Roland's
The Mejis folks' (who let it happen)
Cordelia's and Rhea's
Everyone's from above
Someone else's - /let us know please/
It was ka
Noone's
Cordelia's and Rhea's and Ka's. It all had to happen to start off the quest to the tower.
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Just to make my position clear, I really don't blame anyone but Susan for getting caught--she should have been a little more careful.
It was obvious the place was way too dangerous at that point and she really should have been carrying a gun I believe.
However, to the main question. Roland blamed himself for his lack of action where she was concerned, forever. More than forever--for all the universes in all times forever.
To me, if he was or not is moot because the man blamed himself. It colored his actions from that point on. It was his burden to carry and I agree with him that he should have felt guilty as hell about the way it turned out.
Same with dropping Jake.
The kindness of close friends is like a warm blanket
Again, I agree with you Matt, but the question was who do we blame. I doubt anyone disagrees that Roland blames himself [if they don't think so, they are overdue for a re-read]. Like I said earlier though, do we not all blame ourselves at some point for something others would not? Isn't that one of the reasons we have psychologists in our world?
Yep, but I always considered them snake oil salesmen. Perception is reality and if Roland blamed himself, then it was his fault.
I know that seems strange but if we are discussing the character, he bore the blame, the blame was his. And I agree with him--he could have mixed Susan with the affiliation and his duties as a gunslinger, but never with the Tower. Very clear choice.
That choice killed Susan, the blame is his for that choice.
The kindness of close friends is like a warm blanket
I'm sorry Lisa, did you say something?
Well put Matt. Eddie didn't understand that and its almost like King put that scene in there so we could hear Susannah say that is exactly Roland's perception. At the end of Wizard and Glass we are primarily left with the question of whether or not Roland can be redeemed with his new Ka-Tet. He sacrificed Susan and became a matricide in the cause of the Tower. Both of these revelations are contained in Wizard and Glass for the first time.
I chopse option four, but really, Ka was at work as well, here.
Look; just because Ka meant it to be so does not mean that there weren't certain people who helped Ka's cause. The obvious people who arranged and allowed it to happen, of course, but I also feel it was partially Roland's fault. He chose to leave her, right? He had already begun to obsess. This is why I think Ka allowed his love to leave his life-- Roland didn't deserve to keep her, because he didn't choose her to begin with. One could argue with me that it was still too early to blame Roland, but I strill feel the way that I do about it.
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Has anyone suggested that Susan's death was her own fault? After all, the tipping point was her falling in love with Roland. She knew how dangerous it was for both of them and Roland even somewhat warned her, but she encouraged him to continue.
Sure Dino, its clear that she shares much of the responsibility for her position. I just really think that since Roland obviously blamed himself, there is no reason to consider who was truly to blame in the context of Roland's frame of mind.
The kindness of close friends is like a warm blanket
Roland would have understood.
"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem." -PRESIDENT RONALD REAGAN, 1985-"We have two companies of MARINES running all over this island and thousands of ARMY troops doing nothing!" -GEN. JOHN VESSEY, CHAIRMAN OF JOINT CHIEFS
shit happens on the way to the tower. bad shit. doesn't everyone share a bit of the blame on a quest?
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It was Stephen Kings!!
The answer is within
all matter is energy, all energy is GOD
"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem." -PRESIDENT RONALD REAGAN, 1985-"We have two companies of MARINES running all over this island and thousands of ARMY troops doing nothing!" -GEN. JOHN VESSEY, CHAIRMAN OF JOINT CHIEFS
Wow! I was kidding, I didnt think anyone would misunderstand that.
The answer is within
all matter is energy, all energy is GOD
lol i was 2 just felt like being smart
"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem." -PRESIDENT RONALD REAGAN, 1985-"We have two companies of MARINES running all over this island and thousands of ARMY troops doing nothing!" -GEN. JOHN VESSEY, CHAIRMAN OF JOINT CHIEFS
I take full responsibility for Susan's death. I only wish I could have choked her a little with my bare hands before I burned her.
I voted for Cordelia and Rhea though.