Stephen King Collecting Questions

[Jimimck]

Glad my reference was well received

[Merlin1958]

Glad my reference was well received

Alright, back on topic you miscreant!!! LOL

[Randall Flagg]

Back on topic please.
Christ. I think I need to find a BOT smilie image.

http://images.sodahead.com/polls/001827483/67921528b2ee909a491b518363a7cd78_answer_1_xlarge.j peg


http://media.tumblr.com/e017224fc8ff898ac789001b8bf91625/tumblr_inline_mgv2e8ZmTZ1r85v6p.gif

[bdwyer19]

I have a lead on a S/L Christine. What is a reasonable buying price these days?

[tippy4]

I have a lead on a S/L Christine. What is a reasonable buying price these days?

$750 seems about right.....there is a nice copy sitting on ebay for $850 now for several days.

[bdwyer19]

Thanks Rick.

[AstroDad]

What say you experts?

Thanks in advance.

http://i.imgur.com/uQSg3V7.png

[carlosdetweiller]

I like it. Even though it is in an unusual color of ink.

[goheat]

What say you experts?

Thanks in advance.



Looks legitimate to me. (On a copy of The Dark Tower, no doubt?)

[AstroDad]

What say you experts?

Thanks in advance.



Looks legitimate to me. (On a copy of The Dark Tower, no doubt?)

On a copy of The Gunslinger, yes. 2nd edition with terrible dust cover and dents in the spine of the book, but I wanted it as my name is James and how often is that going to come up on that book? It went for a lot more than I expected given the condition. I thought I was over paying when I bid $350 and still lost.

Auction (http://www.ebay.com/itm/351329330194?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

[Priest]

wrong... deleted

[mikeC]

I've been searching for an easy way to tell the difference between a normal edition and book of the month club for the earlier books without using the dust jacket as the answer.
Is that possible? I know the later ones have the numbers at the bottom and the Botms are usually smaller but wasn't sure about the earlier ones. Sorry if answer is on the site somewhere but I couldn't find it.

[Bev Vincent]

The early books all state FIRST EDITION on the copyright page and have "gutter codes" at the back.

Guide to identifying first edition (http://stephenking.com/other/identifying_first_editions.pdf)s.

[mikeC]

The early books all state FIRST EDITION on the copyright page and have "gutter codes" at the back.

Guide to identifying first edition (http://stephenking.com/other/identifying_first_editions.pdf)s.

Thanks Bev, but I don't think I will be able to afford first editions of the earlier books, is it the same info for the later(2nd/3rd printings) editions?

[Bev Vincent]

Later printings don't have these identifiers.

[Br!an]

The early books all state FIRST EDITION on the copyright page and have "gutter codes" at the back.

Guide to identifying first edition (http://stephenking.com/other/identifying_first_editions.pdf)s.

Thanks Bev, but I don't think I will be able to afford first editions of the earlier books, is it the same info for the later(2nd/3rd printings) editions?

There are a few ways to tell a BCE from a trade edition without the dustjacket.

For instance the gutter codes will be different. A 1st Carrie will have a P6 gutter code on page 199. A later printing will have a different code based upon when it was printed. A BCE has no gutter code on page 199. There is a gutter code opposite the rear free end paper of MP1X on my BCE copy. If I am not mistaken the BCE gutter codes always include letters.

The trade edition board and pastedowns will be different from a BCE. Using Carrie again; the trade edition has maroon boards with black pastedowns. The BCE has maroon binding, black boards and white pastedowns.

The BCE is often a different size than the trade edition.

The pagination is often different.

The spine/cover stamping is often different.

You will need to familiarize yourself with the books you are looking for. The catalog is a big help.

http://www.thedarktower.org/first editions
(http://www.thedarktower.org/?page=imagelimit2)

[mikeC]

There are a few ways to tell a BCE from a trade edition without the dustjacket.

For instance the gutter codes will be different. A 1st Carrie will have a P6 gutter code on page 199. A later printing will have a different code based upon when it was printed. A BCE has no gutter code on page 199. There is a gutter code opposite the rear free end paper of MP1X on my BCE copy. If I am not mistaken the BCE gutter codes always include letters.

The trade edition board and pastedowns will be different from a BCE. Using Carrie again; the trade edition has maroon boards with black pastedowns. The BCE has maroon binding, black boards and white pastedowns.

The BCE is often a different size than the trade edition.

The pagination is often different.

The spine/cover stamping is often different.

You will need to familiarize yourself with the books you are looking for. The catalog is a big help.

http://www.thedarktower.org/first editions
(http://www.thedarktower.org/?page=imagelimit2)

Thanks for trying to help, I thought this would be a hard question to answer and it seems like its a tricky one.

[Merlin1958]

Does anyone know the identity of the model shown partially on the cover of "Carrie"? Just curious is all.

[jhanic]

Does anyone know the identity of the model shown partially on the cover of "Carrie"? Just curious is all.

Which edition?

John

[zelig]

Does anyone know the identity of the model shown partially on the cover of "Carrie"? Just curious is all.

What a great question. I've never considered that...

[Merlin1958]

Does anyone know the identity of the model shown partially on the cover of "Carrie"? Just curious is all.

Which edition?

John



Does anyone know the identity of the model shown partially on the cover of "Carrie"? Just curious is all.

What a great question. I've never considered that...

The first, which is pictured. Always reminded me of, Joan Jett which I found to be a bit odd, somewhat. The photo seems more up to date than the release date. IDK, it always bothered me a bit for no good reason I suppose.

[WeDealInLead]

Are there any plans to publish Hard Listening? I'd like to read King's piece but I'm not too jazzed about paying $10 for an e-book.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Are there any plans to publish Hard Listening? I'd like to read King's piece but I'm not too jazzed about paying $10 for an e-book.

e-books cost money?

[stroppygoblin]

Are there any plans to publish Hard Listening? I'd like to read King's piece but I'm not too jazzed about paying $10 for an e-book.

e-books cost money?

;)

[mikeC]

Hello again, so I was able to look at my books that used to be in storage and I have books that have no prices on the DJ but do not say BOM club, the Salem's Lot has a sticker on the DJ with 8.95. Are they still book of the month editions? The CP says first published in 19... What are these?
Thanks again

[jhanic]

If the dust jacket doesn't have a price, it's probably a book club edition. Not all BMOC editions state that they are Book Club editions.

Doubleday ran out of "regular" trade editions and put a sticker on the dust jacket of some book club Salem's Lot editions and distributed them as trade editions. They aren't as valuable as the "regular" trade, but they are more valuable than the BMOC ones, even though they don't say First Edition on the CP.

John

[mikeC]

If the dust jacket doesn't have a price, it's probably a book club edition. Not all BMOC editions state that they are Book Club editions.

Doubleday ran out of "regular" trade editions and put a sticker on the dust jacket of some book club Salem's Lot editions and distributed them as trade editions. They aren't as valuable as the "regular" trade, but they are more valuable than the BMOC ones, even though they don't say First Edition on the CP.

John

Ha! Shady and interesting. Thanks John!

[goheat]

Hi All,

What are your impressions of this signature from a front end piece of a copy of Rose Madder? As usual I value the DT.org members for opinions!
http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/20150323_105557.jpg

[jhanic]

Probably okay.

John

[webstar1000]

I agree. Looks good to me...

[killjoy72]

Sig looks good to me, goheat.

[Priest]

would agree - looks good to me too

[Merlin1958]

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[goheat]

Thanks, all. I think it's good as well!

[Ben Eads]

Does anyone know if Stephen King has stopped doing signed numbered limited editions of his work? In specific, numbered limited runs that HE actually signs too.

[jhanic]

Does anyone know if Stephen King has stopped doing signed numbered limited editions of his work? In specific, numbered limited runs that HE actually signs too.

He did two last year--Doctor Sleep and The Shining. What makes you think he's stopped?

John

[Ben Eads]

Does anyone know if Stephen King has stopped doing signed numbered limited editions of his work? In specific, numbered limited runs that HE actually signs too.

He did two last year--Doctor Sleep and The Shining. What makes you think he's stopped?

John

Thanks, John!

During a few speeches and interviews King mentioned his distaste for signed numbered limited editions, and if he had his druthers, he wouldn't do anymore of them coupled with CD and PS doing some AMAZING signed numbered limited runs of his work recently bereft his signature.

Again, any insight would be deeply appreciated.

[Randall Flagg]

Does anyone know if Stephen King has stopped doing signed numbered limited editions of his work? In specific, numbered limited runs that HE actually signs too.
For now, only King knows. Certainly 2015 is looking to be the first year since 2008 King hasn't done a reasonable amount of numbered S/L copies.
That could change tomorrow, but personally, I'm not optimistic.

[Ben Eads]

Does anyone know if Stephen King has stopped doing signed numbered limited editions of his work? In specific, numbered limited runs that HE actually signs too.
For now, only King knows. Certainly 2015 is looking to be the first year since 2008 King hasn't done a reasonable amount of numbered S/L copies.
That could change tomorrow, but personally, I'm not optimistic.

Thanks for the insight, Jerome! =)

That's my gut feeling, and I'm not optimistic either. I've been out of the loop for so long I just wanted to make sure I didn't miss an official announcement. ;)

[webstar1000]

Does anyone know if Stephen King has stopped doing signed numbered limited editions of his work? In specific, numbered limited runs that HE actually signs too.
For now, only King knows. Certainly 2015 is looking to be the first year since 2008 King hasn't done a reasonable amount of numbered S/L copies.
That could change tomorrow, but personally, I'm not optimistic.

I sure hope so RF but I have the same gut feeling... He is getting older and doesn't really have to anything at this point in his life.

[Randall Flagg]

It gets more discouraging if one is hoping for an original novel being done as a numbered S/L. King did no promo tour or S/L for Mr. Mercedes, it's looking the same for Finders Keepers, and thus would be odd (but King is odd) if King did a tour or S/L for the untitled 3rd in the trilogy.
If somehow King and Straub have finished Talisman 3, then it's a very well kept secret-but still no guarantee of a S/L.

[zelig]

There is also the signed lettered Anniversary editions from PS. I was initially surprised that he had agreed to sign for those, but not the CD ones.

[Randall Flagg]

I presumed the question meant a total quantity substantially for than 26.
2015 in quantity is looking to be a dry year.
Of course Mt. Rabbit Trick would counter that anyone with $3.5K+ can get this years offering at issue price.

[Lot guy]

It would be great if CD released a Signed Lumited boxed set for the Mr. Mercedes trilogy!!!! Dreaming here but it would be nice and I think they'd do the best with production.

[webstar1000]

It would be great if CD released a Signed Lumited boxed set for the Mr. Mercedes trilogy!!!! Dreaming here but it would be nice and I think they'd do the best with production.

I know eh? I always think too that maybe King will decide to sign a total art Portfoilio for the CD Doubleday. I mean he has to have input on it Ya know?

[Tommy]

Has it been stated that there will be no S/L for Bazaar of Bad Dreams?

[Merlin1958]

Has it been stated that there will be no S/L for Bazaar of Bad Dreams?

I presume he will do some sort of promotional signing tour, but other than that presumption I haven't heard a peep. Still, it's early on in the process.

[Tommy]

Has it been stated that there will be no S/L for Bazaar of Bad Dreams?

I presume he will do some sort of promotional signing tour, but other than that presumption I haven't heard a peep. Still, it's early on in the process.

Thanks!

[Merlin1958]

Has it been stated that there will be no S/L for Bazaar of Bad Dreams?

I presume he will do some sort of promotional signing tour, but other than that presumption I haven't heard a peep. Still, it's early on in the process.

Thanks!

You're very welcome though I don't know that I gave you much info. You know, I keep hearing how much he despises "Limiteds" yet it seems he keeps doing them regardless. Which is a good thing for us of course just kinda weird, IMHO

[mikeC]

I'd like to see an interview about this, my theory is he does them to help small publishers afloat, maybe he's getting a little sentimental about his older stuff and maybe he figures he's not doing anything but a couple sigs so what difference does it make. shrug?

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

He signed thousands of copies of Revival. Far more than any signed/limited would have had.

[webstar1000]

He signed thousands of copies of Revival. Far more than any signed/limited would have had.

VERY true Alan... I wonder if he likes to do this more so than the S/L's?

[jhanic]

He signed thousands of copies of Revival. Far more than any signed/limited would have had.

I was going to argue about the "thousands" then thought about it. You're right!

John

[webstar1000]

He signed thousands of copies of Revival. Far more than any signed/limited would have had.

I was going to argue about the "thousands" then thought about it. You're right!

John

At about 350'sih per signing... there was quite a few... I dare say over 3000!

[Rahfa]

He signed thousands of copies of Revival. Far more than any signed/limited would have had.

Right - and not only that, more of those will probably show up for sale than s/l editions (or a greater percentage I should say)...at least I think so.

[burial]

He signed thousands of copies of Revival. Far more than any signed/limited would have had.

Right - and not only that, more of those will probably show up for sale than s/l editions (or a greater percentage I should say)...at least I think so.

Yeah... and a lot of people will make profit...

[Ben Eads]

There is also the signed lettered Anniversary editions from PS. I was initially surprised that he had agreed to sign for those, but not the CD ones.

I'm surprised by that as well. My favorite SNL's to collect--other than TDT--would be the books that put him on the map. The price is too high for my poor soul for the lettered editions from PS.

[Kingfan24]

6 official signings + Bradenton event = ~350x7 = 2450. That's a lot.

[Theli]

How can you differentiate between first and second printing of the Firestarter paperback?

[zelig]

How can you differentiate between first and second printing of the Firestarter paperback?

Full numerline starting at 1.

[jhanic]

The vast majority of the first printings have, on the cover, "By the Author of The Dead Zone", but I also have a first that says "By the Author The Dead Zone and Cujo".

John

[zelig]

That's interesting...didn't know about the Dead Zone and Cujo being on a 1st printing... I suppose then it's like a variant of the 1st.

[Br!an]

That's interesting...didn't know about the Dead Zone and Cujo being on a 1st printing... I suppose then it's like a variant of the 1st.

A variant! Yes I suppose it is.

You're like a bloodhound on a scent!

Good job on keeping track of the variants BTW. It's been very helpful having that information in one place.

[zelig]

That's interesting...didn't know about the Dead Zone and Cujo being on a 1st printing... I suppose then it's like a variant of the 1st.

A variant! Yes I suppose it is.

You're like a bloodhound on a scent!

Good job on keeping track of the variants BTW. It's been very helpful having that information in one place.

No problem... I haven't really been keeping track of paperback variants... Maybe I should start to...

[Br!an]

That's interesting...didn't know about the Dead Zone and Cujo being on a 1st printing... I suppose then it's like a variant of the 1st.

A variant! Yes I suppose it is.

You're like a bloodhound on a scent!

Good job on keeping track of the variants BTW. It's been very helpful having that information in one place.

No problem... I haven't really been keeping track of paperback variants... Maybe I should start to...

Paperback collecting isn't the primary focus of most collectors. You could say it's a variant. :orely:

The first printings are collectible though and so...

[Ben Eads]

Howdy folks!

I just received an SNL of Doctor Sleep today, and I'm a bit worried. Can anyone confirm this is normal? The traycase and book have nothing wrong with them. However, the CD stamp on the spine of the traycase looks odd/misprinted.

Any insight would be deeply appreciated! Thanks! =)

http://i1319.photobucket.com/albums/t668/beneadsfiction/IMAG2323_zpsnw5sbfg6.jpg

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Don't panic, they are all printed like that.

Mulleins

[Ben Eads]

Awesome! Thank you so much! =) Now I can rest easy.

[biomieg]

Has anyone seen these Danse Macabre items before (quoted from Brooks' Bibliography)? Anyone got pics?

14. New York, NY: Dodd, Mead & Co., 1983, pp., hardcover. ISBN: . Note: A limited
edition of [25?] slipcased copies that were given to the sales department personnel at
Everest House.
18. Excerpted as a broadsheet in 1990. See [Untitled]: C303.

[carlosdetweiller]

Has anyone seen these Danse Macabre items before (quoted from Brooks' Bibliography)? Anyone got pics?

14. New York, NY: Dodd, Mead & Co., 1983, pp., hardcover. ISBN: . Note: A limited
edition of [25?] slipcased copies that were given to the sales department personnel at
Everest House.
18. Excerpted as a broadsheet in 1990. See [Untitled]: C303.


Item 18 was produced by (IIRC) the Friends of the Library in the San Francisco area. I have one in a closet and can take some pictures of it later today.

I'm not aware of any edition of Danse Macabre published by Dodd, Mead. There is an unsigned (no limitation page) edition of Danse Macabre that was published by Everest House that was simultaneous with the limited edition.

[Bev Vincent]

Everest House became an imprint of Dodd, Mead in 1982

[biomieg]

Pics of the broadsheet would be nice Bob, thank you. As for the Dodd, Mead book - I was mostly wondering if it looks similar to the Everest House unsigned 'publisher's copies' (35 copies?) and if they could maybe even be the same thing.

[needfulthings]

Has anyone seen these Danse Macabre items before (quoted from Brooks' Bibliography)? Anyone got pics?


18. Excerpted as a broadsheet in 1990. See [Untitled]: C303.

http://imageshack.com/a/img903/8649/QwezJf.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img538/1995/RT3qVe.jpg

[Theli]

How can you differentiate between first and second printing of the Firestarter paperback?

Full numerline starting at 1.



Thanks for the info guys!

[zelig]

I've never seen that broadsheet before. Thanks for posting.

[biomieg]

Yes, thank you Bruce. Looks pretty neat! I don't think I ever saw one for sale (but I haven't been looking).

[mikeC]

Sorry I know this might have been discussed in October, but does anyone know if the the Whelan original was sold and what is was sold for? Just curious. Wish he had sold prints of this one.

http://fineart.ha.com/itm/illustration-art/michael-whelan-american-b-1950-charlie-mcgee-dust-jacket-art-1980-acrylic-on-masonite-24-x-32-in-signed-with/a/5185-72327.s

Thanks!

[Kingfan24]

Sorry I know this might have been discussed in October, but does anyone know if the the Whelan original was sold and what is was sold for? Just curious. Wish he had sold prints of this one.

http://fineart.ha.com/itm/illustration-art/michael-whelan-american-b-1950-charlie-mcgee-dust-jacket-art-1980-acrylic-on-masonite-24-x-32-in-signed-with/a/5185-72327.s



Thanks!

It sold on heritage for 12k I believe but was then sold to a member here for an undisclosed amount.

[carlosdetweiller]

Sorry I know this might have been discussed in October, but does anyone know if the the Whelan original was sold and what is was sold for? Just curious. Wish he had sold prints of this one.

http://fineart.ha.com/itm/illustration-art/michael-whelan-american-b-1950-charlie-mcgee-dust-jacket-art-1980-acrylic-on-masonite-24-x-32-in-signed-with/a/5185-72327.s



Thanks!

It sold on heritage for 12k I believe but was then sold to a member here for an undisclosed amount.

It ended up in my collection. I just got it back from the framers a couple of days ago. I'll try to post some pictures soon.

And there was a series of prints done. 200 signed and numbered prints, IIRC, and a few artist proofs.

[webstar1000]

Sorry I know this might have been discussed in October, but does anyone know if the the Whelan original was sold and what is was sold for? Just curious. Wish he had sold prints of this one.

http://fineart.ha.com/itm/illustration-art/michael-whelan-american-b-1950-charlie-mcgee-dust-jacket-art-1980-acrylic-on-masonite-24-x-32-in-signed-with/a/5185-72327.s



Thanks!

It sold on heritage for 12k I believe but was then sold to a member here for an undisclosed amount.

It ended up in my collection. I just got it back from the framers a couple of days ago. I'll try to post some pictures soon.

And there was a series of prints done. 200 signed and numbered prints, IIRC, and a few artist proofs.

Cannot wait to see it. Love that piece Bob. Glad it ended up in our family!

[zelig]

Yeah, also looking forward to seeing it with the new frame.

[mikeC]

Sorry I know this might have been discussed in October, but does anyone know if the the Whelan original was sold and what is was sold for? Just curious. Wish he had sold prints of this one.

http://fineart.ha.com/itm/illustration-art/michael-whelan-american-b-1950-charlie-mcgee-dust-jacket-art-1980-acrylic-on-masonite-24-x-32-in-signed-with/a/5185-72327.s



Thanks!

It sold on heritage for 12k I believe but was then sold to a member here for an undisclosed amount.
It ended up in my collection. I just got it back from the framers a couple of days ago. I'll try to post some pictures soon.
And there was a series of prints done. 200 signed and numbered prints, IIRC, and a few artist proofs.

Cool thanks, I'll have to keep an eye out for those.

[bdwyer19]

Does anyone have the Owen King 'Double Feature' S/L? I'm curious about the production quality of it. Gauntlet Press has the S/L 50% off for the next two weeks. That tells me two things - 1) It's not selling, and 2) It must be nothing special.

Thoughts?

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Does anyone have the Owen King 'Double Feature' S/L? I'm curious about the production quality of it. Gauntlet Press has the S/L 50% off for the next two weeks. That tells me two things - 1) It's not selling, and 2) It must be nothing special.

Thoughts?

1) It's not selling, and 2) It must be nothing special.

[goheat]

Does anyone have the Owen King 'Double Feature' S/L? I'm curious about the production quality of it. Gauntlet Press has the S/L 50% off for the next two weeks. That tells me two things - 1) It's not selling, and 2) It must be nothing special.

Thoughts?

1) It's not selling, and 2) It must be nothing special.

Succinct!

[bdwyer19]

Does anyone have the Owen King 'Double Feature' S/L? I'm curious about the production quality of it. Gauntlet Press has the S/L 50% off for the next two weeks. That tells me two things - 1) It's not selling, and 2) It must be nothing special.

Thoughts?

1) It's not selling, and 2) It must be nothing special.

Succinct!

Yes, but it reaffirms that even though it's only $32, it would be a waste of money.

[Roseannebarr]

Does anyone have the Owen King 'Double Feature' S/L? I'm curious about the production quality of it. Gauntlet Press has the S/L 50% off for the next two weeks. That tells me two things - 1) It's not selling, and 2) It must be nothing special.

Thoughts?

1) It's not selling, and 2) It must be nothing special.


I have wasted alot more than $32 on Stephen King books. I like my copy. I have NOT read the story. It is not selling. But i met Owen King and will meet him again. I think it is a bargain price. Just think if maybe, maybe someday he hits it big. YOu have a cheap first signed limited by Owen. If not. You lost $32. David sold a copy or two for $50

[herbertwest]

Does anyone have the Owen King 'Double Feature' S/L? I'm curious about the production quality of it. Gauntlet Press has the S/L 50% off for the next two weeks. That tells me two things - 1) It's not selling, and 2) It must be nothing special.

Thoughts?

1) It's not selling, and 2) It must be nothing special.


I have wasted alot more than $32 on Stephen King books. I like my copy. I have NOT read the story. It is not selling. But i met Owen King and will meet him again. I think it is a bargain price. Just think if maybe, maybe someday he hits it big. YOu have a cheap first signed limited by Owen. If not. You lost $32. David sold a copy or two for $50

Technically, as you still have the book, you didn't lose anything. You simply purchased the book.

[Merlin1958]

Does anyone have a pic of the TOC for Black House?

[Br!an]

Does anyone have a pic of the TOC for Black House?

Is that a trick question? There isn't one.

[wolfehr]

Does anyone have a pic of the TOC for Black House?

This is from the Limited Edition...

http://i.imgur.com/7AtYJ9L.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/y5ng4G5.jpg?1

http://i.imgur.com/sIucFYF.jpg?2

[Dan]

Does anyone have a pic of the TOC for Black House?

Is that a trick question? There isn't one.

Is that kind of like reading only the first chapter of Cujo?

[Br!an]

Does anyone have a pic of the TOC for Black House?

Is that a trick question? There isn't one.

Is that kind of like reading only the first chapter of Cujo?

You'd probably sleep better than reading the whole thing. :-]

[Dan]

Does anyone have a pic of the TOC for Black House?

Is that a trick question? There isn't one.

Is that kind of like reading only the first chapter of Cujo?

You'd probably sleep better than reading the whole thing. :-]

I know my jokes are mostly unfunny, but I was referring to the fact that Cujo doesn't have any chapter breaks. Essentially it's one chapter long.

[Merlin1958]

Thanks guys, that was what I was looking for. Does anyone recall in which part the "Big Combine" is described? If you know the exact page No, you go to the head of the class!!!

[Randall Flagg]

Thanks guys, that was what I was looking for. Does anyone recall in which part the "Big Combine" is described? If you know the exact page No, you go to the head of the class!!!
A search for "combine" doesn't yield anything of value.

[biomieg]

Wasn't it the Big Combination?

[Merlin1958]

Wasn't it the Big Combination?

Ahhhh, there you go!!! Many thanks, I thought I was "nuts" for awhile there, which I am, of course!!!

[Jimimck]

Hi team.
Can I please get your thoughts on this signature?
Thank you

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f257/jimimck/4B1CAEAF-AD8C-48D7-9BF3-76DDFC676215_zpsgxsegz7s.jpg (http://s49.photobucket.com/user/jimimck/media/4B1CAEAF-AD8C-48D7-9BF3-76DDFC676215_zpsgxsegz7s.jpg.html)

[carlosdetweiller]

Legit. 100%

[jhanic]

I agree. Neat!

John

[jonp]

Hi team.
Can I please get your thoughts on this signature?
Thank you

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f257/jimimck/4B1CAEAF-AD8C-48D7-9BF3-76DDFC676215_zpsgxsegz7s.jpg (http://s49.photobucket.com/user/jimimck/media/4B1CAEAF-AD8C-48D7-9BF3-76DDFC676215_zpsgxsegz7s.jpg.html)

Looks good to me. I really like the way the dedication to Stephen is signed!

[Theli]

Hi team.
Can I please get your thoughts on this signature?
Thank you

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f257/jimimck/4B1CAEAF-AD8C-48D7-9BF3-76DDFC676215_zpsgxsegz7s.jpg (http://s49.photobucket.com/user/jimimck/media/4B1CAEAF-AD8C-48D7-9BF3-76DDFC676215_zpsgxsegz7s.jpg.html)

Looks good to me. I really like the way the dedication to Stephen is signed!

Yeah it's kinda nifty to see a book dedicated to Stephen from Stephen, almost like it's double signed :)

[Jimimck]

Thanks team. Someone on a facebook group was asking about it and I wasn't sure but wanted to give them some comments on if legit or not. Always rely on the group here to help.

Cheers!

[chaos-consultants]

Has anyone seen these Danse Macabre items before (quoted from Brooks' Bibliography)? Anyone got pics?


18. Excerpted as a broadsheet in 1990. See [Untitled]: C303.

http://imageshack.com/a/img903/8649/QwezJf.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img538/1995/RT3qVe.jpg


And if I am not mistaken there were two states of the broad sheet - That is what I thought I remember Barry Levin saying to me years ago. The unsigned, which I have as well, and a signed version. Or perhaps King just signed some at the event. Not sure.

John

John

[sentinel]

Has anyone seen these Danse Macabre items before (quoted from Brooks' Bibliography)? Anyone got pics?


18. Excerpted as a broadsheet in 1990. See [Untitled]: C303.

http://imageshack.com/a/img903/8649/QwezJf.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img538/1995/RT3qVe.jpg


And if I am not mistaken there were two states of the broad sheet - That is what I thought I remember Barry Levin saying to me years ago. The unsigned, which I have as well, and a signed version. Or perhaps King just signed some at the event. Not sure.

John

John

I have the unsigned version and I have a signed version, it's not numbered or anything but was signed at the event.

[Roseannebarr]

I have 1 of the very elusive Michael Whelan remarqued artist edition of Little Sisters of Eluria, I bought it from Karen at Grant Books at that time, will sell for 500.00 plus 25.00 insured shipping. Dave


If i cant pose a question in collectable classifieds underneath this post, everything gets lost in translation. But my question would be, it was purchased directly from Karen at Grant Books. Could those elusive books "that we all had a chance to recieve" actually been distributed??? if so, at an additional cost? i still would love the mystery to be revealed!

it has been years since this happened. PM me if necessary. I cant stand being in the dark! Even the government discloses secrets faster!

[Kingfan24]

A lot of people believe they were intentionally held back.

[Merlin1958]

I have 1 of the very elusive Michael Whelan remarqued artist edition of Little Sisters of Eluria, I bought it from Karen at Grant Books at that time, will sell for 500.00 plus 25.00 insured shipping. Dave


If i cant pose a question in collectable classifieds underneath this post, everything gets lost in translation. But my question would be, it was purchased directly from Karen at Grant Books. Could those elusive books "that we all had a chance to recieve" actually been distributed??? if so, at an additional cost? i still would love the mystery to be revealed!

it has been years since this happened. PM me if necessary. I cant stand being in the dark! Even the government discloses secrets faster!


A lot of people believe they were intentionally held back.

IMHO, Let it be. There is ample discussion on the forum to draw your own conclusions and no real need to revitalize the discussion at this time. What is done, is done and move on. If, you really want to research it feel free to do the homework. JMHO Of course. There were many facets to the story as I recall when it actually took place.

The world has moved on and so should this discussion, IMHO.

[Randall Flagg]

I have 1 of the very elusive Michael Whelan remarqued artist edition of Little Sisters of Eluria, I bought it from Karen at Grant Books at that time, will sell for 500.00 plus 25.00 insured shipping. Dave


If i cant pose a question in collectable classifieds underneath this post, everything gets lost in translation. But my question would be, it was purchased directly from Karen at Grant Books. Could those elusive books "that we all had a chance to recieve" actually been distributed??? if so, at an additional cost? i still would love the mystery to be revealed!

it has been years since this happened. PM me if necessary. I cant stand being in the dark! Even the government discloses secrets faster!


A lot of people believe they were intentionally held back.

IMHO, Let it be. There is ample discussion on the forum to draw your own conclusions and no real need to revitalize the discussion at this time. What is done, is done and move on. If, you really want to research it feel free to do the homework. JMHO Of course. There were many facets to the story as I recall when it actually took place.

The world has moved on and so should this discussion, IMHO.

Bill,

If you don't mind, I (along with and other staff members) will be the judge of when a discussion needs to be discontinued or moved along.
TIA for your cooperation.


Jerome

[Papaseraphim]

It sucks if they did that. I really wanted one of those remarques, I bought three copies to increase my chances, but didn't get any (one had the KA doodle).

Did anyone actually get a remarqued copy directly at the retail price?


A lot of people believe they were intentionally held back.

[webstar1000]

It sucks if they did that. I really wanted one of those remarques, I bought three copies to increase my chances, but didn't get any (one had the KA doodle).

Did anyone actually get a remarqued copy directly at the retail price?


A lot of people believe they were intentionally held back.

I never heard the story... Can someone fill me in?

[Papaseraphim]

IIRC when Little Sisters of Eluria was announced Grant, they said that in the Gift Edition of the book, 30-50 copies would contain a remarque by Michael Whelan, those copies to be sold randomly so everyone would have a chance of getting one. My copies didn't (one had a KA doodle)

[Edit]
Here's the page on Grant website:

https://secure.grantbooks.com/z-sk-dt-1-lsoe.html



It sucks if they did that. I really wanted one of those remarques, I bought three copies to increase my chances, but didn't get any (one had the KA doodle).

Did anyone actually get a remarqued copy directly at the retail price?


A lot of people believe they were intentionally held back.

I never heard the story... Can someone fill me in?

[Merlin1958]

I have 1 of the very elusive Michael Whelan remarqued artist edition of Little Sisters of Eluria, I bought it from Karen at Grant Books at that time, will sell for 500.00 plus 25.00 insured shipping. Dave


If i cant pose a question in collectable classifieds underneath this post, everything gets lost in translation. But my question would be, it was purchased directly from Karen at Grant Books. Could those elusive books "that we all had a chance to recieve" actually been distributed??? if so, at an additional cost? i still would love the mystery to be revealed!

it has been years since this happened. PM me if necessary. I cant stand being in the dark! Even the government discloses secrets faster!


A lot of people believe they were intentionally held back.

IMHO, Let it be. There is ample discussion on the forum to draw your own conclusions and no real need to revitalize the discussion at this time. What is done, is done and move on. If, you really want to research it feel free to do the homework. JMHO Of course. There were many facets to the story as I recall when it actually took place.

The world has moved on and so should this discussion, IMHO.

Bill,

If you don't mind, I (along with and other staff members) will be the judge of when a discussion needs to be discontinued or moved along.
TIA for your cooperation.


Jerome

My apologies. Nevermind.

[Sir_Boomme]

IIRC when Little Sisters of Eluria was announced Grant, they said that in the Gift Edition of the book, 30-50 copies would contain a remarque by Michael Whelan, those copies to be sold randomly so everyone would have a chance of getting one. My copies didn't (one had a KA doodle)

[Edit]
Here's the page on Grant website:

https://secure.grantbooks.com/z-sk-dt-1-lsoe.html



It sucks if they did that. I really wanted one of those remarques, I bought three copies to increase my chances, but didn't get any (one had the KA doodle).

Did anyone actually get a remarqued copy directly at the retail price?


A lot of people believe they were intentionally held back.

I never heard the story... Can someone fill me in?

oh yeah.... thanks for that link.
Now I remember what pissed me off a few years ago that made me pretty much stop buying new books....ie. that limitation of 800 WTTKH by grant that froze out the loyals that had purchased directly from Grant the previous past five high dollar #Limited's ... that had numbers above 500. Just when I was considering returning to buying collectables again... I'm all pissed off again and ready to say fukit once more.

I can for sure tell you that I'll never by another item from Grant ever again ... that's for sure... even if they were still publishing anything worthwhile.

Thanks for the trip down memory lane... now I can save my money for something offered by someone with more integrity... like hookers.
Yep... not over it...

and S&S still sucks big time - still don't have that POS S&S TGWLTG limited... if it was given to me... I'd use it to start my BBQ

[Sir_Boomme]

don't mind me..... just warming up for a showdown tomorrow morning with the auto repair place.

[Jimimck]

I had other reasons for not ever wanting to purchase from Grant again, and this back story just adds to that.

[webstar1000]

So... in a nut shell guys... these books (like the pic that Grant show) might never have been given to collectors like they promised?

[carlosdetweiller]

So... in a nut shell guys... these books (like the pic that Grant show) might never have been given to collectors like they promised?

That has long been the assumption. We assume that Robert (and Karen) pulled out all (or most all) of the copies with Whelan drawings for their own personal use. Karen sold a few copies with the smaller drawings to collectors but, to my knowledge, none of the larger color pieces have ever surfaced. We assume that Robert has them in his collection.

In the past and on more than one occasion our moderator, RF, has stated that when enough time has passed he will tell us the whole story. I think enough time has passed and I would like to know any additional information that may be available. IMO, it was one of the biggest and most dishonest rip-offs of collectors that I know of.

[Dano]

Wow.

Dan

[webstar1000]

Wow.

Dan

Ill second that Dan. WOW.... Unreal....

[Kingfan24]

So... in a nut shell guys... these books (like the pic that Grant show) might never have been given to collectors like they promised?

That has long been the assumption. We assume that Robert (and Karen) pulled out all (or most all) of the copies with Whelan drawings for their own personal use. Karen sold a few copies with the smaller drawings to collectors but, to my knowledge, none of the larger color pieces have ever surfaced. We assume that Robert has them in his collection.

In the past and on more than one occasion our moderator, RF, has stated that when enough time has passed he will tell us the whole story. I think enough time has passed and I would like to know any additional information that may be available. IMO, it was one of the biggest and most dishonest rip-offs of collectors that I know of.

I agree. It's been 6 years.

[bdwyer19]

I don't see the need for secrecy either. Especially after so many years. There has been turnover at Grant, so I wouldn't think it would harm anyone professionally.

[Robert Fulman]

I had a very bad experience with Grant Books in the past, wherein an employee of the company took money for items which were actually not intended for sale. The employee kept the money for his/herself and shipped the items which were destroyed in shipping. Hilarity ensued when the items were not able to be replaced, and the employee was not able to provide a refund. Mr. Wiener was not pleased when he found out about such shenanigans. I don't think I was the only person who got pulled into this scheme. The employee no longer works for Grant. I don't have any specific information about the Whelan drawings, but to the best of my knowledge that employee is the only person to have ever received one from Grant. I am an active collector of Grant Books, and just purchased their most recent offering (Phil Hale - Life Wants to Live (https://secure.grantbooks.com/z-artists-phil-hale-life_wants.html)). I bear no ill will for the company or Mr. Wiener. I would be surprised if he has 50 remarqued copies of LSOE sitting on a bookshelf somewhere. I think a more likely scenario is that the signature pages were removed from circulation before they were ever bound in the books. I don't know who might have been able to accomplish that feat.

[Roseannebarr]

I read todays post about the long walk and then re-read the historical essay by Bev Vincent. Can someone clarify what happened with the Sword in the Darkness? sounds like a full book? do i already have a copy in my King unpublished????

He didn’t want to discourage King from writing something else, perhaps something more topical and relevant to the era, and he ended up providing chapter-by-chapter feedback on King’s next book, Sword in the Darkness.

[Br!an]

I read todays post about the long walk and then re-read the historical essay by Bev Vincent. Can someone clarify what happened with the Sword in the Darkness? sounds like a full book? do i already have a copy in my King unpublished????

He didn’t want to discourage King from writing something else, perhaps something more topical and relevant to the era, and he ended up providing chapter-by-chapter feedback on King’s next book, Sword in the Darkness.

King apparently considers it unpublishable.

[webstar1000]

So... in a nut shell guys... these books (like the pic that Grant show) might never have been given to collectors like they promised?

That has long been the assumption. We assume that Robert (and Karen) pulled out all (or most all) of the copies with Whelan drawings for their own personal use. Karen sold a few copies with the smaller drawings to collectors but, to my knowledge, none of the larger color pieces have ever surfaced. We assume that Robert has them in his collection.

In the past and on more than one occasion our moderator, RF, has stated that when enough time has passed he will tell us the whole story. I think enough time has passed and I would like to know any additional information that may be available. IMO, it was one of the biggest and most dishonest rip-offs of collectors that I know of.

Did Michael Whelan do the remarques "just because" that you know of Bob? Or was he contracted to do so? The reason I ask... if he did those to "surprise" his fans.. that never got them... well... I would be pretty upset.

[Lookwhoitis]

So... in a nut shell guys... these books (like the pic that Grant show) might never have been given to collectors like they promised?

That has long been the assumption. We assume that Robert (and Karen) pulled out all (or most all) of the copies with Whelan drawings for their own personal use. Karen sold a few copies with the smaller drawings to collectors but, to my knowledge, none of the larger color pieces have ever surfaced. We assume that Robert has them in his collection.

In the past and on more than one occasion our moderator, RF, has stated that when enough time has passed he will tell us the whole story. I think enough time has passed and I would like to know any additional information that may be available. IMO, it was one of the biggest and most dishonest rip-offs of collectors that I know of.

+1

I would also like to know!

[carlosdetweiller]

So... in a nut shell guys... these books (like the pic that Grant show) might never have been given to collectors like they promised?

That has long been the assumption. We assume that Robert (and Karen) pulled out all (or most all) of the copies with Whelan drawings for their own personal use. Karen sold a few copies with the smaller drawings to collectors but, to my knowledge, none of the larger color pieces have ever surfaced. We assume that Robert has them in his collection.

In the past and on more than one occasion our moderator, RF, has stated that when enough time has passed he will tell us the whole story. I think enough time has passed and I would like to know any additional information that may be available. IMO, it was one of the biggest and most dishonest rip-offs of collectors that I know of.

Did Michael Whelan do the remarques "just because" that you know of Bob? Or was he contracted to do so? The reason I ask... if he did those to "surprise" his fans.. that never got them... well... I would be pretty upset.

I don't know about Michael Whelan. I also don't really know anything definite regarding what did or did not go on within Donald Grant Books. I am just hypothesizing along with the rest of the Stephen King collecting world. I am hoping someone with the real story will eventually come forward.

[Bev Vincent]

I read todays post about the long walk and then re-read the historical essay by Bev Vincent. Can someone clarify what happened with the Sword in the Darkness? sounds like a full book? do i already have a copy in my King unpublished????

He didn’t want to discourage King from writing something else, perhaps something more topical and relevant to the era, and he ended up providing chapter-by-chapter feedback on King’s next book, Sword in the Darkness.

It's about a race riot in an urban high school setting, influenced by John Farris and Don Robertson. More than King consider it unpublishable: it was rejected a dozen times. King has said that the book was marred by the fact that he was pawing over and trying to make sense of a relationship of four years that had just broken up.

Rocky Wood convinced King to let him publish a single chapter out of the book. Trivia: It is also known as "Good Day Sunshine"

[Roseannebarr]

I read todays post about the long walk and then re-read the historical essay by Bev Vincent. Can someone clarify what happened with the Sword in the Darkness? sounds like a full book? do i already have a copy in my King unpublished????

He didn’t want to discourage King from writing something else, perhaps something more topical and relevant to the era, and he ended up providing chapter-by-chapter feedback on King’s next book, Sword in the Darkness.

It's about a race riot in an urban high school setting, influenced by John Farris and Don Robertson. More than King consider it unpublishable: it was rejected a dozen times. King has said that the book was marred by the fact that he was pawing over and trying to make sense of a relationship of four years that had just broken up.

Rocky Wood convinced King to let him publish a single chapter out of the book. Trivia: It is also known as "Good Day Sunshine"

Did you or anyone else you know read the story? is there a copy out there floating around where someone could send me a PDF? I love all 4 of his bachman books! i feel like he was way ahead of his time in his story ideas! Look at CELL for an example!

PS. Thanks for the information! I look forward to your historical essays the most!

[Bev Vincent]

I've only read the chapter in Rocky's book. The full MS is in his archives, but I didn't have a chance to read it when I was there. I assume Rocky read it. I can't remember how extensively Steve Spignesi covered it in Lost Works.

[Papaseraphim]

This is a quote from the grant page I posted earlier:

"Michael Whelan told us that he did drawings on 30 - 50 of the signature pages when he was signing them and we have no idea which numbered copies they ended up in. He sent us photos of two of them and one is posted here. If you receive one of these be aware that the value of these books are probably in excess of $1,000 as copies of the Artist Edition of THE DARK TOWER VII in which Michael made similar drawings sold on ebay or to collectors for over $1,200 each. I expect that most of these copies will remain undiscovered for years as many collectors never take the shrink wrap off their books.."

From the above I infer that they were done on Whelan's initiative.






So... in a nut shell guys... these books (like the pic that Grant show) might never have been given to collectors like they promised?

That has long been the assumption. We assume that Robert (and Karen) pulled out all (or most all) of the copies with Whelan drawings for their own personal use. Karen sold a few copies with the smaller drawings to collectors but, to my knowledge, none of the larger color pieces have ever surfaced. We assume that Robert has them in his collection.

In the past and on more than one occasion our moderator, RF, has stated that when enough time has passed he will tell us the whole story. I think enough time has passed and I would like to know any additional information that may be available. IMO, it was one of the biggest and most dishonest rip-offs of collectors that I know of.

Did Michael Whelan do the remarques "just because" that you know of Bob? Or was he contracted to do so? The reason I ask... if he did those to "surprise" his fans.. that never got them... well... I would be pretty upset.

[webstar1000]

This is a quote from the grant page I posted earlier:

"Michael Whelan told us that he did drawings on 30 - 50 of the signature pages when he was signing them and we have no idea which numbered copies they ended up in. He sent us photos of two of them and one is posted here. If you receive one of these be aware that the value of these books are probably in excess of $1,000 as copies of the Artist Edition of THE DARK TOWER VII in which Michael made similar drawings sold on ebay or to collectors for over $1,200 each. I expect that most of these copies will remain undiscovered for years as many collectors never take the shrink wrap off their books.."

From the above I infer that they were done on Whelan's initiative.






So... in a nut shell guys... these books (like the pic that Grant show) might never have been given to collectors like they promised?

That has long been the assumption. We assume that Robert (and Karen) pulled out all (or most all) of the copies with Whelan drawings for their own personal use. Karen sold a few copies with the smaller drawings to collectors but, to my knowledge, none of the larger color pieces have ever surfaced. We assume that Robert has them in his collection.

In the past and on more than one occasion our moderator, RF, has stated that when enough time has passed he will tell us the whole story. I think enough time has passed and I would like to know any additional information that may be available. IMO, it was one of the biggest and most dishonest rip-offs of collectors that I know of.

Did Michael Whelan do the remarques "just because" that you know of Bob? Or was he contracted to do so? The reason I ask... if he did those to "surprise" his fans.. that never got them... well... I would be pretty upset.

Agreed. Sure sounds like it. They also have a pic of one of the remarques... wow... I would have been some happy to open my book and get that!

[Randall Flagg]

So... in a nut shell guys... these books (like the pic that Grant show) might never have been given to collectors like they promised?

That has long been the assumption. We assume that Robert (and Karen) pulled out all (or most all) of the copies with Whelan drawings for their own personal use. Karen sold a few copies with the smaller drawings to collectors but, to my knowledge, none of the larger color pieces have ever surfaced. We assume that Robert has them in his collection.

In the past and on more than one occasion our moderator, RF, has stated that when enough time has passed he will tell us the whole story. I think enough time has passed and I would like to know any additional information that may be available. IMO, it was one of the biggest and most dishonest rip-offs of collectors that I know of.
I probably should tell what I know, but I'm not sure what good would come from it. People have figured it out...

[Roseannebarr]

I guess it would be an urban legend forever, but i would love to know where those books are now. this story has been going on for years and we actually got to see a remarque! I find it to be fascinating. i would assume a precious few were able to obtain a copy from Ebay or Karen? But 30??? Where are they?

[Randall Flagg]

But 30??? Where are they?
Back East.

[Nerak]

I was not involved with what happened to said books.
I was an employee.
I had perks from being an employee.
That is why I ended up with two.
If you were an employee there, you probably woulda too.
But as to what happened to the books I am not at liberty to say.

As to why Michael did the remarks, he was asked, by Robert, to do them and I believe he was paid to do them as well. But my memory sucks, so I am not 100% sure.
I know there were not 50. There may have been 30-50 with the the KA symbol and Eye and such INCLUDING the remarks, but not all were "art" per say.

[Kingfan24]

I was not involved with what happened to said books.
I was an employee.
I had perks from being an employee.
That is why I ended up with two.
If you were an employee there, you probably woulda too.
But as to what happened to the books I am not at liberty to say.

As to why Michael did the remarks, he was asked, by Robert, to do them and I believe he was paid to do them as well. But my memory sucks, so I am not 100% sure.
I know there were not 50. There may have been 30-50 with the the KA symbol and Eye and such INCLUDING the remarks, but not all were "art" per say.

Sorry to say but that is such a load of shit. Not to mention unethical. But I guess that's about as good an answer as we'll get.

[Nerak]

Talk to the owner of the business if you believe that the business was doing something unethical.

[Nerak]

I worked there for seven years.
The things I could tell you!
I would probably end up BACK in jail! Yes, I said back.
I did bad things. I did time for it.
I want to tell you everything.
I feel that you SHOULD know everything! I honestly do.
But I can't. I just can't do that to the business.
Robert is not that bad a guy. I already hurt him.
I can't spill everything. No matter what you say about me or to me.
Maybe that's why I don't come here anymore.
I talked to someone today who said this had come up again and I wanted to see what was being said.
And seeing my name brought up in having something to do with it made me want to speak out.
I was ONLY an employee.
I did not make the decisions as to what happened to the books or how they were distributed.
Or how much they cost.
Or anything. Well I got to proof read some cool stuff and see everything before you all....
I am sorry that you were promised something that you did not get. And believe me, the art is beautiful!
I wish things coulda been different. But I can woulda coulda shoulda all I want and it's not gonna change a thing.
And yeah, I am typing like I talk. You are lucky I am putting my Rs in or my New England accent would be ALL over this!

[Sir_Boomme]

Karen...Fess up....

was it really you that wrecked my Gremlin?

[Nerak]

Yeah, it was! Dude, why the FUCK would you own a Gremlin?!?!??!?!

[Roseannebarr]

I worked there for seven years.
The things I could tell you!
I would probably end up BACK in jail! Yes, I said back.
I did bad things. I did time for it.
I want to tell you everything.
I feel that you SHOULD know everything! I honestly do.
But I can't. I just can't do that to the business.
Robert is not that bad a guy. I already hurt him.
I can't spill everything. No matter what you say about me or to me.
Maybe that's why I don't come here anymore.
I talked to someone today who said this had come up again and I wanted to see what was being said.
And seeing my name brought up in having something to do with it made me want to speak out.
I was ONLY an employee.
I did not make the decisions as to what happened to the books or how they were distributed.
Or how much they cost.
Or anything. Well I got to proof read some cool stuff and see everything before you all....
I am sorry that you were promised something that you did not get. And believe me, the art is beautiful!
I wish things coulda been different. But I can woulda coulda shoulda all I want and it's not gonna change a thing.
And yeah, I am typing like I talk. You are lucky I am putting my Rs in or my New England accent would be ALL over this!

This will forever be an urban legend, but we are learning a little more today! I just wish the whole truth would finally come out. I disagree with Jack Nicholson, I CAN HANDLE THE TRUTH. Someone else said THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE. I hold no ill will or animousity towards anyone, it is an interesting story, with no ending and lots of speculation! I hate SPECULATION. I am an accountant.

There really isnt much of a business to protect anymore. Grant is selling old books, old, old T Shirts and not much else.

Thanks! Glen

[Kingfan24]

Karen, I know you didn't have a hand in it but I think at this point a lot of people's perception of the company isn't great. It would be nice to have an answer, though thanks for providing what you could.

[Sir_Boomme]

Yeah, it was! Dude, why the FUCK would you own a Gremlin?!?!??!?!

well hell....because.... the T-Shirt is so darn cool... :)

[Nerak]

I worked there for seven years.
The things I could tell you!
I would probably end up BACK in jail! Yes, I said back.
I did bad things. I did time for it.
I want to tell you everything.
I feel that you SHOULD know everything! I honestly do.
But I can't. I just can't do that to the business.
Robert is not that bad a guy. I already hurt him.
I can't spill everything. No matter what you say about me or to me.
Maybe that's why I don't come here anymore.
I talked to someone today who said this had come up again and I wanted to see what was being said.
And seeing my name brought up in having something to do with it made me want to speak out.
I was ONLY an employee.
I did not make the decisions as to what happened to the books or how they were distributed.
Or how much they cost.
Or anything. Well I got to proof read some cool stuff and see everything before you all....
I am sorry that you were promised something that you did not get. And believe me, the art is beautiful!
I wish things coulda been different. But I can woulda coulda shoulda all I want and it's not gonna change a thing.
And yeah, I am typing like I talk. You are lucky I am putting my Rs in or my New England accent would be ALL over this!

This will forever be an urban legend, but we are learning a little more today! I just wish the whole truth would finally come out. I disagree with Jack Nicholson, I CAN HANDLE THE TRUTH. Someone else said THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE. I hold no ill will or animousity towards anyone, it is an interesting story, with no ending and lots of speculation! I hate SPECULATION. I am an accountant.

There really isnt much of a business to protect anymore. Grant is selling old books, old, old T Shirts and not much else.

Thanks! Glen


There are a select few who know the truth.

[Kingfan24]

I worked there for seven years.
The things I could tell you!
I would probably end up BACK in jail! Yes, I said back.
I did bad things. I did time for it.
I want to tell you everything.
I feel that you SHOULD know everything! I honestly do.
But I can't. I just can't do that to the business.
Robert is not that bad a guy. I already hurt him.
I can't spill everything. No matter what you say about me or to me.
Maybe that's why I don't come here anymore.
I talked to someone today who said this had come up again and I wanted to see what was being said.
And seeing my name brought up in having something to do with it made me want to speak out.
I was ONLY an employee.
I did not make the decisions as to what happened to the books or how they were distributed.
Or how much they cost.
Or anything. Well I got to proof read some cool stuff and see everything before you all....
I am sorry that you were promised something that you did not get. And believe me, the art is beautiful!
I wish things coulda been different. But I can woulda coulda shoulda all I want and it's not gonna change a thing.
And yeah, I am typing like I talk. You are lucky I am putting my Rs in or my New England accent would be ALL over this!

This will forever be an urban legend, but we are learning a little more today! I just wish the whole truth would finally come out. I disagree with Jack Nicholson, I CAN HANDLE THE TRUTH. Someone else said THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE. I hold no ill will or animousity towards anyone, it is an interesting story, with no ending and lots of speculation! I hate SPECULATION. I am an accountant.

There really isnt much of a business to protect anymore. Grant is selling old books, old, old T Shirts and not much else.

Thanks! Glen


There are a select few who know the truth.

And for what it's worth I think someone should post the truth - even if they have to make an alias to do so.

[Sir_Boomme]

I'll trade a limited edition Gremlin Tshirt - signed by the designer... for a Whelan ReMarqued Grant book....

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7604/16863809867_429abedcd3_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/rGcr9x)


https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8690/17045242386_13ba2a208f_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/rYejHq)

just kidding... no way I'd give up one of my car T's

[jhanic]

I was not involved with what happened to said books.
I was an employee.
I had perks from being an employee.
That is why I ended up with two.
If you were an employee there, you probably woulda too.
But as to what happened to the books I am not at liberty to say.

As to why Michael did the remarks, he was asked, by Robert, to do them and I believe he was paid to do them as well. But my memory sucks, so I am not 100% sure.
I know there were not 50. There may have been 30-50 with the the KA symbol and Eye and such INCLUDING the remarks, but not all were "art" per say.

Karen, :huglove:

John

[Merlin1958]

I was not involved with what happened to said books.
I was an employee.
I had perks from being an employee.
That is why I ended up with two.
If you were an employee there, you probably woulda too.
But as to what happened to the books I am not at liberty to say.

As to why Michael did the remarks, he was asked, by Robert, to do them and I believe he was paid to do them as well. But my memory sucks, so I am not 100% sure.
I know there were not 50. There may have been 30-50 with the the KA symbol and Eye and such INCLUDING the remarks, but not all were "art" per say.

Karen, :huglove:

John

I'll second that sentiment!!!

[Br!an]

Yeah, it was! Dude, why the FUCK would you own a Gremlin?!?!??!?!

The dealer didn't have any Pacers?

[Nerak]

Ah John and Bill! Missed you too! And awwww Sucks that the Yanks lost and the Sox won BIG TIME!!! Nice opening day for baseball!!!!

[Merlin1958]

Ah John and Bill! Missed you too! And awwww Sucks that the Yanks lost and the Sox won BIG TIME!!! Nice opening day for baseball!!!!

That's my girl!!!








Boston, still sucks!!! LOL

[Nerak]

Yeah, but we do it soooo well! You did see the super bowl, RIGHT? It was The Butler, in the end zone, with a pick!!!!!!! :nana::nana::nana::nana::nana:

[Roseannebarr]

Yeah, but we do it soooo well! You did see the super bowl, RIGHT? It was The Butler, in the end zone, with a pick!!!!!!! :nana::nana::nana::nana::nana:

Thank You for time! it is always a pleasure to hear from those intimately involved in the process! I still think it is a mystery. Like al capones vault, etc....

[Merlin1958]

Yeah, but we do it soooo well! You did see the super bowl, RIGHT? It was The Butler, in the end zone, with a pick!!!!!!! :nana::nana::nana::nana::nana:

Believe it or not I was kinda, sorta rooting for the, Pats over, Seattle. Cocky bastards!!! LOL Now, if you could only beat the, Giants!!!



18-1!!!!

[Nerak]

The mystery is always in the unknown. To some, it's just a joke.

And the Giants are still big freaking babies who can't get out of their own way. Patriots show that a perfect seasons means nothing when you choke at the end. 18-1 means nothin!

[Merlin1958]

The mystery is always in the unknown. To some, it's just a joke.

And the Giants are still big freaking babies who can't get out of their own way. Patriots show that a perfect seasons means nothing when you choke at the end. 18-1 means nothin!

We should have gotten married. Imagine how screwed up our kids would be!!! LOL LOL



Mommy? Don't yell at, Daddy' Giants!!! LOL LOL LOL

[Papaseraphim]

Wow, I didn't realize there were so few of the doodles! I thought 30-50 were remarques and a lot more doodles.

My copy of LSOE with the KA symbol:

http://i933.photobucket.com/albums/ad175/papaseraphim/DT/IMG_1890.jpg (http://s933.photobucket.com/user/papaseraphim/media/DT/IMG_1890.jpg.html)


I was not involved with what happened to said books.
I was an employee.
I had perks from being an employee.
That is why I ended up with two.
If you were an employee there, you probably woulda too.
But as to what happened to the books I am not at liberty to say.

As to why Michael did the remarks, he was asked, by Robert, to do them and I believe he was paid to do them as well. But my memory sucks, so I am not 100% sure.
I know there were not 50. There may have been 30-50 with the the KA symbol and Eye and such INCLUDING the remarks, but not all were "art" per say.

[Sir_Boomme]

Yeah, it was! Dude, why the FUCK would you own a Gremlin?!?!??!?!

The dealer didn't have any Pacers?

that made me laugh...

but yeah... go ahead...make fun.... I'll race whatever you got... as long as we don't have to stop anytime soon that is... no fuckin' brakes :(

like the 350 V8 plastic Fiero I have.... stick a big enough engine into any compact... even a 1970 gremlin... and you're gonna get respect on the road...

and a 360 V8 with an oversized cam and a 4 barrel carb... in a 2500 lb short wheel base car.... works fine with me... now if I could only stop it.

BTW... I live one block from the high school... and the Gremlin has been stealing all the teenage boys' attention away from the Fiero. When the Gremlin is out... the Fiero is ignored.
Can't wait to really trick it out fully.

[jsmcmullen92]

Yeah, it was! Dude, why the FUCK would you own a Gremlin?!?!??!?!

The dealer didn't have any Pacers?

that made me laugh...

but yeah... go ahead...make fun.... I'll race whatever you got... as long as we don't have to stop anytime soon that is... no fuckin' brakes :(

like the 350 V8 plastic Fiero I have.... stick a big enough engine into any compact... even a 1970 gremlin... and you're gonna get respect on the road...

and a 360 V8 with an oversized cam and a 4 barrel carb... in a 2500 lb short wheel base car.... works fine with me... now if I could only stop it.

BTW... I live one block from the high school... and the Gremlin has been stealing all the teenage boys' attention away from the Fiero. When the Gremlin is out... the Fiero is ignored.
Can't wait to really trick it out fully.

Can we fit a 350 V8 in my Volks? It can handle it 😉

[Sir_Boomme]

Yeah, it was! Dude, why the FUCK would you own a Gremlin?!?!??!?!

The dealer didn't have any Pacers?



Can we fit a 350 V8 in my Volks? It can handle it ��





There is actually a 66 VW bug that shows up most Saturday Night's at Cabella's car night in Buda - it has a 350 stuffed into the front... with nitrous cans where the rubberband motor used to go in the back - it is one badass bug. It does have a significantly upgraded tranny though...."to handle it"




and I'm guessing right about now... RF is thinking...


BACK ON TOPIC!

[burial]

Wow, I didn't realize there were so few of the doodles! I thought 30-50 were remarques and a lot more doodles.


I was not involved with what happened to said books.
I was an employee.
I had perks from being an employee.
That is why I ended up with two.
If you were an employee there, you probably woulda too.
But as to what happened to the books I am not at liberty to say.

As to why Michael did the remarks, he was asked, by Robert, to do them and I believe he was paid to do them as well. But my memory sucks, so I am not 100% sure.
I know there were not 50. There may have been 30-50 with the the KA symbol and Eye and such INCLUDING the remarks, but not all were "art" per say.

I have something like this:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CtpUH5Bf9I4/TbmuBFWBaEI/AAAAAAAAF7s/-_xbU4Ko8Jc/s1600/DT1LSOE_AE_%2528Grant%2529_signature.JPG
looks like a doodle... :)

[webstar1000]

I have read over the stuff that was written by the person (Karen?) and I am surprised by it. I feel like there was some real shady things going on at Grant that she knows about. I wonder if Mr. King is aware of these shenanigans? Or Mr. Whelan for that matter? Either way to dupe collectors/buyers is bullshit. In other words they knew the books were worth a lot more... mislead collectors that they "could" get something spectacular for more than they paid.. and the most I have seen here is a crow, Ka, his signature 'M' or Crimson King eye..... I always search for a good deal. Like all of us... but I would never,ever 'dupe' someone. That frankly disgusts me. My 2 cents....

[AKC]

I have something like this:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CtpUH5Bf9I4/TbmuBFWBaEI/AAAAAAAAF7s/-_xbU4Ko8Jc/s1600/DT1LSOE_AE_%2528Grant%2529_signature.JPG
looks like a doodle... :)

OMG Burial, that is my missing #90 LSOE AE that goes with my complete DT #90 SET!!!!!

[webstar1000]

I have something like this:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CtpUH5Bf9I4/TbmuBFWBaEI/AAAAAAAAF7s/-_xbU4Ko8Jc/s1600/DT1LSOE_AE_%2528Grant%2529_signature.JPG
looks like a doodle... :)

OMG Burial, that is my missing #90 LSOE AE that goes with my complete DT #90 SET!!!!!

Ya GOTTA hook a brother up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Br!an]

I have something like this:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CtpUH5Bf9I4/TbmuBFWBaEI/AAAAAAAAF7s/-_xbU4Ko8Jc/s1600/DT1LSOE_AE_%2528Grant%2529_signature.JPG
looks like a doodle... :)

It's his "signature". It's the way he signs his art.

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/MW.jpg

[Kingfan24]

I love how this thread started out with trying to get an answer and it was skirted around just like every other damn time.

[burial]

It's his "signature". It's the way he signs his art.
http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/MW.jpg

Wow... I wasn't aware of that... thank you!

[Robert Fulman]

I have read over the stuff that was written by the person (Karen?) and I am surprised by it. I feel like there was some real shady things going on at Grant that she knows about. I wonder if Mr. King is aware of these shenanigans? Or Mr. Whelan for that matter? Either way to dupe collectors/buyers is bullshit. In other words they knew the books were worth a lot more... mislead collectors that they "could" get something spectacular for more than they paid.. and the most I have seen here is a crow, Ka, his signature 'M' or Crimson King eye..... I always search for a good deal. Like all of us... but I would never,ever 'dupe' someone. That frankly disgusts me. My 2 cents....

Let's be clear here: there absolutely were shady goings at Grant. Specifically, a former employee took money from Grant's customers, sent them items that were not intended for sale, and then kept the money for herself. That is not in question. I have first-hand knowledge of the situation, as I lost money in these dealings, and she wrote above that she spent time in jail for the matter. I don't think this means that she had anything at all to do with the case of the missing remarques, but I do think it makes her perhaps the least reliable witness imaginable. I'll email Mr. Wiener later today to see if he wants to comment, but I assume he won't.

[webstar1000]

I have read over the stuff that was written by the person (Karen?) and I am surprised by it. I feel like there was some real shady things going on at Grant that she knows about. I wonder if Mr. King is aware of these shenanigans? Or Mr. Whelan for that matter? Either way to dupe collectors/buyers is bullshit. In other words they knew the books were worth a lot more... mislead collectors that they "could" get something spectacular for more than they paid.. and the most I have seen here is a crow, Ka, his signature 'M' or Crimson King eye..... I always search for a good deal. Like all of us... but I would never,ever 'dupe' someone. That frankly disgusts me. My 2 cents....

Let's be clear here: there absolutely were shady goings at Grant. Specifically, a former employee took money from Grant's customers, sent them items that were not intended for sale, and then kept the money for herself. That is not in question. I have first-hand knowledge of the situation, as I lost money in these dealings, and she wrote above that she spent time in jail for the matter. I don't think this means that she had anything at all to do with the case of the missing remarques, but I do think it makes her perhaps the least reliable witness imaginable. I'll email Mr. Wiener later today to see if he wants to comment, but I assume he won't.

WOW.... the dirt coming out here is blowing me away.

[webstar1000]

I have something like this:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CtpUH5Bf9I4/TbmuBFWBaEI/AAAAAAAAF7s/-_xbU4Ko8Jc/s1600/DT1LSOE_AE_%2528Grant%2529_signature.JPG
looks like a doodle... :)

It's his "signature". It's the way he signs his art.

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/MW.jpg

I love the way he signs... in 2 of my Whelan's you really have to look for it!

[Nerak]

[QUOTE=Nerak;913788]The mystery is always in the unknown. To some, it's just a joke.

And the Giants are still big freaking babies who can't get out of their own way. Patriots show that a perfect seasons means nothing when you choke at the end. 18-1 means nothin!

We should have gotten married. Imagine how screwed up our kids would be!!! LOL LOL


I am married to a Bill. And yeah, our family would be messed up. But I could never marry a Yankees fan! EEEWWWWWWWW

[Nerak]

Wow, I didn't realize there were so few of the doodles! I thought 30-50 were remarques and a lot more doodles.


I was not involved with what happened to said books.
I was an employee.
I had perks from being an employee.
That is why I ended up with two.
If you were an employee there, you probably woulda too.
But as to what happened to the books I am not at liberty to say.

As to why Michael did the remarks, he was asked, by Robert, to do them and I believe he was paid to do them as well. But my memory sucks, so I am not 100% sure.
I know there were not 50. There may have been 30-50 with the the KA symbol and Eye and such INCLUDING the remarks, but not all were "art" per say.

I have something like this:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CtpUH5Bf9I4/TbmuBFWBaEI/AAAAAAAAF7s/-_xbU4Ko8Jc/s1600/DT1LSOE_AE_%2528Grant%2529_signature.JPG
looks like a doodle... :)

That doodle is even considered one of the 30-50. Anything above and beyond the signature was considered "remarked" for the purpose of the advertising

[webstar1000]

Wow, I didn't realize there were so few of the doodles! I thought 30-50 were remarques and a lot more doodles.


I was not involved with what happened to said books.
I was an employee.
I had perks from being an employee.
That is why I ended up with two.
If you were an employee there, you probably woulda too.
But as to what happened to the books I am not at liberty to say.

As to why Michael did the remarks, he was asked, by Robert, to do them and I believe he was paid to do them as well. But my memory sucks, so I am not 100% sure.
I know there were not 50. There may have been 30-50 with the the KA symbol and Eye and such INCLUDING the remarks, but not all were "art" per say.

I have something like this:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CtpUH5Bf9I4/TbmuBFWBaEI/AAAAAAAAF7s/-_xbU4Ko8Jc/s1600/DT1LSOE_AE_%2528Grant%2529_signature.JPG
looks like a doodle... :)

That doodle is even considered one of the 30-50. Anything above and beyond the signature was considered "remarked" for the purpose of the advertising

I don't buy that. Sorry....

[Kingfan24]

Have to agree with Kris here. The one just sold by Oy the brave was remarqued with a crow. That book is UNNUMBERED.

[bdwyer19]

I always thought the ones with the KA symbol or Eye were not actually the 30-50 remarqued copies. But, then again, there's still so much speculation out there, it's impossible to tell what the truth really is.

[Robert Fulman]

I emailed Mr. Wiener. If he responds with anything other than "take a long walk off a short pier", I'll let you know.

[Randall Flagg]

I know that SK has worked with Joe Hill on a couple of stories. Has he collaborated with Owen King on anything?

[Bev Vincent]

I know that SK has worked with Joe Hill on a couple of stories. Has he collaborated with Owen King on anything?

Last November (https://www.goodreads.com/interviews/show/989.Stephen_King) he said he was working on something with Owen.

[Roseannebarr]

$849.99:
Stephen King CARRIE First Edition US Advance Proof VG inc. publishers letter! (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-CARRIE-First-Edition-US-Advance-Proof-VG-inc-publishers-letter-/201329929639?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ee032eda7)

This was a little tricky to find, and i was naive in thinking i could get it for $850. There is one online for BIN $1,999.

What would be a fair price for CARRIE First Edition Proof?

[needfulthings]

What would be a fair price for CARRIE First Edition Proof?

I THINK WE ARE ABOUT TO FIND OUT.....

[Randall Flagg]

$849.99:
Stephen King CARRIE First Edition US Advance Proof VG inc. publishers letter! (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-CARRIE-First-Edition-US-Advance-Proof-VG-inc-publishers-letter-/201329929639?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ee032eda7)

This was a little tricky to find, and i was naive in thinking i could get it for $850. There is one online for BIN $1,999.

What would be a fair price for CARRIE First Edition Proof?
>$1k and <$2K

[Roseannebarr]

$849.99:
Stephen King CARRIE First Edition US Advance Proof VG inc. publishers letter! (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King-CARRIE-First-Edition-US-Advance-Proof-VG-inc-publishers-letter-/201329929639?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ee032eda7)

This was a little tricky to find, and i was naive in thinking i could get it for $850. There is one online for BIN $1,999.

What would be a fair price for CARRIE First Edition Proof?
>$1k and <$2K

Thanks!

[Jimimck]

Hi team. Can you please let me know your thoughts on the value of the unsigned hardcover editions of Colorado Kid? I see The Collectors site has them at $25-35 but I've never seen them that low on eBay (granted my searches haven't been that thorough).

I don't have any of these and am keen to source a set of all three different covers but would like to know what I should expect to pay.

Thank you
James

[allasorte]

Hi team. Can you please let me know your thoughts on the value of the unsigned hardcover editions of Colorado Kid? I see The Collectors site has them at $25-35 but I've never seen them that low on eBay (granted my searches haven't been that thorough).

I don't have any of these and am keen to source a set of all three different covers but would like to know what I should expect to pay.

Thank you
James

I hope I'm right. There are some I've seen roughly for 50 each. CD has a newer version with limited slipcase for.....45? Personally, I bought the artist signed ones, all 3 and all 3 matching numbers with slipcase for 275 which I thought was very good. There's a turtle library hardcover for roughly 25-30. Then you have the limited ones, blue dust jacket of 1500 copies going for 110 plus then the s/l of same jacket for about 330 plus. Too many options right? The lettered edition is..... a lot!

[OneFathom]

Question about the older book club editions...

Aside from those novels with a # line, specific gutter code or those stated as "First Edition," is there anything about them that's differentiates them from a true first edition copy. For example, Misery. I was looking at the copyright information on a BCE & a first edition (trade) and couldn't find any differences. What's the consensus?

[allasorte]

Question about the older book club editions...

Aside from those novels with a # line, specific gutter code or those stated as "First Edition," is there anything about them that's differentiates them from a true first edition copy. For example, Misery. I was looking at the copyright information on a BCE & a first edition (trade) and couldn't find any differences. What's the consensus?

I don't know. What about the exterior boards of the book or the inside end pages? Are both books the same?

[Randall Flagg]

http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showwiki.php?title=Stephen+King+First+Editions:Mis ery+-+Trade+HC

[Br!an]

Hi team. Can you please let me know your thoughts on the value of the unsigned hardcover editions of Colorado Kid? I see The Collectors site has them at $25-35 but I've never seen them that low on eBay (granted my searches haven't been that thorough).

I don't have any of these and am keen to source a set of all three different covers but would like to know what I should expect to pay.

Thank you
James

I assume you mean the July 1977 publication.

These have been going up in price.

I bought all three in a slipcase for $95 six months ago. I felt that was a very good price at the time. I now feel it was a fantastic price since I could probably sell the set for about twice that now.

I'd say that they have returned to their issue price. $50 each and $30 for the slipcase. If you start paying attention you could probably still get them for less.

***

These were reprinted in 2010. No dustjacket. No interior art. PS still has the Chadbourne version in stock for $25. Make sure you change the currency to dollars. They are charging 25£ as well.

The Chadbourne and Miller versions of the 2010 edition were reprinted again in 2013.

Some of these later editions are getting stupid prices for some strange reason.

[Jimimck]

Thanks Brian, just what I was looking for. I am looking for the 2007 editions. Was looking to get all three for around $100. Sounds like I may be a bit hopeful at that price?

Cheers

[ur2ndbiggestfan]

I can't remember the exact number, but the COLORADO KID reprints from PS Publishing were limited to a certain number of copies. I THINK it was 100 each and maybe that's why the prices are going up, who knows?

[allasorte]

I can't remember the exact number, but the COLORADO KID reprints from PS Publishing were limited to a certain number of copies. I THINK it was 100 each and maybe that's why the prices are going up, who knows?
Ths is from SKCollector, hope he won't get mad, hope this helps.

A lettered edition of 99 copies bound in leather and traycased. Signed by SK and all three artists. The original number of copies was 52, but PS publishing recieved permission to produce extra copies. Naturally some collectors were pleased to be able to get an otherwise sold out edition; others were unhappy assuming this would devalue the book on the secondary market. $1,000 - $1,700

A limited edition of 450 copies. Numbered, slipcased and signed by SK and the contributing illustrator. $300 - $400

An artist edition of 1,000 copies signed and numbered by the contributing illustrator. $100

An unsigned, unnumbered hardback edition of 10,000 copies. While this is technically limited, it's not a 1st edition and with so many other editions of this book available will probably drop in value after release $25 - $35

PS publishing tried something very different with this book. They split up the artwork evenly between 3 illustrators (JK Potter, Edward Miller, and Glen Chadbourne). So each edition has three states. You could buy a limited edition with JK Potter's drawings, and it would look completely different then the limited edition that was illustrated by Edward Miller. To help clarify which edition and state people are talking about PS publishing used the following letter/number system for ordering. To see additional pictures

[Jimimck]

An unsigned, unnumbered hardback edition of 10,000 copies. While this is technically limited, it's not a 1st edition and with so many other editions of this book available will probably drop in value after release $25 - $35

Just to clarify, it's these ones I am referring to in my query around value.

[Br!an]

I can't remember the exact number, but the COLORADO KID reprints from PS Publishing were limited to a certain number of copies. I THINK it was 100 each and maybe that's why the prices are going up, who knows?

It was 300 (100 ea) print run for the stripped down second edition and 200 (100 ea) for the second printing of the second edition.

I don't see these as collectible. I suppose a completist might be interested.

The limitation might have something to do with the price. It might also be that people are confused by so many versions and don't actually understand what they are buying. Some are definitely overpaying for the one still available from PS for less.





An unsigned, unnumbered hardback edition of 10,000 copies. While this is technically limited, it's not a 1st edition and with so many other editions of this book available will probably drop in value after release $25 - $35

Just to clarify, it's these ones I am referring to in my query around value.


This is the one I was referring to also. This is the 2007 HC trade edition. I'm not sure why The Collector states it isn't a first. Perhaps because the Hard Case paperback was the true first. This is the first hardcover trade edition though.

[allasorte]

All I know is is that there are many editions of Colorado Kid. My opinion, too many.

[divemaster]

Right, and the following prices:


A limited edition of 450 copies. Numbered, slipcased and signed by SK and the contributing illustrator. $300 - $400

An artist edition of 1,000 copies signed and numbered by the contributing illustrator. $100

are about twice the current rate.

[Randall Flagg]

Are there any King short story that deals in any way with war (it could deal with a homeless veteran, for instance)? The story doesn't have to focus on war but just mention it.By short I mean less than 50K words, preferably <40K words.
Help from the experts is appreciated.

[Ari_Racing]

Squad D is somehow related.

[Ari_Racing]

Also Hearts in Atlantis with Why we're in Vietnam?

[WeDealInLead]

Blind Willie

[burial]

Blind Willie

definitely homeless Vietnam war veteran

[Bev Vincent]

Are there any King short story that deals in any way with war (it could deal with a homeless veteran, for instance)? The story doesn't have to focus on war but just mention it.By short I mean less than 50K words, preferably <40K words.
Help from the experts is appreciated.


Blind Willie from Hearts in Atlantis. The New Lieutenant's Rap. Why We're In Vietnam.

[webstar1000]

Hey guys... has anyone ever put into crono order, the best way to read King's books including the DT and all that surround it? Leaving out anything NOT related to the Dark Tower. My buddy asked me what he should read and how to read them. I remember reading Insomnia and LOSING my mind at the end when I realized that I had a read a huge book... for one reason. The Dark Tower. It made King... a King in my mind. Anyways, thoughts guys?

[Bev Vincent]

Hey guys... has anyone ever put into crono order, the best way to read King's books including the DT and all that surround it? Leaving out anything NOT related to the Dark Tower. My buddy asked me what he should read and how to read them. I remember reading Insomnia and LOSING my mind at the end when I realized that I had a read a huge book... for one reason. The Dark Tower. It made King... a King in my mind. Anyways, thoughts guys?

I don't know that there IS a best way -- that's certainly open to argument. In The Dark Tower Companion, I suggested that the best place to start is The Little Sisters of Eluria -- it's chronologically before The Gunslinger and it's more accessible than DT1. Certainly I would read the 1990s books like Insomnia, Black House and Hearts in Atlantis in publication order relative to the Dark Tower because they were proving grounds for concepts that were later included in the series. I'm sure you'd even get some debate over whether to read Wind Through the Keyhole in the 4.5 position or after the series. I side with the latter viewpoint. A person would probably want to read 'Salem's Lot before DT5 and the story Everything's Eventual before DT7, but for many of the other tie-ins I don't think it makes a great deal of difference.

[webstar1000]

Hey guys... has anyone ever put into crono order, the best way to read King's books including the DT and all that surround it? Leaving out anything NOT related to the Dark Tower. My buddy asked me what he should read and how to read them. I remember reading Insomnia and LOSING my mind at the end when I realized that I had a read a huge book... for one reason. The Dark Tower. It made King... a King in my mind. Anyways, thoughts guys?

I don't know that there IS a best way -- that's certainly open to argument. In The Dark Tower Companion, I suggested that the best place to start is The Little Sisters of Eluria -- it's chronologically before The Gunslinger and it's more accessible than DT1. Certainly I would read the 1990s books like Insomnia, Black House and Hearts in Atlantis in publication order relative to the Dark Tower because they were proving grounds for concepts that were later included in the series. I'm sure you'd even get some debate over whether to read Wind Through the Keyhole in the 4.5 position or after the series. I side with the latter viewpoint. A person would probably want to read 'Salem's Lot before DT5 and the story Everything's Eventual before DT7, but for many of the other tie-ins I don't think it makes a great deal of difference.

This is great stuff Bev! thanks!

[Theli]

That's actually a very pertinent question for me at the moment Webstar. I'm on my first run through of The Dark Tower, started with Little Sisters, then the Gunslinger. Now I went back and started up The Stand, as I understand it ties in as well. Interesting not to see it on your list though, Bev, not as important to the series as I had imagined?

Also though I started with Little Sister, I don't think it was necessary. It does little to help comprehend The Gunslinger in opinion. Though it is odd structurally I found The Gunslinger to be a more engaging read than LSOE. So far so good though.

[webstar1000]

Yeah I would love a Dark Tower order list. I mean I can do one but Bev is the man i think when it comes to this... I am going to give it to my buddy. HE CANNOT UNDERSTAND why I have ten's of thousands of dollars in rare DT stuff.... so I told him. The books took a hold on me and now he wants to see what it is all about. lol

[Bev Vincent]

That's actually a very pertinent question for me at the moment Webstar. I'm on my first run through of The Dark Tower, started with Little Sisters, then the Gunslinger. Now I went back and started up The Stand, as I understand it ties in as well. Interesting not to see it on your list though, Bev, not as important to the series as I had imagined?

Also though I started with Little Sister, I don't think it was necessary. It does little to help comprehend The Gunslinger in opinion. Though it is odd structurally I found The Gunslinger to be a more engaging read than LSOE. So far so good though.

The Stand is sort of important in that it gives some insight into Flagg, but I don't find it all that crucial to an understanding of the series. It makes one scene in DT4 make more sense.

[Bev Vincent]

Sorry -- we're getting a bit off topic here, but this is my list of the most significant tie-in works, in my opinion. You won't go far wrong reading them in publication order. I elaborate upon their significance to the mythos in The Dark Tower Companion:

‘Salem’s Lot
The Stand
The Talisman
Skeleton Crew -- specifically The Mist and Mrs. Todd's Shortcut
It
The Eyes of the Dragon
Insomnia
Rose Madder
Desperation
The Regulators
Bag of Bones
Hearts in Atlantis
The Plant
Black House
From a Buick 8
Everything’s Eventual
The Colorado Kid
Ur
Mile 81
11/22/63

[Theli]

Very cool! Thanks for the list Bev!

[Merlin1958]

Sorry -- we're getting a bit off topic here, but this is my list of the most significant tie-in works, in my opinion. You won't go far wrong reading them in publication order. I elaborate upon their significance to the mythos in The Dark Tower Companion:

‘Salem’s Lot
The Stand
The Talisman
Skeleton Crew -- specifically The Mist and Mrs. Todd's Shortcut
It
The Eyes of the Dragon
Insomnia
Rose Madder
Desperation
The Regulators
Bag of Bones
Hearts in Atlantis
The Plant
Black House
From a Buick 8
Everything’s Eventual
The Colorado Kid
Ur
Mile 81
11/22/63

Hey Bev, I'd be curious to know you're reasons for including "11/22/63" as a TDT related book. I mean besides the obvious "It" wink is there more to your thought process? Could you be specific? I really respect your insight. I have a few thoughts, but I have a feeling your thoughts would be more on point and cogent.

[Bev Vincent]

Here's what I wrote in The Dark Tower Companion:

Though King took measures to keep 11/22/63 from being an overt Dark Tower novel, many of its concepts are familiar to readers of the series. Most obvious is the use of a portal to travel to a different time. It is a North Central Positronics kind of door, always arriving at the same place and time, rather than a magic door, which can be aimed. The lead character, Jake Epping, spends a few months in Derry, which is a significant location in the Dark Tower universe.

The entire concept for 11/22/63 is laid out in Wolves of the Calla. Using Black Thirteen and the Unfound Door, a person could go back to Dallas on November 22, 1963, and see whether Oswald acted alone or was part of a larger conspiracy, Father Callahan says. “And perhaps you could change what happened that day. If there was ever a watershed moment in American life, that was it. Change that, change everything that came after. Vietnam . . . the race riots . . . everything.” Eddie replies, “But, Pere . . . what if you did it and changed things for the worse? I think it takes a great man to make a great mistake. And besides, someone who came after him might have been a really bad guy. Some Big Coffin Hunter who never got a chance because of Lee Harvey Oswald, or whoever it was.”

[carlosdetweiller]

Good stuff. Thanks, Bev!

[Br!an]

:thumbsup:

[webstar1000]

Bev is a real asset~! How do you retain the info Bev?? Do you read them more than once?

[Bev Vincent]

When doing the two Dark Tower books, I reread the entire series many times. However, I'm also quite adept at looking things up, which makes it seem like my memory is better than it is!

[zelig]

Well, however you do it Bev, your knowledge on the subject is astounding.

[stroppygoblin]

I find searchable e-books to be a great asset :)

[herbertwest]

Those this book looks like a 1st/1st or could it be a BCE or anything?

I dont have it, but if someone is interested I could probably get it (someone in Paris asked me to look at their books) : just make me an offer
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Also, would a stamp from Steve's agent (as well as the french agency dealing with King's rights) increase or decrease value? The PET SEMATARY do not have any, but another book had one.
I am waiting to recieve a full list of what he has and consider selling

[killjoy72]

Definitely a first. A BCE wouldn't have the price on the inside DJ flap, or state First Edition on the copyright page.
I think the stamp question is subjective.

[herbertwest]

Thanks !

[Merlin1958]

Here's what I wrote in The Dark Tower Companion:

Though King took measures to keep 11/22/63 from being an overt Dark Tower novel, many of its concepts are familiar to readers of the series. Most obvious is the use of a portal to travel to a different time. It is a North Central Positronics kind of door, always arriving at the same place and time, rather than a magic door, which can be aimed. The lead character, Jake Epping, spends a few months in Derry, which is a significant location in the Dark Tower universe.

The entire concept for 11/22/63 is laid out in Wolves of the Calla. Using Black Thirteen and the Unfound Door, a person could go back to Dallas on November 22, 1963, and see whether Oswald acted alone or was part of a larger conspiracy, Father Callahan says. “And perhaps you could change what happened that day. If there was ever a watershed moment in American life, that was it. Change that, change everything that came after. Vietnam . . . the race riots . . . everything.” Eddie replies, “But, Pere . . . what if you did it and changed things for the worse? I think it takes a great man to make a great mistake. And besides, someone who came after him might have been a really bad guy. Some Big Coffin Hunter who never got a chance because of Lee Harvey Oswald, or whoever it was.”

Many thanks, Bev!!!! I thought the "Yellow Card man" was some sort of nod as well, but maybe that's just me over thinking. Great stuff, Bev



Plus, isn't it great to be an official "Webstar1000 Asset"???? LOL LOL J/K Kris!!!!

[sgc1999]

Despite what Stu Tinker said in his eBay listing last week, April 16, 1974 was the date of the signing at the Univ. of Maine - Orono bookstore. Hutch has a flyer from that event and I confirmed the date with him. As such, this is a book from the first known King book signing and is of significant importance to collectors. To me that makes it worth quite a lot more than just an average signed copy of CARRIE. If the book and dj are in fine condition (and I'll bet they aren't) I wouldn't let that go from my hands for less than $3000. Less depending on condition. Most books from that signing show up in fairly worn condition.

I see sellers on eBay and ABE trying to sell signed copies of CARRIE for $2K and up and this book, IMO, is worth a whole lot more than a copy signed at a later date.

My pride and joy is a pristine copy of Carrie signed and inscribed on that day April 16th 1974 in mint condition with flawless dj. I have it in a special Carrie molded hard-case with red velvet inside. The cover is molded to look like the UK version of 1st i think. the front and back covers of the book have never been fully opened and it definitely has never been read. This book had a very fortunate life. And its gonna stay that way if i can help it :) not sure of the value but its definitely a pride and joy of my collection.

[zelig]

That's teriffic. Would be great to see some pictures of it.

[sgc1999]

I will definitely do that. I've been collecting for a while now and still have not started my collection thread. I Kind of lazy, i figure i gotta take all the pics then do the thing with photo bucket. Ive done it in the past i guess i just need to get motivated. :) Plus a lot of my books are the same that many other members already have. I will try to do just the Carrie soon and post it in my pride and joy thread.

[stroppygoblin]

Can anyone identify which printing the gutter code of 'U1' on a 1978 edition of The Stand indicates?

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Can anyone identify which printing the gutter code of 'U1' on a 1978 edition of The Stand indicates?

January 1979

[Bev Vincent]

Can anyone identify which printing the gutter code of 'U1' on a 1978 edition of The Stand indicates?

January 1979

I don't think anyone has tallied individual printings -- we only know when it was printed. There's not a lot of interest among collectors for anything other than the first printing.

[needfulthings]

There's not a lot of interest among collectors for anything other than the first printing.
AMEN BROTHER!
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[AstroDad]

Aside from the price on the jacket, is there any way to tell the difference between the dust jacket of a 1st edition Night Shift and a later print? i know some of the others have clear differences but I am having trouble figuring out any difference for Night Shift and haven't found a resource that points one out.

[webstar1000]

Any cool book stores in Vegas with some rare King stuff anyone knows of? Heading there this summer for a week:)

[ELazansky]

Any cool book stores in Vegas with some rare King stuff anyone knows of? Heading there this summer for a week:)

I don't know if they have King stuff, but Bauman Books is in Vegas - http://www.baumanrarebooks.com/about-us/locations/las-vegas-nv.aspx

[stroppygoblin]

I

Can anyone identify which printing the gutter code of 'U1' on a 1978 edition of The Stand indicates?

January 1979

Thanks Alan!

[webstar1000]

Any cool book stores in Vegas with some rare King stuff anyone knows of? Heading there this summer for a week:)

I don't know if they have King stuff, but Bauman Books is in Vegas - http://www.baumanrarebooks.com/about-us/locations/las-vegas-nv.aspx

That's awesome! Thanks so much! It's right beside where I am stayin too!

[zelig]

I was also going to suggest Bauman's... Prices will probably be through the roof, but it should be really interesting to see the store...

[bdwyer19]

I was also going to suggest Bauman's... Prices will probably be through the roof, but it should be really interesting to see the store...

I was last in Bauman's about 5 years ago. Lots of cool books to look at, but they actually had a signed Carrie for $5,000. Insane!

[zelig]

I was also going to suggest Bauman's... Prices will probably be through the roof, but it should be really interesting to see the store...

I was last in Bauman's about 5 years ago. Lots of cool books to look at, but they actually had a signed Carrie for $5,000. Insane!

Yeah, their prices are up there. They have high rentals I'd imagine with the prime locations. I like looking at their catalogs. Nice big color pictures with great descriptions.

[Merlin1958]

I was also going to suggest Bauman's... Prices will probably be through the roof, but it should be really interesting to see the store...

I was last in Bauman's about 5 years ago. Lots of cool books to look at, but they actually had a signed Carrie for $5,000. Insane!

Would a trip to the "Pawn Stars" shop be worth a look? I've heard they are pricey though.

[bdwyer19]

I was also going to suggest Bauman's... Prices will probably be through the roof, but it should be really interesting to see the store...

I was last in Bauman's about 5 years ago. Lots of cool books to look at, but they actually had a signed Carrie for $5,000. Insane!

Would a trip to the "Pawn Stars" shop be worth a look? I've heard they are pricey though.

Not worth it. It used to be a cool store - before they were TV stars. Now half the store in show memorabilia. They have a great chapel next store though... Elvis renewed my wife's and my vows there!

[zelig]

I went to that store about 2 years ago because I used to watch the show and enjoyed it... When I went, it was more like a "tourist attraction" with a line out the door. It felt like an attraction at Disneyland. Then when you went in, it was fun in one respect because you're in the actual store from the show... but on the other hand, the guys aren't working there behind the counter, maybe that's obvious, I don't know. But it's not like you can see them. I asked the security guy where they are, but he said they just show up on the weekends to film the show, when it's closed to the public.

For those who watch Counting Cars or American Restoration, those are also there in close proximity. Same deal though, felt like a tourist attraction.

[Merlin1958]

I went to that store about 2 years ago because I used to watch the show and enjoyed it... When I went, it was more like a "tourist attraction" with a line out the door. It felt like an attraction at Disneyland. Then when you went in, it was fun in one respect because you're in the actual store from the show... but on the other hand, the guys aren't working there behind the counter, maybe that's obvious, I don't know. But it's not like you can see them. I asked the security guy where they are, but he said they just show up on the weekends to film the show, when it's closed to the public.

For those who watch Counting Cars or American Restoration, those are also there in close proximity. Same deal though, felt like a tourist attraction.

Yeah, should have figured as much, but I occasionally catch the show and generally enjoy it. However, isn't there a rare book store (Is it Bauman's?) that they use for authentications in town as well?

[zelig]

Yep, read above. Bauman's is discussed.

[Randall Flagg]

Back on topic please.

[jon10g]

Hi
Are there any rare book stores in Boston, MA that might sell King books?
Thanks
Jon

[neo_trinity]

Hi,

I have a question that I would really love some input on. I have the chance to acquire two rare UK proofs:

1) The Gunslinger Proof - Sphere, 1988
2) Danse Macabre Proof - Macdonald, 1981

Both proofs are in Fine condition, and have never been read. The Gunslinger was inscribed by Stephen in 1991, I believe when he was in London. Danse Macabre is not signed, but as far as I am aware, very few were printed, possibly only for a select group of reviewers or more than likely in-house production. I did not know this copy existed before a few weeks ago, when I was speaking with a man who passed on buying it in the early 1980s when he was offered it. It was too expensive at the time.

The seller is an elderly collector in Wales, and although he is not a big King collector, he has sold me some extremely rare pieces in the past. The problem is that he knows both proofs are valuable, and will not accept a dollar for them. He will only trade for these. I am considering giving him a signed NEL proof of Salem's Lot for both.

It's not really a dilemma for me, because I have 2 Salem's Lot's and I have another Gunslinger proof, although it is not signed.

What I would like to know is whether or not you would consider this a good deal (for me or for him)? It's not a question of the value of either side, because I cannot sell my proof to pay for these, as he will not accept money. He only wants to trade for something he doesn't have. I cannot ask for more, although I probably could, but this is all he has left that I don't have, and nothing else would be comparable in value to his two.

Please let me know what you think.
Thank you.
Gerald

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Gerald. Firstly, what a nice position to be in.

I think you have answered your own question... "It's not really a dilemma for me, because I have 2 Salem's Lot's and I have another Gunslinger proof, although it is not signed."

It would be a great trade because you have "spares". I would not hesitate to do the deal as you will probably never get another chance to own them.

[biomieg]

Very interesting proposition, Gerald. To me, a NEL 'Salem's Lot proof is much more desirable than the UK Gunslinger and Danse Macabre proofs (although I would probably also sell some non-vital organs to obtain the UK Danse Macabre proof) so in that sense I would say the deal is to his advantage. But on the other hand you will both receive something in return that neither of you will probably ever find again. And with one copy of the NEL 'Salem's Lot proof still remaining in your collection, I think you will both be happy.

[webstar1000]

I have to agree. With having the two proofs... I would do the deal as well. Very impressive problem to have. I wish you would make a collection thread and POST a million pictures. I think your collection would make for some fantastic viewing. Gerald, there is a thread that is the top 10 favorite King collectables... can't seem to find it right now (maybe someone else can and post the link) but... would love to see what yours are my friend! Cheers, kris