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    Quote Originally Posted by Slash281 View Post
    Again, I never think of it from the film makers perspective. So I never gave much thought to the Bible references. I always thought it was because he needed to make it so that in between the prequels and Star Wars, Vader had to become a huge pussy. How do you do that? Well you make it so that living tissue controls the force, and since Vader is mostly a cyborg at this point he can barely use it.
    I'm very impressed by your logic, but I think you're pointing out an inconsistency and not a leitmotif.

    But well done Slash. You are a damn impressive 12 year old dude.

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    Maybe it's not an inconsistency, maybe it's all tied perfectly, and Midi-Chlorians were all part of Lucas's master plan. Or maybe not.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slash281 View Post
    Maybe it's not an inconsistency, maybe it's all tied perfectly, and Midi-Chlorians were all part of Lucas's master plan. Or maybe not.......
    We are old and cynical. You'll understand some day, but I'd love to hear the theories you come up with.

    If the force is biological, does that mean it could be manufactured?

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    Quote Originally Posted by obscurejude View Post

    We are old and cynical. You'll understand some day, but I'd love to hear the theories you come up with.

    If the force is biological, does that mean it could be manufactured?
    Well, the force isn't biological. What we, as living beings use to concentrate it is biological. And I can sort of get that.

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    i'm impressed by your ability to quote at this hour.

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    I find those statements contradictory to The Phantom Menace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarajean View Post
    i'm impressed by your ability to quote at this hour.
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    I find those statements contradictory to The Phantom Menace.
    I can't remember Qui-Gon dwelling on that for too long. What exactly did he say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slash281 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sarajean View Post
    i'm impressed by your ability to quote at this hour.
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    I find those statements contradictory to The Phantom Menace.
    I can't remember Qui-Gon dwelling on that for too long. What exactly did he say?
    I'm about to hop off homie and its late on the east coast. I'll get back to you.

    Its the scene where Qui Gon is speaking with Anakin after he takes a sample of his blood if you want to look it up.

    To be fair, the biological aspect is hinted at in the originals, "the force runs strong in my family" but still remains mysterious. We would have never anticipated that potential Jedi in the galaxy of the republic were genetically pre screened and taken from their families at infancy.

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    i think i'm too drunk to handle a genetics discussion. :'(

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarajean View Post
    i think i'm too drunk to handle a genetics discussion. :'(
    In the morning, after you drink coffee out of your massive mug, I expect genetic flow charts and a Star Wars themed double helix.

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    Okay, y'all won't catch me in the conversation here much as I'm not really a star wars fan. I liked the original movies okay, but the rest of them I have no desire to see. They are sitting on our shelves right now and I won't be watching them. Basically I just wanted to say that is one damn smart 12 year old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slash281 View Post
    Am I the only one who gets annoyed by the inconsistency in the Stormtroopers abilities throughout the series, especially the books and video games. Sometimes they're portrayed as elite killers and guards, and other times they just get butt fucked by the rebels. You would assume that since all the Stormtroopers had to be trained in the Imperial academy for several years they'd be able to shoot straight. Granted, most rebels went there too, but they dropped out. They couldn't have been as adept in battle as the Stormtroopers, especially since they had so little experience. I'm kind of just on a nerd rant, but is no one else bothered by this?
    I would be bothered except for the fact that if the Stormtroopers were always kickass shots Luke, Han, Ben, Chewy, and the droids would never have made it out of Mos Eisley...let alone off the Deathstar. Pretty much like any other movie with good guys and bad guys, the bad guys are almost always terrible shots. Notice how when the stormtroopers are fighting for the Republic this is when they're all badasses but as soon as they're done knocking off all the Jedi they forget how to shoot.

    Quote Originally Posted by sarajean View Post
    i'm just going to go ahead and say it:

    FUCK the prequels and the reissued original three. they have no place in my heart, none what-so-ever. i pretend they don't exist as they make me sad.
    Hey this is exactly how I feel about the Dune prequels...except that, unlike George Lucas, Frank Herbert has the excuse of being dead when they were written.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cozener View Post
    Notice how when the stormtroopers are fighting for the Republic this is when they're all badasses but as soon as they're done knocking off all the Jedi they forget how to shoot.
    I always hated that retcon that the 501 legion were actually all clone troopers. But you raise an even better point. If they were all Boba Fett shouldn't they be able to shoot a fly in the ass from 200 yards away?

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    Not Bobafett--clones. I believe they could have been taught different functions.

    He may be genetically athletic, and that helps. But they didn't get his brain.
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    and they weren't all personally raised by jango. that makes a huge difference.

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    If they were clone troopers, that would mean that they are Boba Fett. They're clones of Jango, Boba is also a clone of Jango. Meaning they're all the same guy. Boba is Jango, Jango is Boba. There is no difference.

    They were cloned from him specifically to be super soldiers, so you would assume some of his abilities went in there. Meaning the clones should be just about as powerful as Boba Fett.

    and they weren't all personally raised by jango. that makes a huge difference.
    He was only like eight when they killed his dad and made him live on the streets. Doesn't make that much of a difference. The clones themselves probably had more formal training.

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    genetically? yes.

    again, though...boba fett had the superior training.

    sometimes that's all it comes down to.

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    I totally understand what you mean. They are genetically Jango. But that doesn't mean they are him.

    Like sj just said, they weren't even raised by him. You could make a clone of me and it still wouldn't know how to say...set up this website. Unless you taught it to of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarajean View Post
    genetically? yes.

    again, though...boba fett had the superior training.

    sometimes that's all it comes down to.
    Well, he lived longer, so I'll give you that. He had more experience. But the clones were cloned from MANDALORE. That's all I'm getting at. Shouldn't they be bad ass too? (Clones being Stormtroopers in this situation).

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    They would have the potential for bad ass-ness, but they would still require training...

    ... if the Easter Bunny raised them, they'd be JangoBunny and not very skilled at fighting at all.

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    Great analogy Pam!
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    Quote Originally Posted by turtlex View Post
    ... if the Easter Bunny raised them, they'd be JangoBunny and not very skilled at fighting at all.
    That awesome.

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    /me s pam.

    you should post more instead of lurking, please.

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    Any time I see the possibility for JangoBunny intervention, I promise to post.
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