Beautiful Mike. Can't beat that !
Beautiful Mike. Can't beat that !
Oh my goodness Mike. I'm salivating over those Gunslinger proofs! I'm jealous....congratulations on owning them!
Nice, Mike!
Thanks. Each one was obtained rather "luckily" in my mind.
Not too many of them around.
Very Cool Mike!
Want to share some details on how/where you found them?Originally Posted by Pasiuk57
Those are simply awesome, Mike! I only own one of them!
John
I did not keep records of past transactions(normally). I've started to get better at it lately.
They have been mine for a LONG time.
Awesome Mike!!!!
Can someone tell me what is the difference between PROOF and ARC?
Is one better than the other?
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My personal definition: an ARC looks more like a paperback version of the final book (with cover art), and a proof looks more 'primitive' and simple. I would say that a proof is produced at an earlier stage in the process. But in reality there is much overlap and you will see many different names: advance reader's copy, advance uncorrected proofs, uncorrected proofs, proofs, galley proofs and whatever. Sometimes you see books that I would call ARCs (for example, from Cemetery Dance) but they call them 'advance uncorrected proofs'. There is no right or wrong.
Most people will simply call all these variations 'proofs'.
A good definition.
John
Like Michaël said there is a lot of overlap in the use of terms. Recently it's gotten a bit out of hand. Today "proof" is used for any copy available prior to the actual release date. Sometimes a book will have a variety of proofs. Sometimes they will have only one. Sometimes none.
Galley Proof: These are unbound, unformatted and uncorrected proofs. Usually printed on long sheets of paper. They are used as a help in production.
Uncorrected Proof: This is the first time the manuscript becomes a book. These are made once the book is somewhat formatted and the text somewhat proofread. It is usually in wrappers without binding or artwork. These proofs are made for proofreading and formatting. Sometimes there are more than one of these issued, as corrections and formatting changes are made.
Advance Reading Copy/Edition (ARC/ARE): Once the formatting and proofreading are accomplished an ARC is often produced. These are for reviewers, booksellers, etc.. They are still proofs since they are not final. Sometimes errors are found or changes are made after these are released. These are usually also in wrappers though the cover art is often present.
Review Copy: A review copy can be an ARC, though those are usually called ARCs. It more commonly is a first edition, with a letter stating it is a review copy, sent out to reviewers, booksellers, etc., prior to the books release.
There are others in existence, like the interoffice unbound proofs that CD uses.
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$275 start is pricey:
The talisman uncorrected unpunished proof by Stephen King. Sealed
Also, correct me if I'm wrong but many times there's only a proof, and no ARC for a book. For example some of the blue Scribner proofs which are printed with the words "Advanced Uncorrected Proof". It's not like they also issued another edition with the full cover artwork for reviewers and called it an ARC. Unless they did have an internal proof copy, and what we're seeing is the "ARC", which I don't believe is the case.Like Michaël said there is a lot of overlap in the use of terms. Recently it's gotten a bit out of hand. Today "proof" is used for any copy available prior to the actual release date. Sometimes a book will have a variety of proofs. Sometimes they will have only one. Sometimes none.
Galley Proof: These are unbound, unformatted and uncorrected proofs. Usually printed on long sheets of paper. They are used as a help in production.
Uncorrected Proof: This is the first time the manuscript becomes a book. These are made once the book is somewhat formatted and the text somewhat proofread. It is usually in wrappers without binding or artwork. These proofs are made for proofreading and formatting. Sometimes there are more than one of these issued, as corrections and formatting changes are made.
Advance Reading Copy/Edition (ARC/ARE): Once the formatting and proofreading are accomplished an ARC is often produced. These are for reviewers, booksellers, etc.. They are still proofs since they are not final. Sometimes errors are found or changes are made after these are released. These are usually also in wrappers though the cover art is often present.
Review Copy: A review copy can be an ARC, though those are usually called ARCs. It more commonly is a first edition, with a letter stating it is a review copy, sent out to reviewers, booksellers, etc., prior to the books release.
There are others in existence, like the interoffice unbound proofs that CD uses.
I think these definitions are spot on. I'd say that the CD Unbounds would actually fall somewhere between a Galley (" ... unbound ... Usually printed on long sheets of paper. They are used as a help in production") and an Uncorrected Proof ("..... These are made once the book is somewhat formatted and the text somewhat proofread .... These proofs are made for proofreading and formatting. Sometimes there are more than one of these issued, as corrections and formatting changes are made."). Maybe we should name them Publications Requiring Optimal Organization From Source.Like Michaël said there is a lot of overlap in the use of terms. Recently it's gotten a bit out of hand. Today "proof" is used for any copy available prior to the actual release date. Sometimes a book will have a variety of proofs. Sometimes they will have only one. Sometimes none.
Galley Proof: These are unbound, unformatted and uncorrected proofs. Usually printed on long sheets of paper. They are used as a help in production.
Uncorrected Proof: This is the first time the manuscript becomes a book. These are made once the book is somewhat formatted and the text somewhat proofread. It is usually in wrappers without binding or artwork. These proofs are made for proofreading and formatting. Sometimes there are more than one of these issued, as corrections and formatting changes are made.
Advance Reading Copy/Edition (ARC/ARE): Once the formatting and proofreading are accomplished an ARC is often produced. These are for reviewers, booksellers, etc.. They are still proofs since they are not final. Sometimes errors are found or changes are made after these are released. These are usually also in wrappers though the cover art is often present.
Review Copy: A review copy can be an ARC, though those are usually called ARCs. It more commonly is a first edition, with a letter stating it is a review copy, sent out to reviewers, booksellers, etc., prior to the books release.
There are others in existence, like the interoffice unbound proofs that CD uses.
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I think you are right, at least for the big publishers. I can't recall a King title that had both a proof and an ARC (unless we also include the fuzzy category 'manuscript proofs'). Of course, we don't get to see every different stage in the pre-publication process but the bound states tend to end up on the secondary market eventually, so we can make a sort-of-educated guess.
On the other hand, I own both a proof and an ARC of Michael Crichton's book Sphere. So who knows? That's what makes proof collecting interesting!
I have a proof and an ARC of one of Peter Straub's books, too. In a case like this, the proofs are generally done for long-lead markets like Publishers Weekly, which need to read books long before any other venue.
Author of The Road to the Dark Tower, Stephen King: A Complete Exploration of His Work, Life, and Influences and The Dark Tower Companion. Co-editor with Stephen King of the anthology Flight or Fright.
Yeah, makes sense.
Very nice, Mike! Congratulations!
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Lisey's Story - Stephen King Rare HTF Scribner ARC Advance Readers Edition Proof
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John
Very nice Matt. I like the Legacies one. I don't see it much, but when I do it's $700+. I was surprised at that price. I'm guessing it's really rare?
I'd sell mine for $700
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