Let's talk about him a little bit more.
Do you like him?
Is he a child or an adult in your eyes?
If you ask me I see him as a very brave child with a gunslinger heart and abilities but he is still a kid in my eyes.
He is a child.
He is an adult.
He is somewhere between.
Let's talk about him a little bit more.
Do you like him?
Is he a child or an adult in your eyes?
If you ask me I see him as a very brave child with a gunslinger heart and abilities but he is still a kid in my eyes.
Roland would have understood.
Towards the end, I saw him as grown up. In my opinion, the depth of someones maturity is based almost entirely on experience.
I would want the guy backing me up for any fight I was in and I would never feel that way about a child.
The kindness of close friends is like a warm blanket
I see Jake as being some of both. You could make arguments for him being either that would sound logical, so I voted for the both option. Yes, by the end of the story, he has grown in maturity by leaps and bounds (in fact he's more mature than some people I know around my age in some ways ). He is able to handle the responsibilties of an adult, and is able to execute his adult responsibilites with great efficiency. Also, as Matt mentioned, Jake already has more life experience than some people have in their entire lives, so that adds to his maturity.
At the same time, he also still retains a lot of what makes a kid, a kid. In the heat of the battle he clearly displays the heart of a true Gunslinger, but during the downtime, when he is not performing any of his duty of being a Gunslinger, he can just transform into a kid again. Laughing at silly jokes with Eddie, having the thoughts that someone of his age would be having, and seeing his experiences, and the world, through the eyes of someone his age. He manages to hold onto his youthful emotions, even while being able to have a backbone of steel when need be, but he also still retains the emotions of someone his age, he is just able to store those away when performing his duties as a Gunslinger, but then he is able to revert back to some sort of a normal boy when his duties have been completed. One thing from book 7 that exemplifies this, which I will mark with a spoiler tag is.Spoiler:
Somewhere in between. As Matt mentioned, Jake would certainly make a good back up...Hell, Id be the back up LOL!
XIX
"See the TURTLE of enormous girth,
On his shell he holds the earth.
If you want to run and play,
Come along the BEAM today."
NFA JJG 42-95
I voted child, as Nikolett did. Kids are all different, you know. If you look at military history, you'll see a lot of kids behaving like little adults, fighting and dying and doing all that adult stuff; and still remaining children, which could be seen at the moments of peace, or when those who survived were placed back into normal environment. They never were "like any other kids", but then again, what kid is?
Ask not what bears can do for you, but what you can do for bears. (razz)
When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)
bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The way he loves Oy.. the way the can open his heart to a little animal.. and the way he can forgive things..
He is too clean to be an adult.
Does it make any sense?
Roland would have understood.
I voted adult, I think he shows responsibility for himself and others, and that is my idea of what it means to be an adult...and Iabsolutely agree I'd have his back-up anyday!!
The answer is within
all matter is energy, all energy is GOD
1. I don't think loving Oy or opening his heart has anything to do with him being a child.
2. Generally speaking, I don't believe in children's purity. I am inclined to differ purity as virtue from innocence caused by ignorance (which we too often mistake for purity in children).
Ask not what bears can do for you, but what you can do for bears. (razz)
When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)
bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1. As I wrote it the way he loved him... not the fact but the way.
2. I can see your point Jean but I don't agree. I suffered so much as a child from other children.. they hurt me every single day and when I went to sleep and when nobody saw me I cried for hours.
Of course it doesn't mean I didn't cry in fron of them. I did. So if someone I know how evil children can be believe me Jean.
But I am over it and I see children.
They can be nasty they can be evil.. but still I say there is something so innocent and good in all of them... the oh so clear desire to be loved and accepted.
Time and this world can kill it out.
Roland would have understood.
I voted child. I guess one could argue that he "won a test of manhood" after the fight with the Wolves (or in the Dixie Pig) but his manliness would only be in two of the seven books so for me, Jake is a child.
More so than Eddie and Susannah, I saw Jake as a natural born gunslinger. He had things about him which made him both childlike and adultlike, in my opinion.
A true firewasp ninja would never wear such a ridiculous sweater.
There's logic in nonsense.
Give me all the bacon and eggs you have.
Brice, now I see your point. The question is if someonething is so damn deep in a human soul that noone is able to dig it out... can we count with it?
Roland would have understood.
He's an adult..
Responsibility, experience, seen more than enough to be considered an adult. Maturity comes not with age but with wisdom and experience. So in my book he's an adult.
"Go then there are other worlds than these..."
A child.
He still has those childhood fears (the mindtrap being a prime example) also what Vols said in the spoiler tags. Yet, much more than just this.
I'm not sure I could pinpoint the exact moment in a persons life when they become an adult (I'm sure it would differ too) - but its not solely age OR experience - more a combination of the two. Even though I would very sincerely respect Jake and the experiences he has had, he'd still be a child to me.
Bump.
Seriously, no-one wants to discuss Jake?