Gary Oldman confirmed at Comic-con that the next Batman will be filmed in 2010.
Woot!
Gary Oldman confirmed at Comic-con that the next Batman will be filmed in 2010.
Woot!
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I'd wait for an official statement from either a WB exec or Nolan himself. Oldman also 'confirmed' that there would be a Dark Knight - based video game for the PS3 and Xbox360 , and uh ...
Darn that Oldman!
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do they know who's directing the next one yet?
"So many vows. They make you swear and swear. Defend the King, obey the King, obey your father, protect the innocent, defend the weak. But what if your father despises the King? What if the King massacres the innocent? It's too much. No matter what you do, you're forsaking one vow or another."
Not yet, Nolan's still not sure if he wants to do the third one.
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i hope he does, I'd hate someone to fuck up all his hard work.
"So many vows. They make you swear and swear. Defend the King, obey the King, obey your father, protect the innocent, defend the weak. But what if your father despises the King? What if the King massacres the innocent? It's too much. No matter what you do, you're forsaking one vow or another."
I read an interview where Chris's brother , Johnathan said that he's pretty sure that Chris still wants to do a 3rd film, but that he needs time to collect himself ... Ledger's death had a very deep impact on him.
Next Batman Movie to be Fully Shot in IMAX?
Source: Ain't It Cool News
August 25, 2009
"Ain't It Cool News has posted an interesting rumor saying that Christopher Nolan and Warner Bros. Pictures could be planning to shoot the follow-up to The Dark Knight completely in IMAX format:
The THIRD chapter of Christopher Nolan's Caped Crusader's saga could very well be FULLY shot in IMAX, not IMAX Digital - but the beautiful, stunning IMAX that we saw pieces of THE DARK KNIGHT in.
Now this is something that I'm sure a lot of you will feel is a no-brainer. Nolan blew us away with the IMAX sequences in that film - but it was a very tough process to work in. Mainly due to the limitations of how many available real IMAX rigs there are. Not only that, but lenses had to be created, adapted and god forbid one broke down. Part of the reason that Nolan went forward with INCEPTION first - besides taking a creative break from the cape and cowl adventures... was possibly to create a few new IMAX cameras made to his specs. Once again - the cost of shooting an entire feature film on IMAX... the stock, the time it takes to reset, to load, to move the cameras... Well... it is daunting, but as Nolan proved with DARK KNIGHT - the difference is stunning.
We'll have to wait and see if this does indeed happen."
This will be interesting to see how it develops in the future.
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Has Nolan himself confirmed that he will be back to direct Batman 3?
Can you provide us with the direct link, Ricky?
Sure thing Feev:
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=58373
At this point, I'm thinking that the IMAX situation and Nolan directing is purely speculative. However, it's still interesting to theorize about nonetheless.
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Batman 3 Decision Due in January?
Nolan and co rumoured to give offical update on sequel.
by Orlando Parfitt, IGN UK
UK, November 17, 2009 - Some news that we missed last week about a little-known comic-book movie franchise called Batman.
Batman On Film reports that director Christopher Nolan and studio Warner Bros. will officially announce their plans for Batman 3 in January.
Their scooper told the site: "The longer we don't hear a Nolan/B3 announcement in 2010, the less likely it is that the director will return."
We've heard so many rumours and counter-rumours about Batman 3 over the past year, so here's hoping BOF's source is true, and that 2010 brings some kind of official news about the project.
I wonder if Nolan not coming back has anything to do with the general feeling that it's going to be near impossible to top TDK ?!?
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i hope not, because it IS gonna be nearly impossible to top TDK, but that doesn't mean it would be a bad movie. I love the direction Nolan has taken the franchise in, and I want him to hang around.
"So many vows. They make you swear and swear. Defend the King, obey the King, obey your father, protect the innocent, defend the weak. But what if your father despises the King? What if the King massacres the innocent? It's too much. No matter what you do, you're forsaking one vow or another."
I just got through watching Dark Knight again and it got me thinking about the future of this particular iteration of Batman. Here's my fear...
Nolan, since he didn't kill off the Joker in Dark Knight, might have planned to use him again...possibly even in the next movie. My fear with this is that because the actor who played him died and Nolan and/or the powers that be is afraid of the backlash of using another actor, is going with a different story all together. This might throw off the whole rhythm. If this is the case I think they really need to go ahead and get someone else to play that part. Someone on here way back said that they didn't think that anyone else should play the Joker ever. This seems silly to me. It's worse than that. It's wrong.
Ok...so Ledger did a great job with the character...then died. If you're building a house and your contractor dies you don't change the floor plan. You replace the contractor. There are other actors that could play this part. Johnnie Depp, for example, could play this part and do it well. (I'm sure there are others but he strikes me as the best candidate and probably the only person that could pull it off) I don't think it would be disrespectful or wrong in any way if the original plan was to bring back the Joker.
Another issue I'm thinking about here is that, to me, the Joker is an integral part of Batman. And when I say Batman I mean his character and his world. To ignore that because of a misguided sense of respect for the dead makes Ledger's death even more tragic to me because it cheats Nolan's iteration of Batman...the best iteration thus far, out of the villain that, I think, is a big part of defining Batman. The Joker truly is the the yin to Batman's yang.
I'm sure there are those that would disagree with the idea that someone else should play the Joker but think about why. Ask yourself why it is you really think that Nolan should shelf this character.
This might get me flamed, not sure, but IMO - there's no way in the world anyone could top Ledger's Joker. Ever. And, I think, it would be career suicide to try. At least any time soon, while the performance is still so fresh in everyone's memory. It was a defining moment, for both Ledger and the Batman franchise.
I've never been so high on Nolan, and wouldn't hate to see the series move onto a new director. A fresh perspective might be a good thing. There's no announcement yet that he'll be back for the next chapter.
( don't get me started on Bales, his Batman whisper still drives me to the brink of tossing the television out the window )
Batman has tons of evil villians and bad-guys. Pick another one and go with it - let them be truly evil ( which is why the Joker works so well ) and let the Bat deal with that, along with his angst.
The Man In Black Fled Across The Desert...
...And The Gunslinger Followed.
“I’m always on the Batman rule, sir.” - Kate Kane / Detective Comics 857
"It is the story, not he who tells it." Except to us collectors who have to put limits somewhere. - jhanic
oh pam, contraversial!!!
well, i won't start on the bale thing again, as we have had that discussion beforeSpoiler:
Pam i agree with you in regards to the joker, its too soon. Coz, honey, i can see exactly what you are saying in regards to not getting rid of the joker character, and i don't see why they would have too. BUT...... there is also a whole slew of bad asses that batman fought against and if you bring the joker back for the next film then not only will you get comparisons through out the whole of the film - which would take away from anything that the film did. but you are also in danger of the franchise becoming the batman and joker franchise.
personally, i love Bale as batman and i am far more interested in seeing how he would react with other villians, and how the character would continue to be shaped. but thats just my 2p worth
by all means if the franchise lasts long enough, bring the joker back at a later stage. but for now there are other nemisis (s?) for him to fight
Noooooo!Originally Posted by Cozener
Its not about topping it.
We wouldn't be talking about this if Ledger hadn't of died. In fact, if Ledger had lived and demanded too much money to reprise the role or just refused to do it we'd be debating who the best person would be to fill in. We wouldn't even be considering the idea that no one should play the role again. But no, the guy died. So now there's this false sense of elevation for him and the role of the Joker...that its something golden and pristine that should never be sullied by the hands of someone else. I strongly disagree. Before this movie came out and his death Ledger was considered a good actor...but not a great one. Also, I believe that Ledger's dying had at least a little to do with him winning the Oscar. Not saying he didn't deserve it. He did. But every nominee deserved it. If he hadn't of died we'd be on here bitching about the fact that he didn't win instead of pondering why he did.
On the other hand, you could be right for the most part...most actors couldn't pull it off without doing at least some damage to their careers. This was one of the reasons I suggested who I suggested.
Noooooo!C'mon...the guy's a great actor. Its not like it would be Jack Sparrow in a purple suit. But if not Depp...who would you suggest? Or are you in the NOBODY EVER camp...
Ok now this is probably the best argument not to do it. I didn't think about that. But I do think it could be overcome...especially by the folks that are really into Batman.
I'm ok with that simply because I don't see that many more movies being made in this particular line of films.
Yeah...he does have other villains but like I said, my fear is that Nolan had not planned to use any of them...that he had every intention of bringing back the Joker and the fact that he can't might throw off the whole story arc he had lined up and screw up the next movie. I don't know that thats the case but I don't think he was planning on using other Batman villains. Bringing back Two Face is an option though. It isn't explicitly said that he died at the end of Dark Knight.
Sure there are but not all of them will translate into Nolan's world as well. I'd hate to see Penguin here. I don't think Catwoman would do well either. But there are some lesser known villains that might do well...Deadshot comes to mind. Mr. Zsasz, Hugo Strange, Black Mask...perhaps a combination of villains (or an amalgam) Maybe bring back Ra's al Ghul. (the dude never dies)
Whatever they do...for the love of god...DO NOT put Robin in this world.
oh lord, just imagineno, better idea is not too
How could it not be? I don't think anyone could even come close.Its not about topping it.
Hmmm. I'm totally going to disagree with this.We wouldn't be talking about this if Ledger hadn't of died. In fact, if Ledger had lived and demanded too much money to reprise the role or just refused to do it we'd be debating who the best person would be to fill in. We wouldn't even be considering the idea that no one should play the role again. But no, the guy died. So now there's this false sense of elevation for him and the role of the Joker...that its something golden and pristine that should never be sullied by the hands of someone else. I strongly disagree. Before this movie came out and his death Ledger was considered a good actor...but not a great one. Also, I believe that Ledger's dying had at least a little to do with him winning the Oscar. Not saying he didn't deserve it. He did. But every nominee deserved it. If he hadn't of died we'd be on here bitching about the fact that he didn't win instead of pondering why he did.
On the other hand, you could be right for the most part...most actors couldn't pull it off without doing at least some damage to their careers. This was one of the reasons I suggested who I suggested.
Sincerely, there's no "false sense" of anything where this performance is concerned. He nailed it. He became the Joker. No one else can touch it. Word was leaking from the set long before Heath passed that this was a huge performance and would bring accolades. Then we lost Heath. The part speaks for itself, regardless of his death, not because of it.
Actors don't have to be Great in order to be great or perfect in a roll. It just so happened, Heath is great as the Joker. Is he a great actor, in general - probably not. He made some real dogs. He also turned in an amazing performance in Brokeback Mountain ( like the film or not, the desparation he conveyed was palpable ).
I disagree about the Oscar thing... only because, again, there was a lot of buzz long before Heath passed. And not all noms deserved it - frankly, I thought RDJr being nominated for Tropic Thunder was a joke. And not a good one.
I'm gonna duck a bit here again, because I happen to think that Johnny Depp is one of the most over-rated actors of our generation. He has made some good movies, but he's made just as many ( if not more ) really bad ones. My opinion, for sure - I know some folks think he's great ( probably for the same reasons I think he's horrible - I give you...any of those Pirate movies! ).
The Man In Black Fled Across The Desert...
...And The Gunslinger Followed.
“I’m always on the Batman rule, sir.” - Kate Kane / Detective Comics 857
"It is the story, not he who tells it." Except to us collectors who have to put limits somewhere. - jhanic
I sidagree with what ya said about deppHow could it not be? I don't think anyone could even come close.Its not about topping it.
Hmmm. I'm totally going to disagree with this.We wouldn't be talking about this if Ledger hadn't of died. In fact, if Ledger had lived and demanded too much money to reprise the role or just refused to do it we'd be debating who the best person would be to fill in. We wouldn't even be considering the idea that no one should play the role again. But no, the guy died. So now there's this false sense of elevation for him and the role of the Joker...that its something golden and pristine that should never be sullied by the hands of someone else. I strongly disagree. Before this movie came out and his death Ledger was considered a good actor...but not a great one. Also, I believe that Ledger's dying had at least a little to do with him winning the Oscar. Not saying he didn't deserve it. He did. But every nominee deserved it. If he hadn't of died we'd be on here bitching about the fact that he didn't win instead of pondering why he did.
On the other hand, you could be right for the most part...most actors couldn't pull it off without doing at least some damage to their careers. This was one of the reasons I suggested who I suggested.
Sincerely, there's no "false sense" of anything where this performance is concerned. He nailed it. He became the Joker. No one else can touch it. Word was leaking from the set long before Heath passed that this was a huge performance and would bring accolades. Then we lost Heath. The part speaks for itself, regardless of his death, not because of it.
Actors don't have to be Great in order to be great or perfect in a roll. It just so happened, Heath is great as the Joker. Is he a great actor, in general - probably not. He made some real dogs. He also turned in an amazing performance in Brokeback Mountain ( like the film or not, the desparation he conveyed was palpable ).
I disagree about the Oscar thing... only because, again, there was a lot of buzz long before Heath passed. And not all noms deserved it - frankly, I thought RDJr being nominated for Tropic Thunder was a joke. And not a good one.
I'm gonna duck a bit here again, because I happen to think that Johnny Depp is one of the most over-rated actors of our generation. He has made some good movies, but he's made just as many ( if not more ) really bad ones. My opinion, for sure - I know some folks think he's great ( probably for the same reasons I think he's horrible - I give you...any of those Pirate movies! ).
yeah the pirates movies are stupid but they don aspire to be anything except light entertainment and depp was great in em
I think he's one of the best actors maybe ever, one of the few cultual icons who has films the everyone can like, that rare popular artist/actor that remains awesome despite mainstream success
i mean cmon
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so cool
if the worlds gonna end then let's get it over with, i got shit to do
We should flip threads if we're going to talk Johnny Depp...
... but for every Fear and Loathing, I can name a Secret Window. For every Ed Wood, a Don Juan DeMarco.
The Man In Black Fled Across The Desert...
...And The Gunslinger Followed.
“I’m always on the Batman rule, sir.” - Kate Kane / Detective Comics 857
"It is the story, not he who tells it." Except to us collectors who have to put limits somewhere. - jhanic
That statement, to me, is absolutely ridiculous.How could it not be? I don't think anyone could even come close.Its not about topping it.
We wouldn't be talking about this if Ledger hadn't of died. In fact, if Ledger had lived and demanded too much money to reprise the role or just refused to do it we'd be debating who the best person would be to fill in. We wouldn't even be considering the idea that no one should play the role again. But no, the guy died. So now there's this false sense of elevation for him and the role of the Joker...that its something golden and pristine that should never be sullied by the hands of someone else. I strongly disagree. Before this movie came out and his death Ledger was considered a good actor...but not a great one. Also, I believe that Ledger's dying had at least a little to do with him winning the Oscar. Not saying he didn't deserve it. He did. But every nominee deserved it. If he hadn't of died we'd be on here bitching about the fact that he didn't win instead of pondering why he did.
On the other hand, you could be right for the most part...most actors couldn't pull it off without doing at least some damage to their careers. This was one of the reasons I suggested who I suggested.Again...its not about how he nailed it or didn't or if someone else could do it as well. My point is that just because someone played a role well does not mean that no one else can play that role well. In fact, someone else might just be able to do it just as well even if it isn't the same.Hmmm. I'm totally going to disagree with this.
Sincerely, there's no "false sense" of anything where this performance is concerned. He nailed it. He became the Joker. No one else can touch it. Word was leaking from the set long before Heath passed that this was a huge performance and would bring accolades. Then we lost Heath. The part speaks for itself, regardless of his death, not because of it.
Who says they do?Actors don't have to be Great in order to be great or perfect in a roll.
I forgot about Tropic Thunder...I disagree about the Oscar thing... only because, again, there was a lot of buzz long before Heath passed. And not all noms deserved it - frankly, I thought RDJr being nominated for Tropic Thunder was a joke. And not a good one.
I don't think we can know for sure how much of a role Ledger dying played in him getting that Oscar...this is just my theory. I think it did. I think there's a lot of hype surrounding it because he died. And I think that because he died people are overprotective of this particular role.
And to turn what you said above around...just because an actor puts out some bad performances doesn't mean he's a bad actor. But if we're talking opinions here (and thats all we're working with after all) great or not...I still think if anyone can pull off playing the Joker in a way similar to Ledger it would be him. I think he could structure the performance in such a way as to act it very much the way Ledger did. The only foreseeable issue there is that his ego might not allow him to mimic another actor's performance.I'm gonna duck a bit here again, because I happen to think that Johnny Depp is one of the most over-rated actors of our generation. He has made some good movies, but he's made just as many ( if not more ) really bad ones. My opinion, for sure - I know some folks think he's great ( probably for the same reasons I think he's horrible - I give you...any of those Pirate movies! ).
EDIT: Oh I missed this post...
It that's true than I'm doubly keen on them finding another actor to play Joker and IN the next movie. They should stick with the original plan.
anyway EVERYBODY knows that Jack Nicholson was the best joker
right?
if the worlds gonna end then let's get it over with, i got shit to do
I know you're just joking but he really would have been great if he hadn't have been fat and old. As it was Michael Keaton could have made a better Joker. I don't mean that as a slam to Jack. I really think Keaton could have been a good Joker considering his age, condition, and his comedic history. (and he's still my favorite Batman) But Jack was past his prime. The Joker is far too athletic of a role for an overweight man in his 50s. He was good. Nicholson is always good even if he is pretty much always playing himself. But that performance was no where near the level of greatness that Ledger's performance was.
Of course, we're talking about two very different approaches to Batman here...Burton's comic book style to Nolan's gritty, real world perspective.
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