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    Default Song of Susannah Q&A *spoilers

    The first time I read Song of Susannah I just had my second baby. I was living in this small apartment and giddy with anticipation. I would nurse and read nurse and read at at the end of it all I cried and cried. I remember my hubby had taken my older child to the park for a bit so I could finish up and when it was over I was crying. I loved it. That was the first read. The second time I read Song of Susannah was about five minutes after I read it the first time. I had a different perspective. I liked it but didn't love it. I tell you what that fight scene at the gas station just about made my day!


    What was your favorite moment of this book?


    What bugged you about this book?


    What would you change about Song of Susannah?

    If you voted for the gas station, what stood out the most for you?


    Did you embrace the turtle skolpadda?

    The first time you read Song of Susannah, what was your first thought?

    This isn't the most favorite book of the series...Where does it place for you and why?



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    What was your favorite moment of this book?

    lots! but if I have to name just one, it's Jake, Oy and Callahan in New York, getting that key and then the ball from the hotel room. (yes, and their first moment in New York, too, and rev.Harrigan, and Gas Station, and SK himself, I absolutely love all of that, but the one I mentioned is my personal favorite)

    What bugged you about this book?

    Pages From a Writer's Journal. It was as lackluster and tendentious as everything Mr.King writes outside fiction (which, of course, makes it a great literary achievement - he perfectly imitated his own non-fiction style there)

    What would you change about Song of Susannah?

    I would exclude Pages From a Writer's Journal altogether, leaving only a few necessary hints, but omitting direct quotes.

    If you voted for the gas station, what stood out the most for you?

    how John Cullum appeared and acted, and everything about him

    What was an eye opening moment for you?

    excuse me? I didn't quite get what you mean

    Did you embrace the turtle skolpadda?

    no, not quite, although I loved the scene with "second assistant to the Swedish Ambassador"

    The first time you read Song of Susannah, what was your first thought?

    It's already the second question I don't quite understand.

    This isn't the most favorite book of the series...Where does it place for you and why?

    Immediately after The Wolves, on the same level as The Drawing and The Waste Lands; then comes the last volume, and then, after a Big Gap, volumes 1 and 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean View Post

    What was an eye opening moment for you?

    excuse me? I didn't quite get what you mean

    Hmmm, I'll edit out that question, Jean. I just meant an "ah Ha!" moment where the some of the mysteries of the Tower were unveiled and was it a surprise or had you already figured it out.



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    What was your favorite moment of this book?

    When it finally ended.



    What bugged you about this book?

    Stephen King's presence, Susannah, and why the fuck there's a song with lame rhyming.


    What would you change about Song of Susannah?

    Hmmm... Not a thing.

    If you voted for the gas station, what stood out the most for you?
    Eddie was true, even when he was barely conscious.

    Did you embrace the turtle skolpadda?

    Seemed like yet another unnecessary "god machine" for me.

    The first time you read Song of Susannah, what was your first thought?
    This is the worst artwork I've ever seen.

    This isn't the most favorite book of the series...Where does it place for you and why?


    At the very, very end. If I was on a deserted island and could have either Song of Susannah, or any of the other books written in mandarin chinese, I'd choose the latter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by obscurejude View Post
    At the very, very end. If I was on a deserted island and could have either Song of Susannah, or any of the other books written in mandarin chinese, I'd choose the latter.

    Just please PLEASE tell me you'd choose it rather than ANY Jane Austen book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by obscurejude View Post
    The first time you read Song of Susannah, what was your first thought?
    This is the worst artwork I've ever seen.
    Well that answers that one for me as well. I even preferred the ultra-abstract artwork from W&G with the giant-headed Susan to the art in S.o.S.

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    As for the rest of the questions...

    What was your favorite moment of this book?
    Jake pulling the gun on the cab driver.

    What bugged you about this book?
    Again, I agree with Ryan. The commala-verse song annoyed the crap out of me.


    What would you change about Song of Susannah?

    I'd lose the above-mentioned "rhyme"

    If you voted for the gas station, what stood out the most for you?

    I didn't vote for the gas station, but can I still answer? I liked how quickly Cullum got with the program and helped them out.

    Did you embrace the turtle skolpadda?

    It was a bit heavy-handed of King, but I liked it's effect on the Swede and the Hotel Desk Clerk.

    This isn't the most favorite book of the series...Where does it place for you and why?

    Last, but I don't hate it or anything. I just like the others better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brice View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by obscurejude View Post
    At the very, very end. If I was on a deserted island and could have either Song of Susannah, or any of the other books written in mandarin chinese, I'd choose the latter.

    Just please PLEASE tell me you'd choose it rather than ANY Jane Austen book.
    I've never really read Jane Austen, nor will I ever, because you've convinced me she's the worst writer in history.

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    What was your favorite moment of this book?
    The fight scene was awesome but two things that stand out in my mind the strongest are Jake going into a rage at the cabbie, demanding an apology and Pere giving Jake his last rights before going into the Dixie Pig.

    What bugged you about this book?
    I wasn't fond of the Writer's Journal but I think what bugged me most was that so much of the novel was about Susannah and Mia. I know, I know...it's called Song of Susannah so naturally her part of the story would be foremost but so much of it seemed to drag on. And I just really didn't like Mia.

    What would you change about Song of Susannah?
    Nothing too major, I guess. Wasn't fond of the art in it, either.

    If you voted for the gas station, what stood out the most for you?
    I didn't vote for it the second time around but it was John Collum keeping his cool. I liked Roland's address to Andolini, too.

    Did you embrace the turtle skolpadda?
    I suppose I did. I remember feeling a bit sad when it was lost later in the story.

    The first time you read Song of Susannah, what was your first thought?
    "I love Detta in this book!"

    This isn't the most favorite book of the series...Where does it place for you and why?
    I don't hate it but like I've already said, I don't care much for Mia and while reading the chunks with her and Susannah I kept thinking, "Get on with it already." Like R_of_G, I just like the other better.
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    I quite liked the artwork, some of it anyway. As for that freaky picture of Susannah, it gave me a chill but I liked it. Beautiful and hideous all at once, a good illustration of her fractured nature. The art was good in my opinion although I can understand why many wouldn't like it. It was certainly disturbing.

    What was your favorite moment of this book?

    I find this difficult as there is a lot I like, but I think the scenes with Susannah and Mia, particularly the scenes when they palaver on the castle wall. This was the first time we learn some of the underlying mythology of the book, The Tower, the prim, and the greater Discordia, as well as answering certain questions concerning Susannah/Mia's pregnancy.

    If I can choose a second (but not necessarily lesser) moment it would be the scenes involving Callahan and Jake. Not so much Jake's actions with the taxi driver but the Black 13 stuff and the lead in to the Dixie Pig was great.

    What bugged you about this book?

    Not a lot, but I'd have liked to have had more explanation as to the connection between Toren and Deschain families.
    Spoiler:
    We never got much explanation except that Calvin Tower was a kind of guardian of the rose.


    What would you change about Song of Susannah?

    What I described in the 'bugged' section above.

    If you voted for the gas station, what stood out the most for you?

    I didn't vote for this, but I agree it was a great scene. Just the whole action was interesting and the new character and his reaction was great.

    Did you embrace the turtle skolpadda?

    Yes. I accept it, since it originated in the bowling ball bag found near the rose. It makes sense to me that something with a will and intelligence like the Tower or Beam could produce tools to aid our ka-tet in their journey. If it had just turned up like the letter in Calvin's safe or the key and note in the envelope King sent Jake, (I'm not a fan of the Writer acting directlly in that way, albeit I accept his presence in this tale) I'd be less sure.

    Oh, and the scene in the park was amusing. And the receptionist and her gift of prophesy gave me goosebumps.

    The first time you read Song of Susannah, what was your first thought?

    I can't remember, as it was a while ago. Probably that I couldn't wait for the next book to resolve the cliff-hanger. Not that I think leaving it on a cliff-hanger was a bad thing as some people seem to. It wasn't like we had to wait long for DT 7.

    Apart from that I remember thinking how it was such a different change of pace to the previous book, quite a ride.

    This isn't the most favorite book of the series...Where does it place for you and why?
    Quite high up for me, although I'm not sure exactly where in relation to the other books.

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    What was your favorite moment of this book?
    Let's see. Jake, oy and Callahan in New York, getting the key, the ball. I also liked the scenes of Mia and Susannah talking to each other at the castle



    What bugged you about this book?
    The writers journal and the commala song. Don't really know why


    What would you change about Song of Susannah?
    I would not change anything about the book

    If you voted for the gas station, what stood out the most for you?
    The way Eddie fought even though he was half conscious and that John Collum stood up with Roland and Eddie during the fight



    Did you embrace the turtle skolpadda?
    yes, for the most part


    The first time you read Song of Susannah, what was your first thought?
    I could not wait for the next book. I love Song of Susannah

    This isn't the most favorite book of the series...Where does it place for you and why? I cannot say that I have a favorite book in the series. I love them all. I love mia and susannah and detta for that matter. I love the whole concept of the series

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    What was your favorite moment of this book?
    jake, oy, and the pere fighting in the dixie pig; jake going off on the cabbie

    What bugged you about this book?
    hmmmm. probably the journal at the end of it. it felt very contrived to me.

    What would you change about Song of Susannah?
    i'd remove the journal.

    If you voted for the gas station, what stood out the most for you?
    i didn't vote for the gas station (please don't throw things at me) but what stood out for me was john cullum being so cool through it all. he seemed to me the quintessential mainer - just taking it all in stride you know?

    Did you embrace the turtle skolpadda?
    i loved the skoldpadda. just loved him. he represented all that was good and proper in the world. i was in the hospital when i was reading this and my husband brought me a stuffed turtle to keep me company and i named him the skoldpadda. i think the idea of a talismanic object that can make people happy this way is wonderful. one that has power, that can be used for good, that can make people feel happy by it's mere presence. aaaaah.

    The first time you read Song of Susannah, what was your first thought?
    i hated this book the first time i read it. i slogged through it thinking "i just have to get through this so that when the next one comes out i can read it". same each reread. until this time, now it's moved up to third from the bottom.

    This isn't the most favorite book of the series...Where does it place for you and why?
    the dark tower; the waste land; the drawing of the three; wolves of the calla; song of susannah; the gunslinger; wizard and glass


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    oh and back away from greta shaw you greta haters!

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    I don't hate Greta. That's too light of a word. I loathe that bitch.

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    really? hmmmm. and here i thought she was your favorite character in all of the books combined. really ryan. you ought to learn to make your positions a little clearer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turtlesong View Post
    really? hmmmm. and here i thought she was your favorite character in all of the books combined. really ryan. you ought to learn to make your positions a little clearer.
    I'll try turtlesong. I'm not known for my oratory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by obscurejude View Post
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    really? hmmmm. and here i thought she was your favorite character in all of the books combined. really ryan. you ought to learn to make your positions a little clearer.
    I'll try turtlesong. I'm not known for my oratory.

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    What was your favorite moment of this book?

    Gas Station hands down.

    What bugged you about this book?

    3 things: 1) baby storyline (babies aren't my bag, baby); 2) commala come pop, please make the rhyming stop; and 3) Pages From a Writer's Journal.

    What would you change about Song of Susannah?

    Well obviously taking the baby storyline out is not an option, so I would drop the song and, as Jean suggested, change the Writer's Journal portion to a summary.

    If you voted for the gas station, what stood out the most for you?

    "The truck slid by with a majestic lack of speed." Man, everything about that scene was beautiful and reminded me why I fell in love with King's writing in the first place. Also, it's where we meet the awesome John Cullum.

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    Did you embrace the turtle skolpadda?

    no, not quite, although I loved the scene with "second assistant to the Swedish Ambassador"
    I agree wholeheartedly. The second assitant was a great miniscule part.

    The first time you read Song of Susannah, what was your first thought?

    Where's book 7? Seriously. When King announced the last three were definitely being released, I was ecstatic. However, I waited until they were all out before I bought one because I knew I would go crazy otherwise.

    This isn't the most favorite book of the series...Where does it place for you and why?

    Well, it's hard for me to rank them as they move around favorite-wise depending on my mood. The only thing that is a constant is that W&G is always last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woofer View Post
    <snip>
    2) commala come pop, please make the rhyming stop
    <snip>





    and congrats on 500 posts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woofer View Post
    <...> commala come pop, please make the rhyming stop
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    "The truck slid by with a majestic lack of speed."

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    What was your favorite moment of this book?

    Jake and the cabbie & the gunfight at the gas station

    What bugged you about this book?

    The rhyming and the whole stanza thing. It was a bit jarring since the other 6 books were pretty much constructed the same way.

    What would you change about Song of Susannah?

    First the rhyming, then I'd try to see if I could re-structure the stanzas into parts and chapters, but then again, I'm not a writer.

    If you voted for the gas station, what stood out the most for you?

    The sense of deja-vu with seeing Andolini again, and John Cullum's role. He sure had a lot of Red Sox memorabilia.

    Did you embrace the turtle skolpadda?

    I didn't mind it so much.

    The first time you read Song of Susannah, what was your first thought?

    I was struck how King really didn't like Roland all that much.

    This isn't the most favorite book of the series...Where does it place for you and why?

    I don't like these questions. I like the entire series. Sure, one book HAS to be the "worst" of the bunch. That's like asking me who is my least favorite Oriole in the Hall of Fame? If I had to answer that one, I'd probably go with Jim Palmer just because of his enormous ego.

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    Quote Originally Posted by obscurejude View Post
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    At the very, very end. If I was on a deserted island and could have either Song of Susannah, or any of the other books written in mandarin chinese, I'd choose the latter.

    Just please PLEASE tell me you'd choose it rather than ANY Jane Austen book.
    I've never really read Jane Austen, nor will I ever, because you've convinced me she's the worst writer in history.
    Jane Austen, I think, is the reason the YA genre exists.

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    What was your favorite moment of this book?
    Hard to pick just one. Mia and Susannah on the allure, both times, was good because Mia spoke about the Beams. Explained a bit about the mythology of the seven books.


    What bugged you about this book?
    Not much until I read some of the questions here (in the Baronies/SOS) and my brain has since become boggled. Maybe that bit about "Henry was in the Nam" cause it doesn't seem to jive with their ages and what they were doing in 1977, when Henry is confused about who is president, Carter, I think the story said.


    What would you change about Song of Susannah?
    Perhaps I'd try to explain better how Balazar knew where to be, when to be.

    If you voted for the gas station, what stood out the most for you?
    I guess I kinda voted for the gas station, or did I? The truck as a Lost Beast of the Eld...interesting image...John Cullum.


    Did you embrace the turtle skolpadda?
    First time or two through, yeah, works for me. Still does, I guess.

    The first time you read Song of Susannah, what was your first thought?
    What happens next!

    This isn't the most favorite book of the series...Where does it place for you and why?
    I admire anyone who can string words together and tell a tale. Every book in the series has been a joy to read, and read again. I've had a range of emotions throughout each read and though I've numbered "anger" and "disappointment" among them, it's hard to pick a favorite or a least favorite. There's some parts that are incredible, fascinating, pure joy to read. The disappointments are minor and I don't think any of them were visible on the first pass.

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    What was your favorite moment of this book?
    The ambush part

    What bugged you about this book?
    Stephen King as character.

    What would you change about Song of Susannah?
    Hmmm i can't say that i'd just take out the King's role there because it would change everything (perhaps for the better). So i'd change nothing


    Did you embrace the turtle skolpadda?
    I didn't mind it at all. It was there but i didn't see anything in it

    The first time you read Song of Susannah, what was your first thought?
    1) Why did King write about himself
    2) I want the next book

    This isn't the most favorite book of the series...Where does it place for you and why?
    Last.
    Can't even be compared with other DT books.

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    What was your favorite moment of this book?

    Roland and Eddie in Maine.

    What bugged you about this book?

    I was afraid how he'll handle his own appearance in it, but he pulled it off.

    What would you change about Song of Susannah?

    I'm not here to change anything.

    If you voted for the gas station, what stood out the most for you?

    John Cullum.

    Did you embrace the turtle skolpadda?

    Sure, yeah.

    The first time you read Song of Susannah, what was your first thought?

    Good thing I bought the last two books together.

    This isn't the most favorite book of the series...Where does it place for you and why?

    The lower portion of the scale.


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    What was your favorite moment of this book?
    Roland and Eddie meeting SK
    Susannah and Mia’s talks in Discordia and Fedic
    Scenes in Susannah’s Dogan and how she used visualization
    The use of skolpadda and the effect it had on people
    And am I the only one who quite liked all that short commala songs?

    What bugged you about this book?
    Well, I guess the fact that in general book was about nothing; there was almost no action at all. There was just Susannah and all other people leaving in her head.
    Also I didn’t like that it turned out that Roland is the father of Mordred. And the way Jake behaved towards the taxi driver. Oh, and how could Calvin Tower be so stubborn? That was a bit irritating...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anastasia View Post
    What bugged you about this book?
    Well, I guess the fact that in general book was about nothing; there was almost no action at all.
    That's precisely why bears love it so much.

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