Horror films

[Jean]

which reminds me, I have intended to watch it since forever

[fernandito]

I'm about 98.6% sure you'll love it.

[Jean]

so am I. Downloading it now.

[fearless-freak]

anyone here seen the Subspecies series?

[needfulthings]

Now out on Blu-ray
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& be sure to check out both.
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[Jean]

Bruce: I am starting with the original, but if you say the remake is worth it, I'll find it too

[needfulthings]

Please do I'm sure you will enjoy both.

[Jean]

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[needfulthings]

One of the better adaptations.
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On the other hand.
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[needfulthings]

WTF?
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RATED PG

[Mattrick]

I heard the the remake of The Vanishing in America was dreadful and most sites told me not to bother with it as the original is far better.

[fernandito]

Don't bother with the remake. OG all the way.

[Jean]

have watched Spoorloos, and sure can say loved it. It wasn't amazingly good, but very good nonetheless.

[needfulthings]

Just in from Italy ARGENTO'S DRACULA 3D.
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Not Dario's best work & one of the worst CGI Werewolfs ever.

[RichardX]

After reading a lot of good buzz about "You're Next" I finally got around to watching it. I found it a mostly disappointing. At best, it had some funny moments but was generally an implausible and not very scary film. Maybe I'm getting old, but I find a general dumbing down in books and movies. I can't remember the last horror film that was truly scary and enjoyable. Something like the original "Paranormal Activity" comes close, but mostly I see younger directors trying to mimic movies from the 70s and 80s and failing miserably. They seem contrived and often mean spirited.

[Ricky]

I've almost watched it a couple times, but it just doesn't seem like anything special.

[RichardX]

Watched "Butcher Boys" and "Byzantium" this weekend. Butcher Boys is Texas Chainsaw Massacre meets the Warriors. That sounds better than it really is. Mostly a lot of running through dark urban settings while being chased. A big yawn. A few interesting characters are introduced at the end, but too little, too late. Another attempt to recreate the feel of those 70s movies that goes horribly wrong. Byzantium is a long winded but interesting vampire tale. Not great but better than average horror film.

[fernandito]

have watched Spoorloos, and sure can say loved it. It wasn't amazingly good, but very good nonetheless.
The suspense in those last 10 minutes is almost unbearable.

[needfulthings]

have watched Spoorloos, and sure can say loved it. It wasn't amazingly good, but very good nonetheless.
The suspense in those last 10 minutes is almost unbearable.
WELL YOU DEFINITELY CAN'T SAY THAT ABOUT THIS MOVIE!
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[Jean]

guys - http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mishemplushem/Facilitation/bear_laugh.gif (http://s91.photobucket.com/user/mishemplushem/media/Facilitation/bear_laugh.gif.html)http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mishemplushem/Facilitation/bear_laugh.gif (http://s91.photobucket.com/user/mishemplushem/media/Facilitation/bear_laugh.gif.html)http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mishemplushem/Facilitation/bear_laugh.gif (http://s91.photobucket.com/user/mishemplushem/media/Facilitation/bear_laugh.gif.html)

[RichardX]

I recently watched the remake of "Maniac" with Elijah Woods. My expectations were low, but this wasn't bad. It's not for the squeamish or people who realize you probably don't escape from too many murders by leaving your fingerprints and DNA all over everything, though. Interesting that the movie is shown from the POV of the main character who rarely is on screen. We hear only his voice and what he is seeing. It's a bit unnerving. They take the Norman Bates mommy issues way too far, but it's still an entertaining movie.

[webstar1000]

In Fear.... well done little film

[Jean]

have watched a beautiful, sweet little horror movie, Carnival of Souls (1962)

Heather :rose: - was it you who recommended it to me?

if not, and if you haven't seen it, do it now! you'll love it

[mattgreenbean]

2 I saw recently:
Haunter, which was pretty enjoyable compared to a lot of today's straight to DVD (or whatever) supernatural films.
Insidious 2, I loved the first and thought the sequel even better.

[Heather19]

have watched a beautiful, sweet little horror movie, Carnival of Souls (1962)

Heather :rose: - was it you who recommended it to me?

if not, and if you haven't seen it, do it now! you'll love it

It probably was, I love that one. So glad you enjoyed it.

[Jean]

yes! it was so sad and creepy and surreal, everything bears love in a horror film

there sure must be other film like this? I don't really know the horror legacy of the 60s, which probably is a shame?

[Heather19]

Have you seen the original The Haunting? That's a good one. And I'm pretty sure you've seen The Innocents? That's another favorite of mine. Those are two that come straight to my mind. If I think of more I'll let you know.

And while this isn't really a horror film nor from the 60s, I'd highly recommend Night of the Hunter if you have yet to see it.

[needfulthings]

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Be sure to get the Criterion
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[needfulthings]

DON'T FORGET!
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[Jean]

thank you friends! bears will try to find all of those

[Heather19]

The Changeling is one that's been on my list forever to watch. I'll try to get to it soon.

[Jean]

I saw it a couple of years ago - found it on my list with only a 3+. Maybe I should try it again?

[webstar1000]

IN FEAR... little know British (I think) production... wow... it was good!

[mae]

Would anyone be interested in us having a Scariest Movie of All Time poll? I'm thinking members can nominate films and once we have a sizable amount we can draw up brackets and vote.

[Jean]

great minds, pablo! I was thinking about posting the same suggestion, but was unable to choose between "the scariest" and just "the best"

[mae]

Well I'd want it to be the Scariest, but of course what's scary is very subjective.

[fernandito]

Totally up for that!

Exorcist will end up in the top 3, calling it now.

[Jean]

yes, it will (I hope), but only if we vote the best. It is not really scary, just very good.

[mae]

This goes back to what is scary. To me, scary is creepy, so The Exorcist is definitely scary. Zombies and gore is disgusting but not necessarily scary.

[Jean]

to me scary definitely is creepy, but Exorcist is not. It's a disturbing and moving, deeply religious story. I don't know why it is always under "horror" just like I don't know why Rosemary's Baby is; but I am definitely going to vote for both. That's why I want it to be "the best", not "the scariest".

[Heather19]

I'm all for this! I also think we should vote for best because scary is so subjective. What scares one person doesn't scare another.

[mae]

But does the best equal the scariest? And "best" is pretty subjective too. My hope was to use the voting mechanism to weed out what we generally feel would be the scariest movie. I'm sure nobody will nominate some crappy C-movie just because a poll like this kinda assumes it has to also be the best.

[Jean]

But does the best equal the scariest?
No. I would never be able to honestly vote The Exorcist, or Rosemary's Baby, or Pontypool as "scariest", while in my opinion they are definitely the best. The question is whether or not we want the nominees to transcend the genre. If we do, the "scary" part becomes not the most important, although always desirable. (but, then again, the only two movies I can now remember that actually scared me were El Orfanato and Absentia, both extremely good)

[fernandito]

I vote for 'best' as well.

[Still Servant]

Much like the NCAA tournament is broken up into regions, you could break this tournament up into regions. Each region could include different types of horror movies. One region could be psychological, one could be supernatural, another could be gore. Those don't have to be the actual categories. I'm sure you guys could come up with some better ones. Just an idea.

[Merlin1958]

I'm in as well, but "Bears" always confound me. "The Exorcist" not scary? Tsk, Tsk.

[Jean]

No, really. It inspires such a lot of feelings and thought that fear is supplanted.

[Heather19]

It didn't scare me either, but then again there's actually very few films that have actually scared me.

[Ruthful]

My favorites, in no particular order: The original Thirteen Ghosts, Psycho, The Shining, Halloween, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Carrie, and Freddy vs. Jason.

[Merlin1958]

No, really. It inspires such a lot of feelings and thought that fear is supplanted.

Well I will concede that it was probably scarier in it's original time frame. Attitudes change. Of course I do not know when "Bears" were able to view it. However, a lot of "Horror" films were scarier in their time frames before attitudes changed or the market was beaten to death. The original "Halloween" comes to mind. My kids think it lame now, but when I saw it with my wife in the day it scared the living shit out of us both.

I really enjoyed "The Conjuring". I thought it to be a very well crafted horror story and look forward to the sequel.

[mae]

So, shall we undertake such a tournament, even with the currently ongoing Constant Reader Awards and the about to be finished Top 100 Novels project? I wouldn't be able to conduct it and the CRAs together, but would love to participate. I say we nominate 128 movies we feel are the scariest and/or best and then randomize them, put into brackets, and vote until one one remains.

[fernandito]

I'm more than happy to help out in any way that I can.

Hmu.

[Jean]

do it! do it!!!!!!!!! bears love all this nominating-voting fuss!!!!!!!!

[Heather19]

I'm all for it! I'm more than willing to help out.

[fernandito]

Would 72 entries suffice for this tournament?

Planning on using the same layout as the other tournaments I've hosted.

[fernandito]

Also, just making sure that we're set on this being for the 'best' horror movie, correct?

[fearless-freak]

Phantasm V is official!

[Heather19]

And the competition has begun!

Best Horror Movie Tournament-Nominations (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?18144-Best-Horror-Movie-Tournament-Nominations)

[divemaster]

Jacob’s Ladder Discussion

Spoilers! ... Spoilers! ... Spoilers! ... Spoilers! ... Spoilers! ...

DO NOT READ if you have not seen the movie!

This is a companion piece to my spoiler-free review posted here (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?18144-Best-Horror-Movie-Tournament-Nominations/page8) (it's post #303--I'm not sure how to link to one specific post)

I almost didn't watch this movie. I had read a review that was not kind. But my roommate at grad school recommended it, so I went ahead. I’m glad I did because I think this is a tremendously effective film.

The movie works for me because it is so much more than the “gimmick” or the reveal at the end. If that’s all there was to it, it would just have been a fading blip on my radar screen. Like a formula whodunit where, after you know the culprit, there’s not much replay value.

Jacob’s Ladder has a lot of replay value.

Of course if you’ve seen the film you know that the entirety of the movie, save the very last scene, is a end-of-life scenario playing out in Jacob’s mind as he lays dying in Vietnam. He never did make it back home. The whole film is an exercise in “what never happened.” Ironically, the “flashbacks” the movie shows of him injured back in Vietnam is the real time up until his death in the EVAC tent.

So, what to make of the meat of the movie? In my opinion, it is the attempts of a dying man to 1) come to terms with his life, and 2) try to make some sort of sense out of something so senseless.

I enjoyed watching the movie again and picking up on the “tells” and foreshadows director Lyne throws in. The first scene of Jacob on the subway shows him looking at a sign that says “Hell” in big red letters. He tries to exit the subway system, only to find all the exits blocked. If you note, all the exits (which lead upward toward light) have a sign next to them that says “Ecstasy.” So close and yet so far for Jacob.

There are many other interesting tidbits. The palm reader reads his lifeline and tell Jacob “according to this, you’re already dead.” And of course, after his Dantean descent into the hell of the hospital corridor (a scene that will forever stay with me), the “Doctor” tells him that the reason Jacob is there is because he, indeed, is already dead. It is a testament to the director that he is able to focus the viewer on Jacob’s insistence that he is very much alive and determined to stay that way, rather than tip the movie’s hand of what is really happening.

In my opinion, the character of his girlfriend Jezzie (actually, Jezebel) serves to keep him distracted from coming to his final peace. She vacillates from being supportive of him to being a part of his demonic torment. (Who can forget the demonic orgiastic coupling, and the scene where she transforms right in front of him?)

The character of Louie (the chiropractor) is wonderful. He is presented as a sort of Christ-figure (Jacob even describes him as “an angel.”). Louie is typically shown with light from behind and above, giving him that heavenly tint, and he is full of sage advice for poor Jacob. The “savior” aspect is made explicit when Louie literally picks through the hospital and rescues Jacob.

Louie’s final words to Jacob are the key to explaining why Jacob has been tormented by these demons. “The part of you that burns in Hell is the part of you that won’t let go of your life. Your memories; your attachments…If you’re frightened of dying, and you’re holding on, you’ll see devils tearing your life away. But if you’ve made your peace, then the devils are really angels freeing you from the earth.”

It was a nice touch having his dead son be the one to finally take him home at the end, so to speak.

You’ll notice that I haven’t said anything about the “drug experiment” part of the film, and the character of “The Chemist.” This is where I might have a different take on things as some other viewers. The way I see it, there was no “Chemist” or drug testing at all. Jacob has just suffered a senseless mortal wound in a senseless situation in a senseless war. I believe this is his mind’s attempt to create a rationale. Remember, his conversation with The Chemist never happened. It was all made up in his mind. He never gets back with his friends to compare notes. They are not going through this with him. There is no government conspiracy.

Note that the story The Chemist tells him is not supported by the scene of Jacob’s stabbing. The Chemist tells of this superpowerful drug that causes men to attack and tear each other apart in a blind rage. But look at the stabbing scene. Jacob is disoriented, stumbling around in the jungle (possibly even coming back from taking a shit), he hears a noise, and his friend comes out of the bush and bayonettes him. Not in a blind rage, but in confusion and horror at what he has done. The friend looks scared and pathetic, and Jacob goes down with a puzzled look on his face. Puzzled at how something so horrible has happened with no rhyme or reason. There is no rage, no “ladder.”

That’s why I think Jacob’s mind creates the drug story. To try to rationalize. People always look for a “reason” for an unexpected death. Why did my child die? Why did my wife get cancer? Why did my baby have a birth defect? It must have been something the government did. Or society. Or God. These. Things. Don’t. Just. Happen.

But sometimes they just do. A simple case of mistaken identity and a nervous trigger finger in a confusing situation, and a life is taken. Jacob had a hell of a time accepting that, and his mind played it out in the only way it could in order to come to a final meaning or resolution.

That’s why the very very end of the movie leaves me a bit cold--where Lyne inserts a placard about Vietnam drug experiments or something. I don’t see the point in that. The movie can only be interpreted that there was never any drug “ladder” experiment at all, so that placard (to me) compromises the ending somewhat. (I just turn off the movie before that final text :))

[Jean]

thank you for this essay! It was wonderful reading it and going through the movie again. I think I'll re-watch it some time soon. And I totally agree about the ending; I just shrugged that bit off and immediately forgot about it; for me, it's not the part of the film, but more like a director's comment, a thing which may or may not be taken into consideration at all. What needed to be said is said in the film.

[fernandito]

Jean! Cold Fish should be in my mailbox by tomorrow!

[Iwritecode]

Jacob’s Ladder Discussion

Spoilers! ... Spoilers! ... Spoilers! ... Spoilers! ... Spoilers! ...

DO NOT READ if you have not seen the movie!

This is a companion piece to my spoiler-free review posted here (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?18144-Best-Horror-Movie-Tournament-Nominations/page8) (it's post #303--I'm not sure how to link to one specific post)

I almost didn't watch this movie. I had read a review that was not kind. But my roommate at grad school recommended it, so I went ahead. I’m glad I did because I think this is a tremendously effective film.

The movie works for me because it is so much more than the “gimmick” or the reveal at the end. If that’s all there was to it, it would just have been a fading blip on my radar screen. Like a formula whodunit where, after you know the culprit, there’s not much replay value.

Jacob’s Ladder has a lot of replay value.

Of course if you’ve seen the film you know that the entirety of the movie, save the very last scene, is a end-of-life scenario playing out in Jacob’s mind as he lays dying in Vietnam. He never did make it back home. The whole film is an exercise in “what never happened.” Ironically, the “flashbacks” the movie shows of him injured back in Vietnam is the real time up until his death in the EVAC tent.

So, what to make of the meat of the movie? In my opinion, it is the attempts of a dying man to 1) come to terms with his life, and 2) try to make some sort of sense out of something so senseless.

I enjoyed watching the movie again and picking up on the “tells” and foreshadows director Lyne throws in. The first scene of Jacob on the subway shows him looking at a sign that says “Hell” in big red letters. He tries to exit the subway system, only to find all the exits blocked. If you note, all the exits (which lead upward toward light) have a sign next to them that says “Ecstasy.” So close and yet so far for Jacob.

There are many other interesting tidbits. The palm reader reads his lifeline and tell Jacob “according to this, you’re already dead.” And of course, after his Dantean descent into the hell of the hospital corridor (a scene that will forever stay with me), the “Doctor” tells him that the reason Jacob is there is because he, indeed, is already dead. It is a testament to the director that he is able to focus the viewer on Jacob’s insistence that he is very much alive and determined to stay that way, rather than tip the movie’s hand of what is really happening.

In my opinion, the character of his girlfriend Jezzie (actually, Jezebel) serves to keep him distracted from coming to his final peace. She vacillates from being supportive of him to being a part of his demonic torment. (Who can forget the demonic orgiastic coupling, and the scene where she transforms right in front of him?)

The character of Louie (the chiropractor) is wonderful. He is presented as a sort of Christ-figure (Jacob even describes him as “an angel.”). Louie is typically shown with light from behind and above, giving him that heavenly tint, and he is full of sage advice for poor Jacob. The “savior” aspect is made explicit when Louie literally picks through the hospital and rescues Jacob.

Louie’s final words to Jacob are the key to explaining why Jacob has been tormented by these demons. “The part of you that burns in Hell is the part of you that won’t let go of your life. Your memories; your attachments…If you’re frightened of dying, and you’re holding on, you’ll see devils tearing your life away. But if you’ve made your peace, then the devils are really angels freeing you from the earth.”

It was a nice touch having his dead son be the one to finally take him home at the end, so to speak.

You’ll notice that I haven’t said anything about the “drug experiment” part of the film, and the character of “The Chemist.” This is where I might have a different take on things as some other viewers. The way I see it, there was no “Chemist” or drug testing at all. Jacob has just suffered a senseless mortal wound in a senseless situation in a senseless war. I believe this is his mind’s attempt to create a rationale. Remember, his conversation with The Chemist never happened. It was all made up in his mind. He never gets back with his friends to compare notes. They are not going through this with him. There is no government conspiracy.

Note that the story The Chemist tells him is not supported by the scene of Jacob’s stabbing. The Chemist tells of this superpowerful drug that causes men to attack and tear each other apart in a blind rage. But look at the stabbing scene. Jacob is disoriented, stumbling around in the jungle (possibly even coming back from taking a shit), he hears a noise, and his friend comes out of the bush and bayonettes him. Not in a blind rage, but in confusion and horror at what he has done. The friend looks scared and pathetic, and Jacob goes down with a puzzled look on his face. Puzzled at how something so horrible has happened with no rhyme or reason. There is no rage, no “ladder.”

That’s why I think Jacob’s mind creates the drug story. To try to rationalize. People always look for a “reason” for an unexpected death. Why did my child die? Why did my wife get cancer? Why did my baby have a birth defect? It must have been something the government did. Or society. Or God. These. Things. Don’t. Just. Happen.

But sometimes they just do. A simple case of mistaken identity and a nervous trigger finger in a confusing situation, and a life is taken. Jacob had a hell of a time accepting that, and his mind played it out in the only way it could in order to come to a final meaning or resolution.

That’s why the very very end of the movie leaves me a bit cold--where Lyne inserts a placard about Vietnam drug experiments or something. I don’t see the point in that. The movie can only be interpreted that there was never any drug “ladder” experiment at all, so that placard (to me) compromises the ending somewhat. (I just turn off the movie before that final text :))

I thought I had seen this movie and didn’t like it but after looking it up, I guess I haven’t.

Although for the life of me, I can’t remember the name of the movie I did watch. All this time I thought it was called Jacob’s Ladder but there is only one movie with that title.

[Jean]

Jean! Cold Fish should be in my mailbox by tomorrow!
I so hope you'll like it!

[divemaster]

Jean! Cold Fish should be in my mailbox by tomorrow!
I so hope you'll like it!

Ha! Mine arrived today! But I might not be able to watch it until Friday...

[divemaster]

thank you for this essay! It was wonderful reading it and going through the movie again. I think I'll re-watch it some time soon. And I totally agree about the ending; I just shrugged that bit off and immediately forgot about it; for me, it's not the part of the film, but more like a director's comment, a thing which may or may not be taken into consideration at all. What needed to be said is said in the film.

I'm so glad you enjoyed my review and my thoughts/interpretation. This movie is great on a re-watch, when you are able to pick up on some of the foreshadowings and hints and such.

[fernandito]

The Ninth Gate should be delivered to my house today. I've never seen it before.

[Heather19]

Nice! I love that movie.

[Jean]

so do bears. Needless to say. Only it is by no means a horror movie.

[Jean]

Dave: bears have watched Inner Senses, and loved it. Can't see it as a horror movie, rather a drama/romance, and a very moving at that! Thank you!

[mae]

It always confuses me when bears say "horror movie", I always wonder what exactly they mean by that... :wink:

[Jean]

basically, it's a film whose main purpose is to scare, and that doesn't have any other message, at least not any that can be taken seriously. It doesn't explore human existence, but exploits what has already been explored: the more skilfully, the better the film.

Thus, The Tenant, Cold Fish, Pontypool, Dogtooth etc are not horror films, but The Others and El Orfanato are (both very, very good)

[mae]

Sorry, I don't understand that distinction. If its main purpose is to scare and nothing else, then it's not even a movie it's schlocky crap. A film can be both about something while also being scary.

[Jean]

yes, and the films I listed above are all both scary and about something

the ones listed in parentheses as examples of good horrors are essentially about nothing special; but they have wonderful stories and are beautifully made

[divemaster]

Dave: bears have watched Inner Senses, and loved it. Can't see it as a horror movie, rather a drama/romance, and a very moving at that! Thank you!

I'm glad you liked it. I was also touched by the story. I do think it had enough "scares" what with apparitions and creepiness and jump scenes to classify as some sort of horror, but certainly not like a slasher or monster flick. I think the overall point of the movie was the relationship, and the "horror" set that up; as opposed to a movie trying to horrify just throwing in a relationship to fill up screen time.

Do you remember the scene where the Leslie Cheung character was on the top story of the building ready to jump? That's how Cheung committed suicide in real life soon after the movie was released. Jumped from the 27th floor of a building.

Damn shame as he was such a great actor (and, from what I understand, pop star singer as well). Have you ever seen The Bride with White Hair?

[Jean]

no, I haven't! I might, although it doesn't sound like a film bears would normally watch, because I loved Cheung in Inner Senses. I only learned about his suicide after I watched the film and started reading the imdb comments (I always do after I watch a movie, mainly to marvel at the rising level of idiocy in the world; there are real gems there sometimes). It is really very sad, and I don't know if I could re-watch this scene any time soon. It was disturbing enough without this tragic - don't know what word to use - coincidence? don't know

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[divemaster]

The Bride with White Hair is a martial arts fantasy film, of the wuxia style. Not a horror, per se, although there are strong supernatural (and "forces of evil") elements. If you are not accustomed to '80s and early '90s Hong Kong fantasy films, this movie will be 90 minutes of "What the fuck was that?" If it is not a genre you enjoy, I imagine you'll think about it the same way you do a baseball movie.

Having said that, I believe the relationship aspect of the movie is powerful. Here's my review. You can decide if it is something worth your while to seek out.

The Bride with White Hair
Directed by Ronny Yu
Starring Brigitte Lin, Leslie Cheung, and Francis Ng
In Cantonese with English subtitles
Film: 5 stars (out of 5)

“You would never distrust me, would you?”

And so we are introduced to a fundamental question in this tragic story. A question that changes the course of the lives of several characters, especially the two star-crossed lovers central to this fantasy/romance swordplay action film.

The Bride with White Hair (based on a popular novel and directed by Ronny Yu) is a visual feast and wraps the viewer up in its compelling story. We are treated to love, lust, loyalty, and betrayal. Kindheartedness, naïveté, and the worst kind of evil. The movie asks the question of would you renounce your family or your clan for love? What happens if you have forever vowed to trust your lover but you are now facing a situation where you are not quite sure you can? What if you have been duped?

The film starts out with a prologue: a snow-covered man sits forlorn on an icy ledge from which grows a special flower that is said to have healing powers. The flower is not for just anyone—not even the ailing emperor. It is for a woman. You see, the man has been guarding the flower for 10 years, and we get the feeling that he will guard it for eternity if that is what it will take.

The film proper starts off in a flashback, as swordsman Yi Hang Cho (Leslie Cheung) tells of growing up as the star student of the Wu Tang clan, one of several “good” clans who have joined forces to protect the Ching dynasty from the evil outside clans. Yi Hang’s master is like a father to him and is grooming him to be the next Joint Chief of the 8 clans. As a boy of about 7 or so, Yi Hang has a strange encounter with a mysterious “wolf girl” who saves his life one night.

Jump to about 15 years later. Yi Hang is quite the troublemaker, but in a kindhearted roguish sort of way. He gets along well with the others in training, especially clan sister Lu Hua Ho. She’s a no-nonsense sort and her icy determination has her thinking about the Joint Chief position. They seem destined for each other based on their positions and training.

However, Yi Hang begins to have second thoughts about this whole “protect the dynasty” thing. These are brought to a head when he is helping a couple of peasants and encounters our wolf girl again (played by Brigitte Lin). Yi Hang is stricken by her mysterious, enchanting beauty and follows her.

Meanwhile, while Yi Hang is spying on this mysterious woman (who is now bathing in a secluded pool), we are introduced to the Chi siblings. This brother/sister team were long ago exiled from the clan and in their vengeful hatred have established an evil cult with the sole purpose of destroying the 8 clans. The Chi siblings are not only evil, but creepy and almost comical in their bickering and handling of the cult affairs. There is more than meets the eye regarding the siblings; the nature of which is not all that surprising, but the reveal is handled very effectively.

It turns out that the wolf girl was taken in by the Chi siblings and brought up in the cult. They have made her into a killing force, and that is the only life she has known up to this point.

So you see where this is heading. Yi Hang is tasked to lead the clans in a pre-emptive strike against the evil cult, but he just mopes around, all moody and reflective. He can’t get this mysterious woman out of his mind. Wolf girl (who wasn’t even given a name by the siblings, lest she think of herself as a person rather than the killing machine they want her to be) is also having second thoughts about her purpose in life, and is also preoccupied by fending off the advances of the Chi brother.

When she is sent out on yet another mission she encounters Yi Hang again. This time their feelings are too much and they go off together. Lu Hua has seen this and reports back to the clan chiefs. They all figure that he has been bewitched.

Which brings us to another interesting question that the film asks. What is love, if not some sort of enchantment or bewitchment? Who among us has not had the feeling that some force (love? lust? infatuation?) has control over us? That we are powerless to stop ourselves, even if we know it can (or will) come to a bad end?

Back to the film--has Yi Hang been enchanted by an evil witch? Is he merely overcome with infatuation with the mysterious and the beautiful? Or has he found true love?

Up to now, Brigitte Lin’s character has been in the background, but from this point on she is a force in this film—her expressions; her eyes; her range. The transformation her character undergoes at this point—from cold killer witch to a woman experiencing the first taste of overwhelming erotic love—would be difficult for a lesser actress. But Lin more than carries it off.

The two fall hard for each other. In a touching scene, he gives her a name. They make love. She asks him for a promise: “I hate it most when people distrust. Please don’t ever distrust me.” He swears on heaven and earth that he will never let her down.

Which brings us back to the quote I used to start off this review. Taking it a step further, how would you react if you had given up everything you had achieved, your future, all you have ever known—for love? And then are betrayed?

I’ll stop with plot, because the last very powerful 30 minutes of the film needs to be experienced, not explained. This is where the elements of trust, sacrifice, and betrayal come in. The way these elements are handled sets The Bride with White Hair apart from many other sword/fantasy films, as good as they may be.

The film asks provocative questions and does not compromise the emotion with insertions of the Hong Kong silliness common to these types of movies. We do get the “spectacle” of the Hong Kong sword fantasy genre, with lots of whooshing around and chopped up people. Action, emotion, good vs. evil, depth of character--it all adds up to A+ entertainment.

This is easily one of the 10 best Hong Kong films of the last 20 years. The sets and filming techniques are visually stunning, and the musical score is outstanding. Plus, the last spoken line in the film is a classic.

[Jean]

the way you describe it, bears want to watch it!!

[fearless-freak]

i also recommend A Chinese Ghost Story

[Jean]

which one? 1987 or 2011?

[fearless-freak]

'87, havent seen the remake yet or the anime movie

[Jean]

thank you!

[fearless-freak]

i also highly recommend Tetsuo: The Iron Man, Body Hammer and The Bullet Man they're classed as cyberpunk but to me they're more body horror

[Jean]

I love the aesthetics of cyberpunk. Don't think have ever seen it in movies other than Jeunet/Caro

[RichardX]

I had zero expectations for "Excision" but it is surprisingly good. Dark, funny, sad and well acted. A strange cast with the likes of Traci Lords, John Waters and Ray Wise. The plot involves a delusional teenager and her disfunctional family.

[Jean]

have watched The Sentinel - thank you guys, a very enjoyable, sweet little movie. I read the novel, too (not that much of it is left in the film, besides the very idea of Sentinels), have very fond memories of it because it was one of the first books I ever read in English, some 25 years ago. I remember that the story there was insanely complicated, but very good. Want to reread it some time soon.

Have also watched Shattered Lives, don't know what to say. It would have made a perfect short, but as a full-length film it just doesn't work. I gave it a 4 nevertheless, as a compromise: it doesn't deserve it as a film, but it would be a 5+ as a short.

P.S. bears are not posting now because they are very sick. Goodmind very welcome.

[needfulthings]

http://imageshack.com/a/img845/593/jl23.jpg

[Jean]

I didn't even know there was a "2"

maybe friendly goblins will add Konvitz to their treasury...

[Jacqui]

There are a few older horror films I'd love to see, because I watched a History of Horror with Mark Gatiss, and he covered horror films up to the 70s, and he did another programme about european horror films. I'd love to see Nosferatu. Films from that era tend to freak me out because of the way they were filmed.

Actually, the piece of film that has scared me the most (appeared in dreams and everything) is that old footage of the guy trying to fly off the top of the Eiffel Tower, with the people measuring the dent he made in the concrete (or whatever it was) after he jumped, and them carrying him away. God that freaked me out. I know it's real, and that's part of it. Another part of it was the fact that I was shown it in a history lecture in uni while on a primary school teacher training course...while being shown videos that were "ideal to be shown in the classroom." I was nineteen when I saw it, and was kinda freaked when I got home and my dad asked me what I'd done in uni that day. I started telling him, and he said "yeah...and they get the tape measure out...freaked me out too"

Anyway, back to horror films. I've got a few dvds that are waiting to be watched, namely the Omen Pentology- the four Omen films and the remake of the first. I saw the remake recently with my mum, but I really need to see the rest of them. I watched the original a good few years ago- my mum's a bit of a horror junkie (she's the one who got me into Stephen King books- by having them on her bookshelf and me nicking them...) and I watched it with her, but it's been years, and I'd really love a rewatch. My boyfriend has watched them, they were a birthday present from me.

Also in the pile is Halloween (which again I saw years ago), the REC trilogy (I've seen the first one, and it's much better, much scarier than the American (?) remake), and the original Japanese version of The Grudge (I saw the Sarah Michelle Geller one in the cinema, it was good, but I'm hoping this is better)

[stroppygoblin]

I didn't even know there was a "2"

maybe friendly goblins will add Konvitz to their treasury...

'TIS DONE

[Jean]

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mishemplushem/Messages/lphp.gif (http://s91.photobucket.com/user/mishemplushem/media/Messages/lphp.gif.html)

[Fall of Gilead]

and the original Japanese version of The Grudge (I saw the Sarah Michelle Geller one in the cinema, it was good, but I'm hoping this is better)

Ju-on is very good, do watch it! Also if you haven't seen the Ringu series yet, it may be worth checking out!

[Ricky]

Just watched Joshua after putting in in my queue from seeing it nominated in the horror contest. I really liked it, but was NOT expecting for it to end where it did. I was fully expecting another 5 or 10 minutes since it seemed like a little too much was left up for interpretation. Despite that, it's a really great psychological horror and all the performances are really good. Glad someone mentioned it, since I didn't know it existed until then.

[fernandito]

Thanks for reminding me, Ricky. I need to get to that one soon. I too hadn't heard of it since before we started this tournament.

[Jean]

Just watched Joshua after putting in in my queue from seeing it nominated in the horror contest. I really liked it, but was NOT expecting for it to end where it did. I was fully expecting another 5 or 10 minutes since it seemed like a little too much was left up for interpretation. Despite that, it's a really great psychological horror and all the performances are really good. Glad someone mentioned it, since I didn't know it existed until then.it was bears! bears!!!

[Ricky]

In that case, thanks, Jean!

[Jean]

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[Mattrick]

I've had bad luck with my horrors lately. I finally sat down to watch Vampyr but my xbox doesn't play the subs and I got sick of trying to follow an online script, so I bit the bullet to watch on my laptop and now I can't make the damned commentary track shut off and I was enjoying it so much. So then I decided I'd try watching Stoker and the power went out half an hour in and it was late so I went to bed and I was about fifteen minutes into House With Laughing Windows and the file was messed up and my Eyes Without A Face's subtitles didn't work properly.... I hate films partially done because it's so hard for me to go back and continue watching it, because I start a new film then a new one then I forget. There are a lot of great films I still haven't rewatched (Frailty, 28 Days Later, The Pianist, Donnie Darko and others) that I was watching with my ex and she had a habit of alling asleep during a movie so I stop it halfway through and long story over, I still haven't finished or rewatched them despite having watched about 700 movies and countless hours of televisions series.

[Heather19]

You haven't seen Stoker yet? Definitely go back and watch it. I'm pretty sure you'll love it. Vampyr is a great one too, but you never really hear anyone talking about it. It's been ages since I've seen it, I really should go rewatch that one sometime soon.

[Mattrick]

I was loving Stoker and was very much looking forward to it because I LOVE Mia Wasikowska and I've been anxious to see a Park film finally. I'll probably finish watching it tonight, I've just been to busy to finish it the past few days. And Vampyr was really good, some very creatively constructive shots, really creepy stuff too. Without subtitles and not being able to read the text that was all in German I had no idea what the hell was happening haha

[Heather19]

I completely agree about Vampyr. It has one of the most memorable shots to me, the one where someone's being carried in a coffin and you see it from their perspective.

[Mattrick]

http://cdn.bloody-disgusting.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/3-in-the-mouth-of-madness.jpg
From one of my favourite horrors ever. Can someone guess it? Watching it for the first time in a few years.

[Fall of Gilead]

In the Mouth of Madness?

[Heather19]

Jean have you seen The Other? It's nothing spectacular and somewhat predictable, but I know how much you love horror films involving children. I think you'd enjoy it.

[Mattrick]

In the Mouth of Madness?

Indeed. And this unmistakable church in the film is something I go passed fairly often when visit my mom...I haven't seen it up close though, it's just not far from the highway.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-70Es50yCLds/Tmbq7mMDVvI/AAAAAAAAA7s/C_nydt9ICfM/s1600/MoM+5_JWO.jpg

It was funny, driving past one day years back I was like 'OH SNAP IT'S SUTTER CANE'S CHURCH!' and it turned out I was right lol. It used to stand by itself but now they've built up homes around it and the small area is known as 'Cathedraltown'

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/Cathedraltown_Markham_Streetscape.jpg

[Jean]

Jean have you seen The Other? It's nothing spectacular and somewhat predictable, but I know how much you love horror films involving children. I think you'd enjoy it.
Yes, I saw it. It was nice - yes, predictable from the first minute, but still very enjoyable.

[Fall of Gilead]

Wow, I forgot about that old church. Crazy that all that stuff has been built up around it.

[fernandito]

http://cdn.bloody-disgusting.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/3-in-the-mouth-of-madness.jpg
From one of my favourite horrors ever. Can someone guess it? Watching it for the first time in a few years.
I love that movie so fucking much. I've been bugging the crap out of my friend to watch it.

[Roden]

A few less common ones I enjoyed recently (i.e. movies I had to track down before just seeing them on TV or whatever)..

Two old school slasher movies featuring the great work of Tom Savini..
The Burning
The Prowler

Also..

Two Evil Eyes - Harvey Keitel meowing is pretty awesome.
Creepshow 2 - I always enjoyed that hitchhiker story, I thought it was hilarious.

More common..

Eraserhead - The dark atmosphere is awesome. Reminds me of dreams/nightmares I've had before (wonder how much of it came from David Lynch's dreams).
Lords of Salem - A lot of people don't like it, including myself. But I do like that tritone track "the devil in music"..and it's supposedly connected somehow to the first Halloween remake which I do like.

A few Asian movies from Korea and Japan.. I Saw the Devil, Cold Fish, and Confessions.

[Mattrick]

Has anyone ever watched The Blair Witch Project in the woods, alone, at night, with headphones on? It's quite enjoyable.

[Jean]

have you???

[Heather19]

That was going to be my question too. I don't think I could ever do that. I remember the first time I saw it at the movies, and me and my friend were driving home afterwards, and we live in a very wooded somewhat less populated area. Well that was enough to freak me out :lol:

[Ricky]

Watched Session 9 today after seeing the attention it got in the tournament. Now I'm glad I didn't vote for it. I didn't think it was a particularly good (or scary) film, which was kind of a disappointment.

[mae]

Watched Session 9 today after seeing the attention it got in the tournament. Now I'm glad I didn't vote for it. I didn't think it was a particularly good (or scary) film, which was kind of a disappointment.

:wink1:

[Heather19]

Maybe we hyped it up too much for you Ricky? :(

[mae]

Just watched this horror movie on Netflix. Fucking scary:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEO9iLWBWvw

[Ricky]

Maybe we hyped it up too much for you Ricky? :(

Maybe. I just don't understand what makes it so good. :confused:

[mae]

I don't understand how anyone can watch Session 9 and not be scared out of their mind. But that's just me, that film scared me more than any other, not in the blood and guts way, but in a more subtle way. Its creepiness is second to none. The session tapes alone just send chills all over just thinking about them. And the setting. Other movies may be scarier but this one definitely is my all-time best horror film.

[Lookwhoitis]

In the Mouth of Madness?

Indeed. And this unmistakable church in the film is something I go passed fairly often when visit my mom...I haven't seen it up close though, it's just not far from the highway.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-70Es50yCLds/Tmbq7mMDVvI/AAAAAAAAA7s/C_nydt9ICfM/s1600/MoM+5_JWO.jpg

It was funny, driving past one day years back I was like 'OH SNAP IT'S SUTTER CANE'S CHURCH!' and it turned out I was right lol. It used to stand by itself but now they've built up homes around it and the small area is known as 'Cathedraltown'

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/Cathedraltown_Markham_Streetscape.jpg

I love that freaky movie!

[Lookwhoitis]

I do not spend enough time in the films section!

I love Horror films, although I dont get to watch as many as Id like. Too much competition for my entertainment hours.

Has anyone see this checklist?

http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2012/08/the-50-most-disturbing-movies/

The "50 most disturbing movies!" I am of a mind to watch the whole list! (seen a few of em already though)

I like the list because it also includes films that are just plain disturbing if not necessarily in the horror genre. Viewing stuff like Gummo (huge favorite of mine) and Pink Flamingos can be psychologically horrifying too!

I wonder how I would feel if I watched 1-50 in a row!

[Jean]

I have seen 22 of those

[mattgreenbean]

Mouth of madness +10 I've watched it several times and each time its just as bizarre.

Just watched odd thomas, the girlfriend is Hot! Oh and I liked the movie. I'd watch a sequel.

[Heather19]

Watched Puppet Master, after all the talk about it during the horror competition. It was ok, but I don't think I'll ever watch it again.

Also watched House from 1986. I found it by browsing netflix. They made it look like it was going to be a scary movie, and I thought I had heard talk about it before (although I'm pretty certain now that I'm confusing it with another film). Well it was complete crap. I don't recommend it at all. I wasn't quite sure if they were trying to be comedic or if it was just that bad. And this is coming from someone who loves super cheesy films :lol:

[divemaster]

House was supposed to be a campy spoof or something, by design. I actually have not seen it. I do remember the tag line however: "Ding, dong. You're dead" (with zombie hand ringing a doorbell).

Unless my memory is whack. This was almost 30 years ago!

[needfulthings]

Yes..One of the tag lines was "Ding Dong. You're Dead"
http://imageshack.com/a/img823/1347/9n9t.jpg
ALSO
http://imageshack.com/a/img855/5202/ys5f.jpg http://imageshack.com/a/img853/2508/xiqp.jpg

[mae]

Ah you're talking about the other House, I though you guys meant this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQ_Yo06kIIA

[Fall of Gilead]

House 2 was awesome, and had some funny bits.

[needfulthings]

HOUSE 2007/2008/2009? WTF
http://imageshack.com/a/img823/285/u74s.jpg http://imageshack.com/a/img843/7262/8iar7.jpg

[needfulthings]

1977 JAPANESE HOUSE PROGRAM BOOK.
http://imageshack.com/a/img819/6574/5dqpt.jpg

[Fall of Gilead]

That one with Bill Moseley was an okay movie. Not really scary as such but a good atmosphere.

[fernandito]

Ah you're talking about the other House, I though you guys meant this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQ_Yo06kIIA
I just added that to my queue btw.

[Mattrick]

28 Weeks Later is still one of my favourite zombie movies and while it's over the top at parts and maybe over utilized some slow motion and lighting effects, the frantic yet tight editing and some of the images it presents more than make up for it's few short comings. Sure it's no 28 Days Later but I liked that it didn't try to be. It had a strong family oriented plot that continued even when shit went down and I like the development on the Rage Virus itself, things that were shown but never outright explained or fleshed out such Carlyle's seeming to keep his memory and some control of his actions as he looks for his family and it makes small things from 28 Days Later, like the infected/priest in the church and Jim's infected neighbours still being in the neighbourhood make a lot of sense. Really though 28 Weeks Later at it's core is meant to be an experience film: the first film was after everything went down and had mostly calmed down but we get to see in this film what the outbreak would have been like and just how quickly the devastation would have spread. All the allusions to American Military control in foreign countries is all really well done too and I like how in this respect all the commentary comes through what you see and it's not something the characters come out and talk about.

[Fall of Gilead]

Helicopter vs. Rage infected is worth the price of admission alone!

[Mattrick]

I remember I had seen Spider-man 3 on release and hated it and my friend wanted to see it a couple weeks later and I said, 'No, we are seeing 28 Weeks Later. You will thank me for this.' Six months later he watch Spider-man 3 and thanked me for it.

[Heather19]

House was supposed to be a campy spoof or something, by design. I actually have not seen it. I do remember the tag line however: "Ding, dong. You're dead" (with zombie hand ringing a doorbell).

Unless my memory is whack. This was almost 30 years ago!

Ah ok. That makes sense. I hate to read reviews first, but maybe in this instance I should have peeked at them.


And there's a second one...? The first one was so boring, I'm not sure I could watch another. Is it better?

[DoctorDodge]

Currently watching a little gem called Theatre of Blood with Vincent Price. A very British comedy horror, it's full of little moments of very dark humour that I always enjoy, both in particular shots and in dialogue. Bought the blu-ray today, and only just found out it has a commentary from the writers/actors of one of my favourite shows (that I definitely shouldn't have watched) as a kid, The League of Gentlemen, one of the darkest sitcoms I've ever watched. I have no idea why they've recorded a commentary for something they've had nothing to do with, but it's certainly more than welcome. :D

[Jean]

Currently watching a little gem called Theatre of Blood with Vincent Price. A very British comedy horror, it's full of little moments of very dark humour that I always enjoy, both in particular shots and in dialogue. Bought the blu-ray today, and only just found out it has a commentary from the writers/actors of one of my favourite shows (that I definitely shouldn't have watched) as a kid, The League of Gentlemen, one of the darkest sitcoms I've ever watched. I have no idea why they've recorded a commentary for something they've had nothing to do with, but it's certainly more than welcome. :Ddo you think bears could like it?

[DoctorDodge]

Just about. The only major complaint is a "twist" that's pretty badly set up - it's the kind that's pretty much signposted in flashing lights from a mile away. But despite that, it's a film I really enjoyed that I'm sure you'd like (maybe not love, but almost certainly like) for it's rather dark and wicked sense of humour.

[Jean]

it's the "very British" part that got bears interested

[DoctorDodge]

Ah yes. It is indeed very British. The fact that all the victims are pretencious, upper class critics who usually die in beautifully ironic fashion is the clearest example I could think of as to just how British this film is.

[Jean]

That does it! Bears are already downloading.

[RichardX]

"Under the Skin" was getting a lot of favorable reviews. Scarlett Johansson as the alien in some alternate version of "The Man Who Fell to Earth." Hard to go wrong - right? Turns out to be a real bore but in an artsy way. She spends the first half of the movie driving around and staring blankly at people. The second half she stares at stuff like a TV, fireplace and mirror. Nothing really happens except some guys wonder into some type of black abyss. I like the effort to do something other than mainstream films, but this one is mostly a bore pretending to be art. It does capture some of the disorientation of an alien like Bowie in MWFTE. I'll give it credit for that much.

[Tommy]

Currently watching a little gem called Theatre of Blood with Vincent Price. A very British comedy horror, it's full of little moments of very dark humour that I always enjoy, both in particular shots and in dialogue. Bought the blu-ray today, and only just found out it has a commentary from the writers/actors of one of my favourite shows (that I definitely shouldn't have watched) as a kid, The League of Gentlemen, one of the darkest sitcoms I've ever watched. I have no idea why they've recorded a commentary for something they've had nothing to do with, but it's certainly more than welcome. :D

I LOVE Theatre of Blood, seen it a few times now and Price is absolutely priceless in it, my favorite line is "Hi, I'm Butch!" Classic! I really miss his presence in film

[Mattrick]

OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG IT'S HERE IT'S FINALLY HERE!!! AND IT TWO WEEKS AT TIFF I COULD BE SEEING IT ON THE BIG SCREEN!!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yf5voaoBiw

[RichardX]

Dead Snow 2! This is more like it. A fun, gory horror film that doesn't take itself too seriously or try to rip off every zombie plot ever made. Picks up right where the first ended with Nazi zombies rampaging through Norway.

[Heather19]

Oh good, I'll have to watch that one soon.

[mae]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zz6KOsePEHs

[Mattrick]

Marketting is a huge problem with horror films. They misrepresent films, show all the best parts and leave the audiences disappointed. After getting burned with several horror films in the 2000s like Pulse and The Unborn, I basically swore off all new horror films. I haven't seen a horror film in theatres in years. Even the best horror films of the past few years (i.e. most popular) like Insidious just piss me off. The only good place to find horror anymore is through foreign markets or the independent scene. I love going to the theatres for horror films more than any other kind of film but I just can't do it anymore. There's plenty more problems than what that video mentioned that are more on the artistic side of things. Horror has become a genre of formulaic tricks. I do disagree with his assessment of James Wan, though. James Wan sucks. Everyone keeps saying how good The Conjuring is but I can't watch another James Wan movie. He's so reliant on the same tricks he's become a cliche in and of himself.

[Lookwhoitis]

Good video. Agree with a lot of his points.

I liked many of the films James Wan has directed. Saw was revolutionary and created a whole new sub-genre direction, even if it isn't liked as much by mainstream horror fans. I remember thinking when I saw Insidious it was the one of the best horrors I had seen in a while.

I saw the Babbadook at Sundance this year and it is really good. But he is correct in his assessment, not being able to see the full fledged view of the monster will cause dislike from more "dumbed down" patrons.

Lets face it, enjoyment of film today has different stratus levels. The aficionado or superfan or student of cinema puts a lot of worth in how good a film is (or groundbreaking) while the common theater goer is more in tune with lowbrow cliches and cheap scare tactics.

I love movies and love good horror and thank the poster for keeping me from wasting my time with "Ouija" lol (but I already knew that instinctively before watching the video)

Down with the Suits, Up with the Artists!

[Still Servant]

The video Pablo posted is by YouTuber Chris Stuckmann. He's one of the better movie reviewers on YouTube and I urge everybody to follow him.

My biggest problem with Hollywood horror movies right now is that they are made for 13-year-old girls. It's such a watered down market for horror right now. They're too mainstream and too formulaic. Horror isn't one of my more favorite genres, which makes me really picky on what I watch.

[Heather19]

That's a great video. I agree with almost everything (well except for Oculus, I thought it was horrible :lol:) I hate the way they market horror films these days, and I greatly wish they would take a more minimal approach with the trailers. I also don't mind jump scares, as long as they're in moderation, because most horror films definitely overuse them. I also wish that they didn't feel a need to show much of the "monster". I've always believed less is more. And with those types of horror films, for me at least, they can be ruined or brought down by showing something that isn't really scary to me. Blair Witch was perfect, you never see anything, so you're forced to use you're imagination, creating something that is far more scarier than what they would have been able to put on film.

I also can't believe I've never heard of the Babadook. I'm going to watch that one as soon as I can.

[Ricky]

My biggest problem with Hollywood horror movies right now is that they are made for 13-year-old girls. It's such a watered down market for horror right now.

Yes, yes, yes. Or, at least, the 13-year-old audience in general. The kind that go to the movies as a big, dumb, teenage group on a Friday night and act obnoxious, texting and screaming at jump scares. I can't imagine why that would be, though. It's not like the casts of modern horror movies feature perfect, cookie-cutter high school kids. :orely:

Also, The Babadook is one of the stupidest titles I've ever heard (which is why I never put it on my to-watch list until recently) but it looks like it might be decent.

[Lookwhoitis]

I also can't believe I've never heard of the Babadook. I'm going to watch that one as soon as I can.

It is an Australian film that premiered at Sundance last Jan. It is really good and is releasing this Friday, Nov 28th. Not sure how wide.

[Heather19]

I also can't believe I've never heard of the Babadook. I'm going to watch that one as soon as I can.

It is an Australian film that premiered at Sundance last Jan. It is really good and is releasing this Friday, Nov 28th. Not sure how wide.

Unfortunately no where near me that I can find :( Hopefully they'll release it into more theaters if it does well.

[Mattrick]

Watching The Babadook tomorrow. Sensing it will be in a similar vein as The Orphanage.

[Merlin1958]

Marketting is a huge problem with horror films. They misrepresent films, show all the best parts and leave the audiences disappointed. After getting burned with several horror films in the 2000s like Pulse and The Unborn, I basically swore off all new horror films. I haven't seen a horror film in theatres in years. Even the best horror films of the past few years (i.e. most popular) like Insidious just piss me off. The only good place to find horror anymore is through foreign markets or the independent scene. I love going to the theatres for horror films more than any other kind of film but I just can't do it anymore. There's plenty more problems than what that video mentioned that are more on the artistic side of things. Horror has become a genre of formulaic tricks. I do disagree with his assessment of James Wan, though. James Wan sucks. Everyone keeps saying how good The Conjuring is but I can't watch another James Wan movie. He's so reliant on the same tricks he's become a cliche in and of himself.

In your humble opinion, yes?

[Mattrick]

Who else's opinion would it be?

[Lookwhoitis]

Who else's opinion would it be?

The Babbadook's :D

[Mattrick]

The Babbadook's :D

Close, I'm actually Abalam.
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[Merlin1958]

Who else's opinion would it be?

Wise ass now? I should have learned by now to stay out of these threads. You guys are vicious.

[Mattrick]

Every post is my opinion, just like your every post is your opinion. Unless you're insinuating that I'm borrowing opinions from others, you're stating the obvious.


You guys are vicious.

That's your opinion.




Never got around to watching The Babadook last night so checking it out during my writing break. I've got very high hopes for a movie I just heard existed three days ago haha

[Mattrick]

The Babadook is one of the best horror films in years. I'll probably re-watch it in the next few days. It really is a fine example of what craftsmanship can do for the horror genre. The premise of the movie is extremely conventional but there is great care taken to unfold a conventional story in unconventional ways. The Babadook was made by a filmmaker who has a great apprecition for horror and there are nods to a lot of contemporary horrors, I was reminded of films like The Ring, Insidious, Sinister, nd The Orphanage. Like good horror should The Babadook really focuses on an unsettling atmosphere, creepy visuals and believable performances. It's a film about grief and depression and the madness that comes with them. It unfolds with a slow burn that aids in making the final twenty minutes some of the best sequences I've seen in any horror. A lot of credit to the original way of ending a movie like this, instead of some twist or jump cliffhanger (leaving it open for a sequel) there is a fulfilling coda that is a brilliant metaphor for overcoming the past. Fantastic damn film. Completely fantastic.

[Heather19]

Oh, nice! Now I really can't wait to see this one.

[fernandito]

I've heard (read) nothing but good things about The Babadook. This will be the first horror film I see in theaters in a looooooong time.

[RichardX]

Babadook was good mostly in avoiding the current movie formula which goes: something odd begins to happen (usually involving a child), the parent investigates (usually via the computer) and discovers that others have experienced something similar or a terrible event has occurred in the home, enter the paranormal investigators with a lot of fancy equipment, the showdown begins between the spooks and lead paranormal investigator, the good guys take some losses but prevail - but wait - they leave open a sequel with a flash cut at the end. Babadook goes old school Turn of the Screw. Mom may be cracking under the stress. Who knows what is going on but there is no outside help. It's sink or swim.

[Still Servant]

I'm pretty sure The Babadook is on Video On Demand. Check it out in your area. It's opening tomorrow at a theater near me that plays smaller films. I'm not sure if I will get a chance to see it.

[Heather19]

Is it in Hartford? That's the only place remotely close to me that's playing it. I'll probably rent it soon. I'm dying to see it, although I did start to hear some bad stuff about it. I'll post my review once I watch it.

[Mattrick]

Ignore anything negative about The Babadook. It's superb.

[Heather19]

Yeah I was wondering if its just cause its supposed to be a little different or slower than most modern horror films. Which sounds good to me.

[fernandito]

Yeah, it's more of a psychological thriller than an out and out horror film. That's fine with me, I love that sub genre.

[RichardX]

"Silent Night, Deadly Night." The original and not the terrible remake. 80s style perfection. Bad acting, bizarre storyline but still very entertaining. They sure don't make them like this anymore.

[Mattrick]

Yeah, it's more of a psychological thriller than an out and out horror film. That's fine with me, I love that sub genre.

No, it's pretty out and out horror. A lot of similarities between The Babadook and films like Insidious and Sinister, it's just a much better movie and I really liked Sinister.

[fernandito]

Ah, I see. I must have misread the reviews then. Regardless, still excited to see it.

[RichardX]

"Devil's Due" - not great, but not awful. A found footage plot along the lines of Rosemary's Baby with a dash Paranormal Activity. Give it a C+.

[Mattrick]

http://www.wwe.com/f/wysiwyg/image/2014/07/kane2.jpg

See No Evil 2 was an entertaining slasher film. At times the characters were smarter than I expected then almost immediately made a dumb decision a moment later that nullified it haha. Don't understand why characters in movies don't use ANYTHING as a weapon against killers. You're in a hospital...weigh up a gurney and run it into the guy...it creates distance at least! The movie is ridiculous in a lot of ways, like Jacob Goodnight (Kane) somehow has time to chain up and barricade all the doors in the hospital (which of course, is empty after closing time...since hospitals close haha) between kills, (and they ignore the EXIT signs littering the movie and never think, let's just, leave the hospital away from the crazy psychopath, not to mention He knows which car the guy owns...somehow, to be in the backseat as all killers are haha...the headrest being elevated to hide Kane's 7 foot tall frame gave that away

The first See No Evil is a better movie than this but both are about equally entertaining. Good movies to watch when you're a little messed up.

[fernandito]

I heard the new [REC] film is trash.

[fernandito]

So I watched [REC] 2 over the weekend, loved it. I'm all for sequels delving deeper into the mythology.

I read that not only is REC 3 terribad, but that it completely abandons the narrative of the first two films. Should I skip it completely and jump straight to REC 4?

[stkmw02]

Just watched Kevin Smith's new movie TUSK and loved it!! Not your typical horror movie, but definitely has some psychological undertones and elements of horror mixed in. Very bizarre movie!

[Heather19]

So I watched [REC] 2 over the weekend, loved it. I'm all for sequels delving deeper into the mythology.

I read that not only is REC 3 terribad, but that it completely abandons the narrative of the first two films. Should I skip it completely and jump straight to REC 4?

It does. It's a decent film, but nothing outstanding. If you like those films then I would say to definitely give it a shot.


Just watched Kevin Smith's new movie TUSK and loved it!! Not your typical horror movie, but definitely has some psychological undertones and elements of horror mixed in. Very bizarre movie!

Nice! I just got this one in from netflix. Now I'm excited to watch it cause I thought I had heard some mediocre things about it.

[mattgreenbean]

Has anyone else watched Mercy yet? I thought it was definitely one of the creepiest SK movies in a while. I don't remember the short story well enough to say if it stayed true to it or not. But worth watching, I think it's still on Amazon Prime.

[Lookwhoitis]

IT FOLLOWS was my vote for the best Horror to come out of Sundance this year.

It is at 98% on Rotten Tomatoes right now. Check it out when you get the chance. :D

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/it_follows/

[DoctorDodge]

It's amazing, isn't it? One of the best new horrors I've seen in a while. Avoids going for 'jump scares' and just enjoys building suspense. I love it.

[Heather19]

I can't wait to see it, hopefully it comes somewhere by me.

[RichardX]

"Afterschool" is a slow burn study of youth in the Internet age. An excellent film about a kid in prep school who captures the drug related deaths of two classmates. Explores a lot of themes including how our perceptions of reality are influenced or even created by how they are presented on film and how it becomes increasingly difficult to distinguish what is real.

[Mattrick]

Hoping to see It Follows in theatres this week. Anyone hear of The Harvest? The review on Ebert's site was very favourable.

http://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/the-harvest-2015

[allasorte]

Horror is my favorite genre, from books to shows to movies. I sometimes look for lists for recent horror movies and so forth. Usually I get tricked into seeing something I deemed as awful. Such as "Innkeepers." I didn't like it at all, the actors didn't mesh well to me, the acting was bad, and it truly was just a low budget mess to me.
I really don't like going to the theaters as I seem to get tricked out of losing tons of money and watching a bad film which leaves me resentful. The last time I went to the theater was to see "Dracula Untold." I was hoping it would be at least average to me, but it wasn't. I mention this because I am really interested in seeing "It Follows," but I hate being around children talking, phones ringing, people being rude, and no pause button. I might be waiting to see it in HD.
I will say something I found that was interesting was "Spring." Shot in Italy, I'd assume, it was a different type of monster movie. The main actress to me was absolutely stunning and I felt she did a very good job. I don't want to give anything away, but I thought it was something to watch once for sure.
I know some people hated "Horns" but I thought it was just OK. I'd never watch it again. As for "Tusk" I guess it was a horror/comedy type movie but I really didn't like it at all. I thought it was better then "Human Centipede" but I hated those movies.
As for "Mercy" to me, it was a low budget movie that did nothing for me. I really didn't like it either. Yeah I don't like much but I can't keep re-watching Bram Stoker's Dracula, Seven, Alien, Aliens, Prometheus (yeah I really like it), and The Thing over and over again. I know the prequel to "The Thing" wasn't that loved (I hated how the thing moved too fast as it didn't in Carpenter's) but it tied into Carpenter's quite well with the two headed morph, the dogs, etc. I really did enjoy it. I never watched the 1961 version though.

[needfulthings]

I THINK YOU MEAN 1951?
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[allasorte]

1900 something. I knew I was close, I took a stab at the date lol. Was it any good?

[needfulthings]

One of the CLASSIC SCIENCE FICTION FILMS of the 50s.
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[needfulthings]

http://imageshack.com/a/img912/1788/c2P4gl.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img540/4505/4E66Ha.jpg

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[Tommy]

Love both of those! :thumbsup:

[needfulthings]

THIS IS ONE OF THE CROWN JEWELS OF MY ENTIRE COLLECTION!
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SIGNED BY JOHN W. CAMBELL Jr.& CAST & CREW OF BOTH FILMS
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http://imageshack.com/a/img910/9779/0bWUms.jpg

[Tommy]

THIS IS ONE OF THE CROWN JEWELS OF MY ENTIRE COLLECTION!
http://imageshack.com/a/img538/3646/BA0Myn.jpg
SIGNED BY CAST & CREW OF BOTH FILMS
http://imageshack.com/a/img903/9343/oVBP6O.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img910/9779/0bWUms.jpg

WOW! Fan-fucking-tastic Bruce! Congrats! :clap:

[Heather19]

Horror is my favorite genre, from books to shows to movies. I sometimes look for lists for recent horror movies and so forth. Usually I get tricked into seeing something I deemed as awful. Such as "Innkeepers." I didn't like it at all, the actors didn't mesh well to me, the acting was bad, and it truly was just a low budget mess to me.

I felt exactly the same way about Innkeepers. I swear I had read a bunch of good stuff about it so I watched it, and what a horrible movie. :lol:

I'd definitely recommend It Follows. Really enjoyed that one. Also have you seen or heard of Ils (Them)? That's a favorite of mine that I always recommend to everyone.

[Ricky]

Ugh. The Innkeepers was terrible. :lol:

And I was planning on seeing It Follows this weekend, but the only two times are 7:30pm and 10:30pm. I hate going to late movies on weekends since that's when the stupid teenagers come out. I might go during the week, though. I really want to see it.

[needfulthings]

A GREAT THEM DOUBLE BILL.
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http://imageshack.com/a/img673/4351/YnHCnZ.jpg

[needfulthings]

The original Children of the Corn? 1976
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[Tommy]

Horror is my favorite genre, from books to shows to movies. I sometimes look for lists for recent horror movies and so forth. Usually I get tricked into seeing something I deemed as awful. Such as "Innkeepers." I didn't like it at all, the actors didn't mesh well to me, the acting was bad, and it truly was just a low budget mess to me.

I felt exactly the same way about Innkeepers. I swear I had read a bunch of good stuff about it so I watched it, and what a horrible movie. :lol:

I'd definitely recommend It Follows. Really enjoyed that one. Also have you seen or heard of Ils (Them)? That's a favorite of mine that I always recommend to everyone.

I liked Ils too. I LOVE french horror films (Martyrs, Ils, Baby Blood, Frontier(s), Trouble Every Day, Sheitan, In My Skin, High Tension (even though I didn't care for the ending) and one of my all time favorite horror movies is Inside) have you seen Inside (L'interieurs) yet Heather? It will ruin your day but in a good way :evil:

What I really loved about It Follows is how fresh it felt. In a very weird way, it reminds me of The Shining in that both movies came from directors that don't normally work in the horror genre, so there is little to no cliche. I think I read somewhere that the It Follows director has no plans for a sequel or really any plans to do another horror film but who knows?

[Heather19]

Horror is my favorite genre, from books to shows to movies. I sometimes look for lists for recent horror movies and so forth. Usually I get tricked into seeing something I deemed as awful. Such as "Innkeepers." I didn't like it at all, the actors didn't mesh well to me, the acting was bad, and it truly was just a low budget mess to me.

I felt exactly the same way about Innkeepers. I swear I had read a bunch of good stuff about it so I watched it, and what a horrible movie. :lol:

I'd definitely recommend It Follows. Really enjoyed that one. Also have you seen or heard of Ils (Them)? That's a favorite of mine that I always recommend to everyone.

I liked Ils too. I LOVE french horror films (Martyrs, Ils, Baby Blood, Frontier(s), Trouble Every Day, Sheitan, In My Skin, High Tension (even though I didn't care for the ending) and one of my all time favorite horror movies is Inside) have you seen Inside (L'interieurs) yet Heather? It will ruin your day but in a good way :evil:

What I really loved about It Follows is how fresh it felt. In a very weird way, it reminds me of The Shining in that both movies came from directors that don't normally work in the horror genre, so there is little to no cliche. I think I read somewhere that the It Follows director has no plans for a sequel or really any plans to do another horror film but who knows?

No I haven't. I remember you recommended it awhile ago but Netflix isn't carrying it for some reason :( I'll have to see if I can find it somewhere. And I'll definitely look up the other ones you mentioned. Out of them I've only seen High Tension.

Oh and fyi for anyone that has Netflix, just saw that they're streaming The Babadook.

[allasorte]

@Heather19. I'm sure you can find a cam somewhere of anything in theaters, but in all seriousness, why would you want to as the quality and sound is usually poor. It's either to the theater for instant release or simply waiting it out. There are ways to look to find out, but that's something I could help with with a PM. I saw the Netflix only Daredevil, and I don't have Netflix nor does anyone share their account with me :).

I never was a fan of Netflix. I had their mail in movie plan and it was just like Blockbuster where items were skipped in my queue or always a very long wait. I do not sell for any of these companies, but from what I keep hearing Amazon has 4 times the items as Netflix, free shipping on purchases from their site, and is the same price (unless you buy a year subscription then it's cheaper). And Hulu Plus is current running shows, but no movies. Anyone here use these upcoming more recent streaming companies? I know dozens of people using Amazon and they love it as an alternate to cable. I know these streaming companies don't have everything and many times you have to wait a year for it to "maybe" show up on their site, but I'm curious what satellite and cable will do if people keep on dumping them. I'd love to dump cable, but because of sports, there really isn't a reliable source for me to do so. :(

[allasorte]

@needfulthings. First, amazing book pictures, I'd be proud to own that. Second, I never read either books of The Thing. I just finished the 1951 original movie. Which movie is the book based on as in more accurate with the first book?
The 1951 version, to me, was much more of a happy ending with very few casualties. I have no idea if in 1951 it was frightening back in the day. I knew it was a cult classic, but that was it. Carpenter's The Thing, my most favorite sci-fi horror type movie to date, didn't have that happy saved the world broadcast vibe lol.

[needfulthings]

http://imageshack.com/a/img538/2986/c7fFtF.jpghttp://imageshack.com/a/img907/1434/oGY6Uj.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img901/4559/NGs5Kc.jpg

[needfulthings]

1976 WHITMAN COMIC ADAPTATION.
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http://imageshack.com/a/img661/4215/5nEk6W.jpg

[needfulthings]

STORYBOARD
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[fernandito]

That looks fucking dope ^

[needfulthings]

The wife & I hand colored a set of storyboards for my collection.
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http://imageshack.com/a/img661/4458/9WAE8J.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img661/5444/BgJo16.jpg

[allasorte]

Amazing needfulthings. I'm impressed to say the least.

Anyway I wanted to mention "The Pyramid" and "Lost River." Anyone see these recent movies. I thought they were both awful. That's it.

Oh, @Heather I think. I saw Ils Them. I'm assuming that would be the original of the American version of Your Next and The Strangers? I thought Ils Them was best then the American versions....thanks!

[Ricky]

I was really excited to see The Pyramid, then I found out it was found footage.

[allasorte]

I was really excited to see The Pyramid, then I found out it was found footage.

@Ricky Yes, another camera jumping around movie. It worked a couple times back in the day, but not anymore. "As above, so Below" was the same. Interesting ideas for both, and a complete debacle falling short for me. I figured you would have fallen off the face of the Earth with that little program like a kid with their new toy. Anyway, glad I could help.

[Heather19]

Oh, @Heather I think. I saw Ils Them. I'm assuming that would be the original of the American version of Your Next and The Strangers? I thought Ils Them was best then the American versions....thanks!

Yep, that's it. And I agree. Saw that one first and loved it. That film had so much tension, and I loved the ending.

[allasorte]

Oh, @Heather I think. I saw Ils Them. I'm assuming that would be the original of the American version of Your Next and The Strangers? I thought Ils Them was best then the American versions....thanks!

Yep, that's it. And I agree. Saw that one first and loved it. That film had so much tension, and I loved the ending.

Ending was way better then the American type versions. I was hoping, since I found her very attractive lol, that she would finally find her freedom. (Not trying to give it away) :(

[allasorte]

I watched "Lazarus Effect" early this morning instead of going to church. Though I'm a sucker for Olivia Wilde, I should have went to church lol. It truly was a pretty awful movie to me. The "horror" end of the movie started almost an hour into the movie and the movie wasn't even an hour and 20 minutes long.

[Ricky]

I watched "Lazarus Effect" early this morning instead of going to church. Though I'm a sucker for Olivia Wilde, I should have went to church lol

:lol:

Agree about the film, though. I was really looking forward to it but was pretty let down.

[allasorte]

Just a thought. I'm tired of all these bad remakes of movies that are being made and all these continuation sequels too. Why hasn't Hollywood done more Koontz books? Back in the day, he wrote some pretty impressive books that could be very good movies if done right, imo. "Odd Thomas" was one a friend mentioned to me that I never heard of. Nice characters and a unique idea. Think of "Frighteners" with Michael J Fox, but better graphics and a hotter female counterpart. Off the top of my head, "Dragon Tears" was a pretty damn good book and I think could be a really good movie. Also, a movie I would love to see remade with today's graphics would be "Wolfen" by Streiber.

[needfulthings]

http://imageshack.com/a/img537/5613/2vEGRj.jpg

[allasorte]

I love that @Needfulthings. Is that a poster?

[needfulthings]

Japanese Program Booklet (full image)
http://imageshack.com/a/img540/2126/jj3TLV.jpg
as for a remake
IF IT AN'T BROKE DON'T.... FUCK WITH IT.

[needfulthings]

SAME HERE
http://imageshack.com/a/img913/4262/Zhn88a.jpg
SIGNED 1st EDITION (NOT WHITLEY STRIBER)
BUT WILL DAVID BOWIE DO?
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http://imageshack.com/a/img673/4869/4t4dhU.jpg

[allasorte]

I always enjoyed Strieber and felt he never got enough recognition for his works. Thanks for the great pics "Needfulthings"!!!

[allasorte]

So, I saw "Jupiter Ascending." I know it's not a horror movie, but I thought it was horror-ble. Doesn't that count then?

I wanted to thank "Needfulthings" for reminding me about "The Hunger." I watched it again after years of not seeing it for awhile, so thanks!

[needfulthings]

YOU'R WELCOME.
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[allasorte]

I saw The Asylum today from 2015. One word....poop.

I also saw "It Follows" and my thoughts about it. First, I fell in love with Annie at the beginning as she is exactly the type of woman I love and I have never seen a woman run so coordinately in high heels. That was truly impressive. I enjoyed the unique story, the visual cinematography of the film, I thought the acting was pretty well done for teenagers, and I enjoyed the suspense of it. I also loved the music as it seemed old-school and yet new. I really enjoyed when "it" showed up and the music didn't blare to make the viewer aware of "it's" existence. I really liked how seeing had no baring on believing as the friends stuck by without their eyes telling them anything. The "where is it now" feel was quite fun and nerve racking for the actors and the viewers.

I liked how the viewer didn't see or know everything, but at the same time, not knowing anything about "it" can have it's downfalls. I will say I didn't think the movie was terrifying, but had more of a creepy vibe. After the movie, I thought about the film. Can you imagine if something was following me and never ever stopped? Thinking about the outcome was more scarier then watching it. The aftermath of talking about it made it more terrifying then actually watching it. However, the one thing I didn't like about it was reading that someone stated the movie was a sexually transmitted haunting. Thinking of it that way makes it sound like a boring idea and having sex has dire consequences. In this movie it does, but I don't want to ruin what I enjoyed watching to think of it that way.

The bottom line is this. Better then most recent horror movies out there and I really enjoyed it. For once, a pretty damn good flick that I would watch again.

[allasorte]

Maybe somebody can help me here. Hint: needfulthings since he seems to have the most unique and amazing older horror collectibles I have seen :). I saw this movie a long time ago. I thought it was The Visitor(s) but it is not popping up on IMDB so I cannot remember the name of the damn film. It is about a haunted house. The great thing about the movie is that the antagonist or ghost if you will......is never seen in the film until the end for like 2 seconds only. It was a pretty good movie from what I remember from at least 20 years ago.

[needfulthings]

?
http://imageshack.com/a/img538/9767/3IpIyj.jpg

[allasorte]

@needfulthings. I really enjoyed The Others, but this movie I saw in the 1990's and found it in one of those old video stores. I'm guessing the movie I'm thinking about was from the 70's....maybe early 80's. If my guess is right, the title had the word starting with a later letter in the alphabet like "v" or "u." After The Hunger......I'm looking for this older movie to re-watch it. Thanks though.....I'm still looking and if I find it I'll be posting the title asap.

[allasorte]

Maybe somebody can help me here. Hint: needfulthings since he seems to have the most unique and amazing older horror collectibles I have seen :). I saw this movie a long time ago. I thought it was The Visitor(s) but it is not popping up on IMDB so I cannot remember the name of the damn film. It is about a haunted house. The great thing about the movie is that the antagonist or ghost if you will......is never seen in the film until the end for like 2 seconds only. It was a pretty good movie from what I remember from at least 20 years ago.

I'd have to watch this, but I think it is "The Visitors" 1988 aka "Besökarna" (original title) as to what I'm thinking the movie is "needfulthings"
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[needfulthings]

Maybe somebody can help me here. Hint: needfulthings since he seems to have the most unique and amazing older horror collectibles I have seen :). I saw this movie a long time ago. I thought it was The Visitor(s) but it is not popping up on IMDB so I cannot remember the name of the damn film. It is about a haunted house. The great thing about the movie is that the antagonist or ghost if you will......is never seen in the film until the end for like 2 seconds only. It was a pretty good movie from what I remember from at least 20 years ago.

I'd have to watch this, but I think it is "The Visitors" 1988 aka "Besökarna" (original title) as to what I'm thinking the movie is "needfulthings"
http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTc0ODY3MzA4NV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMjgzODgyMw@@._ V1_SY317_CR3,0,214,317_AL_.jpg

:wtf:"I HAVE NEVER SEEN IT"
DID I REALY JUST SAY THAT?:unsure:

[needfulthings]

A COUPLE OF MY GUITLY LITTLE PLEASURES.:evil:
http://imageshack.com/a/img537/3187/nOlnip.jpg
HORRORS OF SPIDER ISLAND AKA IT'S HOT IN PARADISE
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[Theli]

Hey no need to feel guilty! Us horror film fans have a high threshold for crap, as my collection will attest! :lol:

[needfulthings]

YOU MEAN LIKE THIS GEM?
http://imageshack.com/a/img673/842/AKLfRj.jpg

[Heather19]

Maybe somebody can help me here. Hint: needfulthings since he seems to have the most unique and amazing older horror collectibles I have seen :). I saw this movie a long time ago. I thought it was The Visitor(s) but it is not popping up on IMDB so I cannot remember the name of the damn film. It is about a haunted house. The great thing about the movie is that the antagonist or ghost if you will......is never seen in the film until the end for like 2 seconds only. It was a pretty good movie from what I remember from at least 20 years ago.

I'd have to watch this, but I think it is "The Visitors" 1988 aka "Besökarna" (original title) as to what I'm thinking the movie is "needfulthings"
http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTc0ODY3MzA4NV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMjgzODgyMw@@._ V1_SY317_CR3,0,214,317_AL_.jpg

Sounds interesting. Let me know how it is.

[allasorte]

Maybe somebody can help me here. Hint: needfulthings since he seems to have the most unique and amazing older horror collectibles I have seen :). I saw this movie a long time ago. I thought it was The Visitor(s) but it is not popping up on IMDB so I cannot remember the name of the damn film. It is about a haunted house. The great thing about the movie is that the antagonist or ghost if you will......is never seen in the film until the end for like 2 seconds only. It was a pretty good movie from what I remember from at least 20 years ago.

I'd have to watch this, but I think it is "The Visitors" 1988 aka "Besökarna" (original title) as to what I'm thinking the movie is "needfulthings"
http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTc0ODY3MzA4NV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMjgzODgyMw@@._ V1_SY317_CR3,0,214,317_AL_.jpg

Sounds interesting. Let me know how it is.
It has been decades since I have seen it. The trailer is on youtube.....it is pretty bad and English dubbed as I was looking for the movie. If I find it, watch it, I'll let you know. I know it's from Sweden.

[allasorte]

As for everyone's guilty pleasures, I have not seen them. Trying to find them online, will be a daunting task to stream. Plus they will probably be in 480i; hopefully, as older items can be in 360i.

[Theli]

YOU MEAN LIKE THIS GEM?
http://imageshack.com/a/img673/842/AKLfRj.jpg

I haven't seen it, but I'm sure that's exactly what I mean! :lol:

[needfulthings]

CLASSIS UNIVERSAL HORROR.
http://imageshack.com/a/img913/6568/fPEEF4.jpg

[needfulthings]

MEXICAN GUILTY PLEASURES.:emot-roflolmao:
http://imageshack.com/a/img540/5100/gFojlK.jpg http://imageshack.com/a/img538/3542/t4dUOg.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img540/2480/7pS5Sa.jpg http://imageshack.com/a/img537/6606/zbNty0.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img908/1152/ZSi0wk.jpg http://imageshack.com/a/img661/138/UBndvd.jpg

[allasorte]

Invasion of the Body Snatchers 1978: Not a happy ending :)
Night Breed Directors Cut 1990: Always loved this original idea.
Re-watched both and glad I did.

[needfulthings]

:evil:
http://imageshack.com/a/img661/4794/74YMnI.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img673/5806/hgtm6C.jpg

[Tommy]

ha! That's great Bruce! Brainiac is a riot :emot-roflolmao:

[Theli]

Just amazing, Bruce! Thanks for sharing.

[allasorte]

Like I've said before "Bruce aka needfulthings" always shows some amazing unique items from his collection. Love the Mummy figure.

If anyone here is into Japanese manga, this is one with amazing art (too good actually for a manga/comic) and there is a movie trilogy released of the first arc in English subbed or dubbed. Berserk. The Golden Arc. Three animation movies. Great story, graphic, violent, told well, great characters, and the last movie is NC-18. My favorite of all time thus far for this type of genre. I mentioned this because of the movies, and if anyone was interested and enjoyed the trilogy, you could continue reading it after the trilogy. You can read it online.....for free.

[Theli]

Used to read manga in high school, haven't really much since, though I did start up Hayao Miyazaki's Nausicaa: Valley of the Wind recently. I'd read through most of Berserk as it was translated, also have the orignal series on DVD. Amazing art. Part of the reason I lost interest in manga and anime is that the art became to streamlined, I like art with style, which Berserk had. Others that really stand out to me are Hayao Miyazaki, Katsuhiro Otomo and Yoshitaka Amano as well.

[killjoy72]

I've been meaning to read that one, allasorte. Great looking art. The sheer number of volumes (37?) is the only thing that has kept me away. I'll have to check out the films, and I honestly I never thought of searching out the manga online.

[Theli]

I've been meaning to read that one, allasorte. Great looking art. The sheer number of volumes (37?) is the only thing that has kept me away. I'll have to check out the films, and I honestly I never thought of searching out the manga online.

Films and series. The anime series rocked too.

[needfulthings]

I only have 1,2,5 & 6.
http://imageshack.com/a/img912/5143/bUYLh6.jpg

[Theli]

That's the one :lol:

[killjoy72]

Used to read manga in high school, haven't really much since, though I did start up Hayao Miyazaki's Nausicaa: Valley of the Wind recently. I'd read through most of Berserk as it was translated, also have the orignal series on DVD. Amazing art. Part of the reason I lost interest in manga and anime is that the art became to streamlined, I like art with style, which Berserk had. Others that really stand out to me are Hayao Miyazaki, Katsuhiro Otomo and Yoshitaka Amano as well.

I named my cat Nausicaa :smile:
Nice! Berserk is streaming. Watching part 1 tonight!

[needfulthings]

WHAT CAN I SAY? THE ART OF NAUSICA'A' (1984)
http://imageshack.com/a/img540/2263/8vs3p2.jpg

[Theli]

Good man Bruce! Your taste is impeccable!

[allasorte]

Used to read manga in high school, haven't really much since, though I did start up Hayao Miyazaki's Nausicaa: Valley of the Wind recently. I'd read through most of Berserk as it was translated, also have the orignal series on DVD. Amazing art. Part of the reason I lost interest in manga and anime is that the art became to streamlined, I like art with style, which Berserk had. Others that really stand out to me are Hayao Miyazaki, Katsuhiro Otomo and Yoshitaka Amano as well.

I named my cat Nausicaa :smile:
Nice! Berserk is streaming. Watching part 1 tonight!

I saw the anime of 27-30 episodes? And if you haven't touched the manga then it gives you the option to go beyond that since many people don't realize many anime are comic/manga first. What makes it great is simply watching this normal type of story unfold and then all of a sudden, "was that a monster?" Since they don't exist, as the viewer, it becomes "what is going on?" The problem is is that when you get to the last episode you will be....wtf?! The reissue of the 3 trilogy movies is shortened for sure, but it ends the arc the way the show series should have ended. The other problem I have is that the art work is too good. So it takes the creator a LONG time to do his work. You won't see a new issue for 6 months? I honestly fear that with such an amazing idea and story, he will die before it is finished. There are tons of forums online complaining about this and stating he needs help making it or he needs to sell it to get it finished. It started in 1990. 1990?!
I know this is a movie thread and I don't want to get too off topic. But from a horror perspective and there is a trilogy of the first arc, I figured it would fit in well here. I've talked about it before on the comic thread with some and if you know what is coming when watching movie 3, it is full blown horror all the way.
http://www.mangareader.net/96/berserk.html

[allasorte]

I've been meaning to read that one, allasorte. Great looking art. The sheer number of volumes (37?) is the only thing that has kept me away. I'll have to check out the films, and I honestly I never thought of searching out the manga online.
http://www.mangareader.net/96/berserk.html
I know it's kind of dickish to read things for free, but I'm not rich. I constantly will promote things and then buy something on blu ray if I love it. "Still Servant" knows exactly what I do for movies and certain TV shows and "Ricky" knows what I do for music. I was even able to find "Walking Dead" comic online up to date as well.