TGDT - Round 3 - Stanley Kubrick vs Ridley Scott

[fernandito]

Stanley Kubrick's IMDB Page (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000040/)
Notable Films: A Clockwork Orange, The Shining, Dr. Strangelove , Full Metal Jacket, 2001: A Space Odyssey
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Ridley Scott's IMDB Page (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000631/)
Notable fims : Alien, Gladiator , Blade Runner, Black Hawk Down, Kingdom of Heaven
http://gordonandthewhale.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/ridley_scott.jpg

[fernandito]

Kubrick, Kubrick, Kubrick.

[mae]

What? What? :angry: This is an impossible choice.

[candy]

jeez!!!! :beat:
you can't see me but i am currently blowing a raspberry at you feeve:shoot:

i can't decide. i will have to wait a while on this

[alinda]

no questiion for me.....KUBRICK!

[candy]

but i love the Alien franchise, i even loved Gladiator

oh and Thelma and Louise:wub:

**sigh** but i also LOVEd 2001 space odessy, and the shining and a clock work orange:beat:

[Jean]

Kubrick, Kubrick, Kubrick.


no questiion for me.....KUBRICK!

same with bears

[turtlex]

Oh, crap!

[SynysterSaint]

Scott gets my vote. Gladiator was the best performance I've seen a director get out of Russell Crowe, and he's one of my favorite actors so that's saying something.

[fernandito]

The fight scenes in Gladiator are some of the best choreographed sequences I have ever seen. Kudos to Scott and his team for that.

Still ... the power of Kubrick's work is undeniable. They've left a more profound impression on me that anything Scott has ever done, although I will say that I consider Blade Runner to be a true cinematic gem and a masterpiece in every sense of the word.

[Seymour_Glass]

Scott's a very talented director visually, but I generally feel that I'm farther removed emotionally than he would like me to be. Kubrick on the other hand, keeps me exactly where he wants me. So, I voted for Kubrick, who's technically maybe the most skilled director there is.

[Still Servant]

Have you guys seen Kubrick's The Killing?

It's a real good heist film.

[Brice]

kubrick

[turtlex]

SS, it's funny, I keep using Gladiator as a reason I shouldn't be voting for Ridley Scott. :lol: :couple:

Still haven't decided this one, but am leaning towards Kubrick.

[Jean]

vote, then, and get it over with... http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mishemplushem/Facilitation/bearmood_angelic.gif

[Brice]

At least she's leaning in the right direction.

[turtlex]

Well, it's Thelma and Louise, Blade Runner, Alien, and White Squall that are holding me back!! :lol:

[Jean]

Dr. Strangelove...
Full Metal Jacket...........

[turtlex]

Clockwork, 2001.... I know, I know!! :couple:

[Jean]

so?............

[Brice]

Pam, you are thinking too much about this. You know you want to click the Kubrick button. :D

[turtlex]

Yeah ... I got Thelma on one side holding my arm, and Louise on the other ... that's what's holding me back!! :lol:

( sorta a dream come true, actually :blush: )

[Brice]

:lol: I'm sure you can think of some way to distract them from your Kubrick vote.

[DoctorDodge]

SS, it's funny, I keep using Gladiator as a reason I shouldn't be voting for Ridley Scott. :lol:

I'm exactly the same, pam! It's not that I found it terrible, it's just so...generic. Man loses family, man becomes slave, slave becomes practically worshipped as a fighter, fighter seeks vengeance. It's the kind of plot I've seen a thousand times before, or at least has made me think I've seen it a thousand times before, and much better, too. However, Blade Runner? Alien? These are films I absolutely love, and yet as much as I loved Full Metal Jacket, I really didn't like A Clockwork Orange. But i don't think i've seen enough of Kubrick's work to make a judgement on this poll, really, and to be even more fair I haven't seen much of Scott's work over the past decade, either.

[Jean]

I really didn't like A Clockwork Orange.
I thought I was only one such freak in the universe...

(also, have posted similar thoughts about Gladiator in another thread)

[Brice]

DD, have you read ACO? I'm curious if you just dislike the movie or the story itself. :orely:

[Jean]

I wonder too

(as far as I am concerned, the movie is brilliant, cinema-wise. I just loathe the story.)

[DoctorDodge]

Nope, haven't read it Brice. I just couldn't sympathise with a man who not only seeks ultra-violence every night but also raping women, too, no matter how much he was psychologically castrated or how much he liked Beethoven. Also, the "government is fascist and amoral" storyline? Not only have I seen that done thousands of time already, I almost found myself actually siding with them on this one. Sorry, wasn't for me.

[Brice]

It's just that I've found that most people who don't like ACO don't dislike the book or the movie really, but the story and apparent morality or lack thereof.

[DoctorDodge]

I'd say I was one of those people then, Brice. I didn't really judge it on how it was directed really, just that it's the story itself that I didn't enjoy.

[Brice]

The thing is though that Kubrick based his movie on the US edition of the book that existed at the time as opposed to what Burgess wrote. Basically it left the impression that Alex went one way at the end when he really ended quite differently. It's (the book) essentially to my thinking a three act play about freewill without the whole god element. There are more subtleties in the book.

Artistically I agree with Jean, the movie is cinematographically superb....and has one hell of a soundtrack. :D

[fernandito]

And I agree with Brices .... and is cinematographically really a word ?? :lol:

[Jean]

Yes, it is: I use it all the time.

::giggles::

[Brice]

...as Jean said....indubitably.

[turtlex]

One more thing I disliked about Gladiator? ??

It begins with the ending. In this case, it was so obvious, I was like - oh, no way, you have got to be kidding me!

[frik]

Kubrick all the way!

sk

[Heather19]

Even though I'm still upset Kubrick pushed Burton out on the last round, I do have to vote for him here. He's definitely a very strong director, and he made one of my personal favorite films.

[Jean]

yes, this bracket is one of the easier

[pathoftheturtle]

Kubrick

Not an easy one for me, but there ya go.


It's just that I've found that most people who don't like ACO don't dislike the book or the movie really, but the story and apparent morality or lack thereof.*Raises Hand* I do like the book better than the movie, but ultimately I don't like the story. My reasons do actually go a bit deeper than "apparent lack of morality" but I suppose that's one way of putting it -- close enough on such a tangential thread as this one, so long as you're not assuming that we can't do real analysis.

[Melike]

Kubrick.

[Jean]

Kubrick

Not an easy one for me, but there ya go.


It's just that I've found that most people who don't like ACO don't dislike the book or the movie really, but the story and apparent morality or lack thereof.*Raises Hand* I do like the book better than the movie, but ultimately I don't like the story. My reasons do actually go a bit deeper than "apparent lack of morality" but I suppose that's one way of putting it -- close enough on such a tangential thread as this one, so long as you're not assuming that we can't do real analysis. I would love to read your thoughts on this in some of the standing threads.

[Seymour_Glass]

I just realized something. I've mainly judged these by how the work of a director has affected me emotionally, but with this contest neither one has done a damn thing on that front.

[pathoftheturtle]

I just realized something. I've mainly judged these by how the work of a director has affected me emotionally, but with this contest neither one has done a damn thing on that front.
Thelma & Louise ?


Kubrick

Not an easy one for me, but there ya go.


It's just that I've found that most people who don't like ACO don't dislike the book or the movie really, but the story and apparent morality or lack thereof.*Raises Hand* I do like the book better than the movie, but ultimately I don't like the story. My reasons do actually go a bit deeper than "apparent lack of morality" but I suppose that's one way of putting it -- close enough on such a tangential thread as this one, so long as you're not assuming that we can't do real analysis. I would love to read your thoughts on this in some of the standing threads.I will look when I get a chance. Sorry I've not paid more attention to Dutch Hill.

[fernandito]

Kubrick advances !

[Jean]

good