Strength of Plot -- Graded "A"
Strength of Plot -- Graded "B"
Strength of Plot -- Graded "C"
Character Development -- Graded "A"
Character Development -- Graded "B"
Character Development -- Graded "C"
Quality of the Story's Ending -- Graded "A"
Quality of the Story's Ending -- Graded "B"
Quality of the Story's Ending -- Graded "C"
Never Read
Grading: Black House
Black House
Random House, 2001
Round 2, Group I
Grading for this Book is Closed
Strength of Plot:
2.619718309 (Graded B+)
Character Development:
2.718309859 (Graded B+)
Quality of Ending:
2.535211267 (Graded B+)
Overall Average Grade:
2.624413145 (Graded B+)
Combined Round 1 & 2 scores:
6.935223956
Heng Dai
Straight A's. I just re-re-read this a couple of weeks ago. It actually gets better each time. All aspects of this book work for me. It's one of my absolute favorites.
Like Jayson, I gave all As.
A true firewasp ninja would never wear such a ridiculous sweater.
There's logic in nonsense.
Give me all the bacon and eggs you have.
Straight B's here.
"People, especially children, aren't measured by their IQ. What's important about them is whether they're good or bad, and these children are bad." ~ Alan Bernard
"You needn't die happy when your day comes, but you must die satisfied, for you have lived your life from beginning to end and ka is always served." ~ Roland Deschain
Staight A's from me too.
The answer is within
all matter is energy, all energy is GOD
Originally Posted by alinda
Same.
All A's from me too. This is one of my favourite books and the ending has caused me unending tension ever since I read it
Never read, say sorry.
Margaret Emmie Mackey Catoe, you are, have been, and always will be my soulmate, and I love you.
Con todo mi corazon, por todo de mis dias. And I always will, in this life and into the next.
August 2, 1947 - September 24, 2010
Same here
A to all
Ask not what bears can do for you, but what you can do for bears. (razz)
When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)
bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yes, straight A's for me too.
A / A / B
It might have received straight A's if I had read it before finishing the DT series.
"...that Siren which called and sang and promised so much and gave, after all, so little." ~ Ray Bradbury
A B A
Looking at it as if you'd never read The Talisman..you don't get that much of an insight into our boy Jack..hence the B for character development.
Love the book a lot though. One of my favorites.
B/ B/ A
Great point and my basic reason for the B as well. The Talisman was extremely character driven in regards to Jack, and as I've mentioned before, that's why I wanted to read Black House and not because of DT connections.Looking at it as if you'd never read The Talisman..you don't get that much of an insight into our boy Jack..hence the B for character development.
Love the book a lot though. One of my favorites.
Never read, though judging from the marks, I would be remiss not to give it a chance huh.
Interesting observation on difference of Jack's character developments... for me it's just the other way, while the Talisman Jack strikes me as rather a papercut figure of a good boy, the Black House Jack always impressed me as a live, deep, multi-faceted personality... hmmm
Ask not what bears can do for you, but what you can do for bears. (razz)
When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)
bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jake? Do you mean Jack or am I missing something huge?
yes childe, you're missing a big, horribly tired bear who types the first letters he sees, unable to reach any further up the keyboard... I've edited my post, thank you!
Ask not what bears can do for you, but what you can do for bears. (razz)
When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)
bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have not read the Talisman in a while and have never read Black House, so when you said "Jake", I thought I might have possibly missed a very significant DT tie.
A's from me, all across the board.
“Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.”-Mark Twain
Listen to the mustn'ts, child. Listen to the don'ts. Listen to the shouldn'ts, the impossibles, the won'ts. Listen to the never haves, then listen close to me....Anything can happen, child. Anything can be.
-Shel Silverstein
Actually started a re-read over Christmas break. I'll let you know if my opinion changes any. It could be that I have more appreciation for the later Jack now that I'm older.
I didn't feel that he was a papercut figure in the Talisman though. He seemed to occupy a very liminal space- that transition between the innocence of childhood and the inevitable "awakening of consciousness" that defines adulthood. I think I would argue that what is compelling is the loss of the papercut image in the beginning of the novel and the young adult that Jack becomes by the end through his journey.
Ryan, I'm interested in your post-reread thoughts on Jack. I just re-read it a few weeks ago myself. I think adult Jack is actually pretty well fleshed-out in Black House. There is a lot there that reflects quite a bit on what Jack's experiences as a 12 year old mean to Jack the adult, as well as some interesting reflections on his relationship with his mother and how that affected him.
I'll be sure to let you know Jayson.
If you and the bear are fond of the character development, there's definitely a chance that I might be too. As a stand alone novel, I think my opinion of Black House might not be as severe as it is in some regards. The Talisman just has so much gravitas for me personally.
All A's. I actually read this before The Talisman, and think Jack was very developed as a character. It was what actually helped me finally complete The Talisman, which I had tried and put back down at least four or five times before trying Black House. They are now two of my favorite King stories of all time.
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