shift
Skeleton Crew
It

?? (Outside of the ARCs/proofs) Publisher and ISBN if you have that info would be a great help!

Info from Brooks Biblio:

Night Shift - NAL - Feb 1979 - ISBN 0-451-12656-4
Skeleton Crew - NAL - Jun 1986 - ISBN 0-451-14293-4 (0-451-16861-5)
It - NAL - NAL - Sep 1987 - ISBN 0-451-14951-3 (0-451-15927-6)

[e_taylor]

Does anyone know if there has ever been a trade paperback (6" x 9" approx) of:

Night Shift
Skeleton Crew
It

?? (Outside of the ARCs/proofs) Publisher and ISBN if you have that info would be a great help!

Info from Brooks Biblio:

Night Shift - NAL - Feb 1979 - ISBN 0-451-12656-4
Skeleton Crew - NAL - Jun 1986 - ISBN 0-451-14293-4 (0-451-16861-5)
It - NAL - NAL - Sep 1987 - ISBN 0-451-14951-3 (0-451-15927-6)

Hmm, when I search for those, the results all come back as mmpbs. Wonder if the term "trade" paperback has two meanings - both the larger size AND that it is a trade version of a paperback (like trade edition hardcovers).

[ChristineB]

Does anyone know if there has ever been a trade paperback (6" x 9" approx) of:

Night Shift
Skeleton Crew
It

?? (Outside of the ARCs/proofs) Publisher and ISBN if you have that info would be a great help!

From A Primary Bibliography, there are no "trade paperbacks" of these books. Only the mass market versions in paperback.

I think Mr. Rabbit was confused. :)

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

I think Mr. Rabbit was confused. :)

Normal state for me :)

[ur2ndbiggestfan]

There is a German (Heyne) trade pb of IT (ES, 6" X 9 1/2")

[biomieg]

Hi guys, somebody posted a topic over at the Dutch SK Fan forum concerning a Dutch paperback edition of a King book that appears to have a genuine signature and inscription (confirmed by SKFakes). He wants to sell it.

Now, I'm not interested in buying signed King books but it did make me curious: would a genuine King signature in a foreign book yield a higher price compared to a King signature in a US book? After all, King did not do any signings outside the US and UK, I believe. So signed foreign editions must be quite rare, certainly a lot more so than signed US editions. This book may be one of those that were sent to King's office for signing (although I don't know if he still did that at that time - the inscription is dated 8/5/1988 ).

http://fotos.marktplaats.com/kopen/7/2f/VWJWYSoldHNAY60wwGg9hA==.jpg

This picture will probably disappear soon, as I copy/pasted it from the auction. Anyway, I'm interested in hearing your thoughts. This can be merged with the Collecting Questions thread later on :)

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

would a genuine King signature in a foreign book yield a higher price compared to a King signature in a US book?


Short answer, no. Only because the market is much smaller. There is not as much a demand for signed foreign books as there is for US ones.

[biomieg]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. I'm not sure the seller will agree though, but I might go for a low bid and see what happens.

[ChristineB]

I think Mr. Rabbit was confused. :)

Normal state for me :)

As it is for me, I had to go through the bibliography and check what the difference was in the terminology (looked at ISBN's for both mmp and trade paperbacks) before I understood what he was looking for. :)

[herbertwest]

Randall (?) have a french signed Roadwork

[Resident Chris]

And there are 25 Copies of the German Hardcover of "Duddits" (Publisher: Ullstein) which King signed official.

[herbertwest]

I remember that Carlosdetweiller have a french Creepshow signed by Etienne Roi (and i am jealous! :p)

As well as a french limited The Green Mile 1 with a fac simile of signature + message by Steve

[Fsmdr]

And there are 25 Copies of the German Hardcover of "Duddits" (Publisher: Ullstein) which King signed official.

Was it not 10 copies?. I had on my notes that it was 10 copies.

[Randall Flagg]

Randall (?) have a french signed Roadwork
No.:P

[Pasiuk57]

10 copies of Duddits is correct!!
I have one and I speak German and won it because of that-got super lucky!!

[Resident Chris]

Sorry but there are 25 Copies.
10 Copies were sold at Amazon.de, 10 by a Newspaper (Die Welt oder Die Zeit) and 5 at an Auction from another Newspaper.
@Pasiuk: When you ever wanna sell your Copy... Please say it to me First!:clap:

[Randall Flagg]

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/510/medium/P1010211.JPG

[Brice]

Wow! That's nice.

[herbertwest]

Randall (?) have a french signed Roadwork
No.:P

Yeah well i was gonne correct myself but you already did post the pic ;-)

[Fsmdr]

Nice, Jerome.

That's a cool thing to own.

[Patrick]

What they said, Jerome!

[Randall Flagg]

Thankfully King didn't sign it in French.:wtf:

[biomieg]

'Stephan Le Roi' :P

[at_one]

Correct me if I am wrong- I thought I remembered reading somewhere that the 1/1 of Gunslinger did not come shrink wrapped? Just wondering because of a iffy feebay listing....

[carlosdetweiller]

Correct me if I am wrong- I thought I remembered reading somewhere that the 1/1 of Gunslinger did not come shrink wrapped? Just wondering because of a iffy feebay listing....

It came shrinkwrapped.

[divemaster]

In any event, the presence of shrinkwrap doesn't mean anything. Unless there's some sort of identifying sticker on it somewhere. Anyone can have something shrinkwrapped after the fact. Back in the day I worked for a video store at the mall and people would return VHS tapes for whatever reason. These tapes had been opened and used but as long as they weren't defective (that is, they loaded and played in our test machine), we'd shrinkwrap them ourselves and put them back on the shelf. From time to time people would come into the store with a tape or book or other item they would ask us to shrinkwrap as a courtesy. Took all of about 30 seconds.

[at_one]

I agree...I am just a little suspect on an ebay listing for a 1/1 Gunslinger as it is worded a little funny. Is there any identifying features that separate the first printing from the second without looking at them side by side?

[carlosdetweiller]

I agree...I am just a little suspect on an ebay listing for a 1/1 Gunslinger as it is worded a little funny. Is there any identifying features that separate the first printing from the second without looking at them side by side?

Ask the seller to tell you what color the boards are. He can do that without opening the shrinkwrap just by looking at the top or bottom of the book. A first edition should have brown boards while a second edition is gray.

[Randall Flagg]

I agree...I am just a little suspect on an ebay listing for a 1/1 Gunslinger as it is worded a little funny. Is there any identifying features that separate the first printing from the second without looking at them side by side?

Ask the seller to tell you what color the boards are. He can do that without opening the shrinkwrap just by looking at the top or bottom of the book. A first edition should have brown boards while a second edition is gray.
Side by side pics of the books:

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/510/medium/Presentation1.jpg

[Ricky]

Hey Patrick, I was looking at your photos of your S/L of The Stand and noticed that the traycase is unlike the ones such as LSOE and SOD where the book can easily slide out of the left side. How does one get the book out without flipping the traycase upside down like a bundt cake?

I never thought about that before and am quite curious to find out the answer. :)

[Randall Flagg]

Hey Patrick, I was looking at your photos of your S/L of The Stand and noticed that the traycase is unlike the ones such as LSOE and SOD where the book can easily slide out of the left side. How does one get the book out without flipping the traycase upside down like a bundt cake?

I never thought about that before and am quite curious to find out the answer. :)
I'll wait for Patrick to answer the question, but this picture might help:

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/9779/standlimited.jpg

[Patrick]

You can use the black ribbon, I suppose, to help ease out the book, but I never want to put that much pressure on the ribbon for fear that it might tear away from the case.

Personally I go for the bundt cake method, very slowly and carefully (with my hand on the book while turning it) at point blank range directly over something soft like a bed.

I doubt that I've taken mine out of its traycase even half a dozen times, so it's not something I do very often.

[wizardsrainbow]

I agree...I am just a little suspect on an ebay listing for a 1/1 Gunslinger as it is worded a little funny. Is there any identifying features that separate the first printing from the second without looking at them side by side?

Also, if this is the auction I think you are referring to, there is a second photo showing the copyright page, but it is for Danse Macabre, not The Gunslinger!

[Ricky]

Ah, thanks guys. It looked like there was a ribbon in a previous photo that I saw of the case, but I couldn't tell what it was for.

Now that you mention it Patrick, I don't think I'd put that much pressure of the ribbon either with such a thick book.

Thanks. :)

[at_one]

I agree...I am just a little suspect on an ebay listing for a 1/1 Gunslinger as it is worded a little funny. Is there any identifying features that separate the first printing from the second without looking at them side by side?

Also, if this is the auction I think you are referring to, there is a second photo showing the copyright page, but it is for Danse Macabre, not The Gunslinger!

David, that would be the auction....I just didn't like how it was worded, kinda seemed like something was being hidden. Oh well, he got a fair price and by the answers he gave to my questions it was a true 1/1. I still have my doubts about "original shrinkwrap" though...

Also, on a few of their auctions they use that Danse Macabre photo, it worked though...I saw they sold a copy of Salem's Lot for $75 w/ no proof of being a 1/1...

[gsvec]

I do use my black ribbon to ease my book out of the case. I believe that's what it's there for.

[Patrick]

I do use my black ribbon to ease my book out of the case. I believe that's what it's there for.
I agree. I'm just paranoid. :unsure:

[jhanic]

I've never used the ribbon. I place the case upside down when I put it on my bed, then lift the case. I don't want to take the chance of messing the ribbon up or dropping the book. Paranoid, maybe, but...

John

[Randall Flagg]

Great care should also be taken to handle the glassine wrapper.

[Patrick]

So, Jerome, do you use the black ribbon to remove yours?

How about everyone else?

[e_taylor]

I carefully place it on my bed and life the tray case off. Better safe than sorry.

[Randall Flagg]

So, Jerome, do you use the black ribbon to remove yours?

How about everyone else?
It's been so long since I have removed it (I took it out years ago) that I don't recall.
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x282/zoidsmith/2doorA.jpg

[Room 217 Caretaker]

If I do remove it I use the ribbon to sort of get it started and carefully turn the box over and let it fall out. :scared: Well, you know what I mean.

Ralph

[Patrick]

:lol: Yes, we understand, Ralph.

[at_one]

Hate to ask this question as it has a lot of variables and is directly relative to the seller and buyer's supply and demand, BUT.....what is the ballpark going price on DT V, VI, and VII. I have Tomas' site to refer to but I would like a few more opinions to get a good, round number. As it figures in to the price, I am not interested in matching a set so number does not matter....heck, if PC are the cheapest, I would actually prefer them over numbered!

[Randall Flagg]

Hate to ask this question as it has a lot of variables and is directly relative to the seller and buyer's supply and demand, BUT.....what is the ballpark going price on DT V, VI, and VII. I have Tomas' site to refer to but I would like a few more opinions to get a good, round number. As it figures in to the price, I am not interested in matching a set so number does not matter....heck, if PC are the cheapest, I would actually prefer them over numbered!
Tomas does his homework. I would say a 'good price' for a buyer of non-matching numbers is 25% less per book than Tomas is referencing.
A good price for a seller is 5% more.

[lophophoras]

Guys...where can I find a list for identifying first editions? I think I have seen a list somewhere that was on a spreadsheet. Anybody have a copy?

Thanks!

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Guys...where can I find a list for identifying first editions? I think I have seen a list somewhere that was on a spreadsheet. Anybody have a copy?

Thanks!

God, you're lazy :) There is a whole thread on this.

http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?t=1323&highlight=identify+editions

[lophophoras]

Guys...where can I find a list for identifying first editions? I think I have seen a list somewhere that was on a spreadsheet. Anybody have a copy?

Thanks!

God, you're lazy :) There is a whole thread on this.

http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?t=1323&highlight=identify+editions

:cry:

But I couldn't find it. I swear I looked.

LOL...thanks!!

[ELazansky]

Guys...where can I find a list for identifying first editions? I think I have seen a list somewhere that was on a spreadsheet. Anybody have a copy?

Thanks!

There is also the PDF file located here - http://www.stephenking.com/the_library.html

[lophophoras]

Thanks!!

[wizardsrainbow]

Hi need a quick accurate answer here.

Someone offering me a Dolan's Cadillac proof, blue cover, looks mint. This is for the business, so I want to be able to resell at minimum 25% profit (don't think badly of me, I have a mortgage to pay). What should I offer this guy? Or instead, what is it worth (meaning a reasonable price I could list on Betts)and I can figure my own offer.

Thank you.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Hi need a quick accurate answer here.

Someone offering me a Dolan's Cadillac proof, blue cover, looks mint. This is for the business, so I want to be able to resell at minimum 25% profit (don't think badly of me, I have a mortgage to pay). What should I offer this guy? Or instead, what is it worth (meaning a reasonable price I could list on Betts)and I can figure my own offer.

Thank you.

The only advice I can offer is that there has been one for sale twice recently on ebay for $400 without any bids. So it should be worth less than that.

[biomieg]

I was going to say that as well (although I thought it was listed for $350 the second time but I guess I could be mistaken :))

[wizardsrainbow]

Hi need a quick accurate answer here.

Someone offering me a Dolan's Cadillac proof, blue cover, looks mint. This is for the business, so I want to be able to resell at minimum 25% profit (don't think badly of me, I have a mortgage to pay). What should I offer this guy? Or instead, what is it worth (meaning a reasonable price I could list on Betts)and I can figure my own offer.

Thank you.

The only advice I can offer is that there has been one for sale twice recently on ebay for $400 without any bids. So it should be worth less than that.

That helps. Thanks.

John? Mike? You are the proof kings. Any input?

[jhanic]

I paid a little less than $360 back in 2008 for my copy. I think that's a valid retail price now, so a good wholesale price should be about $270.

John

[jhanic]

Guys...where can I find a list for identifying first editions? I think I have seen a list somewhere that was on a spreadsheet. Anybody have a copy?

Thanks!

I'd like to see someone who is knowledgeable set up a list for UK first editions. I don't think any exists now, though I could be mistaken.

John

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Guys...where can I find a list for identifying first editions? I think I have seen a list somewhere that was on a spreadsheet. Anybody have a copy?

Thanks!

I'd like to see someone who is knowledgeable set up a list for UK first editions. I don't think any exists now, though I could be mistaken.

John

I gave a list to someone on here, but I can't remember who. I have it on a Word document.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

The bottom has fell out of the Proofs market recently. A lot of collectors have given up collecting them. (Myself and kacod are 2 from this site.)
Recent ebay sales have been poor:
Bag of Bones Manuscript sold for $139.
http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-STEPHEN-KING-Manuscript-Bag-of-Bones-RARE-1st-ed_W0QQitemZ110477080161QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAntiqua rian_Collectible?hash=item19b8f27661

Blaze Proof sold for $98
http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-Stephen-King-BLAZE-ARC-1st-ed-Richard-Bachman_W0QQitemZ110477081873QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAn tiquarian_Collectible?hash=item19b8f27d11

[wizardsrainbow]

Many thanks. For better or worse, right or wrong, I offered $275 to the guy and many other prices on other items.

[ChristineB]

Does anyone know how many printings of the last 3 DT books there have been, so far?

I so liked the way Grant did the first 4 books in that if you saw the DJ (baring DT1 that is)you knew if it was a 1/1 right off the bat because they did not do more printings of the book in that state, but I guess they decided to go for the money with the last 3.

[Randall Flagg]

Guys...where can I find a list for identifying first editions? I think I have seen a list somewhere that was on a spreadsheet. Anybody have a copy?

Thanks!

I'd like to see someone who is knowledgeable set up a list for UK first editions. I don't think any exists now, though I could be mistaken.

John




Guys...where can I find a list for identifying first editions? I think I have seen a list somewhere that was on a spreadsheet. Anybody have a copy?

Thanks!

I'd like to see someone who is knowledgeable set up a list for UK first editions. I don't think any exists now, though I could be mistaken.

John

I gave a list to someone on here, but I can't remember who. I have it on a Word document.
You gave it to me.
It is a table in a word document so the formatting is screwed up here, but I'll post it. I can email the Word doc too those who ask. I will try to get the document hosted so all can see it properly.


Identifying 1st UK Editions
First Edition, First Printing.
Title
Publisher
Date
Price on dust jacket
Copyright Information
Misc. Information
Size
Carrie
New English Library
1974
£2.50
First NEL Hardcover edition 1974
Between 600 and 1000 printed
8.5 X 5.75
Salem's Lot
New English Library
1976
£3.95
First published in Great Britain by New English Library

8.5 X 5.75
The Shining
New English Library
1977
£4.95
First published in Great Britain by New English Library
R49 IN GUTTER OF P447
8.5 X 5.75
Night Shift
New English Library
1978
£4.95
First published in Great Britain by New English Library

8.5 X 5.75
The Stand
New English Library
1979
£6.95
First published in Great Britain by New English Library
Fewer than 1000 printed
8.5 X 5.75
The Dead Zone
MacDonald
1979
£5.95
First published in Great Britain in 1979 by MacDonald General Books
1st has M & J RAVEN On spine
9.5 X 6.25
Firestarter
MacDonald
1980
£6.50
First published in Great Britain in 1980 by MacDonald * London & Sydney

9.5 X 6.25
The Long Walk
New English Library
1980
£1.25
First NEL Paperback Edition September 1980

7 X 4.5
Danse Macabre
MacDonald
1981
£8.95
First published in Great Britain in 1981 by MacDonald * London & Sydney
Fewer than 1000 printed
9.5 X 6.5
Cujo
MacDonald
1982
£6.95
First published in Great Britain in 1982 by MacDonald & Co (Publishers) Ltd
Export copy has no price, but MacDonald stated on spine
9.5 X 6.25
Different Seasons
MacDonald
1982
£8.95
First published in Great Britain in 1982 by MacDonald & Co (Publishers) Ltd

9.5 X 6.25
The Running Man
New English Library
1983
£1.75
First NEL Paperback Edition December 1983

7 X 4.5
Christine
Hodder & Stoughton
1983
£8.95
First Printed in Great Britain 1983
12000 printed
9.5 X 6.25
Pet Semetary
Hodder & Stoughton
1983
£8.95
First printed 1983
15000 printed
9.5 X 6.25
Rage
New English Library
1983
£1.50
First NEL Paperback Edition February 1983

7 X 4.5
Roadwork
New English Library
1983
£1.50
First NEL Paperback Edition February 1983

7 X 4.5
The Talisman
Viking
1984
£9.95
First published 1984

9.5 X 6.25
Thinner
New English Library
1985
£9.95
First published in Great Britain in 1985 by New English Library
Look out for original Yellow Band around the book - 15000 printed
9.5 X 6.25
Skeleton Crew
MacDonald
1985
£9.95
First published in Great Britain in 1985 by MacDonald & Co (Publishers) Ltd

9.5 X 6.25
The Bachman Books
New English Library
1985
£10.95
First published in 1986 by New English Library
2000 printed
9.5 X 6.25
The Cycle of the Werewolf
New English Library
1985
£4.95
First NEL Paperback Edition September 1985

9.25 X 6.5
IT
Hodder & Stoughton
1986
£12.95
First Printed 1986

9.5 X 6.25
IT Collectors Edition
New English Library
1987
£4.50
New English Library Paperback Edition 1987, Special Collectors Edition 1987
2000 copies
7 X 4.5
The Eyes of the Dragon
MacDonald
1987
£10.95
First published in Great Britain in 1987 by MacDonald & Co (Publishers) Ltd

9.5 X 6.25
Misery
Hodder & Stoughton
1987
£11.95
First Printed 1987

9.5 X 6.25
The Tommyknockers
Hodder & Stoughton
1988
£12.95
First printed 1988

9.5 X 6.25
The Gunsliner
Sphere
1988
£6.99
First published by Sphere Books Ltd 1988

8.5 X 5.25
The Drawing of the Three
Sphere
1989
£6.99
First published by Sphere Books Ltd 1989

8.5 X 5.25
The Dark Half
Hodder & Stoughton
1989
£12.95
First published in Great Britain 1989

9.5 X 6.25
Four Past Midnight
Hodder & Stoughton
1990
£14.99
First published in Great Britain 1990

9.5 X 6.25
The Stand: Complete and Uncut
Hodder & Stoughton
1990
£14.95
This edition first published in Great Britain by Hodder & Stoughton 1990

9.5 X 6.25
Needful Things
Hodder & Stoughton
1991
£15.95
This edition first published in Great Britain 1991

9.5 X 6.25
The Wastelands
Sphere
1992
£8.99
First published in Great Britain by Sphere Books Ltd in 1992

8.5 X 5.25
Gerald's Game (Book Club)
Book Club Associates
1992
None
This edition published 1992 by BCA by arrangement with Hodder & Stoughton Ltd
World 1st Ed
8 X 5.25
Gerald's Game
Hodder & Stoughton
1992
£14.99
First published in Great Britain 1992

9.5 X 6.25
Dolores Claiborne (Book Club)
Book Club Associates
1992
None
This edition published 1992 by BCA by arrangement with Hodder & Stoughton Ltd
World 1st Ed
8 X 5.25
Dolores Claiborne (Gift Edition)
Hodder & Stoughton
1993

Bookplate with facsimile signature & slipcase cloth no dustjacket
2000 Printed
9.75 X 6.5
Dolores Claiborne
Hodder & Stoughton
1993
£14.95
First published in Great Britain 1993

9.5 X 6.25
Nightmares and Dreamscapes (Gift Edition)
Hodder & Stoughton
1993
£35.00
Bookplate with facsimile signature & slipcase cloth no dustjacket
2000 Printed
9.75 X 6.5
Nightmares and Dreamscapes
Hodder & Stoughton
1993
£16.99
First published in Great Britain 1993
First State - £15.99 price and illustration facing page 448.
Second State - £16.99 price and illustration facing page 433
9.5 X 6.25
Insomnia (Limited Edition)
Hodder & Stoughton
1993
None
First published in Great Britain in 1994 by Hodder and Stoughton Ltd (10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1)
Bookplate Special Limited Edition of 200 numbered copies, signed by the author. #/200
9.5 X 6.25
Insomnia (Gift Edition)
Hodder & Stoughton
1994
£35.00
Bookplate with facsimile signature & slipcase cloth no dustjacket
2000 Printed
9.75 X 6.5
Carrie / Tommyknockers
Hodder & Stoughton
1994
None
This collected volume first published in Great Britain in 1994 (10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 )

9.75 X 6.5
Insomnia
Hodder & Stoughton
1994
£15.99
First published in Great Britain in 1994 by Hodder and Stoughton Ltd (10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1)

9.5 X 6.25
Rose Madder (Limited Edition)
Hodder & Stoughton
1995
None
First published in Great Britain in 1995 by Hodder and Stoughton
Bookplate Special Limited Edition of 250 numbered copies, signed by the author. #/250
9.75 X 6.5
Rose Madder (1st State)
Hodder & Stoughton
1995
£16.99
First published in Great Britain in 1995 by Hodder and Stoughton Ltd (10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1)
Black End Papers
9.5 X 6.25
Rose Madder (2nd State)
Hodder & Stoughton
1995
£16.99
First published in Great Britain in 1995 by Hodder and Stoughton Ltd (10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1)
Pictorial End Papers
9.5 X 6.25
The Green Mile 1
Penguin
1996
£1.99
Published simultaneously in the USA in Signet and in Great Britain in Penguin Books 1996
(1 3 5 7 9 10 8 6 4 2)

7 X 4.5
The Green Mile 2
Penguin
1996
£1.99
(1 3 5 7 9 10 8 6 4 2)

7 X 4.5
The Green Mile 3
Penguin
1996
£1.99
(1 3 5 7 9 10 8 6 4 2)

7 X 4.5
The Green Mile 4
Penguin
1996
£1.99
(1 3 5 7 9 10 8 6 4 2)

7 X 4.5
The Green Mile 5
Penguin
1996
£1.99
(1 3 5 7 9 10 8 6 4 2)

7 X 4.5
The Green Mile 6
Penguin
1996
£1.99
(1 3 5 7 9 10 8 6 4 2)

7 X 4.5
Umney's Last Case
Penguin
1996
60p
This edition published in Great Britain 1996
Black Cover, Orange Spine
5.5 X 4.25
Desperation & Regulators (Limited Edition)
Hodder & Stoughton
1996
None
First published in Great Britain in 1996 by Hodder & Stoughton (10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1)
(Both)
Bookplate Special Limited Edition of 250 numbered copies, signed by the author. #/250
9.5 X 6.25
9.5 X 6.25
Desperation
Hodder & Stoughton
1996
£16.99
First published in Great Britain in 1996 by Hodder & Stoughton (10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1)

9.5 X 6.25
The Regulators
Hodder & Stoughton
1996
£16.99
First published in Great Britain in 1996 by Hodder & Stoughton (10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1)

9.5 X 6.25
Wizard & Glass (Limited Edition)
Hodder & Stoughton
1997
None
First Published in Great Britain in 1997 by Hodder & Stoughton (10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1)
Bookplate Special Limited Edition of 500 numbered copies, signed by the author. #/500
9.5 X 6.25
Wizard & Glass
Hodder & Stoughton
1997
£14.99
First Published in Great Britain in 1997 by Hodder & Stoughton (10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1)
Paperback with French Wraps
9.5 X 6
Wizard & Glass
Hodder & Stoughton
1997
None
First Published in Great Britain in 1997 by Hodder & Stoughton (10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1)
Full Size Export Copy not released in the UK
9.5 X 6.25
Wizard & Glass (Book Club)
Book Club Associates
1997
None
This edition published 1997 by BCA by arrangement with Hodder & Stoughton Ltd
First & Only HB in the UK
8 X 5.25
The Green Mile Complete
Orion
1998
£10.99
This edition first published in Great Britain in 1998 by Orion
(Paperback)
9.25 X 6
Bag of Bones (Limited Edition)
Hodder & Stoughton
1998
£16.99
First published in Great Britain in 1998 by Hodder & Stoughton (10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1)
Bookplate 2000 numbered copies, signed by the author to commemorate his visit to the U.K. in August, 1998. #/2000
9.5 X 6.25
Bag of Bones
Hodder & Stoughton
1998
£16.99
First published in Great Britain in 1998 by Hodder & Stoughton (10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1)

9.5 X 6.25
The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon
Hodder & Stoughton
1999
£12.99
First published in Great Britain in 1998 by Hodder & Stoughton (10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1)

8.75 X 5.5
Hearts in Atlantis
Hodder & Stoughton
1999
£17.99
First published in Great Britain in 1998 by Hodder & Stoughton (10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1)

9.5 X 6.25
On Writing
Hodder & Stoughton
2000
£16.99
First published in Great Britain in 2000 by Hodder & Stoughton (10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1)

9.5 X 6.25
The Green Mile Complete
Orion
2000
£16.99
This Hardback edition published 2000

9.5 X 6.25
Dreamcatcher
Hodder & Stoughton
2001
£17.99
First published in Great Britain in 2001 by Hodder & Stoughton (10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1)

9.5 X 6.25
Black House (Black State)
Harper Collins
2001
£17.99
Pubished by HarperCollins Publishers 2001 (1 3 5 7 9 8 6 4 2)
50,000
9.5 X 6.25
Black House (White State)
Harper Collins
2001
£17.99
Pubished by HarperCollins Publishers 2001 (1 3 5 7 9 8 6 4 2)
50,000
9.5 X 6.25
Everything's Eventual
Hodder & Stoughton
2002
£17.99
First published in Great Britain in 2002 by Hodder & Stoughton (1 3 5 7 9 8 6 4 2)

9.5 X 6.25
From a Buick 8
Hodder & Stoughton
2002
£17.99
First published in Great Britain in 2002 by Hodder & Stoughton (1 3 5 7 9 8 6 4 2)

9.5 X 6.25
The Wolves of the Calla
Hodder & Stoughton
2003
£25.00
First published in Great Britain in 2004 by Hodder & Stoughton 'First Edition'

9.5 X 6.25
Song of Susannah
Hodder & Stoughton
2004
£20.00
First published in Great Britain in 2004 by Hodder & Stoughton 'First Edition'

9.5 X 6.25
The Dark Tower
Hodder & Stoughton
2004
£25.00
First published in Great Britain in 2004 by Hodder & Stoughton 'First Edition'

9.5 X 6.25
Faithful
Weidenfeld & Nicolson
2005
£12.99
First published in Great Britian in 2005 by Weidenfeld & Nicolson

9.5 X 6.25
Cell
Hodder & Stoughton
2006
£17.99
First published in Great Britain in 2006 by Hodder & Stoughton 'First Edition'

9.5 X 6.25
‘Salem’s Lot Illustrated Edition
Hodder & Stoughton

£20.00
This edition published in 2006. (number 1)

9.5 X 6.25
Lisey’s Story
Hodder & Stoughton
2006
£17.99
First published in Great Britain in 2006 by Hodder & Stoughton 'First Edition'

9.5 X 6.25
Blaze
Hodder & Stoughton
2007
£16.99
First published in Great Britain in 2007 by Hodder & Stoughton 'First Edition'

8.75 X 5.5

[Randall Flagg]

Link to view document: (http://docs.google.com/View?id=ddtvpprm_0hqshfjcn)

[biomieg]

Mr. RT, will you also be selling your proofs, or are you going to keep your collection as it is and simply stop buying new proofs?

[biomieg]

Thanks for the UK list by the way! :)

[Hutch]

I like to think I follow the auctions closely. However, I didn't notice either of those or I would have bid on them myself. They are outstanding buys that somehow managed to slip through the cracks.

Thus I don't believe they are a true reflection of today's market.

Was I the only one that never saw these when they were originally offered for auction?


The bottom has fell out of the Proofs market recently. A lot of collectors have given up collecting them. (Myself and kacod are 2 from this site.)
Recent ebay sales have been poor:
Bag of Bones Manuscript sold for $139.
http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-STEPHEN-KING-Manuscript-Bag-of-Bones-RARE-1st-ed_W0QQitemZ110477080161QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAntiqua rian_Collectible?hash=item19b8f27661

Blaze Proof sold for $98
http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-Stephen-King-BLAZE-ARC-1st-ed-Richard-Bachman_W0QQitemZ110477081873QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAn tiquarian_Collectible?hash=item19b8f27d11

[biomieg]

I saw them. The seller listed these and also a Regulators proof, a Desperation proof, and a Bag of Bones Collector's Magazine. No reserve. Some people got themselves a good deal indeed!

[jhanic]

I didn't see them either.

I agree with Mr. R.T.'s statement that prices have declined--but not just in proofs but in most King items, though. The market has softened substantially in recent years. I don't know if that's a result of declining interest or simply the economic situation. Only time will tell, I guess.

John

[Matt]

I can host that word doc on the site if you want Jerome. Then we can link it like the PDF's for comics lists.

[Eric719691]

I like to think I follow the auctions closely. However, I didn't notice either of those or I would have bid on them myself. They are outstanding buys that somehow managed to slip through the cracks.

Thus I don't believe they are a true reflection of today's market.

Was I the only one that never saw these when they were originally offered for auction?


The bottom has fell out of the Proofs market recently. A lot of collectors have given up collecting them. (Myself and kacod are 2 from this site.)
Recent ebay sales have been poor:
Bag of Bones Manuscript sold for $139.
http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-STEPHEN-KING-Manuscript-Bag-of-Bones-RARE-1st-ed_W0QQitemZ110477080161QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAntiqua rian_Collectible?hash=item19b8f27661

Blaze Proof sold for $98
http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-Stephen-King-BLAZE-ARC-1st-ed-Richard-Bachman_W0QQitemZ110477081873QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAn tiquarian_Collectible?hash=item19b8f27d11

I saw these and my final bid was not quite high enough to buy these. I did end up buying the Hearts in Atlantis proof and On Writing proof from the same seller. Got both of those proofs for 36.00 combined.

[biomieg]

Jerome, I don't have access to the document. Is it still online?

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Mr. RT, will you also be selling your proofs, or are you going to keep your collection as it is and simply stop buying new proofs?

I stopped buying them a while ago, and I will keep what I've got in my collection.

[Randall Flagg]

Jerome, I don't have access to the document. Is it still online?
I think I fixed the link.
http://docs.google.com/View?id=ddtvpprm_0hqshfjcn

[jhanic]

Works for me!

John

[namelessnpoor]

Does anyone have or is there a list on here somewhere of all the gift editions, UK and US ?

[jhanic]

Just what do you mean by "gift editions", Rusty? Do you include the Artist's Editions of the last three DT books, the Collector's Editions of Just After Sunset and Under the Dome? I've taken to considering any edition that is NOT either a trade edition or signed limited as a gift edition, myself.

John

[namelessnpoor]

Just what do you mean by "gift editions", Rusty? Do you include the Artist's Editions of the last three DT books, the Collector's Editions of Just After Sunset and Under the Dome? I've taken to considering any edition that is NOT either a trade edition or signed limited as a gift edition, myself.

John

Yeah, i guess that is what i mean, i kow some books are put out as gift editions, but basically and edition that is not a trade or signed limited. I wa curious as to what i am missing in regards to those, i never paid a lot of attention to those editions, and most are quite affordable now days, so i was considering picking up a few. Most can be found for under thier original sale price.

[ChristineB]

Does anyone have or is there a list on here somewhere of all the gift editions, UK and US ?

The collectors site would be a good place to find this info. www.skcollector.com.

[namelessnpoor]

Does anyone have or is there a list on here somewhere of all the gift editions, UK and US ?

The collectors site would be a good place to find this info. www.skcollector.com.

Good Idea ! i a on there all the time and why it didn't cross my mind i have no idea ! thanks

[namelessnpoor]

Guys...where can I find a list for identifying first editions? I think I have seen a list somewhere that was on a spreadsheet. Anybody have a copy?

Thanks!

I'd like to see someone who is knowledgeable set up a list for UK first editions. I don't think any exists now, though I could be mistaken.

John



On The Collectors website there is list for identifying UK firsts and also one for US firsts i believe

[Patrick]

Does anyone have or is there a list on here somewhere of all the gift editions, UK and US ?

The collectors site would be a good place to find this info. www.skcollector.com.

Good Idea ! i a on there all the time and why it didn't cross my mind i have no idea ! thanks
At the risk of stating the obvious, we have the King's Collectible Catalog (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/forumdisplay.php?f=124) right here in Calvin's Corner that includes information on, and photos of, all of these volumes.

[Randall Flagg]

Does anyone have or is there a list on here somewhere of all the gift editions, UK and US ?

The collectors site would be a good place to find this info. www.skcollector.com (http://www.skcollector.com).

Good Idea ! i a on there all the time and why it didn't cross my mind i have no idea ! thanks
At the risk of stating the obvious, we have the King's Collectible Catalog (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/forumdisplay.php?f=124) right here in Calvin's Corner that includes information on, and photos of, all of these volumes.
Thanks Patrick. I worked long and hard on that Catalog. Hopefully it will be of great use to members.

[namelessnpoor]

I have been using the catalog, but there is no list for the gift editions that i could find. i foud a thread title gift editions but it was blank.
As for the the list to identify true first editons, a list that states all the oints to look for, such as gutter codes etc... We don't seem to have one for UK firsts. someone was enquiring about a list like that, i noticed todat that there is such a list on the Collectors webpage. It title Identifying Uk first editions.

Jeromes catalog is great, it was quite helpful to me today in determinig what i need to look for, so thank you Jerome.

[Randall Flagg]

I have been using the catalog, but there is no list for the gift editions that i could find. i foud a thread title gift editions but it was blank.
As for the the list to identify true first editons, a list that states all the oints to look for, such as gutter codes etc... We don't seem to have one for UK firsts. someone was enquiring about a list like that, i noticed todat that there is such a list on the Collectors webpage. It title Identifying Uk first editions.

Jeromes catalog is great, it was quite helpful to me today in determinig what i need to look for, so thank you Jerome.
They used to be separated, but the Wiki software we used was causing problems with the site. We are currently working on a fix. Right now it is a bit cumbersome.
I am working on a temporary solution.

EDIT:
I added a comment to the Gift and Artist Editions (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showwiki.php?title=Collectibles:Gift+and+Artist+Ed itions)
thread. It lists Gift, Artist and Collector's editions.
It should be under the discussion tab.

[jhanic]

Guys...where can I find a list for identifying first editions? I think I have seen a list somewhere that was on a spreadsheet. Anybody have a copy?

Thanks!

I'd like to see someone who is knowledgeable set up a list for UK first editions. I don't think any exists now, though I could be mistaken.

John



On The Collectors website there is list for identifying UK firsts and also one for US firsts i believe

Here's the updated (through Just After Sunset) link for identifying UK firsts from The Collector:

http://www.stephenkingcollector.com/identifyingUK1st.html

John

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Here's the updated (through Just After Sunset) link for identifying UK firsts from The Collector:

http://www.stephenkingcollector.com/identifyingUK1st.html

John

That's the list I gave Thomas.

[Randall Flagg]

Here's the updated (through Just After Sunset) link for identifying UK firsts from The Collector:

http://www.stephenkingcollector.com/identifyingUK1st.html

John

That's the list I gave Thomas.
If you send me the updated Word doc, I will load it up to Google documents.

[Patrick]

Very good of you, Mr. R.T.!

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Link to: Identifying 1st UK Editions (http://www.akyle.f2s.com/uk_firsts.html)

[jhanic]

Thanks, Mr. R.T. Invaluable information!

John

[artan]

Astonishing work Mr. Rabbit Trick, thanks a lot!!

:clap::clap::clap::clap:

[Randall Flagg]

Thanks so much.

[wizardsrainbow]

OK, collectors, I need your help once again on pricing. I have been approached by a collector who wants to consign three rare items through me. I'd like your input on what a "fair" current market price would be.

Complete Same-number DT S/L set + matching LSOE (#245) - The last two sets I saw traded at just shy of $10k. Still, would like input from you.

Salem's Lot Lettered edition - Black Roman Numeral XIII (Black 13!) - These trade so rarely, like the Asbestos Firestarter. The last one I remember traded at $7000 I think, but that was 4 years ago at least. Pricing thoughts?

Lettered Regulators (TT) - My thoughts are around $3500, but want input from all of you.

Many thanks for the help!

[Sam]

My question to you, David, is did the last two sets you saw traded consist of the same (matching set + matching # LSOE). From your description I would say they did. If the other two were the same, I would say your target price is most likely going to be around $10-$12K, maybe a little more, but certainly not over $15K at the absolute most. I lean toward the low end, but that has more to do with the economic issues many of us are facing than anything else.

I was going to say I had no opinion about the others, but I actually do.

The Regulators Limited has generally been just above The Stand in price (though with the Regulators Lettered being much more rare, I can't say why) and I really think it has often been under priced. It is a truly beautiful book and right up there with the Asbestos Firestarter as an art piece, not to mention it is signed by Bachman and not King. BUT, there are twice as many of the Regulators as there are Firestarter, and it is 16 years younger. Therefore, the price is certainly going to be lower, but should it really be that much lower? A Lettered Firestarter is going to bring around $15,000, and I see no reason why the Lettered Regulators shouldn't bring $5000 if your willing to sit on it for a little while. At $3500, I would think it would sell rather quickly, but I can't say anything for certain the way things are now. For myself, I would price it at $5000, but would take an offer of $4000 in a heartbeat.

The Salem's Lot though... that's a stumper. Here is what Tomas lists on his site about this particular book.
25 deluxe copies ... Fifteen of these massive books (numbered I - XV in black ink) were available for sale, the others were numbered I - X in red ink. With only fifteen copies of those available, and with the sale of this book such a rarity, I think you should go with at least $7K for it. Maybe even $8K if it's in pristine condition. The rarity of this item, in my opinion, throws out any effect the poor economy has had to the collecting world.

Those are my thoughts looking at it from a sellers point of view. As a buyer, I think I am completely out of touch with reality and ALL of those should be discounted deeply due to the economic issues we all have faced. The DT set should be around $5000, the Salem's Lot about $2K, and the Regulators you'll never be able to sell for more than $800. It'll hurt some,but I think I can help you with that book and take it off your hands for that. In fact, I'll be nice and give you $850 for it even though I'd be overpaying.:P

[Dolan]

hummm... David - if you are asking the buying price that you should pay HIM my thoughts are similar to yours.

$10k for the DT set
$6-7k for Salems'
$2.5k for Regulators
(I base this on current economic standards, of course)

The thing is that I am guessing you are doing this to re-sell right? So you need to make a profit somewhere. If the seller wants to sell these three items together, there has to be a deal in it for you somewhere.

I'd say call it an even $15k for the whole lot and then mark up as you see fit.

[Dolan]

That Salems' Lot is a ddddddddddddream of mine :drool:

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

The prices on Thomas's site are mostly correct. A lot of research goes into this. Here's Thomas' estimates:

'Salem's Lot Lettered $6500 to $7500
Regulators Lettered $3750 to $5000

You would be lucky to get more than $10,000 for the DT set. There has been one on sale at Betts for a couple of years with no takers at $15,000.

Sales on ebay will be a lot lower. That's why I buy 90% of my books from there.

Getting a buyer might be a harder prospect. There are dozens of sellers, but very few high end buyers.

[biomieg]

Just to get this straight: 'consignment' means that David will act as an intermediate between the seller and the potential buyers, and earn a percentual fee if the books sell? That's what I've always understood it to be anyway but please correct me if I'm wrong :)

[turtlex]

Just to get this straight: 'consignment' means that David will act as an intermediate between the seller and the potential buyers, and earn a percentual fee if the books sell? That's what I've always understood it to be anyway but please correct me if I'm wrong :)

That sounds about right.

David will list the books on his site ( www.bettsbooks.com ) and then collect a fee when they sell.

[biomieg]

Okay thanks Pam :) my English is not too bad but sometimes I'm just not sure about the exact meaning of a word.

[turtlex]

:grouphug: :thumbsup:

Your Engligh is great, btw.

[Randall Flagg]

I agree with Mr. Rabbit Trick.