Love of knowledge
"Philosophy," when translated means "love of knowledge" or "love of wisdom."
I wish this to be a thread where philosophical discussions can be had by those who enjoy philosophy.
I wish this to be a thread where philosophical debates can be had without bruised egos and tactical nukes.
I'll begin by asking for speculation as to why I, generally, greatly disagree with Locke, yet he is the philosopher I comprehend the most.
Feel free to ignore my query and make a statement of your own.
All that's left of what we were is what we have become.
Liz my love, you definitely got the wrong thread; this one is meant for philosophy as specified in the starter post. You can start a thread on linguistics somewhere, right?
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Well I thought that Jon specifically wanted to speak of the love of knowledge and wisdom and..
*blushes*
well perhaps I took him too literally.
I've been wanting to share that list for a long while though....
Sorry...
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Human kind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's first law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one and only truth.
don't be sorry my darling llamafox, it's only a small misunderstanding! that's what Jon specifically emphasized:Originally Posted by LadyHitchhiker
Well I thought that Jon specifically wanted to speak of the love of knowledge and wisdom and..
*blushes*
well perhaps I took him too literally.
I've been wanting to share that list for a long while though....
the good news is that there already is a thread where your fabulous research can be housed! I'll just move your posts there.I wish this to be a thread where philosophical discussions can be had by those who enjoy philosophy.
Ask not what bears can do for you, but what you can do for bears. (razz)
When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)
bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i think me and Nigel started to have a conversation on existentialism... is that the speculation about what we really "know"?
Human kind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's first law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one and only truth.
I don't think there's any "really know" where philosophy is concerned. So, if you are interested in such discussion, I am sure many people will be, too, so please start it here!
Ask not what bears can do for you, but what you can do for bears. (razz)
When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)
bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ok. well we were riding down the highway and picking on me he asked me what color the grass was. i said green of course even though i knew where he was going with it. (sometimes it's like dating my dad lol... the good side of my dad)... But of course he said how do you know that is green? And i'm in agreance with him (them) on the subject. we don't know what colors are besides what we've assigned them to be.
i would also like to start a discussion on cuss words since that is my favorite subject... pick which one you want
Human kind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's first law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one and only truth.
"what color is grass when nobody is looking" is a time-honored question, perfectly fit for a thread on philosophy
"cuss words" should, however, be discussed separately, in some other thread (I wouldn't mind if you started one in Dixie Pig - I've always been interested in the question of the inevitability and desirability/appropriateness of using them)
Ask not what bears can do for you, but what you can do for bears. (razz)
When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)
bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wonderful thread! I am very excited!
I will be posting many questions when I have a little more time so expect to see a lot more from me in here!
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Nice Thread!
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there's no such thing as colors... they aren't really there so much as they're just reflections/absorptions...
sorry the server at my job was down.
gonna start the cussing thread too tho.
Human kind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's first law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one and only truth.
I tend to take the view that as most things only "exist" through our perception of them (colour, sound, etc), reality is subjective to the individual.
There are certain elements of our realities that overlap and concur with other people's perceptions - such as colour - but I wouldn't say colour was an objective thing, because some people are colour blind, so the perception of colour is not consistent in every individual.
I'd apply that to many things, mental health/sanity for one.
I love reading Lisa's "darkthoughts" and I totally agree. All of reality is subject to our perception of it. That idea has been one of the lynchpins of my life.
Its also why its part of my sig permanently.
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I'm glad that sig's a permenant fixture
absolutization of this idea would make any communication impossible; it would also cast strong doubts upon the knowability of the world
Ask not what bears can do for you, but what you can do for bears. (razz)
When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)
bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
for example, sound is defined as sound waves vibrating in the human ear, and if this is true, if the tree falls and nobody hears it, it does NOT make a soundI tend to take the view that as most things only "exist" through our perception of them (colour, sound, etc), reality is subjective to the individual.
There are certain elements of our realities that overlap and concur with other people's perceptions - such as colour - but I wouldn't say colour was an objective thing, because some people are colour blind, so the perception of colour is not consistent in every individual.
I'd apply that to many things, mental health/sanity for one.
but it still produces those waves
Ask not what bears can do for you, but what you can do for bears. (razz)
When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)
bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
True, but we only know the soundwaves are there in the first place because they have been observed, as we also know that colour is present in light, because we have observed it.
In that way, these concepts only exist at all because there was an initial observer.
I think the general term you are seeking is epistemology.
Existentialism is one school of thought within Philosophy like relativism, constructivism or pragmaticism.
Thank you all for responding. I had a lot of trouble with my connection on the board tonight but I will jump in soon. I have to sleep now.
LIZ!!! come back!!
All that's left of what we were is what we have become.
the concepts, yes. The phenomena, no.
Ask not what bears can do for you, but what you can do for bears. (razz)
When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)
bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In that way, these concepts only exist at all because there was an initial observer.
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Exactly right, we are the canvas, as well as the painting on it.
The answer is within
all matter is energy, all energy is GOD
Surely soundwaves actually exist though. Nothing to do with whether or not there was ever a paltry human to bear witness to it.
When the tree falls in the forest there is an actual distortion of the air of 'x' decibels for 'y' distance - therefore the 'sound' exists, even were there no life on earth (human or other) to 'hear' it??
Sound waves actually exist, of course, but sound does not until it is interpreted by an ear.
I dunno if I buy that one Brice.
The interpretation is just what our ear does with the sound which already exists. (ie. the wave just vibrates some tissue which the brain then interprets).
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