Sometimes I don't feel it would be my decision that I forgive... my anger vanishes.. the bad memories faint into the past... and one day to the other I feel it doesn't matter anymore. And I could forgive.
But yeah.. sometimes I feel it's my decision.
Roland would have understood.
Thank you very much!! Sometimes people think my views are pessimistic - I've even been called nihilistic (thats generally in religious D&D thoughOriginally Posted by All_Hail_The_Crimson_King
) but to my own mind I just try and tell it like I see it and consider my self to be an optimist.
I think Jung was quite accurate with his shadowself theory and to that end I think we also project an image of how we'd like to be, rather than how we actually are.
Good question! I think a bit of both - if the opposite of forgiveness is say, bearing a grudge, then I think sometimes you do forgive without intending to,ie: if you're a fairly healthy (mentally) person I think its hard to bear grudges (even when you might initially intend to) and thats the sort of instance when forgiveness comes of its own accord.
I love the way you word thingsAnd the third
*thinks*
step is to open those doors we had closed inside us before.I also think thats an accurate way to describe it.
I'm not sure...I certainly think its possible to never have had the ability to forgive in the first place - say in a person who's never received love or care, someone with a deeply disturbed upbringing - someone who's socio/psychopathic - I'm not sure theres any hope of such a person ever learning to forgive (although I'm sure there are exceptions).can we lose the ability to forgive?
But to lose the ability, if before you were open to the concept...yeah - I guess under very harsh circumstances its possible. Someone who's been wrongfully imprisoned say. But ultimately such a person would want to move on/forgive wouldn't they?
*hugs the girl above*
Roland would have understood.
I have a situation I am in right now where I will never choose to forgive, not to my dying day.
However, I do think I have that choice and can exercise it if I need to.
The kindness of close friends is like a warm blanket
Oh... I am really sorry Matt that you are in such a situation. *hugs you*
Roland would have understood.
Thanks Letti, it is very hard. And family to boot
I want to be the type of person that forgives and I almost always do but once you get pushed too far..you have to cut a person out of your movie.
/end pity party for Matty
<--me and Letti
The kindness of close friends is like a warm blanket
Exactly... your choice... it is not uncontrollable.
Buddy, you think you look strong? You’re wearing a cape.
I didn't see your post before I posted Odetta (seriously slow at typing) but I agree that mostly its a choice - though in the case of someone who was really disturbed, I doubt they would even recognise that they had a choice at all.
true... if we are talking about the seriously disturbed, they may not feel they have an option.
Buddy, you think you look strong? You’re wearing a cape.
Does not make sense to me because I don't think there is anything to forgive him for.
You say that you have nothing to forgive him or he has never done anything anybody should forgive?Does not make sense to me because I don't think there is anything to forgive him for.
Because they are not the same.
(I edited the poll a little bit. I think now it shows more.)
Roland would have understood.
Can I edit my vote then? I don't know how.
I do not think there is any need to forgive Roland. Roland is who he is.
So that would make my vote #4 I think.
Cry your pardon, sai but I have already edited your vote. I hope you don't mind.
*hopes*
Roland would have understood.
If you put my vote as #4...then we are as right as rain.
Yesyes. That was my first thing to do when I edited the poll. (You can see we have less votes at 3#)
I should have given that option when I started the poll.. but sadly I can't think with other people's minds.
Roland would have understood.
Roland is as Roland does!!!
Roland and you
What's your strongest feeling about Roland? Did it change during the quest? What are the reasons?
If I missed something very important from the poll, let me know and I will edit it.
Roland would have understood.
Letti...you and roland...ahem
Anyway i say my strongest feeling for roland is...Respect, followed by hate. Even thoe i despise roland in certain ways, his determination to reach the tower and to not let anyone stop him neither friend nor foe, cant help but admire that.
So, earthlings..basically urm...end of the world...Here Come The Drums!
Wow.
You could surprise me.
Roland would have understood.
Errr....why?
So, earthlings..basically urm...end of the world...Here Come The Drums!
Pity for me--I love Roland but I pity him.
The kindness of close friends is like a warm blanket
Now it's there. Thank you.
Roland would have understood.
I respect the man for all that he had to endure
Amazement. His ability to continue despite all he has seen and all he has done is nothing short of amazing for me. Whatever befalls him, he continues. Whatever obstacles appear in his path, he finds a way around or over them.
Another thing i respect him for being able to do is move on, even more so after susans death, if i was in rolands place and felt like he did then i dont think i could of carried on and would of welcomed death.
So, earthlings..basically urm...end of the world...Here Come The Drums!
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