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    Default 2018 Haven Foundation Fundraiser-Change

    Mr. King and the board of The Haven Foundation have decided to make their foundation private, and no longer will accept public donations. As such, we will not have a HF fundraiser in 2018.


    I’m very proud of what we accomplished over the years, not only for The Haven Foundation, but for our members and the collecting community. Numerous auction winners have received one-of-a-kind King Books and art. Every Grand Prize was a book inscribed by Stephen King, and every winner was someone known to the community at TheDarkTower.org.


    Each year we tried to top the previous year with a book that became priceless to the winner. Our apex, or acme if you will, may have been the personalized Bill Hodges Trilogy where King inscribed all three books with quotes from within.


    As a group we raised over $100,000 for The Haven Foundation!


    There are too many booksellers, artists, donors and members to thank in this notice, but rest assured they know who they are, and how much their help was appreciated.


    Your humble owner entrusted with maintaining the site,

    Jerome Smith

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    It cost Jerome personal money to run this site. How about a scaled back foundation auction for the benefit of this site?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Room 217 Caretaker View Post
    It cost Jerome personal money to run this site. How about a scaled back foundation auction for the benefit of this site?

    Mulleins
    Every year around December 1st, I ask for donations to not only keep the site running, but to also keep it ad free. Anyone who's been to even popular(rich) sites knows that pop-ups have become ubiquitous.
    I don't want members that look at an auction to all of sudden be getting side bar ads on their email, or other internet searches for King stuff on ebay, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Room 217 Caretaker View Post
    It cost Jerome personal money to run this site. How about a scaled back foundation auction for the benefit of this site?

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    I love this idea. And take a process of the profit to buy a nice King item for the grand prize!
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    What are the benefits of making a foundation private?

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    No audit. No accountability. No requirements for fund distribution. No public scrutiny/accounability

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    Pardon me for being obtuse, but I'm not sure what the thrust of this thread is establishing. Is it being suggested that we switch the benficiary of the annual haven fund raiser to the site and it's associated fees? Is the traditional "December fund raiser for site fee's" replacing Haven as the beneficiary since Haven will no longer accept donations? Or is the "Site Fee" contribution still going to be in effect come 12/1 and another charity chosen for the annual (2018) fundraiser?

    Don't get me wrong I have long been an advocate for site fee's and am still committed to helping out a site sponsored charity, I'm just seeking a little clarity is all. Set me straight and wind me up. Even though I am "Retired" I am still one to be counted on to pony up in either case.

    Just seeking direction and clarity is all if, that is, it is currently available.
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    Shame. I was really looking forward to participating this year for the first time.

    I've only been a member for a very short time but this site has already been useful on countless occasions. I love the idea of a site-run fundraiser and will also be happy to donate to the site directly.

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    There will be a site donation period soon don't worry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shannon View Post
    What are the benefits of making a foundation private?
    Quote Originally Posted by Roseannebarr View Post
    No audit. No accountability. No requirements for fund distribution. No public scrutiny/accounability
    Roseannebarr you are correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merlin1958 View Post
    Pardon me for being obtuse, but I'm not sure what the thrust of this thread is establishing. Is it being suggested that we switch the benficiary of the annual haven fund raiser to the site and it's associated fees? Is the traditional "December fund raiser for site fee's" replacing Haven as the beneficiary since Haven will no longer accept donations? Or is the "Site Fee" contribution still going to be in effect come 12/1 and another charity chosen for the annual (2018) fundraiser?

    Don't get me wrong I have long been an advocate for site fee's and am still committed to helping out a site sponsored charity, I'm just seeking a little clarity is all. Set me straight and wind me up. Even though I am "Retired" I am still one to be counted on to pony up in either case.

    Just seeking direction and clarity is all if, that is, it is currently available.
    Read post #1. I think it is clear. No where have I mentioned another charity.

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    That is a shame about the fund and some amazing work has been done by this site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Room 217 Caretaker View Post
    It cost Jerome personal money to run this site. How about a scaled back foundation auction for the benefit of this site?

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    I am always up for pitching in to keep the site what it is now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Room 217 Caretaker View Post
    It cost Jerome personal money to run this site. How about a scaled back foundation auction for the benefit of this site?

    Mulleins
    I love this idea!

    But is there any chance we can push it back to January now that we won't be doing the Haven Fund stuff anymore? Jerome deserves our help, but I always have a hard time finding spare change during December...

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    I could run the site fundraiser December and January.

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    Sorry to hear that the Haven board wont accept any more private donations.

    A fundraiser for the site sounds excellent!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randall Flagg View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Merlin1958 View Post
    Pardon me for being obtuse, but I'm not sure what the thrust of this thread is establishing. Is it being suggested that we switch the benficiary of the annual haven fund raiser to the site and it's associated fees? Is the traditional "December fund raiser for site fee's" replacing Haven as the beneficiary since Haven will no longer accept donations? Or is the "Site Fee" contribution still going to be in effect come 12/1 and another charity chosen for the annual (2018) fundraiser?

    Don't get me wrong I have long been an advocate for site fee's and am still committed to helping out a site sponsored charity, I'm just seeking a little clarity is all. Set me straight and wind me up. Even though I am "Retired" I am still one to be counted on to pony up in either case.

    Just seeking direction and clarity is all if, that is, it is currently available.
    Read post #1. I think it is clear. No where have I mentioned another charity.

    Oops, my bad. No Haven Fund Raiser in 2018. Got it. Are we considering replacing with another charity or just doing the site fee donation in December and nothing more going forward?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randall Flagg View Post
    I could run the site fundraiser December and January.
    Or, keep it going to the traditional May 19th date, subtract funds for the site fees and any monies left over contribute to other charities/member situations? Just to be clear, I'm down with the program whatever gets decided. Like I said, just wind me up and point me in the proper direction. lol lol

    Edit: I've long advocated site fee contributions. There is no reason a single person should have to bear all the fiscal responsibility for something we ALL benefit from and enjoy regularly.
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    As far as other charities are concerned, I had considered the Bangor Public Library. A $5K donation gets the site recognized at the library, and we can direct where the money is spent (teen readers, children, etc.)
    Some of the problems I foresee are:
    • Contributors from the past-Small press, artists, members etc. may not be as motivated to donate for a library as they were for a foundation that specifically helped writers and artists
    • King himself may not want to participate by inscribing the grand prize.

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    I’ll have to donate double site fees this year. Missed it last year cos of comas n’ shit.

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    I don't know how the rest of you feel, but because of the decision to go private and pretty much tell us to go fuck ourselves, I'm of the mindset to go in a completely different direction, away from King. He's not going to do the grand prize anymore, why would he? So no, screw King, and screw Bangor. Might be blasphemy, but that's how I feel.

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    This is a very odd development from the foundation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shannon View Post
    I don't know how the rest of you feel, but because of the decision to go private and pretty much tell us to go fuck ourselves, I'm of the mindset to go in a completely different direction, away from King. He's not going to do the grand prize anymore, why would he? So no, screw King, and screw Bangor. Might be blasphemy, but that's how I feel.
    Good point and I kinda agree. There is certainly no shortage of reputable charities and I'm confident we can, together, come up with a worthy grand prize as well as othe auction items as we've managed to do over the years.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kingfan24 View Post
    This is a very odd development from the foundation.
    Not really. There are tax, management and other valid reasons for the change. Especially if it is funded and King feels there are other worthy causes to focus on.
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