I just wanted you to know Matt that even though there is all this criticism..at the end of the day I really do hate you. I hope you know that?
I just wanted you to know Matt that even though there is all this criticism..at the end of the day I really do hate you. I hope you know that?
"It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.
"When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah
Seriously rough shit in here.
There is a very good reason why the discussion is the way it is, it has to do with autolinks so the format will stay the way it is.
If we don't like the actual discussion being associated with the article, I can change that back.
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Yeah, I'd rather you have to click on the discussion button in Towerpedia to see it, rather than just have it under the article.
Otherwise I'm happy.
"People, especially children, aren't measured by their IQ. What's important about them is whether they're good or bad, and these children are bad." ~ Alan Bernard
"You needn't die happy when your day comes, but you must die satisfied, for you have lived your life from beginning to end and ka is always served." ~ Roland Deschain
I'm not having any problems with this site yet (however, knowing my ancient, betamax piece of shit computer, I will), but for some reason, I can't access TDT.net at all. Every time I try, I get one of those 'cannot access this page' screens, which helpfully inform me that there is either a problem with the computer or with the site (duh). I'm not having any more trouble than usual getting to any other site; is TDT.net down for some reason? If anyone knows what's up here, please send me a PM. And to my friends here (you know who you are), I hope I'll be coming around here more in the near future, and that my long period of relative silence is almost over.
We place no reliance
Upon virgin or pigeon;
Our method is science,
Our aim is religion!
-Motto of Aleister Crowley
Nice to see you back Mara.
As TDT.com is a totally independent site from TDT.net, not too sure on the problems over there.
I do know that they are widely reported though, so hopefully someday something will happen.
Really glad you aren't having a problem with this one though.
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The pages for the individual book discussion are neither intuitive, or simple.
TESTING new ideas does not mean the implementation of them universally.
I know there is a bit of repartee going on in this thread, but we will get nowhere fast by continuing.
If I get what you're saying, you think it's a pain to have to click on the book discussion, then again on the discussion thread, to get to the actual discussion thread.
Problem being, if we fix that, it totally screws up Towerpedia, making the discussion thread part of the entry. Which, in the words of Darkthoughts (totally spot-on, IMHO) amounts to seeing a final paper with notes attached.
Am I on the right page, or am I missing something?
"People, especially children, aren't measured by their IQ. What's important about them is whether they're good or bad, and these children are bad." ~ Alan Bernard
"You needn't die happy when your day comes, but you must die satisfied, for you have lived your life from beginning to end and ka is always served." ~ Roland Deschain
I understand it what you've said Daggers. I don't want Towerpedia to be changed at all since I too like the professional look to it. I do still wish it could be separate from The Baronies and not have a decision there affect Towerpedia. Oh well, I'll live.
BTW, when are we gonna have a sweet Book Search?
You may have to elaborate a little here Jerome.Originally Posted by Randall Flagg
and yes, we will have a book search at some point.
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Well Monte, if you would just start typing, we'd have a booksearch in no time.
"People, especially children, aren't measured by their IQ. What's important about them is whether they're good or bad, and these children are bad." ~ Alan Bernard
"You needn't die happy when your day comes, but you must die satisfied, for you have lived your life from beginning to end and ka is always served." ~ Roland Deschain
About that, does anyone know what it involves? Do we really need to type out the entire books?
We can't actually, it is a copyright infringement. I believe the method Tyler used was to actually go through the books and physically type a line at a time. Naming each entry with its page number to organize it.
Like...
Page 193. Roland said to Jake "you must be a man" (that would be the first line on the page)
Page 193 As they walked away, Jake flipped him off behind his back (that would be the second line on the page)
and so on...
That would be the only way I could see that he set it up the way he did and I have a lot of experience with that sort of thing.
We would need to come up with a unique way to do it and I believe it could be done if we had a bunch of motivated people and years to work on it...like we do.
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Thats just the banal type of thing I enjoy (I'm sure I have an ocd
Well Monte, if you would just start typing, we'd have a booksearch in no time.We would need to come up with a unique way to do it and I believe it could be done if we had a bunch of motivated people and years to work on it...like we do.I could probably help out a bit. Nothing major but it sure would be cool not to have to visit other sites when I need a little booksearch help with trivia....um, not that I ever need help with them.Thats just the banal type of thing I enjoy (I'm sure I have an ocd
I can help type anything, and I know Will would too, I think he's already volunteered once here.
Seriously, I'm doing nothing these days with the exception of a load of laundry and dishes here or there. Not sure how long my hiatus from worklife will last, but until I formally decide to start putting resumes out there, I can and will do whatever need be here.
I'm a pretty fast typer and accurate (65 wpm with 98% accuracy..oh yeah babies!!!!)
So someone just let me know what to do and where to start.
Not to mention Will and I have about a 95% complete library of all King's works.
It's peanut butter jelly time!
Okay, I am going to put a poll with some options (once I figure them out) and we can vote on which one you guys would like to do.
I would love to get this rolling
The kindness of close friends is like a warm blanket
sounds fine to me!
It's peanut butter jelly time!
precisely
I won't now expand on why I don't like the new layout (I know I am very conservative, which most other people are not), but there's one thing that bothers me greatly: is the starter post supposed to disappear after someone goes on to "discussion"? Maybe it's only my broswer, or that I haven't yet fully understood how to use the new thing (only just back home from Prague), but I've checked Letti's new thread on Andy, and her first post just doesn't seem to be there when it is needed for reference in discussion.
Ask not what bears can do for you, but what you can do for bears. (razz)
When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)
bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Welcome back dear Jean!!
And anyway the first post vanishes for everyone if they click on the discussion button (or just for you and me).
Roland would have understood.
Welcome back Jean
You are correct, Jean, the first post disappears when you click on discussion. If we fix that, we totally screw up Towerpedia.
"People, especially children, aren't measured by their IQ. What's important about them is whether they're good or bad, and these children are bad." ~ Alan Bernard
"You needn't die happy when your day comes, but you must die satisfied, for you have lived your life from beginning to end and ka is always served." ~ Roland Deschain
if we don't, we screw up discussion. Guys, I understand that cool is cool and you're doing titanic work and all that, and I appreciate it and am eternally grateful, but please, - not at the expense of discussion. It is absurd that the starter post is not seen. It ruins the very idea of a thread. Couldn't we please, please keep the -pedia stuff away from discussion? They are intrinsically different, and what is good for one is often not good for another.
P.S. Nikolett, I couldn't dream of anything better than seeing you greet me back after that period of absence!And thank you Storyslinger!
Ask not what bears can do for you, but what you can do for bears. (razz)
When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)
bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice to have you back Jean, hopefully your little time off was wonderful
As far as this goes, there is documentation on the site to explain it but I will throw it out here as well.
I would like to keep in mind that there are book discussions all over the site. The Baronies is just a specific spot to get information on the individual books themselves and see yet another graphic representation of the cover.
Also, this section of the site had very low traffic before I decided to make this change. No one was really using it except for about 4 threads in lets say...20 forums. So something needed to be done.
All the NuWiki product does is graphically represent the first post in a thread, it designates all other posts as "discussion". Like reading the first page of an article and then having to turn the page for the rest in a newspaper.
The first post becomes irrelevant because they are all the same in the discussion forums. A pic of the book, quick synopsis of what it the book is about and how to join the discussions.
The first posts in those threads are all the same--just a little different per book.
The idea is that people who are new to the site or the series can click into the Baronies, and then click any of the individual books for information and discussion on them. They can also choose to stop at the one they have read up to in the series and not get spoiled on the rest. That is not possible anywhere else on the site.
It also will create auto links to the book itself throughout the rest of the site.
If no one posts in there, then that is not much different than the forum was before, however, we will have a chance to test this new fuctionality and folks will be able to get used to the format so when they see the Towerpedia!, they have a little more experience on how to work in there.
Turning it off is easy, one click and its back to forums nice as you please but we are going to try it for a while.
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If I understand the issue correctly, couldn't it be solved by merely making the second post an exact copy of the first? Then when the first post "disappears", it's twinner will show up and the discussion will be intact.
"...that Siren which called and sang and promised so much and gave, after all, so little." ~ Ray Bradbury
Its something we could try but I'm not sure its necessary because its simply a graphic. There really isn't anything in the first post except that and some instructions.
I am up for whatever you guys think.
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