Stephen King Collecting Questions

[Shannon]

Let's say you're making a list of Stephen King US First Editions, from start to finish ...

Would you include Nightmares In The Sky? What about the Secretary Of Dreams 1 and 2? What about Creepshow? Would you include Dolan's Cadillac (if so, which edition?), New Lieutenant's Rap, The three Plant volumes? Six Stories? Would the editions only available in Signed/Limited versions be considered First Editions? I don't need to technical like "Well, the London Edition wasthe true world first!" Just ... A list of First Editions ... What do you think?

[biomieg]

They are all 1st editions but not all 1st trade editions (which is what most people think of when they talk about '1st editions'). Does that help?

[Jimimck]

The list of 1st edition as per The Collectors website is what I consider to be 1st Editions. But in saying that, I've added 1st Green Mile hardback, Storm of The Century, & Cycle of the Warewolf to the list of 1st trade editions I want...

Probably doesn't really help with your question sorry...

[Ric]

Let's say you're making a list of Stephen King US First Editions, from start to finish ...

Would you include Nightmares In The Sky? What about the Secretary Of Dreams 1 and 2? What about Creepshow? Would you include Dolan's Cadillac (if so, which edition?), New Lieutenant's Rap, The three Plant volumes? Six Stories? Would the editions only available in Signed/Limited versions be considered First Editions? I don't need to technical like "Well, the London Edition wasthe true world first!" Just ... A list of First Editions ... What do you think?

Everything you've listed can be considered a first edition. For some, they were also the only edition. Once you start talking about trades you have to include the print run as well if you wish to have a true first edition/first printing. Some S/L editions preceded the trade edition to market, some didn't. It takes a little research if you're looking for "true" first editions, but if that doesn't matter then I would consider the S/L edition and the trade edition to be separate "first" editions.

[George at C-Springs]

Don't forget Proofs, ARCs, Galleys, etc. All released prior to "First" editions, and can thus be considered true first editions (yes, yes, I know, semantics ... just saying it to throw a wrench into the discussion).

[Ric]

Don't forget Proofs, ARCs, Galleys, etc. All released prior to "First" editions, and can thus be considered true first editions (yes, yes, I know, semantics ... just saying it to throw a wrench into the discussion).

I do not consider those first editions at all. They are pre-release and often are not the same content as exists in the first editions.

[Stockerlone]

And what is with...Stephen King NOT US World first editions?

ES - IT publisher Edition Phantasia - world first and limited
Der Buick - From A Buick publisher Ullstein - world first

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

And what is with...Stephen King NOT US World first editions?

ES - IT publisher Edition Phantasia - world first and limited
Der Buick - From A Buick publisher Ullstein - world first

They are not in English, so don't count.

[Stockerlone]

And what is with...Stephen King NOT US World first editions?

ES - IT publisher Edition Phantasia - world first and limited
Der Buick - From A Buick publisher Ullstein - world first

They are not in English, so don't count.

:wtf::wtf::wtf:

[WeDealInLead]

I finally bought some King first editions today and the seller sent an invoice for $28 standard mail for 2 books. FUCK THAT! I should've asked for a quote before bidding and that's my fault but I never would've guessed he'd charge $28. I'm having this sent to someone stateside or at least priority.

[Shannon]

"They are not in English, so don't count."

lol very funny.

[Randall Flagg]

"They are not in English, so don't count."

lol very funny.
The comment wasn't in Deutsch, Arabic, Farsi, Espanol etc.:P

[frik]

The comment wasn't in Deutsch

Dutch, Jerome...or maybe you mean German??

sk

[Niels]

I think when he meant Dutch he would have said "Nederlands". (Did he know :D:D?!)

[AKC]

Let's say you're making a list of Stephen King US First Editions, from start to finish ...

Would you include Nightmares In The Sky? What about the Secretary Of Dreams 1 and 2? What about Creepshow? Would you include Dolan's Cadillac (if so, which edition?), New Lieutenant's Rap, The three Plant volumes? Six Stories? Would the editions only available in Signed/Limited versions be considered First Editions? I don't need to technical like "Well, the London Edition wasthe true world first!" Just ... A list of First Editions ... What do you think?



Everything you've listed can be considered a first edition. For some, they were also the only edition. Once you start talking about trades you have to include the print run as well if you wish to have a true first edition/first printing. Some S/L editions preceded the trade edition to market, some didn't. It takes a little research if you're looking for "true" first editions, but if that doesn't matter then I would consider the S/L edition and the trade edition to be separate "first" editions.

I'm with Ric. I have the entire collection of King Trade Editions and all of them are 1st EDITION / 1st PRINT (with the exception of 'Salem's). My S/L's are looked at separately and kept on a different shelf! As for ARC's, I've got a few but I consider those a completely different part of my collection as well!

I guess it simply comes down to collector preference on how they chose to form their collection and what's important.....
:dance:

[olverts]

Just found a "copy of the original typed manuscript that features Mr. King's hand written changes, corrections, and notes to himself"
Is this kind of stuff worthless cause you don´t know how many copies they made or ?
Betts has something similar listed : My Pretty Pony Knopf Whitney 1989 US - Proof photocopy of manuscript - called proof copy Unsigned Fine $750 , is this overpriced ?
Don´t know what to think cause these are "just" copies.

Thanks in advance

[carlosdetweiller]

Just found a "copy of the original typed manuscript that features Mr. King's hand written changes, corrections, and notes to himself"
Is this kind of stuff worthless cause you don´t know how many copies they made or ?
Betts has something similar listed : My Pretty Pony Knopf Whitney 1989 US - Proof photocopy of manuscript - called proof copy Unsigned Fine $750 , is this overpriced ?
Don´t know what to think cause these are "just" copies.

Thanks in advance

I do think the My Pretty Pony "proof photocopy or manuscript" is overpriced at $750. I remember when it was offered on ABE many years ago. I was really into proofs (still am) and inquired about it. Got some photos. IIRC it was just a photocopy of the manuscript and someone had written "proof" at the top. I may be mistaken on this but that is what I think I remember. I also remember being surprised that Chris bought it. Having said that, it is still the only copy of the manuscript that I have seen, so who knows what it is really worth?

Here is a short essay on the present day difficulties and hazards of manuscript collecting. The word processor has really changed things.

http://www.raresf.com/bnews.html#collect

[Rahfa]

Good essay by Levin....other than manuscripts with clear changes from the published draft, or author-handwritten corrections, it seems questionable what manuscripts would be worth collecting.

But, it's not like someone's going to take the time to type and print an entire book....so many would be connected to the book in some way, though not sure how that translates to value or collectability.

I actually have a DT VIII proofreader's copy...and there are errors caught in this draft that do not appear in Grant's published edition...but I'm not sure I'd call it a manuscript, and I would have no idea about value.

[olverts]

Thanks for the info . Interesting reading but i think i pass on this one (it´s bad enough i collect proofs) :)
Here´s the manuscript copy if anyone is interested : http://www.overlookconnection.com/catalog/misery-typed-manuscript-p-2268.html

[Rahfa]

Thanks for the info . Interesting reading but i think i pass on this one (it´s bad enough i collect proofs) :)
Here´s the manuscript copy if anyone is interested : http://www.overlookconnection.com/catalog/misery-typed-manuscript-p-2268.html

If the "handwritten corrections" were sort of numerous, it might be interesting reading, even if it is a copy...basically, you'd be paying $125 for some additional information. But, definitley not any sort of investment, and I'm not sure how insightful these comments would even be.

[cgallagh44]

I just picked up a copy of "The Stephen King Story by George Beahm Deluxe Signed Edition" for $80.00 (original eBay asking price was $150.00)...do you think I paid too much for this item?

Link (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&rt=nc&nma=true&item=200606461661&si=SjiGA8teiWotOgpGeWwJp48Tdqg%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT)

http://usera.imagecave.com/threerings/king/kingstory4.jpg
http://usera.imagecave.com/threerings/king/kingstory1.jpg
http://usera.imagecave.com/threerings/king/kingstory2.jpg
http://usera.imagecave.com/threerings/king/kingstory3.jpg

Thanks for your comments

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

If you are happy with the price you paid, then its worth that.

[ICry4Oy]

My first dumb collectors question: Is it still a "collection" if you don't have any signed/numbered/too expensive for me books?

[cgallagh44]

I think it is...

[ICry4Oy]

That would be nice. A lot of my older King books are from the old Doubleday book club......hangs head in shame...

[Room 217 Caretaker]

That would be nice. A lot of my older King books are from the old Doubleday book club......hangs head in shame...

No No No.....don't hang head in shame. Hold head high. It's a collection.

Until I could find copies of his first five, I had a mix of book club and later prints just to fill the space as I continued to look for 1st. I was always happy to show my collection to anyone that was remotely interested.

I think your collection is very cool.

Mulleins

[Shannon]

Of course it is a "collection", lol. Collect what you want, and what you can afford. Make a goal. Some people have goals with direction such as "I will collect one of each of Stephen King's United States First Editions" ... and other people have other goals ... It depends on what is important to you.

Tip: Don't try to compete with the people that have been collecting for years and years and years with a seemingly infinite amount of moolah in the bank. The people that were around when the rare things were first introduced got first dibs, and they ain't givin' 'em up! Make a goal. :)

[thegreattim]

I agree. Until the last two years my collection was mostly book clubs and I didn't even know it. Still, i was very proud, I had every Stephen King book in hardcover! It was not until recently that I began seeking out first editions, and I still don't have any Doubleday firsts besides Pet Sematary.

So don't be shamed. Be proud for what you have!! I know I am. :D

[Jimimck]

Since I found out about gift editions, S/L's, lettereds, proofs and everything else, I've struggled to stick to a consistant goal re my collecting. Like Tim & Shannon say, you've really got to go with what is important to you. It is hard though when you see these amazing collections, and all the fantastic items you just wish you had.
I originally said to myself I want US 1st's, then I thought Gift editions would be cool, then I bought my first (and so far only) S/L, then I picked up a proof. I'm thinking I need to concentrate on my original goal, but I know I'll always be keeping an eye out for something special within my budget...

[thegreattim]

I originally said to myself I want US 1st's, then I thought Gift editions would be cool, then I bought my first (and so far only) S/L, then I picked up a proof..

Hahaha, that is so exactly what happened to me, except I got my first proof before my one and only S/L.

[Shannon]

lol me too. For me it was a US First, then an S/L, then a remarque, then a foreign book, then a proof, then an audiobook, soon it's original art. The train never stops, and pretty soon you turn into a Shannon and you must have one of everything. :)

[Shannon]

Hey, I'm not sure if this is the correct place to ask ... But I have two PayPal questions ...

Let's see ... firstly ... someone sent me money, not an auction or anything like that, just a "send money" thing. Well, he sent it, I got an email saying I got it ... And when I check my PayPal it says I got it ... but it doesn't show up in my bank account. This has been a few weeks. Am I missing a step here or something? I mailed out the item but maybe he has to click some kind of "I got the package" button before I actually get the money?

And secondly, kind of the same question but from another angle. I have found someone with which I would like to do business with. I didn't find them through Ebay, or this site, or anything official. I can't check feedback or have anyone vouch for their reputation. Is there any way to securely make a transaction with this person? I'd rather not get screwed. I haven't been using PayPal long, which is why I figured I would ask here. Thank you in advance.

Shannon

[thegreattim]

1) You usually have to initiate a disbursement from you PayPal account to your bank. Use the "withdraw" tab under the "Your Account" main page for this.

2) Hook a standard credit card to your PayPal account and use this funding option to make an unknown risk purchase. Credit card companies offer the best customer protection guarantee. If there is any problem, contact them right away and you will be taken care of.

[cgallagh44]

I just picked up a copy of "The Stephen King Story by George Beahm Deluxe Signed Edition" for $80.00 (original eBay asking price was $150.00)...do you think I paid too much for this item?

Link (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&rt=nc&nma=true&item=200606461661&si=SjiGA8teiWotOgpGeWwJp48Tdqg%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT)

http://usera.imagecave.com/threerings/king/kingstory4.jpg
http://usera.imagecave.com/threerings/king/kingstory1.jpg
http://usera.imagecave.com/threerings/king/kingstory2.jpg
http://usera.imagecave.com/threerings/king/kingstory3.jpg

Thanks for your comments

Hi, does anyone else have a copy of this...I was wondering how the quality of this compares with other copies here. I can't seem to locate any information about this deluxe edition on the web. Thanks for your help.

[Rahfa]

Looks good....I've got a couple of the Beahm books and I think they're pretty well done.

Not much info on them, though...I'm not sure they ever had trade printings of any legitimate size.

[Ben Staad]

I would love to have a SK signed S/L in my collection but they all are some damn expensive. Does anyone out there know which one's are usually more affordable these days? I've seen Jack Ketchums Girl Next Door S/L for $100-$250 and Whispers (I think) for around $200-$280. Should I be keeping an eye out for any other titles?

[Fsmdr]

I would love to have a SK signed S/L in my collection but they all are some damn expensive. Does anyone out there know which one's are usually more affordable these days? I've seen Jack Ketchums Girl Next Door S/L for $100-$250 and Whispers (I think) for around $200-$280. Should I be keeping an eye out for any other titles?

What about a S/L A Life In The Cinema?. I'm pretty sure you can get one for about $100. One of the least expensive King S/L, IMO.

Borderlands 5 and Quietly Now S/L are about $150-$200. Postscript 10 and the UK Bag Of Bones S/L are about the same price.

[Jimimck]

Ben,
I had someone on ebay offer me a UK UTD S/L for 125 pounds incl shipping. I thought that was pretty good value. I'm probably gonna say no as I think I need to focus on 1sts for a while and avoid impulse purchases. Happy to send you details if you want?

**EDIT** I feel like a dick, but hopefully you weren't keen on this anyway. I ended up having the funds available for another impulse purchase, so decided to pick this up for myself :blush:

Forgive me?????

[Stockerlone]

I would love to have a SK signed S/L in my collection but they all are some damn expensive. Does anyone out there know which one's are usually more affordable these days? I've seen Jack Ketchums Girl Next Door S/L for $100-$250 and Whispers (I think) for around $200-$280. Should I be keeping an eye out for any other titles?

What about a S/L A Life In The Cinema?. I'm pretty sure you can get one for about $100. One of the least expensive King S/L, IMO.

Borderlands 5 and Quietly Now S/L are about $150-$200. Postscript 10 and the UK Bag Of Bones S/L are about the same price.

+ The Ideal Genuine Man sig lim ... also arround 100-150 $

[biomieg]

I would love to have a SK signed S/L in my collection but they all are some damn expensive. Does anyone out there know which one's are usually more affordable these days? I've seen Jack Ketchums Girl Next Door S/L for $100-$250 and Whispers (I think) for around $200-$280. Should I be keeping an eye out for any other titles?

I sent you a PM!

[Rahfa]

I would love to have a SK signed S/L in my collection but they all are some damn expensive. Does anyone out there know which one's are usually more affordable these days? I've seen Jack Ketchums Girl Next Door S/L for $100-$250 and Whispers (I think) for around $200-$280. Should I be keeping an eye out for any other titles?

I would save your money for one of the big limiteds...not an antholgy or book where he just wrote an introduction.

Desperation and Insomnia are usually pretty reasonable...they're true SK books and have high production values.

[WeDealInLead]

Yeah. I'd never buy a S/L he didn't write or at least contributed a story to. I really like anthologies, especially if they're signed by other heavy hitters. More bang for the buck.

[ICry4Oy]

Thanks for all the answers folks! .....I'll have more stupid questions I am sure.......

[Ben Staad]

Wow. Thanks for all the great feedback. I'm not sure what direction I will take. Maybe I should fight the urge and save up some money for one I really want instead of just going for any old S/L.

P.S. Jimimck-Forgiving....plus UTD is one of my least favorite SK stories.:P

[biomieg]

Anyone else interested in a UK S/L UNDER THE DOME for a good price?

*edit* SALE PENDING

[ICry4Oy]

My next dumb question.....If I buy a less expensive King "first edition" at say, Target, is it any less a "first edition" than one for sale at say, Cemetery Dance? I've done this...

[biomieg]

A first edition is a first edition is a first edition (is my opinion).

[jhanic]

I agree.

John

[Room 217 Caretaker]

If you found a fine 1st edition copy of Carrie at a yard sale and paid $15 for it, are you thinking the value would be lower because you paid less?

Or am I misunderstanding the question?

[divemaster]

My next dumb question.....If I buy a less expensive King "first edition" at say, Target, is it any less a "first edition" than one for sale at say, Cemetery Dance? I've done this...

I don't know about Target, but bookstores will sell overstock as "Remaindered" in the bargain bin. It may still be a first edition, but will have a remainder mark, so check for that if that concerns you.

And check the printing run. Most collectors say "First edition" meaning "first edition, first printing" but some sellers try to hide the weenie on that. FOR SALE: FIRST EDITION (fifth printing).

[ICry4Oy]

I kinda figured there'd be no difference but I get emails saying things along the lines of "an exclusive issue" and then I'll see the exact same thing at Target and it is sometimes half the price. Like the Blockade Billy I got from an online place when I wish I'd waited and just got the Target one.

....I have noticed that 2nd/3rd,etc. printing thing though...

[biomieg]

In the case of BLOCKADE BILLY there may have been a difference. The Cemetery Dance first edition is not the same edition as the Scribner first edition. But generally, if it's really the same book, then it shouldn't matter where you get it.

[cgallagh44]

Did the "Dead Zone-First Edition" from Easton Press come with a slipcase? Also, how can you tell this book is a First Edition?

Thanks

[Ric]

Did the "Dead Zone-First Edition" from Easton Press come with a slipcase? Also, how can you tell this book is a First Edition?

Thanks

No it did not come with a slipcase but "The Collector" ( www.skcollector.com (http://www.skcollector.com)) sells an aftermarket one that is very nice and fits the Easton press edition perfectly.

The first edition has a slightly different spine design regarding the box around the book title and the ornamentation.
http://skcollector.com/limited/deadzone1vs2.html (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showwiki.php?title=Dead+Zone+The+-+Easton+HC+1985)

[cgallagh44]

Thanks Ric for the info and for responding so fast...I appreciate it.

[cgallagh44]

Just bought a first edition of "CuJo"...when I opened the cover I noticed a price written in pencil on the top of the first blank page. I contacted the seller (eBay) and he informed me that it would be difficult to find any used book that has not been priced by a bookseller at some point.

Just trying to get some feedback on this.

Thanks

[biomieg]

I'm sorry but that's bullshit (excusez le mot). I'm not saying there aren't many used books with notes in pencil but this is just a seller who doesn't want to take his responsibilities. I have tons of used trade hardcovers and only a few came with these inscriptions.

*edit* I must say that I'm usually not too upset by light pencil inscriptions, I simply erase them.

[carlosdetweiller]

Just bought a first edition of "CuJo"...when I opened the cover I noticed a price written in pencil on the top of the first blank page. I contacted the seller (eBay) and he informed me that it would be difficult to find any used book that has not been priced by a bookseller at some point.

Just trying to get some feedback on this.

Thanks

Pencil notations are pretty common. It should be easily erasable. If you don't already have one go to an office supply store and buy a non-abrasive gum eraser. Never use any eraser on the end of a pencil. It should erase easily and not damage the paper. If you get a good eraser you can rub pretty hard and do so safely.

[Ric]

Just bought a first edition of "CuJo"...when I opened the cover I noticed a price written in pencil on the top of the first blank page. I contacted the seller (eBay) and he informed me that it would be difficult to find any used book that has not been priced by a bookseller at some point.

Just trying to get some feedback on this.

Thanks

Pencil notations are pretty common. It should be easily erasable. If you don't already have one go to an office supply store and buy a non-abrasive gum eraser. Never use any eraser on the end of a pencil. It should erase easily and not damage the paper. If you get a good eraser you can rub pretty hard and do so safely.

Totally agree with Bob. I've bought my share of books priced by the seller in pencil (one store in NYC is notorious for this). Simply follow Bob's instructions and you should be fine.

[George at C-Springs]

I agree with the above, but that doesn't alleviate the fact that the seller should have informed you of the pencil annotation. If it's a heavy pencil mark that may not come out, I'd say return it and go for the refund. You can always drop him some negative feedback as well if he's just being a dick about it.

[Rahfa]

Pencil notations are not really considered flaws to be identified...if you explicity asked if there were any pencil marks, obviously they should have told you...but by itself, it's not a flaw or something most booksellers will feel obligated to mention (back in the old days, I think most rare bookstores used them). Nor should it affect resale price.

If you were happy with the price, keep it. I would not try to erase it...ANY mistake on your part could create a mark that would look a lot worse than a penciled price.

[cgallagh44]

Thanks to everyone for the great feedback, I really appreciate it...I will definitely look for a gum eraser (non-abrasive).

[Ben Staad]

Quick question. Is the gift edition of "Insomnia" actually numbered?

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Quick question. Is the gift edition of "Insomnia" actually numbered?

No

[Ben Staad]

Quick question. Is the gift edition of "Insomnia" actually numbered?

No

Thanks. There was a seller on Ebay who was selling a copy which he states is #1 of 3,750. I specifically asked if this is actually #1 and he responded with a yes. In hindsight I should have been a bit more specific in my question. I didn't buy the book because I thought it was odd that an unsigned gift edition would be numbered.

[thegreattim]

I've seen that before in other auctions. I think they usually are just trying to say "this is one book from an edition of 3750." Just not so clearly.

[AKC]

Hey TDT junkies. I am in the process of acquiring a S/L #'d Regulators from David and I noticed that he has another one on his website that lists the # as 573. I thought that there were only 500 total #'d Limiteds released for Regulators?! :orely:

Probably just a typo unless somebody out there knows something I don't (which is very likely).....

Tim

[jhanic]

It's probably a typo. There were only 500 numbered copies issued.

John

[Shannon]

Question. Let's say I bought a Gunslinger second edition from someone that really didn't know what they had. I gave a fair price, a little under market value. They described the book and dustjacket to me, all is great. But I received the book today, and the yellow on the spine ... is white.

I had asked for pictures of the front, rear, inside dustjacket price, and "second edition" on the copyright page. I didn't ask one of the spine. Is this my fault, or is it the seller's fault, even though the book itself doesn't LOOK faded (it just looks like the lettering on the spine was supposed to be white)? Thanks.

Shannon

[Patrick]

If the seller were uninformed and the buyer were informed, then it's hard to blame the seller for not mentioning something that only an informed party would recognize.

[Garrell]

I made that mistake today when my Gerald's Game 1st/1st arrived today, replacing my 1st/3rd. Drinking beer, itunes and a quick click. I know what I am looking for and didn't see/ask things I know. My fault, seller gets a positive and I have a cheap reading copy.

[Shannon]

I'm leaning towards it being my fault as well, but I don't know, he mentioned the "dust jacket and book in both fine condition", and they are ... with the exception of this damn white lettering on the spine. Maybe I'll get a highlighter or something and fix it, lol

I think I'm going to bring it up with the seller, I've bought a ton of stuff from him before. The SK Newsletters, a lot of old magazines and anthologies. I'm going to mention it with no feelings either way and see what he would like to do. If he wants to do a refund, great. If he wants to give some of my money back, great. If he doesn't want to do anything, I guess that will be O with me too. I won't push it or seem TOO disappointed. Like ..."UGH! FUCKIN' FINE, MAN! WORST. SELLER. EVER!" lol, it's all good. Now I know ... when buying something over $100 from someone OTHER than David, lol, ask tons of questions and for tons of pictures.

[George at C-Springs]

If the seller were uninformed and the buyer were informed, then it's hard to blame the seller for not mentioning something that only an informed party would recognize.

I'd have to agree. It's one thing to have something arrive blatantly not as described, but Joe Blow selling a book likely isn't going to know about spine sunfading. Even if he does, he may not be familiar with what it looks like on teh particular volume that you're buying. IMO that's just one of the questions that you need to ask as the buyer if it's not mentioned in the description, whether the seller has a 5 feedback or 5000. Sometimes even the photographs lie; depending on the camera skills of the seller, it may look totally different in your hand than it does on the screen.

[Garrell]

Sometimes, if you do your job, you can get what you paid for and more. My Night Shift 1st that I got today was way better than photos showed. S52, non-clipped and all, happy to the point that it would be the last thing in my collection that I would replace. That seller made me smile for a week or two. Point being, the photos weren't great but I knew the minimume (ms) I was getting for my $100 plus book. I saw it was a value, to me, and made the purchase knowing the worst result. I win, in my eyes. 95 % of the time, $100+ book or not, proper research and photos, you should know what is a good value or ask before make a bigger purchase

[CurtSeattle]

How much are the non-clipped ones going for these days? Trying to figure out how much a really good shape clipped one is worth.

[mikeC]

Hello, hope all is well. Can anyone explain what is the easiest way to collect foreign editions?
I bought a couple Japanese versions years ago through amazon.jp but it was sort of tedious and sometimes there are links on this site to ebay listings for FEs but from what I can tell it's not the US ebay.
I would buy them from John but there's no pics on the site, and I am mainly buying them for cover artwork.
Any suggestions would be welcome.
Thanks

[Stockerlone]

Think the easiest way is.... ask foreign country collectors for help...

[Randall Flagg]

Ask Brice. He collects foreign editions.

[olverts]

A US Proof of Four Past Midnight just arrived and it came with a DJ . No price on the DJ so this must be a bookclub dustjacket right ?

http://laddauppbilder.se/?di=2130833483812

[biomieg]

Not necessarily, there are all kinds of proof DJs. Usually the price is missing and sometimes the text as well.

[olverts]

Ok , I don´t have an original DJ to compare with so i don´t know if there´s any difference :(

[jhanic]

I'd say it's a book club dust jacket. I don't see any differences between it and the trade dj except the absence of the price.

John

[olverts]

That´s what i was thinking too , maybe they just put a DJ on the proof to make it look nice :)

[TwistedNadine]

Hi All. Im wondering if anyone has or has seen one of the New Lieutenants Rap envelopes that was handed out at the 25th anniversary along with the NLR?

[biomieg]

I'm pretty sure several members here have one - I'm sure someone will post a pic sooner or later!

[Pasiuk57]

I have one but am at a wedding could post one later.

[TwistedNadine]

That would be excellent, Pasiuk57 - thanks!

[ur2ndbiggestfan]

About that FOUR PAST MIDNIGHT dust jacket. I have the extremely rare book club edition and the jacket looks just like yours.

And of course I'm kidding about it being extremely rare.

[shibus]

http://usera.ImageCave.com/shibus/nlr4.jpg

[TwistedNadine]

Thanks. Also looking to see a pic of the cover of Stories of Suspense 1966? I know there is a picture of the Half Word of Terror posted but Im wondering what the cover of the mag looked like?

[needfulthings]

Hang in there mikeC. When I start posting pictures of my collection I have around 50 Japanese editions of King books. That were sent to me from friends in Japan over the last 20+ years.

[Shannon]

Hello friends, question, what is a good market price for a Stephen King movie press kit in fine condition? I'm talking to someone who has eight of them, but he doesn't know what to sell them for and I don't know what to buy them for. On eBay right now Cat's Eye (14 photos and 20 slides) is going for $70 and Thinner (6 photos and production info) is going for $13 and $20. If titles are required, these are the press kits in question: Dark Half, Cujo, Maximum Overdrive, Misery, Children Of The Corn, Shawshank Redemption, Christine, Firestarter.

Thank you in advance.

Shannon

[herbertwest]

Hello, hope all is well. Can anyone explain what is the easiest way to collect foreign editions?
I bought a couple Japanese versions years ago through amazon.jp but it was sort of tedious and sometimes there are links on this site to ebay listings for FEs but from what I can tell it's not the US ebay.
I would buy them from John but there's no pics on the site, and I am mainly buying them for cover artwork.
Any suggestions would be welcome.
Thanks

Hey MikeC,
i am french, and i have extra copies of 1st french editions, 1st prints for sale. That includes a rare CARRIE, review copy.

Let me know if you might be interested.

[biomieg]

Shannon, I'm not sure if there is an established market value for movie press kits at all. I don't think enough people collect them so I guess whatever you are willing to pay is the right price.

[Shannon]

THANK YOU Micha(weird e)l. :) I appreciate it.

[Patrick]

Shannon, I don't know how to make an umlat either, but you can simply copy and paste his name from his sig. Like so: Michaël

[ICry4Oy]

Shannon, I don't know how to make an umlat either...


Start with eggs!:unsure:

[Patrick]

:doh:


:lol:

[Shannon]

lol.

I like laughing.

[LostAlivE]

I would like to start putting mylar on my books but what kind do you recommend?
I know nothing about doing this and that is why I am asking.
Thank you for your help,
Lost

[east-tennessee]

I would like to start putting mylar on my books but what kind do you recommend?
I know nothing about doing this and that is why I am asking.
Thank you for your help,
Lost

look here.........http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?5813-HOW-TO-Protective-Covers-For-Your-Books

[Merlin1958]

Yeah, I think Brodart is the best as well!!

[Ari_Racing]

Does anyone have a picture of the Bag of Bones promotional bottle?

Thanks!

[Tito_Villa]

How many copies do people think were published of the UK Carrie 1st???

Thanks

[biomieg]

Tom, apparently less than 1000 were printed. I think Alan once said that the early UK 1sts were printed in batches of 500 so that would make it either 500 or 1000.

[Tito_Villa]

Cool thanks Michaël

[Shannon]

Wow, only 1000!? Jesus ...

[jhanic]

According to Hutch, the actual print run was about 600.

John

[biomieg]

Yes, and combined with Alan's information I'd say it's either 500 or 1000 (probably 500). Regardless, I'm glad I own a copy!

[carlosdetweiller]

Thanks. Also looking to see a pic of the cover of Stories of Suspense 1966? I know there is a picture of the Half Word of Terror posted but Im wondering what the cover of the mag looked like?

Here is the cover of STORIES OF SUSPENSE #2 from 1966, published by Marv Wolfman.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/carlosdetweiller/storiesofsuspensecover1.jpg

[carlosdetweiller]

While on the subject, here is the cover of STORIES OF SUSPENSE #1 from 1965. There is no writing by King in this one but there is mention of him on the first inside page with other editorial comments. It says a story by King is coming in the next issue. This may be the first promotional "blurb" for King.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/carlosdetweiller/storsusp1.jpg

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/carlosdetweiller/storsusp1blurb.jpg

[Shannon]

So pretty :)

[TwistedNadine]

Very cool. Thanks!

[sgc1999]

Question for experienced collectors . I am wondereing if $3800 is a good price for a signed set #1-7 trade editions of dark tower books. they are not s/l copies but just trade signed. what do you think?
Simon

[jhanic]

That seems a bit high to me.

John

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Question for experienced collectors . I am wondereing if $3800 is a good price for a signed set #1-7 trade editions of dark tower books. they are not s/l copies but just trade signed. what do you think?
Simon

Actually, the question you ask raises questions:

1. Are all seven signed by King?
2. Are books 5,6, & 7 AE editions but also signed by King?
3. What are the conditions of each book?
4. Are these all first editions? Example; Is Gunslinger a first Grant or is it a Viking release?

Not trying to hammer you with questions but all these must be taken into consideration before an answer can be given. Also, before a true answer can be given I will need to see all the signatures.

Mulleins

[AKC]

Me too. Figure you will pay about $2,500 for DT I - DT IV and $250 each (at Betts) for V-VII.

That'll put you at $3,250 and should be more in line.....

[AKC]

Me too. Figure you will pay about $2,500 for DT I - DT IV and $250 each (at Betts) for V-VII.

That'll put you at $3,250 and should be more in line.....

Yeah, what Mulleins said as well. My estimates are based on Excellent Condition and all 1st/1st signed by SK.

[Rahfa]

If they are the Viking editions, the price is much, much too high...so that's the most important (missing) piece of info.

[TwistedNadine]

I was told that the spotting on the bottom of this Shining 1st 1st is a Remainder Mark. The spotting is on one end and not the other end. Has anyone else seen this before and can confirm this is a type of Remainder Mark?

<img src="http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/Shining_1st_Ed_025.jpg" />
http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/Shining_1st_Ed_025.jpg

[ELazansky]

I was told that the spotting on the bottom of this Shining 1st 1st is a Remainder Mark. The spotting is on one end and not the other end. Has anyone else seen this before and can confirm this is a type of Remainder Mark?

<img src="http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/Shining_1st_Ed_025.jpg" />

That doesn't look like a remainder mark to me. They are usually made with a marker in a single line or a dot.

[TwistedNadine]

Yeah, the single line with a magic marker is the only remainder mark Ive ever seen.

[carlosdetweiller]

It is a remainder mark. They were more commonly done that way years ago. The first volume of SHADOWS with King's story "Nona" shows that type of marking frequently. Your link doesn't work for me so I am just assuming that yours looks like other copies I have seen with the speckling.

[TwistedNadine]

Guess Im still not posting pics correctly. Ill try this one, but the spotting looks like sprinkled brown dirt. And thats too bad if it is a remainder mark. Book is in beautiful condition.

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/thumbs/Shining_1st_Ed_025.jpg

[carlosdetweiller]

Your photo shows up very small when I click on the link.

Here is a photo of a copy in my collection with the remainder speckling. I think they had the books stacked up in piles and just sprayed the lot of them to mark them as remainders. You can see the speckling also on the lower edges of the front and back boards.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/carlosdetweiller/shiningremainderspeckling.jpg

[ELazansky]

I stand corrected. I learn something new every day. Have to keep my eyes open in the future for markings like that...

[Ben Mears]

Your photo shows up very small when I click on the link.

Here is a photo of a copy in my collection with the remainder speckling. I think they had the books stacked up in piles and just sprayed the lot of them to mark them as remainders. You can see the speckling also on the lower edges of the front and back boards.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/carlosdetweiller/shiningremainderspeckling.jpg

Interesting. My binder used speckling on my Second Coming presentation copies as well as on other special binding work they have done for me. Thankfully they spared the boards!

[Randall Flagg]

You may be able to remove the majority of it by lightly sanding the block edge.
I will look around, but somewhere I posted before and after pics of a book that I cleaned up by sanding it.

[Randall Flagg]

Guess Im still not posting pics correctly. Ill try this one, but the spotting looks like sprinkled brown dirt. And thats too bad if it is a remainder mark. Book is in beautiful condition.

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/thumbs/Shining_1st_Ed_025.jpg
Nadine-FYI, if you would have put before the URL, and after the URL, the pic would have shown up.
Check this link out for assistance:
How to: Add info in posts (links, pics, videos, etc.) (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?6133-How-to-Add-info-in-posts-%28links-pics-videos-etc.%29)

[pixiedark76]

Your photo shows up very small when I click on the link.

Here is a photo of a copy in my collection with the remainder speckling. I think they had the books stacked up in piles and just sprayed the lot of them to mark them as remainders. You can see the speckling also on the lower edges of the front and back boards.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/carlosdetweiller/shiningremainderspeckling.jpg


I just makes me so sad :cry: when I see books get treated like this! It also pisses me off! :angry::arg: I know they have a remainder mark so someone does not return a book that is on sale or bargain bin for the cover price, but can't there be another way that doesn't destroy the looks and value of a book? It upsets me the most that booksellers are the ones that do this! I just think a bookseller should know better than to mark up a book!

[Shannon]

What bothers me is when you have a remainder mark and then they go an extra step and put a light scratch in it. I've seen them on audio books a lot, not so much on book books. Can clean up the marker mark, but the scratch remains. :(

[TwistedNadine]

Guess Im still not posting pics correctly. Ill try this one, but the spotting looks like sprinkled brown dirt. And thats too bad if it is a remainder mark. Book is in beautiful condition.

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/thumbs/Shining_1st_Ed_025.jpg
Nadine-FYI, if you would have put before the URL, and after the URL, the pic would have shown up.
Check this link out for assistance:
How to: Add info in posts (links, pics, videos, etc.) (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?6133-How-to-Add-info-in-posts-%28links-pics-videos-etc.%29)


Thanks Randall, John mentioned the same thing, Ill make sure do to that next time

[TwistedNadine]

Your photo shows up very small when I click on the link.

Here is a photo of a copy in my collection with the remainder speckling. I think they had the books stacked up in piles and just sprayed the lot of them to mark them as remainders. You can see the speckling also on the lower edges of the front and back boards.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/carlosdetweiller/shiningremainderspeckling.jpg


I just makes me so sad :cry: when I see books get treated like this! It also pisses me off! :angry::arg: I know they have a remainder mark so someone does not return a book that is on sale or bargain bin for the cover price, but can't there be another way that doesn't destroy the looks and value of a book? It upsets me the most that booksellers are the ones that do this! I just think a bookseller should know better than to mark up a book!

Carlos: Thank you - very good info to know and yes, that speckling is what is on the Shining. In doing a little more research turns out that Doubleday were the culprits. This is apparently the mark they used back in the day. So at least in this case the bookseller was not to blame. But is sad.

[TwistedNadine]

You may be able to remove the majority of it by lightly sanding the block edge.
I will look around, but somewhere I posted before and after pics of a book that I cleaned up by sanding it.

Interested to see those pics and how well it worked. I assume you used very fine sanding paper?

[Randall Flagg]

You may be able to remove the majority of it by lightly sanding the block edge.
I will look around, but somewhere I posted before and after pics of a book that I cleaned up by sanding it.

Interested to see those pics and how well it worked. I assume you used very fine sanding paper?
Everything is here (on the site, thanks to members), you just have to search.:
How To: Clean soiled page edges (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?2156-How-To-Clean-soiled-page-edges)

[TwistedNadine]

Wow what a great tip! Im trying it out tomorrow on a test book. Thanks

[Fsmdr]

I just purchased a copy of Lord John Signatures Deluxe S/L. I noticed there is considerable differences between the regular numbered S/L and the Deluxe S/L, not noted in our King catalog. For example, there is an addition of 4 additional signatures on 4 black pages. The last 2 signatures are even bounded upside down!. There is also an inscription to Stephen King in my copy?. Wondering if this is consistent with the other copies of the Deluxe editions other collector might have.

Photos of the inscription and the other 4 black pages not present in my regular 400 copies S/L:

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/613/001vib.jpg
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/9132/002nfc.jpg
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/4813/003dl.jpg
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3472/004orx.jpg
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/1695/005drj.jpg

[ELazansky]

There was an auction on eBay (I'm not sure if it was the auction you won) where the seller stated "5 pages of signatures by authors and others that were not done at the time of publishing but were collected by the previous owner." I passed on this one since I didn't want signatures that weren't part of the original.

[Randall Flagg]

The original intent of the book was to gather additional signatures, that is why there are numerous blank pages at the back.

[ELazansky]

I did not know that. In that case, I guess it is kinda cool having the extra signatures.

[Fsmdr]

There was an auction on eBay (I'm not sure if it was the auction you won) where the seller stated "5 pages of signatures by authors and others that were not done at the time of publishing but were collected by the previous owner." I passed on this one since I didn't want signatures that weren't part of the original.

Yes, that is the auction. I must have not read the last part of the description. Now to decipher the signatures.....

[Fsmdr]

There was an auction on eBay (I'm not sure if it was the auction you won) where the seller stated "5 pages of signatures by authors and others that were not done at the time of publishing but were collected by the previous owner." I passed on this one since I didn't want signatures that weren't part of the original.

Yes, that is the auction. Lol!. I thought they were part of the S/L. *Slapping my head*. I must have not read the last part of the description. Now to decipher the signatures.....

[Shannon]

Anne Rice, Anne Rice! I win.

[Merlin1958]

Maybe I should start a seperate thread for this, I'll let the Mods decide, but I was curious. With the new Lettered Art & Case that Dolso put out, how do folks feel about how it should be treated? For instance, Should the art scans be cataloged on Tomas' site along with the "Remarque's"? Are they in fact considered a form of "remarque"? or is it just art for "art's sake"?

I was kinda impressed the way Chadbourne did the "Illustrations" it was almost as if he were illustrating the respective stories. As such, would a portfolio of all 26 (27) pieces be something to try to obtain? Obviously you all know I am a friend of Dick's, but I honestly am curious as to how "Collectors" view the case and art. Are they just a "cool" way to house a valuable collectible or are they a "collectible" on their own?

Just curious how you folks feel about these questions and/or any other comments you may have.

:orely::orely:

[Shannon]

All I know is that Letter Z will eventually be called Letter Shannon.

[Ben Staad]

Another member posted this in a different thread:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250844814299&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_646wt_1141

I was thinking of bidding on this however I'm not sure what value there is in a book in this condition. Does anyone out there have any suggestions?

[Merlin1958]

Another member posted this in a different thread:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250844814299&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_646wt_1141

I was thinking of bidding on this however I'm not sure what value there is in a book in this condition. Does anyone out there have any suggestions?

I would not go above a $100, but that's me.

[Ric]

That Night Shift is totaled in my opinion. Not worth $25.

[Shannon]

I think that the seller is a member here, I don't know who ... and if I offend, I'm sorry. But ... I think that book is horrible. Like ... horrible horrible. It's not JUST the dustjacket. It's not JUST the inside of the book. It's not JUST the outside of the book, or the page edges, or the boards, or the gutters, it's everything. If you care anything at all about quality, then don't buy it. If you just want to have the book to read, then go buy a cheap paperback.

[Ben Staad]

I think that the seller is a member here, I don't know who ... and if I offend, I'm sorry. But ... I think that book is horrible. Like ... horrible horrible. It's not JUST the dustjacket. It's not JUST the inside of the book. It's not JUST the outside of the book, or the page edges, or the boards, or the gutters, it's everything. If you care anything at all about quality, then don't buy it. If you just want to have the book to read, then go buy a cheap paperback.

Yeah you might be on to something here. Maybe I just have the "Night Shift Fever" brought on buy an empty case! LOL

P.S. Thanks for the input Merlin.

[biomieg]

My 2 cents: my copy of NIGHT SHIFT is also an ex-library book, in much, much better shape (albeit priceclipped), and I got it for $45 from our fellow member Mulleins. So I'd say $100 for this book is way too much. Now if the DJ was in (much) better shape I would have gladly paid $100 for it so I could marry it to my book.

[Ben Staad]

My 2 cents: my copy of NIGHT SHIFT is also an ex-library book, in much, much better shape (albeit priceclipped), and I got it for $45 from our fellow member Mulleins. So I'd say $100 for this book is way too much. Now if the DJ was in (much) better shape I would have gladly paid $100 for it so I could marry it to my book.

Thanks for your 2 cents Michaël. After a goods nights rest I think I have a dollar figure in mind for this book. It's probably less then what it will sell for so I'm not sure if I will even bid.

[TwistedNadine]

I know this seller. He's not a member here but but lurks. He recently upgraded to a much nicer Night Shift 1st 1st and was going to leave the beat up one on his bookshelf thinking it would never sell for anything and then he saw this Ex Lib sale! No harm in seeing what he can get for his extra copy, IMHO.

http://cgi.ebay.com/STEPHEN-KING-NIGHT-SHIFT-1st-ED-1st-Pr-VG-w-DJ-/110704287328?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item19c67d5e60

[Dolso]

That Night Shift is totaled in my opinion. Not worth $25.

I agree that we'd have to hunt long and hard to find a book like this in a carlosdetwieler or a shibus collection but I'd also have a hard time believing that they had NEVER owned a similar copy. Sure, if you feel comfortable spending $600 - $800 - $1000 for a better copy, then by all means go for it! But if you're trying to put a collection together & don't have that kind of money readily available, then this is the type of book you'd look at.

Seriously? You wouldn't bid on a first Night Shift for $8?? No matter what the condition... I've spent more than that on a paper-back book that I didn't even think I'd enjoy reading! More than that on one glass of wine!! As far as $25 goes (that's TWO glasses of wine), I'd assume that book restorers can do wonders with a book in poor condition..........turning that $25 or $35 book into a "Pride & Joy".

[TwistedNadine]

I agree with Dolso. I think it's an interesting conversation about how personal collecting can be. We all have aspirations to own a collection of FINE first editions but the reality is that there are budget restraints. Personally I will buy an item that's beat up if the inscription is personal and unique, or its something I really want but can't afford in pristine condition, or an item that is virtually impossible to find. Top on my want list is an original Marshroots. Would I settle for a copy that has water stains or a prior owner's name written in ink? If the price is consistent with condition then absolutely. I may never have another opportunity to own one - beat up or not. But for me price, budget and my list of collecting priorities are the driving forces.

[Cook]

Does anybody happen to know the approximate print run for Cemetery Dance's Advance uncorrected proof of Blockade Billy?

[Ric]

Sorry, I disagree.There's a big difference between a book in less than perfect condition and that one. That book is completely totaled and shouldn't be considered anything more than a reading copy. It's very disingenuous to claim that the only two choices are an $800 book or one that's completely trashed. There are plenty of books out there in far better condition than this that do not cost hundreds of dollars. The Night Shift I own is in "less than perfect" condition and I'm very happy with it, but the book listed is simply not worth anything more than a novelty purchase.



That Night Shift is totaled in my opinion. Not worth $25.

I agree that we'd have to hunt long and hard to find a book like this in a carlosdetwieler or a shibus collection but I'd also have a hard time believing that they had NEVER owned a similar copy. Sure, if you feel comfortable spending $600 - $800 - $1000 for a better copy, then by all means go for it! But if you're trying to put a collection together & don't have that kind of money readily available, then this is the type of book you'd look at.

Seriously? You wouldn't bid on a first Night Shift for $8?? No matter what the condition... I've spent more than that on a paper-back book that I didn't even think I'd enjoy reading! More than that on one glass of wine!! As far as $25 goes (that's TWO glasses of wine), I'd assume that book restorers can do wonders with a book in poor condition..........turning that $25 or $35 book into a "Pride & Joy".

[jhanic]

Does anybody happen to know the approximate print run for Cemetery Dance's Advance uncorrected proof of Blockade Billy?

According to Brian Freeman, there were 60 copies of the "regular" ARC, and 16 copies of the white proof.

Regular proof:

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr60/johnhanic/US_Proofs/BlockadeBillyprooffront.jpg

White proof:

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr60/johnhanic/US_Proofs/BlockadeBillywhiteprooffront.jpg

John

[Dolso]

Sorry, I disagree.There's a big difference between a book in less than perfect condition and that one. That book is completely totaled and shouldn't be considered anything more than a reading copy. It's very disingenuous to claim that the only two choices are an $800 book or one that's completely trashed. There are plenty of books out there in far better condition than this that do not cost hundreds of dollars. The Night Shift I own is in "less than perfect" condition and I'm very happy with it, but the book listed is simply not worth anything more than a novelty purchase.



That Night Shift is totaled in my opinion. Not worth $25.

I agree that we'd have to hunt long and hard to find a book like this in a carlosdetwieler or a shibus collection but I'd also have a hard time believing that they had NEVER owned a similar copy. Sure, if you feel comfortable spending $600 - $800 - $1000 for a better copy, then by all means go for it! But if you're trying to put a collection together & don't have that kind of money readily available, then this is the type of book you'd look at.

Seriously? You wouldn't bid on a first Night Shift for $8?? No matter what the condition... I've spent more than that on a paper-back book that I didn't even think I'd enjoy reading! More than that on one glass of wine!! As far as $25 goes (that's TWO glasses of wine), I'd assume that book restorers can do wonders with a book in poor condition..........turning that $25 or $35 book into a "Pride & Joy".

Certainly, I'd agree - if it's your opinion that this book is worth nothing more than a novelty purchase then TO YOU it isn't. That doesn't mean that in someone elses eyes it might not be worth substantially more than what 's being asked for it. And, absolutely there is a huge difference in the books we're talking about (I'm not suggesting that an $8 book and an $800 book are the only options available). What I AM suggesting is that the old saying "one mans trash is another mans treasure" is true and that the value of anything is exactly what someone is willing to pay for it. That means that the value of this particular book might be $7.99 or it might be $107.99 -- there's no telling until the auction is over. For most of us, there is a balancing act during every purchase -- Am I willing to spend XX amount of money to receive this book in XX condition? That balancing act is different for every person.

[Ric]

I would never attempt to tell anyone what something should be worth to them. All I can do is offer my own opinion.

[Ben Staad]

Thanks for all the "spirited" comments on this. I think if I can get the book for a a bargain price I would be happy with it even in this condition. I don't have a 1st of this book and quite frankly I'm not sure when I could afford a nice copy. I don't think anyone with a VG or Fine of this book for sale would be down for a twelve month "layaway" plan. :)

[Cook]

Does anybody happen to know the approximate print run for Cemetery Dance's Advance uncorrected proof of Blockade Billy?

According to Brian Freeman, there were 60 copies of the "regular" ARC, and 16 copies of the white proof.

Regular proof:

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr60/johnhanic/US_Proofs/BlockadeBillyprooffront.jpg

White proof:

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr60/johnhanic/US_Proofs/BlockadeBillywhiteprooffront.jpg

John

Thanks John
I guess that leads to my next question... I'm not much for proofs, but one (Regular Proof) is available.
Any opinions out there as to the value (appears unread)

[needfulthings]

Ben Staad A crappy book will always be a crappy book! If you really must have a 1st of Night Shift Hang in there save your pennies until you can aford a decent copy.Hopefuly you don't smoke but pretend you do and put the price of a pack in a jar every day you will be surprized how soon you can aford the book you want. Besides the seller is asking $8 handling. what bookseller charges handling? AMAZON I don't think hes that big, Looks like padding the sale to me.

[jhanic]

Thanks John
I guess that leads to my next question... I'm not much for proofs but one (Regular Proof) is available.
Any opinions out there as to the value (appears unread)

I wouldn't go more than $250 for one. 60 copies is a fairly limited print run, but BB is not that popular.

John

[Merlin1958]

That Night Shift is totaled in my opinion. Not worth $25.

I agree that we'd have to hunt long and hard to find a book like this in a carlosdetwieler or a shibus collection but I'd also have a hard time believing that they had NEVER owned a similar copy. Sure, if you feel comfortable spending $600 - $800 - $1000 for a better copy, then by all means go for it! But if you're trying to put a collection together & don't have that kind of money readily available, then this is the type of book you'd look at.

Seriously? You wouldn't bid on a first Night Shift for $8?? No matter what the condition... I've spent more than that on a paper-back book that I didn't even think I'd enjoy reading! More than that on one glass of wine!! As far as $25 goes (that's TWO glasses of wine), I'd assume that book restorers can do wonders with a book in poor condition..........turning that $25 or $35 book into a "Pride & Joy".

I agree with you Dick. For the price, why not take a chance? BTW, a fellow member (Rusher) is an absolute wizard at repairing books with some relatively simple tricks and talent. I'm sure there are others that can apply the same talents and techniques to even a book as "totaled" as this one. Bet you could ask Hutch or Shibus as well. Rusher has sure amazed me in the past, plus there are plenty of firm's that "restore" books. At the right price it just may be worth the investment. Remember, there were only what? 12,000 firsts printed?

[Tito_Villa]

Personally i don't think the book is trashed far from it, i would rather have a book in that condition than none at all. Hell for the price it will go for it will mean that you will have a rare book and can then go on to other targets. If you ever come into any money and can upgrade its not as if you have wasted $100's on a poor copy!

If i didn't have to pay postage from the US i would bid on it!

[CRinVA]

Hey I am looking ofr opinions of the pros here; this pic is a bookplate pasted into a VG/VG Skeleton Crew First Edition. Comments on the signature?
It's Worth????

Sorry for the slight glare. Pic taken with my iphone.

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/sk_sig_big.JPG

[Room 217 Caretaker]

All lines are smooth and shows consistency throughout including the date.

Matches my database of an 84 King signature.

REAL

I think that is the first 84 bookplate I've seen. Interesting.

Mulleins

[Tito_Villa]

But what sort of value do bookplates add to the books, i'm not sure i like the idea of stuff being stuck to a book, even if it hold a King sig

[CRinVA]

Thanks Ralph -

Tito - for sure not my priority to have a book with a bookplate added, but for the price I am happy with the purchase. The book is in as good or better condition than my current 1st Edition Skeleton Crew and it appears to have a valid signature and I paid $35 for it. I'm happy with the purchase!

[Ric]

The sig on the bookplate is legit. I've never been a fan of bookplates either. That's mostly why I do not care to collect the UK limited editions.

[Tito_Villa]

Thanks Ralph -

Tito - for sure not my priority to have a book with a bookplate added, but for the price I am happy with the purchase. The book is in as good or better condition than my current 1st Edition Skeleton Crew and it appears to have a valid signature and I paid $35 for it. I'm happy with the purchase!

For $35, that seems to be a great price!

[CRinVA]

I appreciate teh opinions. For teh record I just took swapped the dust jackets and am very happy to have this new 1st Ed Skeleton Crew stacked among my 1st Edition Collection - which is missing one book at this point!

The elusive Salem's Lot! I just can't part with the kind of cash it takes to obtain one so I continue to search for that "unbelieveable deal" and can be patient. One day i will get one. I used to think that I'd never have a First Carrie or Night Shift or Gunslinger, but over the last couple of years I have managed to obtain them all at steals - other than The Gunslinger, which I did get for a good price but still expensive to say the least!

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Watch out. It may be a photocopy!

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Watch out. It may be a photocopy!

As good as copiers are today, a lot of truth in that statement.

The sig is legit, but was it done by King or Xerox? :unsure:

[CRinVA]

Probably never know - but it looks real. I'd think that someone with a very good copier would not waste their efforts on small dollar items. The auction was listed with statemetn that they could not verify the sig. Doesnt really matter as I am not trying to resell and I didn not put that much into it in the first place.

[Jimimck]

Hi guys. Hoping for some help/advice.
I have a seller with a 1st copy Gunslinger, that for some reason has the title page/copyright page removed. (I know, don't get me started)

The justjacket seems to be in very good condition. I have some average quality photos of it, and it appears to have maroon cover boards indicating it is (was) a 1st edition. I've been told the page was carefully cut out as opposed to torn or fallen out due to poor spine. (maybe had a name on it someone wanted to remove). I've also confirmed that the dust jacket has both prices on it.

I'm assuming this defect basically means no value in the book? But the dust jacket may hold some value?

The pics below show the only described damage to the justjacket:
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f257/jimimck/gunslinger6.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f257/jimimck/gunslinger7.jpg

Any thoughts on what this may be worth?
Thanks

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Hi guys. Hoping for some help/advice.
I have a seller with a 1st copy Gunslinger, that for some reason has the title page/copyright page removed. (I know, don't get me started)

The justjacket seems to be in very good condition. I have some average quality photos of it, and it appears to have maroon cover boards indicating it is (was) a 1st edition. I've been told the page was carefully cut out as opposed to torn or fallen out due to poor spine. (maybe had a name on it someone wanted to remove). I've also confirmed that the dust jacket has both prices on it.

I'm assuming this defect basically means no value in the book? But the dust jacket may hold some value?

Any thoughts on what this may be worth?
Thanks

The spine is sunfaded. The title should be yellow. Don't buy it.

[Shannon]

Yes, what he said. :)

[Jimimck]

Thanks guys, I hadn't noticed that.

[herbertwest]

(hey, does anyone here have AMERICAN VAMPIRE 2 - hardcover? I have a few questions)

[Ari_Racing]

I have it. No King article or mention in it.

[pixiedark76]

(hey, does anyone here have AMERICAN VAMPIRE 2 - hardcover? I have a few questions)

I do. What are your questions?

[herbertwest]

ok, ta.

[Robert Fulman]

Speaking of faded spines, are books in slipcases meant to sit with the book spine in towards the back of the bookcase and with the slipcase spine facing out? I suppose that makes sense from a protection perspective, but I don't think I like how it looks.

[biomieg]

Many slipcases have a nice-looking spine, I have most of them with the slipcase spine towards the light like you describe.

*edit: like John and Tom, I prefer the book spine to be visible but I'm taking no chances until my collection moves to a room with less chance of UV damage.

[Tito_Villa]

Speaking of faded spines, are books in slipcases meant to sit with the book spine in towards the back of the bookcase and with the slipcase spine facing out? I suppose that makes sense from a protection perspective, but I don't think I like how it looks.

I think its completely up to preference, i personally prefer having the spine of the book facing out :)

[jhanic]

I'd say it's a matter of personal preference. I put my slipcased books with the spines of the books facing out.

John

[George at C-Springs]

Mine are out as well, but my book room is basically a cave so not much chance of UV damage here. I will keep it in mind when setting up the next house though, something I hadn't really considered in the past.

[biomieg]

Ideally, my future book room/library will have no natural light source at all. Something like a large walk-in closet. I like Ralph Mulleins' setup but I would prefer to have room to sit and read (and do cartwheels).

[jhanic]

I should have added that there is no source of natural light in my book room.

John

[Ric]

Speaking of faded spines, are books in slipcases meant to sit with the book spine in towards the back of the bookcase and with the slipcase spine facing out? I suppose that makes sense from a protection perspective, but I don't think I like how it looks.

This is how I shelve all my slipcased books, especially if the title is embossed on or otherwise printed on the spine of the slipcase. I do have a large natural light window in my reading room. I much prefer reading by sunlight over incandescent light; don't even get me started about trying to read under fluorescent light! :pullhair:

[Jimimck]

I've actually got some slipcased books facing either way. Hadn't actually thought about it and so I can only assume I picked what I liked the most - the book spine or the slipcase spine to face outward.

Question: is it direct sunslight that causes all damage? or is it possible over time for ambient sunlight in the room to also cause fading? My book case is out of any direct sunlight, but is still in a room that gets some morning sun. Wondering if i need to do anything to protect the books...

[Patrick]

Reflective sunlight can also fade things, albeit more slowly than direct sunlight.

I am thinking about having my bookcase windows tinted (by a professional) at some point, with something along the lines of this:

"These films also reject up to 99.9% of damaging UV rays to reduce fading of your furnishings." (http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Window_Film/Solutions/Markets-Products/Residential/Sun_Control_Window_Films/Prestige_Series/)

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Any UV light will damage colors, starting with the red spectrum.

[stevohump]

Hi all,
I looked around for this topic but could not find it. So, i thought i would ask. When it comes to S/L edition or just Gift editions, how much difference does removing the original shrink wrap really make to the edition. I want to maintain the value of the book, but i definitely want to be able to enjoy it. I welcome all opinions. Thanks

[Garrell]

An easy way to avoid the sunlight issue is to tint the windows in the room that the collection is in with a uv protection film. In the case of my Alabama Crimson Tide signatures, the case that they are in is also uv protected. Sorry SK, but they are my first love, and some of the sigs can't be gotten anymore. They went to the clearing in the path.

[Patrick]

Welcome stevohump!

Shrinkwrap is a personal choice.

Personally I would not pay a penny extra because someone left a book in shrinkwrap.

[Patrick]

Reflective sunlight can also fade things, albeit more slowly than direct sunlight.

I am thinking about having my bookcase windows tinted (by a professional) at some point, with something along the lines of this:

"These films also reject up to 99.9% of damaging UV rays to reduce fading of your furnishings." (http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Window_Film/Solutions/Markets-Products/Residential/Sun_Control_Window_Films/Prestige_Series/)


An easy way to avoid the sunlight issue is to tint the windows that the collection is in with a uv protection film.

Great minds think alike. :D

[oy-the-brave]

Hi all,
I looked around for this topic but could not find it. So, i thought i would ask. When it comes to S/L edition or just Gift editions, how much difference does removing the original shrink wrap really make to the edition. I want to maintain the value of the book, but i definitely want to be able to enjoy it. I welcome all opinions. Thanks

Shrinkwrap should add no value really as you can go to any office supply/copy center and for .75 cents they will shrink wrap almost anything, there really is no way to know that it is the original shrinkwrap.

We see auctions all the time for shrinkwrapped items that were not originally shrinkwrapped.

[stevohump]

One more quick question to tack on the last one. For me ( i think most would agree) one of the best parts about getting a new book is deciding how to display it on my shelf. I was wanting some tips on bookshelf decorum and properly displaying them. For instances I have a "My Pretty Pony" turned on its side because it would not fit any other way. Is this OK. This may seem real novice or newbyish but i want to make sure I'm doing as much stuff right as I can. Thanks everybody

[Patrick]

One more quick question to tack on the last one. For me ( i think most would agree) one of the best parts about getting a new book is deciding how to display it on my shelf. I was wanting some tips on bookshelf decorum and properly displaying them. For instances I have a "My Pretty Pony" turned on its side because it would not fit any other way. Is this OK. This may seem real novice or newbyish but i want to make sure I'm doing as much stuff right as I can. Thanks everybody
For ideas about how to display books, I'd recommend checking out:

a. the Bookcases (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?6425-Bookcases) thread

b. the How to display oversized books (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?10469-How-to-display-oversized-books-My-Pretty-Pony-SOD-Knowing-Darkness) thread

c. people's Collections threads in that subforum.

[needfulthings]

Shrinkwrap can also hide a multitude of sins. Missing pages,bound upside down, blank pages, ect.

[Shannon]

Always remove shrinkwrap!

[biomieg]

Stephen, there's no right or wrong way of collecting and displaying. Just go for what you like best. If you're looking for inspiration, check out the threads from Patrick's post.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Hi all,
I looked around for this topic but could not find it. So, i thought i would ask. When it comes to S/L edition or just Gift editions, how much difference does removing the original shrink wrap really make to the edition. I want to maintain the value of the book, but i definitely want to be able to enjoy it. I welcome all opinions. Thanks

Several members here have found faults in their books when removing shrinkwrap. Pages folded, pages missing or wrongly bound, or numbered incorrectly. They are usually replaced by the publisher.

I always remove the shrinkwrap to check all is okay. I would hate to have a S/L that had faults, and I could not return it, because it was years after the release.

[divemaster]

To me, you can't fully enjoy your book if it is still in shrinkwrap. Opening the book, turning a few pages, feeling the quality of the paper, looking at the signatures, seeing that number penned on the limitation page (your very own number!), seeing the words "First Edition" or "special limited edition" or whatever--isn't that a major part of the collecting experience? And what if your book has special artwork (ala the Grant Dark Tower editions)? If all you want are shrinkwrapped books on a shelf, hell, those could be any ol' books and you'd hardly know the difference b/c you can't even open them!

[divemaster]

Oh, and I have had to return a book to Cemetery Dance becasue about 8 pages were missing. So there you go--proof positive of what some others have mentioned.

[TwistedNadine]

I seem to remember reading that the shrink wrap can damage the book over a long period of time. In fact I thought I read it in one of the threads here on TDT. If the shrink wrap is not acid free it can cause damage, no?

[George at C-Springs]

Here's a link to my best example of what you might not find if you don't open that shrinkwrap:

www.stephenkingcollector.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=506&start=0&bookmark=1&hash=260740b5

It's also posted here in the forums somewhere, but damned if I can find it. Open that shrinkwrap!!!

[pixiedark76]

I have a couple of Dark Tower Graphic novels in shirk wrap. The Long Road Home had all those special editions. I only opened the regular trade release. I thought that keeping the special releases in shrink wrap would increase the value. A book in shrink wrap would be worth more (or more collectible) than one that wasn't.

I have found that over a period of time the shrink wrap stats to tear anyway. I keep the graphic novels in a short box and the shrink wrap still gets messed up.

[pixiedark76]

To prevent sun fading, you could buy thermal insulated curtains. Plus insulated window blinds. (This is what I do)

[sublimicals]

I hope this is the right thread to post this in.

I am looking for a Gunslinger Dustjacket for the GRANT
1984 2nd printing

If anyone can lead me to one at a good price I would be grateful

[Shannon]

King Books/Item Wanted (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?966-King-Books-Items-Wanted)

[TwistedNadine]

I found this on my shelf today. It was next to a 1st DJ with the usual white title and I noticed this one had a dark gold title. When I looked closer I discovered there is no text on the inside flaps and no ISBN. The book is a first trade, first printing. I may have bought this but really dont remember and I dont know what it is. Is this a dj design that wasnt used as the final or is it a book club dj maybe?

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/Dark_Half_DJ_002.jpg

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/Dark_Half_DJ_005.jpg

[Shannon]

Very interesting. :)

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Is this a dj design that wasnt used as the final or is it a book club dj maybe?

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/Dark_Half_DJ_002.jpg


I tend to call these proof DJs. They are usually sent out with the uncorrected paperback proofs.

Several of the members on here collect these, but I've not seen a Dark Half one before.

[biomieg]

Me neither and yes, it is what I'd call a proof DJ (I learned that here). I have proof DJs of EYES OF THE DRAGON, ROSE MADDER, DESPERATION and THE REGULATORS. Not to be confused with the variant DJs with text on the inner flaps.

[olverts]

I found this on my shelf today. It was next to a 1st DJ with the usual white title and I noticed this one had a dark gold title. When I looked closer I discovered there is no text on the inside flaps and no ISBN. The book is a first trade, first printing. I may have bought this but really dont remember and I dont know what it is. Is this a dj design that wasnt used as the final or is it a book club dj maybe?

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/Dark_Half_DJ_002.jpg

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/Dark_Half_DJ_005.jpg

I have that one also :)
I think the design on the proof DJ looks better than the regular

[TwistedNadine]

Interesting. Now that I know what it is Im interested in finding a few more. Wish I knew where I got this one from. I also like this design better than the other one, Olverts.

[olverts]

I would like to find some more too ! Got mine from abebooks , havent found any other proof DJ´s so far .
I think there was a discussion a while back about proof DJ´s ,

[jhanic]

Here's a proof dust jacket for the UK Lisey's Story (it's VERY scarce):

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr60/johnhanic/UKLiseysStoryunusedcover-1.jpg

The one for the UK On Writing:

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr60/johnhanic/UKOnWritingunusedproofcover.jpg

And one of the ones for the US Rose Madder:

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr60/johnhanic/US_Proofs/RoseMadderproofDJ.jpg

I like to pick these up when I get a chance, but they are not my major focus. I have a number of others, but those don't vary too much from the regular issue. For example, I have proof dust jackets for both the black and white UK Black House, but the only difference is that the price is shown as £0.00.

John

[TwistedNadine]

I really like those. Especially the Liseys Story

[pixiedark76]

From what I have learned on this thread I have decided to remove the shirk wrap from my graphic novels.

[Patrick]

I really like those. Especially the Liseys Story

Yeah, that Lisey's Story cover is cool.

[TwistedNadine]

Opinions from the Experts:

What date do you think this is (1982 or 1983)? Its from a Tales From the Nightside

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/Sig_1983.jpg

[jhanic]

I'd say 1982.

John

[Ric]

And I'd say 83. King loops his 2's and I don't see that here. However I can see where the 3 could have been written hastily.

[carlosdetweiller]

I think 83.

[Ricky]

I would say 83 as well.

[TwistedNadine]

Thanks - looks like 1983 wins.

In another thread there was a question as to the difference between the NLR final copy and the proof. I finally got an answer back:

"The proof copies were exactly that, copies that were used in the process of producing the books. They may have very subtle flaws,-- slightly uneven printing or binding hole flaws -- that no one except for myself would notice."

[Patrick]

I thought '83 as well. :)

[Jimimck]

Yeah - I thought 83 too.

(hmmm I wonder if anyone will realise I have no idea but just like to be a part of something lol)

[Patrick]

:lol: Nice.

[TwistedNadine]

Is Salems Lot with a code of Q41 a 3rd printing? What are the points of the DJ for this edition? Is it unclipped 7.95 with Cody corrected to Callahan?

[Bev Vincent]

We don't know exactly *what* printing it is, but we believe we know *when* it was printed.

[Randall Flagg]

Is Salems Lot with a code of Q41 a 3rd printing? What are the points of the DJ for this edition? Is it unclipped 7.95 with Cody corrected to Callahan?
The book was VERY likely printed the 41st week of 1975. It would not be IMO considered a 1st printing.
Check out the
Doubleday gutter code theory (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?2139-Doubleday-gutter-code-theory) thread.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Is Salems Lot with a code of Q41 a 3rd printing? What are the points of the DJ for this edition? Is it unclipped 7.95 with Cody corrected to Callahan?

I don't know for sure, but a Q41 would probably be priced around $9.95 or $10.95.

[biomieg]

Q41 was printed 4 weeks after Q37 (1st/1st edition) if Jerome's gutter code theory is correct (and I assume it is). I would expect these books to have a 3d state DJ but then again, my own Q41 copy came with a 2nd state DJ.

[Randall Flagg]

Regardless of the DJ, the book itself isn't a 1st printing.

[biomieg]

True. That's why I found myself a Q37 book to go with the DJ.

[Bev Vincent]

I don't know for sure, but a Q41 would probably be priced around $9.95 or $10.95.

I doubt they would have raised the price that much (if at all) just a month or so after the original publication.

[carlosdetweiller]

I don't know for sure, but a Q41 would probably be priced around $9.95 or $10.95.

I doubt they would have raised the price that much (if at all) just a month or so after the original publication.

Yes, especially since they went to so much trouble to lower the initial price from $8.95 to $7.95.

[Merlin1958]

I don't know for sure, but a Q41 would probably be priced around $9.95 or $10.95.

I doubt they would have raised the price that much (if at all) just a month or so after the original publication.

Yes, especially since they went to so much trouble to lower the initial price from $8.95 to $7.95.

Wouldn't "Q41" be more indicative of a BCE or export edition with another DJ?

[Randall Flagg]

I don't know for sure, but a Q41 would probably be priced around $9.95 or $10.95.

I doubt they would have raised the price that much (if at all) just a month or so after the original publication.

Yes, especially since they went to so much trouble to lower the initial price from $8.95 to $7.95.

Wouldn't "Q41" be more indicative of a BCE or export edition with another DJ?
No.

[TwistedNadine]

Q41 was printed 4 weeks after Q37 (1st/1st edition) if Jerome's gutter code theory is correct (and I assume it is). I would expect these books to have a 3d state DJ but then again, my own Q41 copy came with a 2nd state DJ.

Interesting. The book in question is the inscribed Block assoc I posted earlier. Has the q41 code with a 2nd state dj - as did yours until you married it with a 1st. And like you I would expect this sightly later printing to have a 3rd state dj. My interest is whether or not I have the original dj that was presented to bloch or if the seller swapped out djs.

The gutter code theory is quite good and seems to fit. Too bad Doubleday cant confirm it

[biomieg]

My guess is that the 2nd printing was already done while Doubleday was still in the middle of transitioning from 2nd state to 3d state DJs. It's a period of only four weeks. So that's why there are both 1st printings with 3d state DJs and 2nd printings with 2nd state DJs (and the expected 2nd printings with 3d state DJs, I assume, but collectors never look for these). This may also explain why 1st printings with 3d state DJs are actually less common than you would expect (at least that's how it seems to me. I hardly ever see one for sale).

[carlosdetweiller]

My guess is that the 2nd printing was already done while Doubleday was still in the middle of transitioning from 2nd state to 3d state DJs. It's a period of only four weeks. So that's why there are both 1st printings with 3d state DJs and 2nd printings with 2nd state DJs (and the expected 2nd printings with 3d state DJs, I assume, but collectors never look for these). This may also explain why 1st printings with 3d state DJs are actually less common than you would expect (at least that's how it seems to me. I hardly ever see one for sale).

You are correct. I've posted these before but here are some internal Doubleday memos that indicate lots was happening even before the book's official publication date.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/carlosdetweiller/salemsinternal2-2.jpg

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/carlosdetweiller/salemsinternal1-2.jpg

And speaking of 'SALEM'S LOT, wouldn't you like to have a time machine and travel back to 1975 and attend this signing?

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/carlosdetweiller/salemssigning-1.jpg

[Ben Mears]

My guess is that the 2nd printing was already done while Doubleday was still in the middle of transitioning from 2nd state to 3d state DJs. It's a period of only four weeks. So that's why there are both 1st printings with 3d state DJs and 2nd printings with 2nd state DJs (and the expected 2nd printings with 3d state DJs, I assume, but collectors never look for these). This may also explain why 1st printings with 3d state DJs are actually less common than you would expect (at least that's how it seems to me. I hardly ever see one for sale).

You are correct. I've posted these before but here are some internal Doubleday memos that indicate lots was happening even before the book's official publication date.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/carlosdetweiller/salemsinternal2-2.jpg

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/carlosdetweiller/salemsinternal1-2.jpg

And speaking of 'SALEM'S LOT, wouldn't you like to have a time machine and travel back to 1975 and attend this signing?

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/carlosdetweiller/salemssigning-1.jpg

Cool stuff, Bob. What book is the signing picture from?

[carlosdetweiller]

Cool stuff, Bob. What book is the signing picture from?

One of George Beahm's early books. SK Companion, maybe.