That cloth...that cloth.Originally Posted by Brian861
That cloth...that cloth.
Eastasia has always taught college students to feel pride or shame according to their race.
Paul, how are the pitchfork bands on the lettered edition created?
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- Philtrum Press Eyes of the Dragon RED #165
- Fine Viking Eyes of the Dragon proof
I'll probably do a post on this at some point, but since you asked, the tines of the pitchfork are laser cut into binders board, and the leather is shaped around the tines using a custom die template. At least that's the short version of it. There's more involved in the shaping, etc. The pitchfork handle actually extends across the spine, and around the back of the book.
You will notice if you look at a photo of the book, that the band extends across the outer hinge where the cover board opens. This was tricky because I wanted that continuous unbroken band representing the handle to extend from the back cover, across the spine and over the front cover, as well as both outer hinges. We were able to achieve it.
Some pics of the die template and the laser cut tines.
That looks really cool. Your entire description sounds so intricate. Really, all the versions look very nice. You really went all out on this Paul.
That is cool as hell
That was what really caught my eye on the lettered. Looks amazing.
Same here. Definitely made me wish I’d had the cash to buy one. Or try to buy one at least.
I’d say that and the typewriter keys are two of the coolest things I’ve seen on a book since I started collecting. And I haven’t even had any kool aid today yet.
Looking for Mister Slaughter S/L #78
What material is being used on the Horns Gift Edition?
One thing I was wondering about: Will the chain on the cover of the lettered vary from copy to copy? Will it always lay the same way?
I didn’t even think about that, and now I’m super curious!
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Michael Whelan & DT Original Art
The chain design is stamped in gold foil and will be consistent across all books.I didn’t even think about that, and now I’m super curious!
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Wanted: Human skin edition of The Book of the Dead. Will accept PC copy.
"It is a full cloth smyth-sewn binding with two-hits foil stamping..."
So a bookcloth covering with stamping on the spine and cover. The cloth, although not the same brand as what is on the Misery AGE, will be similar to that.
I've been away these last few days, but some of the comments posted on this thread lately require my attention. There's some shit I just cannot ignore....
Okay, allow me to "combat" your points. Let's begin with this shit....
Yet you are willing to fork out money on a Lettered book you haven't even read let alone touched!
No matter what kind of "deal" you landed, spending several hundred dollars on a book you have never read let alone touched, and then criticising fellow collectors for spending $675 to pre order a book is the very definition of hypocrisy.
Following the publication of EOTD and Misery, Suntup Editions have firmly established a brand footprint synonymous with excellence. Given the stellar production values attributed to the aforementioned and the stunning photos shown of all three editions of Horns, it is only natural for people to want a to own a copy, yet you deride them for it.
I wonder what your basis of comparison is?
And the problem being what exactly? The very definition of insanity would be to get yourself into financial difficulty on account of a book. If it wasn't for the generosity of publishers like Paul Suntup and book dealers like David at Betts in allowing payment plans, my collection would be practically empty.
Consider this post you made concerning your "holy grail":
You were subsequently advised by Randall Flagg, that "4K is closer to market than 6k."
If given the chance to purchase a copy of your "holy grail" for $4,000 USD, would you really turn down the opportunity to do so on a payment plan, considering that you have just started the long grind of saving up? I highly doubt it.
And the Lettered edition sold out in under 3 minutes. Again, what's your point? As far as I see it, 250 S/L copies of a non King book completely selling out after only 6 hours is an amazing achievement, and one that Paul should be proud of! Hell, I know several publishers out there that still have copies of KING books available even after publication!
Just to be clear, I will never sell my copy of Horns; so I literally don't give a shit what value it attains - it's the love of the actual book that drives my collection.
Do you mean "better" in the sense that Ender's Game is "better" than Horns from a literary standpoint, or "better" in the sense of their respective production values? If it's the former, your viewpoint is purely subjective and not one that I agree with. If it's the latter, you are quite mad.
....And of course the Letterpress printing on Rives cotton paper, crushed silk boards, Handmade black exotic marbled endpapers from India with metallic gold and silver on a base of 100% cotton rag, the twelve full-color illustrations by Magdalena Kaczan.... I could go on.
You have a very judgmental opinion towards what prices other people are prepared to pay for their books. I wonder if you measure your own collecting habits with the same level of scrutiny?
Let's see...
So to recap on the above, your willing to trade and add cash up to a total value of $2,500 for a copy of a Lettered edition of Altered Carbon, which had an issue price of only $250 or a copy of a Lettered edition of Terror, which had had an issue price of $500? LOL!
https://subterraneanpress.com/altered-carbon
https://subterraneanpress.com/the-terror
But this post regarding your desire for a Lettered copy of The Three-Body Problem (issue price $750 https://subterraneanpress.com/three-body-problem) is even better:
You would gladly trade a S/L copy of Misery AND a $1,000 for a sold out pre order book priced at $750? LMFAO!
Fuck me, that book must have some pretty stellar production values attached to it... oh wait!
All of this, yet you seem to think you can pass judgement on what people are prepared to pay for Suntup's edition of Horns.... Interesting.
But wait there's more.... You're criticising other people for paying "high prices" for a Suntup edition, yet you are quite happy for the same people to pay "high prices" for your own S/L copy of Misery! Double standards for sake of a quick profit.... Nice!
Yeah, real classy!I am already ecstatic with the price haha. I just listed for $6k and said offer away. I got one offer after I dropped I accepted but he couldn't come up with the money so I just decided to go the bidding route. Thanks though, you offered to buy/trade for it too, dont lie! I never expected above $4,500.This is the copy that he tried to get $6K for. Then $5K... I bet goes for nearish $4k6 bids, $1,803:
Misery by Stephen King Signed Numbered Suntup Editions Press w/ Remarque #172
Brand New
Hype like this?
I bet you would! LOL!
Your shit has more holes than swiss cheese. Consider yourself burned.
Tell me your analogy about Kool-aid again?
I'm a cloth fanatic; I'm losing it over here."It is a full cloth smyth-sewn binding with two-hits foil stamping..."
So a bookcloth covering with stamping on the spine and cover. The cloth, although not the same brand as what is on the Misery AGE, will be similar to that.
Eastasia has always taught college students to feel pride or shame according to their race.
BURN 🔥🔥🔥
Paul, thanks for posting the description of the process. Fascinating stuff. I can't wait to hear more.
HBJ
“If you don't know what you want," the doorman said, "you end up with a lot you don't.”
― Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club
Looking for SubPress Lettered::
Angel's Game and Prisoner of Heaven (Zafon)
Ilium (Simmons)
This was an interesting read, and a great use of cross-thread quoting. Very thoroughI've been away these last few days, but some of the comments posted on this thread lately require my attention. There's some shit I just cannot ignore....
Okay, allow me to "combat" your points. Let's begin with this shit....
Yet you are willing to fork out money on a Lettered book you haven't even read let alone touched!
No matter what kind of "deal" you landed, spending several hundred dollars on a book you have never read let alone touched, and then criticising fellow collectors for spending $675 to pre order a book is the very definition of hypocrisy.
Following the publication of EOTD and Misery, Suntup Editions have firmly established a brand footprint synonymous with excellence. Given the stellar production values attributed to the aforementioned and the stunning photos shown of all three editions of Horns, it is only natural for people to want a to own a copy, yet you deride them for it.
I wonder what your basis of comparison is?
And the problem being what exactly? The very definition of insanity would be to get yourself into financial difficulty on account of a book. If it wasn't for the generosity of publishers like Paul Suntup and book dealers like David at Betts in allowing payment plans, my collection would be practically empty.
Consider this post you made concerning your "holy grail":
You were subsequently advised by Randall Flagg, that "4K is closer to market than 6k."
If given the chance to purchase a copy of your "holy grail" for $4,000 USD, would you really turn down the opportunity to do so on a payment plan, considering that you have just started the long grind of saving up? I highly doubt it.
And the Lettered edition sold out in under 3 minutes. Again, what's your point? As far as I see it, 250 S/L copies of a non King book completely selling out after only 6 hours is an amazing achievement, and one that Paul should be proud of! Hell, I know several publishers out there that still have copies of KING books available even after publication!
Just to be clear, I will never sell my copy of Horns; so I literally don't give a shit what value it attains - it's the love of the actual book that drives my collection.
Do you mean "better" in the sense that Ender's Game is "better" than Horns from a literary standpoint, or "better" in the sense of their respective production values? If it's the former, your viewpoint is purely subjective and not one that I agree with. If it's the latter, you are quite mad.
....And of course the Letterpress printing on Rives cotton paper, crushed silk boards, Handmade black exotic marbled endpapers from India with metallic gold and silver on a base of 100% cotton rag, the twelve full-color illustrations by Magdalena Kaczan.... I could go on.
You have a very judgmental opinion towards what prices other people are prepared to pay for their books. I wonder if you measure your own collecting habits with the same level of scrutiny?
Let's see...
So to recap on the above, your willing to trade and add cash up to a total value of $2,500 for a copy of a Lettered edition of Altered Carbon, which had an issue price of only $250 or a copy of a Lettered edition of Terror, which had had an issue price of $500? LOL!
https://subterraneanpress.com/altered-carbon
https://subterraneanpress.com/the-terror
But this post regarding your desire for a Lettered copy of The Three-Body Problem (issue price $750 https://subterraneanpress.com/three-body-problem) is even better:
You would gladly trade a S/L copy of Misery AND a $1,000 for a sold out pre order book priced at $750? LMFAO!
Fuck me, that book must have some pretty stellar production values attached to it... oh wait!
All of this, yet you seem to think you can pass judgement on what people are prepared to pay for Suntup's edition of Horns.... Interesting.
But wait there's more.... You're criticising other people for paying "high prices" for a Suntup edition, yet you are quite happy for the same people to pay "high prices" for your own S/L copy of Misery! Double standards for sake of a quick profit.... Nice!
Yeah, real classy!I am already ecstatic with the price haha. I just listed for $6k and said offer away. I got one offer after I dropped I accepted but he couldn't come up with the money so I just decided to go the bidding route. Thanks though, you offered to buy/trade for it too, dont lie! I never expected above $4,500.This is the copy that he tried to get $6K for. Then $5K... I bet goes for nearish $4k6 bids, $1,803:
Misery by Stephen King Signed Numbered Suntup Editions Press w/ Remarque #172
Brand New
Hype like this?
I bet you would! LOL!
Your shit has more holes than swiss cheese. Consider yourself burned.
Tell me your analogy about Kool-aid again?
Looking for:
- Philtrum Press Eyes of the Dragon RED #165
- Fine Viking Eyes of the Dragon proof
does anyone truly believe these books are worth what they are going for?
In the end...the very end. it will be the rare, the very old 1st/1sts in vf/vf, hard to get books and unique items that are actually worth the most money. I believe these pretty, multi duplicates, will find there value diminished. who would not rather have an early signature vs anything in the last 10 years. if you have money to literally burn then i think its a pretty adage to ones collection, otherwise its silly. i say put your money into something with some history. These books wont have history until it doesn't matter anymore.
Just sayin,
You don't know my kind.....You don't my mind.....Dark necessities are part of my design.....
Thanks for explaining. I wasn't sure by the description on the site.The chain design is stamped in gold foil and will be consistent across all books.I didn’t even think about that, and now I’m super curious!
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With all due respect - Utter nonsense.
I can take my pick of F/F first editions of ANY of the DoubleDay originals for < $1000. With the exception of rarities like The Plant and TNLR, ALL of the early Signed Limited's are freely available on the open market for < $2000. Only Lettered editions go above that as a norm. These prices have been stable for years and only increase with inflation or due to some related event (like the hype around the IT Film).
Ask any serious collector what are the 'special' books, the 'Holy Grails' and the answer will invariably be "The Stand - Coffin Edition, Firestarter - Asbestos cover, Regulators - Bullet Case, 'Salem's Lot - Centipede Press, Skeleton Crew - Leather zip case. What have all these got in common? It's not just because of the small pool of books due to the (mostly) lettered limitation it's the vision of the final book coupled with the craftsmanship and quality of materials used.
Suntup Editions has set the bar very highly, not just on the ultra rare but on the standard Limited and Gift editions as well. These are perfectly capable of holding their own in the above esteemed company. Quality as they say, never goes out of fashion.
"A real limited edition, far from being an expensive autograph stapled to a novel, is a treasure. And like all treasures do, it transforms the responsible owner into a caretaker, and being a caretaker of something as fragile and easily destroyed as ideas and images is not a bad thing but a good one...and so is the re-evaluation of what books are and what they do that necessarily follows." - Stephen King
I could not agree more Simon.With all due respect - Utter nonsense.
I can take my pick of F/F first editions of ANY of the DoubleDay originals for < $1000. With the exception of rarities like The Plant and TNLR, ALL of the early Signed Limited's are freely available on the open market for < $2000. Only Lettered editions go above that as a norm. These prices have been stable for years and only increase with inflation or due to some related event (like the hype around the IT Film).
Ask any serious collector what are the 'special' books, the 'Holy Grails' and the answer will invariably be "The Stand - Coffin Edition, Firestarter - Asbestos cover, Regulators - Bullet Case, 'Salem's Lot - Centipede Press, Skeleton Crew - Leather zip case. What have all these got in common? It's not just because of the small pool of books due to the (mostly) lettered limitation it's the vision of the final book coupled with the craftsmanship and quality of materials used.
Suntup Editions has set the bar very highly, not just on the ultra rare but on the standard Limited and Gift editions as well. These are perfectly capable of holding their own in the above esteemed company. Quality as they say, never goes out of fashion.
HELP ME FIND
Insomnia #459
ANY S/L #459
I agree with you Simon %100. Unfortunately the ones you listed as Holy Grail items as lettered, I have as numbered (except Salems Lot). I don't have that. But again, I do agree that the Suntup and other S\L books are special in their own way. Just because of the reasons you listed above.
This sniping about the value of Suntup books is ridiculous and a waste of time. If you're a collector, the book is worth whatever you are willing to pay for it. It's a subjective, personal decision. If you're an investor, the book is worth whatever the market is telling you it's worth (and the market is based on the aggregate of the countless subjective, personal purchasing decisions that collectors have made). So why get bent out of shape about it? Either buy or don't buy.
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