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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunchback Jack View Post
    His next one is due next year, after a few delays.
    What have you heard about his next one? I haven't gone digging around yet to see what I can find out.

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    He's posted about Omega Canyon sporadically on his forum. I think a fall while hiking and health issues have slowed him down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunchback Jack View Post
    I can only agree! I have yet to read The Fifth Heart, so I'm glad to hear you're liking it. His next one is due next year, after a few delays.

    (Drood is my personal favourite of his recent work. Also love The Terror, which most people seem to prefer, but Drood just seemed to click with me.)
    Just finished The Fifth Heart and loved it.

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    Well, this is... something. Was looking forward to finally getting The Terror, my first Dam Simmons book, when this happened:

    http://forum.dansimmons.com/ubbthrea...436#Post168436
    Dan S. comments:

    In the wee hours of Tuesday morning, Thursday's two testimonies and appearances before the Committee seem years and years away. How many more pathetic women, like Ford and Ms. Rodriguez, will come forward in the next two days with tales of sexual abuse that lack even the simplest corroborating evidence in service to the #Resistance, where ends always justify the means. Means such as perjury and intentionally smearing someone in the deliberate effort to destroy a man's life, profession and reputation through lies rather than allow another conservative justice to sit on the Supreme Court.

    Joe McCarthy and his fascist tribunal of the House Un-American Activities Committee in the early 1950's never descended as far into infamy as Dianne Feinstein and the other Democrats have in their desperate and profoundly immoral 11th-hour attempt to derail Judge Cavanaugh. This political party owes not only Cavanaugh but every American a groveling apology.

    Edited by Dan Simmons (Yesterday at 03:44 AM)

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    WELL - if your gonna write an alt right diatribe at least spell the asshole's name right - Kavanaugh.
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    You only have to read the novel Flashback (which i just finished) to know that Simmons has a very right-way political leaning.

    I don't agree with the man's politics, but I'm enjoying reading his books.

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    A long time ago, I made the decision to separate the art from the artist. If I didnít, I wouldnít be able to enjoy: Jimi Hendrix, The Rolling Stones, MotŲrhead, Roman Polanski, Woody Allen, Led Zeppelin, Cat Stevens, etc etc, so on and so forth..

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    For the most part, I agree with that. I can't ever watch another episode of The Cosby Show though. Also, I do think there is a line that is drawn sometimes. When an author or an artist crosses the line into being an actual political activist such as Orson Scott Card. He joined committees that actively tried to pass legislation that would hurt me and the people I love. He became a political activist and once that line is crossed, to me, that person's art is no longer for everyone. You are blatantly attacking and adversely affecting the lives of people that might have otherwise enjoyed your work.

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    The ACA cost my family our livelihood, health insurance, and has endangered our health. How should I feel about democrats and the POTUS in charge at that time?

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    For the most part, I agree with that. I can't ever watch another episode of The Cosby Show though. Also, I do think there is a line that is drawn sometimes. When an author or an artist crosses the line into being an actual political activist such as Orson Scott Card. He joined committees that actively tried to pass legislation that would hurt me and the people I love. He became a political activist and once that line is crossed, to me, that person's art is no longer for everyone. You are blatantly attacking and adversely affecting the lives of people that might have otherwise enjoyed your work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Staad View Post
    The ACA cost my family our livelihood, health insurance, and has endangered our health. How should I feel about democrats and the POTUS in charge at that time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy View Post
    For the most part, I agree with that. I can't ever watch another episode of The Cosby Show though. Also, I do think there is a line that is drawn sometimes. When an author or an artist crosses the line into being an actual political activist such as Orson Scott Card. He joined committees that actively tried to pass legislation that would hurt me and the people I love. He became a political activist and once that line is crossed, to me, that person's art is no longer for everyone. You are blatantly attacking and adversely affecting the lives of people that might have otherwise enjoyed your work.
    The Democrats and the POTUS are politicians. I believe we were talking about authors/artists ??

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    Assume I will talk about what I want. Mods can correct me.

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    The ACA cost my family our livelihood, health insurance, and has endangered our health. How should I feel about democrats and the POTUS in charge at that time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy View Post
    For the most part, I agree with that. I can't ever watch another episode of The Cosby Show though. Also, I do think there is a line that is drawn sometimes. When an author or an artist crosses the line into being an actual political activist such as Orson Scott Card. He joined committees that actively tried to pass legislation that would hurt me and the people I love. He became a political activist and once that line is crossed, to me, that person's art is no longer for everyone. You are blatantly attacking and adversely affecting the lives of people that might have otherwise enjoyed your work.
    The Democrats and the POTUS are politicians. I believe we were talking about authors/artists ??

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    I will support Simmons if he is against socialism. I think he may be.

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    I don't give a flying F about Simmons' political views. This is about Simmons normalizing rape by discounting the word of a possible rape survivor vs some man's word. That's a pretty shitty default go-to for old male Republicans: a man's word is of more value than a woman's. A single image cartoon from a newspaper illustrated this best: an older guy's reading his papers and says, "Boys will be boys." His daughter replies, "What if it was me."

    Simmons' response is precisely the reason more women don't come out. Shame on him because as an intelligent man that he is, he should know better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Staad View Post
    Assume I will talk about what I want. Mods can correct me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy View Post
    For the most part, I agree with that. I can't ever watch another episode of The Cosby Show though. Also, I do think there is a line that is drawn sometimes. When an author or an artist crosses the line into being an actual political activist such as Orson Scott Card. He joined committees that actively tried to pass legislation that would hurt me and the people I love. He became a political activist and once that line is crossed, to me, that person's art is no longer for everyone. You are blatantly attacking and adversely affecting the lives of people that might have otherwise enjoyed your work.
    The Democrats and the POTUS are politicians. I believe we were talking about authors/artists ??
    I don't believe I ever told you not to talk about anything. I was curious about how my reply to peripheral's post produced your reply. You've talked at great length about your displeasure with the ACA, it is quite well known at this point. I did not vote for Obama either time. Why ask me about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeDealInLead View Post
    I don't give a flying F about Simmons' political views. This is about Simmons normalizing rape by discounting the word of a possible rape survivor vs some man's word.
    Saying "pathetic women" tells you all you need to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Staad View Post
    I will support Simmons if he is against socialism. I think he may be.
    Yeah we wouldn't want anybody having health care, something to eat, a place to live, cloths on their backs.

    Fascists are cool though. Just as long as they don't feed hungry children.
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    I have a big problem with Simmons' views, and part of me is dismayed that an author whose work I love so much holds them.

    But so long as his books don't become manifestos for those views, and they continue to be books I enjoy reading, I'll continue to buy them. After I give my money to Simmons in exchange for the book he's provided, what he does with it is up to him.

    There's a limit to that though; if Simmons was personally guilty of something reprehensible, I'd have to reconsider my position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunchback Jack View Post
    I have a big problem with Simmons' views, and part of me is dismayed that an author whose work I love so much holds them.

    But so long as his books don't become manifestos for those views, and they continue to be books I enjoy reading, I'll continue to buy them. After I give my money to Simmons in exchange for the book he's provided, what he does with it is up to him.

    There's a limit to that though; if Simmons was personally guilty of something reprehensible, I'd have to reconsider my position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PennyUnwise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hunchback Jack View Post
    I have a big problem with Simmons' views, and part of me is dismayed that an author whose work I love so much holds them.

    But so long as his books don't become manifestos for those views, and they continue to be books I enjoy reading, I'll continue to buy them. After I give my money to Simmons in exchange for the book he's provided, what he does with it is up to him.

    There's a limit to that though; if Simmons was personally guilty of something reprehensible, I'd have to reconsider my position.

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    My suggestion is to buy (if you wish to put money in his pocket) and read/enjoy Simmon's books. His earliest works didn't get too deep in contemporary politics, but some of his latest works are right wing, xenophobic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunchback Jack View Post
    I have a big problem with Simmons' views, and part of me is dismayed that an author whose work I love so much holds them.

    But so long as his books don't become manifestos for those views, and they continue to be books I enjoy reading, I'll continue to buy them. After I give my money to Simmons in exchange for the book he's provided, what he does with it is up to him.

    There's a limit to that though; if Simmons was personally guilty of something reprehensible, I'd have to reconsider my position.

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    Itís easy. If you donít support the author on a personal level (i.e. donít want to put money in his/her pocket that will only further his/her personal causes), buy his/her books used. Or download them illegally.

    On another note, this is why discussing politics is never a good idea in settings that arenít dedicated to such discussions. Itís just too easy to interpret comments as being personal and too slippery a slope to getting nasty. Not saying anyone got personal or nasty here but we still lost a good member over this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Father Cody View Post
    Itís easy. If you donít support the author on a personal level (i.e. donít want to put money in his/her pocket that will only further his/her personal causes), buy his/her books used. Or download them illegally.

    On another note, this is why discussing politics is never a good idea in settings that arenít dedicated to such discussions. Itís just too easy to interpret comments as being personal and too slippery a slope to getting nasty. Not saying anyone got personal or nasty here but we still lost a good member over this.
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    I agree that politics is best discussed in the proper place. We do have a thread for that.

    However, we didn't lose him over this IMHO.

    I've had many discussions with Tim regarding politics in the appropriate thread. We always argue for a while and then agree that we mostly agree. He always leans more toward the individual and I always lean more toward the collective. I doubt that one discussion that became political would send him packing.

    I think he's dealing with multiple stressors. I hope he's able to deal with them and comes to a place of peace.
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