I'm sorry, but IMO, if I see this:
In big bold letters before I even get to the description I am running like my hair is on fire. That is just way too shady for me.Please be CONSIDERATE when leaving feedback... I am a very reasonable person and am willing to work out any problems or issues you may have, so if you are upset about something please email me first before leaving a negative. I am sure we can work it out together. Thank you.
Last edited by Ves'Ka Gan; 11-20-2008 at 03:36 PM. Reason: typos
YOU MUST CHILL. I HAVE HIDDEN YOUR KEYS.
If the person is wiling to "Work things out", I think that is great. I would base my buying decision on other factors in addition to the disclaimer.
Well...remember that sellers can't leave bad feedback anymore, so thry're trying to put that out there right up front...in context, I don't think they're doing anything that sketchy...
Originally Posted by Ves'Ka Gan
This is sorta funny. They might have well as written : "Yeah, expect problems"
The Man In Black Fled Across The Desert...
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That's how I read it!
YOU MUST CHILL. I HAVE HIDDEN YOUR KEYS.
This is sorta funny. They might have well as written : "Yeah, expect problems"
see now i see, "okay. i can't fuck you over with feedback anymore so let's try to work this out when i just plain fuck you over. love, your ebay seller."
but then, i'm a natural born cynic. :: shrugs ::
Haha...I'm not sure you guys want to be buying on ebay at all, if you're going to read that much into it...
i've been buying on ebay successfully for several years. i've only ever left two neutral comments (once the item wasn't as described, once the item was as described but the seller mailed my first edition hardcover in a bubblewrap mailer). given the overall situation i didn't feel either seller deserved positive feedback but they didn't deserve negative either. although that second seller was such an ass when i emailed about the mailing. . . . but that's a story for another time.
i've not gotten a negative or neutral comment as a buyer (yet). but a lot of my comments don't count because i tend to frequent the same sellers (multiple comments from the same seller don't count) and some of them have left. once a seller is no longer a registered user, their feedback doesn't count (which is unfair imo).
but, i ask ALL of my questions before i even consider bidding. and i mean all. shipping, insurance, overall cost, will they ship it my way, etc. i'm a very persnickety ebayer because i like my feedback rating and i HATE giving negative or even neutral comments.
As a seller, I tried once to leave NEUTRAL feedback and the damned system wouldn't let me. I did receive the item, but it was not as described. Not so bad that I didn't want the item, but bad enough I wouldn't have paid as much as I did. The seller did not respond to any of my emails, but I couldn't leave anything but positive feedback. I wrote to ebay, got no response. So I left positive feedback and wrote "Can't leave bad feedback I want to, was lied to" or something similar that fit in the area.
Margaret Emmie Mackey Catoe, you are, have been, and always will be my soulmate, and I love you.
Con todo mi corazon, por todo de mis dias. And I always will, in this life and into the next.
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you were the seller or the buyer?
Sorry, I was the buyer. My mistake, please forgive. Yesterday was a bad day for me.
Margaret Emmie Mackey Catoe, you are, have been, and always will be my soulmate, and I love you.
Con todo mi corazon, por todo de mis dias. And I always will, in this life and into the next.
August 2, 1947 - September 24, 2010
Ouch
reported all of these:
http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/cecman2003
The sad part is bidders are buying them even though the seller places a disclaimer in the descriptions. Their winning bidders must really know their Stephen King signatures.
One bidder invested about $3000
They've been at it for a bit and is making pretty good $$$$ per his feedback and the end prices.
I've reported this guy numerous times for fake sigs, but eBay just doesn't listen.
This collecting stuff is a sickness! ~Patrick
Same here.
His story is as fake as the signatures.
Mulleins
Cumberland VA
Agreed - if you look at his feedback you'll see that the "signed" "1st" of the shining he is selling right now is his third.Same here.
His story is as fake as the signatures.
Mulleins
Cumberland VA
I'm sorry, but I don't think even Bob has three signed 1sts of the Shining, so this schmuck sure as hell doesn't!
What happened to Renaissance
The following ID history explains fire-horse-books and their forgeries.
It's the big time forger from fall 2007 Renaissance Auctions
eBay Member User ID History
The box below contains the User IDs that this member has used on eBay.
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fire-horse-books Jun-01-08 Present
renaissance_auctions Mar-27-07 Jun-01-08
nikawanderer1971 Feb-24-07 Mar-27-07
Updated text from www.skfakes old list :
renaissance_auctions their alias wanderingwriter1966 and new ID in 2008 fire-horse-books noticeably started selling King forgeries in Oct. 2007. ( nearly $4,000 worth of junk in the first month and still going strong ) Mostly selling forged 1st BCE . What the heck is a 1st BCE and how do you identify it as such? Of course the seller falsely claims these were actually printed the same year as the true firsts. As for BCEs, they are stateless It's not possible to distinguish between one printed five years ago and one printed fifteen years ago. We just a little comparison we presume their signed books from other authors are also forgeries.
Very, very interesting, Hutch! I didn't know you could pull up the id history. I'll have to do some experimenting.
John
That is rediculus, some people have absolutly no shame at all.reported all of these:
http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/cecman2003
The sad part is bidders are buying them even though the seller places a disclaimer in the descriptions. Their winning bidders must really know their Stephen King signatures.
One bidder invested about $3000
They've been at it for a bit and is making pretty good $$$$ per his feedback and the end prices.
It must take a lot of Horlicks (malt drink) to get them to sleep.
What makes it even more silly is that one of his biggest buyers is a shop called "vjbooks" with alot of feedback points, makes you wonder if they know there fakes or not.
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"A gunslinger knows pride - that invisible bone that keeps the neck stiff."
"Officer Benzyck! It's good to see you and there's some jam right there on your collar, praise God!"- Rev. Earl Harrigan
I swear I wonder how many of these deals actually get consummated...
I could see selling scam items for lowball prices...but some of these auctions end for prices well above market value...so somebody's overpaying, plus not knowing what they're buying?
VJBooks are what I'm talking about...do they generate fake sales to create enthusiasm and a reputation where none exist? It just doesn't ring true to me.
Well if they are knowledgeably selling fakes, would you be surprised if they were also involved in shill bidding?
Haha...I think shill bidding is a given...
I just wonder if they are completing sales to create this atmosphere of a good market, even though no sales are actually being completed? As in, you have three or four shills get involved with a sale (and if the same completes, great), but mostly it's to earn feedback and show sales as 'completed' so people get fooled.
But, that makes NO sense because of the money involved...so I'm probably wrong...
I dunno...just fishy all the way around...bad signatures, weird sales, off-market final prices...strange...
Maybe the guy is both VJ Books AND cecman2003 - just has 2 accounts.
This collecting stuff is a sickness! ~Patrick
Even still, if you bid and win you still got to pay final value fees, shill bidding or not...obviously ebay would notice if they kept cancelling auctions to avoid final value fees...
I guess I want to believe they aren't making the sales, but they probably are...oh well...
THE GIRL WHO LOVED TOM GORDON STEPHEN KING - SIGNED FE
Horrible fake.
FOR SALE OR TRADE
Dark Tower 7 Artist Edition n/a
The Waste Lands 1st Edition in Shrinkwrap $200
1984 Grant Gift Edition of The Talisman $400
Lisey's Story ARC $50
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WANTED
Signed 1st Edition of Storm of The Century (Paperback)
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