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  • Oh, I liked him.

    11 30.56%
  • He is okay but I wouldn't like to have a coffee with him for long.

    10 27.78%
  • He was hardly bearable.

    6 16.67%
  • I couldn't stand him at all.

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    Default Calvin Tower

    I am rereading the Wolves right now... and I can't help the more I read about this old greedy man the more I like him. Really.
    What about you? How did you feel about him? Could he stand and be true?

    Roland would have understood.

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    poor Calvin... he is not interesting enough to get posts *sigh*

    Roland would have understood.

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    I couldn't stand the guy. But he did help in a way.
    All that's left of what we were is what we have become.

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    I was really hoping that Eddie was going to lose it and strangle him to death in Song of Susannah.

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    What didn't you like him? I mean there are tons of reasons that's why I ask it. There are too many things about him you can dislike.

    Roland would have understood.

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    Greedy and pretentious...those were the worst two qualities.
    All that's left of what we were is what we have become.

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    I liked him. I'm not really sure why though.
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    I voted "okay" because he reminds me a bit of King's character in the books. He knew what he had to do, but decided to do his own thing. In King's case, he was afraid to continue. In Tower's case, his greed got the better of him.

    If Deepneau wasn't with him the whole time, the Tet Corporation may likely have died in 1977.

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    Quote Originally Posted by obscurejude View Post
    I was really hoping that Eddie was going to lose it and strangle him to death in Song of Susannah.
    Same here. The guy was a greedy selfish prick.

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    I liked him because he was such a huge pain in the ass and yet helpful to Roland's ka-tet, which is such an amusing combination. I then liked him even more when I found out how much Monte hates him.
    "It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.

    "When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah

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    Quote Originally Posted by R_of_G View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by obscurejude View Post
    I was really hoping that Eddie was going to lose it and strangle him to death in Song of Susannah.
    Same here. The guy was a greedy selfish prick.
    I ditto these guys.

    I liked him in The Wastelands when Jake first met him. But, gods, I wanted him to die in SoS.... wasn't he in WotC too? Yeah, that's when i stopped liking him. I didn't even bother to feel bad for him that Kind turned him into a selfish prick. I just started to dislike him.

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    I hated him. Too selfish

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    Quote Originally Posted by All_Hail_The_Crimson_King View Post
    I liked him because he was such a huge pain in the ass and yet helpful to Roland's ka-tet, which is such an amusing combination. I then liked him even more when I found out how much Monte hates him.
    You hit the nail right on the head. Thank you. I couldn't put it into words.

    Roland would have understood.

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    This guy drove me mad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theBeamisHome View Post
    I liked him in The Wastelands when Jake first met him. But, gods, I wanted him to die in SoS.... wasn't he in WotC too? Yeah, that's when i stopped liking him. I didn't even bother to feel bad for him that Kind turned him into a selfish prick. I just started to dislike him.
    I largely agree with this. He was a very charming character in the Waste Lands and a friend to Jake in the few minutes they were together in the shop. It was a shame in some ways that he turned into a greedy old man, yet most understandable too. He was infuriating, but I never stopped liking him altogether.

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    Default A little question

    hey people, there's something on my mind- why didn't they take calvin tower to calla, instead of sending him to maine? wouldnt that be an easier way? -though sai king had probably explained it in the book, i just can't remember..
    “The thing under my bed waiting to grab my ankle isn’t real. I know that, and I also know that if I’m careful to keep my foot under the covers, it will never be able to grab my ankle.”

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    My thoughts on this are that it just wasn't something that King thought of doing at the time. HOWEVER, heres my personal take on it.

    The trip through the doorways has been shown to be very, very traumatic for people that arn't part of Roland's Tet (see Jack Andolini). Given Tower's ...wimpish nature... it can be assumed that his psyche might not have survived the travel from New York to Doorway Cave.

    There's also the distinct possibility that Ka wouldn't have allowed them to take him through the door, and (consider this) bringing him into Roland's world would have given the Red King plenty of opportunity to simply kill him and take him out of the picture.

    Also, remember that Tower saves Callahan after Mr.Dean saves him from the mob. Between this moment and the battle with the Wolves, a *huge* amount of time passes in the keystone world. Although Callahan is in the story at this time, the fact that Tower wasnt there to save him would create a paradox in which The Father simply winks out of existance.

    Hope these ideas are helpful!

    - Calvin is the keeper of the Rose in Keystone New York. It is very likely that, had he entered the door, it would have taken him from the true line that his fathers

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    yeah i understand, but they could take him to calla, then send him again? or it doesnt work that way? they havent even tried to take him. but they have easily taken the bookcase.
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    I agree with everything Anjerith said.
    Apart from that they'd have to convince him and A LOT of explaining to do. Also, they had a war to fight in Calla. They didn't know if they would live after that.

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    I chose hardly bearable... Didn't like the guy very much.


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    I think that, as he grew older, King's own opinion on guys like Calvin Tower changed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pathoftheturtle View Post
    I think that, as he grew older, King's own opinion on guys like Calvin Tower changed.
    Why do you think so?!

    Roland would have understood.

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    Calvin Tower is an interesting, annoying, little man. I like him
    Is there a topic anywhere that explains how he and Depneau
    Spoiler:
    learned that they had to save Callahan in 1981? Did Eddie tell him? I think I missed that somewhere in the books.


    and also what about his grandfather's

    Spoiler:
    letter about Roland?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lisaki View Post
    Calvin Tower is an interesting, annoying, little man. I like him
    Is there a topic anywhere that explains how he and Depneau
    Spoiler:
    learned that they had to save Callahan in 1981? Did Eddie tell him? I think I missed that somewhere in the books.


    and also what about his grandfather's

    Spoiler:
    letter about Roland?
    We have no thread about your first question but here is the answer:
    Spoiler:
    Roland and Eddie told the old guys to go and save Callahan when they visited them to write and get the contract about the rose and the vacant lot.


    But for the second one we do have a thread here:
    http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/...ead.php?t=3688

    Roland would have understood.

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