Stephen King Collecting Questions

[stroppygoblin]

getting ready to buy this. Requesting feedback. Legit? Thoughts on the signatures? Thank!!!

http://s938.photobucket.com/user/stroppygoblin/media/IMG_0021_zps42835874.jpg.html

stroppy knows that i am requesting feedback!

http://s938.photobucket.com/user/stroppygoblin/media/IMG_0021_zps42835874.jpg.html

Putting the picture up so everyone can see. Both parties are pretty happy with the signatures authenticity, but as I wasn't at the signing (received the book as a trade from another forum member) it would be good to get some expert feedback.

http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad223/stroppygoblin/IMG_0021_zps42835874.jpg (http://s938.photobucket.com/user/stroppygoblin/media/IMG_0021_zps42835874.jpg.html)

[TwistedNadine]

Well Im not an expert and hopefully my opinion will be in the minority (would be very interested to hear what others think), but Im not feeling warm fuzzies about that signature.
Cant put my finger on what I dont like about it but just seems a little off to me.
Was it signed at one of the recent events?
Compare to one I had signed in Canada.
What do others think??

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/100_1581.JPG



getting ready to buy this. Requesting feedback. Legit? Thoughts on the signatures? Thank!!!

http://s938.photobucket.com/user/stroppygoblin/media/IMG_0021_zps42835874.jpg.html

stroppy knows that i am requesting feedback!

http://s938.photobucket.com/user/stroppygoblin/media/IMG_0021_zps42835874.jpg.html

Putting the picture up so everyone can see. Both parties are pretty happy with the signatures authenticity, but as I wasn't at the signing (received the book as a trade from another forum member) it would be good to get some expert feedback.

http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad223/stroppygoblin/IMG_0021_zps42835874.jpg (http://s938.photobucket.com/user/stroppygoblin/media/IMG_0021_zps42835874.jpg.html)

[stroppygoblin]

It was (according to the person who sold it to me) signed at the time of DT VII release. (so around 2004)

[TwistedNadine]

It was (according to the person who sold it to me) signed at the time of DT VII release. (so around 2004)

Hmm. Well here's my signed DT VII. When I compare the two Im skeptical.
Really want to hear what others think tho.

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/DTVII1.jpg

[ELazansky]

I'm no expert, but it doesn't look right to me. Especially the g in King...

[stroppygoblin]

SK varies his 'g's considerably:

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/9485/skcollection017.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img688/7207/deadzone.jpg

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/2741/tolkien015.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img502/4871/jas2o.jpg

(apologies to Bill for Hijacking his images, but they were the 1st ones I found...)

[needfulthings]

Just received 1st edition The Monk Oxford Press with King introduction (.01 + $3.99 shipping) Question Did this come with a dustjacket?

[Fsmdr]

Agree with Nadine, I would not buy that signature.

[bdwyer19]

Agree with Nadine, I would not buy that signature.

I also would agree. Something about it just doesn't feel right.

[Merlin1958]

I gotta agree. Sorry, dude!!!

[Randall Flagg]

SOS came out in 2004. I looked at numerous king sigs from ~2003-2013 and all have a very "tight" "t". The closest sig I could find that also had a little "heart" at the end of the "g", is this one:
http://www.thedarktower.org/custom/images/1386186215-2007%2011_8%20Blaze.jpg

[carlosdetweiller]

I'm very suspicious of the signature on the DT6. I wouldn't put that one in my collection.

Also, the signature on The Mist screenplay looks bad to me.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Also, the signature on The Mist screenplay looks bad to me.

No way that is King's signature.

[ELazansky]

SK varies his 'g's considerably:

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/9485/skcollection017.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img688/7207/deadzone.jpg

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/2741/tolkien015.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img502/4871/jas2o.jpg

(apologies to Bill for Hijacking his images, but they were the 1st ones I found...)

You assume that all of these sigs are legit - The Mist one is certainly not good.

[Roseannebarr]

all these comments sure make collecting flat signed books not FUN!! At least i know 60% of my books are legit. SK signed in person. Unless he sent in a look-alike!

[idlewarnings]

Are you sure that Blaze signature is good? I don't think it is.

[Br!an]

all these comments sure make collecting flat signed books not FUN!! At least i know 60% of my books are legit. SK signed in person. Unless he sent in a look-alike!

I'm scared to collect them. His signature changes quite a bit anyway. Add to that the forgeries, some of which are quite good, and I am very leery about buying anything I don't have great faith in. Either it has to be a beautiful, obvious King signature or I need to trust the person who is selling it.

[stroppygoblin]

Thanks all. Its disappointing to find out that one of my signed books is questionable, but at least I have 2 books that I am 100% sure on :)

http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad223/stroppygoblin/null_zpsaafb4809.jpg (http://s938.photobucket.com/user/stroppygoblin/media/null_zpsaafb4809.jpg.html)


http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad223/stroppygoblin/null_zps6ece91fc.jpg (http://s938.photobucket.com/user/stroppygoblin/media/null_zps6ece91fc.jpg.html)

[herbertwest]

:)

[webstar1000]

Question guys... I do not have any Remarques in my collection as of yet but with the Dark Tower set from Betts the copy of Doctor Sleep has one. Do you guys think it raises the value where there is much less of them available? Or what? I have read throughout here (going way back) some conflicting views.

[divemaster]

I think that's entirely a personal preference. Remarques do nothing for me, personally. In fact, a small part of me cringes at the thought of someone drawing pictures in my book. But I believe many folks here disagree and would pay a premium for a remarque. In fact, I believe Cemetery Dance offered remarques on a recent pre-order that ran $100 bucks or more and folks jumped on the chance to have those done.

I never go into these things thinking about the "value" of a book that someone else may assign. It's my book and the value is what it means to me. I never plan on selling these things. I guess if I had to liquidate due to financial reasons...but I don't buy books with that in mind.

So, do whatever floats your boat. If you like the added artwork, then go for it!

[webstar1000]

Good way to put it:) thanks man!

[Room 217 Caretaker]

I'm on the other end of the Remarque preference. I like it and collect it. I call it added value artwork.

Anytime the original artist draws art in the book it makes it special and my opinion, makes the collecting value go up.

However, I don't like when an artist, who has nothing to do with the book at all, draws in it. A great example of this is the recent Overlook Connection project.
Dave at Overlook commissioned artist Glenn Chadbourne to draw in Carrie, Salem's, The Shining, etc. Glenn had nothing to do with those books. For the record, I love Glenn's work, always have, and proudly partnered with Glenn on the recent release In Mint Condition: 2013. My point here, I don't think his artwork added value to the King books that Overlook Connection is printing.

Mulleins

[Br!an]

Question guys... I do not have any Remarques in my collection as of yet but with the Dark Tower set from Betts the copy of Doctor Sleep has one. Do you guys think it raises the value where there is much less of them available? Or what? I have read throughout here (going way back) some conflicting views.

What's the question?

A remarque by the illustrator will raise the value of the book by varying amounts. eg. Some gift editions of The Little Sisters of Eluria have a remarque (actually a sketch) of an eye that adds a small premium ($20?) to the value of the book. Reportedly around 50 of the gift editions of The Dark Tower have remarques. Those bring a premium of several hundred dollars since they are rare.

Some artists do many remarques, Glenn Chadbourne for one. Being that prolific saturates the market and lowers the aftermarket value of his work.

A unique or limited run is more valuable.

[webstar1000]

I'm on the other end of the Remarque preference. I like it and collect it. I call it added value artwork.

Anytime the original artist draws art in the book it makes it special and my opinion, makes the collecting value go up.

However, I don't like when an artist, who has nothing to do with the book at all, draws in it. A great example of this is the recent Overlook Connection project.
Dave at Overlook commissioned artist Glenn Chadbourne to draw in Carrie, Salem's, The Shining, etc. Glenn had nothing to do with those books. For the record, I love Glenn's work, always have, and proudly partnered with Glenn on the recent release In Mint Condition: 2013. My point here, I don't think his artwork added value to the King books that Overlook Connection is printing.

Mulleins

I think I am with you Ralph... I got one of the 100 Doctor Sleeps by Vincent and since of the 750 numbered there is only a 100 of these... I feel it means more. BUT if you had nothing to do with the book..... totally agree with you on that point. I think I got my answer for sure! Thanks guys:)

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

I don't want anyone to draw in my books, so I'm against remarques.

[bdwyer19]

I'm on the other end of the Remarque preference. I like it and collect it. I call it added value artwork.

Anytime the original artist draws art in the book it makes it special and my opinion, makes the collecting value go up.

However, I don't like when an artist, who has nothing to do with the book at all, draws in it. A great example of this is the recent Overlook Connection project.
Dave at Overlook commissioned artist Glenn Chadbourne to draw in Carrie, Salem's, The Shining, etc. Glenn had nothing to do with those books. For the record, I love Glenn's work, always have, and proudly partnered with Glenn on the recent release In Mint Condition: 2013. My point here, I don't think his artwork added value to the King books that Overlook Connection is printing.

Mulleins

I completely agree. I don't seek out artists because the value of the book might increase. Instead, I love their work and think a remarque would add great sentimental value - but only if they were involved with the book in the first place.

[webstar1000]

I don't want anyone to draw in my books, so I'm against remarques.

Very interesting way of thinking. Never thought of it that way. This will be my first one but I think if the actual artist did it that was used in the book... I would like it. Thanks for your thoughts!

[George at C-Springs]

I love it when they darw in my books! It's all about the art ... resale value is not a factor for me.

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/Dameron_20_Blaine.jpg
http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/FDNS_Remarque.jpg
http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/IT_Remarque_2_3_Together_small.jpg
http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/Shawshank_Redemption_by_Vincent_Chong_small.jpg
http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/Christine_by_Gerhard_Axmann_1983_German_Edition_sm all.jpghttp://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/IMAG1238.jpghttp://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/IMAG1534.jpghttp://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/IMAG0008.jpg

[bdwyer19]

Great remarques George! Who drew the first one?

[TwistedNadine]

Thanks all. Its disappointing to find out that one of my signed books is questionable, but at least I have 2 books that I am 100% sure on :)

It is disappointing. I feel you're pain - you're not the only one who's been burned on a bad sig. Live and Learn (and get refunded if you can).




Also, the signature on The Mist screenplay looks bad to me.

No way that is King's signature.

Agreed


Are you sure that Blaze signature is good? I don't think it is.

I think that one is ok tho is a little hard to see (small image)

[George at C-Springs]

Great remarques George! Who drew the first one?

That one's by Ned Dameron, #20 in his series of 21 in DT III that he did about two years ago:

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/Traycase_Interior.jpg
http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/Traycase_with_Remarque.jpg
http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/Traycase_1.jpg

[bdwyer19]

Very cool! I had a feeling it was Dameron, but couldn't place the image. Love the case too!

[George at C-Springs]

Case by Dolso, original case artwork by Harrison Ryan!

[DoctorZaius]

I don't want anyone to draw in my books, so I'm against remarques.

How do you feel about dust jackets and artwork in general? Would you rather have a print by Dali or an original? Just wondering. Myself, I will always take the original.

[WeDealInLead]

I'm losing sleep over (but not really) where to put Stephen King Goes to the Movies. I have other non-fiction with trades but this is almost a "special" edition/entry level collectible. I'm not sure if it belongs more with the likes of slipcased Lisey's Story and UTD GE, or with regular trade editions. I'd keep unsigned Joyland if I had it with gift editions because it's not the true first edition.

[carlosdetweiller]

I'm losing sleep over (but not really) where to put Stephen King Goes to the Movies. I have other non-fiction with trades but this is almost a "special" edition/entry level collectible. I'm not sure if it belongs more with the likes of slipcased Lisey's Story and UTD GE, or with regular trade editions. I'd keep unsigned Joyland if I had it with gift editions because it's not the true first edition.

I shelve mine in chronological order with other non-fiction books that have introductions or essays by King. Since there were new short introductions by King to each of the five short stories it seemed to me to be the logical place. I make no distinction between the cost or collectability (sp.?) of the books. I've got paperbacks sitting next to higher end limited editions. I just go by chronological order in the non-fiction section.

[jhanic]

Isn't Stephen King Goes to the Movies basically an anthology/collection?

John

[carlosdetweiller]

Isn't Stephen King Goes to the Movies basically an anthology/collection?

John

Yes. It is. I guess I elected to put in with non-fiction because the introductions were the only new writing. But I guess that is why WeDealInLead posed the question. It might fit in different places in the collections of different collectors.

[WeDealInLead]

Everything in chronological order makes sense but I don't have enough shelf room for that right now. I try to make each bookcase look more or less consistent so I loosely group limited editions, trade editions, anthologies etc. We're planning on selling our apartment and buying a house next summer. I've already claimed a room for the library (mancave).

[jhanic]

Everything in chronological order makes sense but I don't have enough shelf room for that right now. I try to make each bookcase look more or less consistent so I loosely group limited editions, trade editions, anthologies etc. We're planning on selling our apartment and buying a house next summer. I've already claimed a room for the library (mancave).

Don't worry--if your significant other is like my wife, she'll already have other plans for that room! :P

John

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

I don't want anyone to draw in my books, so I'm against remarques.

How do you feel about dust jackets and artwork in general? Would you rather have a print by Dali or an original? Just wondering. Myself, I will always take the original.

Most of the Lettered editions I collect don't have dust jackets.

[at_one]

Anybody have a large resolution image of the front cover of the Grant Wizard and Glass ARC? I did a google image search and a search on this site, and I could only find smaller images.

[Randall Flagg]

How much larger than this do you need?
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/599/wandg.jpg

[biomieg]

Also, I don't think you checked our Manuscripts/Proofs/ARCs Catalog: http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showwiki.php?title=Stephen+King+Manuscripts+Proofs +and+ARCs:Wizard+and+Glass

(unless you think that qualifies as a small image ;))

[at_one]

Thanks guys, I am looking for an image (preferably a scan) that is close to actual size. I know that would be a rather large image for the site, was hoping someone could possibly email it to me.

[webstar1000]

Here is a cool question for the long time guys on here... I was reading another forum when a member mentioned how much a Grant 1st Wizard and Glass used to go for... Are King books generally lower in value now? Higher? Same? I mean I only sell a book (I just want what I paid for it) when I can get another one better.. I am mostly a buyer so this interests me. Thanks!

[divemaster]

Here is a cool question for the long time guys on here... I was reading another forum when a member mentioned how much a Grant 1st Wizard and Glass used to go for... Are King books generally lower in value now? Higher? Same? I mean I only sell a book (I just want what I paid for it) when I can get another one better.. I am mostly a buyer so this interests me. Thanks!

This is an older thread, but certainly a lot of folks have noted a decline from the "bubble" days of King collecting.

http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?589-The-*declining*-Stephen-King-Market

[Merlin1958]

It's kinda weird in that some of the newer editions are doing very well while, the older ones seem to be falling. Just a random observation is all.

[divemaster]

A S/L'd Christine just sold on eBay for $499. Not sure if there was a flaw or if that's just what you can snag these days if you keep your eyes open.

[bdwyer19]

A S/L'd Christine just sold on eBay for $499. Not sure if there was a flaw or if that's just what you can snag these days if you keep your eyes open.

I've been in the market for one for awhile. This copy had two sizable dents in the slipcase.

[webstar1000]

It's kinda weird in that some of the newer editions are doing very well while, the older ones seem to be falling. Just a random observation is all.

You know I seen that too. I look at a S/L of Black House/Desperation/Buick 8/Insomnia... the list goes on... for around $300ish level but try and buy a Dr Sleep for less than $630! Crazy!!!!

[Merlin1958]

It's kinda weird in that some of the newer editions are doing very well while, the older ones seem to be falling. Just a random observation is all.

You know I seen that too. I look at a S/L of Black House/Desperation/Buick 8/Insomnia... the list goes on... for around $300ish level but try and buy a Dr Sleep for less than $630! Crazy!!!!

I know, I paid $500 for my S/L "Black House", which is a gorgeous production. Not saying the others are not, but still....

[at_one]

I have a few other hobbies loosely associated with collecting and I believe "hype" factors in on price at times. I believe SK books are the same way.

[webstar1000]

It's kinda weird in that some of the newer editions are doing very well while, the older ones seem to be falling. Just a random observation is all.

You know I seen that too. I look at a S/L of Black House/Desperation/Buick 8/Insomnia... the list goes on... for around $300ish level but try and buy a Dr Sleep for less than $630! Crazy!!!!

I know, I paid $500 for my S/L "Black House", which is a gorgeous production. Not saying the others are not, but still....

I still have not gotten to see that in person... can't wait to eventually get one:) I must say Desperation (just got it) is a really beautifully done book... Very impressed. Cannot wait to see Black House (one went for $220 on Ebay last week!! I was bidding but lost it at the last hour)

[Merlin1958]

It's kinda weird in that some of the newer editions are doing very well while, the older ones seem to be falling. Just a random observation is all.

You know I seen that too. I look at a S/L of Black House/Desperation/Buick 8/Insomnia... the list goes on... for around $300ish level but try and buy a Dr Sleep for less than $630! Crazy!!!!

I know, I paid $500 for my S/L "Black House", which is a gorgeous production. Not saying the others are not, but still....

I still have not gotten to see that in person... can't wait to eventually get one:) I must say Desperation (just got it) is a really beautifully done book... Very impressed. Cannot wait to see Black House (one went for $220 on Ebay last week!! I was bidding but lost it at the last hour)

I'm a bit biased, I really like the book, "Black House" and I treat it like it was "The Stand S/L". It is a very cool production though. If you can get one for under $300, go for it!!! You will not be disappointed!!

[at_one]

Hey guys, this has been driving me nuts today as I can't find exactly what I am looking for....anybody willing to scan and send me a large resolution image of the Grant Wizard and Glass ARC? On a similar note, I am looking for the inside dimensions of the slipcase for the S/L WnG.

Much thanks in advance!

-Nick

[Randall Flagg]

Hey guys, this has been driving me nuts today as I can't find exactly what I am looking for....anybody willing to scan and send me a large resolution image of the Grant Wizard and Glass ARC? On a similar note, I am looking for the inside dimensions of the slipcase for the S/L WnG.

Much thanks in advance!

-Nick
Have some patience. You've asked for this a couple of times. Unless someone has a scan (and is ready to share), then you hope a member will take the time to do it for you-simply because you have asked. Without having any idea why you want the scan and dimensions, and not knowing you very well, no one is compelled to quickly satisfy your request.

[at_one]

You're right, sorry....patience is definitely not one of my best virtues!!! And just so it's known, I'm working on a making a slipcase for my WnG s/l or trying to see if it's even worth the hassle.

[Merlin1958]

You're right, sorry....patience is definitely not one of my best virtues!!! And just so it's known, I'm working on a making a slipcase for my WnG s/l or trying to see if it's even worth the hassle.

Dolso will do it better!!! Just saying...

[at_one]

No doubt!!! I have been corresponding with Dick regarding the same project...just trying to weigh out price vs quality.

[Randall Flagg]

Hey guys, this has been driving me nuts today as I can't find exactly what I am looking for....anybody willing to scan and send me a large resolution image of the Grant Wizard and Glass ARC? On a similar note, I am looking for the inside dimensions of the slipcase for the S/L WnG.

Much thanks in advance!

-Nick


You're right, sorry....patience is definitely not one of my best virtues!!! And just so it's known, I'm working on a making a slipcase for my WnG s/l or trying to see if it's even worth the hassle.
Fair enough. FWIW, I measure the inside dimensions for the S/L W&G (two volumes) as 9 5/16" x 3 1/16". Your mileage may vary.

[killbourne]

How hard is it to remove dust stains from a s/l salem's lot slipcase.

[stroppygoblin]

Question: The Mist double LP 1984 ZBS Foundation. - How rare is this and what is it currently worth?

[needfulthings]

The notes I have say 500 made 450 sent to radio stations for Halloween. 50 kept for ZSB house use. In Dec 2010 someone was asking $350 on ebay. Don't know if it sold.

[Randall Flagg]

How hard is it to remove dust stains from a s/l salem's lot slipcase.
Dust is easy..."stain" implies more than that.

[stroppygoblin]

The notes I have say 500 made 450 sent to radio stations for Halloween. 50 kept for ZSB house use. In Dec 2010 someone was asking $350 on ebay. Don't know if it sold.

Ok - I just became the owner of one. Before it leaves the US, Is anyone looking to add this to their collection? By pure coincidence I saw it mentioned in Caretakers Collection and remembered it was rare, so I jumped on it.

[herbertwest]

I LOVE the artwork of this item!

that's the one, right?
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/STEPHEN-KINGS-The-Mist-DOUBLE-LP-1984-ZBS-Foundation-Orig-SATIRICAL-SCARY-/00/s/MTM0NVgxNjAw/z/9tYAAOxyjLNSP34G/$T2eC16JHJHMFH!!BZepOBSP34Fg!jg~~60_35.JPG

[stroppygoblin]

I LOVE the artwork of this item!

that's the one, right?
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/STEPHEN-KINGS-The-Mist-DOUBLE-LP-1984-ZBS-Foundation-Orig-SATIRICAL-SCARY-/00/s/MTM0NVgxNjAw/z/9tYAAOxyjLNSP34G/$T2eC16JHJHMFH!!BZepOBSP34Fg!jg~~60_35.JPG

Thats the baby!

So, I have trawled the forums and I can only find 3 others that own this in their collection. Looks like TMSG is soooo last season, all the cool kids are collecting TMLP :coo3l:

[webstar1000]

Hey guys.. there was a gentleman on here who was going to request my number for me for The Shinning S/L as they were sold out and I had to erase my darn messages as I had it full. Could that guy let me know? For the life of me I cannot remember.. thanks! kris

[Merlin1958]

I LOVE the artwork of this item!

that's the one, right?
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/STEPHEN-KINGS-The-Mist-DOUBLE-LP-1984-ZBS-Foundation-Orig-SATIRICAL-SCARY-/00/s/MTM0NVgxNjAw/z/9tYAAOxyjLNSP34G/$T2eC16JHJHMFH!!BZepOBSP34Fg!jg~~60_35.JPG

Thats the baby!

So, I have trawled the forums and I can only find 3 others that own this in their collection. Looks like TMSG is soooo last season, all the cool kids are collecting TMLP :coo3l:

This is a very cool and collectible item, Goblin/Orc-Guy, but TMSG is "LEGENDARY"!!! Am I right folks?

[webstar1000]

What do you all think of the Dark Tower set that David @ Betts posted yesterday?

[Pasiuk57]

pretty interesting....

[carlosdetweiller]

What do you all think of the Dark Tower set that David @ Betts posted yesterday?

PC copies of S/Ls get mixed reviews from members of this forum. I tend to value them higher than a lot of other members but that is a matter of personal opinion. I have always thought that a matching PC set of the DT books was a really cool set. Supposedly there were only 12 or so PC copies of DT1 so there can only be 12 such matching sets at most.

Having said that I must admit to being confused about David's explanation regarding the creation of the 13th PC copy of DT1. I don't understand why Robert would cross out a number and write "Publisher copy" over the top of it. It also varies from other PC copies of DT1 that I have seen in that it does not also have Donald Grant's signature which I think is a really great bonus. To my way of thinking this may not be a "true" PC set if there really is such a thing. Would be interested in other collectors' thoughts.

[Br!an]

What do you all think of the Dark Tower set that David @ Betts posted yesterday?

I think it's expensive.

I'd much rather have the set you bought.

Also he makes it sound as if a PC "WTTKH" gets you access to the next Dark Tower book.

[webstar1000]

What do you all think of the Dark Tower set that David @ Betts posted yesterday?

PC copies of S/Ls get mixed reviews from members of this forum. I tend to value them higher than a lot of other members but that is a matter of personal opinion. I have always thought that a matching PC set of the DT books was a really cool set. Supposedly there were only 12 or so PC copies of DT1 so there can only be 12 such matching sets at most.

Having said that I must admit to being confused about David's explanation regarding the creation of the 13th PC copy of DT1. I don't understand why Robert would cross out a number and write "Publisher copy" over the top of it. It also varies from other PC copies of DT1 that I have seen in that it does not also have Donald Grant's signature which I think is a really great bonus. To my way of thinking this may not be a "true" PC set if there really is such a thing. Would be interested in other collectors' thoughts.

I tend to agree with you and while there are only "5 known sets" in the world... if you had all of say, matching set number #10... would that not be the only possible set in the world where there are one number #10 for each book? I think that would also make it harder to match since a PC copy is not individually distinguished thus making more of them available to "find" if you were looking for a matching set.... interesting to hear some other members thoughts on that set...

[carlosdetweiller]

It just really comes down to personal opinion and collecting goals. While your argument about there being only one possible set of say #10 is valid one could also argue the point that there are 500 possible matching number sets but only 12 possible complete PC sets making the PC set the scarcer.

[webstar1000]

It just really comes down to personal opinion and collecting goals. While your argument about there being only one possible set of say #10 is valid one could also argue the point that there are 500 possible matching number sets but only 12 possible complete PC sets making the PC set the scarcer.

Well said for sure... great discussion so far on this... :)

[Br!an]

It just really comes down to personal opinion and collecting goals. While your argument about there being only one possible set of say #10 is valid one could also argue the point that there are 500 possible matching number sets but only 12 possible complete PC sets making the PC set the scarcer.

That logic doesn't actually work. In this limited edition of 500 copies, there would be one copy that is 10 of 500 and twelve copies that are PC of 500 making the numbered copy more rare.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

The number of PC copies of each volume is not known for sure. We only have unverifiable information on how many exist.

[carlosdetweiller]

It just really comes down to personal opinion and collecting goals. While your argument about there being only one possible set of say #10 is valid one could also argue the point that there are 500 possible matching number sets but only 12 possible complete PC sets making the PC set the scarcer.

That logic doesn't actually work. In this limited edition of 500 copies, there would be one copy that is 10 of 500 and twelve copies that are PC of 500 making the numbered copy more rare.

I guess I'm not making my point very well. Let's say that to complete my collection I need a matching numbered set and a matching PC set. I don't care which number I get. There are 500 possible matching numbered sets that would fulfill my collecting goal of having a matching numbered set. There are many fewer matching PC sets out there.

Yes, if I have my heart set on the number #10 and only the #10 will do then the odds go way down of my finding it but, as stated above, if I don't care which of the 500 possible numbered sets I get then finding a matching numbered set will be easier than finding a matching PC set. Is that clearer?

[carlosdetweiller]

The number of PC copies of each volume is not known for sure. We only have unverifiable information on how many exist.

In one of Lloyd Currey's catalogs from several years ago he offered a PC copy of DT1 and included in his listing a quote from Donald Grant that "about a dozen" PC copies were done. I believe that is the source of the current estimate of 12 copies.

[Lookwhoitis]

what i keep wondering is what number the PC copy originally was. I'd hate to be the poor sap holding out hope for years about completing a same number set, but the last book he is looking for was made into a crossed out PC edition, LOL

I mean how realistic is reuniting a numbered set anyways? A certain number you need might be buried in the black hole of a supercollectors collection or perhaps may reside at the bottom of a garbage dump somewhere. You never know.

I am collecting DT # 171 becasue I bought a LSOE on ebay which made me able to purchase TWttK from Grant. I think it may be hard if not impossible to ever find DT I-VII # 171. But I am going to try!

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

I think it may be hard if not impossible to ever find DT I-VII # 171. But I am going to try!

Excellent! That is what collecting is all about.

[webstar1000]

I think it may be hard if not impossible to ever find DT I-VII # 171. But I am going to try!

Excellent! That is what collecting is all about.

I agree.

[Br!an]

It just really comes down to personal opinion and collecting goals. While your argument about there being only one possible set of say #10 is valid one could also argue the point that there are 500 possible matching number sets but only 12 possible complete PC sets making the PC set the scarcer.

That logic doesn't actually work. In this limited edition of 500 copies, there would be one copy that is 10 of 500 and twelve copies that are PC of 500 making the numbered copy more rare.

I guess I'm not making my point very well. Let's say that to complete my collection I need a matching numbered set and a matching PC set. I don't care which number I get. There are 500 possible matching numbered sets that would fulfill my collecting goal of having a matching numbered set. There are many fewer matching PC sets out there.

Yes, if I have my heart set on the number #10 and only the #10 will do then the odds go way down of my finding it but, as stated above, if I don't care which of the 500 possible numbered sets I get then finding a matching numbered set will be easier than finding a matching PC set. Is that clearer?

I get what you're saying. I just see the premise as fallacious. It is a fair comparison to compare the PC copy to a specific number copy. The book is the same. However the numbered volumes are unique and discrete being individually numbered. The PC volumes are not as there are multiples of them.

By saying you want to collect both any random number set and a PC set you are arbitrarily elevating the status of the PC set and no longer comparing apples to apples. The fact is that it is twelve times (?) easier to collect a PC numbered set than any specific numbered set.

[biomieg]

The fact is that it is twelve times (?) easier to collect a PC numbered set than any specific numbered set.

Yes. But Bob is saying that it's orders of magnitude harder to find a PC set versus a numbered set. He's explicitly talking about an unspecified numbered set. This does not have anything to do with elevating the status of a PC set. I'm sure Bob agrees that it's probably easier to assemble a PC set (assuming that copies show up for sale) than set #10 or set #499 or any other number that is still available. But if one does not care about the number, Bob's reasoning applies.

[Randall Flagg]

The pleasure is in wanting it and obtaining it (them), not beating the odds.

[stroppygoblin]

I'll have both, either, mixed, I don't care

[Br!an]

The fact is that it is twelve times (?) easier to collect a PC numbered set than any specific numbered set.

Yes. But Bob is saying that it's orders of magnitude harder to find a PC set versus a numbered set. He's explicitly talking about an unspecified numbered set. This does not have anything to do with elevating the status of a PC set. I'm sure Bob agrees that it's probably easier to assemble a PC set (assuming that copies show up for sale) than set #10 or set #499 or any other number that is still available. But if one does not care about the number, Bob's reasoning applies.

I understand the argument. I'm just pointing out the fallacy.

[Rahfa]

what i keep wondering is what number the PC copy originally was. I'd hate to be the poor sap holding out hope for years about completing a same number set, but the last book he is looking for was made into a crossed out PC edition, LOL

I mean how realistic is reuniting a numbered set anyways? A certain number you need might be buried in the black hole of a supercollectors collection or perhaps may reside at the bottom of a garbage dump somewhere. You never know.

I am collecting DT # 171 becasue I bought a LSOE on ebay which made me able to purchase TWttK from Grant. I think it may be hard if not impossible to ever find DT I-VII # 171. But I am going to try!

That's funny - I have I, III-VII of #71...I got DT I, then lucked into getting III or IV after that...so it's possible.

I've been looking for DT II #71 for a loooong time, though.

[biomieg]

The fact is that it is twelve times (?) easier to collect a PC numbered set than any specific numbered set.

Yes. But Bob is saying that it's orders of magnitude harder to find a PC set versus a numbered set. He's explicitly talking about an unspecified numbered set. This does not have anything to do with elevating the status of a PC set. I'm sure Bob agrees that it's probably easier to assemble a PC set (assuming that copies show up for sale) than set #10 or set #499 or any other number that is still available. But if one does not care about the number, Bob's reasoning applies.

I understand the argument. I'm just pointing out the fallacy.

I know you understand the argument. Just trying to point out that there is, in fact, no fallacy. Both lines of reasoning are correct and logical within their own set of parameters. The problem arises when one tries to blend the two points of view: you say Bob arbitrarily elevates the status of a PC to a specific numbered copy while in fact Bob has already discarded the concept of a specific number from his reasoning.

[Br!an]

The fact is that it is twelve times (?) easier to collect a PC numbered set than any specific numbered set.

Yes. But Bob is saying that it's orders of magnitude harder to find a PC set versus a numbered set. He's explicitly talking about an unspecified numbered set. This does not have anything to do with elevating the status of a PC set. I'm sure Bob agrees that it's probably easier to assemble a PC set (assuming that copies show up for sale) than set #10 or set #499 or any other number that is still available. But if one does not care about the number, Bob's reasoning applies.

I understand the argument. I'm just pointing out the fallacy.

I know you understand the argument. Just trying to point out that there is, in fact, no fallacy. Both lines of reasoning are correct and logical within their own set of parameters. The problem arises when one tries to blend the two points of view: you say Bob arbitrarily elevates the status of a PC to a specific numbered copy while in fact Bob has already discarded the concept of a specific number from his reasoning.

His reasoning is logical within its parameters. Those parameters create the false premise and thus the fallacy.

The sky is red. If I impose enough parameters - such as pollution, water vapor, the angle of the sun, the time of day, color blindness, rose colored glasses - I can make that a logical and true statement. However it won't make the sky red.

Putting that aside for the moment let's look at the assertion that it is easier to collect a matching numbered set than a PC set since there are more possible numbered sets. That statement while perhaps true in an abstract sense is not true upon application barring unlimited funds. In order to collect the numbered editions one would have to actually purchase them. Which would mean purchasing the discrete number one is attempting to collect. At that point the large group of possible numbered sets is reduced to one. While the number of PC sets remains at twelve.

[jhanic]

I'd like to suggest that this whole fairly interesting discussion be moved into Random Thoughts. It seems to have gotten well away from Collecting Questions.

John

[bdwyer19]

I'd like to suggest that this whole fairly interesting discussion be moved into Random Thoughts. It seems to have gotten well away from Collecting Questions.

John

Agreed. How about you agree to disagree, since you've both made valid arguments.

[biomieg]

As far as I'm concerned we are 'uitgediscussieerd' (as we would say in Dutch ;)). Let's get back to Collecting Questions!

[Lookwhoitis]

Let's get back to Collecting Questions!

So who has any Dark Tower S/L # 171's for me??? :lol:

[at_one]

Not sure if this is exactly the correct spot for this but does anyone know where I can get a copy of this photo?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171194294187?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:VRI&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2661

Not really interested in the sig, just the photo. I have seen several on feeBay, the prices are a little high though.

[NeedfulKings]

Regarding Gunslinger, First Edition dust jackets:

1. Is there still a source (DMG) where one can order a new dust jacket?
2. What would one expect to pay, either from DMG or a third party?

Thankee

[at_one]

If my memory serves me correctly, I bought a 2nd edition dj from Grant 5 or so years ago for $20...pretty sure they are no longer available there.

[NeedfulKings]

If my memory serves me correctly, I bought a 2nd edition dj from Grant 5 or so years ago for $20...pretty sure they are no longer available there.

Ah, maybe it was 2nd Edition DJs I remember seeing. I'd love a good First Edition one, but maybe it's not to be had.

[Randall Flagg]

Regarding Gunslinger, First Edition dust jackets:

1. Is there still a source (DMG) where one can order a new dust jacket?
2. What would one expect to pay, either from DMG or a third party?

Thankee
Grant no longer has 1st or 2nd Gunslinger DJ's for sale.
I have a couple of NF+ 1st DJ's.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Speaking of Grant and things for sale... I bought a shrinkwrapped artist signed TWTTK last week from them for $75.

I thought they would all be sold out.

[Br!an]

Speaking of Grant and things for sale... I bought a shrinkwrapped artist signed TWTTK last week from them for $75.

I thought they would all be sold out.

Wow! You're right. They're still available. They were previously sold out. They must have found some.

[mikeC]

Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows of an accessible link or a list of all of the uncollected short stories Steve has put out since Sunset.
I think that usually when he has a new one someone on here lists the stories that would go in the next collection but I can't find it. If not no big deal I'm just trying to read them all. Thanks.

[Brian James Freeman]

Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows of an accessible link or a list of all of the uncollected short stories Steve has put out since Sunset.
I think that usually when he has a new one someone on here lists the stories that would go in the next collection but I can't find it. If not no big deal I'm just trying to read them all. Thanks.

Check out Bev's list of King's uncollected stories, the most recent are at the end!

http://www.bevvincent.com/links/uncollected-stephen-king-short-stories/

Best,
Brian

[mikeC]

Ah, great thanks Brain and Bev!

[WeDealInLead]

Hmm, I don't know how it happened but the story in Hard Listening slipped under my radar somehow.

[Bev Vincent]

It was a contest -- four writers wrote stories in the style of King and you had to guess which one was really by him -- so my list is a spoiler, of sorts. I did keep the title blank for quite a while but finally decided enough time had passed to enter the full details.

[Ben Mears]

Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows of an accessible link or a list of all of the uncollected short stories Steve has put out since Sunset.
I think that usually when he has a new one someone on here lists the stories that would go in the next collection but I can't find it. If not no big deal I'm just trying to read them all. Thanks.

Check out Bev's list of King's uncollected stories, the most recent are at the end!

http://www.bevvincent.com/links/uncollected-stephen-king-short-stories/

Best,
Brian

I'd buy that uncollected collection. Let's get going Brian!

[Ben Eads]

Has anyone heard of a limited run of Joe Hill's Pop Art with the signature page at the back of the book? Just got it in the mail and was curious. I'm new to the limited short stories, chap books, etc...

Thanks!

[Br!an]

Has anyone heard of a limited run of Joe Hill's Pop Art with the signature page at the back of the book? Just got it in the mail and was curious. I'm new to the limited short stories, chap books, etc...

Thanks!

It's fairly rare. 150 copies. How did you luck into one? They don't show up much.

[Ben Eads]

Thanks, Br!an!

I did just that; I lucked into it. LOL

How much is something like this worth? I've got pics of it on the P&J thread, as well as my collection page.

Again, thanks!

[Br!an]

Thanks, Br!an!

I did just that; I lucked into it. LOL

How much is something like this worth? I've got pics of it on the P&J thread, as well as my collection page.

Again, thanks!

I don't really know. It's worth what the market will bear I suppose. The only one I can find for sale right now is offered for $350 which is too high. It's certainly worth around a couple hundred and like most Joe Hill limiteds should continue to increase in the near future.

[Ben Eads]

Thanks for the info, Br!an!

I'll keep you in mind in case I want to sell it. I'm on the fence at this point. LOL

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Hey Ben

I could be wrong but I think what you have is a PC copy of the Lettered version. I think the limited of 250 is a chapbook, the Lettered in 52 hardcover. Again, I could be wrong. I have letter DD in my collection. I offered it for sale not too long ago for $300 but no takers. I think you have a great find my friend.

Mulleins

[Ben Eads]

Hey Ben

I could be wrong but I think what you have is a PC copy of the Lettered version. I think the limited of 250 is a chapbook, the Lettered in 52 hardcover. Again, I could be wrong. I have letter DD in my collection. I offered it for sale not too long ago for $300 but no takers. I think you have a great find my friend.

Mulleins

Wow! I deeply appreciate the insight, Mulleins!

I have to find out now! LOL

This is my first "prose SNL" and it came as a gift. Hmm... Much research I have to do, yes. <--Yoda speak.

[Ben Eads]

Hey Ben

I could be wrong but I think what you have is a PC copy of the Lettered version. I think the limited of 250 is a chapbook, the Lettered in 52 hardcover. Again, I could be wrong. I have letter DD in my collection. I offered it for sale not too long ago for $300 but no takers. I think you have a great find my friend.

Mulleins

I just checked their site and due to it being a hard cover, it is a lettered edition! WOOT!

What a pleasant surprise, indeed.

http://subterraneanpress.com/store/product_detail/pop_art_preorder

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

How much is something like this worth? I've got pics of it on the P&J thread, as well as my collection page.

Again, thanks!

Betts sold Lettered MM for $225, if that's any help.

[webstar1000]

Hey guys... is there a list out there of S/L King books that are not his but he signed... I know of many but I am sure there are many more I am unaware of. Thanks!

[Br!an]

I just checked their site and due to it being a hard cover, it is a lettered edition! WOOT!

What a pleasant surprise, indeed.


:rock:



Betts sold Lettered MM for $225, if that's any help.

Seems I nailed it. :cool:

[ELazansky]

Hey guys... is there a list out there of S/L King books that are not his but he signed... I know of many but I am sure there are many more I am unaware of. Thanks!

I am sure I left off something, but here is a start - these are either anthologies with King's sig or someone else's book with his sig:

1982 Fear Itself 225
1982 Whispers - 26+350=376
1983 Frankenstein 500 + 26 = 526
1987 The Ideal, Genuine Man-500
1988 Night Visions 5-850
1988 Prime Evil 1,000 (+250 UK, Bantam Press) = 1,250 (Indeterminate # of PC's per SKC)
1989 Book of the Dead 500 + (10-20 PC's, per Mark V. Ziesing)= ≤520
1989 The Killer Inside Me 26 + 350 = 376 (Indeterminate # of PC's per SKC)
1990 Dark Dreamers ( 1990 edition) 450
1991 Complete Masters of Darkness 345
1991 Gauntlet #2 500
1991 Signatures 26 + 400 + 150 = 576
1992 The Sins of the Fathers 400
1993 House Next Door (1993 edition by Olde New York Press) 26 + 125 =151
1995 House Next Door (1995 edition by Bett's Bookstore) 12 PC's + 225 = 237
1996 The Girl Next Door 52 + 500 = 552
1998 Legends 50 + 200 = 250
1998 The Best of Cemetery Dance 52 + 400 = 452
2000 Dystopia 26 (lettered only)
2000 Life in the Cinema 52 + 450 = 502
2003 Borderlands 5 - 52 + 500 = 552
2004 Quietly Now 500+52+552
2005 Great Ghost Stories 52 (lettered only), Indeterminate # of PC's
2005 Transgressions 200 + 26 = 226
2007 Dandelion Wine 50th Anniversary. 100.
2007 Postscripts 10. 200+300=500, Indeterminate # of PC’s
2009 He Is Legend 750 + 52 = 802. Indeterminate # of PC's
2010 Legacies (December 31 stated) 500+52 =552
2011 Fifty-to-One - 50
2011 J.N. Williamson's Illustrated Masques - 52
2011 The Big Book of Necon 150#'d, Indeterminate # of PC's
2011 The Very Best of New Horror- 200*
2013 A Book of Horrors - S/L - 100 (83 for public sale)
2013 The Century's Best Horror Fiction - 52 Lettered - 25 Artist Edition = 77

[WeDealInLead]

It was a contest -- four writers wrote stories in the style of King and you had to guess which one was really by him -- so my list is a spoiler, of sorts. I did keep the title blank for quite a while but finally decided enough time had passed to enter the full details.

Thanks for the information. I'll have to hunt this down.

I'm just happy I'll be getting a first appearance of a short story that won't cost $50+.

[webstar1000]

Hey guys... is there a list out there of S/L King books that are not his but he signed... I know of many but I am sure there are many more I am unaware of. Thanks!

I am sure I left off something, but here is a start - these are either anthologies with King's sig or someone else's book with his sig:

1982 Fear Itself 225
1983 Frankenstein 500 + 26 = 526
1987 The Ideal, Genuine Man-500
1988 Night Visions 5-850
1988 Prime Evil 1,000 (+250 UK, Bantam Press) = 1,250 (Indeterminate # of PC's per SKC)
1989 Book of the Dead 500 + (10-20 PC's, per Mark V. Ziesing)= ≤520
1989 The Killer Inside Me 26 + 350 = 376 (Indeterminate # of PC's per SKC)
1990 Dark Dreamers ( 1990 edition) 450
1991 Complete Masters of Darkness 345
1991 Gauntlet #2 500
1991 Signatures 26 + 400 + 150 = 576
1992 The Sins of the Fathers 400
1993 House Next Door (1993 edition by Olde New York Press) 26 + 125 =151
1995 House Next Door (1995 edition by Bett's Bookstore) 12 PC's + 225 = 237
1996 The Girl Next Door 52 + 500 = 552
1998 Legends 50 + 200 = 250
1998 The Best of Cemetery Dance 52 + 400 = 452
2000 Dystopia 26 (lettered only)
2000 Life in the Cinema 52 + 450 = 502
2004 Quietly Now 500+52+552
2005 Great Ghost Stories 52 (lettered only), Indeterminate # of PC's
2005 Transgressions 200 + 26 = 226
2007 Dandelion Wine 50th Anniversary. 100.
2007 Postscripts 10. 200+300=500, Indeterminate # of PC’s
2009 He Is Legend 750 + 52 = 802. Indeterminate # of PC's
2010 Legacies (December 31 stated) 500+52 =552
2011 Fifty-to-One - 50
2011 J.N. Williamson's Illustrated Masques - 52
2011 The Big Book of Necon 150#'d, Indeterminate # of PC's
2011 The Very Best of New Horror- 200*
2013 A Book of Horrors - S/L - 100 (83 for public sale)
2013 The Century's Best Horror Fiction - 52 Lettered - 25 Artist Edition = 77

HOLY!! Thanks Eric! Cheers mate:)

[divemaster]

Add
Whispers (1982): 350 numbered
Borderlands 5 (2003): 500 numbered

others?

[ELazansky]

Add
Whispers (1982): 350 numbered
Borderlands 5 (2003): 500 numbered

others?

I added those two to my post - can't believe I left them off as I see them on my shelf.

[Ben Eads]

How much is something like this worth? I've got pics of it on the P&J thread, as well as my collection page.

Again, thanks!

Betts sold Lettered MM for $225, if that's any help.

Thanks, Mr. Rabbit Trick! ;)

[Ben Eads]

I just checked their site and due to it being a hard cover, it is a lettered edition! WOOT!

What a pleasant surprise, indeed.


:rock:



Betts sold Lettered MM for $225, if that's any help.

Seems I nailed it. :cool:

Indeed! Thanks!

[Bev Vincent]

It was a contest -- four writers wrote stories in the style of King and you had to guess which one was really by him -- so my list is a spoiler, of sorts. I did keep the title blank for quite a while but finally decided enough time had passed to enter the full details.

Thanks for the information. I'll have to hunt this down.

I'm just happy I'll be getting a first appearance of a short story that won't cost $50+.

It's only available as an eBook.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Add
Whispers (1982): 350 numbered
Borderlands 5 (2003): 500 numbered

others?

Yeah. The Lettered editions of the 2 you mentioned. (The lettered editions are listed in the list above).

[webstar1000]

Question for you guys... Me and a friend are doing a list of the top 10 MUST have or most wanted Stephen King items. Here is our list. Wanted to know what you all think...

10. Salem's Lot - Oversize
9. Carrie (Fine) 1st/1st
8. Six Stories
7. Cycle of the Werewolf S/L
6. New Lieutenant's Rap
5. Stand S/L
4. Any Lettered Edition!
3. The Plant (1,2,3)
2. Firestarter Asbestos
1. Complete PERFECT S/L Dark Tower set


This was a fight last night to complete and it took a full 40 of rum. haha

[at_one]

Question for you guys... Me and a friend are doing a list of the top 10 MUST have or most wanted Stephen King items. Here is our list. Wanted to know what you all think...

10. Salem's Lot - Oversize
9. Carrie (Fine) 1st/1st
8. Six Stories
7. Cycle of the Werewolf S/L
6. New Lieutenant's Rap
5. Stand S/L
4. Any Lettered Edition!
3. The Plant (1,2,3)
2. Firestarter Asbestos
1. Complete PERFECT S/L Dark Tower set


This was a fight last night to complete and it took a full 40 of rum. haha

Personally, I think must have and most wanted could be 2 separate lists.

[ELazansky]

Question for you guys... Me and a friend are doing a list of the top 10 MUST have or most wanted Stephen King items. Here is our list. Wanted to know what you all think...

10. Salem's Lot - Oversize
9. Carrie (Fine) 1st/1st
8. Six Stories
7. Cycle of the Werewolf S/L
6. New Lieutenant's Rap
5. Stand S/L
4. Any Lettered Edition!
3. The Plant (1,2,3)
2. Firestarter Asbestos
1. Complete PERFECT S/L Dark Tower set


This was a fight last night to complete and it took a full 40 of rum. haha

Everyone's "must have" list would be completely different. For example, I have no desire for #1,2, or 4 on your list.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Some on here have them all already!

[stroppygoblin]

Some on here have them all already!

It would be interesting to see THEIR top ten... :)

1. Stephen King locked in their basement ?

[webstar1000]

ok.. maybe nevermind? haha

[at_one]

ok.. maybe nevermind? haha

I would think it might be a good idea for a new thread...."What is your Top 10 Most Wanted?" OR "What is your Top 10 Must Haves?".

[webstar1000]

ok.. maybe nevermind? haha

I would think it might be a good idea for a new thread...."What is your Top 10 Most Wanted?" OR "What is your Top 10 Must Haves?".

agreed:) Kind of a fun one. Always like to hear what is on peoples wish list....

[Ben Eads]

ok.. maybe nevermind? haha

I would think it might be a good idea for a new thread...."What is your Top 10 Most Wanted?" OR "What is your Top 10 Must Haves?".

agreed:) Kind of a fun one. Always like to hear what is on peoples wish list....

I would love to see that as well. ;)

[needfulthings]

[QUOTE=webstar1000;820299]Question for you guys... Me and a friend are doing a list of the top 10 MUST have or most wanted Stephen King items. Here is our list. Wanted to know what you all think...

10. Salem's Lot - Oversize
9. Carrie (Fine) 1st/1st
8. Six Stories
7. Cycle of the Werewolf S/L
6. New Lieutenant's Rap
5. Stand S/L
4. Any Lettered Edition!
3. The Plant (1,2,3)
2. Firestarter Asbestos
1. Complete PERFECT S/L Dark Tower set


10 out of 10

[Ben Eads]

Here's my list.

#1: Lettered edition of IT
#2: Lettered edition of The Shining
#3: SNL of Doctor Sleep
#4: SNL of Black House
#5: Flat signed 1st edition of The Shining
#6: Flat signed 1st edition of Pet Sematary
#7: SNL or lettered of The Regulators
#8: SNL of The Talisman
#9: SNL of Full Dark No Stars
#10: Complete Matching # Set of The Dark Tower

Note that #10 is at #10 because I’ll never be able to afford a set! Or any other items listed! LOL
At least not until next year. ;)

[SkippyD023]

I have a question regarding the 1st/1st of Different Season.

I have two copies that I believe are both 1st/1st but when I took the DJ's off today I noticed that a writing on the spine is different colors on one of them.

One has the title and author in metallic blue with "Viking" in copper and the other has the author and "Viking" in metallic blue with the title in copper.

Has anyone else noticed this. Is one a 1st/1st and the other not? Are these variants of 1st/1st.

Any help would be appreciated.

[ur2ndbiggestfan]

Mine has the title in copper, the other letters in blue, and was bought the day of release (or very close to it). The paperback had four variations so I wonder if the spine of the hardcover also had this variation. Interesting!

[divemaster]

I have a question regarding the 1st/1st of Different Season.

I have two copies that I believe are both 1st/1st but when I took the DJ's off today I noticed that a writing on the spine is different colors on one of them.

One has the title and author in metallic blue with "Viking" in copper and the other has the author and "Viking" in metallic blue with the title in copper.

Has anyone else noticed this. Is one a 1st/1st and the other not? Are these variants of 1st/1st.

Any help would be appreciated.

I don't know the answer to your question, but FWIW I have two copies of the first edition and both are the way I highlighted above.

[carlosdetweiller]

Just checked my copies (seven in all) ranging from review copies to copies signed by King before and shortly after the publication date. All of mine have King's name and Viking in blue with the book title in copper.

[stroppygoblin]

I have a BOMC edition and it has blue for title and author and copper for Viking.

Does your limitation page mention BOMC ?
You may have a book that has had its jacket swapped.

[Highbury]

Check who the printing company was, usually at the bottom of the copyright page.

[webstar1000]

Here's my list.

#1: Lettered edition of IT
#2: Lettered edition of The Shining
#3: SNL of Doctor Sleep
#4: SNL of Black House
#5: Flat signed 1st edition of The Shining
#6: Flat signed 1st edition of Pet Sematary
#7: SNL or lettered of The Regulators
#8: SNL of The Talisman
#9: SNL of Full Dark No Stars
#10: Complete Matching # Set of The Dark Tower

Note that #10 is at #10 because I’ll never be able to afford a set! Or any other items listed! LOL
At least not until next year. ;)

Great list man!

[Fsmdr]

Has anyone received their PS publishing Pet Sematary yet?.

[SkippyD023]

It only says "Printed in the United State of America" no printer given.

I reviewed the copyright page of both books and they are identical, word for word.

[The Library Policeman]

Has anyone received their PS publishing Pet Sematary yet?.

Yeah I got mine the other day.

[stroppygoblin]

Has anyone received their PS publishing Pet Sematary yet?.

Yep - pictures posted in my Collections thread

[Merlin1958]

This should definitely have a seperate thread, but if you don't have a complete 1/1 of all his books, don't get started on S/L and such. JMHO Of course, there are different schools of thought as to what constitutes a 1/1, but I'm just stating that this was the way I went for the most part. Now, I "Upgrade/Augment" my collection. LOL

With the obvious exception as to all his "retired" writings!!! LOL

[needfulthings]

Hey Wild Bill.
What the fuck are the hi9s?

[Merlin1958]

Hey Wild Bill.
What the fuck are the hi9s?


Damn, forgot to check my typing again!!! LOL

[needfulthings]

:shoot: Just answer the question!
O.K. I think I have that base covered.(and talking of covered bases)
Not 1 copy of Faithful :nana: & could care less.

[Fsmdr]

I guess the UK and overseas buyers have gotten their PS Publishing Pet Sematary but not the US people yet?.

[Scoogs]

I guess the UK and overseas buyers have gotten their PS Publishing Pet Sematary but not the US people yet?.

Correct. One of the recent newsletters from PS said they had only just begun shipping them and didn't expect anyone other than some of the UK collectors to have them before Christmas.

[Fsmdr]

I guess the UK and overseas buyers have gotten their PS Publishing Pet Sematary but not the US people yet?.

Correct. One of the recent newsletters from PS said they had only just begun shipping them and didn't expect anyone other than some of the UK collectors to have them before Christmas.

Got it. Thanks Scoogs.

[killbourne]

how much would a 1st/2nd state Salems lot signed in good/good condition be worth????

[killbourne]

how much would a 1st/2nd state Salems lot signed in good/good condition be worth????

anyone have numbers on what a signed 1/1 2nd state dustcover Salem's lot or any of them recently sold at Betts for???

[wizardsrainbow]

how much would a 1st/2nd state Salems lot signed in good/good condition be worth????

anyone have numbers on what a signed 1/1 2nd state dustcover Salem's lot or any of them recently sold at Betts for???

Yes...I sold a flatsigned Salem's with 2nd state DJ...book was Fine- and DJ was virtually perfect for $2700.

[WeDealInLead]

Mine was $750 unsigned I believe. It's on this page: http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?12083-Book-collection-WeDealInLead/page8

I've managed to get it signed in Toronto and King also doodled a little in it. I'm curious in what others think too.

[killbourne]

how much would a 1st/2nd state Salems lot signed in good/good condition be worth????

anyone have numbers on what a signed 1/1 2nd state dustcover Salem's lot or any of them recently sold at Betts for???

Yes...I sold a flatsigned Salem's with 2nd state DJ...book was Fine- and DJ was virtually perfect for $2700.

how much would you estimate one would go if both the book and DJ was good?

[wizardsrainbow]

So....signed 2nd state in Good condition (assuming ranking goes Good, Very Good, Near Fine, Fine)....$1000ish

[killbourne]

So....signed 2nd state in Good condition (assuming ranking goes Good, Very Good, Near Fine, Fine)....$1000ish

Thanks! I appreciate it. I'm trying to work out a deal for a signed Salem's lot and a s/l DT II. If you have further thoughts about what would be a good price for both together in a deal...Ill listen and learn.

[mistercrowley]

What's a fair price for the IT Artwork Portfolio? I'm looking to sell mine but want to get a fair price now that I'm not desperate for money

[DoctorZaius]

What's a fair price for the IT Artwork Portfolio? I'm looking to sell mine but want to get a fair price now that I'm not desperate for money

I have seen a lot of "unsold" ones on eBay in the $300-$400 range, which leads me to believe that something in the mid-$200s is about right.

[wizardsrainbow]

So....signed 2nd state in Good condition (assuming ranking goes Good, Very Good, Near Fine, Fine)....$1000ish

Thanks! I appreciate it. I'm trying to work out a deal for a signed Salem's lot and a s/l DT II. If you have further thoughts about what would be a good price for both together in a deal...Ill listen and learn.

I've sold 2 S/L DT II copies at $1200 recently....surprised the heck out of me...these used to go at $850 about 3 years ago.

[wizardsrainbow]

What's a fair price for the IT Artwork Portfolio? I'm looking to sell mine but want to get a fair price now that I'm not desperate for money

I have seen a lot of "unsold" ones on eBay in the $300-$400 range, which leads me to believe that something in the mid-$200s is about right.

Agreed...about $250 is fair...Mr. Crowley, if you want to sell, contact me at Betts.

[webstar1000]

How come on Stephenking.com they list every limited offered by King but IT is not there?

[Br!an]

How come on Stephenking.com they list every limited offered by King but IT is not there?

They've been waiting for you to notice. :evil:

Probably just an oversight.

[Merlin1958]

How come on Stephenking.com they list every limited offered by King but IT is not there?

Maybe it is b/c it is not an "original" S/L? It's an anniversary edition?

Edit: Nope, "The Shining" is there. Br!an is probably right.

[Br!an]

How come on Stephenking.com they list every limited offered by King but IT is not there?

Maybe it is b/c it is not an "original" S/L? It's an anniversary edition?

Edit: Nope, "The Shining" is there. Br!an is probably right.

That list is less than complete. Joyland isn't there either. I was thinking maybe it's just US limiteds but they list other UK limiteds. ie. The Colorado Kid x3 by PS Publishing.

It's missing a few others too.

[Merlin1958]

How come on Stephenking.com they list every limited offered by King but IT is not there?

Maybe it is b/c it is not an "original" S/L? It's an anniversary edition?

Edit: Nope, "The Shining" is there. Br!an is probably right.

That list is less than complete. Joyland isn't there either. I was thinking maybe it's just US limiteds but they list other UK limiteds. ie. The Colorado Kid x3 by PS Publishing.

It's missing a few others too.

Yeah, like you stated maybe "oversight's" by the staff. Slackers!! LOL LOL

[jhanic]

All this goes to prove the point that for the best information, this IS the place to find it!

John

[Merlin1958]

All this goes to prove the point that for the best information, this IS the place to find it!

John

Hear. hear!!! :thumbsup::thumbsup:

[webstar1000]

Agreed guys. This is the best place for SK info on the planet. Love being a part of it...learn so much every day!!! Does anyone here have a total Limited list? I would love to have one I trust. LOL

[Br!an]

Agreed guys. This is the best place for SK info on the planet. Love being a part of it...learn so much every day!!! Does anyone here have a total Limited list? I would love to have one I trust. LOL

Do you mean besides this one? http://www.thedarktower.org/Stephen-King-Collectibles-Catalog (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/forumdisplay.php?124-Stephen-King-Collectibles-Catalog)

Tomas maintains good lists on 1sts, US limiteds and UK limiteds. http://stephenkingcollector.com (http://stephenkingcollector.com/us_limiteds.html)

[webstar1000]

Agreed guys. This is the best place for SK info on the planet. Love being a part of it...learn so much every day!!! Does anyone here have a total Limited list? I would love to have one I trust. LOL

Do you mean besides this one? http://www.thedarktower.org/Stephen-King-Collectibles-Catalog (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/forumdisplay.php?124-Stephen-King-Collectibles-Catalog)

Tomas maintains good lists on 1sts, US limiteds and UK limiteds. http://stephenkingcollector.com (http://stephenkingcollector.com/us_limiteds.html)

Did not even know that was here! WOW! Thanks:)

[The Library Policeman]

How come on Stephenking.com they list every limited offered by King but IT is not there?

Maybe it is b/c it is not an "original" S/L? It's an anniversary edition?

Edit: Nope, "The Shining" is there. Br!an is probably right.

That list is less than complete. Joyland isn't there either. I was thinking maybe it's just US limiteds but they list other UK limiteds. ie. The Colorado Kid x3 by PS Publishing.

It's missing a few others too.

Yeah, like you stated maybe "oversight's" by the staff. Slackers!! LOL LOL

"Overlook's" surely? :P

[mikeC]

Hi, hope all is well. Just wondering if the DT2 first edition fits in the slipcase for 1/2/3 that Grant was selling with newer edition of DT2 with different artwork?
Thanks for all replies.

[Robert Fulman]

Yes, the books are essentially the same size, and they fit quite nicely:

http://imageshack.us/a/img707/6345/img20130428114417.jpg

[herbertwest]

Hello,
A very quick question : i am VERY disappointed by the limited set of UNDER THE DOME Bluray. It looks really cheap compared to what it was supposed to look like. I am considering returning it (amazon tells me that i have until the end of the month to return it).
I am not sure whether or not i should return it. Another note is that it's zone 1, so no matter what, i cannot watch those blurays (let aside the fact that i dont have any bluray player), but really the main issue is the cheapy look out of it.
Any opinion? :)


@Ari : you have one. What do you think of it?

[needfulthings]

Hello,
A very quick question : i am VERY disappointed by the limited set of UNDER THE DOME Bluray. It looks really cheap compared to what it was supposed to look like. I am considering returning it (amazon tells me that i have until the end of the month to return it).
I am not sure whether or not i should return it. Another note is that it's zone 1, so no matter what, i cannot watch those blurays (let aside the fact that i dont have any bluray player), but really the main issue is the cheapy look out of it.
Any opinion? :)


@Ari : you have one. What do you think of it?

If & when you do buy a Blu-Ray player they do make region free players (even in 3d).

[herbertwest]

I dont plan on doing so very soon... as I dont even have a TV.
It will be more likely that i will buy a new laptop with a bluray player one day, than i buy a TV+bluray player (and have to pay the TV licence as we dont watch it :p )

[herbertwest]

I dont plan on doing so very soon... as I dont even have a TV.
It will be more likely that i will buy a new laptop with a bluray player one day, than i buy a TV+bluray player (and have to pay the TV licence as we dont watch it :p )

[Ben Staad]

I dont plan on doing so very soon... as I dont even have a TV.
It will be more likely that i will buy a new laptop with a bluray player one day, than i buy a TV+bluray player (and have to pay the TV licence as we dont watch it :p )

Off topic and sorry but can you clarify what a TV license is? I'm guessing it is something above and beyond taxes you would pay to purchase the tv?

[needfulthings]

:lol:
http://imageshack.com/a/img853/6986/vnjo.jpg

[Ben Staad]

LOL. Thanks for the clarification. :razz:


:lol:
http://imageshack.com/a/img853/6986/vnjo.jpg

[herbertwest]

I dont plan on doing so very soon... as I dont even have a TV.
It will be more likely that i will buy a new laptop with a bluray player one day, than i buy a TV+bluray player (and have to pay the TV licence as we dont watch it :p )

Off topic and sorry but can you clarify what a TV license is? I'm guessing it is something above and beyond taxes you would pay to purchase the tv?


In France, if you own a TV, you HAVE to pay about $180 for it. It basically goes towards paying 3 channels (2, 3, 5) that are owned by the government and cannot have any advertising during the programs. Or any advertising at all; dont remember, havent watched TV in like.. 7 years.
There are constantly discussions about extending this licence to computer monitors (as you can watch the channels with the internet), and maybe even phones.

It's the same in the UK. I remember that when i was in Scotland, in a student accomodation we recieved numerous "threatening" leaflets and letters from the TV licence organisation. They were threatening people to a HUGE fine (thousands) if they were to find TVs in our rooms. They were also saying that the licence was due to phone with internet access, computer monitors and other shite.
I believe that I was told that there are actual vans going out in the street with some kind of scanners or whatever things in order to hunt fraud. Dunno if this is true or only to scare people to pay for the licence.
(According to the following wikipedia page, it is true)
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_licensing_in_the_United_Kingdom#Licence _fee_enforcement

"Watching TV without a valid licence is a criminal offence. This can lead to prosecution, a court appearance and a fine of up to £1,000 (not including legal costs). The exceptions are in Guernsey where the maximum fine is £2,000 and Jersey it is £500."
>>> http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/detection-and-penalties-top5/

In the UK, I didnt have any TV, but if someone wanted to check in my flat, i would have told them to piss off as this would be trespassing.
Anyway : I am in France where I dont have any TV, and dont want to spend $180 for things that I dont watch nor care.... :)

[Joe315]

I remember that from the UK as well. I thought it was really dumb. Does a projector count as a TV?

[stroppygoblin]

In the UK, the TV license is paid to the British Broadcasting Company (BBC). The revenue created is used to pay for all of the programming and services offered by the BBC. This used to be just 2 channels (BBC1 and BBC2) but has grown considerably in recent years (BBC3, BBC4, CBBC (Childrens TV) as well as numerous radio broadcasting stations. many great shows such as Dr Who and Sherlock are funded by this license.

Unlike other channels in the UK, the BBC does not have ANY advertisements shown during its programming and thus receives no revenue from 3rd party companies. This is by far the best reason to pay the license fee!
Any equipment capable of receiving and showing LIVE broadcasts is covered by and requires this license. This is the official statement:

Part 4 of the Communications Act 2003 makes it an offence to install or use a television receiver to watch or record any television programmes as they're being shown on television without a valid TV Licence. The Act empowers the BBC to make and amend the terms and conditions of a licence. It allows the government to make regulations to exempt or reduce the licence fee for certain persons in certain circumstances. It also makes it an offence for anyone to have any television receiver in their possession or under their control who intends to install or use it in contravention of the main offence (above), or knows, or has reasonable grounds for believing, that another person intends to install or use a television receiver in contravention of the main offence.
The Communications (Television Licensing) Regulations 2004 define what is a 'television set' and who is a 'television dealer'. The regulations also set out the various types of TV Licence, the criteria for obtaining them, the fees payable for them (including the frequency and amount of instalments) and the different concessions available, including concessions for people who are blind or severely sight impaired, people who are over 74 years of age, people who live in residential care and people who run hotels, guesthouses or campsites.

The 'detector vans' as they are known do indeed exist. They are constantly enforcing the legislation by randomly checking whether households are using a TV and if they are registered with a valid TV license.

[stroppygoblin]

duplicate post

[Merlin1958]

That sucks!! You can get basic cable here for $30 per month!!!

[Pasiuk57]

or you can go online and watch anything for free-basically ANY TV series.

[webstar1000]

Guys, is the Dark Tower in Legacies? I do not have a copy and read somewhere there was a story in it... how many S/L
s were made?

[biomieg]

Legacies contains "One for the Road". Maybe you're thinking of the anthology Legends, which contains "The Little Sisters of Eluria"?

[webstar1000]

Legacies contains "One for the Road". Maybe you're thinking of the anthology Legends, which contains "The Little Sisters of Eluria"?

oh... yeah I think your right Biomieg. I could not remember! Thanks. Do you know how many they did of Legends?

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Do you know how many they did of Legends?

50 Lettered and 200 Numbered produced. First place to look is always the catalog...

http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showwiki.php?title=Legends+-+S+L

[stroppygoblin]

That sucks!! You can get basic cable here for $30 per month!!!

$30 per month = $360 per year. UK TV licence (for colour TV) is £145.50 (approx. $237.50). For this you are able to watch all of the BBC channels plus all of the UK terrestrial channels as well which are broadcast Digitally and available to any TV that has a digital tuner (all modern TV's have this and very cheap ($20) boxes are available for older TV's.

There are approx 50+ channels available for free (plus 10 HD channels) or more than 100 if you have equipment that supports FreeSat (and FreeSat HD).

Personally I have Freeview, FreeSat, Virgin Media AND Sky!!

[biomieg]

Do you know how many they did of Legends?

50 Lettered and 200 Numbered produced. First place to look is always the catalog...

http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showwiki.php?title=Legends+-+S+L

Right as rain :) one of the scarcer anthologies, this one. I don't think I've ever seen a lettered copy.

[webstar1000]

Do you know how many they did of Legends?

50 Lettered and 200 Numbered produced. First place to look is always the catalog...

http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showwiki.php?title=Legends+-+S+L

Right as rain :) one of the scarcer anthologies, this one. I don't think I've ever seen a lettered copy.

How much does do they each go for?

[biomieg]

No idea! The numbered edition comes up for sale every now and then (not often) but I haven't kept track of its market value. I've never seen a lettered for sale.

[Stockerlone]

Same in Germany... i must pay every month 17,98 Euro for the advertisement free TV and radio stations.

[webstar1000]

No idea! The numbered edition comes up for sale every now and then (not often) but I haven't kept track of its market value. I've never seen a lettered for sale.

Holy Cow..... I head of a guy paying like $1200 bucks for one (numbered)... wonder why they are so rare...

[biomieg]

Well, a print run of 200 copies is very small, even for a 'limited edition'. Most or all of them are probably secured in collections that aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

[carlosdetweiller]

And there are several collectible authors. Not just King but George R. R. Martin and others. Crosses some genres.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

I've never seen a lettered for sale.

Neither have I. It's been on my wants list for years.

[webstar1000]

I've never seen a lettered for sale.

Neither have I. It's been on my wants list for years.

IS it much nicer?

[needfulthings]

I assume the same book only lettered.
http://imageshack.com/a/img28/1825/wtbb.jpg

[Br!an]

I assume the same book only lettered.
http://imageshack.com/a/img28/1825/wtbb.jpg

I'm no expert on the subject but I agree. They didn't do a special print run just to reserve it for the authors and publisher.

[carlosdetweiller]

The books are identical. Just the numbers or letters written in are different.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/carlosdetweiller/legendslettered_zpsa5e4564f.jpg

[Rahfa]

Well, a print run of 200 copies is very small, even for a 'limited edition'. Most or all of them are probably secured in collections that aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

And yet "Transgressions," from the same publisher is a $450 book (or less)....there are valid reasons for that, but it's still strange, considering the small limitation.

[webstar1000]

This is great. Thanks guys. I have another 2 questions for you. I have heard different opinions on this... is it better or worse to have your books plastic wrapped/shrink wrapped (as some come from publisher like this)?
My second question is... what would be a good deal on Secretary of Dreams matching #? Thanks!

[jhanic]

For your first question, NEVER shrink wrap a book. Chances are very good that you could easily damage it.

No idea on the value of the Secretary of Dreams set. I haven't been following that at all.

John

[stroppygoblin]

For your first question, NEVER shrink wrap a book. Chances are very good that you could easily damage it.

John

You will get differing opinions on this. The general consensus is that you should ALWAYS remove the publishers or 3rd party shrink wrap from a book, mainly to check for publishing damage, creased pages, missing signatures, numbers, etc. Re-applying shrink wrap will not help much in preventing, bumps, knocks or dents and good quality archival bags would probably give better protection against sunlight damage and page yellowing. It is also possible that the shrink wrapping process may accidentally allow moisture or other spores to get trapped with the book, which could ruin it over time.
I'm sure in the right 'clean' environment with archival quality shrink wrap long term and done by professionals, it would be feasible. If you are serious about complete protection for your books, I would recommend consulting an archivist or curator for advice. Your local museum or large library may be able to offer assistance as well.

As always, just my 2c.

[webstar1000]

For your first question, NEVER shrink wrap a book. Chances are very good that you could easily damage it.

John

You will get differing opinions on this. The general consensus is that you should ALWAYS remove the publishers or 3rd party shrink wrap from a book, mainly to check for publishing damage, creased pages, missing signatures, numbers, etc. Re-applying shrink wrap will not help much in preventing, bumps, knocks or dents and good quality archival bags would probably give better protection against sunlight damage and page yellowing. It is also possible that the shrink wrapping process may accidentally allow moisture or other spores to get trapped with the book, which could ruin it over time.
I'm sure in the right 'clean' environment with archival quality shrink wrap long term and done by professionals, it would be feasible. If you are serious about complete protection for your books, I would recommend consulting an archivist or curator for advice. Your local museum or large library may be able to offer assistance as well.

As always, just my 2c.

Thanks... good advice for sure.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

My second question is... what would be a good deal on Secretary of Dreams matching #? Thanks!

Betts last sales of matching numbers...
Secretary of Dreams I + II S/L #61 - $675
Secretary of Dreams I + II S/L #419 - $700
Secretary of Dreams I + II S/L #588 - $640

Remarques in both books:
Secretary of Dreams I + II S/L #69 - $899
Secretary of Dreams I + II S/L #265 - $899

[webstar1000]

My second question is... what would be a good deal on Secretary of Dreams matching #? Thanks!

Betts last sales of matching numbers...
Secretary of Dreams I + II S/L #61 - $675
Secretary of Dreams I + II S/L #419 - $700
Secretary of Dreams I + II S/L #588 - $640

Remarques in both books:
Secretary of Dreams I + II S/L #69 - $899
Secretary of Dreams I + II S/L #265 - $899

That is what I though. Thanks a mil!

[Br!an]

As always, just my 2c.

Wouldn't that be 2p? :orely:

[stroppygoblin]

As always, just my 2c.

Wouldn't that be 2p? :orely:

LOL - well with current conversion, prob about 1p (rounded)!

I work for a US company - I'm bi-currencial :)

[Br!an]

For your first question, NEVER shrink wrap a book. Chances are very good that you could easily damage it.

John

Good advice



You will get differing opinions on this. The general consensus is that you should ALWAYS remove the publishers or 3rd party shrink wrap from a book, mainly to check for publishing damage, creased pages, missing signatures, numbers, etc. Re-applying shrink wrap will not help much in preventing, bumps, knocks or dents and good quality archival bags would probably give better protection against sunlight damage and page yellowing. It is also possible that the shrink wrapping process may accidentally allow moisture or other spores to get trapped with the book, which could ruin it over time.
I'm sure in the right 'clean' environment with archival quality shrink wrap long term and done by professionals, it would be feasible. If you are serious about complete protection for your books, I would recommend consulting an archivist or curator for advice. Your local museum or large library may be able to offer assistance as well.

As always, just my 2c.

More good advice.

You should always remove the shrink wrap and inspect the book when it arrives. There is no logical reason to leave it on if your intent is to keep the book as a collectible. There are many reasons that it should be removed. stroppy named a lot of them. I've seen books with printing errors, missing signatures, wrong editions, mildew, etc..

Forget about shrink wrapping them yourself. I think that putting clean & dry books in archival bags offers the best protection. After that they can be shelved or boxed. The bags allow the books to be accessible while offering protection superior to shrink wrap.

The archival bags come in either polyethylene or Mylar. Mylar is 10x stronger (and more expensive.) 2mil is normal thickness. There is also 4mil available. 2mil polyethylene is a good enough bag for most books.

[Br!an]

I'm bi-currencial :)

I'm glad you're comfortable talking about it. :wtf:

[biomieg]

Just out of curiosity guys (since I never collected signed trades and never will) but I've seen lots of pics on here where someone takes books to a (King) signing event and leaves the DJ on the book while it's being signed. Doesn't the DJ get damaged in the process (transport/handling) sometimes??

[George at C-Springs]

Just out of curiosity guys (since I never collected signed trades and never will) but I've seen lots of pics on here where someone takes books to a (King) signing event and leaves the DJ on the book while it's being signed. Doesn't the DJ get damaged in the process (transport/handling) sometimes??

I was very worried about that when I took my Gunslinger 2nd to the Boulder reading (I won't call it a signing, because he didn't). I kept in the archival bag up until the very last second, but even then I was worried because I basically had to carry it around for a few hours all it takes is one slip or bump. Ya just gotta be careful ... or protect them another way (in a box, a backpack, I even saw cloth grocery bags used), anything to keep them out of hands.

[Roseannebarr]

Just out of curiosity guys (since I never collected signed trades and never will) but I've seen lots of pics on here where someone takes books to a (King) signing event and leaves the DJ on the book while it's being signed. Doesn't the DJ get damaged in the process (transport/handling) sometimes??

I was told by another collector to leave the covers on. especially on more common titles. easier to get a new dust jacket instead of a new book! the old doubleday books, i leave my jackets at home!.

[needfulthings]

I always left the dust jackets at home when I went to a signing.....since IT IS the most value part of a unsigned book.
I worked with someone who read NEW books ALL the time & the first thing he did was take off the dust jacket & throw it away.

[biomieg]

I've always thought that IF I'd go to a signing I'd leave the DJ home as it's the most fragile and important part of the book (in terms of collectibility). Thanks for your input guys, I was just curious.

[needfulthings]

Don't you just LOVE IT when the author or celebrity creases the cover of a paperback before he signs it?:pullhair:

[Br!an]

I was told by another collector to leave the covers on. especially on more common titles. easier to get a new dust jacket instead of a new book! the old doubleday books, i leave my jackets at home!.

That makes some sense. A newer, easily replaceable, protected by a Brodart cover, dustjacket could stay on the book with little worry.

The older, harder to replace, or easily damaged covers should probably stay home.

That said I think the better solution is to remove the dustjacket and cover the book with a Brodart cover and/or keep it in an archival bag.

[needfulthings]

There is NO reason to take any dust jacket to a signing unless that is what you want signed.

[at_one]

There is NO reason to take any dust jacket to a signing unless that is what you want signed.

I feel the same way; not that I have ever been to a signing, but how do you go about protecting the book then?

[tippy4]

Take the mylar cover off the DJ, and out that on the book.

[webstar1000]

Hey has anyone out there touched and felt both the artist signed (oversize) and normal edition of Knowing Darkness? I have the George signed one and think it is great... but if one has that... do they really need the massive one? thanks...

[herbertwest]

I have a question regarding Joe Hill's NOS4A2. The US version (or at least the proof version) seems to be using some kind of recycled paper (i think), and "packets" of sheets have a different lengths.
Is there a specific reason for that?

I am asking because the french publisher reproduced that, and some french fans were put off because of it, thinking, first, that it was a defect...

[Bev Vincent]

It's called "deckle edging"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deckle#Deckle_edge

[herbertwest]

Thanks for the information. But i was more wondering WHY would it be reproduced by the french publisher?
As far as i am remember, it's not related to the story. And it seems odd to me that it would be in the contract.

Maybe this is a cheaper paper?

[Br!an]

Thanks for the information. But i was more wondering WHY would it be reproduced by the french publisher?
As far as i am remember, it's not related to the story. And it seems odd to me that it would be in the contract.

Maybe this is a cheaper paper?

It's just a style. It kind of makes it look old timey.

[Bev Vincent]

Per the article: With the appearance of smooth edges in the 19th century, the deckle edge slowly emerged as a status symbol. Many 19th century presses advertised two versions of the same book with a smooth and a higher priced deckle version, it suggested the book was made with higher quality paper, or more refined methods.

[Dan]

Hey has anyone out there touched and felt both the artist signed (oversize) and normal edition of Knowing Darkness? I have the George signed one and think it is great... but if one has that... do they really need the massive one? thanks...

I have both. The larger one is massive. Hard to believe until you see it. It has a very nice traycase with a separate book that pulls out of it. Well worth the money! The oversized artist signature pages are very nice also.

[webstar1000]

Hey has anyone out there touched and felt both the artist signed (oversize) and normal edition of Knowing Darkness? I have the George signed one and think it is great... but if one has that... do they really need the massive one? thanks...

I have both. The larger one is massive. Hard to believe until you see it. It has a very nice traycase with a separate book that pulls out of it. Well worth the money! The oversized artist signature pages are very nice also.
So you would say get both?

[Dan]

If you go with George's offer to get the S/L with the clear case for $500, then yes. He includes extra copies of the photos and will sign it for you. I am very happy with mine. If I got the artist version first I probably wouldn't get the smaller, but I got it for about $50 so i couldn't pass it up. If you have the smaller the bigger is worth it.

[evilash]

The signed and traycased one is STUNNING! One of the nicest books I have ever seen. I own both but when compared to each other there is no comparison... If I could only have 1 it would be the signed version, as Dan stated the signature sheets are beautiful, the traycase is amazing and the book of over-sized prints is also great. The entire production is a work of art unto itself. It needs to be seen in person to fully appreciate the workmanship.

[webstar1000]

This is great advise guys... thanks!!!!

[herbertwest]

thanks Bev & Bri1an for the replies

[Fsmdr]

The signed and traycased one is STUNNING! One of the nicest books I have ever seen. I own both but when compared to each other there is no comparison... If I could only have 1 it would be the signed version, as Dan stated the signature sheets are beautiful, the traycase is amazing and the book of over-sized prints is also great. The entire production is a work of art unto itself. It needs to be seen in person to fully appreciate the workmanship.

It's interesting that I have not seen a single remarqued edition for sale...like ever.

[Ari_Racing]

I remember reading somewhere that The Mist audiobook had a particular edition that was really difficult to find. I think it was the vinyl from the radio itself. Is this right?

[Papaseraphim]

HI all,

I just purchased an unsigned copy of the hardcover issue of Whispers 17-18. I checked ebay, abebooks as well as isfdb.org and I see no mention of unsigned hardcovers.

Anybody have one or seen one?

Thanks for any info,

Nick

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