View Poll Results: How Would You Rate This Book

Voters
24. You may not vote on this poll
  • 10 - One of the best books ever

    8 33.33%
  • 9

    2 8.33%
  • 8

    4 16.67%
  • 7

    1 4.17%
  • 6

    4 16.67%
  • 5 - Average

    1 4.17%
  • 4

    0 0%
  • 3

    0 0%
  • 2

    2 8.33%
  • 1 - Hopelessly poor, wish I hadn't read it

    2 8.33%
+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 61

Thread: The Catcher in the Rye

  1. #1
    Ash seeketh embers razz has a spectacular aura about razz has a spectacular aura about razz's Avatar

    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Michigan
    Posts
    4,092
    My Mood
    Dead
    Country
    Country Flag

    Default The Catcher in the Rye

    Catcher in the Rye, written by J.D. Salinger, is considered one of the most influential books of the 20th century. And it seems, we all want to know why.

    I personally, am having many difficulties in getting into this book, so for now, I will post questions asked by fellow members (though paraphrased)
    If anyone else has questions to add, PM them to me, and I will add them to this first post.

    Member Questions:

    1. How did you feel about the writing style of the book?

    2. For what reason is this book so "hyped"?

    3. Why do you think this book has become a modern classic?



    More Questions!
    1. If you were to perform a psychoanalysis of Holden, what would your diagnosis be?

    2. What words of wisdom, if any, did you think that Holden provided?

    3. How do you think the title relates to Holden as a character?

    4. Why is Holden so afraid of phony people?
    Beyond the scope of light, beyond the reach of Dark. . . what could possibly await us?
    And yet, we seek it, insatiably. Such is our fate. . .

  2. #2
    shrewd and knavish sprite flaggwalkstheline will become famous soon enough flaggwalkstheline's Avatar

    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    the endless desert of new mexico
    Posts
    2,087
    My Mood
    Paranoid
    Country
    Country Flag
    Gender
    Gender

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by razz View Post
    Catcher in the Rye, written by J.D. Salinger, is considered one of the most influential books of the 20th century. And it seems, we all want to know why.

    I personally, am having many difficulties in getting into this book, so for now, I will post questions asked by fellow members (though paraphrased)
    If anyone else has questions to add, PM them to me, and I will add them to this first post.

    Member Questions:

    1. How did you feel about the writing style of the book?

    2. For what reason is this book so "hyped"?

    3. Why do you think this book has become a modern classic?

    expect more to come
    1 I loved it, I adore this book

    2 Holden is the first character of his kind, the wild antisocial young crazy person, he sets the archetype for characters like Gilbert Grape and Tyler Dirden

    3 Because everyone who reads it finds something in it they identify with
    if the worlds gonna end then let's get it over with, i got shit to do

  3. #3
    John F. Kennedy juliebcreative is on a distinguished road juliebcreative's Avatar

    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Warwick, RI
    Posts
    23
    Country
    Country Flag
    Gender
    Gender

    Default

    I honestly believe that you need to read this book while you're in high school...or that age or whatever. If I read it now, I don't think it would have the same impact.

  4. #4
    Oz the Gweat and Tewwible mae has a brilliant future mae has a brilliant future mae has a brilliant future mae has a brilliant future mae has a brilliant future mae has a brilliant future mae has a brilliant future mae has a brilliant future mae has a brilliant future mae has a brilliant future mae has a brilliant future mae's Avatar

    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    New Jersey
    Posts
    23,305
    Country
    Country Flag
    Gender
    Gender

    Default

    The style is half the point. I love literature with original writing styles (Palahniuk, Foer).

  5. #5
    BAZZINGA candy is a jewel in the rough candy is a jewel in the rough candy is a jewel in the rough candy's Avatar

    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Accrington. England
    Posts
    3,194
    My Mood
    Blah
    Country
    Country Flag
    Gender
    Gender

    Default

    I am flabbergasted that you guys like this book?
    i hated it with a passion, (not very often i can say that about a book either)

    1; i found the writing style to be awful, very lazy with overuse of words. i understand it was supposed to be written from the young mans point of view, but i found the whole style boring and irritating

    2; i have no idea why this book is so hyped, the only thing i can think of is the people that have supposedly read it turned out to be infamous for the wrong reasons. i certainly wont be recommending it to anyone

    3: ?god knows because i dont

    i understand the whole 'different writing style' and i loved a clockwork orange for that, this book however, didn't have a style, it just repeated itself (much like me in this post)but this book didnt even have a story line. i cant even say i disliked holden, i just couldn't work myself up to care for him in any way.

    the reason i hated the book, was i felt that i had wasted time reading it. i can honestly read any book and 99% of the time come away thinking i have got a least something from them. but this book just seemed to plod on and on and on. and for all that didn't actually get anywhere in the end.

    i am honestly at a loss as to why it is billed as a 'classic of our time' and i am hoping someone can enlighten me?

  6. #6
    shrewd and knavish sprite flaggwalkstheline will become famous soon enough flaggwalkstheline's Avatar

    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    the endless desert of new mexico
    Posts
    2,087
    My Mood
    Paranoid
    Country
    Country Flag
    Gender
    Gender

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by candy View Post
    i am honestly at a loss as to why it is billed as a 'classic of our time' and i am hoping someone can enlighten me?
    because Holden Caulfield is the penultimate angry young futureless rebel and most people can identify with him either because they remember feeling like that or (in my case) still feel like that
    the book was banned because of its foul language (which is actually not so bad at all) but the real reason it got in so much trouble was because of the way it presents a young man who is completely at odds with society in such a compelling manner that it unnerved the powers that be
    if the worlds gonna end then let's get it over with, i got shit to do

  7. #7
    BAZZINGA candy is a jewel in the rough candy is a jewel in the rough candy is a jewel in the rough candy's Avatar

    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Accrington. England
    Posts
    3,194
    My Mood
    Blah
    Country
    Country Flag
    Gender
    Gender

    Default

    He didn't really strike me as a rebel though, more that he was very ill and seemed to be suffering from depression. with the 'i didn't feel like it' it just seemed like he had no energy and all his actions to me pointed to someone who wasn't setting out to be a rebel - it all seemed more like a cry for help.

  8. #8
    Achin' to be Seymour_Glass is on a distinguished road Seymour_Glass's Avatar

    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Good ole Virginnie
    Posts
    1,309
    My Mood
    Yeehaw
    Country
    Country Flag

    Default

    Well, being in high school, I'm gonna say that Holden Caufield is a distillation of something in me.
    Big town's got its losers, small town's got its vices...

  9. #9
    shrewd and knavish sprite flaggwalkstheline will become famous soon enough flaggwalkstheline's Avatar

    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    the endless desert of new mexico
    Posts
    2,087
    My Mood
    Paranoid
    Country
    Country Flag
    Gender
    Gender

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Seymour_Glass View Post
    Well, being in high school, I'm gonna say that Holden Caufield is a distillation of something in me.
    I'm outta highschool n I feel the same way
    if the worlds gonna end then let's get it over with, i got shit to do

  10. #10
    Little Bird Ka-mai has a spectacular aura about Ka-mai has a spectacular aura about Ka-mai has a spectacular aura about Ka-mai's Avatar

    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    East Coast
    Posts
    1,035
    Country
    Country Flag

    Default

    My dad maintains that this book got famous because it was the first book to use the word "fuck." I'm not sure if he's right on that or not, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least. There is nothing interesting about this book at all. Just a whiny kid. Big deal. I mean, I'm more in touch with my childhood and teen years than a lot of people I know, and I don't think I would have enjoyed this then, either. I would have been like "shut the fuck up and get a life, Holden." While I'm sure we thought alike somewhat, why on earth would I want to read about teen angst when I was surrounded by it 24/7?

    I just don't get it. I'd need a reread to make a more coherent rant, but that's what I have off the top of my head.

  11. #11
    Weedeater BROWNINGS CHILDE is a jewel in the rough BROWNINGS CHILDE is a jewel in the rough BROWNINGS CHILDE is a jewel in the rough BROWNINGS CHILDE is a jewel in the rough BROWNINGS CHILDE's Avatar

    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Lubbock, Texas
    Posts
    3,545
    My Mood
    Cynical
    Country
    Country Flag
    Gender
    Gender

    Default

    1. How did you feel about the writing style of the book? I found the writing style to be tiresome at best. Teen angst does not mean that one must repeat the same 10 words over and over and over and over and over and over and over. Even my teenage daughter, who seems to find an adjective that she likes and begins using it to describe every situation much to my dismay, can mix it up a little more.

    I think that this excerpt sums up the writing style pretty well:

    pp: 81-82. "I think if you don't really like a girl, you shouldn't horse around with her at all, and if you do like her, then you're supposed to like her face, and if you like her face, you ought to be careful about doing crumby stuff to it, like squirting water all over it. It's really too bad that so much crumby stuff is a lot of fun sometimes. Girls aren't too much help, either, when you start trying not to get too crumby, when you start trying not to spoil anything really good. I knew this one girl, acouple of years ago, that was even crumbier than I was. Boy, was she crumby! We had a lot of fun, though, for a while, in a crumby way.

    That said, the writing did not completely ruin the book for me. Not every book I read has to be beautifully written prose. I mean, hey, I like Koontz.

    2. For what reason is this book so "hyped"? At a loss to answer this question. I dont think a similar book would have the same success today. The book reminded me of "The Sun Also Rises" by Hemingway. Not, of course, in the vernacular, but in the style. Much of both of these books are disconnected ramblings about this bar or that bar, without much attention to plot. At the end, I didn't hate either book, I just felt myself wondering what was the point.

    3. Why do you think this book has become a modern classic? I think that it is an easy story to identify with. Even though I don't like the writing style, I saw much of myself (as a teen) in the character of Holden. This made it an enjoyable read despite its lack of a compelling storyline or poetic prose.

    Razz, I will be sending you some questions soon.
    Sloth Love Chunk

  12. #12
    shrewd and knavish sprite flaggwalkstheline will become famous soon enough flaggwalkstheline's Avatar

    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    the endless desert of new mexico
    Posts
    2,087
    My Mood
    Paranoid
    Country
    Country Flag
    Gender
    Gender

    Default

    I think one thing about this book illustrated by our various comments is this: either you get it or you dont and if you dont get, you wont
    if the worlds gonna end then let's get it over with, i got shit to do

  13. #13
    The Asset Girlystevedave is a splendid one to behold Girlystevedave is a splendid one to behold Girlystevedave is a splendid one to behold Girlystevedave is a splendid one to behold Girlystevedave is a splendid one to behold Girlystevedave is a splendid one to behold Girlystevedave is a splendid one to behold Girlystevedave's Avatar

    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    6,358

    Default

    I think I may do a re-read of this book since it's been a few years since I read it. I don't remember it impacting me much at the time, but I want to see how I feel another time around. Maybe it just wasn't it's "time" for me then.


    Edit: Could I have used the word "time": any more up there?

  14. #14
    Ash seeketh embers razz has a spectacular aura about razz has a spectacular aura about razz's Avatar

    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Michigan
    Posts
    4,092
    My Mood
    Dead
    Country
    Country Flag

    Default

    questions updated
    Beyond the scope of light, beyond the reach of Dark. . . what could possibly await us?
    And yet, we seek it, insatiably. Such is our fate. . .

  15. #15
    The Tenant Jean has much to be proud of Jean has much to be proud of Jean has much to be proud of Jean has much to be proud of Jean has much to be proud of Jean has much to be proud of Jean has much to be proud of Jean has much to be proud of Jean has much to be proud of Jean has much to be proud of Jean's Avatar

    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Chinatown
    Posts
    22,486
    Country
    Country Flag

    Default

    1. How did you feel about the writing style of the book? It's the only redeeming feature of this book I've been able to find. I always recommend it to my students when I want them to clearly understand that one doesn't have to know a lot of words: one can always do with a hundred or so.

    2. For what reason is this book so "hyped"?

    Quote Originally Posted by flaggwalkstheline
    Holden is the first character of his kind, the wild antisocial young crazy person
    3. Why do you think this book has become a modern classic?

    As ka-mai's father suggested, the word "fuck" must have had a lot to do with this.

    Quote Originally Posted by flaggwalkstheline
    Because everyone who reads it finds something in it they identify with
    No, not everyone. The only two characters that disgust me more than him (of those I am supposed to fucking sympathize with, I mean) are Alex (A Clockwork Orange) and that guy from Rage. Well, at least master Caulfield didn't kill anybody... yet... but he surely paved the way.

    4. If you were to perform a psychoanalysis of Holden, what would your diagnosis be? I wouldn't have the patience, I loathe him way too much. Rich overfed kid syndrome could be an option.

    Quote Originally Posted by ka-mai
    shut the fuck up and get a life, Holden
    5. What words of wisdom, if any, did you think that Holden provided?

    None.

    6. How do you think the title relates to Holden as a character?

    In no way. Should he become the "catcher", he would immediately have become bored and started finding fault with those poor kids like he already has with the rest of mankind.

    7. Why is Holden so afraid of phony people?

    Obviously, because he is a big phony himself.

    I'll elaborate later, when I'm through with my reread.

    Ask not what bears can do for you, but what you can do for bears. (razz)
    When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)

    bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  16. #16
    The Tenant Jean has much to be proud of Jean has much to be proud of Jean has much to be proud of Jean has much to be proud of Jean has much to be proud of Jean has much to be proud of Jean has much to be proud of Jean has much to be proud of Jean has much to be proud of Jean has much to be proud of Jean's Avatar

    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Chinatown
    Posts
    22,486
    Country
    Country Flag

    :!: Poll!!!

    A poll has been added, the same as in the previous two cases.

    Ask not what bears can do for you, but what you can do for bears. (razz)
    When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)

    bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  17. #17
    BAZZINGA candy is a jewel in the rough candy is a jewel in the rough candy is a jewel in the rough candy's Avatar

    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Accrington. England
    Posts
    3,194
    My Mood
    Blah
    Country
    Country Flag
    Gender
    Gender

    Default

    a poll i'm a sucker for a poll
    now you all have to guess how i voted

  18. #18
    Big Coffin Hunter jayson is on a distinguished road

    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    10,971

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by candy View Post
    i'm a sucker for a poll
    It's just not within me to resist saying "that's what she said" about this.

  19. #19
    BAZZINGA candy is a jewel in the rough candy is a jewel in the rough candy is a jewel in the rough candy's Avatar

    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Accrington. England
    Posts
    3,194
    My Mood
    Blah
    Country
    Country Flag
    Gender
    Gender

    Default


  20. #20
    Banned sarajean is on a distinguished road

    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    4,647

    Default



    nice, jayson.

    it has been years since i read this book (at least 15), and while i remember being kind of okay with it, i liked salinger's other work better. my mom absolutely HATED it when i had her read it, though. similar to candy's reaction up there.

  21. #21
    Little Bird Ka-mai has a spectacular aura about Ka-mai has a spectacular aura about Ka-mai has a spectacular aura about Ka-mai's Avatar

    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    East Coast
    Posts
    1,035
    Country
    Country Flag

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by BROWNING'S CHILDE View Post
    pp: 81-82. "I think if you don't really like a girl, you shouldn't horse around with her at all, and if you do like her, then you're supposed to like her face, and if you like her face, you ought to be careful about doing crumby stuff to it, like squirting water all over it. It's really too bad that so much crumby stuff is a lot of fun sometimes. Girls aren't too much help, either, when you start trying not to get too crumby, when you start trying not to spoil anything really good. I knew this one girl, acouple of years ago, that was even crumbier than I was. Boy, was she crumby! We had a lot of fun, though, for a while, in a crumby way.
    I forgot how much he used that fucking word. Every time he said it I thought about green bean casserole, which has crumbs on top.

    Honestly, in regards to what Jean said, I think I identified more with, and found more likeable, Charlie from Rage than Holden. I mean, Holden was just like "blah blah blah" the whole time, but Charlie had legitimate fucked up life problems that made him snap along with a probable mental illness, he wasn't just whining about whatever he felt like. And his little sit-in with the students actually seemed to have a positive impact on them in certain ways (like that chick who never bathed got help from the other girls, etc.), which I think is more productive than anything Holden did. I guess what I'm trying to say is, Holden talked the talk, but Charlie walked the walk. Or something. Fuck. I'm ranting.

  22. #22
    Kate / Batwoman turtlex is on a distinguished road turtlex's Avatar

    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Along The Path Of The Beam
    Posts
    12,602
    My Mood
    Gay

    Default

    Just a quick note, I'll reply more later - the thing to remember about Catcher is that you're reading, basically, the inner voice of a kid. There's not going to be a huge vocabulary and lots of emoting. It's Holden's own inner-dialog.
    The Man In Black Fled Across The Desert...

    ...And The Gunslinger Followed.

    Im always on the Batman rule, sir. - Kate Kane / Detective Comics 857

    "It is the story, not he who tells it." Except to us collectors who have to put limits somewhere. - jhanic

    Remember, Remember, The Fifth of November, The Gunpowder, Treason, and Plot.

  23. #23
    Ash seeketh embers razz has a spectacular aura about razz has a spectacular aura about razz's Avatar

    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Michigan
    Posts
    4,092
    My Mood
    Dead
    Country
    Country Flag

    Default

    It may be rather hard for me to finish this book, since most of my reading time is now devoted to reading up on driving. I'll do my best, but no promises. Either way, this thread will still be here to comment in the future.

    also, too keep at least the illusion of a coherent system, I have posted a thread for book #4
    Beyond the scope of light, beyond the reach of Dark. . . what could possibly await us?
    And yet, we seek it, insatiably. Such is our fate. . .

  24. #24
    Kilgore Trout valtr0n is on a distinguished road valtr0n's Avatar

    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Backwoods
    Posts
    314
    Country
    Country Flag
    Gender
    Gender

    Default

    I liked it.

    I don't get the hatred or dislike for any book. It's like being mad at a chocolate sundae.

    Just because you didn't "get it" or it didn't appeal to you doesn't mean it's a bad book. It just means that it's not for you. Books work like music. Different music speaks to different people. Maybe if you'd read it at some other point in time, or if you read it at some future point in time, it'll speak to you in way's you missed the first time. This happens with literature. You've got to be in the right frame of mind sometimes.

    And I do think Holden wants to be a "catcher." He realizes that it's too late for him, his mind is already corrupted, but he still wants to save other children from his fate. He's a good kid. He's just a confused kid. I think he represents the best and worst in all of us.


    Don't you get it?! We are the walking dead! We are the walking dead...

  25. #25
    Oz the Gweat and Tewwible mae has a brilliant future mae has a brilliant future mae has a brilliant future mae has a brilliant future mae has a brilliant future mae has a brilliant future mae has a brilliant future mae has a brilliant future mae has a brilliant future mae has a brilliant future mae has a brilliant future mae's Avatar

    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    New Jersey
    Posts
    23,305
    Country
    Country Flag
    Gender
    Gender

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by BROWNING'S CHILDE View Post
    I think that this excerpt sums up the writing style pretty well:

    pp: 81-82. "I think if you don't really like a girl, you shouldn't horse around with her at all, and if you do like her, then you're supposed to like her face, and if you like her face, you ought to be careful about doing crumby stuff to it, like squirting water all over it. It's really too bad that so much crumby stuff is a lot of fun sometimes. Girls aren't too much help, either, when you start trying not to get too crumby, when you start trying not to spoil anything really good. I knew this one girl, acouple of years ago, that was even crumbier than I was. Boy, was she crumby! We had a lot of fun, though, for a while, in a crumby way.
    I find repetition is a great writing tool. To each his own, I guess. Here, I think, it works to a great effect.

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts