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    Default James Farson ** SPOILERS **

    I'm glad that he's going to be back for the next arc, mainly because I thought he was an interesting character and was disappointed to see him go in Treachery before doing anything.

    That being said, I found the whole "resurrection" bit hard to swallow...from what little we saw of Walter's abilities in The Gunslinger, when he resurrected Nort, the guy was little more than a zombie. With James, it seems he's in full control of all of his facilities. That, and if Walter could resurrect him, why not Gabrielle whose corpse was probably 'fresher'? He says he couldn't bring her back, but there's no reason why...

    He really shouldn't have been killed off to begin with.

    On a related note...the backstory presented by Furth said that John Farson killed James' parents, and Walter was pitting the two against each other. Any chance we're going to see that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberGhostface View Post
    I'm glad that he's going to be back for the next arc, mainly because I thought he was an interesting character and was disappointed to see him go in Treachery before doing anything.
    Me too. I got the impression from one of the other books (End-World Almanac?) that he was a rather more 3 dimensional character than the 'all evil' Farson, and seeing him die so quickly in Treachery was a shame. The sorcerer fixed this somewhat.

    That being said, I found the whole "resurrection" bit hard to swallow...from what little we saw of Walter's abilities in The Gunslinger, when he resurrected Nort, the guy was little more than a zombie. With James, it seems he's in full control of all of his facilities.
    I quite liked seeing Walter use this ability again. As for Nort being little more than a zombie, I don't think that was due to his resurrection. That was due to his weed addiction. In fact, if anything, he was a little bit better after his resurrection, showing real humanity as he said to Allie "If he could bring me back, couldn't he have fixed the addiction too?" (That's me paraphrasing from memory.) I think he even put off the weed for a little while, although he soon fell back on old habits.

    That, and if Walter could resurrect him, why not Gabrielle whose corpse was probably 'fresher'? He says he couldn't bring her back, but there's no reason why...
    Yeah, I didn't understand that either. Maybe he simply meant that he chose not to, knowing it would make more aggravation with the jinni. An intersting little moment though, where Walter shows some genuine humanity (although he blood droplets had a bit of ick factor.)

    On a related note...the backstory presented by Furth said that John Farson killed James' parents, and Walter was pitting the two against each other. Any chance we're going to see that?
    Hopefully! I imagine she will since she mentioned it, although I imagine it depends on how much other stuff they need to cover. Lets hope they don't rush things to much.

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    FYI : I put a ** SPOILER ** note in this thread title so you could all write without using spoiler tags!
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    Considering that it was never revealed what happened to Farson after the war, I would say that it is very possible that Marten manipulates James into killing him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flaggwalkstheline View Post
    they said sheemy was a cyborg
    THEY SAID WHAT???????

    Thank you Flagg. You just saved me some money on buying these comics. There's NO WAY I'm getting these if they're Fing up things that badly.

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    Weeeeelllll, not exactly.

    Honestly, if you're a fan, I do recommend everyone reading the comics ( yeah, try not to be surprised ) - if you don't want to collect them, trying for each variant and issue, then I suggest reading the grahphic novels which gather the issues. They're really pretty good and the art is excellent.
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    I agree with you on the art. I have the "Born" graphic novel and the artwork IS beautiful. Alright turtlex, if you say it's worth it and they didn't totally rape the characters, i'll look into getting the other comic arcs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flaggwalkstheline View Post
    I quit reading the comics after they said sheemy was a cyborg
    they are good
    but I will never believe that they are canonical
    Is it really true? How is it possible? I don't get it.

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    No - check here : http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/...d.php?p=392824

    Sheemie came up in another thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by turtlex View Post
    No - check here : http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/...d.php?p=392824

    Sheemie came up in another thread.
    Thank you so much. I feel much much better.

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    Default Aileen

    Am I the only one who can't stand Aileen? Maybe it's because Furth has pretty much admitted that she's based on her, but she's struck me as a Mary Sue with Furth going out of her way to stress how awesome she is.

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    Heck, it appears that we're going to be seeing more of her in the new series as a ghost or something. Furth is just going to keep on beating us over the head with her.

    In her defense, I guess I consider young Roland to be a bit of a Mary Sue as well--he only works, IMO, when he's the grizzled old gunslinger who has lost his humanity and is in the process of discovering it again.
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    I like the character, but not the execution of the idea. Does that make sense?
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    Quote Originally Posted by turtlex View Post
    I like the character, but not the execution of the idea. Does that make sense?
    Yes. I was just thinking the same before I read your post.

    I thought it was particularly silly when she disguised herself as a boy and... nobody seemed to notice or care. Then this arc, her hair has grown again. So what was that about? (Although I suppose it's quite amusing no one cared.)

    Maybe Furth had a thread idea for her then (perhaps on reading reactions or just considering other similar stories*) abandoned it.

    *I loved the twist Terry Pratchett provided in Monstrous Regiment though.

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    I'm not a fan of Aileen either, simply for the fact that she gets like what, two pages in the book series?

    Like Pam, like the character, not the execution. But, I'm a purist that way. I'm also one of those people who gets bent out of shape when movies veer to far from the books they're based on.



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    I kinda have the hots for Aileen. I would love to have a Jae Lee drawing of her.

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    Oh, I have a total girl crush on her myself, but again, the idea of character, not the execution.



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    Quote Originally Posted by wizardsrainbow View Post
    I kinda have the hots for Aileen. I would love to have a Jae Lee drawing of her.
    Quote Originally Posted by Daghain View Post
    Oh, I have a total girl crush on her myself, but again, the idea of character, not the execution.

    Double ditto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wizardsrainbow View Post
    I kinda have the hots for Aileen. I would love to have a Jae Lee drawing of her.
    You mean something like this


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    That one, exactly.



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    Quote Originally Posted by oy-the-brave View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by wizardsrainbow View Post
    I kinda have the hots for Aileen. I would love to have a Jae Lee drawing of her.
    You mean something like this


    Woot!
    Woot !!

    That's the one, yessiree !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by oy-the-brave View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by wizardsrainbow View Post
    I kinda have the hots for Aileen. I would love to have a Jae Lee drawing of her.
    You mean something like this

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    I would like to like Aileen. It would be nice to see another gunslinger level worthy female before Susannah in the actual series.

    Unfortunately, Aileen hits virtually every requirement of a Mary Sue and seems far too much like a Robin Furth self insertion.

    1. Related to someone close to Roland? Check (Cort's niece)

    2. More skilled or nearly as skilled as the main characters? Check

    3. Involved romantically with more than one of the main characters? Check (Roland and Cuthbert)

    4. Beautiful, sassy and refuses to adopt the conventions of a male dominated society? Check

    She's just too much of a cliche for me to like her. I would have been far more interested in her character if she hadn't been transparently shoe horned into Roland's world.

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    Said it much better than I could.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wizardsrainbow View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by oy-the-brave View Post
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    I kinda have the hots for Aileen. I would love to have a Jae Lee drawing of her.
    You mean something like this

    Dave, you wascally wabbitt!
    This was one of the pages that Jae Lee brought to our little Vegas gathering. I requested this page and the double page of the beam Guardians and a couple of others that night. I think its the best Aileen drawing (besides the cover which was way expensive).

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    Dave-
    Ballpark, what did you pay for the Aileen?

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