Absolutely. Moreover, I would beg to differ between love and guilty conscience.Originally Posted by Darkthoughts
A deep faithful one.
Hot but light.
I don't understand this question...
Absolutely. Moreover, I would beg to differ between love and guilty conscience.
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When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)
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Yes, I thought to myself - how long would Roland's love (and his consequent memory of it) had lasted had it not been cut so tragically short?
It's interesting that he saw Susan in the pink grapefruit, because it made the analogy to me of viewing your first love through rose tinted glasses.
I think it's most tragic if the love is equal -- if either loevd more than the other, the tragedy is lessened.
I don't like this notion of "one can love someone more than the other". It really not fair. Each individual person carries their own capacity for feelings whether good or bad.
We each love in our own way.
It akin to two people stubbing their toes. Person A may cry because it hurts, but person B while feeling pain, doesn't show it...it's not fair to say who's toe hurt worse.
It's peanut butter jelly time!
I say Susan's, because Roland always had other pressing concerns, and was distracted by them his whole life.
I'm also of the opinion that susan loved roland more. She put herself in a lot of danger for him-such as meeting him in secret and helping him, cuthbert and alain on various occasions, and she also died head held high for him. Her last words were Roland I love thee, she had no last regrets of anything that happened between them. Roland, however, did kind of leave her while he went off to the canyon and hoped she would be ok-i dont know, i just get the feeling he would have chosen the tower over her.
'He bowed low, right down to the ground, in front of the man sitting there motionless, whose smile reminded him of everything that he had ever loved in his life, of everything that had ever been of value and holy in his life.' Herman Hesse
i voted for a deep faithful love. but then i read some of the posts and now i'm not so sure...
'He bowed low, right down to the ground, in front of the man sitting there motionless, whose smile reminded him of everything that he had ever loved in his life, of everything that had ever been of value and holy in his life.' Herman Hesse
Matt, that may be my favorite dark tower junkie quote ever!
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:: evil ::
::suave::
::whispers::
just say a word and I will edit your vote...
Ask not what bears can do for you, but what you can do for bears. (razz)
When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)
bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The kindness of close friends is like a warm blanket
:: evil ::
::suave::
::whispers::
just say a word and I will edit your vote...
I am with you, girl. Gogogo.
Roland would have understood.
Anyway for me it's a bit hard to write about love because we have more words for it in Hungarian... what about in Russian? I am interested in it a lot.
For example I know that in French there are even more than in Hungarian.
So.. it's natural if our thoughts are different if we have other more or less words for them in your mind.
Roland would have understood.
Hmmm... they are very different so it's hard to say that they are equal. Yes... of course they are but it's like saying oxygen and water are equal. They both are inredibly important for lie but they are way too different to say that oh yes they are equal....and all of them equal love. Am I right?
However yes, they are.
Roland would have understood.
So...they are not...but they are?Hmmm... they are very different so it's hard to say that they are equal. Yes... of course they are but it's like saying oxygen and water are equal. They both are inredibly important for lie but they are way too different to say that oh yes they are equal....and all of them equal love. Am I right?
However yes, they are.
*love love love
love is ALL you need*
Exactly. *nods widely*So...they are not...but they are?Hmmm... they are very different so it's hard to say that they are equal. Yes... of course they are but it's like saying oxygen and water are equal. They both are inredibly important for lie but they are way too different to say that oh yes they are equal....and all of them equal love. Am I right?
However yes, they are.
Roland would have understood.
Actually, it is very wise indeed.Exactly. *nods widely*So...they are not...but they are?Hmmm... they are very different so it's hard to say that they are equal. Yes... of course they are but it's like saying oxygen and water are equal. They both are inredibly important for lie but they are way too different to say that oh yes they are equal....and all of them equal love. Am I right?
However yes, they are.
Love is just love? Now THAT is silly.
As the ever-so-wise Beatles said:
"All you need is love.. /
Love is all you need."
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im thinking that roland and susan did not have a deep and faithful love, i think they had the basis for what would have been but they did not have the time to make it that way because death parted them. It was youthful passion but there was love there because of what susan and roland did for each other. susan went to the stake for him and roland put everything in danger by being with her. However i do not think now, after reading other peoples posts, that it could have been deep and faithful because they were not given the time to truly show this. I say it would have been a adeep and faithful love if they had been able to stay together longer.
'He bowed low, right down to the ground, in front of the man sitting there motionless, whose smile reminded him of everything that he had ever loved in his life, of everything that had ever been of value and holy in his life.' Herman Hesse
In Irish, there's only really the one word - grá - but then we're a reticent bunch here anyway!
every other 'love' reference in the language is kind of... crafted.. from other words.
eg. from the dictionary:- 'to make love' = luí le chéile - which literally means "to lie together" etc...etc...
Anyway - my vote = Yes, it was a real & deep & faithful love.
I totally agree--sometimes things just are.
This is one of them imo
The kindness of close friends is like a warm blanket
I think Roland just feels guilty for not taking Susan with him when he should have. That act alone makes me feel that Susan loved Roland truly, and maybe Roland, confused by being forced to mature much sooner than he should have, only THOUGHT he loved her. I mean, that's just the way I look at it.
Btw, I happen to be of the belief that there is no such thing as "the one", and that you can love the next person in your llife just as much as the last, so if that is true, then Roland did indeed love Susan, but how long would he have continued to love her had he taken her with him to start with?
To add to that, I also think that Sai King most likely feels the same way about it, because . . .
Spoiler:
I may just be reading it wrong, though.
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ka is ka. i guess
Look Dave, I can see you're really upset about this. I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill, and think things over.
Even though my original vote went to the light and hot love, I have changed my opinion that it was a deep and faithful relationship, which I was sadden by its end.
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