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Thread: Eyes of the Dragon - Let's Discuss! *SPOILERS*

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    :radioactive: Eyes of the Dragon - Let's Discuss! *SPOILERS*

    I just noticed that there is no "Lets Discuss - EotD" thread, I'm 3/4 through this book and I've had it less than a day. I am absolutely in love with this book right now and I can't wait to discuss it, I'm going through it so fast I almost forgot to put a library hold on the Talisman, so I would have been without something to read for a day or 2 (Can't even comprehend what that would be like)

    Anyway wasn't sure if this was something anyone could do or if it had to be a mod. I don't like to step on toes.

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    You can go ahead and start a forum.

    As for Eyes of the Dragon, I also really enjoyed this book. I first read it when the limited edition was published (yes, I read my copy of the limited) because at that time (1984), there were no plans to publish a trade edition. The trade edition came out in 1987.

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    The interplay between the brothers I found very interesting, as was Flagg's urging Thomas to betray his family. Flagg really was a bad guy!


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    Yes i loved this book too

    The words written upon this paper, are none compared to the words written upon my heart

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    EotD is one of several King books that I've reread numerous times. I've always loved this book, mostly for the reasons John named in the spoiler-tagged part of his post.

    I also like that it's a very quick and easy read. It makes for a nice change of pace from the longer epic King novels (which I also love).

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    Could a mod maybe change the title to something a little more appropriate for the book? Seems I can't edit it.

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    yeah, why not just make this the EotD thread?

    I just finished reading my second time through. Last year this cool Russian teacher named Mr. Barbarisch suggested it to me. (actually i think he may have threatened my health. just kidding. i think.). It. was. awesome!

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    done
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    Thanks Odetta!

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    I loved this book a lot. King is amazing. It's a book I would read out from my 4-year-old girl as well. And that's something.

    Roland would have understood.

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    My big question is, it seems that the narrator hints to other stories in which some side stories are involved. I'm thinking along the lines of when the 2 leave at the end he says that in fact they do eventually catch up with Flagg and confront him, but there are more through the story. Are there some short stories somewhere that finish the tale? I really really want to know what happens. Grrrrrr

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    EotD was the second King story I ever read. It was astounding and so absorbing I stayed up all night reading it. I was 15 and read it because my brother told me I should. He was sooooo right.
    I've often wished since learning of the end of Flagg's story that we had heard of the middle part where Thomas and Dennis caught up with him, but King decided to leave that open ended (like most fairy tales).
    EotD is the book that truly hooked me. It spurred me on to want to see what else this author had to say, and I have never looked back. I have reread EotD probably half a dozen times easily, most likely more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Catoe View Post
    EotD is the book that truly hooked me. It spurred me on to want to see what else this author had to say, and I have never looked back. I have reread EotD probably half a dozen times easily, most likely more.
    It's funny I was just finishing the first King book I ever read (Misery) and while leafing through the list of published books I noticed I've never (can you believe it), read EotD. I did a bit of Googling on the title and I had no idea how closely linked the characters are to TDT.

    Now the tricky part. I've scoured all the second hand stores for a copy with no luck. I may have to bite the bullet and go to the big box Chapters. meanwhile I've reserved a copy through the local library and should have it within the week. I'm very much looking forward to the read.

    I'll be joining some discussion on the matter I'm sure once I've finished the book though.

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    Look on ebay, you should be able to get a decent hardcover on the cheap. It's worth owning so you can read it again at your leisure.
    Margaret Emmie Mackey Catoe, you are, have been, and always will be my soulmate, and I love you.
    Con todo mi corazon, por todo de mis dias. And I always will, in this life and into the next.

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    Well I've finished it and I have to say it's a real nice story.
    I can't see me reading it again so I'm glad I borrowed it from the Library.
    It sure doesn't compare to the literary style of his later works.
    I too would like to read a story of how Thomas catches up with Flagg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    I too would like to read a story of how Thomas catches up with Flagg.
    Yeah, so would the rest of us. I've been waiting years for King to deliver on that one.

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    I'm sure i read eotd when it first came out in the uk in 1988.
    After looking at some of the posts here i gave it a reread,you know what i
    could not recall any of the story but i am still sure i read it back in 1988.
    Anyway it was a great story,i wish i could forget the DT books so i could
    read them again for the first time.If you have not read eotd give it a go.

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    *Ok, takes book down from the shelf, starts a reread.*

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    What did you feel about Thomas? Could you be really angry with him?
    Somehow I couldn't. I liked his character so much. He was so weak and so human-like. The way I see it he wasn't an evil or a bad person still he could do horrible things.

    Roland would have understood.

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    I'm shocked that you didn't seem to care for it Ryan. Maybe it's because I was younger when I first read it, but this story drew me in so much that I had to keep turning the pages. When I finished, I had to read more by this man who dragged me into his world and held me hostage. I have read the story more timea than I have read any other book, and each time I find something new about it. I'm sorry you did not have a similar experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Letti View Post
    What did you feel about Thomas? Could you be really angry with him?
    Somehow I couldn't. I liked his character so much. He was so weak and so human-like. The way I see it he wasn't an evil or a bad person still he could do horrible things.
    Huh...I answered this question two hours ago and it's not here! Damn! Now I have to remember what I said.....

    Thomas is a prime example of why Stephen King is my favorite author. Thomas is so three dimensional, you could see yourself behaving the way he does if put in the same circumstances. He was merely a boy who wanted the love of a father who already had a favorite son. When Thomas overhears his father say the boat Thomas worked so hard to make for him looked like "a turd with a sail," (or something like that) I just cringe for him! Considering the way Flagg manipulated him, beginning at an early age, it's easy to understand why he behaved the way he did. Thomas is as much a victim as Peter. I've never really thought of Thomas as a bad guy at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Catoe View Post
    I'm shocked that you didn't seem to care for it Ryan. Maybe it's because I was younger when I first read it, but this story drew me in so much that I had to keep turning the pages. When I finished, I had to read more by this man who dragged me into his world and held me hostage. I have read the story more timea than I have read any other book, and each time I find something new about it. I'm sorry you did not have a similar experience.
    S'Ok. They can't all be gold. I think now a 'younger' audience is key here. He writes on the jacket that it was his daughters favorite at 13. I can see that. I think it's the right age group for this book. Dragons, mystery, suspense... very teenage. No offence intended to any and all.
    I'm sure I would have had a different perspective had I read this novel at a younger age. As with all things though, there's no going back.
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    I felt very sorry for Thomas, I believe how we act is a product of our environment. And with his father acting and saying things about Thomas the way he did you could see something like that coming

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    S'Ok, now I'm curious.
    While tripping around the DT web site just now I scroll to the bottom and click "connections". Here I scroll down to see, other than Flagg, how this book connects to the DT series. It mentions "In addition to Flagg, the characters of Thomas and Dennis make brief appearances in books 2 and 4 as they pursue Flagg."
    I'm trying as best I can to remember in the DoTT where and what Thomas and Dennis are doing and I can't for the life of me remember. Nor do I remember what part they play in Book 4 WotG.
    Can anyone, as I'm sure there is, help me out here.
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    Ryan, I vaguely remember someone commenting to the Gunslinger Ka-tet that there were rumors of two men, Tomas and Dennis, looking for Flagg. I'm not sure which books this occurred.

    John

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    The reference to the two men, and Flagg is during Drawing of the Three,
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    when Roland is on the beach. He is thinking about the different wizards he has met, and he remembers a wizard who he thinks is a demon called Flagg, who was pursued by two men, Thomas and Dennis. The scene isn't expanded on.

    In Wizard and Glass, I think Flagg is briefly referenced but only in the sense that Flagg mentions having seen Roland before during the fall of Gilead.

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