Stephen King Collecting Questions

[wizardsrainbow]

THanks for the input everyone. Yes, these are for consignment, meaning I am just the middleman. I act as the marketing piece for which I take a % of the sale price of the book. These books hopefully will be priced TO SELL. I have has consignees want to list prices that are way too high...it's like they have missed the last 4 years in the King market. I will list them at their inflated prices, but I do not hope to sell them.

[wizardsrainbow]

New Question....

Somewhere in the Corner we discussed the unnumbered, misbound copies of the S/L Gunslinger. Can someone point me to where that was, or recap the story. I have someone that wants to know how this mistake came to be, how many are out there etc. Thanks

[turtlex]

David - I found these responses (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?p=121044&).

Starts at about post 139 of this thread. I believe Eric asked the question and then Hutch answered. :D

[wizardsrainbow]

David - I found these responses (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?p=121044&).

Starts at about post 139 of this thread. I believe Eric asked the question and then Hutch answered. :D

THANKS!

[Randall Flagg]

Thanks Pam. That was quick.

[turtlex]

David - You're very welcome. I think that's what you were looking for.

RF - I just happened to be rereading a couple of things and remembered it was here, is all. :D

[divemaster]

Unless I missed something, the link is to a problem with the "regular" print run of 10,000, not with the S/L print run of 500. The linked story is interesting but I do think there was an additional problem with the S/L, even to the extent of copies with no number (just a blank line) being circulated. And some of those with a non-sanctioned number added after-the-fact.

[at_one]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360182788583&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

does the number on SoS look more like a 3 made into a 2? I have been looking at these books for a while, but now I am a little worried....do s/l editions get corrected from the publisher like this?

[Room 217 Caretaker]

:orely:

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/668/SOS.PNG

I see what you mean......strange.

Now see it blown up......sure looks like a 3 in there.

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/668/medium/SOS21.jpg

[Rahfa]

Weird...but whoever was numbering them probably wrote the same number twice and then did correct it.

I bet Karen will know!

[Randall Flagg]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360182788583&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

does the number on SoS look more like a 3 made into a 2? I have been looking at these books for a while, but now I am a little worried....do s/l editions get corrected from the publisher like this?
Unless there is strong evidence otherwise, I'd say it is poor penmanship. Seems unlikely someone would have 2 copies of #1252 (DTV and DTVII) and obtain then change a third copy (DTVI) from #1253 to #1252.

[artan]

:scared:

I don't know what to say about it...but yes it's look wired

[at_one]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360182788583&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

does the number on SoS look more like a 3 made into a 2? I have been looking at these books for a while, but now I am a little worried....do s/l editions get corrected from the publisher like this?
Unless there is strong evidence otherwise, I'd say it is poor penmanship. Seems unlikely someone would have 2 copies of #1252 (DTV and DTVII) and obtain then change a third copy (DTVI) from #1253 to #1252.

I agree, I just have never seen this and was curious why the number would be changed...

[Randall Flagg]

There are quite a few examples of 'weird' penmanship and numberings out there. This example seems fine to me-if one doesn't like it.. don't buy it. Better to sleep well at night than buy something you will always question. It looks fine. Buy or don't, but IMHO, the numbering of this one is legit.

EDIT:

I don't believe the number has been changed!!

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Now go back to post #2229 and look at a blown up picture of it.

:orely:

[Rahfa]

Yes, it's a rewritten number. I'm saying that the person hand-numbering each book (I don't think it's Robert; not his handwriting) wrote "1252" on one book, grabbed the next book and wrote "1252" again...then they just handwrote over it for a quick fix.

I agree with the comment before, that it makes no sense that someone would have V and VII with the same number, but not VI.

Does it matter? Not sure, but if it bugs you, def. don't bid and hope you're okay with it later.

[super sam]

Is there any differences on the covers of the S/L and the regular audio ed.
of Drawing of the three from NAL.
I know the price $125 is on the S/L ed., but is that price also on the regular ed.?

[Randall Flagg]

The price(s) on the regular edition of DOTT audio are U.S. $34.95, Canadian $45.00
The Gunslinger was priced at U.S. $29.95, Canadian $39.95

[Nerak]

Weird...but whoever was numbering them probably wrote the same number twice and then did correct it.

I bet Karen will know!

The same person bought SOS and DT directly from us. Probably just bad numbering..

[jhanic]

Karen, just curious--who does the numbering of these?

John

[super sam]

The price(s) on the regular edition of DOTT audio are U.S. $34.95, Canadian $45.00
The Gunslinger was priced at U.S. $29.95, Canadian $39.95

Thanks Randall!

Another question:
Was the regular and/or the S/L DT audio versions from NAL released in shrinkwrap?

[Randall Flagg]

The price(s) on the regular edition of DOTT audio are U.S. $34.95, Canadian $45.00
The Gunslinger was priced at U.S. $29.95, Canadian $39.95

Thanks Randall!

Another question:
Was the regular and/or the S/L DT audio versions from NAL released in shrinkwrap?

Yes. Both were. If not, the cardboard cassette containers would have slipped right out.

[Matt]

I have someone on the SKMB wanting to donate a first edition of Firestarter to the fund raiser. I linked him to the page in the collectors catalog to verify it was a first. Here was his comment back.


On the back cover, I don't have an ISBN# like the image you linked, just 03992 horizontal on the lower left back jacket.

Everything else on the website is exact.

Any idea if this is a true first?

[Rahfa]

I don't believe that's a first edition...at least not a 1st d/j.

[Matt]

Hmmmm...may need to have him send me some images? That could probably help.

[wizardsrainbow]

I know Carrie gutter codes were discussed sometime and somewhere, but here is a question:

Customer has an early Carrie with a V8 gutter code. Does anyone here know what V8 might correspond to time wise (date wise?)? Thanks

[biomieg]

According to Jerome's Doubleday gutter code theory P6 (Carrie 1st) would be week 6 in 1974, so V8 should correspond to week 8 in 1980.

[biomieg]

I have a question about the Plume trade PB of The Waste Lands. There are two cover variants (see pic below, which I borrowed from Frik/Siep's collection thread). I own the one on the left and my copy has a full number line. Was the 1st edition 1st printing issued with these two covers simultaneously (like the UTD white- and grey-lettered DJs) or is the one on the right a later printing?

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/7590/stephenkingdtforumdeel3g.jpg

If the one on the right is a true cover variant, I'd like to get it. But I've only seen it a couple of times on eBay as a reprint, with a slightly different cover. Does anyone here have one for sale?

[ur2ndbiggestfan]

They were both released at the same time. There is a picture at THE COLLECTOR'S site with my display stand of these books. A blurb on the stand states "Your Choice of Covers!"

[biomieg]

Yes, I forgot about that display! Thank you :) I want the train cover variant but it seems quite scarce...

[ur2ndbiggestfan]

Yeah, even back then I was buying two of everything, but I have 3 nebulas and only one train. I never found a second train cover.

[JohnT]

Hello all. Before I go any further I must confess that I've registered at this website for a purely selfish purpose. I am a comic, pulp, and sci-fi collector and I have stumbled on something in my collection that I want to know more about.

I was looking through a batch of old Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction digests and I noticed that my October 1978 issue had a story by Stephen King titled "The Gunslinger." I knew enough about the Dark Tower series to remember that this is the title of the first volume. A quick search of the web leads me to believe that this digest is the first publication of the series.

So, I'd like to ask the community a) is it true tha this is the first published installment of DT, b) am I right to assume that this is a fairly important collectors item, and c) does anyone know how I can get a valuation on this book?

I also have at least two other installments of Gunslinger in later FSF issues.

Any information is greatly appreciated!

John

[jhanic]

a) Yes, it's the first publication of the story The Gunslinger
b) Yes, it's fairly important.
c) The going rate for the issues of F&SF containing the Dark Tower stories is about $10-$15 for each issue, granting that each issue is in fine condition. A mailing sticker on the front of the magazine may tend to lower the value a little.

Welcome to the site!

John

[Patrick]

John H. answered your questions, so I'll just add: Welcome to TDT.com, John T.

[JohnT]

Thanks for the welcomes and info, John and Patrick. That's less than I expected for first publications, but you can't argue with the market! I think I'll hang on to them if that's all they go for. They're in VF shape and not too far out of my collecting interests.

[Matt]

That's the best reason in the world to keep them John, because you like them.

[Randall Flagg]

We'll go ahead and merge this into the Collecting Questions thread. Thanks to all who helped.

[wizardsrainbow]

According to Jerome's Doubleday gutter code theory P6 (Carrie 1st) would be week 6 in 1974, so V8 should correspond to week 8 in 1980.

Thanks!

[Nerak]

I have a question about the Plume trade PB of The Waste Lands. There are two cover variants (see pic below, which I borrowed from Frik/Siep's collection thread). I own the one on the left and my copy has a full number line. Was the 1st edition 1st printing issued with these two covers simultaneously (like the UTD white- and grey-lettered DJs) or is the one on the right a later printing?

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/7590/stephenkingdtforumdeel3g.jpg

If the one on the right is a true cover variant, I'd like to get it. But I've only seen it a couple of times on eBay as a reprint, with a slightly different cover. Does anyone here have one for sale?

I have the train cover, but my is beat beyond words! LOL My reading copy and it's been read quite a few times! I am sorry to say.

If I had only known....

[Ari_Racing]

Here you have a lot that has it for sale:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Lot-of-The-Dark-Tower-Series-by-Stephen-King_W0QQitemZ220543534048QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Fi ction_Books?hash=item33596b43e0

[Eric719691]

I have a question about the Plume trade PB of The Waste Lands. There are two cover variants (see pic below, which I borrowed from Frik/Siep's collection thread). I own the one on the left and my copy has a full number line. Was the 1st edition 1st printing issued with these two covers simultaneously (like the UTD white- and grey-lettered DJs) or is the one on the right a later printing?

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/7590/stephenkingdtforumdeel3g.jpg

If the one on the right is a true cover variant, I'd like to get it. But I've only seen it a couple of times on eBay as a reprint, with a slightly different cover. Does anyone here have one for sale?

I have the train cover, but my is beat beyond words! LOL My reading copy and it's been read quite a few times! I am sorry to say.

If I had only known....

I was able to pick up the one on the right yesterday for a few dollars at a used book store. Had never noticed it till this came up.

[Foulkesy44]

Last year I managed to get my hands on all five copies of the Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction where the Gunslinger in its original format was first published in seperate parts back in the 70's / 80's.

There all in pretty good condition too, but I was just wondering if anybody had any clue as the value of these as I don't really have any idea!? I can't seem to find many of them sold online.

[Ari_Racing]

Without the slipcase I'd say between $40 and $60. I have 4 of the 5 magazines and never paid more than 12 dls for one (and two of them costed me 5 dls with S/H included)

[jhanic]

Check out the last few questions in the Collecting Questions thread in this forum.

John

[mae]

Speaking of the original Gunslinger novellas in MF&SF, I know they were slightly revised for the inclusion in the first volume. What was changed, exactly? Has anyone checked specifically? I'm really curious.

[JohnT]

Here's the first Gunslinger. Kind of a goofy cover!

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff222/jftetzloff/Comics%20for%20sale/FSFOct78.jpg

[lophophoras]

That is a pretty decent copy.

[biomieg]

Hi guys, I have a rather random collecting question: does anyone happen to have the FULL list of Chris Cavalier's 'supercollection' as it was listed on the Bett's Books website? There is still a lot on the website obviously but everything that was sold is long gone from the list... and those are the items I'm curious about :)

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

I've got the original list. PM your email.

[Randall Flagg]

Here is the original archived web page. I don't think it (the list) is 100% complete.
http://web.archive.org/web/20040403224252/bettsbooks.com/w95020ai.html#girl

Mr. Rabbit Trick is probably your best bet.

[biomieg]

Thanks guys!

PM sent.

*edit* is there also a list of the Fried collection? That was even longer before 'my time' but it was mentioned on the archived web page provided by Jerome. The stuff of legends....

[carlosdetweiller]

Here is the original archived web page. I don't think it (the list) is 100% complete.
http://web.archive.org/web/20040403224252/bettsbooks.com/w95020ai.html#girl

Mr. Rabbit Trick is probably your best bet.

That link is to to Marc Brenner's collection. A nice one to be sure but that isn't the Chris Cavalier collection. Chris started selling his in 2006.

[Randall Flagg]

Oops.
Is this a better list?
http://web.archive.org/web/20070213124558/www.bettsbooks.com/w95020ah.html

[carlosdetweiller]

Oops.
Is this a better list?
http://web.archive.org/web/20070213124558/www.bettsbooks.com/w95020ah.html

Yes. That is the right one.

[ChristineB]

OK, so I jumped on a copy of Wizard and Glass without noticing it didn't have the DJ with it (I'm not completely convinced the listing stated this) but that was my fault.

Now, I would like any suggestions you guys might have as to how to get my hands on a Dj for this. Could I contant Grant and get one maybe? if so who would I try to get ahold of?

[wizardsrainbow]

OK, so I jumped on a copy of Wizard and Glass without noticing it didn't have the DJ with it (I'm not completely convinced the listing stated this) but that was my fault.

Now, I would like any suggestions you guys might have as to how to get my hands on a Dj for this. Could I contant Grant and get one maybe? if so who would I try to get ahold of?

Either call Karen at Grant Books (Nerak on this site) or I have a brand spankin' new one that I'd sell to you for $15.

[Nerak]

We have trade editions jackets for $20 plus $7 for shipping

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Oops.
Is this a better list?
http://web.archive.org/web/20070213124558/www.bettsbooks.com/w95020ah.html

Better, but there is a lot missing.

[carlosdetweiller]

Oops.
Is this a better list?
http://web.archive.org/web/20070213124558/www.bettsbooks.com/w95020ah.html

Better, but there is a lot missing.

I bought quite a bit from Chris before he turned it over to Betts. All of that stuff has never been put online.

[Randall Flagg]

Oops.
Is this a better list?
http://web.archive.org/web/20070213124558/www.bettsbooks.com/w95020ah.html

Better, but there is a lot missing.
Just a link to the archived webpage.
<--------------------Knows Mr. Rabbit Trick has a more complete list.:thumbsup:

[Sam]

Out of curiosity, what would a reply letter from King to a regular fan be worth? I have no idea of dates or anything like that, but I would like to give a friend an idea of what one may be worth if in good condition.

[mae]

Speaking of the original Gunslinger novellas in MF&SF, I know they were slightly revised for the inclusion in the first volume. What was changed, exactly? Has anyone checked specifically? I'm really curious.

Answering my own question, but I found this cool document:

https://scholarworks.iupui.edu/bitstream/handle/1805/2031/Thesis--FINAL%20FORMATTED.pdf

It's a master thesis by a certain Mrs. Kent of the University of Indiana, dealing with a textual analysis of the three versions of The Gunslinger (the 1978-1981 magazine version, the original 1982 edition, and 2004 revised edition).

[jhanic]

Very interesting, Pablo. A good read and analysis.

John

[Randall Flagg]

Out of curiosity, what would a reply letter from King to a regular fan be worth? I have no idea of dates or anything like that, but I would like to give a friend an idea of what one may be worth if in good condition.
Without additional info, it is hard to even guess.
A handwritten letter from King to a 'regular' fan might be worth $10 a word, or $100 a word. A typed letter less. Date, reference etc. all determine.

[mae]

Very interesting, Pablo. A good read and analysis.

John

I just finished reading it. Sadly, it's rather perfunctory as far as actual textual analysis, while being a very good overall study of the series, and DT1 in particular. The table presented at the end, page 1 of 84, is nice, but there are no entries for the MF&SF version, which is what I was looking for (would be nice to see all 84 pages).

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

I bought quite a bit from Chris before he turned it over to Betts. All of that stuff has never been put online.

I guessed that by the missing reference numbers on the original list :)

[ChristineB]

OK, so I jumped on a copy of Wizard and Glass without noticing it didn't have the DJ with it (I'm not completely convinced the listing stated this) but that was my fault.

Now, I would like any suggestions you guys might have as to how to get my hands on a Dj for this. Could I contant Grant and get one maybe? if so who would I try to get ahold of?

Either call Karen at Grant Books (Nerak on this site) or I have a brand spankin' new one that I'd sell to you for $15.

Thanks will keep this in mind, and thanks Karen for the info.

Now I just have to decide if I want this one or not, it has a few flaws that were not mentioned.

[Ricky]

Now I just have to decide if I want this one or not, it has a few flaws that were not mentioned.

The actual book? If you decide against it, I have a mint copy (except that the front board is a little loose) that I'd be willing to sell. :)

[Randall Flagg]

I have 8 or so I would sell. At the right price. :grouphug:

[Ricky]

I have 8 or so I would sell. At the right price. :grouphug:

$300 and the buyer's soul, right?

[namelessnpoor]

Wondering what a signed 3rd edition Gunslinger is worth, looking to buy one. I don't think i have actually ever seen one for sale though? Has anyone else?
Thanks
Rusty

[ChristineB]

I have 8 or so I would sell. At the right price. :grouphug:

$300 and the buyer's soul, right?

LOL most likely.

And I already gave my soul to the person I bought my beat up 1st of The Gunslinger from. :)

[ChristineB]

I would like some advise on what a 1st Wizard and Glass Fine should cost without a DJ?

[wizardsrainbow]

Wondering what a signed 3rd edition Gunslinger is worth, looking to buy one. I don't think i have actually ever seen one for sale though? Has anyone else?
Thanks
Rusty

Rusty-

I own one. It was inscribed to KelLee Larson, who was the Office Manager at Donald M. Grant Publishing prior to Karen taking over. I bought it from Dave Hutcheson (Hutch) years ago and I paid $350 I am pretty sure. That is more than I would normally pay but I am a Dark Tower completest and I had never seen another one of these legitimately signed by King, so I stretched to buy it. I also bought from Hutch at the same time a Grant 2nd edition Drawing of the Three inscribed to KelLee and a Grant 1st Wizard & Glass inscribed to KelLee.

In today's market, I think a signed 3rd edition Grant Gunslinger could bring $250 to a seller. Sorry, that was more answer than you were looking for.

[wizardsrainbow]

I would like some advise on what a 1st Wizard and Glass Fine should cost without a DJ?

Christine-

In today's soft market, I would say aproximately $50-$65.

[Randall Flagg]

I'd say $70. The Dj is $20 from Grant books. Interestingly, the double dj for the S/L of DTIV is $15, yet the single for DTIV is $20.

[Ari_Racing]

Is the market reaching its most soft point? It's not that long I've been a collector (6-7 years), but I never saw as low prices as the ones you see these days (not for all the articles, of course!)

[Randall Flagg]

Is the market reaching its most soft point? It's not that long I've been a collector (6-7 years), but I never saw as low prices as the ones you see these days (not for all the articles, of course!)
Hard to say. It could go lower.:(

[wizardsrainbow]

The market (King that is)? I think we have overall reached bottom and are bouncing along there. Of course, some items will continue to deteriorate in price, but I think as the general economy recovers, some pricing power will return to collectibles. Some, not a lot though.

[namelessnpoor]

Wondering what a signed 3rd edition Gunslinger is worth, looking to buy one. I don't think i have actually ever seen one for sale though? Has anyone else?
Thanks
Rusty

Rusty-

I own one. It was inscribed to KelLee Larson, who was the Office Manager at Donald M. Grant Publishing prior to Karen taking over. I bought it from Dave Hutcheson (Hutch) years ago and I paid $350 I am pretty sure. That is more than I would normally pay but I am a Dark Tower completest and I had never seen another one of these legitimately signed by King, so I stretched to buy it. I also bought from Hutch at the same time a Grant 2nd edition Drawing of the Three inscribed to KelLee and a Grant 1st Wizard & Glass inscribed to KelLee.

In today's market, I think a signed 3rd edition Grant Gunslinger could bring $250 to a seller. Sorry, that was more answer than you were looking for.

Thanks David, should you come across one or know of one let me know as i would be interested in purchasing it if the price is reasonable enough

[ChristineB]

Thanks David and RF.

[wizardsrainbow]

Question: Secret Windows hardcover...it was only released as a BOMC and my copy has no price on the DJ (as are all BOMC I believe). I have a customer who is confused as to how to identify a first edition of this book. The Collector's listing and one compiled by Bev Vincent say that there is a price on the DJ of the first edition. I think there is no price as it was only a BOMC edition. Tell me if I am right or wrong here.

Thanks

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Question: Secret Windows hardcover...it was only released as a BOMC and my copy has no price on the DJ (as are all BOMC I believe). I have a customer who is confused as to how to identify a first edition of this book. The Collector's listing and one compiled by Bev Vincent say that there is a price on the DJ of the first edition. I think there is no price as it was only a BOMC edition. Tell me if I am right or wrong here.

Thanks

I've never seen a price on BOMC editions.

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

[jhanic]

Even more specifically, I've never seen a price on the dj of Secret Windows. I think The Collector and Bev are mistaken. Also, as far as I know, there is no way of determining if it's a first edition or not, as is true of all BOMC editions.

John

[Randall Flagg]

We talked about this ~1 year ago.
Link (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?p=329553&highlight=secret+Windows#post329553)

Secret Windows Catalog Entry (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showwiki.php?title=Collectibles:Secret+Windows+-+BOM+HC&redirect=no)

[wizardsrainbow]

Thanks for the input and confirmation that the lists are incorrect stating there is a price on the DJ.

[super sam]

I would like to have some help from a non US inhabitant who sells on ebay.
I´m trying to sell some books and can´t figure out to get the shippingcost right in the auction.
If you can help me, plese send a PM .

[frik]

If you can help me, plese send a PM .

done!

sk

[wizardsrainbow]

Help with pricing on Twice the Power.

I want to know what a middle of the road market value for this book is today.

Thank you

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Help with pricing on Twice the Power.

I want to know what a middle of the road market value for this book is today.

Thank you

$150

[biomieg]

Help with pricing on Twice the Power.

I want to know what a middle of the road market value for this book is today.

Thank you

$150

If you're going to sell a copy for $150 David, I'm interested :)

[jhanic]

I agree. $150-$200 would be a fair price.

John

[wizardsrainbow]

Thanks all. I just had a guy inquire what his book was worth and asked me if I do consignments. Biomeg. If he does sell it or consign it to me, you will have dibs on the book.

[herbertwest]

No offense, but i really dont understand why you (David) share the price you buy books to sell them... and stuff...
A new business model here?

[turtlex]

I don't think he's sharing the price he's going to buy the books for ... he's just asking what he could possibly sell them for.

[biomieg]

Thanks, Father D.! Looking forward to seeing lots of proofs at Bett's, they are my main collecting goal right now :)

[natehorning]

That is something I have always found Betts to be lacking. I always check here, as they are my main collecting interest too, but there has always been the same few. Seperately, it is nice to see prices that seem to reflect the state of the market. Previously they seemed stuck at the peak of the market.



Nate

[Patrick]

I don't think he's sharing the price he's going to buy the books for ... he's just asking what he could possibly sell them for.That's how I read it.

[biomieg]

It is nice to see prices that seem to reflect the state of the market. Previously they seemed stuck at the peak of the market.

Quoted for truth! My proof collection is still quite modest (13 US and 10 UK) and there are at least 10 other proof titles out there which can be had for less than $100 a piece (some a lot less) so I made a wishlist to keep myself busy the coming months :)

[GrimmReaper]

Hey guys, I've been a lurker here for awhile. Finally decided to register. :dance:

I've just recently started to collect Stephen King books. So I've been posting ads for Stephen King books on craigslist to see what I could find. I got this offer today.

- Just After Sunset (UK Collector's edition, still sealed) $80
- Secretary of Dreams vol. 1 $50

Don't know what edition the Secretary of Dreams is.

So do you guys think it's worth it? If it's in good condition of course.


EDIT:

I hope I posted this in the right place.

[Matt]

This is fine but it may get merged with the general question thread.

My personal opinion is that Craigs list is probably not the best place to find a good deal on collectible books. You may not run into a problem but I would always use a reputable book dealer. We have many affiliated with the site.

In any case, welcome to the site. Its great to meet you. :thumbsup:

[GrimmReaper]

Hi Matt, nice to meet you too.

I posted the ad locally so I'm hoping to meet with the seller tomorrow. I live in Hawaii so It's a gonna be a short drive. :) So if the books are in excellent condition do you think it's a good deal?

Thanks for the advice by the way, I'm gonna check to book dealers out.

[Airtraffic]

I have no doubt that the books are in good condition, but if you are just starting out these might not be the ones that you want to buy. I'd start by trying to find good copies of your fav books and move on from there. Know what I mean?

[biomieg]

If the books and slipcases are in fine condition, this is a decent deal. SOD retail price was $75, and the UK limited JAS retail price was £40.

And as far as I know, there have been no reprints of SOD so you will be getting a 1st/1st edition.

*edit* Just some random info you may find helpful:

1) eBay.com is your friend for good deals, but always ask the seller the right questions to make sure it's a 1st edition 1st printing and it's in the desired condition
2) eBay.co.uk for UK editions, there's a bit of overlap with eBay.com but the majority of UK listings does not show up on eBay.com (no idea why)
3) abebooks.com and used.addall.com. These are basically databases that contain the inventories of many online booksellers, and you can order directly via the website. Pro: you don't need to bid and wait (and very often, you can work out deals for lower prices with the sellers), con: more often than not, the images posted are stock photos of completely different editions so make sure it's the book you're looking for.
4) www.stephenkingcollector.com has tons of info on limited King (also trades), including current market prices for the books. There are also guides to ID 1st/1st US and UK King books.
5) As Matt pointed out, there are sellers among our fellow forum members Just to name a few: Wizardsrainbow recently became the caretaker of the world-renowned Betts Books (www.bettsbooks.com), Shibus sells lots of King collectibles on eBay, and Hutch has his online bookstore (http://www.marketworks.com/storefrontprofiles/default.aspx?sfid=30007).

You will soon find out that this forum is frequented by some of the world's most knowledgeable and largest King collectors in the world.

[GrimmReaper]

Thanks for the tips guys.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

2) eBay.co.uk for UK editions, there's a bit of overlap with eBay.com but the majority of UK listings does not show up on eBay.com (no idea why)


Because you have to pay extra to have it appear on ebay.com

[biomieg]

Thanks, didn't know that :)

[at_one]

What is the difference between UK Insomnia S/L and Gift edition? Do they both have bookplates w/ the gift being a facsimile sig?

[Room 217 Caretaker]

What is the difference between UK Insomnia S/L and Gift edition? Do they both have bookplates w/ the gift being a facsimile sig?

Limited edition of 200 copies with a signed bookplate. This is Kings first British limited with his real sig.

Gift Edition listed as a "Special Limited Edition" it states right on the slipcase that the copy contains a facsimile Stephen King signature.

I'm not sure of the number printed of the gift edition.

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

[jhanic]

The 200-copy signed limited has a signed numbered bookplate but no slipcase. The gift edition has a slipcase with a facsimile signature on a plate on the front of the slipcase.

John

[Room 217 Caretaker]

The 200-copy signed limited has a signed numbered bookplate but no slipcase. The gift edition has a slipcase with a facsimile signature on a plate on the front of the slipcase.

John

I didn't realize the S/L didn't have a slipcase. Thanks John.

I also forgot to mention both had bookplates. It's late :ninja:

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

[Sam]

That is not a valid excuse Ralph.:angry:


:P

[Ben Eads]

Thanks in advance!

I am currently in the market for a SNL Little Sisters of Eluria.

What is the current, fair-market price?

The auctions I see online, they are going for $500. That's too expensive for my blood.

Any insight would be deeply appreciated.

Thanks!

[herbertwest]

2) eBay.co.uk for UK editions, there's a bit of overlap with eBay.com but the majority of UK listings does not show up on eBay.com (no idea why)

Because you have to pay extra to have it appear on ebay.com

i disagree: it may also shows up on the .com if users do a "worldwide" research.
at least it was the case in the past...

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

2) eBay.co.uk for UK editions, there's a bit of overlap with eBay.com but the majority of UK listings does not show up on eBay.com (no idea why)

Because you have to pay extra to have it appear on ebay.com

i disagree: it may also shows up on the .com if users do a "worldwide" research.
at least it was the case in the past...

Yes they will show up in a worldwide search, but if you want it to appear on ebay.com you have to check the "make visable to International", it costs you more money.

[Ari_Racing]

I sold mine for $350 a couple of months ago.

[divemaster]

Ben, I've got one I'd sell for $350 + $10 priority insured shipping. It's #911. PM me if you are interested.

[Ben Eads]

Ben, I've got one I'd sell for $350 + $10 priority insured shipping. It's #911. PM me if you are interested.


Thanks, divemaster! $350 sounds alot better than $500+.

It may take me a few weeks to come up with the cash. Will you be selling it before then, or do I have time? LOL.

Also, I don't know if you would be interested, but perhaps a trade and cash? I have a SL of Heart Shaped Box by, Joe Hill. F/F condition. 2nd printing. Subterranean Press.

Let me know if you are interested either way, my friend.

Again, thanks!

[herbertwest]

2) eBay.co.uk for UK editions, there's a bit of overlap with eBay.com but the majority of UK listings does not show up on eBay.com (no idea why)

Because you have to pay extra to have it appear on ebay.com

i disagree: it may also shows up on the .com if users do a "worldwide" research.
at least it was the case in the past...

Yes they will show up in a worldwide search, but if you want it to appear on ebay.com you have to check the "make visable to International", it costs you more money.

where is that option?

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

where is that option?

On the final screen when you put up an item for sale...

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/563/ebay1.jpg

[herbertwest]

5p? Seems affordable... especially if it's a fixed fee...

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

5p? Seems affordable... especially if it's a fixed fee...

It is not fixed. 5p is for a FREE UK £0.99 listing. The amount can get quite high.

[herbertwest]

Does anyone here knows about a website or a book that Would help assessing editions of Shakespeare books?

[jon10g]

I have decided to complete my collection of UK 1st Editions and was wondering if someone could me an idea of the sort of prices I should pay for the following. Advice on reliable sources would also be much appreciated:
Carrie
Salems lot
The shining
Dead Zone
The Stand
Night Shift
Danse macabre
different Seasons
It
Misery
Tommyknockers

Many thanks

[biomieg]

I have decided to complete my collection of UK 1st Editions and was wondering if someone could me an idea of the sort of prices I should pay for the following. Advice on reliable sources would also be much appreciated:
Carrie
Salems lot
The shining
Dead Zone
The Stand
Night Shift
Danse macabre
different Seasons
It
Misery
Tommyknockers

Many thanks

Always good to see another UK aficionado :) Okay, the easy to find books first (Dead Zone, Different Seasons, It, Misery, Tommyknockers). Just log in on ebay.co.uk (not ebay.com) and check out what's listed. I would advise you to wait a couple weeks/months before actually buying - just keep a record of what decent copies of these titles go for and calculate some sort of average price. Then go forth and buy :) A guesstimate for Dead Zone and Different Seasons: $30-$40, and for It/Misery/Tommyknockers: $10-$20. These may or may not be the 'right' prices at this moment but that's what I got mine for.

The other books are a lot scarcer. The most common of these is The Shining, followed by 'Salem's Lot and The Stand. Danse Macabre, Night Shift and Carrie are the scarcest. Expect to pay between $100-$300 for Shining and 'Salem's Lot, around $300-500 for The Stand, $500-600 for Night Shift, and closer to $1000 for Danse Macabre. A couple of copies of Carrie are on AbeBooks for ~$2000, a cheaper one is up for ~$1000.

Don't quote me on the prices as I may be off quite a bit (Mr. Rabbit Trick probably has more accurate numbers), but this is about what I paid for my copies of The Shining, 'Salem's Lot, Night Shift and The Stand.

Forum member Hutch has an online bookstore (don't have the link right now) and he has some copies of The Stand and Danse Macabre for sale.

Good luck!!

[jon10g]

Thanks for that. I shall try and start with the cheaper ones. Not sure I'll make all of them at those prices.

[biomieg]

Why was this thread moved to the Collections subforum?

[biomieg]

Thanks for that. I shall try and start with the cheaper ones. Not sure I'll make all of them at those prices.

Yeah, same here. I actually only need Carrie (and if I'm really nitpicking also a non-priceclipped 'Salem's Lot) but I'm not sure I'll ever get a copy. I won't pay $1000 or more for a book.

[Patrick]

Why was this thread moved to the Collections subforum?

Because I screwed up and didn't realize it. Sorry about that. I'll move it back. :blush:

[biomieg]

Why was this thread moved to the Collections subforum?

Because I screwed up and didn't realize it. Sorry about that. I'll move it back. :blush:

Hey, no problem :) I just thought my brain had finally fallen apart.

[at_one]

Can somebody do me a solid and post a picture of the front, inner flap of the dj for The Waste Lands S/L?

Thanks....

[Randall Flagg]

The DJ is the same as on the trade. The inside flap says $38.00

[at_one]

The DJ is the same as on the trade. The inside flap says $38.00

Thanks Jerome! That is exactly where my confusion was....

[ELazansky]

Does anyone know if any of the artists for SK's books will sign books if sent to them? Sort of making them informal Artist's Editions...

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Does anyone know if any of the artists for SK's books will sign books if sent to them? Sort of making them informal Artist's Editions...

Yes, some will. You will find most of them very friendly and glad you've contacted them.
Not all artists will though and some can be reclusive.
Good luck in your contact search and welcome to our board

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

[CurtSeattle]

I accidentally got 2 sets of the Colorado Kid Artist's editions.

All 3 with matching numbers though in a slipcase in MINT condition which is cool. I think I paid $250 which includes the shipping which is probably too much, but they had to ship from England and I got hit for large shipping fees too. sigh....

I'm sure someone on EBay will buy them.....eventually. :(

I was going to move them on Abebooks, but didn't realize that they charge a monthly fee of $25 so you really need to be a "dealer" to go that route. Stupid ABEBooks@!! Just kidding...pretty cool actually.

[Sam]

Curt, (and I KNOW I'm likely to get blasted for what I'm going to say, but this HAS been my experience) if you get hit for high shipping prices from England then I'd guess it's more likely someone trying to make some cash off the shipping as well as the sale. I've ordered the same set from England and the charges I paid were very reasonable. Additionally, I've actually ordered items from the UK and gotten them for less than I could get them if I ordered them HERE in the US, and this was including shipping costs. All I can say is check around and learn what shipping actually costs from one place to another, and add a little for shipping materials too. If the price is close to that amount, you're fine. If it's a lot higher, chances are you're being taken for a ride.

Here's an example, for me to ship a booklet via Priority Mail inside the US costs about $5 but to ship internationally costs about $13 (it's been a few months, so I may be off, but not much). If I charge someone $7 for US shipping, that may be to cover shipping materials (not likely since the envelopes are free at the Post Office). If I charge someone in the UK $17 though, then I'm trying to make yet more money off them, and that's just not right.

[biomieg]

Just be sure to check the postage stamps on the package and verify with the amount of shipping costs you paid.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Curt, (and I KNOW I'm likely to get blasted for what I'm going to say, but this HAS been my experience) if you get hit for high shipping prices from England then I'd guess it's more likely someone trying to make some cash off the shipping as well as the sale. I've ordered the same set from England and the charges I paid were very reasonable. Additionally, I've actually ordered items from the UK and gotten them for less than I could get them if I ordered them HERE in the US, and this was including shipping costs. All I can say is check around and learn what shipping actually costs from one place to another, and add a little for shipping materials too. If the price is close to that amount, you're fine. If it's a lot higher, chances are you're being taken for a ride.

Here's an example, for me to ship a booklet via Priority Mail inside the US costs about $5 but to ship internationally costs about $13 (it's been a few months, so I may be off, but not much). If I charge someone $7 for US shipping, that may be to cover shipping materials (not likely since the envelopes are free at the Post Office). If I charge someone in the UK $17 though, then I'm trying to make yet more money off them, and that's just not right.

This is a great topic I've been wondering about as well:

It always seems to be cheaper to send from the UK vs US sending a book across. I've sent two books in the past month across the pond. Simple postage to get it there. $29 for one, $33 for the other.

I've been told our options for mailing boxes across has been narrowed down to Priority International (if it can fit it goes) for $40 or basic mail between $29-40. Of course insurance plays a part as well.

:orely: I wonder why it's cheaper for the UK to send to us VS our packages going across the pond?

Am I being told wrong and have been paying too much myself? Not that our government would rip anybody off.

What are the options? Let's use Duma Key properly packed in a box as the example.

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

[Pasiuk57]

you are correct. The USA did away with shipping items by ship. Everything is now AIR ONLY. You used to ship to Europe cheap-I've done it for about 20+ years. NOW everything is by air. Super expensive to ship. I would guess Duma Key properly packed would be $20-$25 at least to ship to Europe. Really horrible for book sales. I ship a friend in Germany all the time items and the postage is an outrage. We send them Christmas presents and pay through the nose. Totally sick....

[Pasiuk57]

I was just in Germany and shipped some books back to me from there. Not expensive at all compared to our rates. Simply a way for the post office to make more money....

[Brice]

Curt, (and I KNOW I'm likely to get blasted for what I'm going to say, but this HAS been my experience) if you get hit for high shipping prices from England then I'd guess it's more likely someone trying to make some cash off the shipping as well as the sale. I've ordered the same set from England and the charges I paid were very reasonable. Additionally, I've actually ordered items from the UK and gotten them for less than I could get them if I ordered them HERE in the US, and this was including shipping costs. All I can say is check around and learn what shipping actually costs from one place to another, and add a little for shipping materials too. If the price is close to that amount, you're fine. If it's a lot higher, chances are you're being taken for a ride.

Here's an example, for me to ship a booklet via Priority Mail inside the US costs about $5 but to ship internationally costs about $13 (it's been a few months, so I may be off, but not much). If I charge someone $7 for US shipping, that may be to cover shipping materials (not likely since the envelopes are free at the Post Office). If I charge someone in the UK $17 though, then I'm trying to make yet more money off them, and that's just not right.

the last time I sent books in the mail I used about ten dollars worth of bubble wrap alone. :lol:

[Sam]

I would plan on about $30 to ship Duma Key to London from the East Coast. That's without the Priority shipping of course. That's just a guess mind you, but I know it costs me damn near $15 to ship a 56 page booklet to any international address. I think it's highway robbery, and I had to charge my international customers more just because of it. About a month ago I purchased a similarly sized item from the UK and was charged all of $4 US for the shipping costs.

[CurtSeattle]

So it's like $5 to get to me (in the US from the UK), but $30 for me to send it there? That's crazy.

My thoughts are that few people know about the discrepancy, so few gripe about it, so it doesn't change then.

That's cost prohibitive for U.S. citizens to do business. Seems counterproductive to the "spirit" of increased Exports vs Imports which we have been struggling with for years.

Have a 500% markup on shipping seems like it might be a factor for small-mid sized business. sigh....

[CurtSeattle]

I just got my Knowing Darkness tray cased edition. OMG...wow!!! The freakin coolest book EVER! I have never been so careful with anything. hahaha!

It's still seating on my kitchen table as I don't know what hell to do with it.

Question....

I see the Number 267 on the shipping box and on the inner box and receipt and I see that they say they are "numbered"...where is the number ON THE BOOK?

Is it at the end with the signatures or at the beginning somewhere. I'm so freakin nervous about ruining the book, I have barely looked inside it. hahaha!

EDIT: WOW! How did I miss that page?!?!?! I will check and see what I have and update it here. I'm sure it's going to be 267 though as that was listed in two spots on the shipping box. (but maybe it's #1 or #300 which would make me feel special). hehehe! EDIT #2: It IS 267...I still feel special. :P

[Room 217 Caretaker]

I just got my Knowing Darkness tray cased edition. OMG...wow!!! The freakin coolest book EVER! I have never been so careful with anything. hahaha!

It's still seating on my kitchen table as I don't know what hell to do with it.

Question....

I see the Number 267 on the shipping box and on the inner box and receipt and I see that they say they are "numbered"...where is the number ON THE BOOK?

Is it at the end with the signatures or at the beginning somewhere. I'm so freakin nervous about ruining the book, I have barely looked inside it. hahaha!

It's in the back with the signature sheets on a very cool page. You must open it to see.

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

[Randall Flagg]

Is it at the end with the signatures or at the beginning somewhere. I'm so freakin nervous about ruining the book, I have barely looked inside it. hahaha!
Should look something like this:

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/510/medium/P1010204.JPG

[at_one]

I remember reading somewhere on the site that "slightly damaged" copies of Centipede's Artists Inspired by H.P. Lovecraft were still available for $150ish.....anyone know where?

[CurtSeattle]

It's the same quality as the King artist inspired one, Knowing Darkness?

[Ari_Racing]

Contact Jerad directly :)

I've just purchased a copy myself!

[WeDealInLead]

OK, a quick question for those in the know. I just bought a paperback or Roadwork and the copyright page clearly states first printing. The number line starts with 2 instead of 1 and it says book printed in Canada, cover printed in the US. Is this still considered first printing in general or just the first printing in Canada? I mean, it cost me $3 tax in so either way, I'm happy but if that's the true first printing, I'm even happier.

I could try to post a pic but last time I did that I got the message it was spam and I lost the entire post.

[carlosdetweiller]

OK, a quick question for those in the know. I just bought a paperback or Roadwork and the copyright page clearly states first printing. The number line starts with 2 instead of 1 and it says book printed in Canada, cover printed in the US. Is this still considered first printing in general or just the first printing in Canada? I mean, it cost me $3 tax in so either way, I'm happy but if that's the true first printing, I'm even happier.


If the lowest number in the number line is 2 then you have a second printing. A first printing will have a 1 in the number line.

The statement on the copyright page "First printing, March, 1981" merely tells you when the first printing was. It does not mean that your book is a first printing. That statement will be on all subsequent printings.

[Randall Flagg]

OK, a quick question for those in the know. I just bought a paperback or Roadwork and the copyright page clearly states first printing. The number line starts with 2 instead of 1 and it says book printed in Canada, cover printed in the US. Is this still considered first printing in general or just the first printing in Canada? I mean, it cost me $3 tax in so either way, I'm happy but if that's the true first printing, I'm even happier.


If the lowest number in the number line is 2 then you have a second printing. A first printing will have a 1 in the number line.

The statement on the copyright page "First printing, March, 1981" merely tells you when the first printing was. It does not mean that your book is a first printing. That statement will be on all subsequent printings.
As Bob (Carlosdetweiler) mentioned, in almost all book printings (Blackhouse comes to mind as an exception) the number-line beginning with 1 is a first printing.
As far as Roadwork is concerned, it appears your book is a Canadian version, 2nd printing.
The US version states printed in the USA. A US first printing has the full number-line beginning with 1.
Example:

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/9391/img0350ez.jpg

[WeDealInLead]

Great, thanks a lot.

[surly]

What do you think; am I being too picky?
I recently ordered a fist edition of THE STAND from a respectable online dealer (nameless for the moment). Here are some highlights from the description:

Very few of these first printings have survived in this condition.
Exceptional item for the avid collector. Very scarce in this excellent condition.

Condition
A wonderful bright clean copy in NFine/NF+ condition. Dust-jacket free of tears, creases, etc. Dust-jacket has several minor scratches. Overall, a well-cared for collector's grade book, protected from any potential damage.

Here are some details of what I arrived:

http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab21/surly_pics/stand/P1010177.jpg

http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab21/surly_pics/stand/2.jpg

http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab21/surly_pics/stand/P1010181.jpg

http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab21/surly_pics/stand/P1010176.jpg

http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab21/surly_pics/stand/P1010179.jpg

You get the idea.
Would you consider this a NF/NF+ collector's grade copy? I was fine with paying a premium for a top-shelf copy but don't feel that it is as described. If this is as good as it gets for what's out there, and you think I'm over-reacting I would like to know before I try to return it.
Appreciate your thoughts.

[frik]

What do you think; am I being too picky?

Would you consider this a NF/NF+ collector's grade copy? I was fine with paying a premium for a top-shelf copy but don't feel that it is as described. If this is as good as it gets for what's out there, and you think I'm over-reacting I would like to know before I try to return it.
Appreciate your thoughts.

I'm no expert, but I don't think at all you're being too picky. If I compare the book you've got to the description, I see two different products.

Dustjacket free of tears, creases, etc.??

I don't think so. But then again, I'm no professional dealer. Let's hear what others have to say.

sk

[Tito_Villa]

Now im not as an experienced collector as alot of other people on here but it doesn't look NF to me!

[Randall Flagg]

Based upon the standards I believe most Collector's would agree upon the dustjacket is AT BEST Very Good and flaws should have been clearly noted.

Very Good (VG)
The most common grade given to a collectable copy, very good means exactly what it says. A very good copy is no longer fresh; it has been handled and shows some signs of wear, but it is still sound and appealing. Flaws such as ownership signatures, bookplates and remainder marks must be noted in the description, along with rubbing, chips and tears, and price-clipping in dust wrappers, where applicable.
It should be noted that the lower the price of the item in question, the less a buyer should quibble with what is delivered. If a buyer pays $10 for a book rated F/F and it is only VG the amount spent should be taken into account.

Link (http://www.firsts.com/Grading.html)

[Room 217 Caretaker]

I don't know if my post will help or hinder but I'll throw my 2 cents in.

I recently sold a 1st/1st The Stand in custom tray for $200 and it had a far better jacket over the one being posted. My copy wasn't top shelf perfect but it was far better looking over the one you've posted. Again, I'm not sure what you paid or are calling premium price but maybe that will help your decision.

Bottom line though, contact the seller and send it back. My philosophy is, if the person who bought from me isn't happy (I don't sell often) I'm not happy. Send it back.

My opinion of course.

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

[surly]

I don't know if my post will help or hinder but I'll throw my 2 cents in.

I recently sold a 1st/1st The Stand in custom tray for $200 and it had a far better jacket over the one being posted. My copy wasn't top shelf perfect but it was far better looking over the one you've posted. Again, I'm not sure what you paid or are calling premium price but maybe that will help your decision.

Bottom line though, contact the seller and send it back. My philosophy is, if the person who bought from me isn't happy (I don't sell often) I'm not happy. Send it back.

My opinion of course.

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

Based on the description, lets just say I paid somewhat more than $200.
Thing is, I really don't mind paying a little extra for quality, but it seems that the terms Fine and Near Fine get thrown about quite liberally these days. I'm hoping that the dealer is honourable and this will all end well. Guess I'll just need to be more careful in the future.

Appreciate the input.

jim

[Hutch]

How much was paid for this copy?



What do you think; am I being too picky?
I recently ordered a fist edition of THE STAND from a respectable online dealer (nameless for the moment). Here are some highlights from the description:

Very few of these first printings have survived in this condition.
Exceptional item for the avid collector. Very scarce in this excellent condition.

Condition
A wonderful bright clean copy in NFine/NF+ condition. Dust-jacket free of tears, creases, etc. Dust-jacket has several minor scratches. Overall, a well-cared for collector's grade book, protected from any potential damage.

Here are some details of what I arrived:

http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab21/surly_pics/stand/P1010177.jpg

http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab21/surly_pics/stand/2.jpg

http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab21/surly_pics/stand/P1010181.jpg

http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab21/surly_pics/stand/P1010176.jpg

http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab21/surly_pics/stand/P1010179.jpg

You get the idea.
Would you consider this a NF/NF+ collector's grade copy? I was fine with paying a premium for a top-shelf copy but don't feel that it is as described. If this is as good as it gets for what's out there, and you think I'm over-reacting I would like to know before I try to return it.
Appreciate your thoughts.

[CurtSeattle]

Seems like there is no logical way that the person could have truly believed that was NF/NF+ in my opinion.

If they used words like "mint" or "it's a really sweet copy!!", then I'd say maybe they just didn't know the scoop on grading.

The fact that they put NF/NF+ means they at least know the lingo which means that they should know better.

shrug...maybe I don't know better though...lol! I picture NF (let alone NF+) as brand spanking new.

Like you grabbed it off the freakin binder on the press and the pages are still warm.

Still looks like a VG copy though, so that's cool!!

[surly]

Seems like there is no logical way that the person could have truly believed that was NF/NF+ in my opinion.

If they used words like "mint" or "it's a really sweet copy!!", then I'd say maybe they just didn't know the scoop on grading.

The fact that they put NF/NF+ means they at least know the lingo which means that they should know better.

shrug...maybe I don't know better though...lol! I picture NF (let alone NF+) as brand spanking new.

Like you grabbed it off the freakin binder on the press and the pages are still warm.

Still looks like a VG copy though, so that's cool!!

I agreed to $400 -- which I thought was high, but liike you Curt, I was expecting a 'top-shelf' copy that looked a lot newer than the one that arrived.

The seller is reputable (as far as I know) so that's why I thought I would be best to confirm here my understanding of what a NF/NF+ copy is.

Still have a much to learn I guess.

Assuming, of course, I get my money back -- I have $400 to spend if anyone is selling :D

[Randall Flagg]

Hopefully you and the seller can reach some amicable return agreement.
Prior to posting here, did you contact the seller to express your dissatisfaction?
If so, what was the sellers response?

[surly]

Hopefully you and the seller can reach some amicable return agreement.
Prior to posting here, did you contact the seller to express your dissatisfaction?
If so, what was the sellers response?

So far, he's been very accomodating so I'm hopefull.

Once I confirmed here that I wasn't totally off-base with my expectations I sent a note to inquire about his return policy. He replied right away (on Easter no less) with a message saying he was sorry I hasn't happy and that I only need return the book in it's original packing for a full refund.

I'm glad it's heading in the right direction for an amicable solution, but I was REALLY looking forward to having a nice copy.
My own fault for getting so excited.

[Ben Eads]

I have a question for my fellow "Calvins" out there.

How do you store your King collectables?

Me? I first place them in an archival quality "zip lock bag" made my Brodart. Then, I pack it well in a box and put it up in my closet so the sun cannot touch them.

Imagine my horror during spring cleaning-opened one of my boxes, found the zip-lock had given out on one of my bags containing two books, and silverfish had their way with them. = (

So how do you store your items of value? :cool:

[CurtSeattle]

Okay, now I'm nervous. I just keep them in a bookcase in my dining room.

Does everyone else just put them away? I have a lot of plastic bins with lids, I could put them in and put them in the garage or something.

Is it better to use Brodart ziploc bags or the Brodart dustjacket covers?

Or both?

Great question!

[Sam]

What do you think; am I being too picky?
I recently ordered a fist edition of THE STAND from a respectable online dealer (nameless for the moment). Here are some highlights from the description:

Very few of these first printings have survived in this condition.
Exceptional item for the avid collector. Very scarce in this excellent condition.

Condition
A wonderful bright clean copy in NFine/NF+ condition. Dust-jacket free of tears, creases, etc. Dust-jacket has several minor scratches. Overall, a well-cared for collector's grade book, protected from any potential damage.

Here are some details of what I arrived:

http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab21/surly_pics/stand/P1010177.jpg

http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab21/surly_pics/stand/2.jpg

http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab21/surly_pics/stand/P1010181.jpg

http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab21/surly_pics/stand/P1010176.jpg

http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab21/surly_pics/stand/P1010179.jpg

You get the idea.
Would you consider this a NF/NF+ collector's grade copy? I was fine with paying a premium for a top-shelf copy but don't feel that it is as described. If this is as good as it gets for what's out there, and you think I'm over-reacting I would like to know before I try to return it.
Appreciate your thoughts.


Here are my thoughts.

Return it and DEMAND a refund for false advertisment. That is NOT excellent condition in my opinion. I'll give it a at best. Most likely, what you have is someone who doesn't have a single idea of what the words exceptional and excellent mean. However, it IS in VG/G+ condition.

[frik]

I have a question for my fellow "Calvins" out there.

How do you store your King collectables?

I just put my books on the shelves...No special protection is given, except for the fact that I keep the curtains closed.
I would hate to store my books so no one -especially myself-could enjoy them.

sk

[Ben Eads]

I have a question for my fellow "Calvins" out there.

How do you store your King collectables?

I just put my books on the shelves...No special protection is given, except for the fact that I keep the curtains closed.
I would hate to store my books so no one -especially myself-could enjoy them.

sk

Very true. I look forward to moving some books out to my new book case. WOOT!

[Ben Eads]

Okay, now I'm nervous. I just keep them in a bookcase in my dining room.

Does everyone else just put them away? I have a lot of plastic bins with lids, I could put them in and put them in the garage or something.

Is it better to use Brodart ziploc bags or the Brodart dustjacket covers?

Or both?

Great question!

Concerning the garage, depending on how much you value your books, a garage as a storage medium may be a bad idea. It depends really. Many factors, humidity, (you don't want your books warping...especially to another dimension).

As for the brodart bags and dust covers? I use both only on my signed numbered limited editions and other signed books. I also place them away from the sun. It really depends on how paranoid you are. Me? I'm very paranoid.

But if you enjoy your collection, and want to view it, dust jackets should be okay. = )

Just my two cents.

[The Library Policeman]

The book is nowhere near as good looking as it was described Surly. I hope you get your money back. By the sounds of it you will.

[Patrick]

Glad to hear the seller is easy to work with and acting ethically, Jim. Looking forward to seeing the copy you keep.


I have a question for my fellow "Calvins" out there.

How do you store your King collectables?

Me? I first place them in an archival quality "zip lock bag" made my Brodart. Then, I pack it well in a box and put it up in my closet so the sun cannot touch them.

Imagine my horror during spring cleaning-opened one of my boxes, found the zip-lock had given out on one of my bags containing two books, and silverfish had their way with them. = (

So how do you store your items of value? :cool:
Oh man, sorry to hear about your two books.

Personally I store mine in bookcases with glass doors as seen in the Bookcases thread. Our home windows have been professionally tinted to block ninety-something percent of UV rays, but I still arranged my bookcases so they receive no direct sunlight.

[Ben Eads]

Glad to hear the seller is easy to work with and acting ethically, Jim. Looking forward to seeing the copy you keep.


I have a question for my fellow "Calvins" out there.

How do you store your King collectables?

Me? I first place them in an archival quality "zip lock bag" made my Brodart. Then, I pack it well in a box and put it up in my closet so the sun cannot touch them.

Imagine my horror during spring cleaning-opened one of my boxes, found the zip-lock had given out on one of my bags containing two books, and silverfish had their way with them. = (

So how do you store your items of value? :cool:
Oh man, sorry to hear about your two books.

Personally I store mine in bookcases with glass doors as seen in the Bookcases thread. Our home windows have been professionally tinted to block ninety-something percent of UV rays, but I still arranged my bookcases so they receive no direct sunlight.

That is exactly what I plan to implement for mine as well. In time. :rock:

[Merlin1958]

What do you think; am I being too picky?
I recently ordered a fist edition of THE STAND from a respectable online dealer (nameless for the moment). Here are some highlights from the description:

Very few of these first printings have survived in this condition.
Exceptional item for the avid collector. Very scarce in this excellent condition.

Condition
A wonderful bright clean copy in NFine/NF+ condition. Dust-jacket free of tears, creases, etc. Dust-jacket has several minor scratches. Overall, a well-cared for collector's grade book, protected from any potential damage.

Here are some details of what I arrived:

http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab21/surly_pics/stand/P1010177.jpg

http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab21/surly_pics/stand/2.jpg

http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab21/surly_pics/stand/P1010181.jpg

http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab21/surly_pics/stand/P1010176.jpg

http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab21/surly_pics/stand/P1010179.jpg

You get the idea.
Would you consider this a NF/NF+ collector's grade copy? I was fine with paying a premium for a top-shelf copy but don't feel that it is as described. If this is as good as it gets for what's out there, and you think I'm over-reacting I would like to know before I try to return it.
Appreciate your thoughts.


Here are my thoughts.

Return it and DEMAND a refund for false advertisment. That is NOT excellent condition in my opinion. I'll give it a at best. Most likely, what you have is someone who doesn't have a single idea of what the words exceptional and excellent mean. However, it IS in VG/G+ condition.

Yeah, I totally agree. I'm pretty sure I looked at the exact same listing and passed on it cause I thought the seller was nuts listing it as excellent condition. If I recall he was looking for like $400-500 for this copy.

Damn shame dude, hope you can get a refund. You deserve it!!

[surly]

When the seller asked the reason for the return, I sent him my pics and explained that I was looking for a higher grade.

It still sounds like it will all work out but this was his response:

"Please send it back and we will refund your money.

I believe you are looking for a True Fine dust jacket. The photos
you have supplied classify the dust jacket as Near Fine. "

Okay class, what I learnded today is: classifications can be highly subjective and make sure you agree on a definition before any money changes hands.

[lophophoras]

When the seller asked the reason for the return, I sent him my pics and explained that I was looking for a higher grade.

It still sounds like it will all work out but this was his response:

"Please send it back and we will refund your money.

I believe you are looking for a True Fine dust jacket. The photos
you have supplied classify the dust jacket as Near Fine. "

Okay class, what I learnded today is: classifications can be highly subjective and make sure you agree on a definition before any money changes hands.

Hope it works out for you!

[Rahfa]

Call it Fine, Mint, Near-Fine, whatever...bottom line, the actual description was inaccruate...

It had a variety of small tears to the spine and edges, and a two-inch scratch to the front cover. No major tears or creases, and many flaws will be hidden by a Brodart.

THAT is close to how I would have described it in a listing...I would not have called it 'fine' or whatever. Surly's right, it is subjective...

[herbertwest]

Did anyone from OUTISIDE of the US, ordered "The Illustrated Stephen King Companion", from amazon?

When I try to order one, (used or not), it tells me that :


Stephen King Illustrated Companion: Manuscripts, Correspondence, Drawings, and Memorabilia from the Master of Modern Horror cannot be shipped to the selected address.


This item cannot be shipped to the address you selected. (Learn more.) You may either change the shipping address or remove the item by clicking Delete.


But the link doesnt give any information... I dont see any reason why it cant be shipped overseas...
:cry:

@Bev : any idea when the new printing will be available? There wont be anything new in the new printing, right?

[Bev Vincent]

I think the second printing will be available around July, which means you should be able to order it from bn.com. There won't be anything new in the second printing. A handful of small errors were corrected, that's all.

I think that if you try to order it from Amazon, you're actually ordering it from an individual who is selling through Amazon. Individuals often decide not to ship overseas because it takes more time and effort.

[herbertwest]

Thanks for the input Bev

About amazon: even the amazon warehouse dont want to send it abroad.
There are no geographical restrictions on the book right?
(it s sometimes the case for educational books for instance)

[Clacke]

Thanks for the input Bev

About amazon: even the amazon warehouse dont want to send it abroad.
There are no geographical restrictions on the book right?
(it s sometimes the case for educational books for instance)

No, there are no geographical restrictions on the book. I ordered two from Barnes & Noble before Christmas and received them here in Ireland with no problems. (Great book, by the way!) :thumbsup:

[biomieg]

I ordered my copy through B&N too, and it arrived in The Netherlands shortly thereafter. I didn;t even know Amazon sold the book - are you sure it's not just an individual selling '2nd hand' copies via Amazon?

[herbertwest]

I did both... i'll have to wait then...

[Ari_Racing]

I got a copy from B&N website a couple of months ago.

[biomieg]

I don't have my SK Bibliography at hand right now, so I thought I'd ask you guys.

Did Gallery magazine only do SK pull-out booklets for The Jaunt, The Raft, and The Monkey? Or are there more?

[carlosdetweiller]

I don't have my SK Bibliography at hand right now, so I thought I'd ask you guys.

Did Gallery magazine only do SK pull-out booklets for The Jaunt, The Raft, and The Monkey? Or are there more?

I think those are the only ones with pull-out booklets. Gallery also printed "The Crate" and "The Man Who Loved Flowers" but not as pull-outs.

Thanks for bringing up the topic. I hadn't "pulled-out" my Gallery mags in quite a while. They really had some quality pictorials. Much better than the skanks that graced the pages of Cavalier.

[biomieg]

You're welcome.

I hadn't seen The Jaunt before but I got a copy this morning on eBay. My collector genes dictate that now, I'll have to get The Raft and The Monkey as well (which is okay because The Raft is one of my favorite short stories)!

[shnnrc01]

hey bob,thats not fair about the "cavalier skanks",maybe slutty or crackhead whore would be a nicer term for those slippery slappers!! aaahh, manys a quiet night i spent with those girls under the covers,although i've got an awful itch lately that i just cant shake!!

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Must be the hair on your palms :)

[Dolan]

"The Illustrated Stephen King Companion"

I actually found a copy at Barnes and Noble near my house and I hadn't paid much attention to the thread on the site about it but while I was in the store I took a look at it. I must say, I was incredibly impressed with the book as a whole. I bought a copy that day and it was a really cool experience taking it home and going through it.

If you don't have a copy - get one.

[Ari_Racing]

Today I was talking a closer look at The Lost Work of Stephen King and even when I find that book really interesting, it's funny how out-of-date it is. Things changed A LOT since its publication in 1998. Several of the "Impossible to find" writtings appeared for sale at least once (not to mention some were published finally, like Blaze or Under the Dome (and even the two first parts of The Cannibals)). And even when several of the writings remain impossible to be found in their original publication ("People, places, and things", "I was a teenage grave robber", "King's garbage truck" (Coincidence, Bob? :) )), photocopies are available of many, so I think hardcore collectors managed to read almost all the "works".

At first sight, the only ones I see that I don't know about photocopies are The Aftermath, The Star Invaders and the complete "Sword in the darkness" (I read only the excerpt present at sk uncollected, unpublished.

Has anyone here was ever able to read any of these?

[dubrosa22]

Hey guys,

I've just bought a lovely antique bookcase with glass doors (30s-40s art deco style?) and was wondering:

How much daylight is too much in regards to dust-jackets and cloth-spine fading?

http://users.tpg.com.au/nefesh/misc/dr22_bookcase.jpg

All the books are quite deep inside the case and it gets no direct sunlight but there are two large windows on either side of the large room it's in so plenty of light throughout the day reflects into the bookcase giving it 'ambient' lighting.

Will my books fade or become damaged at all? :unsure:

Thanks! :)

[frik]

Absolutely gorgeous bookcase!
No direct sunlight, of course, is an absolute must, but I think (indirect) (sun)light in itself does enough damage over the years.
I used to display my books in my living-room, also without direct sunlight, but moved them to a separate room, where I always keep the curtains closed.
But, I don't know what I prefer: proudly displaying my collection for everyone to see and admire -in room with sunlight- or displaying it in a dark room for none to see and drool - except for myself.

sk

[dubrosa22]

Absolutely gorgeous bookcase!
sk
Thanks! I picked it up for a song!


I don't know what I prefer: proudly displaying my collection for everyone to see and admire -in room with sunlight- or displaying it in a dark room for none to see and drool - except for myself.
sk

That's precisely my problem for far too long I have hidden my books away in a dark office I never go into so I thought: why not enjoy looking at them in my living room everyday?

During workdays the windows are fully curtained, so I guess it's only weekend sunlight the books may receive (which is ALWAYS brighter!), so I think they may be safe.

Now I worry about the books getting damaged - I just want to enjoy them! :arg:

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

No sunlight is good for books, direct or not. The colors in the red spectrum will fade.

It's not only the light you have to worry about. Temperature changes can cause condensation and damage books. This can be the difference in temperature between day and night, or even the sun going behind a cloud.

[Dolan]

Listen - oxygen isn't good for books... but that doesn't mean you are going to seal them behind a vault.

I would be worried about direct sunlight. Other than that, display your books proud and enjoy looking at them. Great case by the way.

[frik]

Now I worry about the books getting damaged - I just want to enjoy them! :arg:

Don't!!
Display, READ and enjoy your collection. That's what it's there for!!

sk

[mattv2099]

You could replace the glass in your bookcase with UV glass.

I have several valuable prints framed behind UV glass. It's supposed to block out all the rays that do damage.

It is very expensive, however.


And BTW, your bookcase is beautiful. When I look at threads of people collections I'm always hoping they show the bookcases the books are in... Not the individual books I've already seen a million times. So thank you for showing your case!

[Rahfa]

Listen - oxygen isn't good for books... but that doesn't mean you are going to seal them behind a vault.

I would be worried about direct sunlight. Other than that, display your books proud and enjoy looking at them. Great case by the way.

Yes - direct sunlight is a killer...but short of that, I think you'll be okay in the fairly long term.

I have a lot of my books in a darker space with no sunlight at all...but I've had another bookcase in a sunny (but no direct light) bookcase for about three years and there's been not even slight fading to even older d/js (not high end books in any case...)

And...like Kenny's saying, these books are ALL going to fall apart someday, and only the hand of God can stop that from happening...

[herbertwest]

"The Illustrated Stephen King Companion"

I actually found a copy at Barnes and Noble near my house and I hadn't paid much attention to the thread on the site about it but while I was in the store I took a look at it. I must say, I was incredibly impressed with the book as a whole. I bought a copy that day and it was a really cool experience taking it home and going through it.

If you don't have a copy - get one.

Well, i DO want to get one!
Amazon doesnt let me do it!

[jhanic]

It's only a Barnes & Noble product, not Amazon.

John

[Bev Vincent]

"The Illustrated Stephen King Companion"

I actually found a copy at Barnes and Noble near my house and I hadn't paid much attention to the thread on the site about it but while I was in the store I took a look at it. I must say, I was incredibly impressed with the book as a whole. I bought a copy that day and it was a really cool experience taking it home and going through it.

If you don't have a copy - get one.

Glad you enjoyed it -- and thanks for the plug! It should be available again online at bn.com later this summer.

[Dolan]

No problem. This is one of those books that was MADE for a collector. Those who have it know exactly what I'm talking about. Well done with your research, Bev.

[Lenny]

What's the point of collecting if you are not going to enjoy what you are collecting?
Now I'm not saying display them outside for your neighbors to enjoy but if they bring you the most joy in your living room with sunlight then that is where you should put them. They are your books, they are your collection, they are for your enjoyment. Put them where they will bring you the most happiness.

[wahlers]

Even in a room without sunlight, don't some lightbulbs cause fading too (i.e. energy saver bulbs and halogens)?

[jhanic]

I agree that your collection should not be hidden away, but some basic precautions should be observed so that your collection stays nice.

I seriously doubt that any amount of artificial light (except maybe from some of those tanning beds) could affect your books.

John

[herbertwest]

It's only a Barnes & Noble product, not Amazon.

John

Yeah but it's sold out at bn.com
And amazon, dont want to send it to France... both for the used copies or the new ones...

[dubrosa22]

Thanks for all of your thoughts and compliments on my new bookcase guys.

Yes, I really like seeing the bookcases people keep their collections in too. If I could I would spend 50% of my budget on shelving! I'm always running out of room for new books.

So, the short of it seems to be - enjoy your books in low levels of very indirect sunlight away from condensation (and tanning beds! :wtf:)

I think I'm safe and thoroughly relieved now!
THANKS!!!!

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Even in a room without sunlight, don't some lightbulbs cause fading too (i.e. energy saver bulbs and halogens)?

No. The colour temperature (degrees Kelvin) of these lamps do not cause any problem.

[dubrosa22]

I know you can have windows protected with an anti-UV film or tint.
Could I apply just small 9and cost effective) amount to the glass doors themselves?

Crazy idea?

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Don't use glass, use plastic. Glass is transparent to UVA, acrylic plastic is less so. Polycarbonate inherently blocks most UV.

[Randall Flagg]

I know you can have windows protected with an anti-UV film or tint.
Could I apply just small 9and cost effective) amount to the glass doors themselves?

Crazy idea?
That will work, but the tint will obscure the view of the books.

[Cloysterpete]

It's only a Barnes & Noble product, not Amazon.

John

Yeah but it's sold out at bn.com
And amazon, dont want to send it to France... both for the used copies or the new ones...

Amazon would love to send a copy to France but they don't have any. When you buy off of Amazon marketplace it's just like buying something off e-bay, in the same way you buy from e-bay sellers you buy from Amazon sellers when using the marketplace, just the payment is processed through Amazon and not via paypal.

Amazon has no geographical restrictions on this book, it's the sellers who set this. There is actually new (and used) book on there but the only seller who will send overseas wants $97 for the book. You won't find many people willing to send a large book from the US to France as it would cost so much.

[Patrick]

http://www.transparentglasscoatings.com/images/facts-about-fading.jpg




I know you can have windows protected with an anti-UV film or tint.
Could I apply just small (and cost effective) amount to the glass doors themselves?

Crazy idea?
That will work, but the tint will obscure the view of the books.
There are some high quality anti-UV films now that won't materially obscure your view. May be worth the trade-off for the protection.

For example, see the products made by these companies:

Huper Optik (http://www.huperoptikusa.com/)

Vista Window Film (http://www.vista-films.com/en/Products.aspx)

We have their products from each of these companies on our windows at home (installed by professionals, not me) and are quite happy.

[herbertwest]

What are the "small" books, that contains only 1 short story/novella written by King?
Only publication or not?

Dolan's cadillac
My Pretty pony
The breathing method (UK)
Rita Hayworth... (USA)
The Body (USA & UK)

...
Blockade Billy

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

http://www.akyle.f2s.com/images/breathing.jpg

[Dolan]

http://www.akyle.f2s.com/images/breathing.jpg

Interesting. Never saw those before...

[herbertwest]

"Thorndike Press" for the second right?

[WeDealInLead]

To Canucks on here... how much is shipping for a single, standard sized hardcover to the States? I'll be putting some stuff on Ebay tonight and I don't want to overcharge for shipping.

[e_taylor]

To Canucks on here... how much is shipping for a single, standard sized hardcover to the States? I'll be putting some stuff on Ebay tonight and I don't want to overcharge for shipping.

It really depends.

I'd ship via expedited parcel - its traceable and gets there a lot faster than the small packets service. If its northern or eastern US, then about $15 would cover it (under say 1.5 KG). If its western or southern, it would be closer to $20.

I'd just factor it into the opening bid price and go from there - people always seem to get pissy even if its a $10 shipping charge because they are used to being able to send things within the States for $3.

[WeDealInLead]

Thanks. I figured I'd charge around $15 anyways and refund the change if there's any.

[surly]

I just need to think out-loud and there isn't anyone I know outside of this forum that would listen without looking at me like I was a madman.

I mentioned in another thread that I had been saving for an Asbestos Firestarter for years. Unfortunately, everytime I start to get close the prices seem to go up. I was hoping that with today's market conditions I would be able to find one in the $16K range -- doesn't seem to be happening (unless anyone here is looking to sell???).

I have been in discussions with a seller regarding a complete set of THE PLANT all signed to Burt Hatlen, which I think is a pretty fun association set. The lowest I can get them for is $8K, which is high, and I can get a mis-matched set a lot cheaper, but the idea of complete set really appeals to me. If I pull the trigger and go for the set, I don't know if I'll ever be able save up enough again if a Firestarter comes to market.

So here's what I'm wrestling with: looking at history, its unlikely a complete set of THE PLANT will come up again anytime soon which makes it pretty rare. Would you hold out for a $16K Firestarter (which may never happen) or buy the set which is available now (and may never come up again).

Thanks for listening.

jim

[Merlin1958]

I just need to think out-loud and there isn't anyone I know outside of this forum that would listen without looking at me like I was a madman.

I mentioned in another thread that I had been saving for an Asbestos Firestarter for years. Unfortunately, everytime I start to get close the prices seem to go up. I was hoping that with today's market conditions I would be able to find one in the $16K range -- doesn't seem to be happening (unless anyone here is looking to sell???).

I have been in discussions with a seller regarding a complete set of THE PLANT all signed to Burt Hatlen, which I think is a pretty fun association set. The lowest I can get them for is $8K, which is high, and I can get a mis-matched set a lot cheaper, but the idea of complete set really appeals to me. If I pull the trigger and go for the set, I don't know if I'll ever be able save up enough again if a Firestarter comes to market.

So here's what I'm wrestling with: looking at history, its unlikely a complete set of THE PLANT will come up again anytime soon which makes it pretty rare. Would you hold out for a $16K Firestarter (which may never happen) or buy the set which is available now (and may never come up again).

Thanks for listening.

jim

If I had to choose I think I would go for "The Plant" set. To me the story behind the Plant set would be more fun to have and talk about and more of a personal (?) connection to the author, as it were, than the Firestarter. The Asbestos Firestarter is a "Holy Grail", but I'd rather have the almost equally interesting bird in hand (The Plant) than the one in the bush (perhaps even disintegrating bush LOL). Bottom line, sounds like its distinctly possible if you pass on The Plant, you still may never get your hands on the Firestarter. But hey, that's just my "can't afford either" humble opinion for whatever its worth!! LOL

[Cujo56]

I've run into situations like this before with other things I collect and all I can tell you from my personal experiences, is that I wished I had waited for the collectible that I had my heart set on from day one.
I was happy with my purchase for awhile, but the flame that was driving me to get that one special collectible never died out.

[Randall Flagg]

Offer 15K to the first person willing to accept that price for the lettered Firestarter-no bullshit just money, or the seller of a complete matching set of The Plant for 6K. Make the offer good for 96 hours. The first to accept gets your money.
Stand firm. (Prices are not going up).
If by chance both items are being sold by the same person-offer 20K, take it or leave it.
The strongest position a buyer has is being able to pay promptly, know the market price(s) , and be firm and willing to walk away.
There may be only 25 asbestos Firestarters in the world, but at this time there are at least two sellers-and perhaps only one buyer.

[Dolan]

Firestarter.

[Pasiuk57]

Firestarter--wait not fair-it's mine that I'm selling.
Hey I dropped it $500. Can't go lower.
Someday someone will step up and grab it!!!
Maybe unless a Plant comes along....

[Dolan]

I read The Plant... Sorry it's just not all that interesting to me. Sure the personal side is great with the publication but Firestarter is an amazing collectible.

Just my personal opinion of course. I can't afford either so let us know what you decide...

[ELazansky]

I'd offer the same advice I tell my kids - if you see something you want, save for it and don't buy anything else. If the Firestarter is what you've been saving for, then I would go for it. If you don't, you may regret it down the line.

[The Library Policeman]

Yep. Hold out for the Firestarter, mate. :thumbsup:

[Sam]

I just need to think out-loud and there isn't anyone I know outside of this forum that would listen without looking at me like I was a madman.

I mentioned in another thread that I had been saving for an Asbestos Firestarter for years. Unfortunately, everytime I start to get close the prices seem to go up. I was hoping that with today's market conditions I would be able to find one in the $16K range -- doesn't seem to be happening (unless anyone here is looking to sell???).

I have been in discussions with a seller regarding a complete set of THE PLANT all signed to Burt Hatlen, which I think is a pretty fun association set. The lowest I can get them for is $8K, which is high, and I can get a mis-matched set a lot cheaper, but the idea of complete set really appeals to me. If I pull the trigger and go for the set, I don't know if I'll ever be able save up enough again if a Firestarter comes to market.

So here's what I'm wrestling with: looking at history, its unlikely a complete set of THE PLANT will come up again anytime soon which makes it pretty rare. Would you hold out for a $16K Firestarter (which may never happen) or buy the set which is available now (and may never come up again).

Thanks for listening.

jim


Since you ask, here's my take. From my view, I'd wait for Firestarter. From the beginning, even before I was out of high school, I have heard about the Asbestos Firestarter. I dreamed about what it would look like until the advent of the internet, and even then I had to wait for about five years or so before I finally found a picture of the cover. In that time I also heard about The Plant, but somehow it never captured my attention as Firestarter did. So, for me anyway, I would hold out for Firestarter.

Having said that, I would also like to point out a few items. Firstly, regading the copies of The Plant, having a matching set of those HAS to be right up there with having a matched set of The Dark Tower series (a grail for many collectors). IF you were to go for that set, you would have plenty left to add another item or three to your collection that you may have had your eye on (if there is anything else on that list). If you get the Firestarter, you are DONE with the buying power. Granted, you also would have one of the TRUE prizes for many in the collecting world. If you have any other items that you want to add, you may want to see what gets you the most bang for your buck, and then ask yourself if you are willing to trade all of those for that Firestarter.

If the choice were mine, and I had the money free and clear to make an honest and hard offer for Firestarter, I'd do it. I'd do it in a moment. If the deal didn't go through, so be it, I tried. Then I'd go and look into the other stuff. Like The New Lieutenant's Rap (another of my grails), The Plant (not even on my radar oddly enough), Six Stories, or even some true one-of-a-kind King items.

That's just my thoughts, for what they're worth.

[surly]

If the choice were mine, and I had the money free and clear to make an honest and hard offer for Firestarter, I'd do it. I'd do it in a moment. If the deal didn't go through, so be it, I tried. Then I'd go and look into the other stuff. Like The New Lieutenant's Rap (another of my grails), The Plant (not even on my radar oddly enough), Six Stories, or even some true one-of-a-kind King items.

That's just my thoughts, for what they're worth.

In a nutshell, that's pretty much what brings me here today: I put my best offer forward for Firestarter, couldn't come to an agreement, so I had to reluctantly move on.

If I thought one might come up in the range I'm looking at, I would hold on, but right now it's feeling more and more like something that will never happen so it started me to thinking about all the other things on my wish list (including The Plant).

I"ll sleep on it and worry about it later.


By the way, what are the two for sale? There is 'M' on ebay -- is the other the one 'B' that's part of the 'asbestos collection'?

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Hold out for the Firestarter. Two of them sold last year at Betts for $14,500 and the economy is getting worse now.

The Plant sets are not uncommon and $6,000 should be the maximum you pay.

[lophophoras]

I am in the process of trying to upgrade my 1st/1st.

I have found a copy of Misery that is in fine condition. The seller is asking $47.00 for it.

Seems a little steep to me but wanted to get your input...

[Randall Flagg]

I think that's a bit steep, but not outrageous.

[jemaher]

Hold out for the Firestarter. Two of them sold last year at Betts for $14,500 and the economy is getting worse now.

The Plant sets are not uncommon and $6,000 should be the maximum you pay.

I agree.... hold out for the price you want on the book that you want

[carlosdetweiller]

Hold out for the Firestarter. Two of them sold last year at Betts for $14,500 and the economy is getting worse now.



Really? President Obama said the economy was getting much better due to his actions.

[Pasiuk57]

The economy is getting WAY better-especially in the last 8 weeks. Our sales have taken off-of course comping against crappy sales last year really helps!!!

[Merlin1958]

You know, reading some of your posts reminded me of a collecting regret I thought I'd share. It was art not books, but in a lot of ways they are the same. I am a big Yes, Rolling Stones & Clapton fan. I bought several pieces by Roger Dean (artist for Yes albums) when he first put his work on the market back in the day. They were trying to establish a "market" for his work at the time and I was given an opportunity to make an offer on one of three original "Yes Logo" pieces. They were asking $20k at the time and I offered 12k. The piece remained in play for many months and counters went back in forth. We were at 14k when I got a call at 2 am from the San Francisco Art Exchange with Roger Dean in conference (UK Time Diff). They had another offer at 14k and were giving me first shot because of the previous negotiations and the fact that I was one of the first customers to purchase his work. Man, I wanted that piece!!! However, my business partner (who I woke at 2:15 am) advised me to stand fast at 12k!! Like a fool I listened and the piece went for 14k. As a result of the personal contact I developed a speaking relationship with Mr. Dean and met him several times. He was gracious enough to sign several Ltd litho pieces and forwarded me a few choice items from the Rock n Roll HOF when I was in the hospital and couldn't attend his recent reception. However, all of that pales everytime I look at his art on my walls and remember that for a lousy 2 grand I could have had that "Yes Logo" hanging on MY wall!!!!!

Point of all that being (for what its worth), don't let it become a regret for you too. Hold out for the Firestarter you have your heart set on and it will bring you joy everytime you look at it for years to come. Also, Pasiuk should probably throw you a 10% DT member discount!! :wtf: LOL LOL (j/k)

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Hold out for the Firestarter. Two of them sold last year at Betts for $14,500 and the economy is getting worse now.



Really? President Obama said the economy was getting much better due to his actions.

Companies are waiting for improvement so they can afford the redundancies they need to make.

[Rahfa]

Hold out for the Firestarter. Two of them sold last year at Betts for $14,500 and the economy is getting worse now.



Really? President Obama said the economy was getting much better due to his actions.

Considering we're fighting two wars, and the average Republican cries like a nine-year-old when asked to pay their fair share of a tax burden that's already about the lowest it's ever been, I'd say the economy is better than it has any business being.

[Rahfa]

Hold out for the Firestarter. Two of them sold last year at Betts for $14,500 and the economy is getting worse now.

The Plant sets are not uncommon and $6,000 should be the maximum you pay.

I agree.... hold out for the price you want on the book that you want

I agree that you should out for your price...but the economy isn't worse.

But a complete Plant set signed to the same recipient is very, very rare.

[Fsmdr]

Hold out for the Firestarter. Two of them sold last year at Betts for $14,500 and the economy is getting worse now.

The Plant sets are not uncommon and $6,000 should be the maximum you pay.

I agree.... hold out for the price you want on the book that you want

I agree that you should out for your price...but the economy isn't worse.

But a complete Plant set signed to the same recipient is very, very rare.

As I am reading this, I thought would be very interesting to see a list of the recipients of the Plant in King's list. My 3 copies are all inscribed to Michael McDowell. He is the author who's manuscript 'Candles Burning' was completed posthumously and published by Tabitha King a few years back. Good friends of the King family. I am curious who are the other recipients?.

[Rahfa]

His childhood friend Chris Chesley is one...

[carlosdetweiller]

A few years ago Lloyd Currey sold Kirby McCauley's set. I have no idea who bought it but I think it sold for $6K which was pretty high in those days.

I have sets signed to Bill Thompson (King's editor at Doubleday) and Kay McCauley (Kirby's sister and co-owner of the agency).

[wizardsrainbow]

A few years ago Lloyd Currey sold Kirby McCauley's set. I have no idea who bought it but I think it sold for $6K which was pretty high in those days.

I have sets signed to Bill Thompson (King's editor at Doubleday) and Kay McCauley (Kirby's sister and co-owner of the agency).

Bob has two sets. OK, who is surprised? :P :wtf:

I recall seeing a Lettered set once. Was that Chris's? Do you own a lettered set Bob?

[carlosdetweiller]

A few years ago Lloyd Currey sold Kirby McCauley's set. I have no idea who bought it but I think it sold for $6K which was pretty high in those days.

I have sets signed to Bill Thompson (King's editor at Doubleday) and Kay McCauley (Kirby's sister and co-owner of the agency).

Bob has two sets. OK, who is surprised? :P :wtf:

I recall seeing a Lettered set once. Was that Chris's? Do you own a lettered set Bob?

I have a lettered set. I don't know who bought Chris's though.

[carlosdetweiller]

I recall seeing a Lettered set once.

The whole issue of lettered editions by Philtrum Press is unclear to me. To whom were they intended? King's closest friends (Chris Chesley) and business associates (Thompson, the McCauleys) were sent numbered editions of THE PLANT and red numbered editions of THE EYES OF THE DRAGON.

Why were lettered editions done? Lettered copies of THE PLANT are very scarce and lettered copies of THE EYES OF THE DRAGON are among the scarcest of King collectibles. Chris Cavalier and I used to discuss whether or not lettered copies of TEOTD even existed as neither of us had ever seen or heard of one. (Sort of like two atheists or agnostics discussing the possible existence of God, I suppose.) Barry Levin swore he had once seen one but that was our only evidence of their existence. Over time I know of ONE black lettered copy and ONE red lettered copy that have surfaced. No others of which I am aware. Where are those suckers and to whom were they sent?

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Maybe they are "PC/proof" type unnumbered copies that someone added a "letter" to?