Full Dark, No Stars / Trade & Limited Editions

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

From SKMB:

I have been given permission to announce that Steve's next book titled FULL DARK, NO STARS, is a collection of 4 previously unpublished novellas and is expected to be released in November (possibly 9th, but that is subject to change). We will announce more details as they become available.

[Calla_Wolf]

From SKMB:

I have been given permission to announce that Steve's next book titled FULL DARK, NO STARS, is a collection of 4 previously unpublished novellas and is expected to be released in November (possibly 9th, but that is subject to change). We will announce more details as they become available.

AT LAST!!!!

Of all his styles and works, his novellas are, IMO, his sharpest pieces.
News of UtD didn't do much to raise my excitement levels
NOW I'm excited....better go find my missus :P

EXCELLENT

[biomieg]

I like this... a lot! :)

[Brice]

HELL YES!!!!! :excited:

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

NOW I'm excited....better go find my missus


Hope you found her. I'd hate to think you had to do anything on your own :rolleyes:

[jhanic]

:excited:

John

[frik]

Great!
Four Past Midnight is one of my favorite kingbooks ever.
Hope the upcoming book will be as good, if not better!

sk

[carlosdetweiller]

I like the novellas too. DIFFERENT SEASONS is my personal favorite.

[mae]

Interestingly, King has released a novella collection roughly every 10 years:

1982: Different Seasons
1990: Four Past Midnight
1999: Hearts in Atlantis
2010: Full Dark, No Stars

[biomieg]

I like the novellas too. DIFFERENT SEASONS is my personal favorite.

Mine as well!

[lophophoras]

:rock:

[SynysterSaint]

That's awesome! I can't wait for this collection. My favorite novella by him is The Mist, but that's only because it's the only one of King's I've read so far *waits for the pitchforks and mobs*

On a related note: which novella collection should I pick up first before Full Dark, No Stars is released?

[wizardsrainbow]

This is great news! Looking forward to it...but it is a long wait till November

[SkippyD023]

Great News!! I don't know if I can wait until November...

SynsterSaint - I would recommend Different Seasons, that is by far my favorite collection of Novella's. I am sure others will have their opinions as well.

[Brice]

That's awesome! I can't wait for this collection. My favorite novella by him is The Mist, but that's only because it's the only one of King's I've read so far *waits for the pitchforks and mobs*

On a related note: which novella collection should I pick up first before Full Dark, No Stars is released?

ALL OF THEM! Start with Different Seasons. :)

*sharpens his pitchfork's tines* :evil:

[Randall Flagg]

Great news. Can wait to read them.

[Nerak]

woo hoo...heads off to find out when Robert can get us an ARC! LOL

[flaggwalkstheline]

so now thats 3 books in the works by sai king? dt4.5, doctor sleep and now this

does he ever find time to sleep?:clap::scared:

[Nerak]

do you care if he sleeps? Who needs sleep when you have books to write!?!? :lol:

[mae]

so now thats 3 books in the works by sai king? dt4.5, doctor sleep and now this

does he ever find time to sleep?:clap::scared:

Well, five actually: http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?t=10038

[SynysterSaint]

Thanks SkippyD023 and Brice; I'll make sure to check out Different Seasons first.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Update from SKMB:

Steve has told me it's okay to say that one of the novellas is about Hemingford Home.

[nyy3723a]

Update from SKMB:

Steve has told me it's okay to say that one of the novellas is about Hemingford Home.

Holy Mother of God.

[Lenny]

Update from SKMB:

Steve has told me it's okay to say that one of the novellas is about Hemingford Home.

Hello everyone, long time lurker, first time poster.

Mr. Rabbit just made me get all light headed. Glad i was sitting down when i read that.

David thank you again for the Gunslinger book i ordered from you this week. Haven't slept since i ordered it. Can't wait to see it.

[lophophoras]

Update from SKMB:

Steve has told me it's okay to say that one of the novellas is about Hemingford Home.

This is very cool to hear!! It will be interesting to revisit Mother Abagail.

[Bev Vincent]

Or Ben Hanscom.

[frik]

I like the novellas too. DIFFERENT SEASONS is my personal favorite.

Mine as well!

Four Past Midnight.

sk

[jhanic]

Update from SKMB:

Steve has told me it's okay to say that one of the novellas is about Hemingford Home.

:clap:

John

[Randall Flagg]

Or Ben Hanscom.
<----------------Hmmm:orely:

[namelessnpoor]

A new book is always fun and exciting to look forward to. The fun of collecting the different forms and waiting to read the new stories !!

[Eric719691]

Going to have to find a way to purchase this book as I will be leaving the states this summer for a very extended trip.

[Patrick]

Update from SKMB:

Steve has told me it's okay to say that one of the novellas is about Hemingford Home.

Hello everyone, long time lurker, first time poster.

Mr. Rabbit just made me get all light headed. Glad i was sitting down when i read that.

David thank you again for the Gunslinger book i ordered from you this week. Haven't slept since i ordered it. Can't wait to see it.

Welcome out of the shadows and into the light here at TDT.com, Lenny! We're glad to have you. Now that you've come off the sidelines, please continue to join in. By the way, once you make a mere five posts, more member abilities will open to you.

- Patrick

Oh yeah, on topic:

1. Can't wait for this new book.

2. Count me in the DIFFERENT SEASONS camp. It was one of the first King books I read and it is still one of my favorites.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Here are the story titles and plot synopses for the stories in Full Dark, No Stars:

1922
The story opens with the confession of Wilfred James to the murder of his wife, Arlette, following their move to Hemingford, Nebraska onto land willed to Arlette by her father.

Big Driver
Mystery writer, Tess, has been supplementing her writing income for years by doing speaking engagements with no problems. But following a last-minute invitation to a book club 60 miles away, she takes a shortcut home with dire consequences.

Fair Extension
Harry Streeter, who is suffering from cancer, decides to make a deal with the devil but, as always, there is a price to pay.

A Good Marriage
Darcy Anderson learns more about her husband of over twenty years than she would have liked to know when she stumbles literally upon a box under a worktable in their garage.

[lophophoras]

:thumbsup:

[Lenny]

This is like being 8 years old again and your parents talking about Christmas :pullhair: November is a long time away.

[Dolan]

Here are the story titles and plot synopses for the stories in Full Dark, No Stars:

1922
The story opens with the confession of Wilfred James to the murder of his wife, Arlette, following their move to Hemingford, Nebraska onto land willed to Arlette by her father.

Big Driver
Mystery writer, Tess, has been supplementing her writing income for years by doing speaking engagements with no problems. But following a last-minute invitation to a book club 60 miles away, she takes a shortcut home with dire consequences.

Fair Extension
Harry Streeter, who is suffering from cancer, decides to make a deal with the devil but, as always, there is a price to pay.

A Good Marriage
Darcy Anderson learns more about her husband of over twenty years than she would have liked to know when she stumbles literally upon a box under a worktable in their garage.

AH-MAZING

[tippy4]

I didn't see a thread for this, so I thought I would start one for us collectors.

Anybody know if there will be a signing?

How about a signed/limited?

My gut tells me NO to both.

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/2985/9781439192566.jpg

[Dolan]

King will be at the New Yorker Festival next month - but he is only on a panel. He's not doing a signing or anything. I will keep my eyes open for any word of signings though. Maybe we can have a sleepover at my place like I did for the Harry, Carrie and Garp event. Karen was here for it!

That was fun :huglove:

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Anybody know if there will be a signing?
How about a signed/limited?
My gut tells me NO to both.


The mod at SKMB has already said no to both questions.

[Rahfa]

Anybody know if there will be a signing?
How about a signed/limited?
My gut tells me NO to both.


The mod at SKMB has already said no to both questions.

Wow...way to kill the thread.

(j/k...haha)

[Randall Flagg]

I'm going to merge this into the existing Full Dark No Stars thread.
I wish there were more exciting details......

[carlosdetweiller]

I don't have any details other than to say I have read the book and the stories are brilliantly written. I had a great time reading this book. The only thing that would have made it better would be to add another story or two. It was over too quickly.

[jhanic]

THAT I heartily agree with! Too short!

John

[Dolan]

I don't have any details other than to say I have read the book and the stories are brilliantly written. I had a great time reading this book. The only thing that would have made it better would be to add another story or two. It was over too quickly.

SOOOOooooooooooo jealous!!!! :excited:

[frik]

I like the novellas too. DIFFERENT SEASONS is my personal favorite.

Four Past Midnight is mine.

sk

Oops - this is an old thread - mentioned this already a couple of times...:blush:

[Ari_Racing]

I don't have any details other than to say I have read the book and the stories are brilliantly written. I had a great time reading this book. The only thing that would have made it better would be to add another story or two. It was over too quickly.

I couldn't agree more. It was really hard for me to choose which one is better than the other.

Since one of the stories is actually a short story instead of a short novel, I guess one more story could have been included in the book.

[herbertwest]

I've only read the afterword so far.. and i am impatient to start it !

[frik]

I won't be able to read this book for at least half a year. Still have to begin reading Under the Dome. :arg:
I'm going for my teaching certificate -English- and am doing quite a bit of reading - but no King.
Still, the books will be there, waiting on the shelf...sweet anticipation....

sk

[Ari_Racing]

Cemetery Dance Publications is very pleased to announce we are publishing a Deluxe Special Edition of Stephen King's chilling new collection of novellas!

http://www.cemeterydance.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/king05LIMITED.jpg

The tales in Full Dark, No Stars are bleak, featuring some of the darkest moments of any King work in recent memory, and we've brought together a team of five acclaimed artists to create nearly twenty exclusive illustrations for our edition including black and white pieces and glossy color tip-ins:

Full-color front and back cover artwork by Tomislav Tikulin
Color and B&W artwork for "1922" by Glenn Chadbourne
Color and B&W artwork for "Big Driver" by Jill Bauman
Color and B&W artwork for "Fair Extension" by Alan M. Clark
Color and B&W artwork for "A Good Marriage" by Vincent Chong

This fine collectible volume will be published in three editions printed in two colors on a high-quality paper, and the oversized and slipcased Collector's Gift Edition will be issued with the smallest print run of any Stephen King Gift Edition since we published From a Buick 8 in 2002. As many collectors know, that was one of the rare Stephen King Gift Editions to sell out before publication and to go up in value significantly over the years.

Secretly rolling at the printer since September and on schedule to ship at the end of the year, the Cemetery Dance Deluxe Special Edition of Full Dark, No Stars by Stephen King will be the perfect addition to any collection!

This deluxe special edition — which WILL NOT be sold in stores — is being printed in extremely low print runs and we don't expect any of the three editions to last long, so visit our website for more information or to place your order! There will be NO second printings and our edition will NOT be sold to Amazon or the other large online booksellers. Even if they take orders for the book, as they've tried with our other recent Limited Edition books by Stephen King, we won't be able to fill those orders due to the extremely small print run for this special edition!

I'm about to place my order. :)

[Randall Flagg]

Thanks for the tip. I haven't received an email yet, but I placed an order.
$56 to ship 2 books! Ouch.

[Ari_Racing]

Order placed. :)
1 Gift & 1 S/L

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

I got the lettered and numbered. Not interested in the gift edition.

[Sam]

I just ordered the S/L myself.

[Ari_Racing]

Mods, I made a mistake in the title of the thread. Can anyone fix it (I only mentioned the Gift edition).

Thanks!

[WeDealInLead]

Order placed. :)
1 Gift & 1 S/L

Ditto. With SOD II s/l I ordered on Saturday and this, I'm on VERY thin ice with my wife.

[ELazansky]

WOOHOO! - got my order in for a signed limited copy!

[Ari_Racing]

Samples of artwork:

Glenn Chadbourne for "1922":

http://www.cemeterydance.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/king051922A.jpg

http://www.cemeterydance.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/king051922B.jpg

Jill Bauman for "Big Driver":

http://www.cemeterydance.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/king05bigA.jpg

http://www.cemeterydance.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/king05bigB.jpg


Alan Clark for "Fair Extension":

http://www.cemeterydance.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/king05fairA.jpg

http://www.cemeterydance.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/king05fairB.jpg

Vincent Chong for "A good Marriage":

http://www.cemeterydance.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/king05goodA.jpg

http://www.cemeterydance.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/king05goodB.jpg

[ELazansky]

Got my s/l order in as well!

[Tito_Villa]

Wow i am very excited by this, just ordered a gift and limited edition! Love that there are 5 different artists working on this too!

[Randall Flagg]

Mods, I made a mistake in the title of the thread. Can anyone fix it (I only mentioned the Gift edition).

Thanks!
Done.

[Randall Flagg]

Samples of artwork:

Glenn Chadbourne for "1922":

http://www.cemeterydance.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/king051922A.jpg

http://www.cemeterydance.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/king051922B.jpg

Jill Bauman for "Big Driver":

http://www.cemeterydance.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/king05bigA.jpg

http://www.cemeterydance.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/king05bigB.jpg


Alan Clark for "Fair Extension":

http://www.cemeterydance.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/king05fairA.jpg

http://www.cemeterydance.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/king05fairB.jpg

Vincent Chong for "A good Marriage":

http://www.cemeterydance.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/king05goodA.jpg

http://www.cemeterydance.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/king05goodB.jpg
Awesome artwork.

[Tito_Villa]

I love the fact that there is 5 artists!

[Ari_Racing]

The cover artwork is AWESOME!

[Nerak]

they haven't announced it yet! LOL That's why it's selling out so fast! They were sending out "head's up" to certain people! I got one this morning. But since I am broke, I am going to have to settle for the trade that I already paid for.

[jhanic]

Got a Gift and s/l. Love to get a lettered, but the price is out of my range.

John

[WeDealInLead]

Lettered is definitely pricey and the extras aren't really that special IMHO.

[turtlex]

Gift and S/L for me, too!!

Can't wait ! :D

[Randall Flagg]

If one can afford it, I say buy the 1/52 lettered and the 1/750. Sadly I can't justify the $1.5K (to my wife:orely: ), but to be one of only 52 owners of a King book is cool!

[turtlex]

Yeah, I wish I could get the lettered edition, but there's no way. I'm taking money out of savings just for the Gift and S/L.

Wonder how long until each are sold out?

[super sam]

Will have to buy the S/L on the secondary market.
I think the price is going to be around $450-$500???

[Tito_Villa]

I think its alot better priced than the Blockade Billy S/L!

[e_taylor]

Want want want.... no money :(

[Randall Flagg]

Will have to buy the S/L on the secondary market.
I think the price is going to be around $450-$500???
Are they sold out yet?

[super sam]

Will have to buy the S/L on the secondary market.
I think the price is going to be around $450-$500???
Are they sold out yet?

No, but i don´t have the funds right now to place an order.

[ELazansky]

Not sold out yet - this is the first time I have been able to buy a King s/l at publication - I'm very happy.

[nyy3723a]

I got my orer in the S/L. Unsure on a gift, if I'm getting a trade to read, what's the point?

[mae]

Just the regular trade edition for me.

[BigCoffinHunter]

Hopefully they'll be able to accomodate everyone who places an order. I remember back when they did From a Buick 8 they had to call some people after the fact to let them know they were already sold out and wouldn't be able to fulfill the order. Considering that the official announcement went out through King's mailing list, I'm thinking this one will go pretty quick.

[Ari_Racing]

Illustration's thread created in the respective forum.

[turtlex]

Illustration's thread created in the respective forum.

Wow! You are fast!!!
:thumbsup:

[Randall Flagg]

Illustration's thread created in the respective forum.
Man, you are fast!!

[BigCoffinHunter]

Lettered is definitely pricey and the extras aren't really that special IMHO.

Keep in mind that the descriptions of the Lettereds don't usually do the final product justice. I mean, it's no Lettered Regulators, but a Cemetery Dance Lettered is usually a very nice product, particularly when it's one of the $750.00+ Lettereds (Devil's Wine, From a Buick 8, Secretary of Dreams, etc.)

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

I got my orer in the S/L. Unsure on a gift, if I'm getting a trade to read, what's the point?

The gift edition is a reprint. The first edition will be the Scribner one.

[Dolan]

I wish King would go with other publishing houses other than CD. I wonder if he has some sort of contract with them for x number of books. Doesn't seem like something he would normally do but with all of the publishers out there, it just seems like this one is getting all of the cake.

[BigCoffinHunter]

I got my orer in the S/L. Unsure on a gift, if I'm getting a trade to read, what's the point?

The gift edition is a reprint. The first edition will be the Scribner one.

Would have to get confirmation from Mindy, but the book has been at the printer since September and may be considered the first edition, regardless of the fact that it will be arriving in December. If I recall correctly, Grant's edition of Black House did not arrive until months after the trade (due to production delays) but because they had copies finished before the trade edition release, they were still able to claim the Black House S/L as the first edition.

[Ari_Racing]

I don't think that King is "closed" to other offerings from different publishers. After all, in the last years several other publishers sold limited editions of King books.

[ELazansky]

I wonder if Hodder is going to also do a UK s/l edition...

[mae]

There's a slightly different dust jacket too:

http://www.cemeterydance.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/king05GIFT.jpg

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

I got my orer in the S/L. Unsure on a gift, if I'm getting a trade to read, what's the point?

The gift edition is a reprint. The first edition will be the Scribner one.

Would have to get confirmation from Mindy, but the book has been at the printer since September and may be considered the first edition, regardless of the fact that it will be arriving in December.


Scribner's FDNS has been at the printer since August. The first edition is the one published first, and Scribner's will be published long before CD's.

[WeDealInLead]

It would be interesting to know the hour-to-hour breakdown of sales.

[Sir_Boomme]

well, I should get the #'d and the gift with my lifetime membership...
Thankyou CD for publishing this King limited through CD.

I would get the lettered... but, I've got so much invested in CD so far, with the SOD 2 ltr'd, necon artist & ltr'd, century's best ltr'd, riding the bullet's...
I really need to get some of these and get caught up before I start adding more.

bigger yet is the fact this month I just spent 13,000.00 on a refi/paydown on the house (went from a 30 year to 15 year), have had about 2000.00 worth of medical tests done and have about 1500.00 more to get done, made some significant purchases for upgrading my DJ business, just got back from an expensive Hawaiian vacation.... it's really bad timing for me also.

still almost want to pull the trigger on the lettered... but between the backlogs and the expensive month... probably going to practice some self control... for once.

[BigCoffinHunter]

I got my orer in the S/L. Unsure on a gift, if I'm getting a trade to read, what's the point?

The gift edition is a reprint. The first edition will be the Scribner one.

Would have to get confirmation from Mindy, but the book has been at the printer since September and may be considered the first edition, regardless of the fact that it will be arriving in December.


Scribner's FDNS has been at the printer since August. The first edition is the one published first, and Scribner's will be published long before CD's.

As I said, I have no knowledge as to who would be claiming the first edition. I just remember Grant's Black House being the "First Edition" even though it was not released until the following year (2002 versus 2001 for the trade edition).

[Nerak]

I wish King would go with other publishing houses other than CD. I wonder if he has some sort of contract with them for x number of books. Doesn't seem like something he would normally do but with all of the publishers out there, it just seems like this one is getting all of the cake.

I have the feeling that we just don't have our hand held up high enough to let him know that we are still here! LOL

[ICry4Oy]

If I were going to spend $750 or $1,5000 on a book, Sai King himself had better bring it to my house.

[Randall Flagg]

If I were going to spend $750 or $1,5000 on a book, Sai King himself had better bring it to my house.
Well, that's probably not going to happen:ninja:


YouTube - Home Delivery

[ICry4Oy]

If I were going to spend $750 or $1,5000 on a book, Sai King himself had better bring it to my house.
Well, that's probably not going to happen:ninja:




So I guess a blowjob would be out of the question?:unsure:

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

If I were going to spend $750 or $1,5000 on a book, Sai King himself had better bring it to my house.

I'd pay more than that for his grocery list :)

[shnnrc01]

well, i ordered a signed and gift.hope they come for x-mas!!

[gsvec]

Just placed my order for a S/L, so they're not sold out yet.

[Brian James Freeman]

Sorry, just now getting around to update everyone on the boards -- the Lettered Edition is sold out!

[Tito_Villa]

Sorry, just now getting around to update everyone on the boards -- the Lettered Edition is sold out!

Cool how is the Signed Limited selling???

[turtlex]

Sorry, just now getting around to update everyone on the boards -- the Lettered Edition is sold out!

Lettered sold out.

[herbertwest]

Very nice book! Although i wont be buying one...

[Brian James Freeman]

Scribner's will be the first edition since their edition will be out in November. Ours won't be ready to ship until December.

best wishes,
Brian Freeman
brianfreeman@cemeterydance.com
http://www.CemeteryDance.com

[Sir_Boomme]

If I were going to spend $750 or $1,5000 on a book, Sai King himself had better bring it to my house.
Well, that's probably not going to happen:ninja:




So I guess a blowjob would be out of the question?:unsure:

ask me really nice and tell me I have a purty mouth... you never know...:nana:JKing


whew... so glad the lettered is sold out... I'm was really starting to breakdown ...

adicktion is not a purty thing (pun relates to both the above comments)

[Patrick]

I place my order for the S/L about three hours ago.

Looking forward to receiving this new book around New Year's. CD puts out a quality product. :)

[frik]

Got my order in early this morning - Central European Time - when most of you were still in bed sound asleep. I didn't have to think twice and ordered the gift, numbered and lettered editions.
I've never regret the King limiteds I ordered - only the ones I didn't order!

sk

[ICry4Oy]

Serious question after reading the CD webpage about this book. When they say these "will only increase in value", do they mean in a Franklin Mint/Bradford Exchange kind of way?

[frik]

Ordered - all three states! :excited:

sk

[Brian James Freeman]

Serious question after reading the CD webpage about this book. When they say these "will only increase in value", do they mean in a Franklin Mint/Bradford Exchange kind of way?

I'm fairly sure we don't say they "will only increase in value" about ANY book we publish, but if you look at the current prices for our edition of FROM A BUICK 8 on ABE, you'll see they are a fair bit more than the original issue price.

We do say this in reference to the BUICK 8 Gift Edition:

"As many collectors know, that was one of the rare Stephen King Gift Editions to sell out before publication and to go up in value significantly over the years."

Right now, on ABE, the three least expensive copies of that Gift Edition are:

US$ 70.03 -- for a library copy
US$ 130.00 -- for a copy missing its slipcase
US$ 250.00 -- for the first copy that has the slipcase and is in fine condition

If there have been other SK Gift Editions that have sold out pre-publication and gone up in value, please let me know so I can update that text. Thanks!

Best wishes,
Brian Freeman
brianfreeman@cemeterydance.com
http://www.CemeteryDance.com

[jhanic]

Brian, ABE is not a good indication of what a book sells for because it only shows the asking price. I usually offer less than what the seller's price is for an item and often have my offer accepted. No where does this show.

There's one on eBay that sold for $125. That's all I've been able to find there.

http://completed.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=%22stephen+king%22+from+a+buick+8+gift&_sacat=0&_sop=3&LH_PrefLoc=2&_dmpt=US_Fiction_Books&LH_Complete=1&_odkw=%22stephen+king%22+from+a+buick+8&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313

John

[ICry4Oy]

Serious question after reading the CD webpage about this book. When they say these "will only increase in value", do they mean in a Franklin Mint/Bradford Exchange kind of way?

I'm fairly sure we don't say they "will only increase in value" about ANY book we publish, but if you look at the current prices for our edition of FROM A BUICK 8 on ABE, you'll see they are a fair bit more than the original issue price.

We do say this in reference to the BUICK 8 Gift Edition:

"As many collectors know, that was one of the rare Stephen King Gift Editions to sell out before publication and to go up in value significantly over the years."

Right now, on ABE, the three least expensive copies of that Gift Edition are:

US$ 70.03 -- for a library copy
US$ 130.00 -- for a copy missing its slipcase
US$ 250.00 -- for the first copy that has the slipcase and is in fine condition

If there have been other SK Gift Editions that have sold out pre-publication and gone up in value, please let me know so I can update that text. Thanks!

Best wishes,
Brian Freeman
brianfreeman@cemeterydance.com
http://www.CemeteryDance.com


Yeah, that's it! I got the wording wrong but that was what I was talking about. It just seems like I get at least one or two CD emails every week - not just Stephen King books - touting some "collector's edition" or another. With that many it just seems a little "Franklin-minty".:cyclops: jmho

[Brian James Freeman]

For those who were asking, I don't think the Limited Edition page is going to be around tomorrow, if you know what I mean. ;)

Thanks to everyone who already ordered!

Best wishes,
Brian Freeman
brianfreeman@cemeterydance.com
http://www.CemeteryDance.com

[Randall Flagg]

Thanks to Brian for coming here several times today to communicate with our members. I imagine things are quite hectic at CD today, and it says a lot about Brian, and perhaps a lot about our members that he comes here and addresses comments, questions and complaints.

Thanks again to Brian.

[jhanic]

I agree wholeheartedly! Thanks VERY much, Brian.

John

[Patrick]

Thanks to Brian for coming here several times today to communicate with our members. I imagine things are quite hectic at CD today, and it says a lot about Brian, and perhaps a lot about our members that he comes here and addresses comments, questions and complaints.

Thanks again to Brian.

I agree wholeheartedly!

On a related note, I emailed Mindy this morning, which must be very busy for her too, and she replied within minutes. :thumbsup:

- Patrick

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Yes, thanks for all the updates Brian. Now... get back to work! :)

[e_taylor]

Thanks to Brian for coming here several times today to communicate with our members. I imagine things are quite hectic at CD today, and it says a lot about Brian, and perhaps a lot about our members that he comes here and addresses comments, questions and complaints.

Thanks again to Brian.

I agree. I've not been a direct CD supporter for quite a while now. But with the increased communication Brian has given on these boards and the apparently turn around in business practices, I'd consider order direct again... some day.

[Ari_Racing]

When, years ago, I started considering buying Gift editions, the first one I pointed my guns on was "Desperation", which I was able to buy at amazon.com

The next one was From a Buick 8, for which I gotta thank Rusty (namelessport), who pointed out one for me at a very good price.

Those two books were (both editions are simply awesome) the reason I become a collector.

So there's no chance I'd not buy this book. :)

[Brian James Freeman]

[quote=BrianFreeman;559014][quote=Mr. Munshun;558995]Yeah, that's it! I got the wording wrong but that was what I was talking about. It just seems like I get at least one or two CD emails every week - not just Stephen King books - touting some "collector's edition" or another. With that many it just seems a little "Franklin-minty".:cyclops: jmho

"Franklin-minty" :rofl: I love it!

I will never guess at what a book may or may not be worth in the long-term because I think it's foolish to do so -- who knows what the future might hold --- but I think a lot of people buy these books for a variety of reasons including a lot of general readers who just like hardcover books.

We've had several books sell out VERY quickly this year, and obviously that doesn't mean they'll go up in value, but it seems like a good start if you're a collector who likes to discuss that part of collecting. Better than if they take months or years to sell, right? :)

(Some of the books that have sold out quickly are The Passage by Justin Cronin, the signed edition of Pork Pie Hat by Peter Straub, The Secret Backs of Things by Christopher Golden, Bone Soup by TM Wright, and Four Rode Out by Tim Curran, Brian Keene, Tim Lebbon, and Steve Vernon. Those all sold out in anywhere from 4 hours to one week.)

And now, yes, I'd better get back to work! It's been a long couple of weeks. :)

Best wishes,
Brian Freeman
brianfreeman@cemeterydance.com
http://www.CemeteryDance.com

[ur2ndbiggestfan]

Ordered the Gift and Limited Editions late, because I had to work and I'm probably the only person in the universe without a cell phone or Twitter or any of that sort of thing. My order went through, so I hope the Limited hasn't sold out yet. $47 postage! Does the term 'highway robbery' mean anything to anybody?

[WeDealInLead]

Ordered the Gift and Limited Editions late, because I had to work and I'm probably the only person in the universe without a cell phone or Twitter or any of that sort of thing. My order went through, so I hope the Limited hasn't sold out yet. $47 postage! Does the term 'highway robbery' mean anything to anybody?

You're not the only one.

I remembered the email I received a few days ago saying there will be a new limited edition announced on Tuesday. I checked my email as soon as I woke up and there it was.

I'm sure Mr. Freeman would've told us it's sold out if it were.

[Dolan]

If I were going to spend $750 or $1,5000 on a book, Sai King himself had better bring it to my house.
Well, that's probably not going to happen:ninja:




So I guess a blowjob would be out of the question?:unsure:

:lol::lol:

[Brian James Freeman]

When, years ago, I started considering buying Gift editions, the first one I pointed my guns on was "Desperation"

Desperation and Insomnia were the first two Gift Editions I ever purchased and I was hooked! :)

Best,
Brian

[lophophoras]

Got mine ordered. I am glad to see a limited being done for this one!!

:rock:

[turtlex]

Add my thanks to Brian for all the updates and visits today! Very cool of you.

Congrats, frik, you scored a lettered edition, yes?!? :thumbsup:

[demorgan]

Man, king has a way of eating at you for ignoring a signed edition of his...damn you, I waited around all day..finally, I just couldnt wait anymore..had to get one. I figured, I might as well get it now before my baby girl gets here in Jan.

It seems that CD has been"on the ball" lately.

[tippy4]

Brian...what % of the S/L is sold out?

By the way, thumbs up on getting this book into production before announcing it. :thumbsup:

[Brian James Freeman]

Thanks to everyone who has ordered and for the kind words!

We are down to our last 40 copies of the Signed Limited Edition:

http://www.cemeterydance.com/page/CDP/PROD/king05b

Best wishes,
Brian Freeman
brianfreeman@cemeterydance.com
http://www.CemeteryDance.com

[Patrick]

Wow, all signed editions may sell out in the first 24 hours. Impressive.

[Brian James Freeman]

Less than 10 of the Limited Edition left!

[jhanic]

Simply amazing!

John

[tippy4]

Brian, What is the approximate size of the book.

I think I read that it is "oversized".

Are we talking SOD oversized or FaB8 oversized?

[Brian James Freeman]

Brian, What is the approximate size of the book.

I think I read that it is "oversized".

Are we talking SOD oversized or FaB8 oversized?

7X10 and 416 pages (including the front matter), so almost exactly the same size as FaB8!

Brian

[tippy4]

Good, because SoD is one of the few King LE's that will not fit on my shelf (same with Eyes of the Dragon and 'Salem's Lot).

[Brian James Freeman]

Limited Edition is now sold out!

Best wishes,
Brian Freeman
brianfreeman@cemeterydance.com
http://www.CemeteryDance.com

[east-tennessee]

Amazing:onfire:
I'm glad I ordered one earlier today.
Congrats CD.......:excited:

[tippy4]

Brian, thanks for all the info.

I am going to put you on the spot for a minute regarding the shipping fee. $56 to ship two books is quite high. If the book is almost the same size as FaB8, why are you charging so much for shipping?

If they were shipped across the U.S.A (say from MD to CA) via UPS Ground, at an estimated weight of 15 lbs combined for a gift edition and a S/L edition, insured for $425, Shipping would run about $30. Figure $6 for a box, foam peanuts, and bubble wrap (shipping supplies actually would run less than that as I assume CD buys them in bulk).

So, for sake of this argument, let's assume a cost to CD of $36 to cover shipping and shipping supplies. That leaves $20 extra CD is charging.

Now, I know books do not pack themselves, but $20 seems like an excessive handling fee. How do you justify that?

Yes, the shipping fee was upfront, and I was aware of it when I made the purchase, but I came away from it with a bad taste in my mouth. I am of the opinion that a shipping fee should cover the fee paid to the carrier (UPS, FEDEX, USPS, ETC.) plus the cost of shipping supplies (box, tape, padding, etc.).

"Handling fees" tend to rub me the wrong way.

[Sam]

I paid $35 shipping for just the one book.

[turtlex]

Published in three states:

Slipcased Oversized Hardcover Gift Edition of only 1,750 copies printed in two colors with two color hot foil stamping and embossed endpapers ($75)


Traycased Oversized Hardcover Signed Limited Edition of only 750 copies printed in two colors and bound in leather with two color hot foil stamping, a satin ribbon page marker, and embossed endpapers, signed by Stephen King ($350)


Oversized Signed Hardcover Lettered Edition of only 52 copies printed in two colors and bound in two different fine materials with gilded page edges and a satin ribbon page marker, and protected in a custom deluxe traycase, signed by Stephen King and all of the artists


Was the lettered edition $1200? Looks like the cost was cut off over at CD.

[e_taylor]

Published in three states:

Slipcased Oversized Hardcover Gift Edition of only 1,750 copies printed in two colors with two color hot foil stamping and embossed endpapers ($75)


Traycased Oversized Hardcover Signed Limited Edition of only 750 copies printed in two colors and bound in leather with two color hot foil stamping, a satin ribbon page marker, and embossed endpapers, signed by Stephen King ($350)


Oversized Signed Hardcover Lettered Edition of only 52 copies printed in two colors and bound in two different fine materials with gilded page edges and a satin ribbon page marker, and protected in a custom deluxe traycase, signed by Stephen King and all of the artists


Was the lettered edition $1200? Looks like the cost was cut off over at CD.

It was $1500.

[turtlex]

:thumbsup: Thanks, Eric!! :cowboy:

Updated For Future Reference :

Full Dark, No Stars - Editions Published by Cemetery Dance in three states:

Slipcased Oversized Hardcover Gift Edition of only 1,750 copies printed in two colors with two color hot foil stamping and embossed endpapers ( $75 )


Traycased Oversized Hardcover Signed Limited Edition of only 750 copies printed in two colors and bound in leather with two color hot foil stamping, a satin ribbon page marker, and embossed endpapers, signed by Stephen King ( $350 )


Oversized Signed Hardcover Lettered Edition of only 52 copies printed in two colors and bound in two different fine materials with gilded page edges and a satin ribbon page marker, and protected in a custom deluxe traycase, signed by Stephen King and all of the artists ( $1500 )

[Rahfa]

I paid $35 shipping for just the one book.

Not that I'm one to defend CD, but shipping insured Priority Mail w/delivery confirmation costs abt. $20 in a flat rate box that is probably too small for this book. So, a cost of approx. $30-$35 isn't totally off the mark...still too high, but not crazily so.

However, $56 for two books doesn't make sense...the cost doesn't climb that much for the box, or insurance, once you go above a certain point...it's just a bigger box, but it would still cost $35 or so....so effectively charging double shipping does seem like a money grab.

[Brian James Freeman]

Hi everyone!

Good morning! Yesterday was a long day. :)

To answer the question about the shipping, one of the things we've discussed in the other thread is that Cemetery Dance is trying to do a better job of planning and looking at the long-term, and not making some mistakes we used to make, which hurt our business.

In the past, like with The Secretary of Dreams, we just "went with our gut" when we assigned shipping prices, and in the end, we ended up eating a lot of costs.

I know some people don't feel they should pay for a company's cost of doing business, but if we're to be smart about our schedule and keep things rolling, we can't afford to lose money anywhere on purpose. It's one of the reasons we simply don't deal with Amazon in most cases these days. They want us to lose money to do business with them on most books, and we won't do that.

We've done a really good job this year of catching-up on older preorders and also publishing some surprise new releases, as our Recent Releases page will attest to:

http://www.cemeterydance.com/page/CDP/CTGY/RECENT

Part of that is because we've started really crunching the numbers and making smarter decisions about what we're buying and what we're charging. There's a lot more to come in the way of older books (we're almost there!) and also new surprises, and we can't afford to lose money on purpose if we want to publish 25 to 30 new books a year.

In this case, we had the costs from starting to ship The Secretary of Dreams (Volume 2) to use for comparison when planning what shipping Full Dark, No Stars would cost us. We sat down with our accountant and our UPS rep, and when it came time to assign shipping costs we had to account for the additional labor, custom-made boxes, other packing materials, insurance on the shipments, the cost of each shipment, leasing the additional warehouse space, and other factors.

At the end of the day, it was pretty shocking how much cost we were eating on some of the other big shipments like this. I know folks in the other thread keep saying, "I wish Cemetery Dance would act like a real business!" Well, this is part of us being a "real" business. We looked at our costs and tried to find the best way to make sure those costs were covered because every time we eat thousands of dollars on shipping, that's money that doesn't go to the printers or into the budget for a title that's in production. We're trying to be smarter about all elements of our business because we simply refuse to make the mistakes we made in the past, which hampered our ability to get business done.

We're a small business, with just four full-time employees who are here because they love the job, and we're still learning things, even twenty-two years after the company was founded in Richard's college apartment. We're going to keep learning, and hopefully continue to be a better and better publisher. We've published more than 200 books and we plan on being around to publish 200 more. But to do that, especially in the current economy when most small presses are going belly-up or not publishing anything, means we have to be careful and smart about the books we buy and what we charge for them, etc.

We do hear your concerns and we thank you for the thoughtful way you posed your question. We always appreciate feedback, and I hope this information was helpful.

Best wishes,
Brian Freeman
brianfreeman@cemeterydance.com
http://www.CemeteryDance.com

[wizardsrainbow]

I guess I am lucky that I work the night shift. By pure accident I checked my Betts email before trying to sleep and saw the offering. So I ended up not sleeping!

My shift about to end,only got 2 1/2 hrs of sleep yesterday.

[Randall Flagg]

I thought (initially) the shipping was high, but then I recalled how just last week I shipped a laptop computer with spare battery to Florida (from California). I quoted $15 in the ebay ad for S&H. Mistake on my part. It was twice that just for shipping, and I was fortunate to have a spare wine shipping box and materials to package the comp in safely. Labor was of course free.:P

[turtlex]

I don't mind paying a little extra for a properly shipped item, packaged so that the book doesn't get damaged.

Remember the limited UTD from the UK ?!? How many of us all got books with dings and bent corners because the packaging was substandard?

Honestly, I was surprised at how much shipping was at CD for the books when I checked out - but, guarantee me a pristine book, and I'll be okay with it. ( and I never considered that special, custom-sized boxes had to be ordered )

Thanks for the info, Brian. I can't wait to get my books! :nana:

[herbertwest]

Scribner's will be the first edition since their edition will be out in November. Ours won't be ready to ship until December.

best wishes,
Brian Freeman
brianfreeman@cemeterydance.com
http://www.CemeteryDance.com

Hi Brian,

Is it possible to know how many illustrations will be in FD, NS?
And in the final book of RIDING THE BULLET?

J.

[Brian James Freeman]

Hi Brian,

Is it possible to know how many illustrations will be in FD, NS?
And in the final book of RIDING THE BULLET?

J.

Full Dark, No Stars has sixteen pieces: 12 B&W printed in the book and 4 color glossy pieces that are hand-tipped.

Riding the Bullet has three color glossy pieces by Alan M. Clark that are hand-tipped into the novella section. Bernie Wrightson's art gallery on the movie side has 13 drawings and sketches.

By the way, many thanks to the person who pointed out I was missing the price on the one product page. I actually had several versions of each page ready, one for the announcement, one for when an edition sold out, etc, and I forgot to fill the price in when I was copying and pasting.

If you ever see something like that, please feel free to let me know. It helps me a lot, of course, and also all of the other customers who might have the same question but not think to ask.

best wishes,
Brian Freeman
brianfreeman@cemeterydance.com
http://www.CemeteryDance.com

[turtlex]

:D You're very welcome re. the missing price on the Lettered Edition.

I didn't know if you left the price off the listing on purpose or not, and I wanted to capture the original prices for the members here.

[herbertwest]

thanks for your answer Brian.

[alinda]

:ninja:i ONLY WISH i HAD ANY $ FOR BOOKS JUST NOW, ALL i HAVE ARE MEDICAL BILLS . :(

[divemaster]

Limited Edition is now sold out!

Best wishes,
Brian Freeman
brianfreeman@cemeterydance.com
http://www.CemeteryDance.com

Wow, I placed my order for the Signed/Limited at 10:09 PM and Brian's post saying it was sold out came at 10:41. Guess I barely slipped in under the wire!

[LostAlivE]

Brian I am so glad you started posting here. Since you have been I can see a lot more positive attitude toward CD than in the past. It is so refreshing.
The new book looks like it is going to be another outstanding job by all of you at CD.
Thank you Brian.

[Pasiuk57]

Brian
GREAT Info-all the positive information is great to read.

[Brian James Freeman]

Thanks, guys! Very much appreciated. There is a lot of news to come on this and some other projects, too, which I'll post over the Cemetery Dance thread as I have it.

By the way, we've gone ahead and taken down the Waiting Lists for the signed editions. So many people had already signed up that it seemed silly to have the lists -- we felt like we were just giving people false hope. If there are any cancellations, we'll let those on the Waiting Lists know first, but there are definitely more than enough people on there if any copies become available.

Best wishes,
Brian Freeman
brianfreeman@cemeterydance.com
http://www.CemeteryDance.com

[turtlex]

Brian - Have the Gift Editions sold out?

[Brian James Freeman]

Brian - Have the Gift Editions sold out?

We had a great response to the Gift Edition during the first 24 hours it was available and it's now more than 50% sold out. It took months to reach this point with From A Buick 8, so I think there's a good chance this sells out pre-publication.

Best wishes,
Brian Freeman
brianfreeman@cemeterydance.com
http://www.CemeteryDance.com

[turtlex]

Brian - Have the Gift Editions sold out?

We had a great response to the Gift Edition during the first 24 hours it was available and it's now more than 50% sold out. It took months to reach this point with From A Buick 8, so I think there's a good chance this sells out pre-publication.

Best wishes,
Brian Freeman
brianfreeman@cemeterydance.com
http://www.CemeteryDance.com

Excellent, thanks!

[jhanic]

WOW!!

John

[herbertwest]

WOW²

[demorgan]

Seems that CD is the comeback kid this year....keep it up.


What is the estimated ship date for the s/l ?

[ur2ndbiggestfan]

I just realized I could have afforded the lettered edition, but I couldn't swing the shipping cost.

[WeDealInLead]

Irony?

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

It's 3 x the price to ship to Europe, so stop winging about shipping costs :P

[Randall Flagg]

Scribner's will be the first edition since their edition will be out in November. Ours won't be ready to ship until December.

best wishes,
Brian Freeman
brianfreeman@cemeterydance.com
http://www.CemeteryDance.com


Seems that CD is the comeback kid this year....keep it up.


What is the estimated ship date for the s/l ?
Looks like December for the Gift, possibly the S/L too.

[ur2ndbiggestfan]

It's 3 x the price to ship to Europe, so stop winging about shipping costs :P

I know, and I have to pay the shipping costs from the UK to the USA every time I buy one of those fantastic proofs of yours. I guess we are in a Postal Service wins, we lose situation here, but that's OK, as long as we all keep the economy rolling along by sending our money here, there and everywhere.

Just one question, "winging"??

[lophophoras]

I don't mind paying a little extra for a properly shipped item, packaged so that the book doesn't get damaged.

Remember the limited UTD from the UK ?!? How many of us all got books with dings and bent corners because the packaging was substandard?

Honestly, I was surprised at how much shipping was at CD for the books when I checked out - but, guarantee me a pristine book, and I'll be okay with it. ( and I never considered that special, custom-sized boxes had to be ordered )

Thanks for the info, Brian. I can't wait to get my books! :nana:

I'm with you Pam. I have no problem paying a high shipping price as long as I receive a well packed and protected book.

:)

[Brian James Freeman]

What is the estimated ship date for the s/l ?

We'll post a specific date, like we did with SOD 2, as soon as we have it! Right now we're just saying December because the printer and the traycase maker aren't quite to the point where they'll give us specific dates to complete their jobs. We should know by the middle of next month, though, and we'll post the official publication date as soon as we can. :)

Best wishes,
Brian Freeman
brianfreeman@cemeterydance.com
http://www.CemeteryDance.com

[Ben Mears]

What is the estimated ship date for the s/l ?

We'll post a specific date, like we did with SOD 2, as soon as we have it! Right now we're just saying December because the printer and the traycase maker aren't quite to the point where they'll give us specific dates to complete their jobs. We should know by the middle of next month, though, and we'll post the official publication date as soon as we can. :)

Best wishes,
Brian Freeman
brianfreeman@cemeterydance.com
http://www.CemeteryDance.com

Is the gift edition on schedule for December delivery?

[Randall Flagg]

We'll post a specific date, like we did with SOD 2, as soon as we have it! Right now we're just saying December because the printer.....quite to the point where they'll give us specific dates to complete their jobs. We should know by the middle of next month, though, and we'll post the official publication date as soon as we can. :)

Best wishes,
Brian Freeman
brianfreeman@cemeterydance.com
http://www.CemeteryDance.com



Is the gift edition on schedule for December delivery?
I'm presuming the printer hasn't committed to a date yet for any of the three versions.

[Brian James Freeman]

Is the gift edition on schedule for December delivery?

Yep, it is! All is looking great on the schedule, but until the printer/traycase/slipcase people give me their firm delivery dates, I hesitate to say more than December. But right now, they are rolling according to the plans we had made with them when we started the project.

Just so everyone understands, I'd just rather not say a specific date and then have the delivery slip even a week. My personal preference is to only give a date that I know is definitely going to be correct, so there is no confusion/misunderstandings/disappointment down the road. :) With books like this, where there are special order materials and special production elements (like pages that are tipped in by hand), things can change simply because they take longer than the printer or whoever thought, so I'd rather error on the side of caution.

But as soon as I have that date, I will post it widely!

Best wishes,
Brian Freeman
brianfreeman@cemeterydance.com
http://www.CemeteryDance.com

[Patrick]

Personally I'm simply assuming you'll be there packing boxes late on New Year's Eve to meet a December 31st deadline. So if you ship any earlier, that'll just be bonus time with my new book. :)

[oy-the-brave]

It's 3 x the price to ship to Europe, so stop winging about shipping costs :P

I know, and I have to pay the shipping costs from the UK to the USA every time I buy one of those fantastic proofs of yours. I guess we are in a Postal Service wins, we lose situation here, but that's OK, as long as we all keep the economy rolling along by sending our money here, there and everywhere.

Just one question, "winging"??


I believe winging is Brit-speak for complaining and it's pronounced winge-ing not wing-ing.

[Patrick]

It's 3 x the price to ship to Europe, so stop winging about shipping costs :P

I know, and I have to pay the shipping costs from the UK to the USA every time I buy one of those fantastic proofs of yours. I guess we are in a Postal Service wins, we lose situation here, but that's OK, as long as we all keep the economy rolling along by sending our money here, there and everywhere.

Just one question, "winging"??


I believe winging is Brit-speak for complaining and it's pronounced winge-ing not wing-ing.
I replace the word "winging" with "whining." In my mind, that is.

[jhanic]

Looking at the UPS website, I should have my books Friday.

John

[tippy4]

I paid $35 shipping for just the one book.

Not that I'm one to defend CD, but shipping insured Priority Mail w/delivery confirmation costs abt. $20 in a flat rate box that is probably too small for this book. So, a cost of approx. $30-$35 isn't totally off the mark...still too high, but not crazily so.

Yeah, but they are not going to ship them Priority. They will most likely ship them UPS Ground.



However, $56 for two books doesn't make sense...the cost doesn't climb that much for the box, or insurance, once you go above a certain point...it's just a bigger box, but it would still cost $35 or so....so effectively charging double shipping does seem like a money grab.

Agreed.


Hi everyone!

To answer the question about the shipping, one of the things we've discussed in the other thread is that Cemetery Dance is trying to do a better job of planning and looking at the long-term, and not making some mistakes we used to make, which hurt our business.

In the past, like with The Secretary of Dreams, we just "went with our gut" when we assigned shipping prices, and in the end, we ended up eating a lot of costs.

In this case, we had the costs from starting to ship The Secretary of Dreams (Volume 2) to use for comparison when planning what shipping Full Dark, No Stars would cost us. We sat down with our accountant and our UPS rep, and when it came time to assign shipping costs we had to account for the additional labor, custom-made boxes, other packing materials, insurance on the shipments, the cost of each shipment, leasing the additional warehouse space, and other factors.

I completely agree that you shouldn't eat the cost of shipping, but it seems like you went from one end of the spectrum on SOD2 (undercharging) to the other end of the spectrum on FDNS (overcharging).


I don't mind paying a little extra for a properly shipped item, packaged so that the book doesn't get damaged.

Honestly, I was surprised at how much shipping was at CD for the books when I checked out - but, guarantee me a pristine book, and I'll be okay with it. (and I never considered that special, custom-made boxes had to be ordered )


I don't mind paying a LITTLE extra either, but a $20+ "handling fee" is not a LITTLE. As far as the comment about custom-made boxes goes, I am skeptical. WWW.ULINE.COM (http://www.uline.com/cls_04/Boxes-Corrugated) has just about every box size conceivable in stock.


Like I said before, the cost of shipping was given to me before I hit the SUBMIT ORDER button, and I still hit the button, so I guess I have no right to complain.

That being said, I am going to anyhow.

If there are costs like leasing extra warehouse space, then that should have been worked into the price of the book.

You know, I live in CA, so I expect to pay a little more for shipping, and as such, I am only annoyed by the $56 cost. But, If I lived closer to CDP, say in NY, MD, NH or VT, and I was charged $56 to ship 15 lbs of books to me, I would be downright pissed off.

Brian, like the others, I appreciate your presence here.

I also appreciate the fact that CDP is a business, and one of the main reasons that a business exists is to make money.

I have many CDP books on my shelf (Best of CD, FaB8, Great Ghost Stories, Blockade Billy, Road to the DT, SK Unpublished and just as many if not more on order. I am very impressed with your companies product.

My hope is that on future books, a shipping fee is charged that more closely reflects CDP's cost to get a book from their warehouse to me.

[Sir_Boomme]

Hey Brian,
I am very happy to see CD getting the business side of company to a closer point to where the quality of books side has always been.

I do have a question/request that has been on my tongue for about 5 years.

For the Lifetime membership people (like me). Is there anyway to get an extra few shipments a year? Granted, it is great to get a huge box of books that just keep spilling out... but it's kind of a bummer when a big time one like the king books comes out, and everyone on the block has it months before I ever get to see it. I don't mind the wait for most of the books, but if it's a king related limited, it definitely gets a bit frustrating coming on hear and reading about everyone having the book knowing I may not see it for a while because you guys hold them back until there's a big boxfull to ship.

Not asking for each book to be shipped separately by any means, possibly just an extra shipment when a huge title is released?

Thought I'd ask anyways.

[BigCoffinHunter]

My hope is that on future books, a shipping fee is charged that more closely reflects CDP's cost to get a book from their warehouse to me.

Well, once again, they are including the cost to pay for shipping and insurance for the signature sheets to and from the author, the cost of shipping and insurance from the binder to the warehouse, the costs to lease the warehouse space, purchase packing materials (including boxes, tape, packing peanuts, extra cardboard for packing, etc.), pay staff to come in to do the sorting and packing, and the actual cost of shipping and insurance to the consumer.

Additionally, with over 2,550 books going out, they are likely to have a small percentage damaged in shipping and, as I can personally attest from a situation where a book from a private seller was destroyed during shipping, while UPS does pay the purchase price of the book on an insurance claim, they do not reimburse the cost of shipping (at least in my case they didn't, which really pissed me off considering the fact that one of their machines literally tore the book in two and they delivered it anyways by leaving it on the door step after they claimed to have knocked with no answer). The one time I did have an issue with a book from Cemetery Dance, they paid for shipping in both directions.

Of course, one can argue that with the exception of the actual postage and insurance to the customer, everything else above is the cost of doing business and should therefore be included in the price of the book. True, but consider the fact that rather than charge $350.00 plus $35.00 shipping, Cemetery Dance could just as easily have charged $375.00 for the book and only $10.00 for shipping, in which case no one would really be complaining, particularly in light of the fact that the much shorter Blockade Billy was $450.00 plus shipping. So, in reality, it's just a question of semantics, 6 of one or half-dozen of the other.

[Brian James Freeman]

Not asking for each book to be shipped separately by any means, possibly just an extra shipment when a huge title is released?

Thought I'd ask anyways.

No worries! For books like SOD 2 or FDNS, we usually do try to send them on their own, we just have to get through all of the regular orders first so we can load and process the lifetimer "batch." :)

But we've been talking about other ways to process and ship lifetimers in smaller batches, so could you drop me a line via email? I'd like to discuss a few ideas with you to see what you think: brianfreeman@cemeterydance.com

Thanks!

Best wishes,
Brian Freeman
brianfreeman@cemeterydance.com
http://www.CemeteryDance.com

[Rahfa]

My hope is that on future books, a shipping fee is charged that more closely reflects CDP's cost to get a book from their warehouse to me.

Well, once again, they are including the cost to pay for shipping and insurance for the signature sheets to and from the author, the cost of shipping and insurance from the binder to the warehouse, the costs to lease the warehouse space, purchase packing materials (including boxes, tape, packing peanuts, extra cardboard for packing, etc.), pay staff to come in to do the sorting and packing, and the actual cost of shipping and insurance to the consumer.

Of course, one can argue that with the exception of the actual postage and insurance to the customer, everything else above is the cost of doing business and should therefore be included in the price of the book.

Obviously, everything above should be considered part of the cost of the book. Otherwise, why is it $350?

Like you say, just charge $385 and be done with it.

RF's got a good point below...although I think anything can be negotiated.

[Randall Flagg]

I would guess King either received a lump sum or a percentage of the sale price. If he was paid a percentage, it is unlikely he received a cut of the S&H charge.

[Brian James Freeman]

Someone raised a good point the other day, which I wanted to get some feedback on since it seems pretty relevant to this book.

How do you, as a collector/customer, feel when a retailer buys a brand new book (like a Stephen King signed Limited Edition) from the publisher and then lists it for sale for $100 or more over the list price because it sold out in 12 hours, etc?

Obviously the retailer received his standard discount (and net-30 terms), so he already has profit built into the retail price... But he obviously also has a collectible that is worth "more" than that retail price. He has no obligation to the publisher to sell it for the list price. He could sell it for $1 or $1000. The publisher doesn't have a say in that.

But how do you feel about this practice?

Best,
Brian

[Randall Flagg]

That is a very interesting point. I see that a copy of the S/L FDNS has already hit Ebay

[Brian James Freeman]

That is a very interesting point. I see that a copy of the S/L FDNS has already hit Ebay

Oh wow, I had not seen that listing yet. I thought eBay only allowed preorders to be sold 30 days from the ship date? Or has that changed?

Best,
Brian

[biomieg]

Re: some retailers asking premium prices. I see your point but in the end, what's the difference between paying a premium price to a retailer or being charged high shipping costs by the publisher? Everybody tries to earn a living and it's up to the customer to either bite the bullet and pay top dollar or wait until a cheaper copy comes along on the secondary market. This is a self-regulatory thing and I like to think that the buyer dictates the market.

[Rahfa]

Someone raised a good point the other day, which I wanted to get some feedback on since it seems pretty relevant to this book.

How do you, as a collector/customer, feel when a retailer buys a brand new book (like a Stephen King signed Limited Edition) from the publisher and then lists it for sale for $100 or more over the list price because it sold out in 12 hours, etc?

Obviously the retailer received his standard discount (and net-30 terms), so he already has profit built into the retail price... But he obviously also has a collectible that is worth "more" than that retail price. He has no obligation to the publisher to sell it for the list price. He could sell it for $1 or $1000. The publisher doesn't have a say in that.

But how do you feel about this practice?

Best,
Brian

I'm fine with it...no different than what many collectors do when they buy two copies, to sell one.

I mean, retailers guarantee the publishers a bunch of block sales, right? So you can say "okay, we're guaranteed 100 orders for the gift edition" and that gives the retailers the right to earn some money on the s/l.

I'm not a fan of publishers who sell "publishers editions" that seem to add up to as many copies of the s/l edition, though.

[turtlex]

Brian - Were you asking specifically about RETAILERS - you know, bookstores or whatever? Or are you including, as Rahfa indicated, collectors who buy one as an "investiment" with a plan to sell?

I guess it doesn't really matter though - Personally, as much as I hate when I miss out on an offering, I figure the market of collectors will set the price when I'm prepared to buy.

Frankly, my first stop is always here in Calvins. I know the folks here will give me good info on going prices/asking prices/sellers, and often someone here will have something I want. I'd rather my money stay here with the members I trust.

Ultimately, it's my bad if I miss the initial sale... so it's up to the market at that point.

[Brian James Freeman]

This is a self-regulatory thing and I like to think that the buyer dictates the market.

I tend to agree. It seems like the market has said what it has to say about the prices for FULL DARK, NO STARS right now, given the quick sellout, so it'll be interesting to see what prices the book sells for on the secondary market.

Just because hundreds of people signed up for the Waiting List on our site doesn't mean they would have bought a copy, but on the other hand, that's a lot of people who might be watching eBay for a copy!

Best,
Brian

[Brian James Freeman]

Brian - Were you asking specifically about RETAILERS - you know, bookstores or whatever? Or are you including, as Rahfa indicated, collectors who buy one as an "investiment" with a plan to sell?

Personally, as much as I hate when I miss out on an offering, I figure the market of collectors will set the price when I'm prepared to buy.

Yep, my question was only specifically about retailers/booksellers, not collectors who go the investment route.

My opinion, not that it matters much, is that once a book is out there, people (whether it be booksellers or collectors) can try to sell it for whatever they'd like to try to sell it for! The market will determine the "true" value.

But we had a lot of complaints recently from the customers of a bookseller who didn't realize he was selling a particular book for more than the original retail, which got me thinking about the topic.

Best,
Brian

[turtlex]

I think I was editing my post for clarity when you replied, Brian. Sorry about that.

Honestly, I probably wouldn't go to a bookseller - I'd come here and see what the deal was with going prices, recent sales, etc and as I wrote above - usually what I want is available from one of the members.

[Sam]

For me, I look at how many times the book has exchanged hands. Buying direct from a retailer with a reasonable expectation that I am the first owner of the book would lead me to expect to pay the Publisher's price. I might grant the bookseller a little profit (maybe pay $400 rather than $350 just for the convenience and for their overhead) but I wouldn't buy from the bookseller if they decided to sell the book for say $500 instead of the $350 that was the list price. I'm sure someone would snatch it up, but I don't feel like the original owner should be paying secondary market prices for any item. They should be able to get it at the retail price from a retail dealer. BUT, the market is what it is, and a non-chain bookstore charges what it's owner decides to charge.

Personally, I would do my research first and go to reputable sellers that I know here before I'd go anywhere else.

[jhanic]

One thing that upsets me is when the publisher "finds" extra copies of one of his items, then sells them at a "secondary market" price.

John

[Rahfa]

This is a self-regulatory thing and I like to think that the buyer dictates the market.

I tend to agree. It seems like the market has said what it has to say about the prices for FULL DARK, NO STARS right now, given the quick sellout, so it'll be interesting to see what prices the book sells for on the secondary market.

Just because hundreds of people signed up for the Waiting List on our site doesn't mean they would have bought a copy, but on the other hand, that's a lot of people who might be watching eBay for a copy!

Best,
Brian

Buick 8 was a pretty quick sell out too...it sold for $250 then, and probably sells for $350-$400 now (on a good day).

I think $350 is a good price, but I don't think it leaves much room for the secondary market to grow (and I'm not saying it should). I'd be really surprised if it sold for more than $500 long-term, and more like $450...there will be the usual spike after release, but that's for suckers.

[ur2ndbiggestfan]

There are some retailers who buy books from specialty publishers, and then sell them to the book lovers (like me) with a layaway plan, and only charge the original price of the book. Those are my kind of retailers! I would order many more books from CD if they had a layaway plan, but I fully understand why they don't. Selling all those books and keeping up with orders probably keeps them busy enough without haveing to worry about late payments, keeping and checking records, etc.

[demorgan]

One thing that upsets me is when the publisher "finds" extra copies of one of his items, then sells them at a "secondary market" price.

John

I agree.

[tippy4]

I have no problem with a dealer or reseller selling the book for more than the publisher's price.

However, as jhanic pointed out, it annoys me when the publisher does it.

[Sam]

Or worse yet, doing like Doubleday did and jacking the price up and up before publication, even after you have paid for the book.

[BigCoffinHunter]

I have no problem with a dealer or reseller selling the book for more than the publisher's price.

However, as jhanic pointed out, it annoys me when the publisher does it.

Then again, it would also seem like the publisher would be justified in cutting the dealers' discount if they are just going to jack up the price of the book anyways. I guess it really just comes down to the publisher's policies, whether they allow it or specifically bar such practices in their agreements with the sellers.

[Patrick]

I think $350 is a good price, but I don't think it leaves much room for the secondary market to grow (and I'm not saying it should). I'd be really surprised if it sold for more than $500 long-term, and more like $450...there will be the usual spike after release, but that's for suckers.
I agree with this statement.

Brian, in today's market, had I missed this initial opportunity, I would not be looking to pay a dime over your original price from another source. In fact, had you been asking even $400 I would have reluctantly passed. For me, the $350 price tag was my maximum threshold of pain for this book, so you pegged your price just right.



Or worse yet, doing like Doubleday did and jacking the price up and up before publication, even after you have paid for the book.Yes. I think everyone here has agreed that was a bullshit move, especially in the case of those who had already paid. If I'm wrong, I'd love to hear from those who think that this was acceptable.

[Ben Mears]

Hmm...

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/TFTB2.JPG published 2008
http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/fdns_cover_hi_res.jpg
http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/GD1.JPG published 2009

[alinda]

nothing new , or so it seems. :(

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

The guy in "Tales From the Bucket" is so gay :)

[Rahfa]

Ah, those "mirrored covers" go back to the pulp sci-fi of the 50s...I think it was a homage more than anything.

I also agree with the above comment about the price...I prob. would have bought at $250, but $350...meh...I have the signed trade coming from RiverRun, so I think I'm all set.

But, the price is right...that was the right price point where I think it's fair to everyone.

[Niels]

But these covers don't have that "both sides of the mirror"-effect!

[Ben Mears]

Ah, those "mirrored covers" go back to the pulp sci-fi of the 50s...I think it was a homage more than anything.

You're probably right but those two Gil Thorp books were sent to the author of FDNS in the summer of 2009 as part of a different limited edition proposal and, as can be clearly seen, the layout for the dust jacket of the CD edition of FDNS is almost an identical blend of the two GT covers. Coincidence?

[e_taylor]

Ah, those "mirrored covers" go back to the pulp sci-fi of the 50s...I think it was a homage more than anything.

You're probably right but those two Gil Thorp books were sent to the author of FDNS in the summer of 2009 as part of a different limited edition proposal and, as can be clearly seen, the layout for the dust jacket of the CD edition of FDNS is almost an identical blend of the two GT covers. Coincidence?

Interesting indeed. Was the solicitation for a FDNS edition or another book?

[Randall Flagg]

Ben, you say:
"those two Gil Thorp books were sent to the author of FDNS in the summer of 2009".Are you saying they went to Stephen King-author of FDNS?

[Rahfa]

Ah, those "mirrored covers" go back to the pulp sci-fi of the 50s...I think it was a homage more than anything.

You're probably right but those two Gil Thorp books were sent to the author of FDNS in the summer of 2009 as part of a different limited edition proposal and, as can be clearly seen, the layout for the dust jacket of the CD edition of FDNS is almost an identical blend of the two GT covers. Coincidence?

Wait...so what's the implication?

[Ben Mears]

Ben, you say:
"those two Gil Thorp books were sent to the author of FDNS in the summer of 2009".Are you saying they went to Stephen King-author of FDNS?

Correct.

[Ben Mears]

Ah, those "mirrored covers" go back to the pulp sci-fi of the 50s...I think it was a homage more than anything.

You're probably right but those two Gil Thorp books were sent to the author of FDNS in the summer of 2009 as part of a different limited edition proposal and, as can be clearly seen, the layout for the dust jacket of the CD edition of FDNS is almost an identical blend of the two GT covers. Coincidence?

Interesting indeed. Was the solicitation for a FDNS edition or another book?

Different book.
The GT books weren't sent as sample cover ideas, but, rather, to establish credibility and book publishing experience of the party proposing the limited edition to SK. The coincidence is that the cover art for CD's FDNS looks strikingly similar to the GT cover art. No accusation, no implication, just relating a chronological sequence of events.

[what]

Take Five Productions? Were they shopping a graphic novel?

[Brian James Freeman]

The cover artwork for the Cemetery Dance edition of FULL DARK, NO STARS came from discussions I had with Tomislav Tikulin over the summer once we knew we'd be publishing this book.

At the time, King and his agents approved Tomislav as the cover artist (as well as the interior artists), but they were not involved in the actual art discussions. They also approved the final artwork when it was completed. So they saw samples of Tomislav's past artwork (he does some beautiful stuff -- I would google him if you haven't seen it before!) and then they saw the final artwork. They didn't give any specific suggestions or ideas for the artwork.

I was the one who first suggested the idea of a man looking in a shop window with his reflection showing his "inner stranger" since one of the major themes of the book is the dark stranger inside everyone that we don't show the world. I envisioned a very normal looking street scene and the only "evil" element would be the reflection. This idea came to me while re-reading "A Good Marriage" in particular, but the theme is strong in all four stories.

During the discussions and the development of the sketches and the first passes at the artwork, I suggested it might be cool if the front and the back covers kind of mirrored each other. This is something we've all seen before on other books, it's hardly an original idea, but I thought it was a terrific way to amplify and focus on the themes of FULL DARK, NO STARS. Tomislav agreed and ran with the idea and came up with an even better looking cover than I had imagined.

By the way, this wasn't my first idea for the cover artwork -- when you meet the RATS in 1922, you'll understand why I thought about covering the book with their image -- but we wanted to go with something a little more subtle and something that actually reflected the themes of the book.

best wishes,
Brian Freeman
brianfreeman@cemeterydance.com
http://www.CemeteryDance.com

[Ben Mears]

Take Five Productions? Were they shopping a graphic novel?

No. A limited edition of an SK manuscript.

[Randall Flagg]

The Overlook Connection is selling a "Glow in the Dark" slipcase for FDNS.

[/URL][URL="http://overlookconnection.com/catalog/full-dark-stars-glowinthedark-slipcase-p-5777.html?osCsid=11c4e013971f0e5e55841ad721778a4b"]Link (http://overlookconnection.com/catalog/full-dark-stars-glowinthedark-slipcase-p-5777.html?osCsid=11c4e013971f0e5e55841ad721778a4b)

http://overlookconnection.com/catalog/images/thumbs/FullDarkSlipSamp.jpg

[biomieg]

I can't help it but I still hate the Overlook Connection slipcases with a passion. They always use horrendous color schemes and they just look so... cartoony and amateurish to me.

[WeDealInLead]

Those things are really ugly.

[Ari_Racing]

I don't like 'em. They look like...mmm...the glowing stars the little girls put in their bedrooms.

[Randall Flagg]

I can't help it but I still hate the Overlook Connection slipcases with a passion. They always use horrendous color schemes and they just look so... cartoony and amateurish to me.
I concur.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

:orely: I don't like. No sir, not one bit.

[Ricky]

Are the Overlook Connection slipcases made by blind children?

[Randall Flagg]

Are the Overlook Connection slipcases made by blind children?
Yes, but they can't hear.:P (The complaints)

[gsvec]

Anybody know if there will be a signing?
How about a signed/limited?
My gut tells me NO to both.


The mod at SKMB has already said no to both questions.
So they were wrong on both counts! :P

And yes - that is one UGLY slipcase! Won't see one on my shelves, that's for sure!

[frik]

Not really my taste either, but as they do keep turning them out, I'm sure somebody must like -and buy- them!

sk

[Cutter]

Agreed, they are horrible. They should just create blank slipcases to house the book. They would be much more attractive that way.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Why have a slipcase for a $10 book?

[Randall Flagg]

Why have a slipcase for a $10 book?
To stimulate the economy?:P

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Why have a slipcase for a $10 book?
To stimulate the economy?:P

Have your own made then. Better for the economy, but maybe not your own. :doh:

[Patrick]

Hi everyone,

I merged the two FDNS threads so we can keep the discussion of a single collectible book in a single place in the forum. Thanks.



p.s. As with the general sentiment expressed thus far, I do not Overlook's trade edition FDNS slipcases. I'm certain that CD's limited edition cases will put them to shame.

[Sam]

I own an Overlook slipcase for Just After Sunset. I bought it because my copy is signed, and I wanted to protect it. If I had a signed copy of FDNS, I might buy a slipcase for that one also. Of course, I didn't buy one for my signed UTD. Go figure.

[willie3]

I too own a couple of the Overlook slipcases, purchased for signed copies.
Not the best looking cases but functional.
The one for the FD,NS I will pass on.

That thing is uglier than a bent shit can.

Karl

[gsvec]

I too own a couple of the Overlook slipcases, purchased for signed copies.
Not the best looking cases but functional.
The one for the FD,NS I will pass on.

That thing is uglier than a bent rusty shit can.

Karl
Fixed that for ya, Karl. lol

[willie3]

I too own a couple of the Overlook slipcases, purchased for signed copies.
Not the best looking cases but functional.
The one for the FD,NS I will pass on.

That thing is uglier than a bent rusty shit can.

Karl
Fixed that for ya, Karl. lol

Thank ya Darlin' !!

[herbertwest]

A review and the phone from the reviewer (??)

http://www.star-telegram.com/2010/10/27/2581863/stephen-king-reminds-us-why-hes.html#tvg

so... who will? :evil:

[Ari_Racing]

What's the point of calling the reviewer?

[Bev Vincent]

I think Herbert wants his ARC!

[herbertwest]

i already have one (UK)... but yeah... if someone is looking for an american one, there seems to be an opportunity... ;-)

[east-tennessee]

FDNS Sweepstakes........

http://www.simonandschuster.com/sweepstakes/enter-the-full-dark-no-stars-sweepstakes/?mcd=ea&cp_type=ea&custd=281642

[Patrick]

Yep, I entered that just this morning.

Thanks for publicizing it and lowering my odds of winning.

:P

[east-tennessee]

your welcome:doh:

[Sam]

Many thanks! :nana:

[EvaH]

Thanks!:thumbsup:

[biomieg]

And thanks but no thanks... good luck US-ians, the rest of the world only gets to watch...

[Room 217 Caretaker]

I'm in.....thanks

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

[Patrick]

your welcome:doh:
:lol:

Is not everyone on the Simon & Schuster author alert email list? I figured it was one of those things, like a lot of these other publishers, that everyone knew about.

[east-tennessee]

Thats how I found out about the contest....

[Ari_Racing]

Yesterday I received the UK 1st edition.

[Brice]

thanks for letting us know about the contest. I am on their watch list, but haven't had a chance to check emails lately.

[biomieg]

The official release date of the US trade edition is November 9th 2010 but it's already in our bookstores. I grabbed one during my lunch break :)

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_fcdqdPh-_A8/TNKYIcpZ9II/AAAAAAAAAmw/YYxHOrOMkl0/s512/fulldarkUS.JPG

Guess what I'll be reading tonight?

[Sam]

It seems this would be the world 1st that you have biomieq.