alright so i did alot more thinking and i am starting to think that rolands guns where more like the Smith and Wesson model 3 schofields
alright so i did alot more thinking and i am starting to think that rolands guns where more like the Smith and Wesson model 3 schofields
Humm....
Never thought about "pop tops"! Good choice!
yea i was looking in a gun shop and i saw them and they sorta popped out at me and i thought huh maybe
i thought about schofields also, after i saw the new 3:10 to yuma. but king says in parts the Roland rolls the cylinder out. its like a never ending maze. but i think lead dealers thougts are most acurate.
Fellow gun junkes of the tower
Hate to have this thread once again fall into obscurity. Please, discuss, share pictures....
It was brought up earlyer on what you think apprentices guns looked like. Any more imput on them, other than my rambelings?
anyone???
Beuler.....???
Beuler?........
Well, rereading Wolves and I am now under the impression that this is Jake's piece:
As for the irons of the Eld, I still think of something like this(bottom one):
^^ You're saying that one looks like Jake's?? - Surely Jake's was an automatic?Originally Posted by Munchausen
Well, rereading Wolves and I am now under the impression that this is Jake's piece:
Sorry - can't see your bottom pic - work-filter has it banned as 'weapons'
Really? That's just wrong..... I'm confuzzled.
Came across this picture when doing some searching today... thought it might apply here, friend. From the comics :
The Man In Black Fled Across The Desert...
...And The Gunslinger Followed.
“I’m always on the Batman rule, sir.” - Kate Kane / Detective Comics 857
"It is the story, not he who tells it." Except to us collectors who have to put limits somewhere. - jhanic
Remember, Remember, The Fifth of November, The Gunpowder, Treason, and Plot.
That looks like something from Wizard and Glass. I remember the weapons in the arsenal in Gilead as having metal grips for some reason. Something to do with Roland's encounter with Stephen after his night with the whore.
Really I thought that jakes gun was one of the many early ruger semi autos. One of the "P" sereis. I don't know, my work filter (courtacy of the us gov't) gave me the dreded "red X" for that picture.
The "apprentice pistol" in the comic illistration is in fact a early (if not model 1) Smith and Wesson. An inexpencive (when new) pistol in a small managable caliber (32. S&W). So many neat weapons in the dark tower sereis. From the flintlock blunderbuss that the barkeep carried, will ill results for her in the wolves, mp-40's, barettas to sneetches and ar15's.
I'm gonna scan Wolves again. Thing is Jake's piece is a (blank)hawk. Of that much I am certain.
No, the gun jake brought from New York (which he took from his father's desk) was described as a .44 Ruger Automatic (which I've seen experts argue simply does not exist in that calibre).
definitely an auto or semi-auto or whatever and NOT a revolver. remember when jake packed it in his rucksack in NY he made very sure to keep the gun & the CLIPS separate!
Gah!
Just gah.
Point taken. Still, I have to wonder what Roland considers a worthy firearm. He didn't think much of the Colt M1919a1 IIRC.
Do not worry jakes pistol has thrown many of a gun guy.... Myself included....
Colt 1919a1?
Sorry for this, but the 1919 is a belt fed air cooled 30.06 machine gun. Colt made a watercooled version, the colt m1926 comercial.
The 1911a1 (manufactured by colt and so many others) is the old .45 caliber marbel chucker that has served the american servicem man since he was killing morros in the phillipiens in the 19 teens. Worthy, maybe.
Roland would proably refer to it as "cheap". I do not think the gunslinger cares for semi autos much. He refers to belt fed machine guns as "rediculious".....
In a world where the "way of the gun" has fallen down. A well aimed revolver would rain supreme in a world of possiably better, yet poorly aimed guns.......
Not much memory fer numbers...Put an "M" in front of it and I'm lost.
I could see Roland stereotyping shootists just like cops and soldiers do today. They see a ganger with a Tech9 or some other wonder-niner, they think "rank amateur". They still have some respect for the lead headed their way but invest confidence in their superiour tactics and training usually affording a predictable outcome.
Wonder if he'd see the rationall of supression and maneuver over marksmanship or just consider it a lazy waste of ammo.
Say true, say true.....
that last one is one of my creations to come out of the shop. client wanted a ww2 looking gun that could hold a good grouping with a crisp trigger, this was it.....
Last edited by lead dealer; 05-06-2009 at 09:50 AM. Reason: add pictures
I was always surprised that at the beginning of the Drawing of Three King took away one of the gunslinger's shooting hands . . . thus disabling one of his guns. Especially seeing as important as his guns were to him.
Si King added one heck of a plot device with that crippling. Made it essential that he recruit some help for his quest to the tower...
... plus a good two-handed Roland would never have let anyone even touch one of his Guns, therefore no new Gunslingers. yes, that crippling was esential to the whole story.
I can't see any of those images... Says I'm not privileged enough, can someone help me out here?Say true, say true.....
that last one is one of my creations to come out of the shop. client wanted a ww2 looking gun that could hold a good grouping with a crisp trigger, this was it.....
Cheers
koz---it looks like a colt model 1911-A1 as originally configured per Army request.
blued, spur hammer, lanyard loop, back strap palm swell & military sights [small, fixed]
as for how he smithed it......
make a fire for a man and you warm him for the nite
light him on fire and you warm him for the rest of his life
Looks like a case of the spam blocker strikeing again. I get the dreded "red X" about 90% of the time. Infernal gov't computer filter!!!!
I think a major thing people have overlooked is the fact that even though certain attributes don't match guns from our world, there are other worlds than these.
It may very well be a version of a colt from another world. The gun's version of nozz-a-la.
I have a feeling that these guns come from somewhere more special than a standard gun maker. For example, the sound of the gun seems to carry much more force than the caliber it uses normally would.
Yet we have found, oh dear constant reader, Some that come close.
The "Guns of the elid" Would have to be a custom job If someone wanted one from me and my shop, It would be well over $1000. The engraving alone would be a 1/3 of that, and take many sleepless nights. A great deal of artistry would have to go into crafting these fine instruments. I can only assume that it took my Gilied counterpart many a month to turn out one of what would later be Rolands pistols, let alone a matched set!!
As far as the knockdown power. .45 acp (what goes in the 1911 .45 and a version of the colt new service) Has about as advertised. Lots of displaced energy when that fat 230grain slug makes contact with soft tissue. The old saying from countless American troops since 1912. ".45 Ball stops em' all". You can assume that the discerning gunslinger values the merits of the "hard caliber"!
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