Your sarcasm is noted Sunshine.Originally Posted by Rjeso
Oh, yeah, that's TOTALLY Vannay.
Your sarcasm is noted Sunshine.Oh, yeah, that's TOTALLY Vannay.
Just remember to cast your vote wisely once voting begins!Mr T gets my vote!!
This thing is going to end up like letting a kid name the dog right?
You get something like..."3"
The kindness of close friends is like a warm blanket
King never gave a description for Abel so blame him.
Thank you Hain of Dag!You got it! Contest will be open until December 18, 2007. No more extensions will be available.
You are most welcome, Slinger of the Grill.
And just remember, the Content Manager (meaning ME
"People, especially children, aren't measured by their IQ. What's important about them is whether they're good or bad, and these children are bad." ~ Alan Bernard
"You needn't die happy when your day comes, but you must die satisfied, for you have lived your life from beginning to end and ka is always served." ~ Roland Deschain
Well I hope my entry isn't removed from the contest. I worked very hard on it and it took me several hours to complete. I did it entirely in ms paint and if you've ever used that program you'd know that sometimes to get what you want you need to do each pixel individually.
Just because my depiction of Abel isn't what most of you had in your head please don't discount it. There was no character description and I chose to do something that would be different from every other entry.
Thank you.
That's exactly what this contest is about Jimmy. I personally consider it as legitimate as any of the other entries.
The kindness of close friends is like a warm blanket
these are all awesome.
i do love the VAN NAY knuckles.
That's awesome to hear Matt. Thank you.
It is merely the artist's goal to interpret as they see fit without fear of censorship. If the members don't like it, they won't vote for it. But at least it will be counted.
I am sure Jimmy's will get due consideration, and I echo Matt's appreciation of the effort. I know it is far better than what I could produce.
I can't draw for shit, so I'm impressed when anyone can do anything. And I'm sure you did put a lot of work into that, Jimmy.
I'm just saying, Towerpedia! is supposed to be a serious effort, kind of like an online encyclopedia of DT info. If you intended the drawing in that manner, great. Personally, I didn't quite take it that way. I seriously doubt Vannay was a Mr. T lookalike with lots of bling.
While I would never remove it from the contest, I will reserve the right to make the choice as to whether or not it goes into the article if it does win.
"People, especially children, aren't measured by their IQ. What's important about them is whether they're good or bad, and these children are bad." ~ Alan Bernard
"You needn't die happy when your day comes, but you must die satisfied, for you have lived your life from beginning to end and ka is always served." ~ Roland Deschain
Then I would like it removed from the contest. If I don't have a chance to win, then I would rather not compete.I can't draw for shit, so I'm impressed when anyone can do anything. And I'm sure you did put a lot of work into that, Jimmy.
I'm just saying, Towerpedia! is supposed to be a serious effort, kind of like an online encyclopedia of DT info. If you intended the drawing in that manner, great. Personally, I didn't quite take it that way. I seriously doubt Vannay was a Mr. T lookalike with lots of bling.
While I would never remove it from the contest, I will reserve the right to make the choice as to whether or not it goes into the article if it does win.
My choice of persepective versus your vetoing due to "serious doubt" and "seriousness of the piece" negates the idea of having the contest be open to submissions and voting in the first place.
What if this had one the first contest :
Would you have vetoed it, called it silly and then chose another?
Before any feelings get hurt here, can we all take a deep breath and calm down?
Perhaps Daghain, Matt, Patrick, myself, etc. can have a chance to talk about this before matters go any further.
My concern here is that people will vote to be silly, and that's not what I'm after. I'm sorry If I've upset you, and I'm not sure how to fix that. If you want it removed from the contest, that is certainly your perogative. I still stand by my original statement that I want Towerpedia! to be an online encyclopedia of DT knowledge, and as such should at least try to be accurate to the general feel of the books. I doubt Sai King would agree with your depiction of Vannay. Hannah at least tried to keep to the general feel of the books, I think, but if I felt it was inappropriate, then yes, I would have chosen not to use it.Would you have vetoed it, called it silly and then chose another?
"People, especially children, aren't measured by their IQ. What's important about them is whether they're good or bad, and these children are bad." ~ Alan Bernard
"You needn't die happy when your day comes, but you must die satisfied, for you have lived your life from beginning to end and ka is always served." ~ Roland Deschain
I don't believe members would vote for it to be silly. I expected no more than 2 votes in total. I just wanted a chance to show my idea for Vannay and have it be counted.
If you want towerpedia to adhere to what you expect then you shouldn't have opened a contest to see our interpretations of the characters. You could've just as easily chosen one person to create the pictures for the site.
Vannay could've been 3 plaid chickens stacked on top of one another, King never said. Doubting my interpretation of Vannay's appearance and suggesting you know King's thoughts on an undescribed character based on your own feelings and opinions make the points moot.
Hannah did exactly what the description of Tick Tock said he was. Mike Beck didn't sling one of this legs over the side of the arm of the throne. Darkthoughts only drew a portion of Tick Tock. Hannah gave him a beard while the others didn't. Darkthoughts and boehmke had Tick Tock's opposite legs slung over the side. Each chose their own color schemes, positioning and lighting.
I did the same thing. I saw Vannay as I saw Vannay and I made it something you could see. Whether or not you like it because of your opinions should not be a factor here, it's what the other members think.
Jimmy, may I ask a question? I wouldn't like to hurt anybody I am just really interested in it.
How could you imagine him so modern? You know. I mean the rings on his fingers. His clothes. I have no problems with them but it's so damn different from the guy who is on my mind that I had to ask it. I am just keen on it.
Roland would have understood.
Vannay lived in Gilead thousands if not millions or billions of years ago before the world moved on and before Roland began his journey. Also we don't know his origins and in a literary world where people have a tendency to cross over into other times and plains of reality everything about the characters and their places of origin could be in doubt.
Rather than have this continue on, I'm going to redo my submission more in line to what I believe the readers' consensus of Vannay's appearance is.
I'm sorry to have upset any apple carts.
If Daghain hadn't vetoed Hannah's likeness of the Tick-Tock Man had it won, then I certainly would have. The Towerpedia is the nexus of our informational content on the series, King, and his other works. The images used are representative of our site, and we do take that seriously.
Daghain never removed the image from the contest, and we will still keep it in for voting should you decide you want it included. You want it counted and voted on, so let that happen. But you know as well as I do that if it did win, that it would likely be because some members were being silly. You said you only expect two votes and that members won't vote for it to be silly, and I agree on that. So let it stay in the contest, allow the votes to be tallied, and we shouldn't have a problem. Daghain was just qualifying you that your image isn't exactly what we were shooting for, so the likelihood of us using it for the page is small. You would, however, still receive the prize for winning.
Seriously, man, no one here is trying to be mean or rude to you. We should have been more clear in the contest guidelines that site management has the final say on any image that is to be representative of an area of the site. I apologize for that. But really, keep your picture in the contest. It's a damn good picture, whether serious or not, and I am sure you spent a great deal of time on it. There's no sense in wasting that effort at all.
Heng Dai
I'm resubmitting.
That is all I'm saying on the subject.
Your choice, but I don't see it as necessary. But if you insist, then I look forward to seeing what you come up with. You obviously have artistic talent, so I imagine it will look great.
Vannay is never outright described in the story, but everyone around him is. Gilead very much has the period feel of the Old West with bits of Arthurian Legend thrown in. Given that, I find it hard to believe that anyone would seriously interpret him as looking like an urban street thug with hip-hop sensabilities(bling, very much modern era hip-hop rings). I like him being interpreted as black, but I can't see how anyone would get the getup from reaidng teh story and condsidering how everyone around him dresses. I assumed from the get-go that you were just trying to be funny and interpreting him vastly different that you probably actually see him to make a point. I also thought that Hannah's picture in the first contest was just her trying to be funny.
Can you honestly say that that was how you saw Vannay when you read the book?
There's one hole in every revolution, large or small. And it's one word long.. people. No matter how big the idea they all stand under, people are small and weak and cheap and frightened. It's people that kill every revolution.
Jimmy, I just want to point out that you can always put your Vannay into the Fan Art gallery so people can view it along with the other fan art.
A true firewasp ninja would never wear such a ridiculous sweater.
There's logic in nonsense.
Give me all the bacon and eggs you have.
I'm impressed by the variety of interpretations that Darkthoughts, Boehmke, Letti, Aaron, and Jimmy have created, and the work that must have gone into each of them. Great job, everyone!
I look forward to whatever this two-week extension brings from other artists as well.
"...that Siren which called and sang and promised so much and gave, after all, so little." ~ Ray Bradbury
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