Stephen King Collecting Questions

[Merlin1958]

Never post immediately following P/T. I'm always a bit grumpy right after, Nurse Ratchet has her way with me!!! :wtf:

[TCCBodhi]

Well, just get a little stronger every day until you can rip that sink out, throw it through the window and make your escape! :)

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

That signature kind of flows easily, as if he was on something mellow :) This one, from around the same time, looks more like he was on something more bitter. :)

http://www.akyle.f2s.com/images/danse_us1.jpg

[zelig]

I would buy it. What book is it in?

Thanks for all the feedback! Interesting to see what you all thought of the signature.This is in a Firestarter proof.

[Br!an]

Do we have a thread or list for paperback first editions?

[zelig]

Do we have a thread or list for paperback first editions?

Not that I know of. There should be one for sure. I like to collect the paperback 1sts.

[Randall Flagg]

Do we have a thread or list for paperback first editions?



Do we have a thread or list for paperback first editions?

Not that I know of. There should be one for sure. I like to collect the paperback 1sts.


Stop creating work for me. I'm here 10 hours a day as it is.
:P

[zelig]

Only 10?! That's not enough. I think I'm gonna go create a new paperback thread now! :smile:

[needfulthings]

Only 10?! That's not enough. I think I'm gonna go create a new paperback thread now! :smile:

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
http://imageshack.com/a/img540/1921/EVJiAn.jpg
:frown2:
an not a king 1st in the batch.:P

[zelig]

Always floored by that pic.

[Roseannebarr]

Do we have a thread or list for paperback first editions?


[QUOTE=Br!an;948028]Do we have a thread or list for paperback first editions?

Not that I know of. There should be one for sure. I like to collect the paperback 1sts.


Stop creating work for me. I'm here 10 hours a day as it is.
:P[/QUOT


I made a list with price and isbn it's in a thread somewhere

[Br!an]

Do we have a thread or list for paperback first editions?

Not that I know of. There should be one for sure. I like to collect the paperback 1sts.


Stop creating work for me. I'm here 10 hours a day as it is.
:P


I made a list with price and isbn it's in a thread somewhere

:orely: You might need to narrow that down a wee bit.

[Br!an]

I found it in the Wiki.

http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showwiki.php?title=ISBN-Stephen+King+U+S+1st+Editions&do=comments

I'll continue my discussion there.

[zelig]

I found it in the Wiki.

http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showwiki.php?title=ISBN-Stephen+King+U+S+1st+Editions&do=comments

I'll continue my discussion there.

Nice find!

[KingKorn]

Not sure, but FWIW I wouldn't want it in my collection. Fugly at best. IMHO



I would buy it. What book is it in?

I thought it was a legit sig. Good to get an experts take. I too am curious to know the title.


You can't have it both ways. Granted you didn't say it was bogus, but you said it was "Fugly".

It's a legit inscription and signature and IMO beautiful, not (paraphrasing here), "fucking ugly" as you said.

That seems a wee harsh. To each their own, I thought. Beauty is in eye of the beholder, etc. He qualified his evaluation of the sig's aesthetics as being in his "humble opinion". One opinion among many, offering it honestly, and never implying that fugly = fake. There are many legit SK sigs (particularly flat signs or inscriptions) that come down to the collector's taste.

If a sig isn't part of an S/L that usually includes upgraded book materials, then it's just a signed trade, and all one pays more for is the perceived beauty and veracity of a signature. And the beauty part is always subjective. Hence zelig's question.

[Papaseraphim]

What's the opinion on this signature. Looks legit to me, but wanted to ask the experts here.

http://i933.photobucket.com/albums/ad175/papaseraphim/IMG_2385.jpg (http://s933.photobucket.com/user/papaseraphim/media/IMG_2385.jpg.html)

[jonp]

Looks good to me.

[Jimimck]

Looks good to me too.

[jhanic]

Looks okay to me.

John

[zelig]

Would look better to me if it were on my shelf.

[Papaseraphim]

:P


Would look better to me if it were on my shelf.

[Papaseraphim]

Thanks guys!

[zelig]

:P


Would look better to me if it were on my shelf.

Good luck. Hope you get it!

[jsmcmullen92]

When Night Shift came out was the cover white or beige? From all the 1st editions I have seen they almost look beige and the BCE editions have both.

[biomieg]

I would say it was 'off-white' and many DJs sort of tanned/discolored over time. My 1st/1st is definitely not beige but neither is it really white.

[needfulthings]

Scan of 1st Edition with sheet of white paper.
http://imageshack.com/a/img673/8767/3e70Z1.jpg

[jsmcmullen92]

Perfect thanks Michael and Bruce! Great information as always.

[biomieg]

Yes, that's what mine looks like as well.

[Roseannebarr]

I dont even think i want to ask this question. But is there real books out there for the following titles. VJ Books has them listed as CHAPBooks

Chapbooks

Silver Bullet (1985) Own this one
My Pretty Pony (1989) I assume they are talking about the giant red book
The Library Policeman (1991) OOOH OOOH am i missing something?
Lawnmower Man (1992) Why is this called a chapbook?
Umney's Last Case (1995) Got this one Thank you!
Apt Pupil (1998) OOOOH OOOH another missing book?
Quitter's Inc. (1999) and another missing?
LT's Theory of Pets (2001) and another????

[jsmcmullen92]

I dont even think i want to ask this question. But is there real books out there for the following titles. VJ Books has them listed as CHAPBooks

Chapbooks

Silver Bullet (1985) Own this one
My Pretty Pony (1989) I assume they are talking about the giant red book
The Library Policeman (1991) OOOH OOOH am i missing something?
Lawnmower Man (1992) Why is this called a chapbook?
Umney's Last Case (1995) Got this one Thank you!
Apt Pupil (1998) OOOOH OOOH another missing book?
Quitter's Inc. (1999) and another missing?
LT's Theory of Pets (2001) and another????

All of them you are missing only exist independently that I have seen as audio books

[stroppygoblin]

I dont even think i want to ask this question. But is there real books out there for the following titles. VJ Books has them listed as CHAPBooks

Chapbooks

Silver Bullet (1985) Own this one
My Pretty Pony (1989) I assume they are talking about the giant red book
The Library Policeman (1991) OOOH OOOH am i missing something?
Lawnmower Man (1992) Why is this called a chapbook?
Umney's Last Case (1995) Got this one Thank you!
Apt Pupil (1998) OOOOH OOOH another missing book?
Quitter's Inc. (1999) and another missing?
LT's Theory of Pets (2001) and another????

I think most of us have those as 1st edition hardbacks, I'm surprised you don't know about them... ;)




Seriously though.. I think VJ books may have these listed incorrectly.
Silver Bullet is available as a 1st/1st paperback
My Pretty Pony has several states including a small advertising pamphlet that could be deemed 'chapbook'
The Library Poilceman/Apt Pupil/Quitters Inc and LT's Theory of Pets were all made available as stand alone Audio Books
The Lawnmower Man is available as a Comicbook
Umney's last Case is available as a UK or US Penguin Book

EDIT: just found this link (http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/k/stephen-king/library-policeman.htm)to TLP - note the site also describes it as a 'chapbook' even though it is an Audio Book.

[zelig]

I agree with Simon. Must be a listing error.

[jonp]

I maybe wrong but wasn't Apt pupil etc made available individually a small paperback chapbooks in the UK. Or am I dreaming?

[stroppygoblin]

ah Jon is correct! See here (http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/k/stephen-king/apt-pupil.htm) for the Apt Pupil paperback. Released on the back of the film by the looks of it.

[zelig]

Oh yes. I've seen that cover before. Movie tie-in.

[jonp]

There is list of the others under the chapbook section.

http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/k/stephen-king/

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

ah Jon is correct! See here (http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/k/stephen-king/apt-pupil.htm) for the Apt Pupil paperback. Released on the back of the film by the looks of it.

Wrong. That is Different Seasons paperback, with Apt Pupil cover only. Def not a chapbook.

[jonp]

If you click on to the individual pictures some are audiobooks

[zelig]

How about that new box set I didn't know about. Will have to preorder that.

[stroppygoblin]

ah Jon is correct! See here (http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/k/stephen-king/apt-pupil.htm) for the Apt Pupil paperback. Released on the back of the film by the looks of it.

Wrong. That is Different Seasons paperback, with Apt Pupil cover only. Def not a chapbook.

Alan is (as always) correct, You can see on the spine that it is actually the full Different Seasons:

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjQ1WDE1NzY=/z/bRQAAOSwHnFVlxxw/$_57.JPG

[jonp]

Yes, I remember seeing the Apt Pupil cover. That's probably what I was thinking of

[needfulthings]

Suffer the Little Children (Advance Excerpt Chapbook) 6"x 9" 16 pages.
http://imageshack.com/a/img538/9195/ul2SCe.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img673/8729/abMNf1.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img537/5076/02UphP.jpg

Books on tape, Silver Bullet & My Pretty Pony are NOT chapbooks The Monkey & The Raft....ARE

http://imageshack.com/a/img661/1903/4NN92S.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img661/4851/pt3RNA.jpg

[Br!an]

I don't normally collect magazines.

I do have the Gallery with The Monkey chapbook in it though.

I would like to find the Gallery with The Raft in it in fine condition. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink.

[Roseannebarr]

Thank you everyone for answers above!

New Collecting Question/Statement...

Just left my local Barnes and Noble and saw on the discount table, beautiful copies of Dr. Sleep $6.98, Lisey's Story $5.98 and another SK book. What was extremely strange is they were published by Schribner, NO PRICE on the Cover. and no print line on the copy right page. My first thought was Book Club editions, but they had so many.... is this a new way of doing discounted books at B&N? No price! Any one know for sure?

[zelig]

Thank you everyone for answers above!

New Collecting Question/Statement...

Just left my local Barnes and Noble and saw on the discount table, beautiful copies of Dr. Sleep $6.98, Lisey's Story $5.98 and another SK book. What was extremely strange is they were published by Schribner, NO PRICE on the Cover. and no print line on the copy right page. My first thought was Book Club editions, but they had so many.... is this a new way of doing discounted books at B&N? No price! Any one know for sure?

Just saw these myself the other day and was wondering the same thing. There was also a From a Buick 8 in shrinkwrap and "Scribner International" on the spine. Seems to me these are printed this way for the bargain bin. Or maybe someone has more insight into this.

[ELazansky]

Thank you everyone for answers above!

New Collecting Question/Statement...

Just left my local Barnes and Noble and saw on the discount table, beautiful copies of Dr. Sleep $6.98, Lisey's Story $5.98 and another SK book. What was extremely strange is they were published by Schribner, NO PRICE on the Cover. and no print line on the copy right page. My first thought was Book Club editions, but they had so many.... is this a new way of doing discounted books at B&N? No price! Any one know for sure?

Just saw these myself the other day and was wondering the same thing. There was also a From a Buick 8 in shrinkwrap and "Scribner International" on the spine. Seems to me these are printed this way for the bargain bin. Or maybe someone has more insight into this.

My B&N has them as well. I bought the Buick 8 since it has the poster, and I didn't have that before. It has a bar code on the back with the same ISBN is the picture shown in the Catalog, but it looks different. It also says Scribner International on the spine:

http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa411/ELazansky/Mobile%20Uploads/Buick_zpsaxlnmyuz.jpg

[Drake69]

Thank you everyone for answers above!

New Collecting Question/Statement...

Just left my local Barnes and Noble and saw on the discount table, beautiful copies of Dr. Sleep $6.98, Lisey's Story $5.98 and another SK book. What was extremely strange is they were published by Schribner, NO PRICE on the Cover. and no print line on the copy right page. My first thought was Book Club editions, but they had so many.... is this a new way of doing discounted books at B&N? No price! Any one know for sure?

Just saw these myself the other day and was wondering the same thing. There was also a From a Buick 8 in shrinkwrap and "Scribner International" on the spine. Seems to me these are printed this way for the bargain bin. Or maybe someone has more insight into this.

My B&N has them as well. I bought the Buick 8 since it has the poster, and I didn't have that before. It has a bar code on the back with the same ISBN is the picture shown in the Catalog, but it looks different. It also says Scribner International on the spine:

http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa411/ELazansky/Mobile%20Uploads/Buick_zpsaxlnmyuz.jpg

The white page in the Buick 8 shrinkwrapped book is a "signed" poster of the front cover by Stephen King, which is obviously a print and not handwritten.

[Br!an]

I saw them. Saw no price and assumed Book Club. I've seen this before a few times but not with so many at once.

I'll have to see if there are any FAB8 there. I'd like the poster.

[ELazansky]

Thank you everyone for answers above!

New Collecting Question/Statement...

Just left my local Barnes and Noble and saw on the discount table, beautiful copies of Dr. Sleep $6.98, Lisey's Story $5.98 and another SK book. What was extremely strange is they were published by Schribner, NO PRICE on the Cover. and no print line on the copy right page. My first thought was Book Club editions, but they had so many.... is this a new way of doing discounted books at B&N? No price! Any one know for sure?

Just saw these myself the other day and was wondering the same thing. There was also a From a Buick 8 in shrinkwrap and "Scribner International" on the spine. Seems to me these are printed this way for the bargain bin. Or maybe someone has more insight into this.

My B&N has them as well. I bought the Buick 8 since it has the poster, and I didn't have that before. It has a bar code on the back with the same ISBN is the picture shown in the Catalog, but it looks different. It also says Scribner International on the spine:

http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa411/ELazansky/Mobile%20Uploads/Buick_zpsaxlnmyuz.jpg

The white page in the Buick 8 shrinkwrapped book is a "signed" poster of the front cover by Stephen King, which is obviously a print and not handwritten.

I know the signature on the poster is not real. I just did not have a copy of the poster.

[ELazansky]

I saw them. Saw no price and assumed Book Club. I've seen this before a few times but not with so many at once.

I'll have to see if there are any FAB8 there. I'd like the poster.

Ill probably be at B&N later this week. I can certainly pick you up one if they still have them.

[jhanic]

As far as I know, the poster was available only with the book club edition.

John

[Br!an]

I saw them. Saw no price and assumed Book Club. I've seen this before a few times but not with so many at once.

I'll have to see if there are any FAB8 there. I'd like the poster.

Ill probably be at B&N later this week. I can certainly pick you up one if they still have them.

Thanks but no need. I went by there today. I had to look around a bit since they had the FAB8 in a different section.

I picked up an extra if anyone wants it.

[Cwalker]

Over in the Tommyknockers page in the Wiki, there was, a few years ago, the discussion of the exitence of a silver/blue cover varient. Hutch had located one and posted some pics, but there dosen't seem to be an actual concensus as to whetheror not it was an intentional varient, a printing error, or fading.

The other day I found a copy myself. It is beat to hell, but to me it is clearly not fading. It is too uniform. The only thing that may be relevant is this one is a 2nd edition.

I can post pics if anyone wants.
Does anyone know if this was an intentional cover?
This one will never be more than a reading copy curiosity, but a curiosity none the less!
Thanks!

[allasorte]

Over in the Tommyknockers page in the Wiki, there was, a few years ago, the discussion of the exitence of a silver/blue cover varient. Hutch had located one and posted some pics, but there dosen't seem to be an actual concensus as to whetheror not it was an intentional varient, a printing error, or fading.

The other day I found a copy myself. It is beat to hell, but to me it is clearly not fading. It is too uniform. The only thing that may be relevant is this one is a 2nd edition.

I can post pics if anyone wants.
Does anyone know if this was an intentional cover?
This one will never be more than a reading copy curiosity, but a curiosity none the less!
Thanks!

I don't know of the intentions. If it's not too much trouble I'd like to see pics. Also, what about the copies where the pages are of different stock? You don't see those selling much either. Not sure how valuable, if any, they are.

[Roseannebarr]

anybody need 7 well read paperbacks 1st edition 1st printing? Well read. :(

Thinner, Four past midnight, Cujo, Skeleton Crew, Needful Things, Misery and Christine? I was able to buy 13 on ebay for $15. included The Stand and Salem's Lot! I needed The Stand so I took a shot at the whole collection. Both of the ones I wanted were in acceptable shape.

Free to whoever wants them or needs them.

[Cwalker]

I don't know of the intentions. If it's not too much trouble I'd like to see pics. Also, what about the copies where the pages are of different stock? You don't see those selling much either. Not sure how valuable, if any, they are.

here you go...
http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/774/medium/silver_tommy1.JPG
and
http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/774/medium/silvertommy2.JPG

[jhanic]

I have a copy of Tommyknockers with the different stock. I'd have to dig it out to see just which pages are involved, but it seems it's only one signature.

John

[allasorte]

I have a copy of Tommyknockers with the different stock. I'd have to dig it out to see just which pages are involved, but it seems it's only one signature.

John

I have a copy, that's why I mentioned it. For me it is pages 33-64. It's a first/first with permission to come. I'd say fine- condition to the book with minor age staining and the jacket is fine/fine-. Maybe I could drive it over sometime and we can compare books or rip the pages out and make a complete newer version of the book with the odd colored pages :).

[allasorte]

@cwalker. I have 3 jackets. 2 that are red and one yellow like your picture shown. All 3 jackets have the green tint, not blue. Thanks for the pictures!

[Cwalker]

@cwalker. I have 3 jackets. 2 that are red and one yellow like your picture shown. All 3 jackets have the green tint, not blue. Thanks for the pictures!

It only looks yellow because my shadow. His name is a dark silver (that has the black scuff marks. Like I said, it's pretty beat up) and the title is white. The light is blue and white.

[allasorte]

@cwalker. I have 3 jackets. 2 that are red and one yellow like your picture shown. All 3 jackets have the green tint, not blue. Thanks for the pictures!

It only looks yellow because my shadow. His name is a dark silver (that has the black scuff marks. Like I said, it's pretty beat up) and the title is white. The light is blue and white.
Gotcha. Still an intriguing item. Thanks for the insight.

[allasorte]

The DT books. There are the revised editions where the covers from Grant look similar (books 1-4). I'm assuming to be considered 1st/1sts the books HAVE to have prices listed inside the jackets and the number line of 1-10, correct? I only ask because I have books 1 and 4 revised with prices on the jacket and I see ebay listings saying they have 1st/1sts with the right number line on books 2 and 3, but no prices on the jacket.

[Ari_Racing]

BUMP:

Does anyone here have this item and could share a pic?:

A celebration of the life and achievements of Evan Hunter A.K.A, Ed McBain ("On Ed McBain" Paperback program bookley new york society of ethical culture in NY"

[Br!an]

The DT books. There are the revised editions where the covers from Grant look similar (books 1-4). I'm assuming to be considered 1st/1sts the books HAVE to have prices listed inside the jackets and the number line of 1-10, correct? I only ask because I have books 1 and 4 revised with prices on the jacket and I see ebay listings saying they have 1st/1sts with the right number line on books 2 and 3, but no prices on the jacket.

Are you talking about the Viking editions? They all have the full numberline.

I'd have to take mine out of the bag to check on the price.

[frik]

The DT books. There are the revised editions where the covers from Grant look similar (books 1-4). I'm assuming to be considered 1st/1sts the books HAVE to have prices listed inside the jackets and the number line of 1-10, correct?

I just checked mine: correct on both accounts.

sk

[Randall Flagg]

The Catalog is your friend:

Gunslinger, The (DTI) - Viking [revised] reissue (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showwiki.php?title=Stephen+King+First+Editions:Gun slinger+The+DTI+Revised+-+Trade+HC+Viking)



Drawing of the Three, The (DTII) - Viking reissue (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showwiki.php?title=Stephen+King+First+Editions:Dra wing+of+the+Three+The+DTII+-+Trade+HC+Viking)


Waste Lands, The (DTIII) - Viking reissue (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showwiki.php?title=Stephen+King+First+Editions:Was te+Lands+The+DTIII+-+Trade+HC+Viking)


Wizard and Glass (DTIV) - Viking reissue (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showwiki.php?title=Stephen+King+First+Editions:Wiz ard+and+Glass+DTIV+-+Trade+HC+Viking)

[allasorte]

Thanks Brian, Frik, and RF. I forgot about the catalog. I figured it never hurt to ask :). Thanks!

[allasorte]

The DT books. There are the revised editions where the covers from Grant look similar (books 1-4). I'm assuming to be considered 1st/1sts the books HAVE to have prices listed inside the jackets and the number line of 1-10, correct? I only ask because I have books 1 and 4 revised with prices on the jacket and I see ebay listings saying they have 1st/1sts with the right number line on books 2 and 3, but no prices on the jacket.

Are you talking about the Viking editions? They all have the full numberline.

I'd have to take mine out of the bag to check on the price.

I'm wrong...Viking it is. I see now on the catalog. Thanks guys!

[allasorte]

Here's a possible stump question? The grey/black leather in a sense omnibus book with Carrie, Salem's Lot, The Shining book with red lettering for the 3 books on the front of the book; no dust jacket edition. I didn't see it in the catalog. Are there more then one printing? I received one the other day in shrink wrap, opened it, and it has the number line of 9-2. Is this like Black House where the "2" is a first printing? Or do I have a 2nd printing? :(

[Br!an]

Here's a possible stump question? The grey/black leather in a sense omnibus book with Carrie, Salem's Lot, The Shining book with red lettering for the 3 books on the front of the book; no dust jacket edition. I didn't see it in the catalog. Are there more then one printing? I received one the other day in shrink wrap, opened it, and it has the number line of 9-2. Is this like Black House where the "2" is a first printing? Or do I have a 2nd printing? :(

Stump question. :orely:

Are you talking about the Barnes & Noble edition pictured below? Then there should be a full numberline.

Original price was $20. I think they might go for $30 now.

It isn't in the catalog because it is more of a first edition thus. There were earlier omnibus editions of those books.

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/CCI10012015.jpg

[allasorte]

Yes Brian. I am talking about the book you pictured. Everyone selling them on ebay are high priced, and in shrink wrap. So the one I have has the number line 9-2. Curious if a true first printing is 9-1?

[stroppygoblin]

Thanks but no need. I went by there today. I had to look around a bit since they had the FAB8 in a different section.

I picked up an extra if anyone wants it.

I'll take that if it's still available Brian. Can you hold it till January? I'll be back in Florida then! :)

[Br!an]

The first has a numberline from 9 to 1.

I think i have an extra if you need it. Pm me.

[Jimimck]

What are people's thoughts on this signature? I know it's not in the book itself and so isn't that desirable anyway if real, but I'm just courious if it's legit. I'm not that confident in my opinion for earlier signatures but I don't like this one...

http://m.ebay.com/itm/141774136275?_mwBanner=1

[jsmcmullen92]

What are people's thoughts on this signature? I know it's not in the book itself and so isn't that desirable anyway if real, but I'm just courious if it's legit. I'm not that confident in my opinion for earlier signatures but I don't like this one...

http://m.ebay.com/itm/141774136275?_mwBanner=1

I don't like it. The G looks like they went back and added the loop on the bottom later

[Cwalker]

What are people's thoughts on this signature? I know it's not in the book itself and so isn't that desirable anyway if real, but I'm just courious if it's legit. I'm not that confident in my opinion for earlier signatures but I don't like this one...

http://m.ebay.com/itm/141774136275?_mwBanner=1

I won't speak to the sig, as I'm no real judge, but for what it is worth I've been watching this one for about 2 months. It started out at $700 and has been dropping on price regularly. It is possible that the seller realizes that an unattached signature to a 10th printing just may not be all that valuable.

[jhanic]

What are people's thoughts on this signature? I know it's not in the book itself and so isn't that desirable anyway if real, but I'm just courious if it's legit. I'm not that confident in my opinion for earlier signatures but I don't like this one...

http://m.ebay.com/itm/141774136275?_mwBanner=1

I don't like it. The G looks like they went back and added the loop on the bottom later

It looks to me like they added the entire G later.

John

[Randall Flagg]

I don't like the signature for several reasons, but the most glaring is the upwards slash that "dots" the I in King. I looked at >100 King signatures, and none have a slash like that.

[Br!an]

thumbsdownlarge

[goheat]

Yeah, too much questionable about it, I agree, especially the separate 'g'

[divemaster]

Yeah, it should read "Stephen Knig"

[Jimimck]

Thanks team. Nice to know I fell on the right side of the fence :-)

[zelig]

I was curious, do we know who owns "The Killer" submission with the cover letter signed to Forrest J. Ackerman?

[carlosdetweiller]

I was curious, do we know who owns "The Killer" submission with the cover letter signed to Forrest J. Ackerman?

I've got the letter. But I don't have the submitted story.

[zelig]

Thought it must be you. Thanks Bob. Does the original submission exist?

[Ari_Racing]

Since Forrest Ackerman died some years ago, someone bought it for sure.

[carlosdetweiller]

Thought it must be you. Thanks Bob. Does the original submission exist?

I don't know. Only the letter was offered in the big auction of Forry's stuff.

[zelig]

Okay, thanks Bob.

[carlosdetweiller]

I guess I will go ahead and buy this new illustrated edition of Joyland published by Titan. Is there a US edition published by Random House? Or is the only edition the UK edition by Titan?

I see them for about $14 on ABE plus about $4 shipping. Anyone know of a better deal anywhere?

Thanks

[jsmcmullen92]

I guess I will go ahead and buy this new illustrated edition of Joyland published by Titan. Is there a US edition published by Random House? Or is the only edition the UK edition by Titan?

I see them for about $14 on ABE plus about $4 shipping. Anyone know of a better deal anywhere?

Thanks

Amazon Joyland (http://www.amazon.com/Joyland-Illustrated-Stephen-King/dp/1783295325/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1444840348&sr=8-1&keywords=joyland) $13.19 with free shipping if you have Prime.

[jreitan47]

I ordered mine on Amazon, should be arriving in the mail this week.

[carlosdetweiller]

I guess I will go ahead and buy this new illustrated edition of Joyland published by Titan. Is there a US edition published by Random House? Or is the only edition the UK edition by Titan?

I see them for about $14 on ABE plus about $4 shipping. Anyone know of a better deal anywhere?

Thanks

Amazon Joyland (http://www.amazon.com/Joyland-Illustrated-Stephen-King/dp/1783295325/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1444840348&sr=8-1&keywords=joyland) $13.19 with free shipping if you have Prime.

Thanks. I don't have Prime but I will look into it. So is there just one publisher and one edition? Or is there a UK and a US edition?

[skyofcrack]

I have a Cujo 1st UK HB for sale but now I'm not sure it's a 1st. Anyone here have knowledge of what to look for?

[jonp]

An unpriced UK Cujo is an export edition not a 1st. The 1st is priced at £6.95.

[skyofcrack]

An unpriced UK Cujo is an export edition not a 1st. The 1st is priced at £6.95.

OK. Why is Cujo the only one with an export edition and why can't they both be firsts? What's the value of 1st vs. export edition?

[carlosdetweiller]

An unpriced UK Cujo is an export edition not a 1st. The 1st is priced at £6.95.

OK. Why is Cujo the only one with an export edition and why can't they both be firsts? What's the value of 1st vs. export edition?

I think that they are both firsts. The book (I think) is exactly the same. The difference is in the dust jackets. One is priced, the other is not. Collectors seem to prefer the priced variant.

[jonp]

An unpriced UK Cujo is an export edition not a 1st. The 1st is priced at £6.95.

OK. Why is Cujo the only one with an export edition and why can't they both be firsts? What's the value of 1st vs. export edition?

Firestarter also had export copies by MacDonald. The book is identical, it is just the DJ that is unpriced. They did not produce enough 1st so some of the export editions were priced via stickers. The value of the export edition is not as valuable as the 1st.

[skyofcrack]

An unpriced UK Cujo is an export edition not a 1st. The 1st is priced at £6.95.

OK. Why is Cujo the only one with an export edition and why can't they both be firsts? What's the value of 1st vs. export edition?

Firestarter also had export copies by MacDonald. The book is identical, it is just the DJ that is unpriced. They did not produce enough 1st so some of the export editions were priced via stickers. The value of the export edition is not as valuable as the 1st.

Thanks.

[zelig]

I guess I will go ahead and buy this new illustrated edition of Joyland published by Titan. Is there a US edition published by Random House? Or is the only edition the UK edition by Titan?

I see them for about $14 on ABE plus about $4 shipping. Anyone know of a better deal anywhere?

Thanks

Amazon Joyland (http://www.amazon.com/Joyland-Illustrated-Stephen-King/dp/1783295325/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1444840348&sr=8-1&keywords=joyland) $13.19 with free shipping if you have Prime.

Thanks. I don't have Prime but I will look into it. So is there just one publisher and one edition? Or is there a UK and a US edition?

I've often wondered about this with the Titan/HCC books. From what I've been able to determine, there is only one edition. It's like a universal edition that has both the £ and $ price.

[herbertwest]

How do you guys deal with anthologies signed by several authors?
Do you put them aside as anthologies, or do you put it in the KING shelves? What if there are other authors you collect in it?

[biomieg]

I guess I will go ahead and buy this new illustrated edition of Joyland published by Titan. Is there a US edition published by Random House? Or is the only edition the UK edition by Titan?

I see them for about $14 on ABE plus about $4 shipping. Anyone know of a better deal anywhere?

Thanks

Amazon Joyland (http://www.amazon.com/Joyland-Illustrated-Stephen-King/dp/1783295325/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1444840348&sr=8-1&keywords=joyland) $13.19 with free shipping if you have Prime.

Thanks. I don't have Prime but I will look into it. So is there just one publisher and one edition? Or is there a UK and a US edition?

I've often wondered about this with the Titan/HCC books. From what I've been able to determine, there is only one edition. It's like a universal edition that has both the £ and $ price.


That's not true, actually. I have both a UK and a US Joyland trade PB published by HCC/Titan. They are very similar but of a slightly different size and the copyright page states that one is printed in the UK and the other in the US. They do both have the prices in $ and £. The US copy is a review copy with publisher's letter but I assume the book itself is a regular trade PB, it's certainly not the proof.

[zelig]

I keep my anthologies together on their own shelves.

[zelig]

I guess I will go ahead and buy this new illustrated edition of Joyland published by Titan. Is there a US edition published by Random House? Or is the only edition the UK edition by Titan?

I see them for about $14 on ABE plus about $4 shipping. Anyone know of a better deal anywhere?

Thanks

Amazon Joyland (http://www.amazon.com/Joyland-Illustrated-Stephen-King/dp/1783295325/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1444840348&sr=8-1&keywords=joyland) $13.19 with free shipping if you have Prime.

Thanks. I don't have Prime but I will look into it. So is there just one publisher and one edition? Or is there a UK and a US edition?

I've often wondered about this with the Titan/HCC books. From what I've been able to determine, there is only one edition. It's like a universal edition that has both the £ and $ price.


That's not true, actually. I have both a UK and a US Joyland trade PB published by HCC/Titan. They are very similar but of a slightly different size and the copyright page states that one is printed in the UK and the other in the US. They do both have the prices in $ and £. The US copy is a review copy with publisher's letter but I assume the book itself is a regular trade PB, it's certainly not the proof.

Well, I never knew that. Now I have to find the UK editions.

[The Library Policeman]

Michaël is correct. My two paperback versions are different in size.

[zelig]

Can one of you post a picture of the two side by side and the copyright page?

[biomieg]

Here's a pic:

http://www.thedarktower.org/custom/images/1444852809-joylands.JPG

Don't have a pic of the copyright pages handy but they're exactly the same, except for a statement at the bottom of the page that mentions where the books were printed.

[ELazansky]

How do you guys deal with anthologies signed by several authors?
Do you put them aside as anthologies, or do you put it in the KING shelves? What if there are other authors you collect in it?

I used to keep them with King's books if he signed them. But then I reorganized my shelves by height to maximize space. Smaller books get grouped together on top, with larger books on the bottom.

[Roseannebarr]

How do you guys deal with anthologies signed by several authors?
Do you put them aside as anthologies, or do you put it in the KING shelves? What if there are other authors you collect in it?

I used to keep them with King's books if he signed them. But then I reorganized my shelves by height to maximize space. Smaller books get grouped together on top, with larger books on the bottom.

King books flatsigned 1st edition One Bookshelf
King books S/L (his novels) second bookshelf (smaller bookshelf)
anthologies signed by king, duplicates signed by king third bookshelf.

[Randall Flagg]

I move the books around to create a different look and feel.
Think of great art-moving it around in your house every few years reinvigorates your appreciation.

[needfulthings]

http://imageshack.com/a/img911/4849/db7XcN.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img912/5376/OC4V7t.jpg

[Dan]

I've seen the larger one. I thought it was released months later. Am I wrong? I never bought it because I thought it was just a reprint.

[Dan]

Sorry, reverse that

[biomieg]

My copies don't differ that much in size and the cover is exactly the same.

[zelig]

I think the two that Bruce posted are US editions. I was never aware that there was a UK edition.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

I move the books around to create a different look and feel.
Think of great art-moving it around in your house every few years reinvigorates your appreciation.

Me too. I move my stuff around all the time.... BUT... (Tomorrow I will be having a massive bonfire when I will be burning all of my "IKEA Billy Bookcases" and any of my King collection which is valued below $50.)

I'm not joking. My "IKEA Billy Bookcases" are the only "flatpack" things in my house and I can't stand it any longer having them in the house! I have been selling everything from my collection worth less than $50 on ebay recently. I've sold several hundred items, but I'm now sick of the process, and will have more enjoyment burning them.

Next year, I will sell/burn everything in my collection below $100. Mmmmmmm. SMOKE!

[zelig]

I've been curious as to why you have been selling off your UK 1sts.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

I've been curious as to why you have been selling off your UK 1sts.

Not worth the shelf space of $4000 per square foot.

[zelig]

I've been curious as to why you have been selling off your UK 1sts.

Not worth the shelf space of $4000 per square foot.

Well, instead of burning what's left, just put them in a box and ship them off to me.

[carlosdetweiller]

I've been curious as to why you have been selling off your UK 1sts.

Not worth the shelf space of $4000 per square foot.

Property values where you live are significantly higher than here in Amarillo, Texas.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

I've been curious as to why you have been selling off your UK 1sts.

Not worth the shelf space of $4000 per square foot.

Well, instead of burning what's left, just put them in a box and ship them off to me.

It's 11.00 pm in UK just now. Bonfire will be lit at approx 7.00 am tomorrow. (i don't sleep much). I must confess that I have around 45 trees to burn as well at the same time. (i'm having a clear-out of my garden as well as my bookcases!

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

I've been curious as to why you have been selling off your UK 1sts.

Not worth the shelf space of $4000 per square foot.

Property values where you live are significantly higher than here in Amarillo, Texas.

Texas is the Oil Capitol of the USA. Aberdeen is the Oil Capitol of Europe!

[webstar1000]

Yeah Alan, I'll take whatever you wanna send that's worth $50 or less. I'll pay all shipping too brother. Need my address?

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Yeah Alan, I'll take whatever you wanna send that's worth $50 or less. I'll pay all shipping too brother. Need my address?

I love the smell of napalm petrol in the morning!

[needfulthings]

I've seen the larger one. I thought it was released months later. Am I wrong? I never bought it because I thought it was just a reprint.

the smaller is U.S. & Canada & the larger is U.S. & U.K. & the do have different ISBN#s
http://imageshack.com/a/img912/5376/OC4V7t.jpg
What is the ISBN# of the U.K. edition & is it U.K.& U.S. priced?

[zelig]

I have both of these and they both say printed in the USA, so I'm thinking the one Michaël posted earlier is a 3rd version which was printed in the UK.

[needfulthings]

Looks like there is also one with a 9781781162646 ISBN# that has a #1 NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER banner on the top.

[zelig]

Looks like there is also one with a 9781781162646 ISBN# that has a #1 NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER banner on the top.

Yes there's that too. I think the only version I'm missing is the UK one.

[jhanic]

Looks like there is also one with a 9781781162646 ISBN# that has a #1 NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER banner on the top.

I may be mistaken, but I think that one is a second printing. It has a couple of textual corrections.

John

[Jimimck]

I'm going to say sorry in advance as I know this question doesn't really belong in this thread, but I wasn't sure where else to put it. Admin please transfer if you need.

For those of you who collect Eastern Press books, can someone let me know about their different versions of Sherlock Holmes I see on eBay from time to time? I am looking at buying a nice copy of Sherlocks stories for my 22 year old sister who is a fan and just need a bit of guidance as to why there are different editions and is their a preferred one to have?

Thanks (and sorry) in advance...

[jsmcmullen92]

On the inside flap of the Dust Jacket of Insomnia S/L does it say Gift edition $75 on everyone's or did someone just put the incorrect DJ on mine?

[carlosdetweiller]

On the inside flap of the Dust Jacket of Insomnia S/L does it say Gift edition $75 on everyone's or did someone just put the incorrect DJ on mine?

Yours is OK. They used the same dj for both editions.

[jsmcmullen92]

Thanks Bob. I've had it for awhile and been curious but now I feel better.

[bdwyer19]

What is the current contact info for Donald Grant Publishing? The email address on the website is to Karen, but she doesn't work there anymore.

[Br!an]

office@grantbooks.com (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/office@grantbooks.com)should work

[bdwyer19]

Thanks Brian!

[Brian James Freeman]

I'm going to say sorry in advance as I know this question doesn't really belong in this thread, but I wasn't sure where else to put it. Admin please transfer if you need.

For those of you who collect Eastern Press books, can someone let me know about their different versions of Sherlock Holmes I see on eBay from time to time? I am looking at buying a nice copy of Sherlocks stories for my 22 year old sister who is a fan and just need a bit of guidance as to why there are different editions and is their a preferred one to have?

Thanks (and sorry) in advance...

Are you looking at the three different volumes they published in the late 70s/early 80s, I believe?

The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes
Later Adventures of Sherlock Holmes
Final Adventures of Sherlock Holmes

All can be found in NEW or LIKE NEW condition, but currently, all of the Buy It Now prices for a full set of these three are way above market value, IMHO.

The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes is very common, you'll see 5 or 6 on eBay at any given time, but Later Adventures and Final Adventures are harder to find on their own.

Normally, I see The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes sell for $20 to $27. Later Adventures and Final Adventures sell for $40 to $50 each when you can find them separately. So I would be willing to pay a premium of $135 to $140 for a LIKE NEW set from the same seller since you'll save on shipping (and save time on searching/bidding), but most sellers are asking $175 to $300, which is way too much.

A set of all three that had some gilding problems sold for around $90 last week.

This set does make a VERY nice gift for the Sherlock Holmes fan in your life. I sold mine when I was downsizing a while back, but now that I've moved, I will probably buy a new one when I spot a set at the right price.

Of course, if you're looking at a different set from Easton, you can ignore all of this, ha! ;)

Brian

[jsmcmullen92]

What is the current contact info for Donald Grant Publishing? The email address on the website is to Karen, but she doesn't work there anymore.

You can always go direct to Robert as well with robert@grantbooks.com. Most the time when I email the office he emails me back a few days later anyway so I started going directly to him.

[DanaR]

Which is better - a Legacies Lettered "PC", or a Legacies S/L? I know for collecting purposes that PC copies aren't considered as valuable, but this particular lettered version is bound in black leather vs. the blue "whatever" the limited is. I'm really on the fence...

[allasorte]

Which is better - a Legacies Lettered "PC", or a Legacies S/L? I know for collecting purposes that PC copies aren't considered as valuable, but this particular lettered version is bound in black leather vs. the blue "whatever" the limited is. I'm really on the fence...

You just opened a giant can of worms of a constant debate. PC's are technically rarer as their print run is very small, but the debate arises on their alleged devalue because they aren't "true" S/L without the proper run number of the edition. Some believe the PC is the same value and others don't. My advice? Collect what you are comfortable with. I own no PC's but I'd kill for a full PC Gunslinger run of all the books as there are allegedly, maybe, 5 completed sets of that. So.....I'm no help. :(

[DanaR]

Which is better - a Legacies Lettered "PC", or a Legacies S/L? I know for collecting purposes that PC copies aren't considered as valuable, but this particular lettered version is bound in black leather vs. the blue "whatever" the limited is. I'm really on the fence...

You just opened a giant can of worms of a constant debate. PC's are technically rarer as their print run is very small, but the debate arises on their alleged devalue because they aren't "true" S/L without the proper run number of the edition. Some believe the PC is the same value and others don't. My advice? Collect what you are comfortable with. I own no PC's but I'd kill for a full PC Gunslinger run of all the books as there are allegedly, maybe, 5 completed sets of that. So.....I'm no help. :(

LOL, maybe this is my justification to purchase both copies.

[Jimimck]

I'm going to say sorry in advance as I know this question doesn't really belong in this thread, but I wasn't sure where else to put it. Admin please transfer if you need.

For those of you who collect Eastern Press books, can someone let me know about their different versions of Sherlock Holmes I see on eBay from time to time? I am looking at buying a nice copy of Sherlocks stories for my 22 year old sister who is a fan and just need a bit of guidance as to why there are different editions and is their a preferred one to have?

Thanks (and sorry) in advance...

Are you looking at the three different volumes they published in the late 70s/early 80s, I believe?

The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes
Later Adventures of Sherlock Holmes
Final Adventures of Sherlock Holmes

All can be found in NEW or LIKE NEW condition, but currently, all of the Buy It Now prices for a full set of these three are way above market value, IMHO.

The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes is very common, you'll see 5 or 6 on eBay at any given time, but Later Adventures and Final Adventures are harder to find on their own.

Normally, I see The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes sell for $20 to $27. Later Adventures and Final Adventures sell for $40 to $50 each when you can find them separately. So I would be willing to pay a premium of $135 to $140 for a LIKE NEW set from the same seller since you'll save on shipping (and save time on searching/bidding), but most sellers are asking $175 to $300, which is way too much.

A set of all three that had some gilding problems sold for around $90 last week.

This set does make a VERY nice gift for the Sherlock Holmes fan in your life. I sold mine when I was downsizing a while back, but now that I've moved, I will probably buy a new one when I spot a set at the right price.

Of course, if you're looking at a different set from Easton, you can ignore all of this, ha! ;)

Brian

Thank you for the info Brian.

I hadn't seen the set of three you are referring to, but am guessing this is them?

http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/361401066775

I had seen some of those individually but also this edition?

http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/262092367102

Is this second listing a stand alone book, not part of a larger set like the first?

I'm thinking of just grabbing one book (shipping on all three is just a joke) so might get that second edition unless there are compelling reasons to consider one of the first set I posted?

Thanks again Brian.

[jhanic]

Which is better - a Legacies Lettered "PC", or a Legacies S/L? I know for collecting purposes that PC copies aren't considered as valuable, but this particular lettered version is bound in black leather vs. the blue "whatever" the limited is. I'm really on the fence...

You just opened a giant can of worms of a constant debate. PC's are technically rarer as their print run is very small, but the debate arises on their alleged devalue because they aren't "true" S/L without the proper run number of the edition. Some believe the PC is the same value and others don't. My advice? Collect what you are comfortable with. I own no PC's but I'd kill for a full PC Gunslinger run of all the books as there are allegedly, maybe, 5 completed sets of that. So.....I'm no help. :(

LOL, maybe this is my justification to purchase both copies.

Sounds good to me!

John

[webstar1000]

Need a favor... does anyone have a long bookshelf that they could take a pic of thier King books looking down I could use? I know some of you guys do... just need an angled shot. My book shelves are too small and cut up. Even a LARGE bookshelf of King books with a pic head on. Please PM me if you can help and I will give me email and tell ya what I am doing of course (to get your permission to use it). Thanks!

[Br!an]

Which is better - a Legacies Lettered "PC", or a Legacies S/L? I know for collecting purposes that PC copies aren't considered as valuable, but this particular lettered version is bound in black leather vs. the blue "whatever" the limited is. I'm really on the fence...

Which is better?

The Lettered edition is a nicer book than the S/L. It is also more valuable.

http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showwiki.php?title=Legacies+-+S+L

*

There are exceptions but usually a PC copy of a book is worth slightly less than a comparable numbered or lettered copy.

[Brian James Freeman]

I hadn't seen the set of three you are referring to, but am guessing this is them?

http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/361401066775

Yeah, there are several sets like that, which keep popping up from the same sellers.


I had seen some of those individually but also this edition?

http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/262092367102

Is this second listing a stand alone book, not part of a larger set like the first?

I believe it's the first volume they published for the set, and it certainly works nicely as a standalone gift. You don't "need" the others for it to be a nice gift, if you know what I mean.

The three volumes contain something like 50+ short stories and four novels, and a TON of illustrations. Easton Press does still sell the "full set" of all three under the name THE COMPLETE SHERLOCK HOLMES, but it's three payments of $85, which is probably where those eBay prices above are coming from. But if you want all three, you can definitely find them for much less with some patience.

Brian

[Brian James Freeman]

I hadn't seen the set of three you are referring to, but am guessing this is them?

I just tried a slightly different search query (playing with spelling!) and found a set of three, new in shrink-wrap, that is more reasonably priced. PM me if you want the link. If you think you'll bid, I'll step aside, so we don't run up the price on each other!

Brian

[Roseannebarr]

Barry Hoffman has picked a particular book title to discuss, which I think is a great example of what is going on in the book industry. It is my opinion that for a bookseller to remain viable in a field that is in the process of going obsolete, book dealers have to come up with ways to remain relevant in this electronic day and age. This is a very important topic to discuss. I post it here for lack of a better place to post and would be interested in a response from PS Publishing.

I agree with Mr. Hoffman that prices (in my opinion the King books fall into this same category) are way to expensive given the materials used and the materials they contain. Value is very important to the customer. Added Materials (especially from the Author) can help make a particular title "more valuable" rather than a reprint with a few added illustrations. You can see from Barry's post, his publications and his passion, that he believes (lives) in what he publishes.

I am a loyal customer of PS Publishing, purchasing all the King reprints and the signed Lettered editions of the King books. I see the need for these books to sustain and maintain the business. This is part of the reason i continue to buy the anniversary editions. I just wish the lettered editions would be priced more reasonably, given the contents and costs involved. If others can publish a signed/numbered edition for $475 and a lettered edition for less than $2K maybe PS can review and analyze their pricing structure. I could be way off on the costs of publishing these books, but from Barry's post, prices are out of line based on costs of publishing these titles. I own the lettered CARRIE and ordered the Lettered THINNER, but can't honestly say they are the pride of my collection. The Stand, Salem's Lot and few others stand out more so than my love for Carrie. I am anxiously waiting for my lettered copy of Thinner and my Skeleton Crew gift edition.

I heard the folks at Cemetery Dance say more than once, if you don't want to wait for your books, they would happily refund your money and sell that copy to someone else! I say this because i was tired of waiting for Gone Girl (it will finally happen in 3 more months) AND I know we are not obligated to buy every book that is released! Barry has very strong ideas that new limited editions should have added material, he takes great pride in collecting that material for his publications!

I believe Barry has some valid points, but i would like to hear from others with a different point of view. I am great at listening to other points of view.

Barry's post is below in case you do not get the newsletter from Gauntless Press.

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A Note from the Publisher...

I have already discussed my disdain for limited editions of books that have already been given that treatment. I was over and done with it ... or so I thought until I saw, in the latest edition of the PS Publishing newsletter, their version of one of our classic signed limited editions: Ray Bradbury's SOMETHING WICKED THIS WAY COMES. As the original was a Gauntlet release I feel compelled to comment on the book.

PS is publishing the novel and adding two additional items (15 Glenn Chadbourne b/w illos and the short story “Dark Ferris”). The $90 (at today’s conversion rate) numbered edition is signed by Chadbourne and Peter Crowther, who wrote an intro, but NOT Bradbury. The lettered is signed by Bradbury but, other than a traycase, contains no additional bonus material and sells for, get this...$904.

While our version is out-of-print (deservedly so) here is what the buyer received in the numbered edition (which sold for $65 when it was published in 1999): signed by Bradbury, afterwords by Joe Lansdale and Peter Crowther, a Joe Mugnaini cover from the original U.K. edition of the book, and a never-before published Bradbury painting (which was used by Mugnaini as a guide for the cover). There are also 7 pages of Bradbury's Disney script for the play -- his typed pages along with handwritten notes and corrections.

And our $250 lettered edition contained all that the numbered did plus a 100-page screen treatment Bradbury wrote for Gene Kelly before he wrote the novel. That’s 100 additional pages. It also featured doodles that Bradbury was famous for as front and back endpapers.

No offense to Chadbourne (who is a distinguished artist in his own right) but PS would have been better served by using additional illos by Bradbury’s favorite artist, Joe Mugnaini. While he has passed away his wife has, several times in fact, provided us with her husband’s art for our editions. It would have been Bradbury’s desire, I believe.

A limited edition of a book that has already received that treatment must contain something truly unique. The PS release, selling for $90, contains just one “new” Bradbury item and the numbered edition isn’t signed by Bradbury. And $900 for the lettered edition is criminal. It should also be noted that we published 11 Ray Bradbury signed limited editions and only once (DARK CARNIVAL) did we charge more than $500 for a signed lettered edition. Most of our signed Bradbury lettered editions sold for considerably less. A “reprint” of SOMETHING WICKED THIS WAY COMES for $900 seems a bit much.

Simply put there has been a definitive signed limited edition of SOMETHING WICKED THIS WAYS COMES. Any further edition is redundant.

Best,
Barry Hoffman

[webstar1000]

I have to agree with Glenn here to a certain degree. I am not a fan of PS. I feel PS (Pete) takes advantage of completists.... Carrie done by Glenn Chadborne (who, lets be honest... is not expensive or sought after much at all) was near $5K US. COME ON... from what I have been told by numerous members the quality of this edition is sub par compared to the prices they paid. I do not own one and was prepared to buy one at the time as some of you know... when I seen the offering and the boring nature of it.. I passed. The last one sold on the market was well below issue price. Why? Cause issue price was way to high. I feel compelled to agree with Barry at Gantlet 100%. I am not a completist. I love the books, I love the limiteds but do not need them all. I take nothing away from any member that has Carrie or the upcoming Thinner either. I just do not agree with it.. I hate being taken advantage of. Period.

[Randall Flagg]

I'm wondering if this discussion should be in the PS thread. PS is essentially being called out.

[Roseannebarr]

I'm wondering if this discussion should be in the PS thread. PS is essentially being called out.

My first thought too, but i did not want to offend Pete! He is an asset to the site and did not want offend him, just hear his thoughts on the matter as well as other publishers and consumers. Everyone has opinions!!

But it would give him an opportunity and place to respond. to a "core" audience and consumers of his books!

[The Library Policeman]

I don't really get why people get wound up by it to be honest. If you don't like a certain book or price of a certain book you simply don't buy it. There are certain King books I know I will never own. I'd like to own them but barring a lottery win I never will. I already own expensive (for me) books that non collectors would shake their heads in disbelief at the price paid for them. I would buy a lettered Carrie tomorrow if I could afford one but I can't - and to those that can and are willing to pay the price asked for one I say good luck to them!

I don't NEED another version of 'Salem's Lot for example. I have the Centipede Press S/L and Gift editions as it is, but I've ordered both the PS and Cemetery Dance anniversary editions because I can afford them and I want them. I'll probably never own a Centipede Press lettered (or equivalent of) 'Salem's due to price, but I can live with that.

If lettered books get to a price where even people who can afford them won't pay the price asked, then that's when they are overpriced in my opinion. I'd love nothing more than to be able to be a Stephen King completist but I never will be able to be one. I already have a collecting illness as it is without being a completist!

[Brian James Freeman]

I already have a collecting illness as it is without being a completist!

This should probably be put on a t-shirt, ha!

Brian

[jhanic]

I don't really get why people get wound up by it to be honest. If you don't like a certain book or price of a certain book you simply don't buy it. There are certain King books I know I will never own. I'd like to own them but barring a lottery win I never will. I already own expensive (for me) books that non collectors would shake their heads in disbelief at the price paid for them. I would buy a lettered Carrie tomorrow if I could afford one but I can't - and to those that can and are willing to pay the price asked for one I say good luck to them!

I don't NEED another version of 'Salem's Lot for example. I have the Centipede Press S/L and Gift editions as it is, but I've ordered both the PS and Cemetery Dance anniversary editions because I can afford them and I want them. I'll probably never own a Centipede Press lettered (or equivalent of) 'Salem's due to price, but I can live with that.

If lettered books get to a price where even people who can afford them won't pay the price asked, then that's when they are overpriced in my opinion. I'd love nothing more than to be able to be a Stephen King completist but I never will be able to be one. I already have a collecting illness as it is without being a completist!

Well said. This is just the way I feel also.

John

[biomieg]

Me too.

[DanaR]

I may get the PS editions at some point, but they're not high on my list, I was underwhelmed by them.

My suspected OCD urges me to collect everything, but my checking account tells me to get real. However, I would give my left tit for a Centipede Salem's Lot.

[webstar1000]

I may get the PS editions at some point, but they're not high on my list, I was underwhelmed by them.

My suspected OCD urges me to collect everything, but my checking account tells me to get real. However, I would give my left tit for a Centipede Salem's Lot.

Lol

[DanaR]

Which is better - a Legacies Lettered "PC", or a Legacies S/L? I know for collecting purposes that PC copies aren't considered as valuable, but this particular lettered version is bound in black leather vs. the blue "whatever" the limited is. I'm really on the fence...

Which is better?

The Lettered edition is a nicer book than the S/L. It is also more valuable.

http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showwiki.php?title=Legacies+-+S+L

*

There are exceptions but usually a PC copy of a book is worth slightly less than a comparable numbered or lettered copy.

Yeah, I think I'm going with the lettered, it's just a nicer book, even though it's a PC. It's not like I'm planning on selling my collection anyway.

[Br!an]

I may get the PS editions at some point, but they're not high on my list, I was underwhelmed by them.

My suspected OCD urges me to collect everything, but my checking account tells me to get real. However, I would give my left tit for a Centipede Salem's Lot.

Throw in a right tit and you've got a deal. :wtf:

My OCD needs the pair!

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Collectors of Stephen King signed limited editions will have an incomplete collection without the PS signed Carrie!




So there....

[DanaR]

I may get the PS editions at some point, but they're not high on my list, I was underwhelmed by them.

My suspected OCD urges me to collect everything, but my checking account tells me to get real. However, I would give my left tit for a Centipede Salem's Lot.

Throw in a right tit and you've got a deal. :wtf:

My OCD needs the pair!

:biggrin:

[webstar1000]

Collectors of Stephen King signed limited editions will have an incomplete collection without the

So there....


Who cares? Sorry Alan. The book will never see my hard earned cash unless it's less than half issue price.

[allasorte]

Collectors of Stephen King signed limited editions will have an incomplete collection without the

So there....


Who cares? Sorry Alan. The book will never see my hard earned cash unless it's less than half issue price.

Just for you lol
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-40th-Anniversary-Lettered-Edition-CARRIE-034-P-034-only-26-copies-/331688006285?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276

[AKC]

You have got to be kidding me.....What a joke.

$11,760

STUPID

[allasorte]

You have got to be kidding me.....What a joke.

$11,760

STUPID

hahaha. Why I posted it for Webstar. Half off times 4 lol.

[TCCBodhi]

Crazy! I don't even know what to say to this.

[sharki69]

$38 shipping kills the deal. I'll pass.

[Ari_Racing]

So with that money I'd probably be able to buy two lettered regulators...

[bdwyer19]

$38 shipping kills the deal. I'll pass.

Ha!!

[jsmcmullen92]

Collectors of Stephen King signed limited editions will have an incomplete collection without the

So there....


Who cares? Sorry Alan. The book will never see my hard earned cash unless it's less than half issue price.

Just for you lol
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-40th-Anniversary-Lettered-Edition-CARRIE-034-P-034-only-26-copies-/331688006285?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276

From the auction:
"Up for auction is the HOLY GRAIL of Stephen King collectables."
"This is by far the rarest Stephen King signed limited edition ever published. Here is your chance to own a piece history."

I wish there was a report for being a douche button

[webstar1000]

What a croc. Where do I begin? Maybe he should sell it back to PS? They love crazy, outrageous prices:)

[Brian James Freeman]

$38 shipping kills the deal. I'll pass.

:clap:

[firemonkey66]

Is it unusual for a signed/limited Dark Tower III The Waste Lands to have the limitation number written in marker or flare pen, whichever this is?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/the-dark-tower-III-the-waste-lands-stephen-king-signed-/371468196016?hash=item567d3ad8b0:g:Zu0AAOSw9r1V-dYU

I've looked at all the other copies of this book on ebay and they're all written in regular pen, but King's signature varies in it's ink color between these copies as well (I saw at least one that was in red ink). I don't own any of the S/L Dark Tower books (yet), so I'm curious. Thanks for any help.

[Merlin1958]

Is it unusual for a signed/limited Dark Tower III The Waste Lands to have the limitation number written in marker or flare pen, whichever this is?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/the-dark-tower-III-the-waste-lands-stephen-king-signed-/371468196016?hash=item567d3ad8b0:g:Zu0AAOSw9r1V-dYU

I've looked at all the other copies of this book on ebay and they're all written in regular pen, but King's signature varies in it's ink color between these copies as well (I saw at least one that was in red ink). I don't own any of the S/L Dark Tower books (yet), so I'm curious. Thanks for any help.

Perhaps it was a "PC Replacement" of a book originally damaged in transit? May be worth asking the seller.

[firemonkey66]

Is it unusual for a signed/limited Dark Tower III The Waste Lands to have the limitation number written in marker or flare pen, whichever this is?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/the-dark-tower-III-the-waste-lands-stephen-king-signed-/371468196016?hash=item567d3ad8b0:g:Zu0AAOSw9r1V-dYU

I've looked at all the other copies of this book on ebay and they're all written in regular pen, but King's signature varies in it's ink color between these copies as well (I saw at least one that was in red ink). I don't own any of the S/L Dark Tower books (yet), so I'm curious. Thanks for any help.

Perhaps it was a "PC Replacement" of a book originally damaged in transit? May be worth asking the seller.

LOL, I don't think I should. If I spend anymore money on books this month, I'm pretty sure my wife will divorce me. I showed her the book in question and she gave me the evilest eye I've seen in a while... Plus, with Betts opening back up this week, you never know what sort of expenses will unexpectedly pop up!

[Randall Flagg]

Is it unusual for a signed/limited Dark Tower III The Waste Lands to have the limitation number written in marker or flare pen, whichever this is?
Very unusual.

[jonp]

Not sure where to put this as it's not a question but WHSmith is doing yet another exclusive dust jacket variant, this time for The Bazaar Of Bad Dreams. I can't see too much difference from the UK trade 1st cover except it's slightly more purple.

http://www.whsmith.co.uk/products/the-bazaar-of-bad-dreams/9781473698888

[herbertwest]

Not sure where to put this as it's not a question but WHSmith is doing yet another exclusive dust jacket variant, this time for The Bazaar Of Bad Dreams. I can't see too much difference from the UK trade 1st cover except it's slightly more purple.

http://www.whsmith.co.uk/products/the-bazaar-of-bad-dreams/9781473698888

It"s ALWAYS more purple ;)

[zelig]

That's good to hear. I actually like those variants. I was wondering if there would be one for Bazaar. Thanks for posting it.

[jonp]

Not sure where to put this as it's not a question but WHSmith is doing yet another exclusive dust jacket variant, this time for The Bazaar Of Bad Dreams. I can't see too much difference from the UK trade 1st cover except it's slightly more purple.

http://www.whsmith.co.uk/products/the-bazaar-of-bad-dreams/9781473698888

It"s ALWAYS more purple ;)

Their design team is so inventive!

[jonp]

That's good to hear. I actually like those variants. I was wondering if there would be one for Bazaar. Thanks for posting it.


I've been checking Waterstones/WHsmith for a couple of weeks and they must have put it up today. Waterstones only list the normal cover but they don't tend to list the variants separately.

[herbertwest]

Here are the two covers next to each other

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSLUG-LWUAQPspM.png

[jhanic]

I tried to order it, but it appears that they don't ship to the USA.

John

[jonp]

I tried to order it, but it appears that they don't ship to the USA.

John

I can get you one and then ship it to you, John.

[jhanic]

I tried to order it, but it appears that they don't ship to the USA.

John

I can get you one and then ship it to you, John.

I'd very much appreciate it, Jon. Let me know the total amount and I'll Paypal gift you.

John

[stroppygoblin]

Can everyone who normally requests a WH Smith variant from me, please PM me with a confirmation for BOBD? I ended up with too many last time, but it makes sense to get them at the £10 price, so will order based on response.

[super sam]

What is the first collectible ed. of riding the bullet?
It was released as an e-book in 2000, but was the audiobook the first collectible ed. of the story?

[Merlin1958]

Can everyone who normally requests a WH Smith variant from me, please PM me with a confirmation for BOBD? I ended up with too many last time, but it makes sense to get them at the £10 price, so will order based on response.

After researching the planned edition they are issuing it doesn't seem to make much sense to me. From what I could see there isn't very much distinction between their copy and the regular trade edition, other than the publisher of course. Any thoughts to offer, Simon? I'm leaning towards passing on this with, Alan but I still value your input nonetheless.

[stroppygoblin]

Like all previous WH Smith 'purple' editions, it's more of a cover variant than a 'collectors edition' and the nature of the cover for BOBD makes this one more subtle than previous purple make overs. If you have the previous ones or are hell bent on cover variants then the release price of £10 is not a bad deal (half cover price). I appreciate that US members have to add in shipping too, I do what I can to help out on these.

[zelig]

Come on Bill. Don't mess around, you know you want all the variants! If you don't get it you will probably regret it later. :smile:

[needfulthings]

What is the first collectible ed. of riding the bullet?
It was released as an e-book in 2000, but was the audiobook the first collectible ed. of the story?
1st Libro & CD ROM ITALY 2000.
http://imageshack.com/a/img907/3434/FT8i4V.jpg
Then printed in Japan in hardcover with 3 different covers.(also 2000)
http://imageshack.com/a/img911/5552/oUMpH8.jpg

[Merlin1958]

Like all previous WH Smith 'purple' editions, it's more of a cover variant than a 'collectors edition' and the nature of the cover for BOBD makes this one more subtle than previous purple make overs. If you have the previous ones or are hell bent on cover variants then the release price of £10 is not a bad deal (half cover price). I appreciate that US members have to add in shipping too, I do what I can to help out on these.


Come on Bill. Don't mess around, you know you want all the variants! If you don't get it you will probably regret it later. :smile:

Actually, Alan's generosity aside, it's more an either or thing to me. If, the W.H. is more appealing to me then I go for that instead of the regular trade as my "UK" collectible. In all honesty this one does not seem to be grabbing my attention so I'll likely go with the trade.

Simon, congratulations for all your help to forum members on these editions is to be applauded. You're a good man for always doing this for your U.S. Brutha's & Sista's!!! :clap:

[TCCBodhi]

Come on Bill. Don't mess around, you know you want all the variants! If you don't get it you will probably regret it later. :smile:

Yes, but does it have a poster? ;)

[Merlin1958]

Come on Bill. Don't mess around, you know you want all the variants! If you don't get it you will probably regret it later. :smile:

Yes, but does it have a poster? ;)

Oh, "Wise-Guy" eh? LOL LOL Why, I oughta!!! LOL LOL


Poster, huh? Watch you don't end up as a poster on a milk carton, my friend!!! LOL LOL

[super sam]

Thanks needfulthings.

[AstroDad]

Anyone familiar with RW Books? We've been talking through Ebay and began discussing a possible layaway type of transaction. He says he was one of the primary sellers of King books back in the day so I thought maybe someone here was familiar with him? Looks like hi is currently based out of Virginia.

[carlosdetweiller]

Anyone familiar with RW Books? We've been talking through Ebay and began discussing a possible layaway type of transaction. He says he was one of the primary sellers of King books back in the day so I thought maybe someone here was familiar with him? Looks like hi is currently based out of Virginia.

I don't think I have ever heard of him and I was one of the primary buyers of King books back in the day. Do you know what RW stands for?

[AstroDad]

I don't, but I've asked and will see what he says. He has excellent feedback on Ebay and I will still have the Paypal protection, but thought I would ask. He was not familiar with this site.

"for many years I was the main dealer in King material. I even had 5 copies of the asbestos firestarter when it came out.I started dealing in King in 1975 when I bought first editions of Carrie directly from Doubleday at about $2.00 each.I also used to buy large quantities of books from Donald Grant."

[RC65]

I wonder if the RW stands for Robert Weinberg...?

[Bev Vincent]

I wonder if the RW stands for Robert Weinberg...?

I don't think so. Bob is Weinberg Books Inc, in Illinois

[webstar1000]

I would get more info... if none of the good ol boys here know of him. Might need name.

[jcmanske]

Anyone familiar with RW Books? We've been talking through Ebay and began discussing a possible layaway type of transaction. He says he was one of the primary sellers of King books back in the day so I thought maybe someone here was familiar with him? Looks like hi is currently based out of Virginia.

I have purchased a few things from him on eBay and all transactions have been smooth and easy. He is the one from whom I purchased the Review Copy of IT which I posted about under Proofs a few days ago. I haven't purchased any "flatsigned" books from him, but what I have purchased from him has been as described. He has been listing on eBay for some time. Hope that helps!

[tippy4]

I wonder if the RW stands for Robert Weinberg...?

Robert Weinstein is my guess based on the fact The Plant he is selling is inscribed as such.

[AstroDad]

Actually, RC65 nailed it. RWBooks was just his Ebay ID and I assumed it was also a business name. He clarified for me who he is. I was guessing he was based in VA on an old blog entry I found that referenced a store called RW Books.

" When I retired almost 8 years ago I had 4 bookstores in So. Calif. My main store was in Anaheim where I had 1/2 million books in 20,000 sq. foot. with 26 employees. We specialized in horror and King. My Anaheim store the Book Baron was there 28 years and in 2003 USA Today named us the #1 bookstore in American in their 10 best list.Since retiring I have been selling on ebay. About 6 months ago I purchased a massive collection and now have a warehouse with office space and am by appointment only.Since we are going with $800.00 I will pay shipping and insurance. The RW is my initials Robert Weinstein.
Best
Bob"

[zelig]

I remember Book Baron.

[tippy4]

Not to split hairs...but I think you meant me...not RC65.

I too recall Book Baron...with stores in Anaheim and in Fullerton.

[jreitan47]

Very cool....brings back memories of my trip to Anaheim many years ago, visited Roy Robbins and stopped by Book Baron while there.

[carlosdetweiller]

Wow. The Book Baron. I never knew who owned it but I have been there a couple of times (in Anaheim) and have bought a few very choice items from them over the years.

[AstroDad]

Not to split hairs...but I think you meant me...not RC65.

I too recall Book Baron...with stores in Anaheim and in Fullerton.

you are correct, sorry. I didn't even notice you guys said two different names :)

[Br!an]

"R W Books was founded in 1993, and is located at 214 E Queen St in Strasburg. It employs 3 employees and is generating approximately $120,000.00 in annual revenue."

The owner's name is Raymond Willis.

[webstar1000]

Last night I was in bed and racking my brain on how to come up with some cash to buy a VERY RARE collectible. My wife watching in amusement as I played the numbers game every which way to get this rare collectible... I know of only two in existence!!! After about an hour of chat she asked me a question that I really, to be honest, had no answer for. She said, "It is gonna happen honey, your boyfriend (she means Sai King, lol) is not going to live forever. What happens when he passes? Will collecting die? Will things go up or down in value?" If your prepared to borrow THOUSANDS (and she said this with a very specific tone) and get your book... what happens in a couple years if it is not worth half as much?"

I had no answer and thought about it as I tried to fall asleep. I think King stuff will always be worth money... what I began to consider was the buying pool. In todays society it seems less and less people actually read a book. It is all tech tech, movies, shows and games... but books? Not as much. So, I wonder and thought I would pose my wife's question to my friends here... what are your thoughts?

[allasorte]

Last night I was in bed and racking my brain on how to come up with some cash to buy a VERY RARE collectible. My wife watching in amusement as I played the numbers game every which way to get this rare collectible... I know of only two in existence!!! After about an hour of chat she asked me a question that I really, to be honest, had no answer for. She said, "It is gonna happen honey, your boyfriend (she means Sai King, lol) is not going to live forever. What happens when he passes? Will collecting die? Will things go up or down in value?" If your prepared to borrow THOUSANDS (and she said this with a very specific tone) and get your book... what happens in a couple years if it is not worth half as much?"

I had no answer and thought about it as I tried to fall asleep. I think King stuff will always be worth money... what I began to consider was the buying pool. In todays society it seems less and less people actually read a book. It is all tech tech, movies, shows and games... but books? Not as much. So, I wonder and thought I would pose my wife's question to my friends here... what are your thoughts?

When the economy went to crap, it still is there with the job market and the value of the dollar, everything took a major hit. Antiques, antique furniture, crystal, etc. The one thing that didn't lose value but stayed the same in value were books and art. Not skyrocket price increases or bottoming out pricing, but their value hovered at what they were worth. I think the exact way and wonder the same thing about death in general. Artist's artwork increases with their death, and writers are artists. It only makes sense that when King retires his art will either stay steady or grow in value when he retires or worse, based on what I see today.
Personally I am the only person I know who collects books but I know so many who read. With the trend of the digital age that's where books are going. I think there will always be paper books, but not as many made in the future. Would that make books more valuable when they stop making them? I collect because King is known throughout the world and is one of the greatest horror writers ever. I cannot see, or hope, that in the future his works will still hold value. But I will say that when books are thousands of dollars, the market for those items is greatly reduced as not many can afford such luxuries. I own no lettered editions and I'd rather buy 3-4 S/L's then a lettered. Though at this time I cannot afford to do that lol.

[ELazansky]

Last night I was in bed and racking my brain on how to come up with some cash to buy a VERY RARE collectible. My wife watching in amusement as I played the numbers game every which way to get this rare collectible... I know of only two in existence!!! After about an hour of chat she asked me a question that I really, to be honest, had no answer for. She said, "It is gonna happen honey, your boyfriend (she means Sai King, lol) is not going to live forever. What happens when he passes? Will collecting die? Will things go up or down in value?" If your prepared to borrow THOUSANDS (and she said this with a very specific tone) and get your book... what happens in a couple years if it is not worth half as much?"

I had no answer and thought about it as I tried to fall asleep. I think King stuff will always be worth money... what I began to consider was the buying pool. In todays society it seems less and less people actually read a book. It is all tech tech, movies, shows and games... but books? Not as much. So, I wonder and thought I would pose my wife's question to my friends here... what are your thoughts?

I have never collected worrying about what the future values of the items will be. I collect because I enjoy it. If spending thousands on a rare item makes you happy, then I would go for it, regardless of what the future holds.

[carlosdetweiller]

Last night I was in bed and racking my brain on how to come up with some cash to buy a VERY RARE collectible. My wife watching in amusement as I played the numbers game every which way to get this rare collectible... I know of only two in existence!!! After about an hour of chat she asked me a question that I really, to be honest, had no answer for. She said, "It is gonna happen honey, your boyfriend (she means Sai King, lol) is not going to live forever. What happens when he passes? Will collecting die? Will things go up or down in value?" If your prepared to borrow THOUSANDS (and she said this with a very specific tone) and get your book... what happens in a couple years if it is not worth half as much?"

I had no answer and thought about it as I tried to fall asleep. I think King stuff will always be worth money... what I began to consider was the buying pool. In todays society it seems less and less people actually read a book. It is all tech tech, movies, shows and games... but books? Not as much. So, I wonder and thought I would pose my wife's question to my friends here... what are your thoughts?

Kris, these are valid questions but none of us know the answers to them. Personally I don't look at my book collection as an investment that I expect (or hope) to increase in value. I collect for pure enjoyment. In the back of my head I know that my collection has value and, one day, it will be sold (either by me or my heirs) but I don't personally agonize over whether the sale will result in more or less than I paid. For me it is a hobby and an enjoyable pastime; not an investment that I expect to fund my retirement.

I try not to use money needed elsewhere to fuel my collecting habits. Investment funds, retirement funds, etc. are something I have always tried to take care of first and then use anything leftover for pleasure. I hope this doesn't sound too preachy; just letting some of my prejudices and thoughts out.

Someone once wrote that if you are looking for an investment don't go too heavily into books. Mutual funds are safer and more likely to produce a positive return. Personally I think oil and gas leases offer great potential now if one can afford to wait for the price of oil to go back up.

The editor of Fine Books and Collectibles magazine once said in an editorial: If you collect what is irresistible to you then it will one day be irresistible to others (or something like that).

[webstar1000]

Thanks guys... I collect with the thought of not selling for decades of course but my wife is NOT a collector and to be honest... only supports it because she see's a perceived "value". If she didn't... I probably would not have the collection I do now. Every once in a while I sell something... then she see's dollars and I calm her for months and months. My wife has owned a company since she was 18 years old.. NO SHIT. Always been a owner and dollars are what she see's day in an day out. No emotion in selling her wares.. where in my world.. there is great passion and emotion. Thanks for the responses guys. I hope to hear more on the subject from other fellow members:)

[jhanic]

I'm with both Bob and Eric. I collect solely for enjoyment and personal satisfaction. Future value is, to me, irrelevant. Of course, being human (no matter what my wife says!), I like seeing certain items go up in value.

John

[Bev Vincent]

My biggest question recently isn't what happens to the value of my collectibles if King dies -- it's what happens to them if I do! Will they be a burden to someone else who doesn't understand their value but will have to become educated to figure out what to do with them. Which has radically changed my attitude toward collecting. I'm slowly divesting myself of most things I once considered indispensable.

[carlosdetweiller]

I'm slowly divesting myself of most things I once considered indispensable.

Please send me a list!!

[webstar1000]

My biggest question recently isn't what happens to the value of my collectibles if King dies -- it's what happens to them if I do! Will they be a burden to someone else who doesn't understand their value but will have to become educated to figure out what to do with them. Which has radically changed my attitude toward collecting. I'm slowly divesting myself of most things I once considered indispensable.

My wife knows to contact Bett's Books. That is all she needs to do... whether it is David or a new owner... the fact remains the same. Bett's can help:)

[RC65]

I'm with the others that future value has no real bearing on my buying choices...however...

1). You mention that you will have to borrow money(". . . borrow THOUSANDS . . .") -- everyone needs to make their own financial priorities, but I can't conceive of borrowing money to buy a book. Either I have the slush funds for pleasure and hobbies or I don't; perhaps you need to look at selling some other King book(s) or ?? to fund the purchase.

2). As Carlos mentions above, there are more prudent places to put money if you're looking for an investment return (or, minimally, stability) -- especially given the diminishing reading rates in our country and the incursion (though one that has apparently leveled off, if recent reports are to believed) of e-books. Book collecting has always been a niche hobby, but certainly never more so than today. To that point, collectibles are never a good bet as one never knows if the proverbial bottom will fall out...ask those hobbyists who loaded up on Beanie Babies, baseball cards, Thomas Kinkade paintings, and Hummels how their "investment" is doing. It would seem like books would never follow suit, but I'm guessing the collectors of these now essentially-valueless items believed the same thing about their collectible.

3). allasorte writes, "The one thing that didn't lose value but stayed the same in value were books and art. Not skyrocket price increases or bottoming out pricing, but their value hovered at what they were worth. I think the exact way and wonder the same thing about death in general. Artist's artwork increases with their death, and writers are artists. It only makes sense that when King retires his art will either stay steady or grow in value when he retires or worse, based on what I see today." I would suggest this is not accurate. When the economy hit the skids (and it's only partially recovered, and we'll have to see what happens next), books and art both took a hit. I can't speak to Stephen King in particular (though I have seen some general weakness, but, yes, less than other popular-fiction authors), but everything from small-press books to American literary first-editions (a long safe harbor against economic downturns) to gallery art took a hit as well, generally speaking. Nothing is immune to economic forces. As far as death increasing value, if the diminishing values of many late authors I've collected over the years has taught me anything, it's that American popular culture has a very short memory...if the artist is not around to create fresh material and visibly promote his body of work, his presence and popularity often fades from the scene -- history is littered with authors who were immensely popular in their age who are no longer read or recognized by a modern generation. Even authors who were popular and collected within the last decade or so may be relegated to this dustbin of literary history. Do I think Stephen King will be an exception (as exceptions do exist, though they are few and far between)? Perhaps -- maybe even probably. But were I looking for an investment, I wouldn't gamble borrowed money on this possibility.

Sorry to be the wet blanket...just thought I'd throw up an alternate perspective. Don't get me wrong, I love collecting books as much as anyone here, but future worth is never a real consideration...it's a nice bonus when it happens, but value can have such temporal fragility that it can't be a priority. If it were, I'd have to limit my buying to Gutenberg Bibles as virtually anything else is subject to the forces of the economy and the changing whims and tastes of popular culture.

[webstar1000]

I'm with the others that future value has no real bearing on my buying choices...however...

1). You mention that you will have to borrow money(". . . borrow THOUSANDS . . .") -- everyone needs to make their own financial priorities, but I can't conceive of borrowing money to buy a book. Either I have the slush funds for pleasure and hobbies or I don't; perhaps you need to look at selling some other King book(s) or ?? to fund the purchase.

2). As Carlos mentions above, there are more prudent places to put money if you're looking for an investment return (or, minimally, stability) -- especially given the diminishing reading rates in our country and the incursion (though one that has apparently leveled off, if recent reports are to believed) of e-books. Book collecting has always been a niche hobby, but certainly never more so than today. To that point, collectibles are never a good bet as one never knows if the proverbial bottom will fall out...ask those hobbyists who loaded up on Beanie Babies, baseball cards, Thomas Kinkade paintings, and Hummels how their "investment" is doing. It would seem like books would never follow suit, but I'm guessing the collectors of these now essentially-valueless items believed the same thing about their collectible.

3). allasorte writes, "The one thing that didn't lose value but stayed the same in value were books and art. Not skyrocket price increases or bottoming out pricing, but their value hovered at what they were worth. I think the exact way and wonder the same thing about death in general. Artist's artwork increases with their death, and writers are artists. It only makes sense that when King retires his art will either stay steady or grow in value when he retires or worse, based on what I see today." I would suggest this is not accurate. When the economy hit the skids (and it's only partially recovered, and we'll have to see what happens next), books and art both took a hit. I can't speak to Stephen King in particular (though I have seen some general weakness, but, yes, less than other popular-fiction authors), but everything from small-press books to American literary first-editions (a long safe harbor against economic downturns) to gallery art took a hit as well, generally speaking. Nothing is immune to economic forces. As far as death increasing value, if the diminishing values of many late authors I've collected over the years has taught me anything, it's that American popular culture has a very short memory...if the artist is not around to create fresh material and visibly promote his body of work, his presence and popularity often fades from the scene -- history is littered with authors who were immensely popular in their age who are no longer read or recognized by a modern generation. Even authors who were popular and collected within the last decade or so may be relegated to this dustbin of literary history. Do I think Stephen King will be an exception (as exceptions do exist, though they are few and far between)? Perhaps -- maybe even probably. But were I looking for an investment, I wouldn't gamble borrowed money on this possibility.

Sorry to be the wet blanket...just thought I'd throw up an alternate perspective. Don't get me wrong, I love collecting books as much as anyone here, but future worth is never a real consideration...it's a nice bonus when it happens, but value can have such temporal fragility that it can't be a priority. If it were, I'd have to limit my buying to Gutenberg Bibles as virtually anything else is subject to the forces of the economy and the changing whims and tastes of popular culture.

Great read!

[zelig]

I'm slowly divesting myself of most things I once considered indispensable.

Please send me a list!!

No kidding. Me too! After Bob has been through it though.

Regarding collecting as an investment, that's not really in my mind when I buy books. I buy because I enjoy the books, reading them and of course collecting. If the value increases, then sure that's a nice bonus, but it's not the reason I collect.

[Roseannebarr]

I'm with the others that future value has no real bearing on my buying choices...however...


3). allasorte writes, Artist's artwork increases with their death, and writers are artists. It only makes sense that when King retires his art will either stay steady or grow in value when he retires or worse, based on what I see today." I would suggest this is not accurate. When the economy hit the skids (and it's only partially recovered, and we'll have to see what happens next), books and art both took a hit. I can't speak to Stephen King in particular (though I have seen some general weakness, but, yes, less than other popular-fiction authors), but everything from small-press books to American literary first-editions (a long safe harbor against economic downturns) to gallery art took a hit as well, generally speaking. Nothing is immune to economic forces. As far as death increasing value, if the diminishing values of many late authors I've collected over the years has taught me anything, it's that American popular culture has a very short memory...if the artist is not around to create fresh material and visibly promote his body of work, his presence and popularity often fades from the scene -- history is littered with authors who were immensely popular in their age who are no longer read or recognized by a modern generation. Even authors who were popular and collected within the last decade or so may be relegated to this dustbin of literary history. Do I think Stephen King will be an exception (as exceptions do exist, though they are few and far between)? Perhaps -- maybe even probably. But were I looking for an investment, I wouldn't gamble borrowed money on this possibility.

Sorry to be the wet blanket...just thought I'd throw up an alternate perspective. Don't get me wrong, I love collecting books as much as anyone here, but future worth is never a real consideration...it's a nice bonus when it happens, but value can have such temporal fragility that it can't be a priority. If it were, I'd have to limit my buying to Gutenberg Bibles as virtually anything else is subject to the forces of the economy and the changing whims and tastes of popular culture.

Agreed. Pop Culture is a funny thing. I collect King because he scared me to death when i was young! and i will always remember him for this. Definately not for investment purposes. A few books appeared to increase in value, but many have stayed the same for years...

top 14 earners (after they died). 3 Authors. Ask any 20 year old and i bet they don't even know half this list!! I believe that kids under 20 know Stephen King because of the Movies (Mostly IT) and not his books. We had a poll online, and i think the average age of the members here is over 45. I think in 15 years there will be a glut of King Book limiteds for sale (by our heirs). King collectors are not getting any younger!!!

14 Bruce Lee
13 Jimi Hendrix
12 Stieg Larsson
11 Steve McQueen
10 Theoror Geisel (DR Seuss!)
9 Bettie Page ???
8 Albert Einsein
7 John Lennon
6 Marilyn Monroe
5 Bob Marley
4 Elizabeth Taylor
3 Charles Schultz
2 Elvis
1 Michael Jackson

I knew most of them, but i did not know about their work. I never read Larson (liked the movie though). Maybe read Seuss when i was little, everyone my age loved the Peanuts!

[sentinel]

Thanks guys... I collect with the thought of not selling for decades of course but my wife is NOT a collector and to be honest... only supports it because she see's a perceived "value". If she didn't... I probably would not have the collection I do now. Every once in a while I sell something... then she see's dollars and I calm her for months and months. My wife has owned a company since she was 18 years old.. NO SHIT. Always been a owner and dollars are what she see's day in an day out. No emotion in selling her wares.. where in my world.. there is great passion and emotion. Thanks for the responses guys. I hope to hear more on the subject from other fellow members:)

I tend to agree with Bob on collecting and investing, I never have bought a King item looking for a return, I'll be honest though, considering what some items have cost, I hope
they at least hold their value!
Roseannebarr brings up the real question, is King a phenomenon of the baby boom generation? How will his pop culture read in fifty years? For instance, Pearl Buck was one of the largest selling authors
in the 30's and won a Pulitzer for literature, is she even slightly collectible or even read, other than some literary classes today? I tend to believe that good novels will transcend time,
Stoker, Dickens, Melville etc...and many of Kings will make the cut, as well as still be collectible. But, I wouldn't keep 20 copies of signed Rose Madder for the future!

[Roseannebarr]

Thanks guys... I collect with the thought of not selling for decades of course but my wife is NOT a collector and to be honest... only supports it because she see's a perceived "value". If she didn't... I probably would not have the collection I do now. Every once in a while I sell something... then she see's dollars and I calm her for months and months. My wife has owned a company since she was 18 years old.. NO SHIT. Always been a owner and dollars are what she see's day in an day out. No emotion in selling her wares.. where in my world.. there is great passion and emotion. Thanks for the responses guys. I hope to hear more on the subject from other fellow members:)

I tend to agree with Bob on collecting and investing, I never have bought a King item looking for a return, I'll be honest though, considering what some items have cost, I hope
they at least hold their value!
Roseannebarr brings up the real question, is King a phenomenon of the baby boom generation? How will his pop culture read in fifty years? For instance, Pearl Buck was one of the largest selling authors
in the 30's and won a Pulitzer for literature, is she even slightly collectible or even read, other than some literary classes today? I tend to believe that good novels will transcend time,
Stoker, Dickens, Melville etc...and many of Kings will make the cut, as well as still be collectible. But, I wouldn't keep 20 copies of signed Rose Madder for the future!

Never heard of Pearl Buck. :wtf: i will have to wikepedia her. Being in the book business and all, i bet you have a long list of names of forgotten authors. SK mentions many of his favorite authors from his youth, but i have not gone back to try and read very many of them. I do look at current authors he recommends. I would never have found michael connelly without a nod from King!

[webstar1000]

I buy on PASSION... yes. But I am one that always tries to make the right decision money wise. Borrowing money is not a good choice when it comes to books UNLESS it is short term and there is no interest or fees incurred. I have used a lot of our families money to buy books/art and with a wife who allows to happen I DO CARE that they are worth something in decades when I go to sell them... if I can part with them of course. If I did not care about this than I might as well go to the casino and throw all my money each pay on red or black.. no? Either way.. this item is now being released from my clutches as I have crunched the numbers and it will cost me far too much with the dollar difference and the cost of borrowing... I am saddened but it is what it is. It will be hitting the market tomorrow. Good luck to all...

[bdwyer19]

I buy on PASSION... yes. But I am one that always tries to make the right decision money wise. Borrowing money is not a good choice when it comes to books UNLESS it is short term and there is no interest or fees incurred. I have used a lot of our families money to buy books/art and with a wife who allows to happen I DO CARE that they are worth something in decades when I go to sell them... if I can part with them of course. If I did not care about this than I might as well go to the casino and throw all my money each pay on red or black.. no? Either way.. this item is now being released from my clutches as I have crunched the numbers and it will cost me far too much with the dollar difference and the cost of borrowing... I am saddened but it is what it is. It will be hitting the market tomorrow. Good luck to all...

Since it's out of your grasp, what was the item?

[allasorte]

@RC65. You are right with smaller writers to even unknown writers taking a hit. I didn't want to write a novel going into too much detail. The more established writers or iconic historical ones stayed the same with pricing.
All I'm hoping that when the time comes to pass the King books on, they will be worth what I paid for or have appreciated in value. I collect because of who King is, but also as a minor investment down the road. Hopefully two birds with one stone if you will.

[TCCBodhi]

I still consider myself a beginning collector, and I really only do it because I enjoy doing it, I don't pay a LOT of attention to the daily ups and downs of each edition. Most of what I have has generally held close to the amount that I paid EXCEPT for Revival.....but I did receive excellent customer service. :rolleyes2: To be fair, at the time I bought it, none of us knew how many of these would be out there, so no ill will. I can only hope that I can continue to find good deals and flesh out my collection while SK is still active, and that his books do find a cross-generation appeal, which does seem to be happening.

My husband may not be aware of Bett's, but he certainly knows of the time I spend here, and that this would be the place to go to start DEALING with the collection if I wasn't around to do so. I'll be going over it a bit more with him (AND getting a more specific insurance rider) before too long since I'll hopefully have the Hodges Trilogy completed and the collection is getting a little more significant than I want to leave to just a general Renter's Insurance policy.

Okay, I'm rambling, as usual.

[Br!an]

I don't look at my books as an investment. Perhaps as a savings account. :orely:

I don't know what will happen with the King market, but I do know what has happened to other authors book values after they die. Hint: You probably don't want to know.

[Dano]

I collect pop culture items across different genres, and I've found what keeps me engaged and my wallet happy, is a culling of the herd every 12 - 24 months. It creates cash flow for other needful things, and gives me pause to reflect upon the pieces that are genuine 'keepers'. These dozen or so pieces keep making the cut year after year, and my several signed copies of (fill in the blank), or sketch image of (fill in the blank hot artist) find their way to market. Sometimes I make back more than I spent, but I often leave meat on the bone for a new collector. My real money is tied up in the retirement plans for my wife and me that other members have mentioned. Our lives together living comfortably will always bring a smile to my face, more than pieces of paper, if truth be told. Oh, and never, ever borrow money for a collectible, in my humble opinion - the, "I just gotta have it or I'll die" feelings usually pass after about 48 hours.

Dan

[Cook]

I spent many hours in the Anaheim store, corner of magnolia & ball rd..... Wow, that was a lotta years ago.
Never visited the Fullerton location


Not to split hairs...but I think you meant me...not RC65.

I too recall Book Baron...with stores in Anaheim and in Fullerton.

[skyofcrack]

I spent many hours in the Anaheim store, corner of magnolia & ball rd..... Wow, that was a lotta years ago.
Never visited the Fullerton location


Not to split hairs...but I think you meant me...not RC65.

I too recall Book Baron...with stores in Anaheim and in Fullerton.

I bought some King books in a store in Anaheim back in 1985. Don't remember what it was called.

[zelig]

I wanted some opinions on this. Would this be considered mold, mildew and/or foxing? And is this something a book restoration professional could clean up. Or perhaps just return the book. Thanks.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c330/zelig7/340E4CB5-37B7-4908-B13E-821BDD5420CE_zpsk3ern9zh.jpg

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

I wanted some opinions on this. Would this be considered mold, mildew and/or foxing? And is this something a book restoration professional could clean up. Or perhaps just return the book. Thanks.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c330/zelig7/340E4CB5-37B7-4908-B13E-821BDD5420CE_zpsk3ern9zh.jpg

I'm guessing mould, and it could effect all your books in your collection. Burn it now!

[CurtSeattle]

I struggle with the future of "hardcopy" books. I consider myself a pretty savvy and intelligent person but I cannot for the life of me figure out if traditional books lose value or gain value when the new digital "paper" comes out and other technology that makes books semi-obsolete. (Think endless battery power on a projected book page image or plastic screen that is portable/foldable (both created, but not ready for primetime). Things that are even more portable than EReaders/Ipads/etc... like digital viewing contacts (already created) or just built into your retina king of tech.

When children have grown up without really ever using traditional hardcopy books, will traditional hardcopy books be worth more as a whole or less than today?

I think LESS overall, but MORE for specific sought authors. The world is growing and there are 10x more people that have money and have never really read King, but will love him when they discover him. I think limited supply as demand grows due to larger pools of people will naturally increase prices on authors that stand the test of time.

Looking at where pop culture has/is going it would seem logical to me that King has sticking power. Surprisingly, growing up I thought Tolkien would really stand the test of time (he has), but I would argue that Tolkien is/has peaking/peaked. Don't get me wrong, I grew up in the Tolkien world. I am a huge fan. I think that the more traditional fairy tale world loses it's pull to new minds though.

I think beyond the normal viewing items of future generations (kids programming/world is a happy place childhood indoctrination) we will see the Space (Heinlein, Asimov, etc....) and the Horror (King, Barker, etc...) genres last even beyond the medium they relied on for so many years.

There is so much content battling for bandwidth and space in our minds these days that I think if you have to rank the content you will seek out (consciously or not) then traditional fairy tale genres lose steam in the new world vs fictional but maybe plausible somehow storylines like Space/Alt Reality/Horror genres which can all be intertwined even. Tolkien's detail and storytelling will probably keep him around, but I think some of the greats disappear into oblivion as technology pushes them out of new viewers' interest and frame of reference as they grow into being an adult. (This is years out don't forget...not saying in next 10 years necessarily even.)

Long way of wondering just what will happen to the value....

[Br!an]

I wanted some opinions on this. Would this be considered mold, mildew and/or foxing? And is this something a book restoration professional could clean up. Or perhaps just return the book. Thanks.



Foxing would affect all exposed edges since it is the oxidized mineral/chemical content of the paper. If this is only on top then it's some kind of shmutz.

Depending on the depth of damage it might be possible to sand it clean. I doubt that would be the wisest course of action though.

If you can return it then you probably should and just wait for a better copy.

[skyofcrack]

Everything is cyclical. Look at 3-D movies. Popular in the 1950's, the 1980's and the 2010's. Vinyl is popular again now. If books ever went away completely they would be back again someday.

[zelig]

I'm guessing mould, and it could effect all your books in your collection. Burn it now!


Foxing would affect all exposed edges since it is the oxidized mineral/chemical content of the paper. If this is only on top then it's some kind of shmutz.

Depending on the depth of damage it might be possible to sand it clean. I doubt that would be the wisest course of action though.

If you can return it then you probably should and just wait for a better copy.

Thanks for the feedback. I was trying to determine if in fact it's mold or mildew or just dirt. If the former, I wouldn't hesitate to return it. If it's just dirt or staining of some sort I would consider getting it cleaned because it's a rare proof (non-King) and signed as well. There are no other copies that I know of. So that's also why I'm even bothering with it and not just returning it. I think I may just end up sending it back though.

[skyofcrack]

Smell the book. If it's mold, you'll know.

[Bev Vincent]

Smelling mold isn't advisable -- you can inhale spores.

[Randall Flagg]

Is the staining on all edges, or just the top?

Edit. It loooks like foxing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxing

[zelig]

Is the staining on all edges, or just the top?

Although not as bad as the top, there are definitely similar spots at the front of the page block and none at the bottom. I've decided to return it.

[divemaster]

That's a classic example of foxing. I've seen it quite a bit from my Arkham collecting. It often affects one side of the text block more than others.

[Merlin1958]

Is the staining on all edges, or just the top?

Edit. It loooks like foxing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxing

Great info, RF!!!!

[amd013]

Is the staining on all edges, or just the top?

Edit. It loooks like foxing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxing

Does anyone know if foxing is "contagious". i.e. could the foxing spread to other books. The wiki mentions one theory is that it is a fungal growth. Just want to know if I should quarantine the few books I have that have foxing.

[Sovereign]

I'm having a shadowbox table built for my budding collection and was wondering what all of you guys and gals have for a display setup. Posting pics may help me with ideas and would be appreciated!

[Br!an]

I'm having a shadowbox table built for my budding collection and was wondering what all of you guys and gals have for a display setup. Posting pics may help me with ideas and would be appreciated!

There is a bookcase thread that might help. http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?6425-Bookcases

[Cwalker]

I'm having a shadowbox table built for my budding collection and was wondering what all of you guys and gals have for a display setup. Posting pics may help me with ideas and would be appreciated!


http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/forumdisplay.php?111-Collections

This is a thread containg many members collections with excellent photos. Some of the best collections in the world are shown off here. The only caveat is that you must be prepared to spend a lot of time browsing!!

[Br!an]

Is the staining on all edges, or just the top?

Edit. It loooks like foxing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxing

Does anyone know if foxing is "contagious". i.e. could the foxing spread to other books. The wiki mentions one theory is that it is a fungal growth. Just want to know if I should quarantine the few books I have that have foxing.

It probably wouldn't hurt to bag them.

I subscribe to the idea of foxing being the mineral/chemical content of the paper reacting with the environment. Primarily oxidation often aided by humidity. That won't transfer between books.

There are also various oils, soiling and shmutz that can discolor page blocks usually on the top of the page block. I don't call that foxing. That won't transfer either.

There are fungi and molds that can attack books and leave blemishes too. I wouldn't call that foxing but since it looks similar others do. If there is live fungi or mold then it can certainly spread. You can kill it with rubbing alcohol. Blot don't wipe. Don't overwet.

[Merlin1958]

I'm having a shadowbox table built for my budding collection and was wondering what all of you guys and gals have for a display setup. Posting pics may help me with ideas and would be appreciated!



Try here:

https://www.bookslipcase.com/Specialty_Cases.html